RE: Suggestions would help thanks
Heard before: How you would solve a proxy failure problem by trying to search for help on the online Technet edition? Martin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Chris Scharff Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 6:50 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Suggestions would help thanks No, my searches are quite speedy. Are there actually companies which buy Microsoft software and don't get TechNet subscriptions? The mind boggles at the lost cost savings. Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 3:52 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Suggestions would help thanks seriously I have noticed that microsoft.com and TechNet is pretty slow. I guess they have too much traffic on their servers. It is kind of weird has anyone else noticed this? -Original Message- From: Stephen Mynhier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 1:41 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Suggestions would help thanks And posting here and waiting on a response is much faster than MS's search? Hm Let me ponder that for a moment... -Original Message- From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 10:32 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Suggestions would help thanks I am the LMHOST KING bow down to me !! o yeah microsoft.com have been slow latly when doing searchs -Original Message- From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 11:36 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Suggestions would help thanks Here's an even better site. www.google.com This provides a much better hit ratio then Microsoft's website. I have about a 50% success rate with their knowledge base returning the appropriate information. Good luck. -Original Message- From: Tom.Gray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 10:21 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Suggestions would help thanks hey, here's a secret site : www.microsoft.com they have a thing called a knowledge base If you search for LMHOSTS you get a peek into over 100 articles with information about LMHOSTS files. Don't tell anybody else about this site, just give them the answers after you have researched it yourself and you look like a genius! Looks like #5 and #7 would be a great place to start. Search Results Your search for lmhosts found 104 matches. 1 through 10 are listed below. 1 Name Resolution Using Lmhosts May Generate System Error 1214 (Q219381) 2 Performance Monitor Logs Lose Data Across Subnets (Q237579) 3 Win95/98/NT Dialup, Authentication, Browsing Using TCPIP, IPX/SPX, or NetBEUI (Q232511) 4 Bringing Up a Windows NT Advanced Server in a TCP/IP WAN (Q102044) 5 The Lmhosts File for TCP/IP in Windows (Q101927) 6 How to Troubleshoot TCP/IP Connectivity with Windows (Q102908) 7 LMHOSTS File Information and Predefined Keywords (Q102725) 8 REG: TCP/IP Transport Entries, Part 2 (Q102974) 9 Embedding Non-printable Characters in LMHOSTS Computer Names (Q104576) 10 Windows NT NBTSTAT -R vs. LAN Manager ADDNAME (Q107060) Tom Gray, Network Engineer All Kinds of Minds The Center for Development and Learning University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ATT Net: (919)960- -Original Message- From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 10:30 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Suggestions would help thanks Bob, I use the lmhost file for my clients and it works like a charm. I would like to know if you know where I could find more info about lmhost files. Right now I have the lmhost file set only for 1 server which is the exchange server. Do you know the parameters to enter in the lmhost file to give more access to the entire network. Thanks Rich -Original Message- From: Bob Sadler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 9:48 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Suggestions would help thanks Richard: This is possible without making any changes, except to the W98 clients themselves. Merely add the Microsoft for Networking Client on each machine, give each an IP Address, tell the the router IP address for Gateway. Then in their Outlook clients, be sure to add a new server, which points to the exchange server in NY. If they have trouble finding the server, drop a LMHOST file on each W98 machine showing the address of the Exchange Server. We were doing this exact same setup (and still are with some remotes) and it works just fine. Bob -Original Message- From: Tener,
RE: IMS questions
SMTP transaction logs can be found in the exchsrvr\imcdata\log directory. also check exchsrvr\imcdata\in and exchsrvr\imcdata\out. Regards Mr Louis Joyce Computer Support Analyst Network Administrator BT Ignite eSolutions -Original Message- From: Lloyd, D (Dave) (IT Systems) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 16 November 2001 05:06 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: IMS questions Hi all, I need a bit of help! We've recently added an IMS connector to one of our servers and configured it for Incoming only. An SMTP relay server then pokes mail through port 25 to pass to exchange mail boxes. This all works ok and was created soley to receive mail from a new e-banking network. The problem is that outgoing SMTP addressed mail should NOT go to the IMS, since it should use our x400 backbone. This is because there is no Internet connection available for the connector yet. Over the last week or so, users have started complaining that Internet mail is not getting out. Tracking specific messages show that the mail appears to hit the IMS. Since it has no Internet connection it cannot go anywhere. However, other messages successfully hit the X400 and get out to the Internet as planned. My questions are thus: I have enabled logging on the IMS, but where do they get stored? Event logs have nothing. Can the tracking.logs be interpreted by an application to make them easier to understand? Why would any mail hit the IMs at all if it is configured for Inbound only? Under the Address Space Tab, we set the cost to 100 and the scope to Location. I just read about troubleshooting outgoing mail, and it mentioned that if Address is too restrictive it will play a part. It suggests setting t to *. * is the default and is what ours was. Thinking this might be a key, I have set it to a fictitious domain of .nowhereatall. My thinking is that any mail NOT destined for .nowhereatall will automatically be routed via x400 and not IMS. Does this sound correct? What do the Delivery Restrictions do/apply to? I could accept mail from no-one, but would this affect the incoming from e-banking? If anyone has any ideas, please advise. We're running Exchange 5.5 (Enterprise) SP3 on NT4 SP5 cheers Dave == De informatie opgenomen in dit bericht kan vertrouwelijk zijn en is uitsluitend bestemd voor de geadresseerde. Indien u dit bericht onterecht ontvangt wordt u verzocht de inhoud niet te gebruiken en de afzender direct te informeren door het bericht te retourneren. == The information contained in this message may be confidential and is intended to be exclusively for the addressee. Should you receive this message unintentionally, please do not use the contents herein and notify the sender immediately by return e-mail. == _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Log in to user's mailboxes
Hi! I've been asked one thing that some of you may have already been asked to do before: access a user's mailbox and get a backup of everything in there. I'll not discuss the legal/ethical questions about this. I *really* need to get that information to my boss. I've searched Microsoft KB and found two articles: Q147354 XADM: Service Account Can Log In to any Mailbox and Q147362 XADM: Event ID: 1016 Logged Incorrectly in Application Event Log So, I've logged in to a machine using the account that is used to start all Exchange services, then I created a profile with the user's mailbox, but it didn't work. It complained about a lack of permissions. I then tried to create the profile with the services account and in the open additional mailboxes I specified the user's mailbox, but it didn't work too (same lack of permissions error). What am I doing wrong? How can I access the information? Don't tell me to restore de server from tape to another server (no time and no hardware available). Thanks for your help! _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Log in to user's mailboxes
Once you do manage to open the mailbox, how are you proposing to back it up? Regards Mr Louis Joyce Computer Support Analyst Network Administrator BT Ignite eSolutions -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 16 November 2001 10:21 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Log in to user's mailboxes Hi! I've been asked one thing that some of you may have already been asked to do before: access a user's mailbox and get a backup of everything in there. I'll not discuss the legal/ethical questions about this. I *really* need to get that information to my boss. I've searched Microsoft KB and found two articles: Q147354 XADM: Service Account Can Log In to any Mailbox and Q147362 XADM: Event ID: 1016 Logged Incorrectly in Application Event Log So, I've logged in to a machine using the account that is used to start all Exchange services, then I created a profile with the user's mailbox, but it didn't work. It complained about a lack of permissions. I then tried to create the profile with the services account and in the open additional mailboxes I specified the user's mailbox, but it didn't work too (same lack of permissions error). What am I doing wrong? How can I access the information? Don't tell me to restore de server from tape to another server (no time and no hardware available). Thanks for your help! _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: excel attachment could not be found
Brothers and sisters, Sorry voor mine late reaction, the problem is solved when we replaced ntuser.dat from network profile with a default ntuser.dat. gr -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Verzonden: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 6:20 AM Aan: Exchange Discussions Onderwerp: RE: excel attachment could not be found That's it! I was trying to remember that. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Candee Vaglica Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 5:41 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: excel attachment could not be found Open Excel, under tools, options - general. Uncheck Ignore other applications Good luck. Candee MOS+UN -Original Message- From: Kiran, Murat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 8:03 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: excel attachment could not be found Brothers and Sisters, IOne of my manager has the following problem: When he recieves a message with excel attachment. He tries to open excel file and he gets : file can not be found error. He then save the file as.and then opens it from his pc or network share.it rules. He doesnt has the same problem with other attachments (word etc). From another pc it goes also good. is this a local office installation problem or?I installed office already again. but stillno solution. is thera another thing that i dont see. exchange 5.5 with outlook 98 client. gr _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Log in to user's mailboxes
Thanks to all! I'm now waiting to see if the permissions work. I'll back it up creating a .pst with all the information (no big problem on that). Do you suggest anything else? Once you do manage to open the mailbox, how are you proposing to back it up? Regards Mr Louis Joyce Computer Support Analyst Network Administrator BT Ignite eSolutions -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 16 November 2001 10:21 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Log in to user's mailboxes Hi! I've been asked one thing that some of you may have already been asked to do before: access a user's mailbox and get a backup of everything in there. I'll not discuss the legal/ethical questions about this. I *really* need to get that information to my boss. I've searched Microsoft KB and found two articles: Q147354 XADM: Service Account Can Log In to any Mailbox and Q147362 XADM: Event ID: 1016 Logged Incorrectly in Application Event Log So, I've logged in to a machine using the account that is used to start all Exchange services, then I created a profile with the user's mailbox, but it didn't work. It complained about a lack of permissions. I then tried to create the profile with the services account and in the open additional mailboxes I specified the user's mailbox, but it didn't work too (same lack of permissions error). What am I doing wrong? How can I access the information? Don't tell me to restore de server from tape to another server (no time and no hardware available). Thanks for your help! _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Event ID 7200
Hi All, Last week I received an error, it was event id 7200 and event id 7201. exchange was locked and no one could get into their Mailboxes. I rebooted the box and everything was ok. I felt that IS was corrupted so I ran (ISINTEG -fix pri -test alltests) until I got 0 errors. This morning I found the same thing had happen but this time I only received event id 7200, once again I rebooted and everthing is fine. I cant believe after 4 days the IS is corrupted once again. The errors were: background thread FDoMaintenance halted due to error code 0xfaf background thread FDoQuotaCheck halted due to error code 0xfaf All were event id 7200. Please if anyone has any ideas I would like to know about them. I have Exchange 5.5 SP4. Thanks Paula [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Log in to user's mailboxes
Thats what i was thinking. Sounds good to me. Regards Mr Louis Joyce Computer Support Analyst Network Administrator BT Ignite eSolutions -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 16 November 2001 11:26 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Log in to user's mailboxes Thanks to all! I'm now waiting to see if the permissions work. I'll back it up creating a .pst with all the information (no big problem on that). Do you suggest anything else? Once you do manage to open the mailbox, how are you proposing to back it up? Regards Mr Louis Joyce Computer Support Analyst Network Administrator BT Ignite eSolutions -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 16 November 2001 10:21 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Log in to user's mailboxes Hi! I've been asked one thing that some of you may have already been asked to do before: access a user's mailbox and get a backup of everything in there. I'll not discuss the legal/ethical questions about this. I *really* need to get that information to my boss. I've searched Microsoft KB and found two articles: Q147354 XADM: Service Account Can Log In to any Mailbox and Q147362 XADM: Event ID: 1016 Logged Incorrectly in Application Event Log So, I've logged in to a machine using the account that is used to start all Exchange services, then I created a profile with the user's mailbox, but it didn't work. It complained about a lack of permissions. I then tried to create the profile with the services account and in the open additional mailboxes I specified the user's mailbox, but it didn't work too (same lack of permissions error). What am I doing wrong? How can I access the information? Don't tell me to restore de server from tape to another server (no time and no hardware available). Thanks for your help! _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
GAL permissions problem
Hi folks, We've got an Exchange organisation here with 2 sites, each with a server running Exchange 5.5 SP4. There are 2 domains, the boundaries of which are the same as the sites, connected by a 2-way trust. Connectivity between the sites/domains is very good (lan speeds), we are set up this way for organisational/historical/political reasons, not technical ones. There is a site connector between the sites. We have a problem in one of the 2 sites, in that most users found one day that they could not see the GAL. Domain admins in this site could. This site runs in an NT4 domain. There were no GAL problems visible in the connected site. An additional problem discovered slightly later is that the only users in the second site who could see the calendars of users in the site with problems were those logged in to their domain with admin rights. Users in this second site are in a W2K native-mode domain. I do not directly administer either the Exchange server or the NT domain controllers in the site with the GAL problem. I'm assured that this happened suddenly without anyone making any changes, I'm not sure whether to take my colleages' word for this! We've not seen any problem with the mail flow between the sites, nor have any non-Exchange problems been reported, as far as I know. Directory replication between the sites appears fine. Anyone got any ideas where I should start looking? Initial research on Technet suggests problems with Address Book Views (Q173760, Q248398), but although there is an ABV set up, this has never been used. We have checked the rights on this and no-one has been explicitly given rights. In addition, we are not seeing the abnormal CPU ultilizations associated with ABV storms. Cathy Jackson Shefield Hallam University, UK _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Event ID 7200
also: http://www.eventid.net/display.asp?eventid=7201source= Regards Mr Louis Joyce Computer Support Analyst Network Administrator BT Ignite eSolutions -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 16 November 2001 11:33 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Event ID 7200 Hi All, Last week I received an error, it was event id 7200 and event id 7201. exchange was locked and no one could get into their Mailboxes. I rebooted the box and everything was ok. I felt that IS was corrupted so I ran (ISINTEG -fix pri -test alltests) until I got 0 errors. This morning I found the same thing had happen but this time I only received event id 7200, once again I rebooted and everthing is fine. I cant believe after 4 days the IS is corrupted once again. The errors were: background thread FDoMaintenance halted due to error code 0xfaf background thread FDoQuotaCheck halted due to error code 0xfaf All were event id 7200. Please if anyone has any ideas I would like to know about them. I have Exchange 5.5 SP4. Thanks Paula [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: IMS questions
