What kind of errors are you getting in the Event Log?
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From: Karon Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 7:34 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Backing up Exchange 5.5
We're trying to backup one in particular Exchange 5.5 server and
Brick-level backups are not protection against a store failure, just a
convenience if you need to recover a mailbox or some content. Follow
FAQ Appendix B and you don't need brick-level backups. What you didn't
say was whether you back up the Information Store, not the store files.
If you back
Seems to me you asked these Q's long ago...but here's what I might do.
1.) The Open File agent - Will NOT work its not meant to for this
2.) You must have the exchange agent (which if your attempting BLB's you
must have)
3.) Turn off the BLB
4.) Do a normal Backup in BE8.6 without BLB but all
When you install Exchange on a server, it automatically installs an
exchange aware version of NTBackup (I'm guessing you're running on
NT).
Online defrags should be running automatically, look in the event logs
for events that relate to that kind of operation. 1227 (I think) is one
of them.
If the only errors you are getting are related to Veritas BLBs reporting
corrupt messages in Top of Information Store And not -1018 or other
Exchange related database corruption reporting errors then I believe you
should be looking at fixing the technical administration problems you are
No from Veritas it's their enterprise product.
Cheers
Paul
Standards are like toothbrushes,
everyone wants one but not yours
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From: Fioon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 05 October 2002 02:08
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backing up Exchange 5.5
Are u
Brightwhore?
Same crap. New name.
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Fioon
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 9:03 PM
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Subject: RE: Backing up Exchange 5.5
I've download the BE trial copy , but it can't run
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Subject: RE: Backing up Exchange 5.5
Brightwhore?
Same crap. New name.
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Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 9:03 PM
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Sent: 04 October 2002 05:03
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backing up Exchange 5.5
I've download the BE trial copy , but it can't run. Funny,
hang on Self Extract. Download again, same thing happened again.
Any opinion on new ArcServe2000 BrightStore for the Disaster
Recovery
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From: Fioon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 04 October 2002 09:07
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backing up Exchange 5.5
It's BrightStor , same under CA ..
Is ArcServe 2000 really that bad ?
No. It's worse.
I've just tried, and it
turned
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Subject: RE: Backing up Exchange 5.5
I've download the BE trial copy , but it can't run. Funny,
hang on Self Extract. Download again, same thing happened again.
Any opinion on new ArcServe2000 BrightStore
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Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 11:37 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backing up Exchange 5.5
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From: Fioon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 04 October 2002 09:07
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backing up Exchange 5.5
there next year when our new budget period starts, and
other than ditch arcserve, we have a fairly open mind about what to
use instead.
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From: Fioon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 04 October 2002 09:32
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backing up Exchange 5.5
: Backing up Exchange 5.5
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From: Fioon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 04 October 2002 09:07
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backing up Exchange 5.5
It's BrightStor , same under CA ..
Is ArcServe 2000 really that bad ?
No. It's worse.
I've just
Do you still remember the difficulty that you made on ArcServe ?
Wondering ..
Thanks
Fiooon
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From: Robert Moir [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 4:49 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backing up Exchange 5.5
Would you believe
up Exchange 5.5
Do you still remember the difficulty that you made on ArcServe ?
Wondering ..
Thanks
Fiooon
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From: Robert Moir [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 4:49 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backing up
that please let me know...
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From: Fioon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 12:01 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backing up Exchange 5.5
Do you still remember the difficulty that you made on ArcServe ?
Wondering ..
Thanks
Fiooon
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Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 1:07 AM
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Subject: RE: Backing up Exchange 5.5
It's BrightStor , same under CA ..
Is ArcServe 2000 really that bad ? I've just tried, and it turned out
not
too bad. On the middle of discussing
Subject: RE: Backing up Exchange 5.5
Importance: High
First to address Karons Issue of only backing up the mailboxes incase of
a server crash.. you will notbe able to recover the priv and pub
databases... so it is wise to backup atleast once the databases... so that
in case there is a server crash
question later.
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From: Fioon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 12:30 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backing up Exchange 5.5
Hi Muqeem,
1. What do u mean by network machines ? I did a DRecovery, once rebooted, it
did come back to my
I think your keyboard isn't working.
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From: Muqeem Syed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 04 October 2002 10:18
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backing up Exchange 5.5
Importance: High
First to address Karons Issue of only backing up the mailboxes incase
: RE: Backing up Exchange 5.5
I think your keyboard isn't working.
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From: Muqeem Syed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 04 October 2002 10:18
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backing up Exchange 5.5
Importance: High
First to address Karons Issue of only backing up
Ever wonder why CA keeps changing the names of their products?
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From: Fioon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 12:03 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backing up Exchange 5.5
I've download the BE trial copy , but it can't run. Funny
I think we know why...
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From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 7:30 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backing up Exchange 5.5
Ever wonder why CA keeps changing the names of their products?
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From
Try HP OmniBack II. Don't know the price but works just great.
