Re: Universe as a simulated strange loop

"Self-reference" in programming - going back to Brian Smith's 3-Lisp http://www.tark.org/proceedings/tark_mar19_86/p19-smith.pdf - is a bit not-quite-real in the context of "The Self" of consciousness (self) realism (Galen Strawson).

Re: Universe as a simulated strange loop

Self-reference is a case where the computation is not complete or can't be quantified. We might then consider consciousness as a strange-loop where the process can't be quantified, or any attempt to do so will always exceed the capacity of the processor. LC On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 8:00 AM Telmo

Re: Universe as a simulated strange loop

Le lun. 4 mai 2020 à 14:15, Lawrence Crowell < goldenfieldquaterni...@gmail.com> a écrit : > On Sunday, May 3, 2020 at 10:14:10 PM UTC-5, smitra wrote: >> >> On 03-05-2020 23:09, Philip Thrift wrote: >> > The SSH >> > >> > https://www.mdpi.com/1099-4300/22/2/247 >> > >> > still lies in the

Re: The Wolfram Model

On Sunday, May 3, 2020 at 4:47:02 PM UTC-5, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > Have Goldstone bosons been *experimentally verified* to exist? > > @philipthrift > Indirectly they have been verified. The coupled Z and W particles with the Goldstone bosons have amplitudes corresponding to that, rather

Re: The Wolfram Model

> On 3 May 2020, at 23:20, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > I am a mathematician - not a physicist - but I don't understand why there is > this complaint against the Wolfram Model - Because it cannot work, nor does it agrees the fundamental question. > but not many complaints about > >

Re: Universe as a simulated strange loop

Am Mo, 4. Mai 2020, um 12:15, schrieb Lawrence Crowell: > On Sunday, May 3, 2020 at 10:14:10 PM UTC-5, smitra wrote: >> On 03-05-2020 23:09, Philip Thrift wrote: >> > The SSH >> > >> > https://www.mdpi.com/1099-4300/22/2/247 >> > >> > still lies in the "information turn" that plays in

Re: The Observer & The Existence of Reality

> On 2 May 2020, at 17:33, Philip Benjamin wrote: > > > everything-list@googlegroups.com > Saturday, May 2, 2020 8:26 AM Subject: Re: The Observer & The Existence of > Reality > [Bruno Marchal] > That [in red italics at the bottom] is a bit unclear

Re: The Wolfram Model

On Sunday, May 3, 2020 at 3:20:04 PM UTC-6, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > I am a mathematician - not a physicist - but I don't understand why there > is this complaint against the Wolfram Model - but not many complaints about > > Many Worlds theories - https://arxiv.org/abs/1801.08132 > Ghost

Re: Universe as a simulated strange loop

On Sunday, May 3, 2020 at 10:14:10 PM UTC-5, smitra wrote: > > On 03-05-2020 23:09, Philip Thrift wrote: > > The SSH > > > > https://www.mdpi.com/1099-4300/22/2/247 > > > > still lies in the "information turn" that plays in physics today.(IT > > FROM QUBIT, etc.) - a rejection pf

Re: Universe as a simulated strange loop

> On 4 May 2020, at 05:14, smitra wrote: > > On 03-05-2020 23:09, Philip Thrift wrote: >> The SSH >> https://www.mdpi.com/1099-4300/22/2/247 >> still lies in the "information turn" that plays in physics today.(IT >> FROM QUBIT, etc.) - a rejection pf materialism in favor of idealism. >>

Re: The Wolfram Model

On Monday, May 4, 2020 at 5:35:28 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 3 May 2020, at 23:20, Philip Thrift > > wrote: > > > > I am a mathematician - not a physicist - but I don't understand why there > is this complaint against the Wolfram Model - > > > Because it cannot work, nor does it

What does "physical" mean?

https://www.academia.edu/38245741/What_does_physical_mean_A_prolegomenon_to_panpsychism What does “physical” mean? A prolegomenon to panpsychism Galen Strawson 2021, forthcoming - Mind and Being [1] What does the word ‘physical’