Ahh, the joys of Inbound Only and Outbound Only IMCs... A few issues here. First, as you've found, the Inbound Only setting doesn't do a whole lot of anything. Its a strange bug that never seemed to get fixed, but the work arounds are simple. Second, since you're dealing with site routing (multiple sites), part of the issue here is that, for its given address space (on the Address SPace tab - and it is most likely * [wildcard]), this IMC is the lowest cost path out. Keep in mind that since the Inbound only setting doesn't cut it, cost will count. By default, all connectors have a cost of 1, and all costs are additive. In other words, assuming all your connectors have costs of 1, the IMC on the other side of the X.400 link will have an apparent cost of 2 for the users on this box (1 for the IMC and 1 for the X.400), while this one is costed at one. The maximum cost is 100, so go ahead and set it to 100 (Address Space Tab). Third, mail routing will happen via the most specific match of address space, with * being the least specific. Another method (and more foolproof than adjusting the cost) is to set this IMC with an address space that cannot be matched, which will result in it never getting selected. For historical reasons, the easiest way to ensure this is to change the address space for the connector from * to clownpenis.fart. After making any of these changes, you need to restart the service for the change to take effect. Roger -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE MCT Senior Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems Atlanta, GA http://www.peregrine.com -Original Message- From: Lloyd, D (Dave) (IT Systems) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 12:06 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: IMS questions Hi all, I need a bit of help! We've recently added an IMS connector to one of our servers and configured it for Incoming only. An SMTP relay server then pokes mail through port 25 to pass to exchange mail boxes. This all works ok and was created soley to receive mail from a new e-banking network. The problem is that outgoing SMTP addressed mail should NOT go to the IMS, since it should use our x400 backbone. This is because there is no Internet connection available for the connector yet. Over the last week or so, users have started complaining that Internet mail is not getting out. Tracking specific messages show that the mail appears to hit the IMS. Since it has no Internet connection it cannot go anywhere. However, other messages successfully hit the X400 and get out to the Internet as planned. My questions are thus: I have enabled logging on the IMS, but where do they get stored? Event logs have nothing. Can the tracking.logs be interpreted by an application to make them easier to understand? Why would any mail hit the IMs at all if it is configured for Inbound only? Under the Address Space Tab, we set the cost to 100 and the scope to Location. I just read about troubleshooting outgoing mail, and it mentioned that if Address is too restrictive it will play a part. It suggests setting t to *. * is the default and is what ours was. Thinking this might be a key, I have set it to a fictitious domain of .nowhereatall. My thinking is that any mail NOT destined for .nowhereatall will automatically be routed via x400 and not IMS. Does this sound correct? What do the Delivery Restrictions do/apply to? I could accept mail from no-one, but would this affect the incoming from e-banking? If anyone has any ideas, please advise. We're running Exchange 5.5 (Enterprise) SP3 on NT4 SP5 cheers Dave == De informatie opgenomen in dit bericht kan vertrouwelijk zijn en is uitsluitend bestemd voor de geadresseerde. Indien u dit bericht onterecht ontvangt wordt u verzocht de inhoud niet te gebruiken en de afzender direct te informeren door het bericht te retourneren. == The information contained in this message may be confidential and is intended to be exclusively for the addressee. Should you receive this message unintentionally, please do not use the contents herein and notify the sender immediately by return e-mail. == _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe:
RE: Event ID 7200
Quick search returns Q183400, which shows which tests to run to try to fix the errors (you don't have to run alltests to do it). There is something else going on, though. My gut would be that you have a filesystem antivirus package hitting \exchsrvr\mdbdata, which could cause this. Make sure that all file based antivirus is skipping all directories in all \exchsrvr directories that have the word data in them (mdbdata, dsadata, imcdata, etc). You might want to enable NT file auditing and audit access to priv.edb. I'd also call PSS and get them involved. Roger -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE MCT Senior Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems Atlanta, GA http://www.peregrine.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 6:33 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Event ID 7200 Hi All, Last week I received an error, it was event id 7200 and event id 7201. exchange was locked and no one could get into their Mailboxes. I rebooted the box and everything was ok. I felt that IS was corrupted so I ran (ISINTEG -fix pri -test alltests) until I got 0 errors. This morning I found the same thing had happen but this time I only received event id 7200, once again I rebooted and everthing is fine. I cant believe after 4 days the IS is corrupted once again. The errors were: background thread FDoMaintenance halted due to error code 0xfaf background thread FDoQuotaCheck halted due to error code 0xfaf All were event id 7200. Please if anyone has any ideas I would like to know about them. I have Exchange 5.5 SP4. Thanks Paula [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Event ID 7200
Hi Louis, Thanks for the Q ariticals. However these do not reference my error code. The overloaded server may be an something for me to look into. But the other references Exchange 2000. I have searched thru the knowledge base and found nothing on event id 7200 and the errors background thread FDoMaintenance halted due to error code 0xfaf background thread FDoQuotaCheck halted due to error code 0xfaf. This could be a tough problem. Thanks Paula Aspen System Corporation _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: IMS questions
Removing the address space completely (no address space) is far more efficient way of dealing with your problem. The removal of the address space will result in your IMS being removed form the routing table (an advantage in a complex environment) while still allowing the IMS to receive mail. Setting the IMS to inbound or Both will allow the IMS to receive but because it is not in the routing table it wouldn't be used to route a message externally. Mike -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 16 November 2001 12:07 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: IMS questions Ahh, the joys of Inbound Only and Outbound Only IMCs... A few issues here. First, as you've found, the Inbound Only setting doesn't do a whole lot of anything. Its a strange bug that never seemed to get fixed, but the work arounds are simple. Second, since you're dealing with site routing (multiple sites), part of the issue here is that, for its given address space (on the Address SPace tab - and it is most likely * [wildcard]), this IMC is the lowest cost path out. Keep in mind that since the Inbound only setting doesn't cut it, cost will count. By default, all connectors have a cost of 1, and all costs are additive. In other words, assuming all your connectors have costs of 1, the IMC on the other side of the X.400 link will have an apparent cost of 2 for the users on this box (1 for the IMC and 1 for the X.400), while this one is costed at one. The maximum cost is 100, so go ahead and set it to 100 (Address Space Tab). Third, mail routing will happen via the most specific match of address space, with * being the least specific. Another method (and more foolproof than adjusting the cost) is to set this IMC with an address space that cannot be matched, which will result in it never getting selected. For historical reasons, the easiest way to ensure this is to change the address space for the connector from * to clownpenis.fart. After making any of these changes, you need to restart the service for the change to take effect. Roger -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE MCT Senior Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems Atlanta, GA http://www.peregrine.com -Original Message- From: Lloyd, D (Dave) (IT Systems) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 12:06 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: IMS questions Hi all, I need a bit of help! We've recently added an IMS connector to one of our servers and configured it for Incoming only. An SMTP relay server then pokes mail through port 25 to pass to exchange mail boxes. This all works ok and was created soley to receive mail from a new e-banking network. The problem is that outgoing SMTP addressed mail should NOT go to the IMS, since it should use our x400 backbone. This is because there is no Internet connection available for the connector yet. Over the last week or so, users have started complaining that Internet mail is not getting out. Tracking specific messages show that the mail appears to hit the IMS. Since it has no Internet connection it cannot go anywhere. However, other messages successfully hit the X400 and get out to the Internet as planned. My questions are thus: I have enabled logging on the IMS, but where do they get stored? Event logs have nothing. Can the tracking.logs be interpreted by an application to make them easier to understand? Why would any mail hit the IMs at all if it is configured for Inbound only? Under the Address Space Tab, we set the cost to 100 and the scope to Location. I just read about troubleshooting outgoing mail, and it mentioned that if Address is too restrictive it will play a part. It suggests setting t to *. * is the default and is what ours was. Thinking this might be a key, I have set it to a fictitious domain of .nowhereatall. My thinking is that any mail NOT destined for .nowhereatall will automatically be routed via x400 and not IMS. Does this sound correct? What do the Delivery Restrictions do/apply to? I could accept mail from no-one, but would this affect the incoming from e-banking? If anyone has any ideas, please advise. We're running Exchange 5.5 (Enterprise) SP3 on NT4 SP5 cheers Dave == De informatie opgenomen in dit bericht kan vertrouwelijk zijn en is uitsluitend bestemd voor de geadresseerde. Indien u dit bericht onterecht ontvangt wordt u verzocht de inhoud niet te gebruiken en de afzender direct te informeren door het bericht te retourneren. == The information contained in this message may be confidential and is intended to be exclusively for the
RE: Event ID 7200
Thanks Roger, I did have the mdbdata excluded but may not have has IMCdata in the exclusion list. I added all of exchsrvr to my exclusion list. I do also believe that it has to do virus software. I have NAI and there is a problem with the virus api that I tried to correct by upping the value OpenRetryDelay from 5000 to 1. I believe it has helped the problem. This error would only show it ugly face sometimes and it was a communitcation error that did not really exist. I may need to bring that value back down and put up with the other error. thanks for your help Paula Aspen Systems _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: GAL permissions problem
Have search permissions been set by the administrator in the Exchange Server Administrator program? Do they get an error message when they try to access the GAL? The search control in Exchange Server 5.5 is used to limit GAL access, and after being set by an administrator, the recipients in the GAL may become unavailable. If the Search permissions were set in error, then removing the Search permissions in the Exchange Server Administrator program will correct the look of the global address list. For additional information on how to check search permissions, please see the following articles in the Microsoft Knowledge Base: Q182902 XADM: How To Setup Container Level Search Control Q173760 XADM: User's GAL Displayed Differently Based on Search Control Ben -Original Message- From: Jackson, Cathy M [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 16 November 2001 11:33 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: GAL permissions problem Hi folks, We've got an Exchange organisation here with 2 sites, each with a server running Exchange 5.5 SP4. There are 2 domains, the boundaries of which are the same as the sites, connected by a 2-way trust. Connectivity between the sites/domains is very good (lan speeds), we are set up this way for organisational/historical/political reasons, not technical ones. There is a site connector between the sites. We have a problem in one of the 2 sites, in that most users found one day that they could not see the GAL. Domain admins in this site could. This site runs in an NT4 domain. There were no GAL problems visible in the connected site. An additional problem discovered slightly later is that the only users in the second site who could see the calendars of users in the site with problems were those logged in to their domain with admin rights. Users in this second site are in a W2K native-mode domain. I do not directly administer either the Exchange server or the NT domain controllers in the site with the GAL problem. I'm assured that this happened suddenly without anyone making any changes, I'm not sure whether to take my colleages' word for this! We've not seen any problem with the mail flow between the sites, nor have any non-Exchange problems been reported, as far as I know. Directory replication between the sites appears fine. Anyone got any ideas where I should start looking? Initial research on Technet suggests problems with Address Book Views (Q173760, Q248398), but although there is an ABV set up, this has never been used. We have checked the rights on this and no-one has been explicitly given rights. In addition, we are not seeing the abnormal CPU ultilizations associated with ABV storms. Cathy Jackson Shefield Hallam University, UK _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
OT: Tape Storage
Here's a somewhat off-topic question. How do you store your tapes? We have a small network, and a lot of backup tapes. I know many of you have larger networks than we do, so must have a sh*tpile of tapes. How do you store them? Right now ours are just laying on a table (except for the off-site ones). It'd be nice to have some kind of wall-mounted shelf that allowed for some organization, yet would still keep them handy. Does anybody have a good source? Thanks, Rob -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rob Moore Network Administrator The Agnes Irwin School [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Tape Storage
Fire-proof site every time for us. In a separate building on site for the 'keep to hand ones' and completely off-site for the rest (archives and all that). Shelves aren't that good in a fire!! Tris -Original Message- From: Robert Moore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 16 November 2001 14:02 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: OT: Tape Storage Here's a somewhat off-topic question. How do you store your tapes? We have a small network, and a lot of backup tapes. I know many of you have larger networks than we do, so must have a sh*tpile of tapes. How do you store them? Right now ours are just laying on a table (except for the off-site ones). It'd be nice to have some kind of wall-mounted shelf that allowed for some organization, yet would still keep them handy. Does anybody have a good source? Thanks, Rob -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rob Moore Network Administrator The Agnes Irwin School [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Log in to user's mailboxes
Why not Exmerge? -Original Message- From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 6:33 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Log in to user's mailboxes Thats what i was thinking. Sounds good to me. Regards Mr Louis Joyce Computer Support Analyst Network Administrator BT Ignite eSolutions -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 16 November 2001 11:26 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Log in to user's mailboxes Thanks to all! I'm now waiting to see if the permissions work. I'll back it up creating a .pst with all the information (no big problem on that). Do you suggest anything else? Once you do manage to open the mailbox, how are you proposing to back it up? Regards Mr Louis Joyce Computer Support Analyst Network Administrator BT Ignite eSolutions -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 16 November 2001 10:21 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Log in to user's mailboxes Hi! I've been asked one thing that some of you may have already been asked to do before: access a user's mailbox and get a backup of everything in there. I'll not discuss the legal/ethical questions about this. I *really* need to get that information to my boss. I've searched Microsoft KB and found two articles: Q147354 XADM: Service Account Can Log In to any Mailbox and Q147362 XADM: Event ID: 1016 Logged Incorrectly in Application Event Log So, I've logged in to a machine using the account that is used to start all Exchange services, then I created a profile with the user's mailbox, but it didn't work. It complained about a lack of permissions. I then tried to create the profile with the services account and in the open additional mailboxes I specified the user's mailbox, but it didn't work too (same lack of permissions error). What am I doing wrong? How can I access the information? Don't tell me to restore de server from tape to another server (no time and no hardware available). Thanks for your help! _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Tape Storage
Fire safe for one week. Shipped off-site every Friday. Every Friday they bring me back 8-week old tapes for me to use the following Monday. They can have my tapes back here in one hour in an emergency (and I just had one). :( -Original Message- From: Robert Moore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 8:02 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: OT: Tape Storage Here's a somewhat off-topic question. How do you store your tapes? We have a small network, and a lot of backup tapes. I know many of you have larger networks than we do, so must have a sh*tpile of tapes. How do you store them? Right now ours are just laying on a table (except for the off-site ones). It'd be nice to have some kind of wall-mounted shelf that allowed for some organization, yet would still keep them handy. Does anybody have a good source? Thanks, Rob -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rob Moore Network Administrator The Agnes Irwin School [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Am I in need of a serious db defrag?
