Exchange Bandwidth

2003-07-29 Thread Paul Thiemann
Can the bandwidth that exchange uses be changed. When large attachments
are sent the internet suffers too much. We use Winnt4.0, exchange 5.5, SBS
4

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Permission Issue?

2003-07-29 Thread Scott Force
Windows NT4.0/6a domain running Exchange 5.5/4 single site.  User is
primary windows NT account for his mailbox.  User gets fired, I disable
his NT account.  If the user was connected through a VPN at 10:00AM and
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he never closed the application or disconnected from his VPN connection,
would he still be able to send e-mail?  TIA, Scott

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RE: Exchange Bandwidth

2003-07-29 Thread Martin Blackstone
No. Your best bet is to limit attachment sizes.

You also didn't mention how much bandwidth you have 

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Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 10:34 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Exchange Bandwidth

Can the bandwidth that exchange uses be changed. When large attachments are
sent the internet suffers too much. We use Winnt4.0, exchange 5.5, SBS
4

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RE: Exchange Bandwidth

2003-07-29 Thread Ben Winzenz
If you have some sort of QoS device, you can limit the bandwidth that
SMTP uses, or lower it's priority, but there is nothing you can do in
Exchange itself. 


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
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(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: Paul Thiemann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 12:34 AM
Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: Exchange Bandwidth
Subject: Exchange Bandwidth


Can the bandwidth that exchange uses be changed. When large attachments
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SBS
4

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RE: Permission Issue?

2003-07-29 Thread Blunt, James H (Jim)
Nope.

But if you really want to be doubly sure, go modify his account and put
yourself as the only account on the mailbox with permissions and set the
Send/Receive limit to zero.

-Original Message-
From: Scott Force [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 6:12 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Permission Issue?


Windows NT4.0/6a domain running Exchange 5.5/4 single site.  User is primary
windows NT account for his mailbox.  User gets fired, I disable his NT
account.  If the user was connected through a VPN at 10:00AM and had his
Outlook XP client open, then at 11:00AM I disabled his account and he never
closed the application or disconnected from his VPN connection, would he
still be able to send e-mail?  TIA, Scott

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RE: Exchange Bandwidth

2003-07-29 Thread Cary, Mark
Has anyone used ISA server to limit the bandwidth for a particular protocol,
like SMTP?  

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From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 8:28 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Bandwidth


If you have some sort of QoS device, you can limit the bandwidth that
SMTP uses, or lower it's priority, but there is nothing you can do in
Exchange itself. 


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner  White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: Paul Thiemann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 12:34 AM
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Conversation: Exchange Bandwidth
Subject: Exchange Bandwidth


Can the bandwidth that exchange uses be changed. When large attachments
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SBS
4

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RE: Permission Issue?

2003-07-29 Thread Scott Force
Somehow this user was able to send out an e-mail an hour after his account
was disabled.  I checked my VPN log and he logged on before he was fired
but didn't log off until 3 hours after he was canned (and his account
disabled).  I was st00pid in assuming that the manager at that location
would physically remove him from his PC.

If you're saying no, that this is not possible, how else could he have
done it?

 Nope.
 
 But if you really want to be doubly sure, go modify his account and put
 yourself as the only account on the mailbox with permissions and set the
 Send/Receive limit to zero.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Scott Force [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 6:12 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Permission Issue?
 
 
 Windows NT4.0/6a domain running Exchange 5.5/4 single site.  User is primary
 windows NT account for his mailbox.  User gets fired, I disable his NT
 account.  If the user was connected through a VPN at 10:00AM and had his
 Outlook XP client open, then at 11:00AM I disabled his account and he never
 closed the application or disconnected from his VPN connection, would he
 still be able to send e-mail?  TIA, Scott
 
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RE: Exchange Bandwidth

2003-07-29 Thread Ben Winzenz
I don't believe that you can limit the bandwidth using ISA.  You can
only create Bandwidth priorities.  As I said, if you want to limit
bandwidth, you need to look at some sort of QoS (Quality of Service)
hardware device (Sitara, PacketShaper are 2 that come to mind) that
allows you to actually specify limits in terms of bandwidth.  What ISA
will give you is just prioritizing traffic.  That may give you what you
are looking for.  Set SMTP traffic to a low priority (lower number is
lower priority) and everything else gets higher priority.  I don't know
if that will accomplish what you are wanting to do though. 


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner  White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: Cary, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 9:57 AM
Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: Exchange Bandwidth
Subject: RE: Exchange Bandwidth


Has anyone used ISA server to limit the bandwidth for a particular
protocol, like SMTP?  

-Original Message-
From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 8:28 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Bandwidth


If you have some sort of QoS device, you can limit the bandwidth that
SMTP uses, or lower it's priority, but there is nothing you can do in
Exchange itself. 


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner  White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: Paul Thiemann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Posted At: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 12:34 AM Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: Exchange Bandwidth
Subject: Exchange Bandwidth


Can the bandwidth that exchange uses be changed. When large attachments
are sent the internet suffers too much. We use Winnt4.0, exchange 5.5,
SBS
4

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Reccomended Black Lists

2003-07-29 Thread Aaron Brasslett
Hi all,

I'm planning to install spam blocking software soon and I was wonder what
mailhost black lists you all recommend.  

Thanks.

Aaron

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RE: Reccomended Black Lists

2003-07-29 Thread Martin Blackstone
None 

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Subject: Reccomended Black Lists

Hi all,

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RE: Exchange Bandwidth

2003-07-29 Thread Martin Blackstone
Packeteer rocks! But I doubt it would be a feasible solution cost wise for a
company that uses SBS 

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From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 8:30 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Bandwidth

I don't believe that you can limit the bandwidth using ISA.  You can
only create Bandwidth priorities.  As I said, if you want to limit
bandwidth, you need to look at some sort of QoS (Quality of Service)
hardware device (Sitara, PacketShaper are 2 that come to mind) that
allows you to actually specify limits in terms of bandwidth.  What ISA
will give you is just prioritizing traffic.  That may give you what you
are looking for.  Set SMTP traffic to a low priority (lower number is
lower priority) and everything else gets higher priority.  I don't know
if that will accomplish what you are wanting to do though. 


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner  White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: Cary, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 9:57 AM
Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: Exchange Bandwidth
Subject: RE: Exchange Bandwidth


Has anyone used ISA server to limit the bandwidth for a particular
protocol, like SMTP?  

-Original Message-
From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 8:28 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Bandwidth


If you have some sort of QoS device, you can limit the bandwidth that
SMTP uses, or lower it's priority, but there is nothing you can do in
Exchange itself. 


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner  White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: Paul Thiemann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Posted At: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 12:34 AM Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: Exchange Bandwidth
Subject: Exchange Bandwidth


Can the bandwidth that exchange uses be changed. When large attachments
are sent the internet suffers too much. We use Winnt4.0, exchange 5.5,
SBS
4

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RE: Reccomended Black Lists

2003-07-29 Thread Aaron Brasslett
Really?  Do you find them to be inaccurate?

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Subject: RE: Reccomended Black Lists


None 

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Subject: Reccomended Black Lists

Hi all,

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Thanks.

Aaron

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RE: Reccomended Black Lists

2003-07-29 Thread Martin Blackstone
I find that most of them are run by vigilantes. There is no accountability
for these lists. They can do as they please and most often do. I'm not going
to trust my business  email to someone like that.

Since you have no control over what gets blocked, you could find yourself
missing valuable business email without knowing it.  

-Original Message-
From: Aaron Brasslett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 8:35 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Reccomended Black Lists

Really?  Do you find them to be inaccurate?

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:32 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Reccomended Black Lists


None 

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Subject: Reccomended Black Lists

Hi all,

I'm planning to install spam blocking software soon and I was wonder what
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Thanks.

Aaron

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RE: Reccomended Black Lists

2003-07-29 Thread John Parker
I would agree with Martin,  There is even one blacklist who will not even respond to 
your Emails for assistance  unless you pay him a ridiculous sum.

Even if your being on their list is a mistake.

John Parker, MCSE
IS Admin.
Senior Technical Specialist
Digital Display Systems.

Alpha Video
7711 Computer Ave.
Edina, MN. 55435
 
952-896-9898 Local
800-388-0008 Watts
952-896-9899 Fax
612-804-8769 Cell
952-841-3327 Direct

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Be excellent to each other
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-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 10:37 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Reccomended Black Lists


I find that most of them are run by vigilantes. There is no accountability
for these lists. They can do as they please and most often do. I'm not going
to trust my business  email to someone like that.

Since you have no control over what gets blocked, you could find yourself
missing valuable business email without knowing it.  

-Original Message-
From: Aaron Brasslett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 8:35 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Reccomended Black Lists

Really?  Do you find them to be inaccurate?

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:32 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Reccomended Black Lists


None 

-Original Message-
From: Aaron Brasslett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 8:33 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Reccomended Black Lists

Hi all,

I'm planning to install spam blocking software soon and I was wonder what
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Thanks.

Aaron

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Re: need Exchange client

2003-07-29 Thread Missy Koslosky
I sent him a copy offline.
- Original Message -
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To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 8:55 PM
Subject: RE: need Exchange client


You still need it? I can send it to tomorrow when I get to work let me know
offline.


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fyodorov, Andrey
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 2:24 PM
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Hi all. Please tell me where I can download the good old Exchange client
from. Thanks!


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RE: Reccomended Black Lists

2003-07-29 Thread Fred
I disagree with most of it, however, blacklist has been more valuable than
not.  Here's what I use:

-SPAM blocked today-
 1423 - relays.osirusoft.com
  218 - dnsbl.njabl.org
   36 - relays.ordb.org
Total Inbound Mail
   2599



 I find that most of them are run by vigilantes. There is no accountability
 for these lists. They can do as they please and most often do. I'm not going
 to trust my business  email to someone like that.
 
 Since you have no control over what gets blocked, you could find yourself
 missing valuable business email without knowing it.  
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Aaron Brasslett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 8:35 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Reccomended Black Lists
 
 Really?  Do you find them to be inaccurate?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:32 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Reccomended Black Lists
 
 
 None 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Aaron Brasslett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 8:33 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Reccomended Black Lists
 
 Hi all,
 
 I'm planning to install spam blocking software soon and I was wonder what
 mailhost black lists you all recommend.  
 
 Thanks.
 
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Re: Permission Issue?

2003-07-29 Thread Missy Koslosky
My understanding is that an open session remains open and that disabling the
account will not impact that session.
- Original Message -
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Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 9:11 AM
Subject: Permission Issue?


Windows NT4.0/6a domain running Exchange 5.5/4 single site.  User is
primary windows NT account for his mailbox.  User gets fired, I disable
his NT account.  If the user was connected through a VPN at 10:00AM and
had his Outlook XP client open, then at 11:00AM I disabled his account and
he never closed the application or disconnected from his VPN connection,
would he still be able to send e-mail?  TIA, Scott

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RE: Reccomended Black Lists

2003-07-29 Thread Randal, Phil
The best thing to do is what my home ISP does.

They use relays.osirusoft.com and add an X-Whatevertheylike
header to each email from a listed IP address.  Then users
can filter possible spams based on that header's presence.

So tagging as possible spam, but not blocking, and then using
rules to move incoming mails into a possible junk mail folder
is a good compromise.  And real mail which ends up there on
a regular basis can be dealt with by filtering rules which
deal with it before the spam rule.

Cheers,

Phil

-
Phil Randal
Network Engineer
Herefordshire Council
Hereford, UK 

 -Original Message-
 From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 29 July 2003 16:37
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Reccomended Black Lists
 
 
 I find that most of them are run by vigilantes. There is no 
 accountability
 for these lists. They can do as they please and most often 
 do. I'm not going
 to trust my business  email to someone like that.
 
 Since you have no control over what gets blocked, you could 
 find yourself
 missing valuable business email without knowing it.  
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Aaron Brasslett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 8:35 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Reccomended Black Lists
 
 Really?  Do you find them to be inaccurate?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:32 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Reccomended Black Lists
 
 
 None 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Aaron Brasslett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 8:33 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Reccomended Black Lists
 
 Hi all,
 
 I'm planning to install spam blocking software soon and I was 
 wonder what
 mailhost black lists you all recommend.  
 
 Thanks.
 
 Aaron
 
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RE: Reccomended Black Lists

2003-07-29 Thread Bob Sadler
I have been using the blacklists for about three months now.  While it's
easier for me to figure out the local ISP's that will be used by our
constituents and put them on white lists, I can see where Martin and
others are coming from.

For a while I was using the FIVETEN Blackhole list combined.  Then I
discovered they were blocking ALL of Yahoo.  I mean wow!  Seemed a bit
extreme to me.  I did stop using that list for obvious reasons.

It does seem a little risky to rely on other people's judgment for the
lists, although until there is an organization that will take over these
types of lists that is more reliable and has a set way to get on and off
a list, it's pretty much the only thing we have.



Bob Sadler
City of Leawood, KS, USA
WAN/Internet Specialist
913-339-6700 x194

Get a Life!  Get TWO!  Play Second Life!
http://secondlife.com/ss/?u=b4ebbfdd6af98a027fa7e89a86c55a68 


-Original Message-
From: Fred [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 10:48 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Reccomended Black Lists


I disagree with most of it, however, blacklist has been more valuable
than not.  Here's what I use:

-SPAM blocked today-
 1423 - relays.osirusoft.com
  218 - dnsbl.njabl.org
   36 - relays.ordb.org
Total Inbound Mail
   2599



 I find that most of them are run by vigilantes. There is no 
 accountability for these lists. They can do as they please and most 
 often do. I'm not going to trust my business  email to someone like 
 that.
 
 Since you have no control over what gets blocked, you could find 
 yourself missing valuable business email without knowing it.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Aaron Brasslett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 8:35 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Reccomended Black Lists
 
 Really?  Do you find them to be inaccurate?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:32 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Reccomended Black Lists
 
 
 None
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Aaron Brasslett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 8:33 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Reccomended Black Lists
 
 Hi all,
 
 I'm planning to install spam blocking software soon and I was wonder 
 what mailhost black lists you all recommend.
 
 Thanks.
 
 Aaron
 
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RE: Reccomended Black Lists

2003-07-29 Thread John Parker
Anyone ever heard of Appriver?

They are a spam/viruse service.
We've been using them for almost a year now, and considering the Spam/Virus cleanup 
they do, it's worth the money.

Our Spam volume is down by 90-95 percent.

ANyone else use a service like that?



John Parker, MCSE
IS Admin.
Senior Technical Specialist
Digital Display Systems.

Alpha Video
7711 Computer Ave.
Edina, MN. 55435
 
952-896-9898 Local
800-388-0008 Watts
952-896-9899 Fax
612-804-8769 Cell
952-841-3327 Direct

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-Original Message-
From: Bob Sadler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 10:53 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Reccomended Black Lists


I have been using the blacklists for about three months now.  While it's
easier for me to figure out the local ISP's that will be used by our
constituents and put them on white lists, I can see where Martin and
others are coming from.