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From: Fioon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 9:07
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backing up Exchange 5.5
It's BrightStor , same under CA ..
Is ArcServe 2000 really
Names have been changed to protect the innocent.
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy David
Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 07:30
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Subject: RE: Backing up Exchange 5.5
Ever wonder why CA keeps changing the names
up Exchange 5.5
Names have been changed to protect the innocent.
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy David
Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 07:30
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backing up Exchange 5.5
Ever wonder why CA keeps
Exchange 5.5
Try HP OmniBack II. Don't know the price but works just great.
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From: Fioon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 9:07
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backing up Exchange 5.5
It's BrightStor , same under CA ..
Is ArcServe 2000 really
Try Netbackup works on Unix or NT.
Cheers
Paul
Standards are like toothbrushes,
everyone wants one but not yours
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From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 05 October 2002 03:33
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Backing up Exchange 5.5
I was exposed
Are u saying Netbackup from CA ?
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From: Hurst, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 10:59 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backing up Exchange 5.5
Try Netbackup works on Unix or NT.
Cheers
Paul
Standards are like toothbrushes
Yes, probably Veritas Backup Exec v8.6
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From: Fioon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Posted At: Thursday, October 03, 2002 3:09 AM
Posted To: SWYNK - Exchange
Conversation: Backing up Exchange 5.5
Subject: RE: Backing up Exchange 5.5
Hi,
May i know which third party
Yes, as a google search would have shown.
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From: Fioon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 1:09 AM
Subject: RE: Backing up Exchange 5.5
Hi,
May i know which third party are you guys talking about
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Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 11:53 PM
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Yes, as a google search would have shown.
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Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 1
Hi,
May i know which third party are you guys talking about on this Backup
Exec ?
It's Veritas ??
Thanks
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From: Karon Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 2:20 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Backing up Exchange 5.5
I know this has
Discussions
Subject: RE: Backing up Exchange 5.5
So, maybe BE is skipping the pub.edb and priv.edb because we're backing
doing the BLB backups? Maybe you can't do the BLB and entire IS at the
same time.
Yes that is getting the full IS store... Not doing BLB but the full
Monty.
Bryce Weathersby
PM
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Subject: RE: Backing up Exchange 5.5
Hi All,
I'm new to this list and to Exchange. That means don't attack me when I
ask this question. :)
I understand about circular logging, but I'm wondering why everyone is
saying not to do BLBs. My backups are fine and I'm
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Subject: RE: Backing up Exchange 5.5
I realize it works for some people. It's not for me. Here's why:
1) They take a lng time. At my last position, the priv.edb
: Friday, August 09, 2002 4:14 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backing up Exchange 5.5
I realize it works for some people. It's not for me. Here's why:
1) They take a lng time. At my last position, the priv.edb on
several Exchange servers was huge with several mailboxes exceeding 2GB
lawyers run the IT dept.
I shall start lawyering.
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Elias, Delores
Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 6:09 AM
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Subject: RE: Backing up Exchange 5.5
Thanks, William. You've cleared
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Sent: 08 August 2002 20:49
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Subject: RE: Backing up Exchange 5.5
So, maybe BE is skipping the pub.edb and priv.edb because we're backing
doing the BLB backups? Maybe you can't do the BLB and entire IS at the
same time.
Yes that is getting
in the background,
you would see how many times we say NO BLBs with that hamburger.
Geoff...
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From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 4:24 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backing up Exchange 5.5
I'm not trying
09, 2002 10:25 AM
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Subject: RE: Backing up Exchange 5.5
You guys are brutal on here to newcomers. I've been in this business for 11
years and only been doing Exchange for 1 year. Cut me some slack please.
And I am right behind you Erik on Don't do BLBs and do a little
Years of experience has nothing to do with knowing what RTFM means.
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From: Karon Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 12:25 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backing up Exchange 5.5
You guys are brutal on here to newcomers. I've
: Karon Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]=20
Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 12:25 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backing up Exchange 5.5
You guys are brutal on here to newcomers. I've been in this business
for
11 years and only been doing Exchange for 1 year. Cut me some slack
: RE: Backing up Exchange 5.5
You guys are brutal on here to newcomers. I've been in this
business for
11 years and only been doing Exchange for 1 year. Cut me some slack
please.
And I am right behind you Erik on Don't do BLBs and do a
little reading.
Jeesh. If you have been
Backups!
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Karon Miller
Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 10:44 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backing up Exchange 5.5
I've Read The F.n Manual but it doesn't go into the detail that I
can get
Did you read the whitepapers? The minute amount of information Tristan gave
you isn't enough knowledge.
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From: Karon Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 1:21 PM
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Thank
Yo.