Experienced this the last week or so here. Turned off mixed mode and all is well. I've also seen this error running Trend's Scanmail in AVAPI mode. -Original Message- From: Bernadette Gerber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 5:26 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Am I in need of a serious db defrag? Eric-- Just a thought, but are you running NAV for Exchange in mixed mode? There's a Knowledgebase article on Symnantec's site about this one. --Bernadette Gerber/NT and Exchange Administrator/ESRI Redlands -Original Message- From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 9:07 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Am I in need of a serious db defrag? Hi Starting to get users who can't delete emails that have attachments in them or otherwise large messages, error returned is 'The item could not be deleted. It was either moved or already deleted, or access was denied'. Checked both the server event log and my own but found nothing related to this. Am I looking at some fragmentation problems? Client Outlook 2000 Exchange 5.5 sp4hot on Nt4 sp6 Single site in single domain E- _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Suggestions would help thanks
I might not be the most qualified but I am still learning. All I have to say is you have to start somewhere. Its my first job in this field and been doing it for just under a year now. I have no one else who handles the servers for me so I am the only one here. This is why I like to read this disscussion forum it is a great resource. From: Stephen Mynhier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 2:00 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Suggestions would help thanks Chris, I think that they try to make up the lost cost savings by hiring completely unqualified people to do IT. Stephen -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 11:50 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Suggestions would help thanks No, my searches are quite speedy. Are there actually companies which buy Microsoft software and don't get TechNet subscriptions? The mind boggles at the lost cost savings. Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 3:52 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Suggestions would help thanks seriously I have noticed that microsoft.com and TechNet is pretty slow. I guess they have too much traffic on their servers. It is kind of weird has anyone else noticed this? -Original Message- From: Stephen Mynhier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 1:41 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Suggestions would help thanks And posting here and waiting on a response is much faster than MS's search? Hm Let me ponder that for a moment... -Original Message- From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 10:32 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Suggestions would help thanks I am the LMHOST KING bow down to me !! o yeah microsoft.com have been slow latly when doing searchs -Original Message- From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 11:36 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Suggestions would help thanks Here's an even better site. www.google.com This provides a much better hit ratio then Microsoft's website. I have about a 50% success rate with their knowledge base returning the appropriate information. Good luck. -Original Message- From: Tom.Gray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 10:21 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Suggestions would help thanks hey, here's a secret site : www.microsoft.com they have a thing called a knowledge base If you search for LMHOSTS you get a peek into over 100 articles with information about LMHOSTS files. Don't tell anybody else about this site, just give them the answers after you have researched it yourself and you look like a genius! Looks like #5 and #7 would be a great place to start. Search Results Your search for lmhosts found 104 matches. 1 through 10 are listed below. 1 Name Resolution Using Lmhosts May Generate System Error 1214 (Q219381) 2 Performance Monitor Logs Lose Data Across Subnets (Q237579) 3 Win95/98/NT Dialup, Authentication, Browsing Using TCPIP, IPX/SPX, or NetBEUI (Q232511) 4 Bringing Up a Windows NT Advanced Server in a TCP/IP WAN (Q102044) 5 The Lmhosts File for TCP/IP in Windows (Q101927) 6 How to Troubleshoot TCP/IP Connectivity with Windows (Q102908) 7 LMHOSTS File Information and Predefined Keywords (Q102725) 8 REG: TCP/IP Transport Entries, Part 2 (Q102974) 9 Embedding Non-printable Characters in LMHOSTS Computer Names (Q104576) 10 Windows NT NBTSTAT -R vs. LAN Manager ADDNAME (Q107060) Tom Gray, Network Engineer All Kinds of Minds The Center for Development and Learning University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ATT Net: (919)960- -Original Message- From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 10:30 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Suggestions would help thanks Bob, I use the lmhost file for my clients and it works like a charm. I would like to know if you know where I could find more info about lmhost files. Right now I have the lmhost file set only for 1 server which is the exchange server. Do you know the parameters to enter in the lmhost file to give more access to the entire network. Thanks Rich -Original Message- From: Bob Sadler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 9:48 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Suggestions would help thanks Richard: This is possible without making any changes, except to the W98 clients themselves. Merely add the Microsoft for Networking Client on each machine,
RE: 1 domain = 2 domains
An e2k bakup server for an exchange 5.5 server probably wont be much good due to the different versions. But please explain what you are aiming to achieve with this config. Regards Mr Louis Joyce Computer Support Analyst Network Administrator BT Ignite eSolutions -Original Message- From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 16 November 2001 14:36 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: 1 domain = 2 domains Is this allowed: Have exchange 5.5 on NT 4 as the primary exchange server and have a backup server with windows 2000 server and exchange 2000. RGDS Rich _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Am I in need of a serious db defrag?
Good points, I could turn it off but I am curious is the nav causing a corruption or is the nav just causing the error and there is no real corruption? -Original Message- From: Quiram, Nadia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 6:21 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Am I in need of a serious db defrag? Experienced this the last week or so here. Turned off mixed mode and all is well. I've also seen this error running Trend's Scanmail in AVAPI mode. -Original Message- From: Bernadette Gerber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 5:26 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Am I in need of a serious db defrag? Eric-- Just a thought, but are you running NAV for Exchange in mixed mode? There's a Knowledgebase article on Symnantec's site about this one. --Bernadette Gerber/NT and Exchange Administrator/ESRI Redlands -Original Message- From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 9:07 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Am I in need of a serious db defrag? Hi Starting to get users who can't delete emails that have attachments in them or otherwise large messages, error returned is 'The item could not be deleted. It was either moved or already deleted, or access was denied'. Checked both the server event log and my own but found nothing related to this. Am I looking at some fragmentation problems? Client Outlook 2000 Exchange 5.5 sp4hot on Nt4 sp6 Single site in single domain E- _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Am I in need of a serious db defrag?
I'd give PSS a call. -Original Message- From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:19 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Am I in need of a serious db defrag? Good points, I could turn it off but I am curious is the nav causing a corruption or is the nav just causing the error and there is no real corruption? -Original Message- From: Quiram, Nadia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 6:21 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Am I in need of a serious db defrag? Experienced this the last week or so here. Turned off mixed mode and all is well. I've also seen this error running Trend's Scanmail in AVAPI mode. -Original Message- From: Bernadette Gerber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 5:26 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Am I in need of a serious db defrag? Eric-- Just a thought, but are you running NAV for Exchange in mixed mode? There's a Knowledgebase article on Symnantec's site about this one. --Bernadette Gerber/NT and Exchange Administrator/ESRI Redlands -Original Message- From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 9:07 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Am I in need of a serious db defrag? Hi Starting to get users who can't delete emails that have attachments in them or otherwise large messages, error returned is 'The item could not be deleted. It was either moved or already deleted, or access was denied'. Checked both the server event log and my own but found nothing related to this. Am I looking at some fragmentation problems? Client Outlook 2000 Exchange 5.5 sp4hot on Nt4 sp6 Single site in single domain E- _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Proxy Server Windows NT Challenge/Response
Hi all, Can anyone provide any help on how to get the above to work with a proxy server or point me in a direction where I could get some help??!! For some reason I can't get the Network Password box to appear unless I disable the proxy! I may need to submit this to another list...if so can someone let me know of a good one. All help very much appreciated. Thanks in advance. Stephanie UoG UK _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Proxy Server Windows NT Challenge/Response
Hi Stephanie, The above didn't appeardid u post it as an attachment? I don't think this list allows its members to post those. Regards E. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Proxy Server Windows NT Challenge/Response Hi all, Can anyone provide any help on how to get the above to work with a proxy server or point me in a direction where I could get some help??!! For some reason I can't get the Network Password box to appear unless I disable the proxy! I may need to submit this to another list...if so can someone let me know of a good one. All help very much appreciated. Thanks in advance. Stephanie UoG UK _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Proxy Server Windows NT Challenge/Response
By 'above' I think she meant the Subject -Original Message- From: Elizabeth Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 16 November 2001 23:22 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Proxy Server Windows NT Challenge/Response Hi Stephanie, The above didn't appeardid u post it as an attachment? I don't think this list allows its members to post those. Regards E. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Proxy Server Windows NT Challenge/Response Hi all, Can anyone provide any help on how to get the above to work with a proxy server or point me in a direction where I could get some help??!! For some reason I can't get the Network Password box to appear unless I disable the proxy! I may need to submit this to another list...if so can someone let me know of a good one. All help very much appreciated. Thanks in advance. Stephanie UoG UK _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Proxy Server Windows NT Challenge/Response
Try http://www.iisfaq.com/ for proxy related info Michael O'Toole - Original Message - From: Halliday S (ISELS) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:20 AM Subject: Proxy Server Windows NT Challenge/Response Hi all, Can anyone provide any help on how to get the above to work with a proxy server or point me in a direction where I could get some help??!! For some reason I can't get the Network Password box to appear unless I disable the proxy! I may need to submit this to another list...if so can someone let me know of a good one. All help very much appreciated. Thanks in advance. Stephanie UoG UK _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)
I've started getting some strange Outbound messages to Postmaster. Please take a look. It appears that these messages are originating from the inside but I am not sure how to track down their source. Any suggestions? --- A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has expired. The message was not delivered to the following addresses: The message that caused this notification was: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Subject: Undeliverable: Lowest mortgage rates on the web! --- A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has expired. The message was not delivered to the following addresses: The message that caused this notification was: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Subject: Undeliverable: Congrats! You're a Winner! --- A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has expired. The message was not delivered to the following addresses: The message that caused this notification was: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Subject: Undeliverable: Never pay another phone bill again _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Haiku Friday
Thank God this is done New Switch is finally installed Exchange still running Denis _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)
FAQ -Original Message- From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:38 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster) I've started getting some strange Outbound messages to Postmaster. Please take a look. It appears that these messages are originating from the inside but I am not sure how to track down their source. Any suggestions? --- A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has expired. The message was not delivered to the following addresses: The message that caused this notification was: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Subject: Undeliverable: Lowest mortgage rates on the web! --- A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has expired. The message was not delivered to the following addresses: The message that caused this notification was: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Subject: Undeliverable: Congrats! You're a Winner! --- A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has expired. The message was not delivered to the following addresses: The message that caused this notification was: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Subject: Undeliverable: Never pay another phone bill again _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: 1 domain = 2 domains
I have one exchange server 5.5 for two different companies on the same network. We have two buildings connected by a bridge we want to purchase a backup exchange server so if one building would burn down we could still use the server in the other building for our email. -Original Message- From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:44 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: 1 domain = 2 domains An e2k bakup server for an exchange 5.5 server probably wont be much good due to the different versions. But please explain what you are aiming to achieve with this config. Regards Mr Louis Joyce Computer Support Analyst Network Administrator BT Ignite eSolutions -Original Message- From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 16 November 2001 14:36 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: 1 domain = 2 domains Is this allowed: Have exchange 5.5 on NT 4 as the primary exchange server and have a backup server with windows 2000 server and exchange 2000. RGDS Rich _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Odd Q. (Was: Proxy Server Windows NT Challenge/Response)
So that would read as: Can anyone provide any help on how to get Proxy Server Windows NT Challenge/Response to work with a proxy server or point.. snip??? H, sorry if I misread it Stephanie, but perhaps you are the person to clear this up? Regards E. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Proxy Server Windows NT Challenge/Response By 'above' I think she meant the Subject -Original Message- From: Elizabeth Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Subject: RE: Proxy Server Windows NT Challenge/Response Hi Stephanie, The above didn't appeardid u post it as an attachment? I don't think this list allows its members to post those. Regards E. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Proxy Server Windows NT Challenge/Response Hi all, Can anyone provide any help on how to get the above to work with a proxy server or point me in a direction where I could get some help??!! For some reason I can't get the Network Password box to appear unless I disable the proxy! I may need to submit this to another list...if so can someone let me know of a good one. All help very much appreciated. Thanks in advance. Stephanie UoG UK _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)
Doh.. Sorry. 3.39 Q: Messages are being sent from my site with an empty originator, A: That is a system generated message, either an NDR or a delivery receipt. See RFC-821, section 3.6 for the reasoning behind this. -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:31 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster) FAQ -Original Message- From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:38 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster) I've started getting some strange Outbound messages to Postmaster. Please take a look. It appears that these messages are originating from the inside but I am not sure how to track down their source. Any suggestions? --- A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has expired. The message was not delivered to the following addresses: The message that caused this notification was: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Subject: Undeliverable: Lowest mortgage rates on the web! --- A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has expired. The message was not delivered to the following addresses: The message that caused this notification was: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Subject: Undeliverable: Congrats! You're a Winner! --- A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has expired. The message was not delivered to the following addresses: The message that caused this notification was: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Subject: Undeliverable: Never pay another phone bill again _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Haiku Friday
Thank God it's Friday Tacos for dinner tonight Have a nice weekend -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Denis Baldwin Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:29 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Haiku Friday Thank God this is done New Switch is finally installed Exchange still running Denis _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)
hehe. And actually it should be 2821 ,( Section 6.1 I believe) -Original Message- From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:42 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster) Doh.. Sorry. 3.39 Q: Messages are being sent from my site with an empty originator, A: That is a system generated message, either an NDR or a delivery receipt. See RFC-821, section 3.6 for the reasoning behind this. -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:31 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster) FAQ -Original Message- From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:38 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster) I've started getting some strange Outbound messages to Postmaster. Please take a look. It appears that these messages are originating from the inside but I am not sure how to track down their source. Any suggestions? --- A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has expired. The message was not delivered to the following addresses: The message that caused this notification was: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Subject: Undeliverable: Lowest mortgage rates on the web! --- A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has expired. The message was not delivered to the following addresses: The message that caused this notification was: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Subject: Undeliverable: Congrats! You're a Winner! --- A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has expired. The message was not delivered to the following addresses: The message that caused this notification was: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Subject: Undeliverable: Never pay another phone bill again _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Quick 5.5 question
Where do you set permissions for users mailboxes in Exchange 5.5 I think 2K has messed me up, there is NO permissions tab. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Quick 5.5 question
Tools/Options/Permissions -Original Message- From: John Q Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:41 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Quick 5.5 question Where do you set permissions for users mailboxes in Exchange 5.5 I think 2K has messed me up, there is NO permissions tab. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
LDP.EXE for Exchange 5.5 on NT4
TechNet article Q259282 says that there are different versions of this - one for Ex5.5 the other Win2K. It says The Exchange version is found on the Exchange 5.5 Resource Kit. It doesn't. I've exhausted all my sources still no joy. If anyone has even seen the Exchange version of this I'd be pleased to know where it might reside. Thanks, Dave Barnes Cambridge UK _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)
You're being spammed by the looks of things, unless you are intentionally sending out emails with the subject lines you are describing below. You need to turn relaying off or configure it correctly. Regards Mr Louis Joyce Computer Support Analyst Network Administrator BT Ignite eSolutions -Original Message- From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 16 November 2001 15:56 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster) Ok. I've read both Faqs. Now what? I did not read anything that tells me how to track down the source of the message. There does not appear to be any information to go by. Can I track by Message ID? How do I get the message ID from a Postmaster notification? How do I determine the source? -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:39 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster) hehe. And actually it should be 2821 ,( Section 6.1 I believe) -Original Message- From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:42 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster) Doh.. Sorry. 3.39 Q: Messages are being sent from my site with an empty originator, A: That is a system generated message, either an NDR or a delivery receipt. See RFC-821, section 3.6 for the reasoning behind this. -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:31 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster) FAQ -Original Message- From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:38 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster) I've started getting some strange Outbound messages to Postmaster. Please take a look. It appears that these messages are originating from the inside but I am not sure how to track down their source. Any suggestions? --- A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has expired. The message was not delivered to the following addresses: The message that caused this notification was: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Subject: Undeliverable: Lowest mortgage rates on the web! --- A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has expired. The message was not delivered to the following addresses: The message that caused this notification was: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Subject: Undeliverable: Congrats! You're a Winner! --- A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has expired. The message was not delivered to the following addresses: The message that caused this notification was: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Subject: Undeliverable: Never pay another phone bill again _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ah coffee!
