RE: Day 2 Lessons Learned: GW6.5 to Exchange 2000

2003-12-12 Thread Webb, Andy
On the subject of migration tool investment by the vendors, migration tools are considered a marketing expense. You build free tools when you're trying to quickly gain market share from your competitors. Once you have the market share, there's less need since the prospective customers will want

RE: SMTP mail not reaching Exchange Server

2003-12-12 Thread Niki Blowfield
:) ok thanks for the help Our DNS is provided by our ISP, I guess I need to ring them and find out whats going on, we changed about a week ago and instructed they change our MX, I assume it should be fine by now? When I test it from here I get the new IP, so some servers are aware (and this is

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-12 Thread Shotton Jolyon
GD - it simply isn't done in professional circles Isn't done? Don't US companies sponsor university posts in the USA? They certainly do here in the UK. If someone sticks the MVP title in their sig I know the deal and can factor it my opinion forming process, it's open. As a browser, lurker

Friday Poetry (Off-topic)

2003-12-12 Thread Busby, Jacob
In the spirit of the Friday Haikus of old, here's one for anybody whose on call-out over Chistmas: I SAW THREE CHIPS - I saw three chips just fail and die The sysops say they came that way The server upped and waved Goodbye On Christmas day in the morning. And who was on the

RE: SMTP mail not reaching Exchange Server

2003-12-12 Thread Ely, Don
Looking good from network-tools.com as well... You might want to bookmark that site, it comes in very handy for the likes of these problems... -Original Message- From: Niki Blowfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 2:22 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE:

RE: SMTP mail not reaching Exchange Server

2003-12-12 Thread Chinnery, Paul
Cool site. Thanks for posting, Don. Paul Chinnery Network Administrator Mem Med Ctr -Original Message- From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 7:56 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: SMTP mail not reaching Exchange Server Looking good from

RE: SMTP mail not reaching Exchange Server

2003-12-12 Thread Schwartz, Jim
This is also a good site to look at if you need to figure out issues with DNS. http://www.dnsreport.com/ -Original Message- From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 9:10 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: SMTP mail not reaching Exchange Server

RE: SMTP mail not reaching Exchange Server

2003-12-12 Thread Ely, Don
A padiwan you are Soon, a jedi you will be -Original Message- From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 9:16 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: SMTP mail not reaching Exchange Server This is also a good site to look at if you need to figure out

Mail Processing by Exchange vs. SendMail

2003-12-12 Thread Sean Faust
Good Morning All, I have a Unix/Linux admin that is just wearing me out with regards to Exchanging being 3rd rate. Given all of the variables including memory, processors, etc. How much mail traffic can Exchange process in an hour/day and what is the advantage if any of putting SendMail in

RE: Mail Processing by Exchange vs. SendMail

2003-12-12 Thread Ely, Don
Tell him Postfix is more secure... :P Personally, I like to put another server at the edge for SMTP that is NOT Exchange when I can... As far as who's faster at processing... Who cares, can Sendmail do calendaring, public folders, etc? -Original Message- From: Sean Faust

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-12 Thread Jason Clishe
Shut the fu*k up already, everyone. If anyone wants to continue this childish diatribe, take it offline. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Deckler Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 10:10 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE:

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-12 Thread David, Andy
I just saved a bunch of money on my car insurance. -Original Message- From: Jason Clishe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 9:28 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 Shut the fu*k up already, everyone. If anyone wants to

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-12 Thread Ely, Don
Aflac!! -Original Message- From: David, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 9:34 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 I just saved a bunch of money on my car insurance. -Original Message- From: Jason Clishe

RE: Mail Processing by Exchange vs. SendMail

2003-12-12 Thread Sean Faust
Greg, would you please help with this discussion on SendMailYour input will be highly regardedThanks Tell him Postfix is more secure... :P Personally, I like to put another server at the edge for SMTP that is NOT Exchange when I can... As far as who's faster at processing...

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

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RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-12 Thread Mellott, Bill
and I suppose...Can't we all just get along... is next and maybe Kumbyha It's the holiday seasonim thinking Seuss a classic... -Original Message- From: David, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 9:34 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE:

RE: Mail Processing by Exchange vs. SendMail

2003-12-12 Thread Roger Seielstad
Um, no, it can't. But that's a whole different story. Microsoft has some hard num bers about the speed of the IIS SMTP component in comparison to sendmail. I think they're in a whitepaper someone on the MS site. That being said, I'm not a fan of exposing Exchange directly to the Internet. If for

RE: Mail Processing by Exchange vs. SendMail

2003-12-12 Thread Schwartz, Jim
How much mail can Exchange process? A lot. If you understand how an e-mail is handled with Exchange SMTP services, you can design the server (include memory, processor and disk layout) you can make it fly. I stress tested the IIS SMTP to see what I could get out of it. I rated the box at over