For a while I was using the FIVETEN Blackhole list combined.  Then I
discovered they were blocking ALL of Yahoo.  I mean wow!  Seemed a bit
extreme to me.  I did stop using that list for obvious reasons.

It does seem a little risky to rely on other people's judgment for the
lists, although until there is an organization that will take over these
types of lists that is more reliable and has a set way to get on and off
a list, it's pretty much the only thing we have.



Bob Sadler
City of Leawood, KS, USA
WAN/Internet Specialist
913-339-6700 x194

Get a Life!  Get TWO!  Play Second Life!
http://secondlife.com/ss/?u=b4ebbfdd6af98a027fa7e89a86c55a68 


-Original Message-
From: Fred [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 10:48 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Reccomended Black Lists


I disagree with most of it, however, blacklist has been more valuable
than not.  Here's what I use:

-SPAM blocked today-
 1423 - relays.osirusoft.com
  218 - dnsbl.njabl.org
   36 - relays.ordb.org
Total Inbound Mail
   2599



 I find that most of them are run by vigilantes. There is no 
 accountability for these lists. They can do as they please and most 
 often do. I'm not going to trust my business  email to someone like 
 that.
 
 Since you have no control over what gets blocked, you could find 
 yourself missing valuable business email without knowing it.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Aaron Brasslett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 8:35 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Reccomended Black Lists
 
 Really?  Do you find them to be inaccurate?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:32 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Reccomended Black Lists
 
 
 None
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Aaron Brasslett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 8:33 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Reccomended Black Lists
 
 Hi all,
 
 I'm planning to install spam blocking software soon and I was wonder 
 what mailhost black lists you all recommend.
 
 Thanks.
 
 Aaron
 
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RE: Reccomended Black Lists

2003-07-29 Thread Roger Seielstad
We use Spamcop.net's to good overall effect. They're the only one I've found
that provides enough information as to why a domain is listed, as well as
easy access to have a site removed once the issues are corrected.

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.


 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:33 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Reccomended Black Lists
 
 
 Hi all,
 
 I'm planning to install spam blocking software soon and I was 
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 Thanks.
 
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RE: Reccomended Black Lists

2003-07-29 Thread Roger Seielstad
Hmmm... And what percentage of those are valid business email?

I concur with AB's assessment that they are mostly run by vigilantes. There
is a fairly famous exchange on this list about a year or two ago, by Jim
Schwartz, Paul Cumming, et al, concerning Dr, Cumming's own RBL. I think its
required reading for anyone considering RBL usage.

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.


 -Original Message-
 From: Fred [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:48 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Reccomended Black Lists
 
 
 I disagree with most of it, however, blacklist has been more 
 valuable than
 not.  Here's what I use:
 
 -SPAM blocked today-
  1423 - relays.osirusoft.com
   218 - dnsbl.njabl.org
36 - relays.ordb.org
 Total Inbound Mail
2599
 
 
 
  I find that most of them are run by vigilantes. There is no 
 accountability
  for these lists. They can do as they please and most often 
 do. I'm not going
  to trust my business  email to someone like that.
  
  Since you have no control over what gets blocked, you could 
 find yourself
  missing valuable business email without knowing it.  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Aaron Brasslett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 8:35 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Reccomended Black Lists
  
  Really?  Do you find them to be inaccurate?
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:32 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Reccomended Black Lists
  
  
  None 
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Aaron Brasslett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 8:33 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: Reccomended Black Lists
  
  Hi all,
  
  I'm planning to install spam blocking software soon and I 
 was wonder what
  mailhost black lists you all recommend.  
  
  Thanks.
  
  Aaron
  
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FW: IMC bouncing any attachment

2003-07-29 Thread Bennett, Joshua

Hello all,
 
I need a little assistance here. I am running NT4 SP6a Ex 5.5 SP4 in a
multi-site hub/spoke arrangement. It appears that the hub server (also the
IMC for the entire ORG) is bouncing any external email that has any
attachments in it. The filename/size/or sender doesn't seem to matter. The
only error I found was that yesterday (when all of this started happening)
the C: drive had only had 120MB of free space and the IMC had stopped
running. Once I had freed up disk space, I restarted the server and all
appeared to be fine. Since then, though, it has bounced any attachment
from any sender to anyone inside the Exchange ORG. There are no Exchange
related errors in the Event Logs on this server at all. I am totally
befuddled by this.
 
Please help, as this is urgent.  
 
Josh Bennett
Exchange Administrator
Cotelligent, Inc.
401 Parkway Drive
Broomall, PA 19008
610.359.5929 Tel
610.353.1693 Fax
www.cotelligent.com
Connecting People to Information
 

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RE: Reccomended Black Lists

2003-07-29 Thread PF: Exchange

I can see both sides of the argument here...


I have several clients running a program called Xwall.

Xwall allows you to specify Internet RBL/SPAM lists (We are using
SpamCop  Osirusoft)  It's also got a Bayesian filter.

You can specify what to do with the positive spam hits. For example, you
can delete it, generate a return message, or FORWARD it to a different
address.

We generally set it up to forward confirmed spam to a, Exchange public
folder.  There is an employee who's job it is to filter through this
stuff to determine if it is spam or not.

One of the sites where we have this installed gets about 2500 messages a
day.  (Yes it's a smaller site than many of you deal with.)  We have
determined that about 70% of that is spam.

We have found the RBL/SPAM list method only falsely confirms a message
as spam about once a month.  I know if we started adding more RBL/SPAM
lists, that number would go way up.

Generally, the consensus with most employees is that they would rather
miss an important message once in a while than deal with the hundreds of
spam message they get each day.  Since management seems to get more of
the spam, they were very happy about reducing it.


-Kevin

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RE: IMC bouncing any attachment

2003-07-29 Thread Bennett, Joshua
Just to let you all know here is the NDR people are getting.

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Rajat; Vishwanathan, Vish
  Subject: August 2003 Release - MoveToCert
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-Original Message-
From: Bennett, Joshua [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 12:43 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: FW: IMC bouncing any attachment


Hello all,
 
I need a little assistance here. I am running NT4 SP6a Ex 5.5 SP4 in a
multi-site hub/spoke arrangement. It appears that the hub server (also the
IMC for the entire ORG) is bouncing any external email that has any
attachments in it. The filename/size/or sender doesn't seem to matter. The
only error I found was that yesterday (when all of this started happening)
the C: drive had only had 120MB of free space and the IMC had stopped
running. Once I had freed up disk space, I restarted the server and all
appeared to be fine. Since then, though, it has bounced any attachment
from any sender to anyone inside the Exchange ORG. There are no Exchange
related errors in the Event Logs on this server at all. I am totally
befuddled by this.
 
Please help, as this is urgent.  
 
Josh Bennett
Exchange Administrator
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RE: Permission Issue?

2003-07-29 Thread Blunt, James H (Jim)
Missy,

In an NT 4.0 domain environment?

I have the same environment as Scott has.  Ex5.5 SP4 on a Win2000 SP2
machine, running in an NT 4.0 domain.  The only difference is that they are
using VPN...we are not at this time.

However, we use one of our Help Desk temps occasionally to break up the
boredom.  We flip his network account between enabled and disabled every 20
minutes or so, for an hour or two, and depending on where the DC's are in
their 15-minute refresh cycle, it can take as little as a minute for him to
be locked out of everything.  When he is locked out, the system asks him to
put in his name and password every time he tries to send an e-mail and then
subsequently denies his request.  It also locks him out of any network
connectivity.  It does let him continue to use his workstation though.

Scott...the only thing I can think of, is that you have changed the default
refresh value for the DC's from 15 minutes to over an hour.

-Original Message-
From: Missy Koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 8:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Permission Issue?


My understanding is that an open session remains open and that disabling the
account will not impact that session.

-Original Message-
From: Scott Force [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 8:22 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Permission Issue?


Somehow this user was able to send out an e-mail an hour after his account
was disabled.  I checked my VPN log and he logged on before he was fired but
didn't log off until 3 hours after he was canned (and his account disabled).
I was st00pid in assuming that the manager at that location would physically
remove him from his PC.

If you're saying no, that this is not possible, how else could he have done
it?

 Nope.
 
 But if you really want to be doubly sure, go modify his account and 
 put yourself as the only account on the mailbox with permissions and 
 set the Send/Receive limit to zero.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Scott Force [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 6:12 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Permission Issue?
 
 
 Windows NT4.0/6a domain running Exchange 5.5/4 single site.  User is 
 primary windows NT account for his mailbox.  User gets fired, I 
 disable his NT account.  If the user was connected through a VPN at 
 10:00AM and had his Outlook XP client open, then at 11:00AM I disabled 
 his account and he never closed the application or disconnected from 
 his VPN connection, would he still be able to send e-mail?  TIA, Scott
 
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OWA hangs for minutes at NT login

2003-07-29 Thread Sean Brandt

Hi Everyone,
I have a Windows 2000 member server running IIS 5.0 and OWA 5.5. Recently,
when accessing webmail the server will hang for up to 3-5 minutes after
entering NT domain credentials. It eventually gets to the mailbox. 
I checked the directory security for the website in IIS 5.0 and it is set to
anonymous and clear text. 
Does anyone know of anything that could be causing this? 

Thanks,
Sean

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Re: OWA hangs for minutes at NT login

2003-07-29 Thread Tony Hlabse
Does this happen when a user olgs on for the first time using OWA or 
everytime they login into OWA

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Subject: OWA hangs for minutes at NT login
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 10:03:35 -0700
Hi Everyone,
I have a Windows 2000 member server running IIS 5.0 and OWA 5.5. Recently,
when accessing webmail the server will hang for up to 3-5 minutes after
entering NT domain credentials. It eventually gets to the mailbox.
I checked the directory security for the website in IIS 5.0 and it is set to
anonymous and clear text.
Does anyone know of anything that could be causing this?
Thanks,
Sean
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RE: IMC bouncing any attachment

2003-07-29 Thread Blunt, James H (Jim)
Have you taken a look at the properties of the two mailboxes in question?

You sent it to eight (8) people...six of them got it and two had it bounced.
This would suggest one of two possible motives:
1.  These two personnel have reached their Send/Receive limit because their
mailbox is full;
2.  These two personnel have a smaller limit on the attachment sizes that
can hit their mailboxes.

-Original Message-
From: Bennett, Joshua [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 10:00 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: IMC bouncing any attachment


Just to let you all know here is the NDR people are getting.

-Original Message-
From: System Administrator [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
/cgi-bin/compose?mailto=1msg=MSG1059491688.59start=986517len=690169src=
type=xto=postmaster%40cotelligent%2ecomcc=bcc=subject=body=curmbox=F0
0001a=57b4114774dfde034b0d8860ffd22dfd] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 10:58 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
/cgi-bin/compose?curmbox=F1a=57b4114774dfde034b0d8860ffd22dfdmail
to=1[EMAIL PROTECTED]msg=MSG1059491688.59start=986517len=690169s
rc=type=x
Subject: Undeliverable: August 2003 Release - MoveToCert


Your message

  To:  Ghanbir Singh ([EMAIL PROTECTED]
/cgi-bin/compose?curmbox=F1a=57b4114774dfde034b0d8860ffd22dfdmail
to=1[EMAIL PROTECTED]msg=MSG1059491688.59start=986517len=
690169src=type=x); Shea, Brian
  Cc:  Weisser, Mark; Basham, Andy; Lah, Mike; Serpa, Barry; Singh,
Rajat; Vishwanathan, Vish
  Subject: August 2003 Release - MoveToCert
  Sent:Tue, 29 Jul 2003 10:56:20 -0400

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-Original Message-
From: Bennett, Joshua [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 12:43 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: FW: IMC bouncing any attachment


Hello all,
 
I need a little assistance here. I am running NT4 SP6a Ex 5.5 SP4 in a
multi-site hub/spoke arrangement. It appears that the hub server (also the
IMC for the entire ORG) is bouncing any external email that has any
attachments in it. The filename/size/or sender doesn't seem to matter. The
only error I found was that yesterday (when all of this started happening)
the C: drive had only had 120MB of free space and the IMC had stopped
running. Once I had freed up disk space, I restarted the server and all
appeared to be fine. Since then, though, it has bounced any attachment
from any sender to anyone inside the Exchange ORG. There are no Exchange
related errors in the Event Logs on this server at all. I am totally
befuddled by this.
 
Please help, as this is urgent.  
 
Josh Bennett
Exchange Administrator
Cotelligent, Inc.
401 Parkway Drive
Broomall, PA 19008
610.359.5929 Tel
610.353.1693 Fax
www.cotelligent.com
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RE: OWA hangs for minutes at NT login

2003-07-29 Thread Sean Brandt
It happens everytime anyone logs on. It may be 30 seconds to a minute faster
at different times but pretty much at all times.

-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 10:09 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: OWA hangs for minutes at NT login


Does this happen when a user olgs on for the first time using OWA or 
everytime they login into OWA


From: Sean Brandt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: OWA hangs for minutes at NT login
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 10:03:35 -0700


Hi Everyone,
I have a Windows 2000 member server running IIS 5.0 and OWA 5.5. Recently,
when accessing webmail the server will hang for up to 3-5 minutes after
entering NT domain credentials. It eventually gets to the mailbox. I checked
the directory security for the website in IIS 5.0 and it is set to
anonymous and clear text. Does anyone know of anything that could be
causing this?

Thanks,
Sean

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Systems Engineer
Lonely Planet Publications, USA


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Re: Permission Issue?

2003-07-29 Thread Missy Koslosky
My understanding (which may well be flawed, but hey, this is my very own
understanding, ya know?) is that Exchange doesn't really care about this.
But if you're seeing evidence to the contrary, I could well be wrong.
- Original Message -
From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 1:01 PM
Subject: RE: Permission Issue?


Missy,

In an NT 4.0 domain environment?

I have the same environment as Scott has.  Ex5.5 SP4 on a Win2000 SP2
machine, running in an NT 4.0 domain.  The only difference is that they are
using VPN...we are not at this time.

However, we use one of our Help Desk temps occasionally to break up the
boredom.  We flip his network account between enabled and disabled every 20
minutes or so, for an hour or two, and depending on where the DC's are in
their 15-minute refresh cycle, it can take as little as a minute for him to
be locked out of everything.  When he is locked out, the system asks him to
put in his name and password every time he tries to send an e-mail and then
subsequently denies his request.  It also locks him out of any network
connectivity.  It does let him continue to use his workstation though.

Scott...the only thing I can think of, is that you have changed the default
refresh value for the DC's from 15 minutes to over an hour.

-Original Message-
From: Missy Koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 8:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Permission Issue?