Just chugged down about 16oz after it had cooled a good bit. Hello World! Barry _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Haiku Friday
HP said parts on backorder. Feeling blue Can't do backups :o( Time for some MGD's in double digits _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)
RFC821 then it must construct an undeliverable mail notification message and send it to the originator of the undeliverable mail (as indicated by the reverse-path). This would seem to indicate relaying? However, I have my system setup to NOT relay. I've even tested (per the faq)? According to the telnet test I'm good-to-go? Am I missing something? -Original Message- From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:52 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster) You're being spammed by the looks of things, unless you are intentionally sending out emails with the subject lines you are describing below. You need to turn relaying off or configure it correctly. Regards Mr Louis Joyce Computer Support Analyst Network Administrator BT Ignite eSolutions -Original Message- From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 16 November 2001 15:56 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster) Ok. I've read both Faqs. Now what? I did not read anything that tells me how to track down the source of the message. There does not appear to be any information to go by. Can I track by Message ID? How do I get the message ID from a Postmaster notification? How do I determine the source? -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:39 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster) hehe. And actually it should be 2821 ,( Section 6.1 I believe) -Original Message- From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:42 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster) Doh.. Sorry. 3.39 Q: Messages are being sent from my site with an empty originator, A: That is a system generated message, either an NDR or a delivery receipt. See RFC-821, section 3.6 for the reasoning behind this. -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:31 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster) FAQ -Original Message- From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:38 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster) I've started getting some strange Outbound messages to Postmaster. Please take a look. It appears that these messages are originating from the inside but I am not sure how to track down their source. Any suggestions? --- A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has expired. The message was not delivered to the following addresses: The message that caused this notification was: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Subject: Undeliverable: Lowest mortgage rates on the web! --- A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has expired. The message was not delivered to the following addresses: The message that caused this notification was: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Subject: Undeliverable: Congrats! You're a Winner! --- A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has expired. The message was not delivered to the following addresses: The message that caused this notification was: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Subject: Undeliverable: Never pay another phone bill again _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)
I dont think that is going to prevent spam arriving at his door, otherwise we could all end it tomorrow. -Original Message- From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:52 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster) You're being spammed by the looks of things, unless you are intentionally sending out emails with the subject lines you are describing below. You need to turn relaying off or configure it correctly. Regards Mr Louis Joyce Computer Support Analyst Network Administrator BT Ignite eSolutions -Original Message- From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 16 November 2001 15:56 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster) Ok. I've read both Faqs. Now what? I did not read anything that tells me how to track down the source of the message. There does not appear to be any information to go by. Can I track by Message ID? How do I get the message ID from a Postmaster notification? How do I determine the source? -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:39 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster) hehe. And actually it should be 2821 ,( Section 6.1 I believe) -Original Message- From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:42 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster) Doh.. Sorry. 3.39 Q: Messages are being sent from my site with an empty originator, A: That is a system generated message, either an NDR or a delivery receipt. See RFC-821, section 3.6 for the reasoning behind this. -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:31 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster) FAQ -Original Message- From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:38 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster) I've started getting some strange Outbound messages to Postmaster. Please take a look. It appears that these messages are originating from the inside but I am not sure how to track down their source. Any suggestions? --- A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has expired. The message was not delivered to the following addresses: The message that caused this notification was: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Subject: Undeliverable: Lowest mortgage rates on the web! --- A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has expired. The message was not delivered to the following addresses: The message that caused this notification was: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Subject: Undeliverable: Congrats! You're a Winner! --- A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has expired. The message was not delivered to the following addresses: The message that caused this notification was: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Subject: Undeliverable: Never pay another phone bill again _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To
RE: Tape Storage
We use a place called The Lock-up here in Chicago. They have a fireproof storage facility out in the suburbs (more than 30 miles away), and they come and pick up our tapes every morning. Every tape has gets a little barcode on it, so they're easy to retrieve, and they'll use any tape rotation system you want. I think The Lock-up a national chain, and there are certainly plenty of other good storage companies out there. :::Ryan Malayter, MCSE :::Bank Administration Institute :::Chicago, Illinois, USA -Original Message- From: Robert Moore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 8:02 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: OT: Tape Storage Here's a somewhat off-topic question. How do you store your tapes? We have a small network, and a lot of backup tapes. I know many of you have larger networks than we do, so must have a sh*tpile of tapes. How do you store them? Right now ours are just laying on a table (except for the off-site ones). It'd be nice to have some kind of wall-mounted shelf that allowed for some organization, yet would still keep them handy. Does anybody have a good source? Thanks, Rob -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rob Moore Network Administrator The Agnes Irwin School [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Maybe this link may help... http://www.slipstick.com/exs/relay.htm I seems like u need to stop anonymous relay.! Do u route incoming smtp mail..? If so impliment proper routing restictions.. To check the anonymous realy, from an outside source telnet to mailserver:23(better yet use ssh) once connected try to send a mail message with a bogus mail from source and if it lets u send then anonymous relay is enabled. If anonymous relay is disabled it will display propmt like anonymous relaying denied.. just some thoughts.. ~John - -Original Message- From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:52 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster) You're being spammed by the looks of things, unless you are intentionally sending out emails with the subject lines you are describing below. You need to turn relaying off or configure it correctly. Regards Mr Louis Joyce Computer Support Analyst Network Administrator BT Ignite eSolutions - -Original Message- From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 16 November 2001 15:56 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster) Ok. I've read both Faqs. Now what? I did not read anything that tells me how to track down the source of the message. There does not appear to be any information to go by. Can I track by Message ID? How do I get the message ID from a Postmaster notification? How do I determine the source? - -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:39 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster) hehe. And actually it should be 2821 ,( Section 6.1 I believe) - -Original Message- From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:42 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster) Doh.. Sorry. 3.39 Q: Messages are being sent from my site with an empty originator, A: That is a system generated message, either an NDR or a delivery receipt. See RFC-821, section 3.6 for the reasoning behind this. - -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:31 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster) FAQ - -Original Message- From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:38 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster) I've started getting some strange Outbound messages to Postmaster. Please take a look. It appears that these messages are originating from the inside but I am not sure how to track down their source. Any suggestions? - --- A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has expired. The message was not delivered to the following addresses: The message that caused this notification was: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Subject: Undeliverable: Lowest mortgage rates on the web! - --- A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has expired. The message was not delivered to the following addresses: The message that caused this notification was: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Subject: Undeliverable: Congrats! You're a Winner! - --- A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has expired. The message was not delivered to the following addresses: The message that caused this notification was: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Subject: Undeliverable: Never pay another phone bill again _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)
What you are seeing are NDRS that can't be returned. I wouldnt worry about those. -Original Message- From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 11:09 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster) RFC821 then it must construct an undeliverable mail notification message and send it to the originator of the undeliverable mail (as indicated by the reverse-path). This would seem to indicate relaying? However, I have my system setup to NOT relay. I've even tested (per the faq)? According to the telnet test I'm good-to-go? Am I missing something? -Original Message- From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:52 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster) You're being spammed by the looks of things, unless you are intentionally sending out emails with the subject lines you are describing below. You need to turn relaying off or configure it correctly. Regards Mr Louis Joyce Computer Support Analyst Network Administrator BT Ignite eSolutions -Original Message- From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 16 November 2001 15:56 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster) Ok. I've read both Faqs. Now what? I did not read anything that tells me how to track down the source of the message. There does not appear to be any information to go by. Can I track by Message ID? How do I get the message ID from a Postmaster notification? How do I determine the source? -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:39 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster) hehe. And actually it should be 2821 ,( Section 6.1 I believe) -Original Message- From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:42 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster) Doh.. Sorry. 3.39 Q: Messages are being sent from my site with an empty originator, A: That is a system generated message, either an NDR or a delivery receipt. See RFC-821, section 3.6 for the reasoning behind this. -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:31 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster) FAQ -Original Message- From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:38 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster) I've started getting some strange Outbound messages to Postmaster. Please take a look. It appears that these messages are originating from the inside but I am not sure how to track down their source. Any suggestions? --- A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has expired. The message was not delivered to the following addresses: The message that caused this notification was: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Subject: Undeliverable: Lowest mortgage rates on the web! --- A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has expired. The message was not delivered to the following addresses: The message that caused this notification was: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Subject: Undeliverable: Congrats! You're a Winner! --- A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has expired. The message was not delivered to the following addresses: The message that caused this notification was: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Subject: Undeliverable: Never pay another phone bill again _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List
RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)
Sorry Mr. Joyce, I don't agree. Commercial email (unsolicited or not) is coming into his domain, but he is not relaying. Instead, the spammers are sending to invalid addresses within his domain and using invalid (or unresolvable) return addresses. So: 1) Spam comes in. 2) Exchange tries to bounce an NDR back to the return address. 3) The attempt fails after repeated attempts. 4) Exchange generates the message showing that the NDR could not be delivered to the return address in the message. Of course, you could try to contact the senders, but why would they care? Best thing to do is ignore the messages or blackhole the senders. -- be - MOS Earth Army Recruiting Center: What are you, chicken? Buk buk buk! -Original Message- From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:52 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster) You're being spammed by the looks of things, unless you are intentionally sending out emails with the subject lines you are describing below. You need to turn relaying off or configure it correctly. Regards Mr Louis Joyce Computer Support Analyst Network Administrator BT Ignite eSolutions -Original Message- From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 16 November 2001 15:56 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster) Ok. I've read both Faqs. Now what? I did not read anything that tells me how to track down the source of the message. There does not appear to be any information to go by. Can I track by Message ID? How do I get the message ID from a Postmaster notification? How do I determine the source? -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:39 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster) hehe. And actually it should be 2821 ,( Section 6.1 I believe) -Original Message- From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:42 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster) Doh.. Sorry. 3.39 Q: Messages are being sent from my site with an empty originator, A: That is a system generated message, either an NDR or a delivery receipt. See RFC-821, section 3.6 for the reasoning behind this. -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:31 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster) FAQ -Original Message- From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:38 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster) I've started getting some strange Outbound messages to Postmaster. Please take a look. It appears that these messages are originating from the inside but I am not sure how to track down their source. Any suggestions? --- A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has expired. The message was not delivered to the following addresses: The message that caused this notification was: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Subject: Undeliverable: Lowest mortgage rates on the web! --- A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has expired. The message was not delivered to the following addresses: The message that caused this notification was: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Subject: Undeliverable: Congrats! You're a Winner! --- A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has expired. The message was not delivered to the following addresses: The message that caused this notification was: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Subject: Undeliverable: Never pay another phone bill again _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 careful u don't end up here relays.mail-abuse.org hehe - -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 11:04 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster) What you are seeing are NDRS that can't be returned. I wouldnt worry about those. - -Original Message- From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 11:09 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster) RFC821 then it must construct an undeliverable mail notification message and send it to the originator of the undeliverable mail (as indicated by the reverse-path). This would seem to indicate relaying? However, I have my system setup to NOT relay. I've even tested (per the faq)? According to the telnet test I'm good-to-go? Am I missing something? - -Original Message- From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:52 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster) You're being spammed by the looks of things, unless you are intentionally sending out emails with the subject lines you are describing below. You need to turn relaying off or configure it correctly. Regards Mr Louis Joyce Computer Support Analyst Network Administrator BT Ignite eSolutions - -Original Message- From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 16 November 2001 15:56 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster) Ok. I've read both Faqs. Now what? I did not read anything that tells me how to track down the source of the message. There does not appear to be any information to go by. Can I track by Message ID? How do I get the message ID from a Postmaster notification? How do I determine the source? - -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:39 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster) hehe. And actually it should be 2821 ,( Section 6.1 I believe) - -Original Message- From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:42 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster) Doh.. Sorry. 3.39 Q: Messages are being sent from my site with an empty originator, A: That is a system generated message, either an NDR or a delivery receipt. See RFC-821, section 3.6 for the reasoning behind this. - -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:31 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster) FAQ - -Original Message- From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:38 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster) I've started getting some strange Outbound messages to Postmaster. Please take a look. It appears that these messages are originating from the inside but I am not sure how to track down their source. Any suggestions? - --- A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has expired. The message was not delivered to the following addresses: The message that caused this notification was: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Subject: Undeliverable: Lowest mortgage rates on the web! - --- A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has expired. The message was not delivered to the following addresses: The message that caused this notification was: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Subject: Undeliverable: Congrats! You're a Winner! - --- A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has expired. The message was not delivered to the following addresses: The message that caused this notification was: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Subject: Undeliverable: Never pay another phone bill again _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe:
RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)
You may want to read the relevant RFC on what means... -Original Message- From: King, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 11:07 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster) -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 careful u don't end up here relays.mail-abuse.org hehe - -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 11:04 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster) What you are seeing are NDRS that can't be returned. I wouldnt worry about those. - -Original Message- From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 11:09 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster) RFC821 then it must construct an undeliverable mail notification message and send it to the originator of the undeliverable mail (as indicated by the reverse-path). This would seem to indicate relaying? However, I have my system setup to NOT relay. I've even tested (per the faq)? According to the telnet test I'm good-to-go? Am I missing something? - -Original Message- From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:52 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster) You're being spammed by the looks of things, unless you are intentionally sending out emails with the subject lines you are describing below. You need to turn relaying off or configure it correctly. Regards Mr Louis Joyce Computer Support Analyst Network Administrator BT Ignite eSolutions - -Original Message- From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 16 November 2001 15:56 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster) Ok. I've read both Faqs. Now what? I did not read anything that tells me how to track down the source of the message. There does not appear to be any information to go by. Can I track by Message ID? How do I get the message ID from a Postmaster notification? How do I determine the source? - -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:39 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster) hehe. And actually it should be 2821 ,( Section 6.1 I believe) - -Original Message- From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:42 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster) Doh.. Sorry. 3.39 Q: Messages are being sent from my site with an empty originator, A: That is a system generated message, either an NDR or a delivery receipt. See RFC-821, section 3.6 for the reasoning behind this. - -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:31 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster) FAQ - -Original Message- From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:38 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster) I've started getting some strange Outbound messages to Postmaster. Please take a look. It appears that these messages are originating from the inside but I am not sure how to track down their source. Any suggestions? - --- A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has expired. The message was not delivered to the following addresses: The message that caused this notification was: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Subject: Undeliverable: Lowest mortgage rates on the web! - --- A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has expired. The message was not delivered to the following addresses: The message that caused this notification was: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Subject: Undeliverable: Congrats! You're a Winner! - --- A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has expired. The message was not delivered to the following addresses: The message that caused this notification was: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Subject: Undeliverable: Never pay another phone bill again _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:
RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)
Good point Mr. East. I beleive you are correct there. Regards Mr Louis Joyce Computer Support Analyst Network Administrator BT Ignite eSolutions -Original Message- From: East, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 16 November 2001 16:04 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster) Sorry Mr. Joyce, I don't agree. Commercial email (unsolicited or not) is coming into his domain, but he is not relaying. Instead, the spammers are sending to invalid addresses within his domain and using invalid (or unresolvable) return addresses. So: 1) Spam comes in. 2) Exchange tries to bounce an NDR back to the return address. 3) The attempt fails after repeated attempts. 4) Exchange generates the message showing that the NDR could not be delivered to the return address in the message. Of course, you could try to contact the senders, but why would they care? Best thing to do is ignore the messages or blackhole the senders. -- be - MOS Earth Army Recruiting Center: What are you, chicken? Buk buk buk! -Original Message- From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:52 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster) You're being spammed by the looks of things, unless you are intentionally sending out emails with the subject lines you are describing below. You need to turn relaying off or configure it correctly. Regards Mr Louis Joyce Computer Support Analyst Network Administrator BT Ignite eSolutions -Original Message- From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 16 November 2001 15:56 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster) Ok. I've read both Faqs. Now what? I did not read anything that tells me how to track down the source of the message. There does not appear to be any information to go by. Can I track by Message ID? How do I get the message ID from a Postmaster notification? How do I determine the source? -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:39 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster) hehe. And actually it should be 2821 ,( Section 6.1 I believe) -Original Message- From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:42 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster) Doh.. Sorry. 3.39 Q: Messages are being sent from my site with an empty originator, A: That is a system generated message, either an NDR or a delivery receipt. See RFC-821, section 3.6 for the reasoning behind this. -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:31 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster) FAQ -Original Message- From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:38 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster) I've started getting some strange Outbound messages to Postmaster. Please take a look. It appears that these messages are originating from the inside but I am not sure how to track down their source. Any suggestions? --- A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has expired. The message was not delivered to the following addresses: The message that caused this notification was: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Subject: Undeliverable: Lowest mortgage rates on the web! --- A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has expired. The message was not delivered to the following addresses: The message that caused this notification was: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Subject: Undeliverable: Congrats! You're a Winner! --- A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has expired. The message was not delivered to the following addresses: The message that caused this notification was: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Subject: Undeliverable: Never pay another phone bill again _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL
RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)
The source was generated by your server in response to a message that it received from somwhere, with the Reply-To address of [EMAIL PROTECTED], to which your server cannot complete delivery of the NDR. Elementary, my dear Watson. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE MCT Senior Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems Atlanta, GA http://www.peregrine.com -Original Message- From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:56 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster) Ok. I've read both Faqs. Now what? I did not read anything that tells me how to track down the source of the message. There does not appear to be any information to go by. Can I track by Message ID? How do I get the message ID from a Postmaster notification? How do I determine the source? -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:39 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster) hehe. And actually it should be 2821 ,( Section 6.1 I believe) -Original Message- From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:42 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster) Doh.. Sorry. 3.39 Q: Messages are being sent from my site with an empty originator, A: That is a system generated message, either an NDR or a delivery receipt. See RFC-821, section 3.6 for the reasoning behind this. -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:31 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster) FAQ -Original Message- From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:38 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster) I've started getting some strange Outbound messages to Postmaster. Please take a look. It appears that these messages are originating from the inside but I am not sure how to track down their source. Any suggestions? --- A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has expired. The message was not delivered to the following addresses: The message that caused this notification was: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Subject: Undeliverable: Lowest mortgage rates on the web! --- A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has expired. The message was not delivered to the following addresses: The message that caused this notification was: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Subject: Undeliverable: Congrats! You're a Winner! --- A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has expired. The message was not delivered to the following addresses: The message that caused this notification was: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Subject: Undeliverable: Never pay another phone bill again _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Haiku Friday
I don't email much But thought I'd give it a try Wife's birthday tonight! -Original Message- From: Barry Patterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:37 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Haiku Friday Thank God it's Friday Tacos for dinner tonight Have a nice weekend -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Denis Baldwin Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:29 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Haiku Friday Thank God this is done New Switch is finally installed Exchange still running Denis _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)
Dr. Watson? ;) -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 11:11 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster) The source was generated by your server in response to a message that it received from somwhere, with the Reply-To address of [EMAIL PROTECTED], to which your server cannot complete delivery of the NDR. Elementary, my dear Watson. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE MCT Senior Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems Atlanta, GA http://www.peregrine.com -Original Message- From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:56 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster) Ok. I've read both Faqs. Now what? I did not read anything that tells me how to track down the source of the message. There does not appear to be any information to go by. Can I track by Message ID? How do I get the message ID from a Postmaster notification? How do I determine the source? -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:39 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster) hehe. And actually it should be 2821 ,( Section 6.1 I believe) -Original Message- From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:42 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster) Doh.. Sorry. 3.39 Q: Messages are being sent from my site with an empty originator, A: That is a system generated message, either an NDR or a delivery receipt. See RFC-821, section 3.6 for the reasoning behind this. -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:31 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster) FAQ -Original Message- From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:38 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster) I've started getting some strange Outbound messages to Postmaster. Please take a look. It appears that these messages are originating from the inside but I am not sure how to track down their source. Any suggestions? --- A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has expired. The message was not delivered to the following addresses: The message that caused this notification was: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Subject: Undeliverable: Lowest mortgage rates on the web! --- A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has expired. The message was not delivered to the following addresses: The message that caused this notification was: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Subject: Undeliverable: Congrats! You're a Winner! --- A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has expired. The message was not delivered to the following addresses: The message that caused this notification was: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Subject: Undeliverable: Never pay another phone bill again _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)
I just added them to my message filter. -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:11 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster) The source was generated by your server in response to a message that it received from somwhere, with the Reply-To address of [EMAIL PROTECTED], to which your server cannot complete delivery of the NDR. Elementary, my dear Watson. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE MCT Senior Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems Atlanta, GA http://www.peregrine.com -Original Message- From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:56 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster) Ok. I've read both Faqs. Now what? I did not read anything that tells me how to track down the source of the message. There does not appear to be any information to go by. Can I track by Message ID? How do I get the message ID from a Postmaster notification? How do I determine the source? -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:39 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster) hehe. And actually it should be 2821 ,( Section 6.1 I believe) -Original Message- From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:42 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster) Doh.. Sorry. 3.39 Q: Messages are being sent from my site with an empty originator, A: That is a system generated message, either an NDR or a delivery receipt. See RFC-821, section 3.6 for the reasoning behind this. -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:31 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster) FAQ -Original Message- From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:38 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster) I've started getting some strange Outbound messages to Postmaster. Please take a look. It appears that these messages are originating from the inside but I am not sure how to track down their source. Any suggestions? --- A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has expired. The message was not delivered to the following addresses: The message that caused this notification was: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Subject: Undeliverable: Lowest mortgage rates on the web! --- A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has expired. The message was not delivered to the following addresses: The message that caused this notification was: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Subject: Undeliverable: Congrats! You're a Winner! --- A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has expired. The message was not delivered to the following addresses: The message that caused this notification was: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Subject: Undeliverable: Never pay another phone bill again _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)
That will help today. Tomorrow, 12 new ones will spring up in their place. It's a losing battle, dude. Look away; nothing to see here. -Original Message- From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:29 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster) I just added them to my message filter. -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:11 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster) The source was generated by your server in response to a message that it received from somwhere, with the Reply-To address of [EMAIL PROTECTED], to which your server cannot complete delivery of the NDR. Elementary, my dear Watson. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE MCT Senior Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems Atlanta, GA http://www.peregrine.com -Original Message- From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:56 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster) Ok. I've read both Faqs. Now what? I did not read anything that tells me how to track down the source of the message. There does not appear to be any information to go by. Can I track by Message ID? How do I get the message ID from a Postmaster notification? How do I determine the source? -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:39 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster) hehe. And actually it should be 2821 ,( Section 6.1 I believe) -Original Message- From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:42 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster) Doh.. Sorry. 3.39 Q: Messages are being sent from my site with an empty originator, A: That is a system generated message, either an NDR or a delivery receipt. See RFC-821, section 3.6 for the reasoning behind this. -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:31 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster) FAQ -Original Message- From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:38 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster) I've started getting some strange Outbound messages to Postmaster. Please take a look. It appears that these messages are originating from the inside but I am not sure how to track down their source. Any suggestions? --- A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has expired. The message was not delivered to the following addresses: The message that caused this notification was: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Subject: Undeliverable: Lowest mortgage rates on the web! --- A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has expired. The message was not delivered to the following addresses: The message that caused this notification was: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Subject: Undeliverable: Congrats! You're a Winner! --- A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has expired. The message was not delivered to the following addresses: The message that caused this notification was: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Subject: Undeliverable: Never pay another phone bill again _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:
RE: Haiku Friday
er Tony, you may want to read up on the format of haiku ... -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:57 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Haiku Friday HP said parts on backorder. Feeling blue Can't do backups :o( Time for some MGD's in double digits _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Haiku Friday
Domain names changing The new parents impose rules Am I in high school? -Original Message- From: Denis Baldwin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:29 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Haiku Friday Thank God this is done New Switch is finally installed Exchange still running Denis _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Replacement for OWA
Good morning to you all: Currently the company I work for is looking at putting up a second OWA server. As part of our due diligence in making sure that we have the most betta solution, I'm looking for products that have the same functionality as OWA and that will interface with Exchange. For example, Horde/IMP could replace OWA as the interface to a user's Exchange mail. Anyone here have a suggestion for another product? TIA. John Matteson; Exchange Manager Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards (404) 239 - 2981 With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. - RFC 1925 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Ah coffee!