RE: Outlook XP - Exch 2ksp3 POP3 Login problems

2003-12-12 Thread Crista Murphy
Thanks, but there is no problem logging in to OWA, it's only Outlook POP3 that requests passwords and only this 1 client out of 5 who also log in using POP3. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web

RE: Day 2 Lessons Learned: GW6.5 to Exchange 2000

2003-12-12 Thread Greg Deckler
Well, if you're big enough to look past my views on MVP, I think I can let it slide. Many thanks for your response. And, BTW, $1200 is 25% of the budget for this project, that's a big chunk of change. P.S. And because I have been heckled to death on this issue, I feel the need to clarify because

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-12 Thread Greg Deckler
Now THAT's funny. I just saved a bunch of money on my car insurance. -Original Message- From: Jason Clishe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 9:28 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 Shut the fu*k up already,

RE: Mail Processing by Exchange vs. SendMail

2003-12-12 Thread Greg Deckler
While I am not sure that the Greg in this post was directed at me or whether this is some new form of abuse and sarcasm, it is pretty much irrelevant as I do have some things to say on this issue. The biggest problem that I have had with Exchange on the outside of the SMTP mail chain is anti-spam

RE: Mail Processing by Exchange vs. SendMail

2003-12-12 Thread Fyodorov, Andrey
Dude, I don't know who you are but you are wrong. All SMTP servers must accept anonymous connections, otherwise no one on the Internet would be able to send mail to each other. Also Exchange perfectly understands the difference between inbound mail and a relay situation. When you restrict

RE: Mail Processing by Exchange vs. SendMail

2003-12-12 Thread Aaron Brasslett
It's been a while since I've supported POP3 clients on Exchange (5.5) but, as I recall, I had no issues with anonymous relaying. I believe that Exchange 5.5 allowed anonymous SMTP inbound connections (that is, connections for mail to be delivered locally) and would allow relaying by authenticated

RE: Outlook XP - Exch 2ksp3 POP3 Login problems

2003-12-12 Thread Fyodorov, Andrey
I have seen this many times - Outlook XP freaks out and starts asking for password all of a sudden. Sometimes it seems to coincide with the company's change password policy (even if the specific user is set to never expire). Just change the user's password, log out, log back in and see if it

RE: SMTP mail not reaching Exchange Server

2003-12-12 Thread Fyodorov, Andrey
:( I was the first one to mention it :( I am gonna go cry now :( -Original Message- From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 9:10 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: SMTP mail not reaching Exchange Server Cool site. Thanks for posting, Don.

Duplicate (or more) meeting requests

2003-12-12 Thread Adams, Kevin C.
Greetings, We recently migrated to Outlook 2002. Some users are seeing a problem when they receive a meeting request, a tentative meeting is added to their calendar. Upon accepting the meeting a second entry is added for the same meeting. Has anyone else seen this problem? Thanks much! K

RE: Mail Processing by Exchange vs. SendMail

2003-12-12 Thread Greg Deckler
Yes, you were lucky. I have seen this exact scenario happen a couple times now. Fydora or whoever apparently did not understand this scenario but it is a fairly common scenario in small office environments with people on the road connecting their laptops to hotel networks and the like. Yes, OWA is

RE: Mail Processing by Exchange vs. SendMail

2003-12-12 Thread Greg Deckler
Urg to kill...rising... Dude, you apparently don't understand what I am talking about. Urg to kill...fading...rising!...fading... Dude, I don't know who you are but you are wrong. All SMTP servers must accept anonymous connections, otherwise no one on = the Internet would be able to send

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-12 Thread Ken Cornetet
OK, since it is Friday, I declare that further followups to this thread be done in Haiku! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Deckler Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 10:05 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-12 Thread Hutchins, Mike
That is not funny Haiku is for more than that I think I need beer -Original Message- From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 10:06 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 OK, since it is Friday, I declare that further

RE: Mail Processing by Exchange vs. SendMail

2003-12-12 Thread Fyodorov, Andrey
Hey there always will be people that don't like POP3. I perfectly understand how Exchange works by the way. I also perfectly understand SMTP. Believe me, most SMTP servers out there (Exchange, iMAIL, SendMail, etc.) accept Anonymous connections. It does not meant that they relay mail for

Re: XCH 2k3 public folders in mixed site

2003-12-12 Thread Chris H
you only see the TLF. You cannot expand to see any underneath. - Original Message - From: Ed Crowley [MVP] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 8:46 PM Subject: RE: XCH 2k3 public folders in mixed site Please explan what you

RE: Mail Processing by Exchange vs. SendMail

2003-12-12 Thread Greg Deckler
Well, I'll believe my own eyes. I've seen it happen. Don't come cryin' to me when you get nailed by the spammers. Hey there always will be people that don't like POP3. I perfectly understand how Exchange works by the way. I also perfectly understand SMTP. Believe me, most SMTP servers out

