, December 27, 2001 11:04 AM
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Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?
Symantec Corporate, 7.5. Waiting for 7.6 to arrive. We also will be
purchasing a Mcafee e500.
A good portion of or problems relate to a LAZY supervisor and several
departments that are in charge of their own
M...exercises in masochism
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From: Thomas Di Nardo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 11:15 AM
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Kumindra, I respectfully disagree.
Martin is correct on this one. The LAST thing
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From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 27 December 2001 21:11
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So it really isn't a matter of too much work
Chandimith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 5:05 AM
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I disagree with this, Specially y if you have a Development team.
We used to have a separate Development domain, (infact 2 or 3 of them)
We
may be setting up
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Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 10:15 AM
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Kumindra, I respectfully disagree.
Martin is correct on this one. The LAST thing you want is
people on the dev team moving boxes back and forth between a
dev network
I like blunts, too.
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From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 3:07 PM
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I use to think it was my lazy boss. And I was told it was
him, but when
crap hits
PC people have no time for blunts
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From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 8:40 AM
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I like blunts, too.
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From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL
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From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 3:25 PM
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Quote away!
You can also add in there that we were just subjected to a GOA (Gov. Office
of Accountability) audit of our
We are not PC
Mm blunts.
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From: Avi Smith-Rapaport [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 5:43 AM
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PC people have no time for blunts
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From: Erik Sojka
But can he pass a Boa???
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From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 6:19 AM
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WAY TO GO Jim!
Anytime you can pass a GOA inspection AND be used as the standard for
others
You'll have to catch and eat me, you wierdo...
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From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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But can he pass a Boa???
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: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:51 AM
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You'll have to catch and eat me, you wierdo...
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Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 7:29 AM
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It could be, depending on the company (someone has already hit on a number
of different elements). It would also depend on how much AV your company has
in place right now. If you're going
: Thursday, December 27, 2001 9:01 AM
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How big is your company?
Is 10,000 users enough for it to be a full time job? 100,000 users?
It varies from org to org.
-- Drew
Visit http://www.drewncapris.net! Go! Go
: Thursday, December 27, 2001 6:12 AM
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Any job where one is expected to be perfect is job is full time. If you
don't think so ask all the Security personal who were sacked after I Love
You went around.
Anti-Virus really should be included
That would depend on the size and complexity of your environment, what types
of attachments that you need to allow into your company and how sensitive
your company is to downtime due to a virus outbreak. Many of the anti virus
vendors now have Consoles that can manage your deployments across
m
someone dedicated
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From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:21 AM
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That would depend on the size and complexity of your environment, what types
Ya forgot to salute!! And stand on attention when ya speak to us...:-)
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From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 3:27 PM
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Motivated, Dedicated and True to the Anti-Virus
Dear Eric,
Anti Virus is important, but not a full time job.
The Anti Virus software that your company selects should be
automatic in certain respects, so that it takes care of itself (updates,
scans, etc.).
Rob Garrish
Exchange Administrator
Wawa Inc.
610-558-8371
[EMAIL
Check the shoulder boards. That bird on my shoulder doesn't mean I'm a
pirate.
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From: Schwartz, Jim
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:27 AM
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Motivated, Dedicated and True to the Anti-Virus Role
I think it depends on the size of your organization, among other things. AV
does tend to be something that, once set up, requires only Harry
PotterCONSTANT VIGILANCE!/Harry Potter and not a ton of maintenance.
-- Drew
Visit http://www.drewncapris.net! Go! Go
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Check the shoulder boards. That bird on my shoulder doesn't mean I'm a
pirate.
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, american writer and humorist,
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Schwartz, Jim
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:12 AM
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Check the shoulder boards. That bird on my shoulder
It could be, depending on the company (someone has already hit on a number
of different elements). It would also depend on how much AV your company has
in place right now. If you're going from ZERO AV protection, yes, it should
be a full time project until you have the layers of protection in
of such**
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From: Garrish, Robert B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:09 AM
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Dear Eric,
Anti Virus is important, but not a full time job.