Gawds, look for a Haiku version of Beowulf. John Matteson; Exchange Manager Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards (404) 239 - 2981 With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. - RFC 1925 -Original Message- From: Barry Patterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:58 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Ah coffee! Just chugged down about 16oz after it had cooled a good bit. Hello World! Barry _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Haiku Friday
Haiku is my life Writing them for a living Gives me inner strength -Original Message- From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 11:29 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Haiku Friday Domain names changing The new parents impose rules Am I in high school? -Original Message- From: Denis Baldwin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:29 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Haiku Friday Thank God this is done New Switch is finally installed Exchange still running Denis _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Haiku Friday
To get paid to write the haiku is amazing what's your per word rate? -- Drew Visit http://www.drewncapris.net! Go! Go there now! I think that technologies are morally neutral until we apply them. It's only when we use them for good or for evil that they become good or evil. William Gibson -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Vivino, David Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:40 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Haiku Friday Haiku is my life Writing them for a living Gives me inner strength -Original Message- From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 11:29 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Haiku Friday Domain names changing The new parents impose rules Am I in high school? -Original Message- From: Denis Baldwin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:29 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Haiku Friday Thank God this is done New Switch is finally installed Exchange still running Denis _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
New Mail Notification
Hi Everyone, 2 servers (one NT4 sp6a, one W2k sp2)in same site, both Ex5.5 sp4. CLients are OL2000 I have been moving mailboxes (using the Move Mailbox tool in the Exchange Admin program) from the older (NT4) server to the newer (W2k) machine without any problems, beyond having to once or twice recreate a users profile. Earlier this week, I moved about 10 mailboxes, all belonging to the users in a remote office. At that time, they stopped receiving notified of the arrival of new mail. To see new mail, they have to do something to refresh OL - select another folder, close and reopen etc. Yesterday I had four of them delete and recreate new profiles. After that, two of them started to get notifications, but two didn't. As of this morning, one of the users thet was working correctly yesterday, is failing again. From my machine (I'm in the Main office) I can logon to her mailbox, send a message, and get notified of its' arrival. So, I don't think it has anything to do with a server function. Looking in the Registry, thought I might find some profile info that isn't deleted when you remove a proflie. But it looks like that is all kept in one location - Hkey_Users/Default/Software/Microsoft/WindowsMessagingSubsystem/Profiles, with each profile in its' own folder. And that gets deleted along with the profile. Oh yeah, the branch office is connected over a Frame relay and no changes made to anything on that side recently. It looks like a client-side issue, but I'm missing something. I appreciate would any help. Thanks, Jerry _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)
Doesn't indicate anything having to do with relaying. Most likely, it was spam addressed to invalid addresses at your domain, and the reply-to address is invalid as well. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE MCT Senior Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems Atlanta, GA http://www.peregrine.com -Original Message- From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 11:09 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster) RFC821 then it must construct an undeliverable mail notification message and send it to the originator of the undeliverable mail (as indicated by the reverse-path). This would seem to indicate relaying? However, I have my system setup to NOT relay. I've even tested (per the faq)? According to the telnet test I'm good-to-go? Am I missing something? -Original Message- From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:52 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster) You're being spammed by the looks of things, unless you are intentionally sending out emails with the subject lines you are describing below. You need to turn relaying off or configure it correctly. Regards Mr Louis Joyce Computer Support Analyst Network Administrator BT Ignite eSolutions -Original Message- From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 16 November 2001 15:56 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster) Ok. I've read both Faqs. Now what? I did not read anything that tells me how to track down the source of the message. There does not appear to be any information to go by. Can I track by Message ID? How do I get the message ID from a Postmaster notification? How do I determine the source? -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:39 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster) hehe. And actually it should be 2821 ,( Section 6.1 I believe) -Original Message- From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:42 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster) Doh.. Sorry. 3.39 Q: Messages are being sent from my site with an empty originator, A: That is a system generated message, either an NDR or a delivery receipt. See RFC-821, section 3.6 for the reasoning behind this. -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:31 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster) FAQ -Original Message- From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:38 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster) I've started getting some strange Outbound messages to Postmaster. Please take a look. It appears that these messages are originating from the inside but I am not sure how to track down their source. Any suggestions? --- A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has expired. The message was not delivered to the following addresses: The message that caused this notification was: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Subject: Undeliverable: Lowest mortgage rates on the web! --- A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has expired. The message was not delivered to the following addresses: The message that caused this notification was: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Subject: Undeliverable: Congrats! You're a Winner! --- A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has expired. The message was not delivered to the following addresses: The message that caused this notification was: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Subject: Undeliverable: Never pay another phone bill again _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ:
RE: Replacement for OWA
It all depends on what functionality you want. There are at least a few front ends available for IMAP servers that would do basic mail handling, but OWA is the only one that would cut the groupware features. TWIG seems pretty cool from an IMAP viewer. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE MCT Senior Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems Atlanta, GA http://www.peregrine.com -Original Message- From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 11:37 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Replacement for OWA Good morning to you all: Currently the company I work for is looking at putting up a second OWA server. As part of our due diligence in making sure that we have the most betta solution, I'm looking for products that have the same functionality as OWA and that will interface with Exchange. For example, Horde/IMP could replace OWA as the interface to a user's Exchange mail. Anyone here have a suggestion for another product? TIA. John Matteson; Exchange Manager Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards (404) 239 - 2981 With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. - RFC 1925 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
a 2nd antivirus
This is part of a bigger question, and I'm not sure if I agree with the means behind it but I'll ask anyway. Recently my IT manager and some of the other guys on the team have taken a deeper interest in AV, almost to the point of hiring a guy that does AV and only AV. They are also talking about having a 2nd AV in the building, say both Symantec(we currently use) and Mcafee or whatever. They seem to think between having 2 products would greater increase the ability to detect virus threats, whereas I feel that by the time one of these systems detects it it most likely has already infiltrated and done the damage. They then asked me about running 2 AV's on the Exchange server. With all the blocking I do I would think a 2nd product would not help much, not to mention the overhead and incompatibility issues a 2nd AV would cause on the Exchange server. I recommended they look at a IDS system or something for the firewall. Thoughts? e- _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Haiku Friday
Can I charge per read If so you all owe me lots Show me the money! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Drewski Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 11:06 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Haiku Friday To get paid to write the haiku is amazing what's your per word rate? -- Drew Visit http://www.drewncapris.net! Go! Go there now! I think that technologies are morally neutral until we apply them. It's only when we use them for good or for evil that they become good or evil. William Gibson -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Vivino, David Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:40 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Haiku Friday Haiku is my life Writing them for a living Gives me inner strength -Original Message- From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 11:29 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Haiku Friday Domain names changing The new parents impose rules Am I in high school? -Original Message- From: Denis Baldwin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:29 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Haiku Friday Thank God this is done New Switch is finally installed Exchange still running Denis _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: a 2nd antivirus
Antigen allows for up to 4 different AV engines to scan everythingCA, Sophos, and I think Mcafee and Symantec... Bill Lambert Endoxy Healthcare 847-941-9206 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 11:37 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: a 2nd antivirus This is part of a bigger question, and I'm not sure if I agree with the means behind it but I'll ask anyway. Recently my IT manager and some of the other guys on the team have taken a deeper interest in AV, almost to the point of hiring a guy that does AV and only AV. They are also talking about having a 2nd AV in the building, say both Symantec(we currently use) and Mcafee or whatever. They seem to think between having 2 products would greater increase the ability to detect virus threats, whereas I feel that by the time one of these systems detects it it most likely has already infiltrated and done the damage. They then asked me about running 2 AV's on the Exchange server. With all the blocking I do I would think a 2nd product would not help much, not to mention the overhead and incompatibility issues a 2nd AV would cause on the Exchange server. I recommended they look at a IDS system or something for the firewall. Thoughts? e- _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: New Mail Notification
The old standby: http://www.mail-resources.com/koans/51899.htm -Original Message- From: Bueffel, Scott M - CNF [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 12:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Mail Notification This has been discussed ad nauseum in the past. Search the archives on this because it has to do with UDP packets being sent from the server to the client. -Original Message- From: JConway [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:10 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: New Mail Notification Hi Everyone, 2 servers (one NT4 sp6a, one W2k sp2)in same site, both Ex5.5 sp4. CLients are OL2000 I have been moving mailboxes (using the Move Mailbox tool in the Exchange Admin program) from the older (NT4) server to the newer (W2k) machine without any problems, beyond having to once or twice recreate a users profile. Earlier this week, I moved about 10 mailboxes, all belonging to the users in a remote office. At that time, they stopped receiving notified of the arrival of new mail. To see new mail, they have to do something to refresh OL - select another folder, close and reopen etc. Yesterday I had four of them delete and recreate new profiles. After that, two of them started to get notifications, but two didn't. As of this morning, one of the users thet was working correctly yesterday, is failing again. From my machine (I'm in the Main office) I can logon to her mailbox, send a message, and get notified of its' arrival. So, I don't think it has anything to do with a server function. Looking in the Registry, thought I might find some profile info that isn't deleted when you remove a proflie. But it looks like that is all kept in one location - Hkey_Users/Default/Software/Microsoft/WindowsMessagingSubsystem/Profiles, with each profile in its' own folder. And that gets deleted along with the profile. Oh yeah, the branch office is connected over a Frame relay and no changes made to anything on that side recently. It looks like a client-side issue, but I'm missing something. I appreciate would any help. Thanks, Jerry _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: New Mail Notification
Will that koan tell Ben, Liz and me what the plural of nauseum is? -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Friday, November 16, 2001 11:39 AM Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List Conversation: New Mail Notification Subject: RE: New Mail Notification The old standby: http://www.mail-resources.com/koans/51899.htm -Original Message- From: Bueffel, Scott M - CNF [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 12:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Mail Notification This has been discussed ad nauseum in the past. Search the archives on this because it has to do with UDP packets being sent from the server to the client. -Original Message- From: JConway [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:10 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: New Mail Notification Hi Everyone, 2 servers (one NT4 sp6a, one W2k sp2)in same site, both Ex5.5 sp4. CLients are OL2000 I have been moving mailboxes (using the Move Mailbox tool in the Exchange Admin program) from the older (NT4) server to the newer (W2k) machine without any problems, beyond having to once or twice recreate a users profile. Earlier this week, I moved about 10 mailboxes, all belonging to the users in a remote office. At that time, they stopped receiving notified of the arrival of new mail. To see new mail, they have to do something to refresh OL - select another folder, close and reopen etc. Yesterday I had four of them delete and recreate new profiles. After that, two of them started to get notifications, but two didn't. As of this morning, one of the users thet was working correctly yesterday, is failing again. From my machine (I'm in the Main office) I can logon to her mailbox, send a message, and get notified of its' arrival. So, I don't think it has anything to do with a server function. Looking in the Registry, thought I might find some profile info that isn't deleted when you remove a proflie. But it looks like that is all kept in one location - Hkey_Users/Default/Software/Microsoft/WindowsMessagingSubsystem/Profiles , with each profile in its' own folder. And that gets deleted along with the profile. Oh yeah, the branch office is connected over a Frame relay and no changes made to anything on that side recently. It looks like a client-side issue, but I'm missing something. I appreciate would any help. Thanks, Jerry _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: New Mail Notification
I think its Nixon -Original Message- From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 12:50 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Mail Notification Will that koan tell Ben, Liz and me what the plural of nauseum is? -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Friday, November 16, 2001 11:39 AM Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List Conversation: New Mail Notification Subject: RE: New Mail Notification The old standby: http://www.mail-resources.com/koans/51899.htm -Original Message- From: Bueffel, Scott M - CNF [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 12:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Mail Notification This has been discussed ad nauseum in the past. Search the archives on this because it has to do with UDP packets being sent from the server to the client. -Original Message- From: JConway [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:10 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: New Mail Notification Hi Everyone, 2 servers (one NT4 sp6a, one W2k sp2)in same site, both Ex5.5 sp4. CLients are OL2000 I have been moving mailboxes (using the Move Mailbox tool in the Exchange Admin program) from the older (NT4) server to the newer (W2k) machine without any problems, beyond having to once or twice recreate a users profile. Earlier this week, I moved about 10 mailboxes, all belonging to the users in a remote office. At that time, they stopped receiving notified of the arrival of new mail. To see new mail, they have to do something to refresh OL - select another folder, close and reopen etc. Yesterday I had four of them delete and recreate new profiles. After that, two of them started to get notifications, but two didn't. As of this morning, one of the users thet was working correctly yesterday, is failing again. From my machine (I'm in the Main office) I can logon to her mailbox, send a message, and get notified of its' arrival. So, I don't think it has anything to do with a server function. Looking in the Registry, thought I might find some profile info that isn't deleted when you remove a proflie. But it looks like that is all kept in one location - Hkey_Users/Default/Software/Microsoft/WindowsMessagingSubsystem/Profiles , with each profile in its' own folder. And that gets deleted along with the profile. Oh yeah, the branch office is connected over a Frame relay and no changes made to anything on that side recently. It looks like a client-side issue, but I'm missing something. I appreciate would any help. Thanks, Jerry _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
OT 'nother Latin Lesson