RE: Mail Processing by Exchange vs. SendMail

2003-12-12 Thread Fyodorov, Andrey
I won't have any need to cry. My relays are tight. Sincerely, Andrey Fyodorov, Exchange MVP Systems Engineer Messaging and Collaboration Spherion -Original Message- From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 12:14 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject:

RE: Mail Processing by Exchange vs. SendMail

2003-12-12 Thread Ken Cornetet
I thing Greg is saying that a POP3/SMTP user can't send mail OUTSIDE the organization without relaying (with authentication) turned on. Which is another good reason to NOT expose Exchange SMTP to the outside world. It is now apparently common knowledge among spammers that Exchange defaults to

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-12 Thread Shotton Jolyon
Tears freeze as they fall. A saint upon a high horse, Is tall but smells bad. -Original Message- From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 December 2003 17:06 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 OK, since it is Friday, I declare that further

RE: Mail Processing by Exchange vs. SendMail

2003-12-12 Thread Hague, Jeff
That's obviously absurd - Sendmail probably does process more mail than Exchange on similar hardware but that's pretty much all sendmail does. It doesn't provide the additional features that Exchange has out of the box particularly if you are an Active Directory shop. Besides, what difference does

RE: Mail Processing by Exchange vs. SendMail

2003-12-12 Thread Hutchins, Mike
We have a sendmail box out in front of our exchange org purely for spam filtering. We are running PureMessage on Slackware 9. -Original Message- From: Hague, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 9:44 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Mail Processing by

RE: Mail Processing by Exchange vs. SendMail

2003-12-12 Thread Fyodorov, Andrey
Same thing with Imail. In its tightest configuration, one must authenticate in order to send mail from a POP3/SMTP client to an external address. No need to authenticate to send mail to someone on the same Imail server. Imail has other ways to control relay permissions but they are inferior (like

RE: Mail Processing by Exchange vs. SendMail

2003-12-12 Thread Erik L. Vesneski
Hi, We moved over the Qmail after having to upgrade and secure our Sendmail servers after a few times. I have always been a believer in placing an MTA as a bridgehead in front of Exchange. On the other hand, I think its entirely possible to manage an Exchange server with 25 open to the

Server-based autoresponder for exchange 2000

2003-12-12 Thread Vivek Singh
Hi, We want to send an automatic response to the sender when an email is sent to the support mail ID of our company. I am interested in implementing a server based autoresponder for exchange 2000. So far, I've only seen products that run on Outlook. If you know of any server-based products that

RE: Mail Processing by Exchange vs. SendMail

2003-12-12 Thread Aaron Brasslett
It always passed the relay tests that I threw at the though. This was a simple environment and no other relaying was allowed. I suspect that the systems you have worked on had some other reason for relaying besides that ones you mentioned. Aaron -Original Message- From: Greg Deckler

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-12 Thread Eric Fretz
No, you can make a statement as a fact or as an opinion. It is how you quantify the statement that sets the distinction. Starting a sentence as I think that MVPs are unethical is different than saying, MVPs ARE unethical. Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery

RE: Server-based autoresponder for exchange 2000

2003-12-12 Thread Fyodorov, Andrey
Well, a server-based rule will work even when Outlook is not running. However it will present a great danger of starting a mail loop. Another way to do this would be to write some more intelligent code and create an event sink. Sincerely, Andrey Fyodorov, Exchange MVP Systems Engineer Messaging

RE: Mail Processing by Exchange vs. SendMail

2003-12-12 Thread Sean Faust
Back to my original question, we use Surf Control in front of SendMail which then forwards on to the Exchange Servers. Why would you put SendMail in as an intermediary? Is just the way Unix/Linux admins do things or is there a valid reason? Thanks for the replies. Good Information. It

RE: Mail Processing by Exchange vs. SendMail

2003-12-12 Thread Fyodorov, Andrey
Just call me Russki. -Original Message- From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 12:00 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Mail Processing by Exchange vs. SendMail Yes, you were lucky. I have seen this exact scenario happen a couple times now.