My understanding is that an open session remains open and that disabling the
account will not impact that session.

-Original Message-
From: Scott Force [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 8:22 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Permission Issue?


Somehow this user was able to send out an e-mail an hour after his account
was disabled.  I checked my VPN log and he logged on before he was fired but
didn't log off until 3 hours after he was canned (and his account disabled).
I was st00pid in assuming that the manager at that location would physically
remove him from his PC.

If you're saying no, that this is not possible, how else could he have done
it?

 Nope.

 But if you really want to be doubly sure, go modify his account and
 put yourself as the only account on the mailbox with permissions and
 set the Send/Receive limit to zero.

 -Original Message-
 From: Scott Force [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 6:12 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Permission Issue?


 Windows NT4.0/6a domain running Exchange 5.5/4 single site.  User is
 primary windows NT account for his mailbox.  User gets fired, I
 disable his NT account.  If the user was connected through a VPN at
 10:00AM and had his Outlook XP client open, then at 11:00AM I disabled
 his account and he never closed the application or disconnected from
 his VPN connection, would he still be able to send e-mail?  TIA, Scott

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RE: IMC bouncing any attachment

2003-07-29 Thread Bennett, Joshua
Unfortunately, the IMC server is generating NDR's for anyone who is sent a
message that has an attachment. Ordinary mail (with no attachments) is
passing through just fine. And this is not limited to just 2 people but to
everyone on the inside. 


-Original Message-
From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 1:10 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: IMC bouncing any attachment

Have you taken a look at the properties of the two mailboxes in question?

You sent it to eight (8) people...six of them got it and two had it bounced.
This would suggest one of two possible motives:
1.  These two personnel have reached their Send/Receive limit because their
mailbox is full;
2.  These two personnel have a smaller limit on the attachment sizes that
can hit their mailboxes.

-Original Message-
From: Bennett, Joshua [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 10:00 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: IMC bouncing any attachment


Just to let you all know here is the NDR people are getting.

-Original Message-
From: System Administrator [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
/cgi-bin/compose?mailto=1msg=MSG1059491688.59start=986517len=690169src=
type=xto=postmaster%40cotelligent%2ecomcc=bcc=subject=body=curmbox=F0
0001a=57b4114774dfde034b0d8860ffd22dfd] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 10:58 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
/cgi-bin/compose?curmbox=F1a=57b4114774dfde034b0d8860ffd22dfdmail
to=1[EMAIL PROTECTED]msg=MSG1059491688.59start=986517len=690169s
rc=type=x
Subject: Undeliverable: August 2003 Release - MoveToCert


Your message

  To:  Ghanbir Singh ([EMAIL PROTECTED]
/cgi-bin/compose?curmbox=F1a=57b4114774dfde034b0d8860ffd22dfdmail
to=1[EMAIL PROTECTED]msg=MSG1059491688.59start=986517len=
690169src=type=x); Shea, Brian
  Cc:  Weisser, Mark; Basham, Andy; Lah, Mike; Serpa, Barry; Singh,
Rajat; Vishwanathan, Vish
  Subject: August 2003 Release - MoveToCert
  Sent:Tue, 29 Jul 2003 10:56:20 -0400

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-Original Message-
From: Bennett, Joshua [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 12:43 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: FW: IMC bouncing any attachment


Hello all,
 
I need a little assistance here. I am running NT4 SP6a Ex 5.5 SP4 in a
multi-site hub/spoke arrangement. It appears that the hub server (also the
IMC for the entire ORG) is bouncing any external email that has any
attachments in it. The filename/size/or sender doesn't seem to matter. The
only error I found was that yesterday (when all of this started happening)
the C: drive had only had 120MB of free space and the IMC had stopped
running. Once I had freed up disk space, I restarted the server and all
appeared to be fine. Since then, though, it has bounced any attachment
from any sender to anyone inside the Exchange ORG. There are no Exchange
related errors in the Event Logs on this server at all. I am totally
befuddled by this.
 
Please help, as this is urgent.  
 
Josh Bennett
Exchange Administrator
Cotelligent, Inc.
401 Parkway Drive
Broomall, PA 19008
610.359.5929 Tel
610.353.1693 Fax
www.cotelligent.com
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Secondary Address Book

2003-07-29 Thread MH
I am having problem locating any info on creating a secondary address
book. We have just moved our company off of Lotus R5 and I need to import
the old notes address book in to a new address book in exchange but am
finding it hard to find any how to do articles. Can anyone help or point
me in the right direction ?? I am using Exchange 2k standard and Windows
2000 Server.

Thanks
MH

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RE: IMC bouncing any attachment

2003-07-29 Thread Bennett, Joshua
I have found the culprit. Apparently NAVMSE (AV running on the server) was
hung scanning a message and caused the server to bounce any other
attachments (still not quite sure why). I restarted NAV and all is well.

Thanks

-Original Message-
From: Bennett, Joshua [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 1:15 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: IMC bouncing any attachment

Unfortunately, the IMC server is generating NDR's for anyone who is sent a
message that has an attachment. Ordinary mail (with no attachments) is
passing through just fine. And this is not limited to just 2 people but to
everyone on the inside. 


-Original Message-
From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 1:10 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: IMC bouncing any attachment

Have you taken a look at the properties of the two mailboxes in question?

You sent it to eight (8) people...six of them got it and two had it bounced.
This would suggest one of two possible motives:
1.  These two personnel have reached their Send/Receive limit because their
mailbox is full;
2.  These two personnel have a smaller limit on the attachment sizes that
can hit their mailboxes.

-Original Message-
From: Bennett, Joshua [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 10:00 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: IMC bouncing any attachment


Just to let you all know here is the NDR people are getting.

-Original Message-
From: System Administrator [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
/cgi-bin/compose?mailto=1msg=MSG1059491688.59start=986517len=690169src=
type=xto=postmaster%40cotelligent%2ecomcc=bcc=subject=body=curmbox=F0
0001a=57b4114774dfde034b0d8860ffd22dfd] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 10:58 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
/cgi-bin/compose?curmbox=F1a=57b4114774dfde034b0d8860ffd22dfdmail
to=1[EMAIL PROTECTED]msg=MSG1059491688.59start=986517len=690169s
rc=type=x
Subject: Undeliverable: August 2003 Release - MoveToCert


Your message

  To:  Ghanbir Singh ([EMAIL PROTECTED]
/cgi-bin/compose?curmbox=F1a=57b4114774dfde034b0d8860ffd22dfdmail
to=1[EMAIL PROTECTED]msg=MSG1059491688.59start=986517len=
690169src=type=x); Shea, Brian
  Cc:  Weisser, Mark; Basham, Andy; Lah, Mike; Serpa, Barry; Singh,
Rajat; Vishwanathan, Vish
  Subject: August 2003 Release - MoveToCert
  Sent:Tue, 29 Jul 2003 10:56:20 -0400

did not reach the following recipient(s):

Shea, Brian on Tue, 29 Jul 2003 10:57:58 -0400
Unable to deliver the message due to a recipient problem
MSEXCH:MSExchangeIS:COTLDOM21:COTLDOM21
Singh, Ghanbir on Tue, 29 Jul 2003 10:57:58 -0400
Unable to deliver the message due to a recipient problem
MSEXCH:MSExchangeIS:COTLDOM21:COTLDOM21



-Original Message-
From: Bennett, Joshua [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 12:43 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: FW: IMC bouncing any attachment


Hello all,
 
I need a little assistance here. I am running NT4 SP6a Ex 5.5 SP4 in a
multi-site hub/spoke arrangement. It appears that the hub server (also the
IMC for the entire ORG) is bouncing any external email that has any
attachments in it. The filename/size/or sender doesn't seem to matter. The
only error I found was that yesterday (when all of this started happening)
the C: drive had only had 120MB of free space and the IMC had stopped
running. Once I had freed up disk space, I restarted the server and all
appeared to be fine. Since then, though, it has bounced any attachment
from any sender to anyone inside the Exchange ORG. There are no Exchange
related errors in the Event Logs on this server at all. I am totally
befuddled by this.
 
Please help, as this is urgent.  
 
Josh Bennett
Exchange Administrator
Cotelligent, Inc.
401 Parkway Drive
Broomall, PA 19008
610.359.5929 Tel
610.353.1693 Fax
www.cotelligent.com
Connecting People to Information
 

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RE: Secondary Address Book

2003-07-29 Thread Ed Crowley
I believe the easiest and most comprehensive way to bring the Notes Address
Book into Exchange is to connect it via the Exchange Connector for Lotus
Notes.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
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Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 10:03 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Secondary Address Book

I am having problem locating any info on creating a secondary address book.
We have just moved our company off of Lotus R5 and I need to import the old
notes address book in to a new address book in exchange but am finding it
hard to find any how to do articles. Can anyone help or point me in the
right direction ?? I am using Exchange 2k standard and Windows 2000 Server.

Thanks
MH

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RE: Secondary Address Book

2003-07-29 Thread mh exch
If I do use the notes connector does this mean it is a one time import or do I have to 
keep it connected to the notes box ?? I did try earlier in the process to use the 
connector but was have a lot of issues with it since the notes was being hosted buy a 
AS/400 so we didn't import anything in. Wondering  about using a export of the notes 
address book then puting it to a csv file then import it into Exchange. 
I would like to import it into a new address book so I will have one for the internal 
and one for the external notes addresses which is what is in question.

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:35 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book


I believe the easiest and most comprehensive way to bring the Notes Address
Book into Exchange is to connect it via the Exchange Connector for Lotus
Notes.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MH
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 10:03 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Secondary Address Book

I am having problem locating any info on creating a secondary address book.
We have just moved our company off of Lotus R5 and I need to import the old
notes address book in to a new address book in exchange but am finding it
hard to find any how to do articles. Can anyone help or point me in the
right direction ?? I am using Exchange 2k standard and Windows 2000 Server.

Thanks
MH

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Archiving software

2003-07-29 Thread Haber, David J.
I am currently evaluating IXOS, KVS and EAS for an email archiving
solution. Would anyone with realtime experience with any of these
products care to comment on their strengths and weaknesses?

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RE: Secondary Address Book

2003-07-29 Thread Ed Crowley
Why wouldn't you want to keep it connected to Notes?

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mh exch
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 10:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book

If I do use the notes connector does this mean it is a one time import or do
I have to keep it connected to the notes box ?? I did try earlier in the
process to use the connector but was have a lot of issues with it since the
notes was being hosted buy a AS/400 so we didn't import anything in.
Wondering  about using a export of the notes address book then puting it to
a csv file then import it into Exchange. 
I would like to import it into a new address book so I will have one for the
internal and one for the external notes addresses which is what is in
question.

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:35 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book


I believe the easiest and most comprehensive way to bring the Notes Address
Book into Exchange is to connect it via the Exchange Connector for Lotus
Notes.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MH
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 10:03 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Secondary Address Book

I am having problem locating any info on creating a secondary address book.
We have just moved our company off of Lotus R5 and I need to import the old
notes address book in to a new address book in exchange but am finding it
hard to find any how to do articles. Can anyone help or point me in the
right direction ?? I am using Exchange 2k standard and Windows 2000 Server.

Thanks
MH

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RE: Secondary Address Book

2003-07-29 Thread mh exch
Because the Notes Server is going to go away when I can get the address book issue 
resolved. I was hoping to beable to create another address book and then import the 
notes addresses into it. We have a few Notes serveres around the company but we are in 
the process of phaseing them out. So I don't want to have anything left over from the 
notes world.

MH

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:51 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book


Why wouldn't you want to keep it connected to Notes?

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mh exch
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 10:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book

If I do use the notes connector does this mean it is a one time import or do
I have to keep it connected to the notes box ?? I did try earlier in the
process to use the connector but was have a lot of issues with it since the
notes was being hosted buy a AS/400 so we didn't import anything in.
Wondering  about using a export of the notes address book then puting it to
a csv file then import it into Exchange. 
I would like to import it into a new address book so I will have one for the
internal and one for the external notes addresses which is what is in
question.

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:35 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book


I believe the easiest and most comprehensive way to bring the Notes Address
Book into Exchange is to connect it via the Exchange Connector for Lotus
Notes.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MH
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 10:03 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Secondary Address Book

I am having problem locating any info on creating a secondary address book.
We have just moved our company off of Lotus R5 and I need to import the old
notes address book in to a new address book in exchange but am finding it
hard to find any how to do articles. Can anyone help or point me in the
right direction ?? I am using Exchange 2k standard and Windows 2000 Server.

Thanks
MH

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RE: Secondary Address Book

2003-07-29 Thread Martin Blackstone
Are these external addresses like sales contacts or something? Not actually
users on the system? 

-Original Message-
From: mh exch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 10:54 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book

Because the Notes Server is going to go away when I can get the address book
issue resolved. I was hoping to beable to create another address book and
then import the notes addresses into it. We have a few Notes serveres around
the company but we are in the process of phaseing them out. So I don't want
to have anything left over from the notes world.

MH

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:51 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book


Why wouldn't you want to keep it connected to Notes?

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mh exch
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 10:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book

If I do use the notes connector does this mean it is a one time import or do
I have to keep it connected to the notes box ?? I did try earlier in the
process to use the connector but was have a lot of issues with it since the
notes was being hosted buy a AS/400 so we didn't import anything in.
Wondering  about using a export of the notes address book then puting it to
a csv file then import it into Exchange. 
I would like to import it into a new address book so I will have one for the
internal and one for the external notes addresses which is what is in
question.

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:35 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book


I believe the easiest and most comprehensive way to bring the Notes Address
Book into Exchange is to connect it via the Exchange Connector for Lotus
Notes.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MH
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 10:03 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Secondary Address Book

I am having problem locating any info on creating a secondary address book.
We have just moved our company off of Lotus R5 and I need to import the old
notes address book in to a new address book in exchange but am finding it
hard to find any how to do articles. Can anyone help or point me in the
right direction ?? I am using Exchange 2k standard and Windows 2000 Server.

Thanks
MH

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RE: Secondary Address Book

2003-07-29 Thread mh exch
That is correct the addresses are from outside sales, outside sister companies that 
have been populated in the Notes address book.
MH

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:54 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book


Are these external addresses like sales contacts or something? Not actually
users on the system? 

-Original Message-
From: mh exch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 10:54 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book

Because the Notes Server is going to go away when I can get the address book
issue resolved. I was hoping to beable to create another address book and
then import the notes addresses into it. We have a few Notes serveres around
the company but we are in the process of phaseing them out. So I don't want
to have anything left over from the notes world.

MH

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:51 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book


Why wouldn't you want to keep it connected to Notes?

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mh exch
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 10:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book

If I do use the notes connector does this mean it is a one time import or do
I have to keep it connected to the notes box ?? I did try earlier in the
process to use the connector but was have a lot of issues with it since the
notes was being hosted buy a AS/400 so we didn't import anything in.
Wondering  about using a export of the notes address book then puting it to
a csv file then import it into Exchange. 
I would like to import it into a new address book so I will have one for the
internal and one for the external notes addresses which is what is in
question.