'nother Latin lesson: nausea (sing.), nauseae (plu.) cos I never listen to beggin' Am off to the pub now for drinkiepoos (plu.) Have a good wk-end all! E. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: New Mail Notification Will that koan tell Ben, Liz and me what the plural of nauseum is? -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Subject: RE: New Mail Notification The old standby: http://www.mail-resources.com/koans/51899.htm -Original Message- From: Bueffel, Scott M - CNF [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Subject: RE: New Mail Notification This has been discussed ad nauseum in the past. Search the archives on this because it has to do with UDP packets being sent from the server to the client. -Original Message- From: JConway [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Subject: New Mail Notification Hi Everyone, 2 servers (one NT4 sp6a, one W2k sp2)in same site, both Ex5.5 sp4. CLients are OL2000 I have been moving mailboxes (using the Move Mailbox tool in the Exchange Admin program) from the older (NT4) server to the newer (W2k) machine without any problems, beyond having to once or twice recreate a users profile. Earlier this week, I moved about 10 mailboxes, all belonging to the users in a remote office. At that time, they stopped receiving notified of the arrival of new mail. To see new mail, they have to do something to refresh OL - select another folder, close and reopen etc. Yesterday I had four of them delete and recreate new profiles. After that, two of them started to get notifications, but two didn't. As of this morning, one of the users thet was working correctly yesterday, is failing again. From my machine (I'm in the Main office) I can logon to her mailbox, send a message, and get notified of its' arrival. So, I don't think it has anything to do with a server function. Looking in the Registry, thought I might find some profile info that isn't deleted when you remove a proflie. But it looks like that is all kept in one location - Hkey_Users/Default/Software/Microsoft/WindowsMessagingSubsystem/Profiles , with each profile in its' own folder. And that gets deleted along with the profile. Oh yeah, the branch office is connected over a Frame relay and no changes made to anything on that side recently. It looks like a client-side issue, but I'm missing something. I appreciate would any help. Thanks, Jerry _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Haiku Frydae
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RE: Haiku Friday
You read my haiku So as far as I'm concerned We are now even -Original Message- From: Barry Patterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 12:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Haiku Friday Can I charge per read If so you all owe me lots Show me the money! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Drewski Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 11:06 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Haiku Friday To get paid to write the haiku is amazing what's your per word rate? -- Drew Visit http://www.drewncapris.net! Go! Go there now! I think that technologies are morally neutral until we apply them. It's only when we use them for good or for evil that they become good or evil. William Gibson -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Vivino, David Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:40 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Haiku Friday Haiku is my life Writing them for a living Gives me inner strength -Original Message- From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 11:29 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Haiku Friday Domain names changing The new parents impose rules Am I in high school? -Original Message- From: Denis Baldwin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:29 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Haiku Friday Thank God this is done New Switch is finally installed Exchange still running Denis _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster)
See http://www.slipstick.com/exs/relay.htm To prevent SMTP relaying with Microsoft Exchange Server Tim Tullis Director, MIS Greater Lexington Chamber of Commerce www.lexchamber.com 859-226-1625 -Original Message- From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:52 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster) You're being spammed by the looks of things, unless you are intentionally sending out emails with the subject lines you are describing below. You need to turn relaying off or configure it correctly. Regards Mr Louis Joyce Computer Support Analyst Network Administrator BT Ignite eSolutions -Original Message- From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 16 November 2001 15:56 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster) Ok. I've read both Faqs. Now what? I did not read anything that tells me how to track down the source of the message. There does not appear to be any information to go by. Can I track by Message ID? How do I get the message ID from a Postmaster notification? How do I determine the source? -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:39 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster) hehe. And actually it should be 2821 ,( Section 6.1 I believe) -Original Message- From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:42 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster) Doh.. Sorry. 3.39 Q: Messages are being sent from my site with an empty originator, A: That is a system generated message, either an NDR or a delivery receipt. See RFC-821, section 3.6 for the reasoning behind this. -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:31 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster) FAQ -Original Message- From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:38 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Strange Outbound Messages (Postmaster) I've started getting some strange Outbound messages to Postmaster. Please take a look. It appears that these messages are originating from the inside but I am not sure how to track down their source. Any suggestions? --- A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has expired. The message was not delivered to the following addresses: The message that caused this notification was: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Subject: Undeliverable: Lowest mortgage rates on the web! --- A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has expired. The message was not delivered to the following addresses: The message that caused this notification was: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Subject: Undeliverable: Congrats! You're a Winner! --- A mail message was not sent because the maximum time for delivery has expired. The message was not delivered to the following addresses: The message that caused this notification was: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Subject: Undeliverable: Never pay another phone bill again _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ:
RE: Am I in need of a serious db defrag?
Nav for Exchange in VAPI mode (or mixed with Mapi) is not actually causing a corruption but is rather causing a latency with how it scans mail. There is a setting to scan mail in the background which will scan all messages in advance. If you turn that on and allow an hour per GB of Information Store all messages currently in the store will be scanned and then the deleting issue will be greatly minimized. All this being said, here at Quinnipiac University with 10,000 users and a high mail traffic we have been reduced to only using MAPI. The same error you see with deleting will also happen in synchronization. Hope that helps. Matthew Romeo Systems Programmer/Analyst E-Mail Administrator Quinnipiac University (203) 582-8990 E-Mail mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:14 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Am I in need of a serious db defrag? I'd give PSS a call. -Original Message- From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:19 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Am I in need of a serious db defrag? Good points, I could turn it off but I am curious is the nav causing a corruption or is the nav just causing the error and there is no real corruption? -Original Message- From: Quiram, Nadia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 6:21 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Am I in need of a serious db defrag? Experienced this the last week or so here. Turned off mixed mode and all is well. I've also seen this error running Trend's Scanmail in AVAPI mode. -Original Message- From: Bernadette Gerber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 5:26 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Am I in need of a serious db defrag? Eric-- Just a thought, but are you running NAV for Exchange in mixed mode? There's a Knowledgebase article on Symnantec's site about this one. --Bernadette Gerber/NT and Exchange Administrator/ESRI Redlands -Original Message- From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 9:07 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Am I in need of a serious db defrag? Hi Starting to get users who can't delete emails that have attachments in them or otherwise large messages, error returned is 'The item could not be deleted. It was either moved or already deleted, or access was denied'. Checked both the server event log and my own but found nothing related to this. Am I looking at some fragmentation problems? Client Outlook 2000 Exchange 5.5 sp4hot on Nt4 sp6 Single site in single domain E- _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange Mail Storage Management
Please respond if you have experience with any e-mail management software that assists in managing the user mail store size with the added capibility of message archiving after a specified time frame, size, etc. We are interested reviewing any products that can assit in automating the management of the Exchange server storage. Any feedback you could provide would be gladly accepted. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Replacement for OWA
www.wirelessknowledge.com -Original Message- From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 8:37 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Replacement for OWA Good morning to you all: Currently the company I work for is looking at putting up a second OWA server. As part of our due diligence in making sure that we have the most betta solution, I'm looking for products that have the same functionality as OWA and that will interface with Exchange. For example, Horde/IMP could replace OWA as the interface to a user's Exchange mail. Anyone here have a suggestion for another product? TIA. John Matteson; Exchange Manager Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards (404) 239 - 2981 With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. - RFC 1925 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ban Outlook?
Anyone care to comment? http://techupdate.zdnet.com/techupdate/stories/main/0,14179,2814683,00.html _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: New Mail Notification
Well, first I should have spelled it correctly: ad nauseam -Original Message- From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:50 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Mail Notification Will that koan tell Ben, Liz and me what the plural of nauseum is? -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Friday, November 16, 2001 11:39 AM Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List Conversation: New Mail Notification Subject: RE: New Mail Notification The old standby: http://www.mail-resources.com/koans/51899.htm -Original Message- From: Bueffel, Scott M - CNF [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 12:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Mail Notification This has been discussed ad nauseum in the past. Search the archives on this because it has to do with UDP packets being sent from the server to the client. -Original Message- From: JConway [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:10 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: New Mail Notification Hi Everyone, 2 servers (one NT4 sp6a, one W2k sp2)in same site, both Ex5.5 sp4. CLients are OL2000 I have been moving mailboxes (using the Move Mailbox tool in the Exchange Admin program) from the older (NT4) server to the newer (W2k) machine without any problems, beyond having to once or twice recreate a users profile. Earlier this week, I moved about 10 mailboxes, all belonging to the users in a remote office. At that time, they stopped receiving notified of the arrival of new mail. To see new mail, they have to do something to refresh OL - select another folder, close and reopen etc. Yesterday I had four of them delete and recreate new profiles. After that, two of them started to get notifications, but two didn't. As of this morning, one of the users thet was working correctly yesterday, is failing again. From my machine (I'm in the Main office) I can logon to her mailbox, send a message, and get notified of its' arrival. So, I don't think it has anything to do with a server function. Looking in the Registry, thought I might find some profile info that isn't deleted when you remove a proflie. But it looks like that is all kept in one location - Hkey_Users/Default/Software/Microsoft/WindowsMessagingSubsystem/Profiles , with each profile in its' own folder. And that gets deleted along with the profile. Oh yeah, the branch office is connected over a Frame relay and no changes made to anything on that side recently. It looks like a client-side issue, but I'm missing something. I appreciate would any help. Thanks, Jerry _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: a 2nd antivirus
I don't think you would want (nor would it work to have) two AV products on the Exchange servers. The approach we use is to have a mail relay running Trend's InterScan VirusWall scanning everything between the Internet and Exchange. Works like a dream... -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE MCT Senior Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems Atlanta, GA http://www.peregrine.com -Original Message- From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 12:37 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: a 2nd antivirus This is part of a bigger question, and I'm not sure if I agree with the means behind it but I'll ask anyway. Recently my IT manager and some of the other guys on the team have taken a deeper interest in AV, almost to the point of hiring a guy that does AV and only AV. They are also talking about having a 2nd AV in the building, say both Symantec(we currently use) and Mcafee or whatever. They seem to think between having 2 products would greater increase the ability to detect virus threats, whereas I feel that by the time one of these systems detects it it most likely has already infiltrated and done the damage. They then asked me about running 2 AV's on the Exchange server. With all the blocking I do I would think a 2nd product would not help much, not to mention the overhead and incompatibility issues a 2nd AV would cause on the Exchange server. I recommended they look at a IDS system or something for the firewall. Thoughts? e- _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Exchange Mail Storage Management
Microsoft Exchange Server Mailbox Manager (Add-In). Located somewhere on the CD Rom. -Original Message- From: Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:53 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Exchange Mail Storage Management Please respond if you have experience with any e-mail management software that assists in managing the user mail store size with the added capibility of message archiving after a specified time frame, size, etc. We are interested reviewing any products that can assit in automating the management of the Exchange server storage. Any feedback you could provide would be gladly accepted. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Ban Outlook?
I read it a while ago. Microsoft bashing mixed with some Admin 101 level advice about keeping security patches up to date and some other things that should have been taken care of when Outlook was deployed on an organization level. A pathetic attempt to convince admins to move backward to mail only POP3/IMAP4 clients. John Matteson; Exchange Manager Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards (404) 239 - 2981 With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. - RFC 1925 -Original Message- From: Steve Dallas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 11:36 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Ban Outlook? Anyone care to comment? http://techupdate.zdnet.com/techupdate/stories/main/0,14179,2814683,00.html _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: a 2nd antivirus
I wouldn't want to put two different AV all on the Exchange server. I'd prefer the setup where you use one AV at the SMTP gateway, and another one on Exchange box. If you are really paranoid, you can put a third AV for your desktops... Andrew, MCSE (NT W2K) + CCNA -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:34 AM Posted To: NewsgroupDiscussion Conversation: a 2nd antivirus Subject: RE: a 2nd antivirus I use two separate products. Antigen (with the Norman Engine) on the mail server and Symantec on the desktops/servers. Additionally Antigen will allow you to use multiple engines. I like the idea of separate products myself. -Original Message- From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 12:37 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: a 2nd antivirus This is part of a bigger question, and I'm not sure if I agree with the means behind it but I'll ask anyway. Recently my IT manager and some of the other guys on the team have taken a deeper interest in AV, almost to the point of hiring a guy that does AV and only AV. They are also talking about having a 2nd AV in the building, say both Symantec(we currently use) and Mcafee or whatever. They seem to think between having 2 products would greater increase the ability to detect virus threats, whereas I feel that by the time one of these systems detects it it most likely has already infiltrated and done the damage. They then asked me about running 2 AV's on the Exchange server. With all the blocking I do I would think a 2nd product would not help much, not to mention the overhead and incompatibility issues a 2nd AV would cause on the Exchange server. I recommended they look at a IDS system or something for the firewall. Thoughts? e- _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Exchange Mail Storage Management
I believe Veritas has an add on to their Exchange Backup component that will perfom some of these tasks. -Original Message- From: Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:53 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Exchange Mail Storage Management Please respond if you have experience with any e-mail management software that assists in managing the user mail store size with the added capibility of message archiving after a specified time frame, size, etc. We are interested reviewing any products that can assit in automating the management of the Exchange server storage. Any feedback you could provide would be gladly accepted. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: a 2nd antivirus
I was referring to two separate products in-house, not on the Exch Server. -Original Message- From: Andrew Chan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 1:36 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: a 2nd antivirus I wouldn't want to put two different AV all on the Exchange server. I'd prefer the setup where you use one AV at the SMTP gateway, and another one on Exchange box. If you are really paranoid, you can put a third AV for your desktops... Andrew, MCSE (NT W2K) + CCNA -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:34 AM Posted To: NewsgroupDiscussion Conversation: a 2nd antivirus Subject: RE: a 2nd antivirus I use two separate products. Antigen (with the Norman Engine) on the mail server and Symantec on the desktops/servers. Additionally Antigen will allow you to use multiple engines. I like the idea of separate products myself. -Original Message- From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 12:37 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: a 2nd antivirus This is part of a bigger question, and I'm not sure if I agree with the means behind it but I'll ask anyway. Recently my IT manager and some of the other guys on the team have taken a deeper interest in AV, almost to the point of hiring a guy that does AV and only AV. They are also talking about having a 2nd AV in the building, say both Symantec(we currently use) and Mcafee or whatever. They seem to think between having 2 products would greater increase the ability to detect virus threats, whereas I feel that by the time one of these systems detects it it most likely has already infiltrated and done the damage. They then asked me about running 2 AV's on the Exchange server. With all the blocking I do I would think a 2nd product would not help much, not to mention the overhead and incompatibility issues a 2nd AV would cause on the Exchange server. I recommended they look at a IDS system or something for the firewall. Thoughts? e- _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Ban Outlook?