The Anti Virus software that your
, 2001 9:32 AM
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I disagree. Personally I think if you are a large organization you
should have at least 2 people solely dedicated to keeping up with AV.
It's a tough job to always be on top, and would require constant
attention. Someone
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From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:31 AM
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Anything to get out of Kansas, right?
John Matteson; Exchange Manager
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I disagree. Personally I think if you are a large organization you
should have at least 2 people solely dedicated to keeping up with AV.
It's a tough job to always be on top, and would require constant
attention. Someone should be in place
: Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:45 AM
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Dear Bob,
Eric mentioned that he had 1300 users.
I am wondering, How many NT Servers, or Total Servers?. How
many
Laptops and PCs?
Wawa has one NT Server and one NT Workstation
I don't think this is a full time job. If you have a full time
position just for A/V, you'd have to have a backup person since viruses
do not take any vacation. Instead of having full time position, pay
A/V vendor to notify you ( other support staffs) when there's new virus
via pager, cell
and
brutality in the destroyers. --Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brian Ko
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 10:57 AM
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I don't think this is a full time job
extensions are blocked, etc.
It doesn't need to be full time, just part time, done right.
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From: Brian Ko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:57 AM
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I don't think this is a full time
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At 1300 machines given the problems we appear to be having,
the guy that does our AV wants a FTE created for it because
he feels it would be appropriate.
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From: Drewski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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that we didn't know
about. All without any AV and 2 were nimda monsters.
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From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 9:03 AM
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What are you using for your AV solution
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From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 11:04 AM
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Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?
Symantec Corporate, 7.5. Waiting for 7.6 to arrive. We also
will be purchasing a Mcafee e500.
A good portion of or problems relate
a year for an AV guy, they would let you have your way
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From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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Symantec Corporate, 7.5. Waiting for 7.6 to arrive. We also
To: Exchange Discussions
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So it really isn't a matter of too much work, but rather a matter of poor
management.
In any company, but in particular one your size, allowing departments to
manage computers is a recipe for disaster. It probably seemed like a good
idea
Subject: RE: AV! a full time job?
I agree. The idea that you could have 15 computers on your network (in your
domain?) without knowing about it is a clear indication that management
ISN'T
doing its job...
-- Drew
Visit http://www.drewncapris.net! Go! Go
:18 PM
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At this point its sad to say the LAZY super is here to stay and so are the
independent departments. So he is looking at the best way to deal with
the
workload.
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From: Drewski [mailto:[EMAIL
in times
like these.
-cm
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From: Garrish, Robert B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:09 AM
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Dear Eric,
Anti Virus is important, but not a full time job
How are they joining machines w/o your knowledge? Time to change some
passwords.
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/ Infrastructure Group
Bechtel Hanford, Inc.
509-372-9188
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From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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Symantec Corporate, 7.5. Waiting for 7.6 to arrive. We also
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Other departments who have the rights to do it. We have argued this to the
Nth degree, trust me its beyond all hope. If we change passwords we get
chewed out and told to change them back.
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From: Anderson, Scott [mailto:[EMAIL
Network / Infrastructure Group
Bechtel Hanford, Inc.
509-372-9188
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From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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Symantec Corporate, 7.5. Waiting for 7.6 to arrive. We
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Eric,
We are using the same AV you are and we are approximately the same size you
are. We got the Symantec Corporate 7.6 upgrade about a week ago. Side
Note: With XP/NAV 7.6 installed on a workstation, you will have to turn off
your AV software before trying to burn
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No I don't think it needs to be a full time job, but it is defiantly one
that somebody has to take full responsibility for and be the one that
answers to problems. I personally take that role myself.
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You're the best!!
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From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 2:30 PM
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You take on every role yourself...
YOU ROCK!! :o)
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