On 2/2/2012 2:35 AM, meekerdb wrote:
On 2/1/2012 11:03 PM, Stephen P. King wrote:
On 2/2/2012 1:46 AM, meekerdb wrote:
On 2/1/2012 9:46 PM, Stephen P. King wrote:
On 2/2/2012 12:32 AM, meekerdb wrote:
On 2/1/2012 8:34 PM, Stephen P. King wrote:
On 2/1/2012 8:08 PM, meekerdb wrote:
On 2/1/20
On 01 Feb 2012, at 21:48, Stephen P. King wrote:
On 2/1/2012 3:06 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
I don't get it.
Many people have discussed this idea that Existence, in-itself,
is primitive and neutral (has no properties or divisions). It is not
original with me. For example, Bertrand
On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 3:10 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
> Could you please give me an example of a physical property that is
> context dependent?
>
Off the top of my head, mass, velocity, duration and length.
John K Clark
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On 02.02.2012 19:12 John Clark said the following:
On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 3:10 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi
wrote:
Could you please give me an example of a physical property that is
context dependent?
Off the top of my head, mass, velocity, duration and length.
John K Clark
Could you please expand
On 01.02.2012 22:51 John Mikes said the following:
Evgenii, I am not sure if it is your text, or Russell's":
*"**In general, I do not understand what does it mean that
information at zero Kelvin is zero. Let us take a coin and cool it
down. Do you mean that the text on the coin will disappear? O
On 01.02.2012 21:51 Stephen P. King said the following:
On 2/1/2012 3:10 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
On 29.01.2012 22:49 Russell Standish said the following:
On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 04:23:12PM +0100, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
On 28.01.2012 23:26 meekerdb said the following:
On 1/27/2012 11:47 PM, E
On 2/2/2012 10:35 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
Yes, but when we speak about information carrier (book, a hard drive, DVD, flash memory)
it is exactly the same. And it has nothing to do with the total number of physical
states in the device, as this example with zero temperature nicely shows.
That
On 02.02.2012 20:00 meekerdb said the following:
On 2/2/2012 10:35 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
Yes, but when we speak about information carrier (book, a hard
drive, DVD, flash memory) it is exactly the same. And it has
nothing to do with the total number of physical states in the
device, as this e
On Jan 30, 6:54 pm, meekerdb wrote:
> On 1/30/2012 3:14 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
>
> > On Jan 30, 6:08 pm, meekerdb wrote:
> >> On 1/30/2012 2:52 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
> >> So kind of you to inform us of your unsupported opinion.
> > I was commenting on your unsupported opinion.
>
> Except t
On 2/2/2012 12:38 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Jan 30, 6:54 pm, meekerdb wrote:
On 1/30/2012 3:14 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Jan 30, 6:08 pm, meekerdbwrote:
On 1/30/2012 2:52 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
So kind of you to inform us of your unsupported opinion.
I was commenting on your un
On 2/2/2012 1:07 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 01 Feb 2012, at 21:48, Stephen P. King wrote:
On 2/1/2012 3:06 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
I don't get it.
Many people have discussed this idea that Existence, in-itself,
is primitive and neutral (has no properties or divisions). It is not
On Jan 31, 1:33 pm, John Clark wrote:
>
>
>
> > > The Limbic system predates the Neocortex evolutionarily.
>
> As I've said on this list many times.
>
> > > There is no reason to think that emotion emerged after intelligence.
>
> And as I've said emotion is about 500 million years old but Evolutio
On Jan 31, 3:25 pm, John Mikes wrote:
> Craig and Brent:
> would you kindly disclose an opinion that can be
> deemed "SUPPORTED"
>
> All our 'support' (evidence, verification whatever) comes from mostly
> uninformed information fragments we receive by observation(?
On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 Craig Weinberg wrote:
> My view is that the whole idea that there can be a 'functional equivalent
> of emotions' is completely unsupported. I give examples of puppets
A puppet needs a puppeteer, a computer does not.
> movies, trashcans that say THANK YOU, voicemail...all of
On Thu, Feb 02, 2012 at 07:45:53PM +0100, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
> On 01.02.2012 21:51 Stephen P. King said the following:
> >On 2/1/2012 3:10 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
> >>First the thermodynamic entropy is not context depended. This must
> >> mean that if it is the same as information, then the la
On Wed, Feb 01, 2012 at 09:17:41PM +0100, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
> On 29.01.2012 23:06 Russell Standish said the following:
> >
> >Absolutely! But at zero kelvin, the information storage capacity of
> >the device is precisely zero, so cooling only works to a certain
> >point.
> >
>
> I believe that
On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 Craig Weinberg wrote:
> Do you have any examples of an intelligent organism which evolved without
> emotion?
Intelligence is not possible without emotion, but emotion is possible
without intelligence. And I was surprised you asked me for a example of a
emotional organism wi
On Jan 31, 5:24 pm, Terren Suydam wrote:
> Craig - see below...
>
> On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 11:35 PM, Craig Weinberg
> wrote:
> > They are part of the same thing, although perpendicular (organization
> > is material forms across volumetric space, experience is entangled
> > perceptions through s
On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 3:04 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
> On 21.01.2012 22:03 Evgenii Rudnyi said the following:
>
> On 21.01.2012 21:01 meekerdb said the following:
>>
>>> On 1/21/2012 11:23 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
>>>
On 21.01.2012 20:00 meekerdb said the following:
> On 1/21/20
On Jan 31, 1:25 pm, Bruno Marchal wrote:
> On 30 Jan 2012, at 21:12, Craig Weinberg wrote:
>
> > On Jan 30, 5:09 am, Bruno Marchal wrote:
> >> On 29 Jan 2012, at 03:20, Craig Weinberg wrote:
>
> >>> How do you know that they 'occur' in the computations rather than in
> >>> the eye of the beholder
On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 5:25 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
> There is an important difference though. You are using the
> conventional notion of 'forces' like 'laws' which govern interaction
> rather than what I am talking about which is sense and motive. There
> are no forces floating around free, it'
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