This has been talked about before. Whatever is the dominant application will see the dominant hacks, security holes and have viruses written just for them. If your users are satisfied with the free products that are out then use them. We used pegasus mail back in the early 90's... -Original Message- From: Steve Dallas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 11:36 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Ban Outlook? Anyone care to comment? http://techupdate.zdnet.com/techupdate/stories/main/0,14179,2814683,00.html _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: a 2nd antivirus
Two AV is good One for servers, one at desk This haiku not good. Having two will increase your chances of detection -- I like having one at the server side and different product at the desktop. Anything that slips past the server product will hopefully be caught by the desktop one. I wouldn't install two AV products on a single Exchange server, though. You might look into running multiple engines with Antigen or something as others have suggested. Security is a process, not a product. -Ben- Ben M. Schorr, MVP-Outlook, CNA, MCPx3 Director of Information Services Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert http://www.hawaiilawyer.com -Original Message- From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 7:37 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: a 2nd antivirus This is part of a bigger question, and I'm not sure if I agree with the means behind it but I'll ask anyway. Recently my IT manager and some of the other guys on the team have taken a deeper interest in AV, almost to the point of hiring a guy that does AV and only AV. They are also talking about having a 2nd AV in the building, say both Symantec(we currently use) and Mcafee or whatever. They seem to think between having 2 products would greater increase the ability to detect virus threats, whereas I feel that by the time one of these systems detects it it most likely has already infiltrated and done the damage. They then asked me about running 2 AV's on the Exchange server. With all the blocking I do I would think a 2nd product would not help much, not to mention the overhead and incompatibility issues a 2nd AV would cause on the Exchange server. I recommended they look at a IDS system or something for the firewall. Thoughts? e- _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Ban Outlook?
Better than Dave Wilson, in the L.A. Times, who yesterday wrote a fairly ignorant piece advocating the same thing. At least this guy acknowledes that Outlook is for more than, to use Mr. Wilson's terminology, e-mail browsing. Wilson suggests replacing it with Poco, Becky, Allegro, Pegasus or even Eudora...then later admits that the L.A. Times itself is about to standardize on Outlook. sigh Maybe those who write about the technology should understand it? -Ben- Ben M. Schorr, MVP-Outlook, CNA, MCPx3 Director of Information Services Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert http://www.hawaiilawyer.com -Original Message- From: Steve Dallas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 6:36 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Ban Outlook? Anyone care to comment? http://techupdate.zdnet.com/techupdate/stories/main/0,14179,28 14683,00.html _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Haiku Friday
Bankers it is true Hear money squeal as it leaves Their locked-down wallet -Original Message- From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 11:43 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Haiku Friday You work for a bank What did you really expect? Candy and flowers? -Original Message- From: Hunter, Lori [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 11:29 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Haiku Friday Domain names changing The new parents impose rules Am I in high school? -Original Message- From: Denis Baldwin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:29 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Haiku Friday Thank God this is done New Switch is finally installed Exchange still running Denis _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Ban Outlook?
I prefer Outlook. I use a policy to keep it locked down on the client side. I don't believe that the problem stems from the creation of Outlook. The problem is that some admins are not pro-active. Others are simply too busy or overworked. I think most engineers know what to do they just have a hard time keeping up with everything. Especially when you a one man/woman (person?) shop! (I'll use myself as an example). -Original Message- From: Dean, Nathaniel, V. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 1:02 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Ban Outlook? This has been talked about before. Whatever is the dominant application will see the dominant hacks, security holes and have viruses written just for them. If your users are satisfied with the free products that are out then use them. We used pegasus mail back in the early 90's... -Original Message- From: Steve Dallas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 11:36 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Ban Outlook? Anyone care to comment? http://techupdate.zdnet.com/techupdate/stories/main/0,14179,2814683,00.html _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Haiku Friday
Noted and agreed. What about lurking readers Should we charge them lots? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Winterton, Robert K Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 12:07 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Haiku Friday You read my haiku So as far as I'm concerned We are now even -Original Message- From: Barry Patterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 12:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Haiku Friday Can I charge per read If so you all owe me lots Show me the money! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Drewski Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 11:06 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Haiku Friday To get paid to write the haiku is amazing what's your per word rate? -- Drew Visit http://www.drewncapris.net! Go! Go there now! I think that technologies are morally neutral until we apply them. It's only when we use them for good or for evil that they become good or evil. William Gibson -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Vivino, David Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:40 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Haiku Friday Haiku is my life Writing them for a living Gives me inner strength -Original Message- From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 11:29 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Haiku Friday Domain names changing The new parents impose rules Am I in high school? -Original Message- From: Denis Baldwin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:29 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Haiku Friday Thank God this is done New Switch is finally installed Exchange still running Denis _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Haiku Friday
you can charge me lots But you will never get paid Broke and overworked -Original Message- From: Barry Patterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 11:36 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Haiku Friday Noted and agreed. What about lurking readers Should we charge them lots? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Winterton, Robert K Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 12:07 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Haiku Friday You read my haiku So as far as I'm concerned We are now even -Original Message- From: Barry Patterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 12:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Haiku Friday Can I charge per read If so you all owe me lots Show me the money! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Drewski Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 11:06 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Haiku Friday To get paid to write the haiku is amazing what's your per word rate? -- Drew Visit http://www.drewncapris.net! Go! Go there now! I think that technologies are morally neutral until we apply them. It's only when we use them for good or for evil that they become good or evil. William Gibson -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Vivino, David Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:40 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Haiku Friday Haiku is my life Writing them for a living Gives me inner strength -Original Message- From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 11:29 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Haiku Friday Domain names changing The new parents impose rules Am I in high school? -Original Message- From: Denis Baldwin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:29 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Haiku Friday Thank God this is done New Switch is finally installed Exchange still running Denis _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Haiku Friday
That is very strange I have never seen you here But, you must work here -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jennifer Baker Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 1:37 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Haiku Friday you can charge me lots But you will never get paid Broke and overworked -Original Message- From: Barry Patterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 11:36 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Haiku Friday Noted and agreed. What about lurking readers Should we charge them lots? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Winterton, Robert K Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 12:07 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Haiku Friday You read my haiku So as far as I'm concerned We are now even -Original Message- From: Barry Patterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 12:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Haiku Friday Can I charge per read If so you all owe me lots Show me the money! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Drewski Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 11:06 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Haiku Friday To get paid to write the haiku is amazing what's your per word rate? -- Drew Visit http://www.drewncapris.net! Go! Go there now! I think that technologies are morally neutral until we apply them. It's only when we use them for good or for evil that they become good or evil. William Gibson -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Vivino, David Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:40 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Haiku Friday Haiku is my life Writing them for a living Gives me inner strength -Original Message- From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 11:29 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Haiku Friday Domain names changing The new parents impose rules Am I in high school? -Original Message- From: Denis Baldwin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:29 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Haiku Friday Thank God this is done New Switch is finally installed Exchange still running Denis _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL
RE: Ban Outlook?
Also, there are a few neat tricks you can implement on the client side to ease administration of Outlook. Rather than bash on it why not just administer. There are some simple registry hacks you can implement for .vbs, .js, etc... scripts so that they open in notepad instead of executing. Also, strong AV software on the Exchange Server /w attachment filtering (www.sybari.com) capabilities doesn't hurt? In addition, it doesn't hurt to have an in-service every two months to teach users Proper Use procedures for the mail. And, an Email Policy supported by your HR department is always nice. And while your at itrun some decent A/V on the client side that likes to play with Outlook (www.symantec.com). Am I wrong? -Original Message- From: Murphy, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 1:33 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Ban Outlook? I prefer Outlook. I use a policy to keep it locked down on the client side. I don't believe that the problem stems from the creation of Outlook. The problem is that some admins are not pro-active. Others are simply too busy or overworked. I think most engineers know what to do they just have a hard time keeping up with everything. Especially when you a one man/woman (person?) shop! (I'll use myself as an example). -Original Message- From: Dean, Nathaniel, V. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 1:02 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Ban Outlook? This has been talked about before. Whatever is the dominant application will see the dominant hacks, security holes and have viruses written just for them. If your users are satisfied with the free products that are out then use them. We used pegasus mail back in the early 90's... -Original Message- From: Steve Dallas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 11:36 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Ban Outlook? Anyone care to comment? http://techupdate.zdnet.com/techupdate/stories/main/0,14179,2814683,00.html _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: a 2nd antivirus
I agree. In your case, an IDS would be the most effective plan. Denis -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Hansen, Eric Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 12:37 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: a 2nd antivirus This is part of a bigger question, and I'm not sure if I agree with the means behind it but I'll ask anyway. Recently my IT manager and some of the other guys on the team have taken a deeper interest in AV, almost to the point of hiring a guy that does AV and only AV. They are also talking about having a 2nd AV in the building, say both Symantec(we currently use) and Mcafee or whatever. They seem to think between having 2 products would greater increase the ability to detect virus threats, whereas I feel that by the time one of these systems detects it it most likely has already infiltrated and done the damage. They then asked me about running 2 AV's on the Exchange server. With all the blocking I do I would think a 2nd product would not help much, not to mention the overhead and incompatibility issues a 2nd AV would cause on the Exchange server. I recommended they look at a IDS system or something for the firewall. Thoughts? e- _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Haiku Friday
I have seen her here I can vouche for Jennifer Her Haiku is leet Denis -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Barry Patterson Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 2:49 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Haiku Friday That is very strange I have never seen you here But, you must work here -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jennifer Baker Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 1:37 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Haiku Friday you can charge me lots But you will never get paid Broke and overworked -Original Message- From: Barry Patterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 11:36 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Haiku Friday Noted and agreed. What about lurking readers Should we charge them lots? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Winterton, Robert K Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 12:07 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Haiku Friday You read my haiku So as far as I'm concerned We are now even -Original Message- From: Barry Patterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 12:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Haiku Friday Can I charge per read If so you all owe me lots Show me the money! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Drewski Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 11:06 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Haiku Friday To get paid to write the haiku is amazing what's your per word rate? -- Drew Visit http://www.drewncapris.net! Go! Go there now! I think that technologies are morally neutral until we apply them. It's only when we use them for good or for evil that they become good or evil. William Gibson -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Vivino, David Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:40 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Haiku Friday Haiku is my life Writing them for a living Gives me inner strength -Original Message- From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 11:29 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Haiku Friday Domain names changing The new parents impose rules Am I in high school? -Original Message- From: Denis Baldwin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:29 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Haiku Friday Thank God this is done New Switch is finally installed Exchange still running Denis _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Haiku Friday
I have been busy I lost my slacker license Toss me a beer please -Original Message- From: Denis Baldwin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 11:56 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Haiku Friday I have seen her here I can vouche for Jennifer Her Haiku is leet Denis -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Barry Patterson Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 2:49 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Haiku Friday That is very strange I have never seen you here But, you must work here -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jennifer Baker Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 1:37 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Haiku Friday you can charge me lots But you will never get paid Broke and overworked -Original Message- From: Barry Patterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 11:36 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Haiku Friday Noted and agreed. What about lurking readers Should we charge them lots? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Winterton, Robert K Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 12:07 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Haiku Friday You read my haiku So as far as I'm concerned We are now even -Original Message- From: Barry Patterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 12:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Haiku Friday Can I charge per read If so you all owe me lots Show me the money! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Drewski Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 11:06 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Haiku Friday To get paid to write the haiku is amazing what's your per word rate? -- Drew Visit http://www.drewncapris.net! Go! Go there now! I think that technologies are morally neutral until we apply them. It's only when we use them for good or for evil that they become good or evil. William Gibson -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Vivino, David Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:40 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Haiku Friday Haiku is my life Writing them for a living Gives me inner strength -Original Message- From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 11:29 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Haiku Friday Domain names changing The new parents impose rules Am I in high school? -Original Message- From: Denis Baldwin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:29 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Haiku Friday Thank God this is done New Switch is finally installed Exchange still running Denis _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List
RE: Haiku Friday
Know she's on this list I meant at my workplace here I'm low paid and overworked... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Denis Baldwin Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 1:56 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Haiku Friday I have seen her here I can vouche for Jennifer Her Haiku is leet Denis -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Barry Patterson Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 2:49 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Haiku Friday That is very strange I have never seen you here But, you must work here -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jennifer Baker Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 1:37 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Haiku Friday you can charge me lots But you will never get paid Broke and overworked -Original Message- From: Barry Patterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 11:36 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Haiku Friday Noted and agreed. What about lurking readers Should we charge them lots? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Winterton, Robert K Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 12:07 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Haiku Friday You read my haiku So as far as I'm concerned We are now even -Original Message- From: Barry Patterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 12:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Haiku Friday Can I charge per read If so you all owe me lots Show me the money! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Drewski Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 11:06 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Haiku Friday To get paid to write the haiku is amazing what's your per word rate? -- Drew Visit http://www.drewncapris.net! Go! Go there now! I think that technologies are morally neutral until we apply them. It's only when we use them for good or for evil that they become good or evil. William Gibson -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Vivino, David Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:40 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Haiku Friday Haiku is my life Writing them for a living Gives me inner strength -Original Message- From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 11:29 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Haiku Friday Domain names changing The new parents impose rules Am I in high school? -Original Message- From: Denis Baldwin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:29 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Haiku Friday Thank God this is done New Switch is finally installed Exchange still running Denis _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