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:35 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book


I believe the easiest and most comprehensive way to bring the Notes Address
Book into Exchange is to connect it via the Exchange Connector for Lotus
Notes.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MH
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 10:03 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Secondary Address Book

I am having problem locating any info on creating a secondary address book.
We have just moved our company off of Lotus R5 and I need to import the old
notes address book in to a new address book in exchange but am finding it
hard to find any how to do articles. Can anyone help or point me in the
right direction ?? I am using Exchange 2k standard and Windows 2000 Server.

Thanks
MH

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RE: Secondary Address Book

2003-07-29 Thread Martin Blackstone
OK, so you could export them from Notes (however you do that), then import
them into a PF in Exchange. 

-Original Message-
From: mh exch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:02 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book

That is correct the addresses are from outside sales, outside sister
companies that have been populated in the Notes address book.
MH

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:54 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book


Are these external addresses like sales contacts or something? Not actually
users on the system? 

-Original Message-
From: mh exch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 10:54 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book

Because the Notes Server is going to go away when I can get the address book
issue resolved. I was hoping to beable to create another address book and
then import the notes addresses into it. We have a few Notes serveres around
the company but we are in the process of phaseing them out. So I don't want
to have anything left over from the notes world.

MH

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:51 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book


Why wouldn't you want to keep it connected to Notes?

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mh exch
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 10:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book

If I do use the notes connector does this mean it is a one time import or do
I have to keep it connected to the notes box ?? I did try earlier in the
process to use the connector but was have a lot of issues with it since the
notes was being hosted buy a AS/400 so we didn't import anything in.
Wondering  about using a export of the notes address book then puting it to
a csv file then import it into Exchange. 
I would like to import it into a new address book so I will have one for the
internal and one for the external notes addresses which is what is in
question.

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:35 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book


I believe the easiest and most comprehensive way to bring the Notes Address
Book into Exchange is to connect it via the Exchange Connector for Lotus
Notes.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MH
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 10:03 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Secondary Address Book

I am having problem locating any info on creating a secondary address book.
We have just moved our company off of Lotus R5 and I need to import the old
notes address book in to a new address book in exchange but am finding it
hard to find any how to do articles. Can anyone help or point me in the
right direction ?? I am using Exchange 2k standard and Windows 2000 Server.

Thanks
MH

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RE: Reccomended Black Lists

2003-07-29 Thread Fred
...0%...I am using SpamAssassin along with Besian on a Linux box as well
as Trend Emanager.  Don't get me wrong, subscribing to a Black List alone
could have a major impact on the outcome of SPAM blocks and actual valid
mail.  We have our messaging system learning the points, addresses, etc as
well as the X-SPAM STATUS.

I too agree to some extent of other re:'s, and had a few dealing's with
them myself, but as the question was just about Recommended Black Lists
and not how to make use of you topology to prevent SPAM.

 Hmmm... And what percentage of those are valid business email?
 
 I concur with AB's assessment that they are mostly run by vigilantes. There
 is a fairly famous exchange on this list about a year or two ago, by Jim
 Schwartz, Paul Cumming, et al, concerning Dr, Cumming's own RBL. I think its
 required reading for anyone considering RBL usage.
 
 --
 Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
 Sr. Systems Administrator
 Inovis Inc.
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Fred [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:48 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Reccomended Black Lists
  
  
  I disagree with most of it, however, blacklist has been more 
  valuable than
  not.  Here's what I use:
  
  -SPAM blocked today-
   1423 - relays.osirusoft.com
218 - dnsbl.njabl.org
 36 - relays.ordb.org
  Total Inbound Mail
 2599
  
  
  
   I find that most of them are run by vigilantes. There is no 
  accountability
   for these lists. They can do as they please and most often 
  do. I'm not going
   to trust my business  email to someone like that.
   
   Since you have no control over what gets blocked, you could 
  find yourself
   missing valuable business email without knowing it.  
   
   -Original Message-
   From: Aaron Brasslett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 8:35 AM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: RE: Reccomended Black Lists
   
   Really?  Do you find them to be inaccurate?
   
   -Original Message-
   From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:32 AM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: RE: Reccomended Black Lists
   
   
   None 
   
   -Original Message-
   From: Aaron Brasslett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 8:33 AM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: Reccomended Black Lists
   
   Hi all,
   
   I'm planning to install spam blocking software soon and I 
  was wonder what
   mailhost black lists you all recommend.  
   
   Thanks.
   
   Aaron
   
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Re: Permission Issue?

2003-07-29 Thread Chris Scharff
Sounds like an interesting question answer in the lab. Let us know how that
turns out will ya?

On 07/29/03 08:11, Scott Force [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Windows NT4.0/6a domain running Exchange 5.5/4 single site.  User is
 primary windows NT account for his mailbox.  User gets fired, I disable
 his NT account.  If the user was connected through a VPN at 10:00AM and
 had his Outlook XP client open, then at 11:00AM I disabled his account and
 he never closed the application or disconnected from his VPN connection,
 would he still be able to send e-mail?  TIA, Scott


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Re: Exchange Bandwidth

2003-07-29 Thread Chris Scharff
lol... The person complaining the loudest in your organization about this is
surfing porn. Set up a network monitor and I'm sure you'll find that by
firing all the porn surfing malcontents, you'll have plenty of available for
legitimate business purposes.

On 07/29/03 00:34, Paul Thiemann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Can the bandwidth that exchange uses be changed. When large attachments
 are sent the internet suffers too much. We use Winnt4.0, exchange 5.5, SBS
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RE: Secondary Address Book

2003-07-29 Thread mh exch
So I would create a public folder with the name of the address book I want then import 
them into the public folder ? 
MH

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 12:02 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book


OK, so you could export them from Notes (however you do that), then import
them into a PF in Exchange. 

-Original Message-
From: mh exch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:02 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book

That is correct the addresses are from outside sales, outside sister
companies that have been populated in the Notes address book.
MH

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:54 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book


Are these external addresses like sales contacts or something? Not actually
users on the system? 

-Original Message-
From: mh exch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 10:54 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book

Because the Notes Server is going to go away when I can get the address book
issue resolved. I was hoping to beable to create another address book and
then import the notes addresses into it. We have a few Notes serveres around
the company but we are in the process of phaseing them out. So I don't want
to have anything left over from the notes world.

MH

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:51 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book


Why wouldn't you want to keep it connected to Notes?

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mh exch
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 10:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book

If I do use the notes connector does this mean it is a one time import or do
I have to keep it connected to the notes box ?? I did try earlier in the
process to use the connector but was have a lot of issues with it since the
notes was being hosted buy a AS/400 so we didn't import anything in.
Wondering  about using a export of the notes address book then puting it to
a csv file then import it into Exchange. 
I would like to import it into a new address book so I will have one for the
internal and one for the external notes addresses which is what is in
question.

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:35 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book


I believe the easiest and most comprehensive way to bring the Notes Address
Book into Exchange is to connect it via the Exchange Connector for Lotus
Notes.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MH
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 10:03 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Secondary Address Book

I am having problem locating any info on creating a secondary address book.
We have just moved our company off of Lotus R5 and I need to import the old
notes address book in to a new address book in exchange but am finding it
hard to find any how to do articles. Can anyone help or point me in the
right direction ?? I am using Exchange 2k standard and Windows 2000 Server.

Thanks
MH

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RE: Secondary Address Book

2003-07-29 Thread Bowles, John (OIG/OMP)
You got it!

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OIG/HHS
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-Original Message-
From: mh exch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 2:12 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book


So I would create a public folder with the name of the address book I want then import 
them into the public folder ? 
MH

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 12:02 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book


OK, so you could export them from Notes (however you do that), then import
them into a PF in Exchange. 

-Original Message-
From: mh exch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:02 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book

That is correct the addresses are from outside sales, outside sister
companies that have been populated in the Notes address book.
MH

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:54 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book


Are these external addresses like sales contacts or something? Not actually
users on the system? 

-Original Message-
From: mh exch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 10:54 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book

Because the Notes Server is going to go away when I can get the address book
issue resolved. I was hoping to beable to create another address book and
then import the notes addresses into it. We have a few Notes serveres around
the company but we are in the process of phaseing them out. So I don't want
to have anything left over from the notes world.

MH

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:51 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book


Why wouldn't you want to keep it connected to Notes?

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mh exch
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 10:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book

If I do use the notes connector does this mean it is a one time import or do
I have to keep it connected to the notes box ?? I did try earlier in the
process to use the connector but was have a lot of issues with it since the
notes was being hosted buy a AS/400 so we didn't import anything in.
Wondering  about using a export of the notes address book then puting it to
a csv file then import it into Exchange. 
I would like to import it into a new address book so I will have one for the
internal and one for the external notes addresses which is what is in
question.

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:35 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book


I believe the easiest and most comprehensive way to bring the Notes Address
Book into Exchange is to connect it via the Exchange Connector for Lotus
Notes.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MH
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 10:03 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Secondary Address Book

I am having problem locating any info on creating a secondary address book.
We have just moved our company off of Lotus R5 and I need to import the old
notes address book in to a new address book in exchange but am finding it
hard to find any how to do articles. Can anyone help or point me in the
right direction ?? I am using Exchange 2k standard and Windows 2000 Server.

Thanks
MH

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RE: Secondary Address Book

2003-07-29 Thread Martin Blackstone
Sure 

-Original Message-
From: mh exch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:12 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book

So I would create a public folder with the name of the address book I want
then import them into the public folder ? 
MH

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 12:02 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book


OK, so you could export them from Notes (however you do that), then import
them into a PF in Exchange. 

-Original Message-
From: mh exch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:02 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book

That is correct the addresses are from outside sales, outside sister
companies that have been populated in the Notes address book.
MH

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:54 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book


Are these external addresses like sales contacts or something? Not actually
users on the system? 

-Original Message-
From: mh exch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 10:54 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book

Because the Notes Server is going to go away when I can get the address book
issue resolved. I was hoping to beable to create another address book and
then import the notes addresses into it. We have a few Notes serveres around
the company but we are in the process of phaseing them out. So I don't want
to have anything left over from the notes world.

MH

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:51 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book


Why wouldn't you want to keep it connected to Notes?

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mh exch
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 10:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book

If I do use the notes connector does this mean it is a one time import or do
I have to keep it connected to the notes box ?? I did try earlier in the
process to use the connector but was have a lot of issues with it since the
notes was being hosted buy a AS/400 so we didn't import anything in.
Wondering  about using a export of the notes address book then puting it to
a csv file then import it into Exchange. 
I would like to import it into a new address book so I will have one for the
internal and one for the external notes addresses which is what is in
question.

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:35 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book


I believe the easiest and most comprehensive way to bring the Notes Address
Book into Exchange is to connect it via the Exchange Connector for Lotus
Notes.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MH
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 10:03 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Secondary Address Book

I am having problem locating any info on creating a secondary address book.
We have just moved our company off of Lotus R5 and I need to import the old
notes address book in to a new address book in exchange but am finding it
hard to find any how to do articles. Can anyone help or point me in the
right direction ?? I am using Exchange 2k standard and Windows 2000 Server.

Thanks
MH

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Re: Reccomended Black Lists

2003-07-29 Thread Chris Scharff
ROFLMAO

On 07/29/03 10:34, Aaron Brasslett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Really?  Do you find them to be inaccurate?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:32 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Reccomended Black Lists
 
 
 None 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Aaron Brasslett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 8:33 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Reccomended Black Lists
 
 Hi all,
 
 I'm planning to install spam blocking software soon and I was wonder what
 mailhost black lists you all recommend.
 
 Thanks.
 
 Aaron


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RE: Reccomended Black Lists

2003-07-29 Thread Aaron Brasslett
Thanks everyone for your valued opinions and recommendations of black lists.
I'm going to give black lists a try and use a tag-only option initially.  If
I get reports of false positives, I'll know that black lists will not work
for me.

Aaron

-Original Message-
From: Fred [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 2:06 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Reccomended Black Lists


...0%...I am using SpamAssassin along with Besian on a Linux box as well as
Trend Emanager.  Don't get me wrong, subscribing to a Black List alone could
have a major impact on the outcome of SPAM blocks and actual valid mail.  We
have our messaging system learning the points, addresses, etc as well as the
X-SPAM STATUS.

I too agree to some extent of other re:'s, and had a few dealing's with them
myself, but as the question was just about Recommended Black Lists and not
how to make use of you topology to prevent SPAM.

 Hmmm... And what percentage of those are valid business email?
 
 I concur with AB's assessment that they are mostly run by vigilantes. 
 There is a fairly famous exchange on this list about a year or two 
 ago, by Jim Schwartz, Paul Cumming, et al, concerning Dr, Cumming's 
 own RBL. I think its required reading for anyone considering RBL 
 usage.
 
 --
 Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
 Sr. Systems Administrator
 Inovis Inc.
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Fred [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:48 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Reccomended Black Lists
  
  
  I disagree with most of it, however, blacklist has been more
  valuable than
  not.  Here's what I use:
  
  -SPAM blocked today-
   1423 - relays.osirusoft.com
218 - dnsbl.njabl.org
 36 - relays.ordb.org
  Total Inbound Mail
 2599
  
  
  
   I find that most of them are run by vigilantes. There is no
  accountability
   for these lists. They can do as they please and most often
  do. I'm not going
   to trust my business  email to someone like that.
   
   Since you have no control over what gets blocked, you could
  find yourself
   missing valuable business email without knowing it.
   
   -Original Message-
   From: Aaron Brasslett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 8:35 AM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: RE: Reccomended Black Lists
   
   Really?  Do you find them to be inaccurate?
   
   -Original Message-
   From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:32 AM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: RE: Reccomended Black Lists
   
   
   None
   
   -Original Message-
   From: Aaron Brasslett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 8:33 AM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: Reccomended Black Lists
   
   Hi all,
   
   I'm planning to install spam blocking software soon and I
  was wonder what
   mailhost black lists you all recommend.
   
   Thanks.
   
   Aaron
   
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Zombie ACL's

2003-07-29 Thread Carmila Fresco
 
We're getting this kind of warning on 3 of our E2K servers.  The warning
has different aliases in the x500 address though.  I saw this KB
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;318549 but it
applies to SP1  SP2.  We're on SP3.  Tried it anyways but it didn't fix
anything.
 
Does anyone have any other ideas on how to fix this?
 
Thanks,
Carmila
 

Source: MSExchangeIS Mailbox
Category: General
Event ID: 9551
 
An error occurred while upgrading the ACL on folder [MBX:Mailbox Store
(NYMAIL)]/Journal located on database Storage group 1\Store 1A.