Re: Universe as a simulated strange loop

> On 4 May 2020, at 06:05, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List > wrote: > > > > On 5/3/2020 8:14 PM, smitra wrote: >> On 03-05-2020 23:09, Philip Thrift wrote: >>> The SSH >>> >>> https://www.mdpi.com/1099-4300/22/2/247 >>> >>> still lies in the "information turn" that plays in

Re: The Wolfram Model

Ghost fields are scalar fields that have Fermi-Dirac statistics. Popov introduced these as a way of introducing constraints to counter certain degrees of freedom in gauge theories, These are then really a way of countering four degrees of freedom of a gauge field, when there are only 2

Re: Universe as a simulated strange loop

On 5/4/2020 3:17 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 4 May 2020, at 06:05, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List wrote: On 5/3/2020 8:14 PM, smitra wrote: On 03-05-2020 23:09, Philip Thrift wrote: The SSH https://www.mdpi.com/1099-4300/22/2/247 still lies in the "information turn" that

Re: Universe as a simulated strange loop

On 5/4/2020 6:27 AM, Quentin Anciaux wrote: Le lun. 4 mai 2020 à 14:15, Lawrence Crowell > a écrit : On Sunday, May 3, 2020 at 10:14:10 PM UTC-5, smitra wrote: On 03-05-2020 23:09, Philip Thrift wrote: > The SSH >

Re: The Wolfram Model

On 5/4/2020 3:35 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 3 May 2020, at 23:20, Philip Thrift > wrote: I am a mathematician - not a physicist - but I don't understand why there is this complaint against the Wolfram Model - Because it cannot work, nor does it agrees the

Re: The Wolfram Model

I do not understand the basic graph math. Maybe do as Sean Caroll says to do? Ronald On Wednesday, April 29, 2020 at 4:40:56 AM UTC-4, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > The "hypergraph" stuff from Stephen Wolfram in recent news on his "new > foundation" of physics has a name: > *The Wolfram

Re: What does "physical" mean?

Galen Strawson >*What does the word ‘physical’ mean in its most general theoretical > philosophical use? It’s used in many different ways, and it’s hard to > imagine that philosophers could reach agreement on a best use. * > Yes, and that's why unlike physicists and mathematicians philosophers

Re: The Observer & The Existence of Reality

On 5/4/2020 4:12 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: I might disagree. Especially if you keep in mind that theology ws born as a science, before becoming an institionised oppression system, when separated from science for that purpose. Yes, it was born as explanation for natural phenomena in terms

Re: Universe as a simulated strange loop

On Monday, May 4, 2020 at 1:47:41 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote: > > > > On 5/4/2020 6:27 AM, Quentin Anciaux wrote: > > > > Le lun. 4 mai 2020 à 14:15, Lawrence Crowell > a écrit : > >> On Sunday, May 3, 2020 at 10:14:10 PM UTC-5, smitra wrote: >>> >>> On 03-05-2020 23:09, Philip Thrift wrote: >>> >

Re: The Observer & The Existence of Reality

Theology has nothing to do with science. There are what might be called pre-scientific thinking as a branch of philosophy. Science though came about from the ideas of Roger Bacon and were applied and firmed up by Galileo. Theology predates that by centuries. I would say Christian theology came

EinsteinPy

Latest release: https://twitter.com/EinsteinPy/status/1257452756413165568 @philipthrift -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: EinsteinPy

Yes - Python is the duck's nuts right now. I want to switch TCL out for Python in my EcoLab platform, which I use for ALife research. It'll probably have a to wait a few years until I "retire", though, and I hope that the scientific community hasn't jumped on another bandwagon by that time :). On

Re: The Observer & The Existence of Reality

You're leaving out the pre-historic part.  Among primitive peoples, explanations are mixtures of supernatural agency, empirical knowledge, and magic. Magic and empiricism gave rise to alchemy and attempts to control supernatural agents thru spells and incantations; which led eventually to

Re: "Proof" of time-energy form of HUP -- anything awry here?

On Sunday, May 3, 2020 at 5:36:34 PM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Sunday, May 3, 2020 at 7:51:49 AM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: >> >> >>