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From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 1:30 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backing up Exchange 5.5
It can be pretty brutal here. But you wont learn more
anywhere. A number of
folk here are the cream
: RE: Backing up Exchange 5.5
We are using BE ver 8.5 getting ready to upgrade to 8.6 and we're using the
Exchange Agent but not the Open File Agent. We cannot backup the pub.edb
and priv.edb without using the Open File Agent. You have to stop the
services in order to back up those files. Somone
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Bryce
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 12:36 PM
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The Exchange Agent will back up the entire file, the Exchange
Information Store. Instead of doing the BLB just the backup of the IS is
done. Much
:32 PM
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Subject: RE: Backing up Exchange 5.5
We are using BE ver 8.5 getting ready to upgrade to 8.6 and we're using the
Exchange Agent but not the Open File Agent. We cannot backup the pub.edb
and priv.edb without using the Open File Agent. You have to stop
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What does it look like in the Job Log.All I see is the exchange
mailboxes, and the IS being backuped. Though for the Backup Type on the IS
it's says Full - Database Logs (flush
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Conversation: Backing up Exchange 5.5
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What it's doing is skipping the pub.edb, and priv.edb and
showing their in use. We're not using the OFO anymore with
this either. Is backup Exec supposed to be running a script
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From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 2:39 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backing up Exchange 5.5
What does
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From: Karon Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 2:49 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backing up Exchange 5.5
So, maybe BE is skipping the pub.edb and priv.edb because we're
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From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 3:46 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backing up Exchange 5.5
It's not supposed to skip it because it's in use. It's supposed to skip
it because you MANUALLY EXCLUDED it from your backup
Subject: RE: Backing up Exchange 5.5
I know what circular logging is and that's why we have it
turned on.
My plan is to just stop the services and backup the pub.edb
and priv.edb
until we can get the OF Agent working. As far as BLB's, the
FIRM has to
do those I've tried to get them
to sleep tonight until you have read them. All will be explained
in those whitepapers.
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From: Karon Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 2:39 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backing up Exchange 5.5
I know what
.
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From: Karon Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 4:09 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backing up Exchange 5.5
I don't get it. What gives you the impression I don't know
what Circular
Logging is? Just because I have it turned
Discussions
Subject: RE: Backing up Exchange 5.5
I don't get it. What gives you the impression I don't know what Circular
Logging is? Just because I have it turned on. I would turn it off if we
could figure out how to back up the edb files and could flush the log
files.
It sounds like you don't
.
Do not go to sleep tonight until you have read them. All will be
explained in those whitepapers.
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From: Karon Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 2:39 PM
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Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 4:24 PM
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Subject: RE: Backing up Exchange 5.5
I'm not trying to be an @$$hole here, but I stand behind my statement.
As others have said:
- Don't do BLBs
- Don't use any vendor's OF agent on your Exchange server.
- Perform a proper
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Subject: RE: Backing up Exchange 5.5
If you have the Exchange agent installed in BE, and go into the Backup
Selections tab, you should see the Directory and Information stores listed
separately under your Exchange server, along with any disk drives and the
selection
Discussions
Subject: RE: Backing up Exchange 5.5
I don't get it. What gives you the impression I don't know what Circular
Logging is? Just because I have it turned on. I would turn it off if we
could figure out how to back up the edb files and could flush the log files.
It sounds like you
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To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backing up Exchange 5.5
What does it look like in the Job Log.All I see is the exchange
mailboxes, and the IS being backuped. Though for the Backup Type on the
IS it's says Full - Database Logs (flush
Subject: RE: Backing up Exchange 5.5
Assuming that you actually DO have the Exchange agent installed, on the
Backup Selections tab in BackupExec, expand the entry for your mail
server and you should see (among other things):
Add-ins
Address
C$
connect$
D$
Microsoft Exchange Directory
Microsoft
: Thursday, August 08, 2002 3:48 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backing up Exchange 5.5
I don't see the Microsoft Exchange Directory listed on my BE list. What's
it do? I do see the mailboxes and the IS entries.
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In my BE Log I have an entry for \\Server\Microsoft Exchange Directory
and another entry group for \\Server\Microsoft Exchange Information
Store.
The description for each is obvious. Directory is the Exchange
Directory, where all of that information
It's because there is no separate Exchange directory in E2K like there is in 5.5.
-Peter
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From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 14:12
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backing up Exchange 5.5
Ok so any idea on why
D'OH!
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From: Durkee, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 5:17 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backing up Exchange 5.5
It's because there is no separate Exchange directory in E2K
like there is in 5.5.
-Peter
Ah thanksI was starting to think something was wrong
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Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 2:17 PM
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It's because
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Hummert
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Ok so any idea on why the Exchange Directory wouldn't be showing up on
mine. Could it be cause I'm using the SBS edition of E2K?
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Hi All,
I'm new to this list and to Exchange. That means don't attack me when I ask
this question. :)
I understand about circular logging, but I'm wondering why everyone is
saying not to do BLBs. My backups are fine and I'm not having any trouble.
I'm backing up the Exchange Directory and
PSTs and Bricked Backups!
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Elias, Delores
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 1:56 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backing up Exchange 5.5
Hi All,
I'm new to this list and to Exchange. That means
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