The Information Store was unable to convert the security for /O=BABCOCK
 BROWN/OU=BBIMAIL/CN=RECIPIENTS/CN=CSHELBY into a Windows 2000 Security
Identifier.

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RE: Secondary Address Book

2003-07-29 Thread mh exch
Once I have created and set permissions on the PF how do I import the csv file into 
the PF ??

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 12:11 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book


Sure 

-Original Message-
From: mh exch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:12 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book

So I would create a public folder with the name of the address book I want
then import them into the public folder ? 
MH

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 12:02 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book


OK, so you could export them from Notes (however you do that), then import
them into a PF in Exchange. 

-Original Message-
From: mh exch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:02 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book

That is correct the addresses are from outside sales, outside sister
companies that have been populated in the Notes address book.
MH

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:54 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book


Are these external addresses like sales contacts or something? Not actually
users on the system? 

-Original Message-
From: mh exch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 10:54 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book

Because the Notes Server is going to go away when I can get the address book
issue resolved. I was hoping to beable to create another address book and
then import the notes addresses into it. We have a few Notes serveres around
the company but we are in the process of phaseing them out. So I don't want
to have anything left over from the notes world.

MH

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:51 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book


Why wouldn't you want to keep it connected to Notes?

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mh exch
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 10:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book

If I do use the notes connector does this mean it is a one time import or do
I have to keep it connected to the notes box ?? I did try earlier in the
process to use the connector but was have a lot of issues with it since the
notes was being hosted buy a AS/400 so we didn't import anything in.
Wondering  about using a export of the notes address book then puting it to
a csv file then import it into Exchange. 
I would like to import it into a new address book so I will have one for the
internal and one for the external notes addresses which is what is in
question.

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:35 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book


I believe the easiest and most comprehensive way to bring the Notes Address
Book into Exchange is to connect it via the Exchange Connector for Lotus
Notes.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MH
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 10:03 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Secondary Address Book

I am having problem locating any info on creating a secondary address book.
We have just moved our company off of Lotus R5 and I need to import the old
notes address book in to a new address book in exchange but am finding it
hard to find any how to do articles. Can anyone help or point me in the
right direction ?? I am using Exchange 2k standard and Windows 2000 Server.

Thanks
MH

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RE: Secondary Address Book

2003-07-29 Thread Bowles, John (OIG/OMP)
If you already have the Notes Connector setup you can just add the contacts you want 
to the Notes Connector (if they are in a seperate directory then the mass population) 
and then they will just import into a directory that you create on AD.  I don't know 
if you said you were on AD or not.  But just giving you another option.

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-Original Message-
From: mh exch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 2:22 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book


Once I have created and set permissions on the PF how do I import the csv file into 
the PF ??

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 12:11 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book


Sure 

-Original Message-
From: mh exch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:12 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book

So I would create a public folder with the name of the address book I want
then import them into the public folder ? 
MH

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 12:02 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book


OK, so you could export them from Notes (however you do that), then import
them into a PF in Exchange. 

-Original Message-
From: mh exch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:02 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book

That is correct the addresses are from outside sales, outside sister
companies that have been populated in the Notes address book.
MH

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:54 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book


Are these external addresses like sales contacts or something? Not actually
users on the system? 

-Original Message-
From: mh exch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 10:54 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book

Because the Notes Server is going to go away when I can get the address book
issue resolved. I was hoping to beable to create another address book and
then import the notes addresses into it. We have a few Notes serveres around
the company but we are in the process of phaseing them out. So I don't want
to have anything left over from the notes world.

MH

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:51 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book


Why wouldn't you want to keep it connected to Notes?

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mh exch
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 10:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book

If I do use the notes connector does this mean it is a one time import or do
I have to keep it connected to the notes box ?? I did try earlier in the
process to use the connector but was have a lot of issues with it since the
notes was being hosted buy a AS/400 so we didn't import anything in.
Wondering  about using a export of the notes address book then puting it to
a csv file then import it into Exchange. 
I would like to import it into a new address book so I will have one for the
internal and one for the external notes addresses which is what is in
question.

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:35 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book


I believe the easiest and most comprehensive way to bring the Notes Address
Book into Exchange is to connect it via the Exchange Connector for Lotus
Notes.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MH
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 10:03 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Secondary Address Book

I am having problem locating any info on creating a secondary address book.
We have just moved our company off of Lotus R5 and I need to import the old
notes address book in to a new address book in exchange but am finding it
hard to find any how to do articles. Can anyone help or point me in the
right direction ?? I am using Exchange 2k standard and Windows 2000 Server.

Thanks
MH

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RE: Secondary Address Book

2003-07-29 Thread Martin Blackstone
Probably the easiest way would be to do it via the import/export tool in
Outlook. 

-Original Message-
From: mh exch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:22 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book

Once I have created and set permissions on the PF how do I import the csv
file into the PF ??

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 12:11 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book


Sure 

-Original Message-
From: mh exch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:12 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book

So I would create a public folder with the name of the address book I want
then import them into the public folder ? 
MH

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 12:02 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book


OK, so you could export them from Notes (however you do that), then import
them into a PF in Exchange. 

-Original Message-
From: mh exch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:02 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book

That is correct the addresses are from outside sales, outside sister
companies that have been populated in the Notes address book.
MH

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:54 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book


Are these external addresses like sales contacts or something? Not actually
users on the system? 

-Original Message-
From: mh exch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 10:54 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book

Because the Notes Server is going to go away when I can get the address book
issue resolved. I was hoping to beable to create another address book and
then import the notes addresses into it. We have a few Notes serveres around
the company but we are in the process of phaseing them out. So I don't want
to have anything left over from the notes world.

MH

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:51 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book


Why wouldn't you want to keep it connected to Notes?

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mh exch
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 10:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book

If I do use the notes connector does this mean it is a one time import or do
I have to keep it connected to the notes box ?? I did try earlier in the
process to use the connector but was have a lot of issues with it since the
notes was being hosted buy a AS/400 so we didn't import anything in.
Wondering  about using a export of the notes address book then puting it to
a csv file then import it into Exchange. 
I would like to import it into a new address book so I will have one for the
internal and one for the external notes addresses which is what is in
question.

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:35 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book


I believe the easiest and most comprehensive way to bring the Notes Address
Book into Exchange is to connect it via the Exchange Connector for Lotus
Notes.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MH
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 10:03 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Secondary Address Book

I am having problem locating any info on creating a secondary address book.
We have just moved our company off of Lotus R5 and I need to import the old
notes address book in to a new address book in exchange but am finding it
hard to find any how to do articles. Can anyone help or point me in the
right direction ?? I am using Exchange 2k standard and Windows 2000 Server.

Thanks
MH

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RE: Zombie ACL's

2003-07-29 Thread Ed Crowley
You have to find them and remove them.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carmila Fresco
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:19 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Zombie ACL's

 
We're getting this kind of warning on 3 of our E2K servers.  The warning has
different aliases in the x500 address though.  I saw this KB
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;318549 but it
applies to SP1  SP2.  We're on SP3.  Tried it anyways but it didn't fix
anything.
 
Does anyone have any other ideas on how to fix this?
 
Thanks,
Carmila
 

Source: MSExchangeIS Mailbox
Category: General
Event ID: 9551
 
An error occurred while upgrading the ACL on folder [MBX:Mailbox Store
(NYMAIL)]/Journal located on database Storage group 1\Store 1A.

The Information Store was unable to convert the security for /O=BABCOCK 
BROWN/OU=BBIMAIL/CN=RECIPIENTS/CN=CSHELBY into a Windows 2000 Security
Identifier.

It is possible that this is caused by latency in the Active Directory
Service, if so, wait until the user record is replicated to the Active
Directory and attempt to access the folder (it will be upgraded in place).
If the specified object does NOT get replicated to the Active Directory, use
the Microsoft Exchange System Manager or the Exchange Client to update the
ACL on the folder manually.

The access rights in the ACE for this DN were 0x0. 






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RE: OWA hangs for minutes at NT login

2003-07-29 Thread Tony Hlabse
Sounds like a performance issue. Did you add anything new to the box or has 
it always authenticate very slowly

From: Sean Brandt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: OWA hangs for minutes at NT login
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 10:13:34 -0700
It happens everytime anyone logs on. It may be 30 seconds to a minute faster
at different times but pretty much at all times.
-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 10:09 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: OWA hangs for minutes at NT login
Does this happen when a user olgs on for the first time using OWA or
everytime they login into OWA
From: Sean Brandt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: OWA hangs for minutes at NT login
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 10:03:35 -0700
Hi Everyone,
I have a Windows 2000 member server running IIS 5.0 and OWA 5.5. Recently,
when accessing webmail the server will hang for up to 3-5 minutes after
entering NT domain credentials. It eventually gets to the mailbox. I checked
the directory security for the website in IIS 5.0 and it is set to
anonymous and clear text. Does anyone know of anything that could be
causing this?
Thanks,
Sean
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RE: OWA hangs for minutes at NT login

2003-07-29 Thread Sean Brandt
Simple restart has cured this for the moment...

-Original Message-
From: Sean Brandt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 10:04 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: OWA hangs for minutes at NT login



Hi Everyone,
I have a Windows 2000 member server running IIS 5.0 and OWA 5.5. Recently,
when accessing webmail the server will hang for up to 3-5 minutes after
entering NT domain credentials. It eventually gets to the mailbox. 
I checked the directory security for the website in IIS 5.0 and it is set to
anonymous and clear text. 
Does anyone know of anything that could be causing this? 

Thanks,
Sean

~~
Sean Brandt, MCSE
Systems Engineer
Lonely Planet Publications, USA


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RE: Zombie ACL's

2003-07-29 Thread Carmila Fresco
Ouch...

That's like finding a needle in the hay stack! :)


-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:28 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

You have to find them and remove them.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carmila Fresco
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:19 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Zombie ACL's

 
We're getting this kind of warning on 3 of our E2K servers.  The warning
has different aliases in the x500 address though.  I saw this KB
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;318549 but it
applies to SP1  SP2.  We're on SP3.  Tried it anyways but it didn't fix
anything.
 
Does anyone have any other ideas on how to fix this?
 
Thanks,
Carmila
 

Source: MSExchangeIS Mailbox
Category: General
Event ID: 9551
 
An error occurred while upgrading the ACL on folder [MBX:Mailbox Store
(NYMAIL)]/Journal located on database Storage group 1\Store 1A.

The Information Store was unable to convert the security for /O=BABCOCK
 BROWN/OU=BBIMAIL/CN=RECIPIENTS/CN=CSHELBY into a Windows 2000 Security
Identifier.

It is possible that this is caused by latency in the Active Directory
Service, if so, wait until the user record is replicated to the Active
Directory and attempt to access the folder (it will be upgraded in
place).
If the specified object does NOT get replicated to the Active Directory,
use the Microsoft Exchange System Manager or the Exchange Client to
update the ACL on the folder manually.

The access rights in the ACE for this DN were 0x0. 






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RE: Secondary Address Book

2003-07-29 Thread Blunt, James H (Jim)
Actually, your EASIEST option if it was Ex5.5, would be to export them out
of Notes to a .csv file, massage the .csv file so that you have them all set
as Custom Recipients, then import them all to the GAL of the Exchange Server
via the Tools / Directory Import... function.  Whether the process is the
same in E2k, I can't say.

However, due to the fact that the admins for our Ex5.5 org won't let me add
22,000 CR to the GAL, I have to do this for the GAL that is exported as a
.csv from our parent company.

So far, the only solution I have found to do this is to use File / Import
and export... / Import from another program or file and then choose the CSV
(windows) option to import them to the contacts folder of the mailbox.  Once
you've done that, move all the contacts to the PF.  It's a PIA, but even
after asking this list a couple of times, I haven't found an easier way to
do it...Outlook doesn't allow you to import directly to a PF.

One thing that does help the process to go faster, is to empty the contacts
folder of the mailbox first and then use the option to allow it to create
duplicates.  Otherwise, it's going to compare every contact it imports
against what is already there.  As you get more and more contacts in the
folder, it's going to go slower.  If you tell it not to create duplicates,
once it does the comparison, it then has to move the old one to the Deleted
Items folder, which further slows down the process.

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:23 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book


Probably the easiest way would be to do it via the import/export tool in
Outlook. 

-Original Message-
From: mh exch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:22 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book

Once I have created and set permissions on the PF how do I import the csv
file into the PF ??

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 12:11 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book


Sure 

-Original Message-
From: mh exch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:12 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book

So I would create a public folder with the name of the address book I want
then import them into the public folder ? 
MH

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 12:02 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book


OK, so you could export them from Notes (however you do that), then import
them into a PF in Exchange. 

-Original Message-
From: mh exch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:02 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book

That is correct the addresses are from outside sales, outside sister
companies that have been populated in the Notes address book. MH

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:54 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book


Are these external addresses like sales contacts or something? Not actually
users on the system? 

-Original Message-
From: mh exch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 10:54 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book

Because the Notes Server is going to go away when I can get the address book
issue resolved. I was hoping to beable to create another address book and
then import the notes addresses into it. We have a few Notes serveres around
the company but we are in the process of phaseing them out. So I don't want
to have anything left over from the notes world.

MH

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:51 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book


Why wouldn't you want to keep it connected to Notes?

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mh exch
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 10:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book

If I do use the notes connector does this mean it is a one time import or do
I have to keep it connected to the notes box ?? I did try earlier in the
process to use the connector but was have a lot of issues with it since the
notes was being hosted buy a AS/400 so we didn't import anything in.
Wondering  about using a export of the notes address book then puting it to
a csv file then import it into Exchange. 
I would like to import it into a new address book so I will have one for the
internal and one for the external notes addresses which is what is in
question.

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley 

RE: Zombie ACL's

2003-07-29 Thread Ed Crowley
It shouldn't be.  Isn't the mailbox with the bad ACL pretty clearly listed
in the event log message?

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carmila Fresco
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:35 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Zombie ACL's

Ouch...

That's like finding a needle in the hay stack! :)


-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:28 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

You have to find them and remove them.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carmila Fresco
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:19 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Zombie ACL's

 
We're getting this kind of warning on 3 of our E2K servers.  The warning has
different aliases in the x500 address though.  I saw this KB
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;318549 but it
applies to SP1  SP2.  We're on SP3.  Tried it anyways but it didn't fix
anything.
 
Does anyone have any other ideas on how to fix this?
 
Thanks,
Carmila
 

Source: MSExchangeIS Mailbox
Category: General
Event ID: 9551
 
An error occurred while upgrading the ACL on folder [MBX:Mailbox Store
(NYMAIL)]/Journal located on database Storage group 1\Store 1A.

The Information Store was unable to convert the security for /O=BABCOCK 
BROWN/OU=BBIMAIL/CN=RECIPIENTS/CN=CSHELBY into a Windows 2000 Security
Identifier.

It is possible that this is caused by latency in the Active Directory
Service, if so, wait until the user record is replicated to the Active
Directory and attempt to access the folder (it will be upgraded in place).
If the specified object does NOT get replicated to the Active Directory, use
the Microsoft Exchange System Manager or the Exchange Client to update the
ACL on the folder manually.

The access rights in the ACE for this DN were 0x0. 






This email message may contain information that is confidential and
proprietary to Babcock  Brown or a third party.  If you are not the
intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy the original and
any copies of the original message.  Babcock  Brown takes measures to
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RE: Zombie ACL's

2003-07-29 Thread Carmila Fresco
Not really.  It just says:

An error occurred while upgrading the ACL on folder [MBX:Mailbox Store
(NYMAIL)]/Journal located on database Storage group 1\Store 1A.


-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:48 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

It shouldn't be.  Isn't the mailbox with the bad ACL pretty clearly
listed in the event log message?

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carmila Fresco
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:35 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Zombie ACL's

Ouch...

That's like finding a needle in the hay stack! :)


-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:28 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

You have to find them and remove them.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carmila Fresco
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:19 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Zombie ACL's

 
We're getting this kind of warning on 3 of our E2K servers.  The warning
has different aliases in the x500 address though.  I saw this KB
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;318549 but it
applies to SP1  SP2.  We're on SP3.  Tried it anyways but it didn't fix
anything.
 
Does anyone have any other ideas on how to fix this?
 
Thanks,
Carmila
 

Source: MSExchangeIS Mailbox
Category: General
Event ID: 9551
 
An error occurred while upgrading the ACL on folder [MBX:Mailbox Store
(NYMAIL)]/Journal located on database Storage group 1\Store 1A.

The Information Store was unable to convert the security for /O=BABCOCK
 BROWN/OU=BBIMAIL/CN=RECIPIENTS/CN=CSHELBY into a Windows 2000 Security
Identifier.

It is possible that this is caused by latency in the Active Directory
Service, if so, wait until the user record is replicated to the Active
Directory and attempt to access the folder (it will be upgraded in
place).
If the specified object does NOT get replicated to the Active Directory,
use the Microsoft Exchange System Manager or the Exchange Client to
update the ACL on the folder manually.

The access rights in the ACE for this DN were 0x0. 






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RE: Zombie ACL's

2003-07-29 Thread Petschow, Jeff
You have to find the mailbox and remove the permissions for Journal for this
zombie user. I've had these a few times during our migration. When I see it
in the log I first see if I can figure out which department that person used
to work for and go and check the permissions of his former co-workers and
that usually locates the offending mailbox. Usually takes less then 15
minutes to find.

Jeff


 -Original Message-
 From: Carmila Fresco [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 1:19 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Zombie ACL's
 
 
  
 We're getting this kind of warning on 3 of our E2K servers.  
 The warning
 has different aliases in the x500 address though.  I saw this KB
 http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;318549 but it
 applies to SP1  SP2.  We're on SP3.  Tried it anyways but it 
 didn't fix
 anything.
  
 Does anyone have any other ideas on how to fix this?
  
 Thanks,
 Carmila
  
 --
 --
 Source: MSExchangeIS Mailbox
 Category: General
 Event ID: 9551
  
 An error occurred while upgrading the ACL on folder [MBX:Mailbox Store
 (NYMAIL)]/Journal located on database Storage group 1\Store 1A.
 
 The Information Store was unable to convert the security for 
 /O=BABCOCK
  BROWN/OU=BBIMAIL/CN=RECIPIENTS/CN=CSHELBY into a Windows 
 2000 Security
 Identifier.
 
 It is possible that this is caused by latency in the Active Directory
 Service, if so, wait until the user record is replicated to the Active
 Directory and attempt to access the folder (it will be upgraded in
 place). If the specified object does NOT get replicated to the Active
 Directory, use the Microsoft Exchange System Manager or the Exchange
 Client to update the ACL on the folder manually.
 
 The access rights in the ACE for this DN were 0x0. 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 This email message may contain information that is 
 confidential and proprietary to Babcock  Brown or a third 
 party.  If you are not the intended recipient, please contact 
 the sender and destroy the original and any copies of the 
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 the content of its communications.  However, Babcock  Brown 
 cannot guarantee that email messages will not be intercepted 
 by third parties or that email messages will be free of 
 errors or viruses.
 
 
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RE: Zombie ACL's

2003-07-29 Thread Carmila Fresco
Thanks guys!  I'll start going through my list. 


-Original Message-
From: Petschow, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:54 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

You have to find the mailbox and remove the permissions for Journal for
this zombie user. I've had these a few times during our migration. When
I see it in the log I first see if I can figure out which department
that person used to work for and go and check the permissions of his
former co-workers and that usually locates the offending mailbox.
Usually takes less then 15 minutes to find.

Jeff


 -Original Message-
 From: Carmila Fresco [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 1:19 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Zombie ACL's
 
 
  
 We're getting this kind of warning on 3 of our E2K servers.  
 The warning
 has different aliases in the x500 address though.  I saw this KB
 http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;318549 but it 
 applies to SP1  SP2.  We're on SP3.  Tried it anyways but it didn't 
 fix anything.
  
 Does anyone have any other ideas on how to fix this?
  
 Thanks,
 Carmila
  
 --
 --
 Source: MSExchangeIS Mailbox
 Category: General
 Event ID: 9551
  
 An error occurred while upgrading the ACL on folder [MBX:Mailbox Store

 (NYMAIL)]/Journal located on database Storage group 1\Store 1A.
 
 The Information Store was unable to convert the security for 
 /O=BABCOCK  BROWN/OU=BBIMAIL/CN=RECIPIENTS/CN=CSHELBY into a Windows 
 2000 Security Identifier.
 
 It is possible that this is caused by latency in the Active Directory 
 Service, if so, wait until the user record is replicated to the Active

 Directory and attempt to access the folder (it will be upgraded in 
 place). If the specified object does NOT get replicated to the Active 
 Directory, use the Microsoft Exchange System Manager or the Exchange 
 Client to update the ACL on the folder manually.
 
 The access rights in the ACE for this DN were 0x0. 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 This email message may contain information that is confidential and 
 proprietary to Babcock  Brown or a third party.  If you are not the 
 intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy the original

 and any copies of the original message.  Babcock  Brown takes 
 measures to protect the content of its communications.  However, 
 Babcock  Brown cannot guarantee that email messages will not be 
 intercepted by third parties or that email messages will be free of 
 errors or viruses.
 
 
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RE: Zombie ACL's

2003-07-29 Thread Blunt, James H (Jim)
Carmila,

The offending mailbox is listed in the next line down in your error message:
The Information Store was unable to convert the security for /O=BABCOCK 
BROWN/OU=BBIMAIL/CN=RECIPIENTS/CN=CSHELBY into a Windows 2000 Security
Identifier.

In this case, it's the mailbox with an alias of CSHELBY.

-Original Message-
From: Carmila Fresco [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:49 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Zombie ACL's


Not really.  It just says:

An error occurred while upgrading the ACL on folder [MBX:Mailbox Store
(NYMAIL)]/Journal located on database Storage group 1\Store 1A.


-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:48 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

It shouldn't be.  Isn't the mailbox with the bad ACL pretty clearly listed
in the event log message?

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carmila Fresco
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:35 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Zombie ACL's

Ouch...

That's like finding a needle in the hay stack! :)


-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:28 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

You have to find them and remove them.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carmila Fresco
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:19 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Zombie ACL's

 
We're getting this kind of warning on 3 of our E2K servers.  The warning has
different aliases in the x500 address though.  I saw this KB
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;318549 but it
applies to SP1  SP2.  We're on SP3.  Tried it anyways but it didn't fix
anything.
 
Does anyone have any other ideas on how to fix this?
 
Thanks,
Carmila
 

Source: MSExchangeIS Mailbox
Category: General
Event ID: 9551
 
An error occurred while upgrading the ACL on folder [MBX:Mailbox Store
(NYMAIL)]/Journal located on database Storage group 1\Store 1A.

The Information Store was unable to convert the security for /O=BABCOCK 
BROWN/OU=BBIMAIL/CN=RECIPIENTS/CN=CSHELBY into a Windows 2000 Security
Identifier.

It is possible that this is caused by latency in the Active Directory
Service, if so, wait until the user record is replicated to the Active
Directory and attempt to access the folder (it will be upgraded in place).
If the specified object does NOT get replicated to the Active Directory, use
the Microsoft Exchange System Manager or the Exchange Client to update the
ACL on the folder manually.

The access rights in the ACE for this DN were 0x0. 






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RE: Zombie ACL's

2003-07-29 Thread Petschow, Jeff
This is not true. In this case CSHELBY is an account that no longer exists
but has permissions to someone's Jounal on store 1a.


Jeff


 -Original Message-
 From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 1:58 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Zombie ACL's
 
 
 Carmila,
 
 The offending mailbox is listed in the next line down in your 
 error message:
 The Information Store was unable to convert the security for 
 /O=BABCOCK 
 BROWN/OU=BBIMAIL/CN=RECIPIENTS/CN=CSHELBY into a Windows 2000 Security
 Identifier.
 
 In this case, it's the mailbox with an alias of CSHELBY.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Carmila Fresco [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:49 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Zombie ACL's
 
 
 Not really.  It just says:
 
 An error occurred while upgrading the ACL on folder [MBX:Mailbox Store
 (NYMAIL)]/Journal located on database Storage group 1\Store 1A.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:48 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 
 It shouldn't be.  Isn't the mailbox with the bad ACL pretty 
 clearly listed
 in the event log message?
 
 Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
 Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
 Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
 Carmila Fresco
 Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:35 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Zombie ACL's
 
 Ouch...
 
 That's like finding a needle in the hay stack! :)
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:28 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 
 You have to find them and remove them.
 
 Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
 Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
 Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
 Carmila Fresco
 Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:19 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Zombie ACL's
 
  
 We're getting this kind of warning on 3 of our E2K servers.  
 The warning has
 different aliases in the x500 address though.  I saw this KB
 http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;318549 but it
 applies to SP1  SP2.  We're on SP3.  Tried it anyways but it 
 didn't fix
 anything.
  
 Does anyone have any other ideas on how to fix this?
  
 Thanks,
 Carmila
  
 --
 --
 Source: MSExchangeIS Mailbox
 Category: General
 Event ID: 9551
  
 An error occurred while upgrading the ACL on folder [MBX:Mailbox Store
 (NYMAIL)]/Journal located on database Storage group 1\Store 1A.
 
 The Information Store was unable to convert the security for 
 /O=BABCOCK 
 BROWN/OU=BBIMAIL/CN=RECIPIENTS/CN=CSHELBY into a Windows 2000 Security
 Identifier.
 
 It is possible that this is caused by latency in the Active Directory
 Service, if so, wait until the user record is replicated to the Active
 Directory and attempt to access the folder (it will be 
 upgraded in place).
 If the specified object does NOT get replicated to the Active 
 Directory, use
 the Microsoft Exchange System Manager or the Exchange Client 
 to update the
 ACL on the folder manually.
 
 The access rights in the ACE for this DN were 0x0. 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 This email message may contain information that is confidential and
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 intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy the 
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RE: Zombie ACL's

2003-07-29 Thread Carmila Fresco
Jim,

CSHELBY is actually a user that has left even before we migrated to E2k.
She's had delegate permissions to a bunch of our users.  I just have to
figure out which users.


-Original Message-
From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:58 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

Carmila,

The offending mailbox is listed in the next line down in your error
message:
The Information Store was unable to convert the security for /O=BABCOCK
 BROWN/OU=BBIMAIL/CN=RECIPIENTS/CN=CSHELBY into a Windows 2000 Security
Identifier.

In this case, it's the mailbox with an alias of CSHELBY.

-Original Message-
From: Carmila Fresco [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:49 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Zombie ACL's


Not really.  It just says:

An error occurred while upgrading the ACL on folder [MBX:Mailbox Store
(NYMAIL)]/Journal located on database Storage group 1\Store 1A.


-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:48 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

It shouldn't be.  Isn't the mailbox with the bad ACL pretty clearly
listed
in the event log message?

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carmila Fresco
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:35 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Zombie ACL's

Ouch...

That's like finding a needle in the hay stack! :)


-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:28 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

You have to find them and remove them.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carmila Fresco
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:19 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Zombie ACL's

 
We're getting this kind of warning on 3 of our E2K servers.  The warning
has
different aliases in the x500 address though.  I saw this KB
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;318549 but it
applies to SP1  SP2.  We're on SP3.  Tried it anyways but it didn't fix
anything.
 
Does anyone have any other ideas on how to fix this?
 
Thanks,
Carmila
 

Source: MSExchangeIS Mailbox
Category: General
Event ID: 9551
 
An error occurred while upgrading the ACL on folder [MBX:Mailbox Store
(NYMAIL)]/Journal located on database Storage group 1\Store 1A.

The Information Store was unable to convert the security for /O=BABCOCK

BROWN/OU=BBIMAIL/CN=RECIPIENTS/CN=CSHELBY into a Windows 2000 Security
Identifier.

It is possible that this is caused by latency in the Active Directory
Service, if so, wait until the user record is replicated to the Active
Directory and attempt to access the folder (it will be upgraded in
place).
If the specified object does NOT get replicated to the Active Directory,
use
the Microsoft Exchange System Manager or the Exchange Client to update
the
ACL on the folder manually.

The access rights in the ACE for this DN were 0x0. 






This email message may contain information that is confidential and
proprietary to Babcock  Brown or a third party.  If you are not the
intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy the original
and
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RE: Zombie ACL's

2003-07-29 Thread Martin Blackstone
She had her hands in everyone's box huh? 

-Original Message-
From: Carmila Fresco [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 12:03 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Zombie ACL's

Jim,

CSHELBY is actually a user that has left even before we migrated to E2k.
She's had delegate permissions to a bunch of our users.  I just have to
figure out which users.


-Original Message-
From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:58 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

Carmila,

The offending mailbox is listed in the next line down in your error
message:
The Information Store was unable to convert the security for /O=BABCOCK
 BROWN/OU=BBIMAIL/CN=RECIPIENTS/CN=CSHELBY into a Windows 2000 Security
Identifier.

In this case, it's the mailbox with an alias of CSHELBY.

-Original Message-
From: Carmila Fresco [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:49 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Zombie ACL's


Not really.  It just says:

An error occurred while upgrading the ACL on folder [MBX:Mailbox Store
(NYMAIL)]/Journal located on database Storage group 1\Store 1A.


-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:48 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

It shouldn't be.  Isn't the mailbox with the bad ACL pretty clearly
listed
in the event log message?

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carmila Fresco
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:35 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Zombie ACL's

Ouch...

That's like finding a needle in the hay stack! :)


-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:28 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

You have to find them and remove them.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carmila Fresco
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:19 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Zombie ACL's

 
We're getting this kind of warning on 3 of our E2K servers.  The warning
has
different aliases in the x500 address though.  I saw this KB
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;318549 but it
applies to SP1  SP2.  We're on SP3.  Tried it anyways but it didn't fix
anything.
 
Does anyone have any other ideas on how to fix this?
 
Thanks,
Carmila
 

Source: MSExchangeIS Mailbox
Category: General
Event ID: 9551
 
An error occurred while upgrading the ACL on folder [MBX:Mailbox Store
(NYMAIL)]/Journal located on database Storage group 1\Store 1A.

The Information Store was unable to convert the security for /O=BABCOCK

BROWN/OU=BBIMAIL/CN=RECIPIENTS/CN=CSHELBY into a Windows 2000 Security
Identifier.

It is possible that this is caused by latency in the Active Directory
Service, if so, wait until the user record is replicated to the Active
Directory and attempt to access the folder (it will be upgraded in
place).
If the specified object does NOT get replicated to the Active Directory,
use
the Microsoft Exchange System Manager or the Exchange Client to update
the
ACL on the folder manually.

The access rights in the ACE for this DN were 0x0. 






This email message may contain information that is confidential and
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intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy the original
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RE: Zombie ACL's

2003-07-29 Thread Tony Hlabse
Never having done it, can this this be done with a asdiedit or ldap search?

From: Carmila Fresco [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Zombie ACL's
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 12:02:46 -0700
Jim,

CSHELBY is actually a user that has left even before we migrated to E2k.
She's had delegate permissions to a bunch of our users.  I just have to
figure out which users.
-Original Message-
From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:58 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Carmila,

The offending mailbox is listed in the next line down in your error
message:
The Information Store was unable to convert the security for /O=BABCOCK
 BROWN/OU=BBIMAIL/CN=RECIPIENTS/CN=CSHELBY into a Windows 2000 Security
Identifier.
In this case, it's the mailbox with an alias of CSHELBY.

-Original Message-
From: Carmila Fresco [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:49 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Zombie ACL's
Not really.  It just says:

An error occurred while upgrading the ACL on folder [MBX:Mailbox Store
(NYMAIL)]/Journal located on database Storage group 1\Store 1A.
-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:48 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
It shouldn't be.  Isn't the mailbox with the bad ACL pretty clearly
listed
in the event log message?
Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carmila Fresco
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:35 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Zombie ACL's
Ouch...

That's like finding a needle in the hay stack! :)

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:28 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
You have to find them and remove them.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carmila Fresco
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:19 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Zombie ACL's
We're getting this kind of warning on 3 of our E2K servers.  The warning
has
different aliases in the x500 address though.  I saw this KB
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;318549 but it
applies to SP1  SP2.  We're on SP3.  Tried it anyways but it didn't fix
anything.
Does anyone have any other ideas on how to fix this?

Thanks,
Carmila

Source: MSExchangeIS Mailbox
Category: General
Event ID: 9551
An error occurred while upgrading the ACL on folder [MBX:Mailbox Store
(NYMAIL)]/Journal located on database Storage group 1\Store 1A.
The Information Store was unable to convert the security for /O=BABCOCK

BROWN/OU=BBIMAIL/CN=RECIPIENTS/CN=CSHELBY into a Windows 2000 Security
Identifier.
It is possible that this is caused by latency in the Active Directory
Service, if so, wait until the user record is replicated to the Active
Directory and attempt to access the folder (it will be upgraded in
place).
If the specified object does NOT get replicated to the Active Directory,
use
the Microsoft Exchange System Manager or the Exchange Client to update
the
ACL on the folder manually.
The access rights in the ACE for this DN were 0x0.





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RE: Zombie ACL's

2003-07-29 Thread Woodruff, Michael
That would only show up if she was a delegate or such.  Explicit
permissions to folders will not show up there.   

-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 3:05 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Zombie ACL's

Never having done it, can this this be done with a asdiedit or ldap
search?


From: Carmila Fresco [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Zombie ACL's
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 12:02:46 -0700

Jim,

CSHELBY is actually a user that has left even before we migrated to E2k.
She's had delegate permissions to a bunch of our users.  I just have to
figure out which users.


-Original Message-
From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:58 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

Carmila,

The offending mailbox is listed in the next line down in your error
message:
The Information Store was unable to convert the security for /O=BABCOCK
 BROWN/OU=BBIMAIL/CN=RECIPIENTS/CN=CSHELBY into a Windows 2000 Security
Identifier.

In this case, it's the mailbox with an alias of CSHELBY.

-Original Message-
From: Carmila Fresco [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:49 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Zombie ACL's


Not really.  It just says:

An error occurred while upgrading the ACL on folder [MBX:Mailbox Store
(NYMAIL)]/Journal located on database Storage group 1\Store 1A.


-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:48 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

It shouldn't be.  Isn't the mailbox with the bad ACL pretty clearly
listed in the event log message?

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carmila Fresco
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:35 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Zombie ACL's

Ouch...

That's like finding a needle in the hay stack! :)


-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:28 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

You have to find them and remove them.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carmila Fresco
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:19 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Zombie ACL's


We're getting this kind of warning on 3 of our E2K servers.  The warning
has different aliases in the x500 address though.  I saw this KB
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;318549 but it
applies to SP1  SP2.  We're on SP3.  Tried it anyways but it didn't fix
anything.

Does anyone have any other ideas on how to fix this?

Thanks,
Carmila


Source: MSExchangeIS Mailbox
Category: General
Event ID: 9551

An error occurred while upgrading the ACL on folder [MBX:Mailbox Store
(NYMAIL)]/Journal located on database Storage group 1\Store 1A.

The Information Store was unable to convert the security for /O=BABCOCK
 BROWN/OU=BBIMAIL/CN=RECIPIENTS/CN=CSHELBY into a Windows 2000 Security
Identifier.

It is possible that this is caused by latency in the Active Directory
Service, if so, wait until the user record is replicated to the Active
Directory and attempt to access the folder (it will be upgraded in
place).
If the specified object does NOT get replicated to the Active Directory,
use the Microsoft Exchange System Manager or the Exchange Client to
update the ACL on the folder manually.

The access rights in the ACE for this DN were 0x0.






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RE: Zombie ACL's

2003-07-29 Thread Tony Hlabse
Ah then that's the rub trying to find permissions for something that no 
longer exists that Exchange is looking for.

From: Woodruff, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Zombie ACL's
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 15:06:29 -0400
That would only show up if she was a delegate or such.  Explicit
permissions to folders will not show up there.
-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 3:05 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Zombie ACL's
Never having done it, can this this be done with a asdiedit or ldap
search?
From: Carmila Fresco [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Zombie ACL's
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 12:02:46 -0700
Jim,

CSHELBY is actually a user that has left even before we migrated to E2k.
She's had delegate permissions to a bunch of our users.  I just have to
figure out which users.
-Original Message-
From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:58 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Carmila,

The offending mailbox is listed in the next line down in your error
message:
The Information Store was unable to convert the security for /O=BABCOCK
 BROWN/OU=BBIMAIL/CN=RECIPIENTS/CN=CSHELBY into a Windows 2000 Security
Identifier.
In this case, it's the mailbox with an alias of CSHELBY.

-Original Message-
From: Carmila Fresco [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:49 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Zombie ACL's
Not really.  It just says:

An error occurred while upgrading the ACL on folder [MBX:Mailbox Store
(NYMAIL)]/Journal located on database Storage group 1\Store 1A.
-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:48 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
It shouldn't be.  Isn't the mailbox with the bad ACL pretty clearly
listed in the event log message?
Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carmila Fresco
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:35 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Zombie ACL's
Ouch...

That's like finding a needle in the hay stack! :)

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:28 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
You have to find them and remove them.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carmila Fresco
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:19 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Zombie ACL's
We're getting this kind of warning on 3 of our E2K servers.  The warning
has different aliases in the x500 address though.  I saw this KB
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;318549 but it
applies to SP1  SP2.  We're on SP3.  Tried it anyways but it didn't fix
anything.
Does anyone have any other ideas on how to fix this?

Thanks,
Carmila

Source: MSExchangeIS Mailbox
Category: General
Event ID: 9551
An error occurred while upgrading the ACL on folder [MBX:Mailbox Store
(NYMAIL)]/Journal located on database Storage group 1\Store 1A.
The Information Store was unable to convert the security for /O=BABCOCK
 BROWN/OU=BBIMAIL/CN=RECIPIENTS/CN=CSHELBY into a Windows 2000 Security
Identifier.
It is possible that this is caused by latency in the Active Directory
Service, if so, wait until the user record is replicated to the Active
Directory and attempt to access the folder (it will be upgraded in
place).
If the specified object does NOT get replicated to the Active Directory,
use the Microsoft Exchange System Manager or the Exchange Client to
update the ACL on the folder manually.
The access rights in the ACE for this DN were 0x0.





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RE: Secondary Address Book

2003-07-29 Thread mh exch
I was able to do the import and move the contacts to the public folder but only the 
account that created them is able to see them. I have given the permissions for 
default as reviewer and anonymous as none. So I guess in order to see the folders in 
the mail drop down list I need add some more permissions or will it take time to 
replicate to the users ??
MH

-Original Message-
From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 12:38 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book


Actually, your EASIEST option if it was Ex5.5, would be to export them out
of Notes to a .csv file, massage the .csv file so that you have them all set
as Custom Recipients, then import them all to the GAL of the Exchange Server
via the Tools / Directory Import... function.  Whether the process is the
same in E2k, I can't say.

However, due to the fact that the admins for our Ex5.5 org won't let me add
22,000 CR to the GAL, I have to do this for the GAL that is exported as a
.csv from our parent company.

So far, the only solution I have found to do this is to use File / Import
and export... / Import from another program or file and then choose the CSV
(windows) option to import them to the contacts folder of the mailbox.  Once
you've done that, move all the contacts to the PF.  It's a PIA, but even
after asking this list a couple of times, I haven't found an easier way to
do it...Outlook doesn't allow you to import directly to a PF.

One thing that does help the process to go faster, is to empty the contacts
folder of the mailbox first and then use the option to allow it to create
duplicates.  Otherwise, it's going to compare every contact it imports
against what is already there.  As you get more and more contacts in the
folder, it's going to go slower.  If you tell it not to create duplicates,
once it does the comparison, it then has to move the old one to the Deleted
Items folder, which further slows down the process.

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:23 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book


Probably the easiest way would be to do it via the import/export tool in
Outlook. 

-Original Message-
From: mh exch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:22 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book

Once I have created and set permissions on the PF how do I import the csv
file into the PF ??

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 12:11 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book


Sure 

-Original Message-
From: mh exch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:12 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book

So I would create a public folder with the name of the address book I want
then import them into the public folder ? 
MH

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 12:02 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book


OK, so you could export them from Notes (however you do that), then import
them into a PF in Exchange. 

-Original Message-
From: mh exch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:02 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book

That is correct the addresses are from outside sales, outside sister
companies that have been populated in the Notes address book. MH

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:54 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book


Are these external addresses like sales contacts or something? Not actually
users on the system? 

-Original Message-
From: mh exch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 10:54 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book

Because the Notes Server is going to go away when I can get the address book
issue resolved. I was hoping to beable to create another address book and
then import the notes addresses into it. We have a few Notes serveres around
the company but we are in the process of phaseing them out. So I don't want
to have anything left over from the notes world.

MH

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:51 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book


Why wouldn't you want to keep it connected to Notes?

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mh exch
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 10:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book

If I do use the notes connector does this mean it is a one time import or do
I 

RE: Secondary Address Book

2003-07-29 Thread Ed Crowley
In Exchange 2000, you need to grant permissions to anonymous.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mh exch
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 12:18 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book

I was able to do the import and move the contacts to the public folder but
only the account that created them is able to see them. I have given the
permissions for default as reviewer and anonymous as none. So I guess in
order to see the folders in the mail drop down list I need add some more
permissions or will it take time to replicate to the users ??
MH

-Original Message-
From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 12:38 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book


Actually, your EASIEST option if it was Ex5.5, would be to export them out
of Notes to a .csv file, massage the .csv file so that you have them all set
as Custom Recipients, then import them all to the GAL of the Exchange Server
via the Tools / Directory Import... function.  Whether the process is the
same in E2k, I can't say.

However, due to the fact that the admins for our Ex5.5 org won't let me add
22,000 CR to the GAL, I have to do this for the GAL that is exported as a
.csv from our parent company.

So far, the only solution I have found to do this is to use File / Import
and export... / Import from another program or file and then choose the CSV
(windows) option to import them to the contacts folder of the mailbox.  Once
you've done that, move all the contacts to the PF.  It's a PIA, but even
after asking this list a couple of times, I haven't found an easier way to
do it...Outlook doesn't allow you to import directly to a PF.

One thing that does help the process to go faster, is to empty the contacts
folder of the mailbox first and then use the option to allow it to create
duplicates.  Otherwise, it's going to compare every contact it imports
against what is already there.  As you get more and more contacts in the
folder, it's going to go slower.  If you tell it not to create duplicates,
once it does the comparison, it then has to move the old one to the Deleted
Items folder, which further slows down the process.

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:23 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book


Probably the easiest way would be to do it via the import/export tool in
Outlook. 

-Original Message-
From: mh exch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:22 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book

Once I have created and set permissions on the PF how do I import the csv
file into the PF ??

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 12:11 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book


Sure 

-Original Message-
From: mh exch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:12 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book

So I would create a public folder with the name of the address book I want
then import them into the public folder ? 
MH

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 12:02 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book


OK, so you could export them from Notes (however you do that), then import
them into a PF in Exchange. 

-Original Message-
From: mh exch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:02 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book

That is correct the addresses are from outside sales, outside sister
companies that have been populated in the Notes address book. MH

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:54 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book


Are these external addresses like sales contacts or something? Not actually
users on the system? 

-Original Message-
From: mh exch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 10:54 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book

Because the Notes Server is going to go away when I can get the address book
issue resolved. I was hoping to beable to create another address book and
then import the notes addresses into it. We have a few Notes serveres around
the company but we are in the process of phaseing them out. So I don't want
to have anything left over from the notes world.

MH

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:51 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book


Why wouldn't you want to keep it connected to Notes?

Ed Crowley 

OWA 5.5

2003-07-29 Thread Hans-Werner Franz
Hi,

today I set up OWA for our Exchange 5.5 Server. I copied all language
packs to server but all Browsers show only USA english webpages even when
the chosen language is german.
Must I activate those language packs anywhere?
Or what am I doing wrong?

thx for your help


-- 
Hans-Werner Franz
http://tollernet.de
http://jubis.tollernet.de
http://trischa.tollernet.de
http://nanuk.tollernet.de
http://interspace-networks.de

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RE: OWA 5.5

2003-07-29 Thread Mellott, Bill
I personally found I had to enable the additional languages in the browser
also..

bill

-Original Message-
From: Hans-Werner Franz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 4:12 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: OWA 5.5


Hi,

today I set up OWA for our Exchange 5.5 Server. I copied all language
packs to server but all Browsers show only USA english webpages even when
the chosen language is german.
Must I activate those language packs anywhere?
Or what am I doing wrong?

thx for your help


-- 
Hans-Werner Franz
http://tollernet.de
http://jubis.tollernet.de
http://trischa.tollernet.de
http://nanuk.tollernet.de
http://interspace-networks.de

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RE: Secondary Address Book

2003-07-29 Thread mh exch
I did grant the anonymous permission as reviewer but it still hasn't allowed them to 
see the Public Folders in the address book, but they are able to view them in the 
public folders with all of the contacts that were imported. But yet on the server the 
outlook client sees them as you should when you pull down from global to the other 
address entries.
Thanks
MH 

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 1:25 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book


In Exchange 2000, you need to grant permissions to anonymous.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mh exch
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 12:18 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book

I was able to do the import and move the contacts to the public folder but
only the account that created them is able to see them. I have given the
permissions for default as reviewer and anonymous as none. So I guess in
order to see the folders in the mail drop down list I need add some more
permissions or will it take time to replicate to the users ??
MH

-Original Message-
From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 12:38 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book


Actually, your EASIEST option if it was Ex5.5, would be to export them out
of Notes to a .csv file, massage the .csv file so that you have them all set
as Custom Recipients, then import them all to the GAL of the Exchange Server
via the Tools / Directory Import... function.  Whether the process is the
same in E2k, I can't say.

However, due to the fact that the admins for our Ex5.5 org won't let me add
22,000 CR to the GAL, I have to do this for the GAL that is exported as a
.csv from our parent company.

So far, the only solution I have found to do this is to use File / Import
and export... / Import from another program or file and then choose the CSV
(windows) option to import them to the contacts folder of the mailbox.  Once
you've done that, move all the contacts to the PF.  It's a PIA, but even
after asking this list a couple of times, I haven't found an easier way to
do it...Outlook doesn't allow you to import directly to a PF.

One thing that does help the process to go faster, is to empty the contacts
folder of the mailbox first and then use the option to allow it to create
duplicates.  Otherwise, it's going to compare every contact it imports
against what is already there.  As you get more and more contacts in the
folder, it's going to go slower.  If you tell it not to create duplicates,
once it does the comparison, it then has to move the old one to the Deleted
Items folder, which further slows down the process.

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:23 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book


Probably the easiest way would be to do it via the import/export tool in
Outlook. 

-Original Message-
From: mh exch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:22 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book

Once I have created and set permissions on the PF how do I import the csv
file into the PF ??

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 12:11 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book


Sure 

-Original Message-
From: mh exch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:12 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book

So I would create a public folder with the name of the address book I want
then import them into the public folder ? 
MH

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 12:02 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book


OK, so you could export them from Notes (however you do that), then import
them into a PF in Exchange. 

-Original Message-
From: mh exch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:02 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book

That is correct the addresses are from outside sales, outside sister
companies that have been populated in the Notes address book. MH

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:54 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book


Are these external addresses like sales contacts or something? Not actually
users on the system? 

-Original Message-
From: mh exch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 10:54 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book

Because the Notes Server is going to go away when I can get the 

RE: Secondary Address Book

2003-07-29 Thread Ed Crowley
In what address book?

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mh exch
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 2:18 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book

I did grant the anonymous permission as reviewer but it still hasn't allowed
them to see the Public Folders in the address book, but they are able to
view them in the public folders with all of the contacts that were imported.
But yet on the server the outlook client sees them as you should when you
pull down from global to the other address entries.
Thanks
MH 

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 1:25 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book


In Exchange 2000, you need to grant permissions to anonymous.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mh exch
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 12:18 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book

I was able to do the import and move the contacts to the public folder but
only the account that created them is able to see them. I have given the
permissions for default as reviewer and anonymous as none. So I guess in
order to see the folders in the mail drop down list I need add some more
permissions or will it take time to replicate to the users ??
MH

-Original Message-
From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 12:38 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book


Actually, your EASIEST option if it was Ex5.5, would be to export them out
of Notes to a .csv file, massage the .csv file so that you have them all set
as Custom Recipients, then import them all to the GAL of the Exchange Server
via the Tools / Directory Import... function.  Whether the process is the
same in E2k, I can't say.

However, due to the fact that the admins for our Ex5.5 org won't let me add
22,000 CR to the GAL, I have to do this for the GAL that is exported as a
.csv from our parent company.

So far, the only solution I have found to do this is to use File / Import
and export... / Import from another program or file and then choose the CSV
(windows) option to import them to the contacts folder of the mailbox.  Once
you've done that, move all the contacts to the PF.  It's a PIA, but even
after asking this list a couple of times, I haven't found an easier way to
do it...Outlook doesn't allow you to import directly to a PF.

One thing that does help the process to go faster, is to empty the contacts
folder of the mailbox first and then use the option to allow it to create
duplicates.  Otherwise, it's going to compare every contact it imports
against what is already there.  As you get more and more contacts in the
folder, it's going to go slower.  If you tell it not to create duplicates,
once it does the comparison, it then has to move the old one to the Deleted
Items folder, which further slows down the process.

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:23 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book


Probably the easiest way would be to do it via the import/export tool in
Outlook. 

-Original Message-
From: mh exch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:22 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book

Once I have created and set permissions on the PF how do I import the csv
file into the PF ??

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 12:11 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book


Sure 

-Original Message-
From: mh exch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:12 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book

So I would create a public folder with the name of the address book I want
then import them into the public folder ? 
MH

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 12:02 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book


OK, so you could export them from Notes (however you do that), then import
them into a PF in Exchange. 

-Original Message-
From: mh exch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:02 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book

That is correct the addresses are from outside sales, outside sister
companies that have been populated in the Notes address book. MH

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:54 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book


Are these 

Exchange 2K and SP4

2003-07-29 Thread John Parker
Hey all...

I am finally getting ready to take the plunge and want to know if there are any issues 
with EX2K and SP4 that I shoudl be aware of.

I have 2Kserver SP3, Backup Exec and trend server protect and scanmail.

ANy known issues?


John Parker, MCSE
IS Admin.
Senior Technical Specialist
Digital Display Systems.

Alpha Video
7711 Computer Ave.
Edina, MN. 55435
 
952-896-9898 Local
800-388-0008 Watts
952-896-9899 Fax
612-804-8769 Cell
952-841-3327 Direct

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Be excellent to each other
---End of Line---



-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 5:39 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book


In what address book?

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mh exch
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 2:18 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book

I did grant the anonymous permission as reviewer but it still hasn't allowed
them to see the Public Folders in the address book, but they are able to
view them in the public folders with all of the contacts that were imported.
But yet on the server the outlook client sees them as you should when you
pull down from global to the other address entries.
Thanks
MH 

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 1:25 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book


In Exchange 2000, you need to grant permissions to anonymous.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mh exch
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 12:18 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book

I was able to do the import and move the contacts to the public folder but
only the account that created them is able to see them. I have given the
permissions for default as reviewer and anonymous as none. So I guess in
order to see the folders in the mail drop down list I need add some more
permissions or will it take time to replicate to the users ??
MH

-Original Message-
From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 12:38 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book


Actually, your EASIEST option if it was Ex5.5, would be to export them out
of Notes to a .csv file, massage the .csv file so that you have them all set
as Custom Recipients, then import them all to the GAL of the Exchange Server
via the Tools / Directory Import... function.  Whether the process is the
same in E2k, I can't say.

However, due to the fact that the admins for our Ex5.5 org won't let me add
22,000 CR to the GAL, I have to do this for the GAL that is exported as a
.csv from our parent company.

So far, the only solution I have found to do this is to use File / Import
and export... / Import from another program or file and then choose the CSV
(windows) option to import them to the contacts folder of the mailbox.  Once
you've done that, move all the contacts to the PF.  It's a PIA, but even
after asking this list a couple of times, I haven't found an easier way to
do it...Outlook doesn't allow you to import directly to a PF.

One thing that does help the process to go faster, is to empty the contacts
folder of the mailbox first and then use the option to allow it to create
duplicates.  Otherwise, it's going to compare every contact it imports
against what is already there.  As you get more and more contacts in the
folder, it's going to go slower.  If you tell it not to create duplicates,
once it does the comparison, it then has to move the old one to the Deleted
Items folder, which further slows down the process.

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:23 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book


Probably the easiest way would be to do it via the import/export tool in
Outlook. 

-Original Message-
From: mh exch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:22 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book

Once I have created and set permissions on the PF how do I import the csv
file into the PF ??

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 12:11 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book


Sure 

-Original Message-
From: mh exch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:12 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book

So I would create a public folder with the name of the address book I want
then import them into the public folder ? 
MH

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL 

RE: Exchange 2K and SP4

2003-07-29 Thread Blunt, James H (Jim)
Turns two services back on...
 
Portable Media Serial Number Service - Starts /  Sets it to Manual
Automatic Updates - Starts / Sets it to Automatic

-Original Message-
From: John Parker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 4:30 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Exchange 2K and SP4


Hey all...

I am finally getting ready to take the plunge and want to know if there are
any issues with EX2K and SP4 that I shoudl be aware of.

I have 2Kserver SP3, Backup Exec and trend server protect and scanmail.

ANy known issues?


John Parker, MCSE
IS Admin.
Senior Technical Specialist
Digital Display Systems.

Alpha Video
7711 Computer Ave.
Edina, MN. 55435
 
952-896-9898 Local
800-388-0008 Watts
952-896-9899 Fax
612-804-8769 Cell
952-841-3327 Direct

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Be excellent to each other
---End of Line---



-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 5:39 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book


In what address book?

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mh exch
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 2:18 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book

I did grant the anonymous permission as reviewer but it still hasn't allowed
them to see the Public Folders in the address book, but they are able to
view them in the public folders with all of the contacts that were imported.
But yet on the server the outlook client sees them as you should when you
pull down from global to the other address entries. Thanks MH 

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 1:25 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book


In Exchange 2000, you need to grant permissions to anonymous.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mh exch
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 12:18 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book

I was able to do the import and move the contacts to the public folder but
only the account that created them is able to see them. I have given the
permissions for default as reviewer and anonymous as none. So I guess in
order to see the folders in the mail drop down list I need add some more
permissions or will it take time to replicate to the users ?? MH

-Original Message-
From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 12:38 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book


Actually, your EASIEST option if it was Ex5.5, would be to export them out
of Notes to a .csv file, massage the .csv file so that you have them all set
as Custom Recipients, then import them all to the GAL of the Exchange Server
via the Tools / Directory Import... function.  Whether the process is the
same in E2k, I can't say.

However, due to the fact that the admins for our Ex5.5 org won't let me add
22,000 CR to the GAL, I have to do this for the GAL that is exported as a
.csv from our parent company.

So far, the only solution I have found to do this is to use File / Import
and export... / Import from another program or file and then choose the CSV
(windows) option to import them to the contacts folder of the mailbox.  Once
you've done that, move all the contacts to the PF.  It's a PIA, but even
after asking this list a couple of times, I haven't found an easier way to
do it...Outlook doesn't allow you to import directly to a PF.

One thing that does help the process to go faster, is to empty the contacts
folder of the mailbox first and then use the option to allow it to create
duplicates.  Otherwise, it's going to compare every contact it imports
against what is already there.  As you get more and more contacts in the
folder, it's going to go slower.  If you tell it not to create duplicates,
once it does the comparison, it then has to move the old one to the Deleted
Items folder, which further slows down the process.

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:23 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book


Probably the easiest way would be to do it via the import/export tool in
Outlook. 

-Original Message-
From: mh exch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:22 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book

Once I have created and set permissions on the PF how do I import the csv
file into the PF ??

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 12:11 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Secondary Address Book


Sure 

-Original Message-
From: mh exch 

RE: Reccomended Black Lists

2003-07-29 Thread bscott
On Tue, 29 Jul 2003, at 2:16pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thanks everyone for your valued opinions and recommendations of black
 lists.

  People are right that blacklists are operated by vigilantes.  Of course,
what they don't mention is that *everything* on the Internet is operated by
vigilantes.  The Internet is a community network.  No one person, company,
or organization controls it.  Get used to not being in control.  :)

  *Anyway*, more pragmatically: Blacklists can be useful.  You just need to
understand how they work.  Some are actually fairly good.  Some are kinda
okay.  Many are complete crap.  You need to carefully choose the blacklists
you use.  And you need to watch whatever blacklists you choose to make sure
they don't devolve.  Most importantly, matching a blacklist should never be
sufficient to block a message.  A good anti-spam system will incorporate a
weighted-scoring mechanism, so that multiple criteria, of different weights,
can be considered, to produce a cumulative score.  Very high scores (obvious
spam) can then be deleted, while medium scores can be flagged, sent to a
Possible Spam folder, or whatever.

-- 
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RE: Reccomended Black Lists

2003-07-29 Thread Presley, Steve
If you are using Sendmail as your message relay you could use
greylisting.  I have seen it work very well in a number of places...even
large shops.  

http://projects.puremagic.com/greylisting/



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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Aaron
Brasslett
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 8:33 AM
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Subject: Reccomended Black Lists


Hi all,

I'm planning to install spam blocking software soon and I was wonder
what
mailhost black lists you all recommend.  

Thanks.

Aaron

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Notes vs. Exchange

2003-07-29 Thread Michael L. Callahan
I'm attempting to convince my management to migrate from Lotus Notes to
Exchange.  Mail capabilities aside, is there a good source out there for
a point by point comparison of the collaborative features of both
platforms?

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Re: Notes vs. Exchange

2003-07-29 Thread bscott
On Tue, 29 Jul 2003, at 8:37pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm attempting to convince my management to migrate from Lotus Notes to
 Exchange.  Mail capabilities aside, is there a good source out there for a
 point by point comparison of the collaborative features of both platforms?

  Call your local Microsoft sales office.  Let them do your work for you.

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RE: Notes vs. Exchange

2003-07-29 Thread Michael L. Callahan
Yes, that is in the plan, but I am seeking info for use in the
preliminary conversations.  I found some items on the Exchange site that
make a good starting point, and would like to get some anecdotal
material from those who have migrated from Notes to Exchange - including
some of the potential drawbacks.  I doubt that I would get that kind of
objectivity from a sales person.

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Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 10:13 PM
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On Tue, 29 Jul 2003, at 8:37pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm attempting to convince my management to migrate from Lotus Notes 
 to Exchange.  Mail capabilities aside, is there a good source out 
 there for a point by point comparison of the collaborative features of

 both platforms?

  Call your local Microsoft sales office.  Let them do your work for
you.

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