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-12 Thread Eric Fretz
Brilliant comic timing. Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: David, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 8:34 AM To: Exchange Discussions

RE: Mail Processing by Exchange vs. SendMail

2003-12-12 Thread Sean Faust
Oh, let me tell you, he hates Bill, Microcrap comes out of his mouth far too often. He's only 22 years old and a genius kid, good natured, knows his stuff. He is also an MCSE only because he was forced into it. The fact that someone develops a product to sell and then gets rich really pisses

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-12 Thread Greg Deckler
Anything that is not a fact is an opinion. It will never be a fact that MVP's are unethical, because not everyone is going to agree on it and there is no physical proof either way. No, you can make a statement as a fact or as an opinion. It is how you quantify the statement that sets the

RE: Mail Processing by Exchange vs. SendMail

2003-12-12 Thread Hutchins, Mike
We do it because puremessage runs on sendmail. -Original Message- From: Sean Faust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 11:15 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Mail Processing by Exchange vs. SendMail Back to my original question, we use Surf Control in

RE: Mail Processing by Exchange vs. SendMail

2003-12-12 Thread Hutchins, Mike
Hi russki -Original Message- From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 11:15 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Mail Processing by Exchange vs. SendMail Just call me Russki. -Original Message- From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL

RE: Mail Processing by Exchange vs. SendMail

2003-12-12 Thread Fyodorov, Andrey
I wonder if any Linux people like the WTO :) -Original Message- From: Sean Faust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 1:21 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Mail Processing by Exchange vs. SendMail Oh, let me tell you, he hates Bill, Microcrap comes out of

RE: Best backup software for Exchange

2003-12-12 Thread East, Bill
I love my Gammy but I won't let her sit on a freshly-upholstered sofa. -- be - MOS -Original Message- From: Ronald Mazzotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 4:28 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Best backup software for Exchange Funny you

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-12 Thread Ben Schorr
That's true, your beliefs being on the fringe does not make them any less correct. It's the fact that you're wrong that makes them less correct. This imagined ethical crisis you've come up with simply doesn't exist. The vast majority of MVPs are interested in the best solution to the given

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-12 Thread Ben Schorr
I don't recall ever claiming to not be compensated -- though I hardly call what I receive from Microsoft to be compensation in any significant understanding of the word. Furthermore this so-called compensation appears to be misplaced, since it hasn't altered my behavior. I provided support on

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-12 Thread Shotton Jolyon
I was going to ask what form this compensation took. So it's on the level of the free pens the drugs companies give to doctors rather than being so much greater than the salary your employer pays that your loyalty lies utterly with Microsoft then? *Phew* Also, can I say again that

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-12 Thread Rachel Pickens
Jolyon, This Greg doesn't see it that way... He thinks the pens and mousepads are evil, and will corrupt you. But note, he he thinks utility software should be free. (he mentioned Novell by name) You missed the last time this subject came up, it raged for a week with no real conclusion. He

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-12 Thread Ben Schorr
Pens, Post-It Pads, the occasional portfolio-pad-book thing, mouse or logo watch (I don't wear wristwatches). Nice trinkets, most of which my wife takes. Doctors and lawyers get truckloads of vendor gifts. My mother is a cancer researcher. Every coffee mug she owns has a pharmaceutical name on

RE: Day 2 Lessons Learned: GW6.5 to Exchange 2000

2003-12-12 Thread Webb, Andy
If $1200 is 25% of a GW-Ex migration for 700 people then the project was severely underscoped and underbid. It seems like the customer has chosen cost over quality. C'est la vie. As for your positions, they are your opinion. Not fact. Not an opinion that many people agree with either. There

RE: Mail Processing by Exchange vs. SendMail

2003-12-12 Thread Webb, Andy
There will always be people too stupid not to use POP3 as well. What can you say. POP3 is an unsecure and unsecurable protocol without adding something else. You can use multiple interfaces and have your POP clients connect differently. You can allow relaying only if they first set up a VPN

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-12 Thread Webb, Andy
There's no physical proof that you as a so-called professional are not unethical either. When did you stop beating your wife? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Deckler Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 12:48 PM To: Exchange Discussions

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-12 Thread Eric Fretz
I was not arguing with you about the symantics between fact opinion, just rather pointing out that you tend to assert your opinions as fact. That is a very abrasive personality trait and probably explains why the discussion list has reacted to you the way that they have. Eric Fretz L-3

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-12 Thread Eric Fretz
I am owned by my MSDN cd cases and Microsoft pens. Long live the overlord! It's raining here (Dallas, TX), too. (A very wet) Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From:

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-12 Thread Rachel Pickens
Hi Neighbor, I'm just over a ways, off of I75 and Caruth Haven. Right across from Northpark mall in the big ugly gold towers. Traffic on 75 is horrid right now. -Original Message- From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 2:26 PM To: Exchange Discussions

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-12 Thread Martin Blackstone
We have a love connection!! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rachel Pickens Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 12:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 Hi Neighbor, I'm just over a ways, off of I75 and

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-12 Thread Ely, Don
Or is it... The LOVE Boat... Exciting and New... Climb Aboard... We're expecting YOU... -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 3:42 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 We have a love

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-12 Thread Martin Blackstone
The Swynk List... Exciting and New... Climb Aboard... We'll be flaming YOU... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ely, Don Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 12:47 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 Or is

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-12 Thread Ely, Don
Ok, so who plays Capt. Stubin? :p -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 3:56 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 The Swynk List... Exciting and New... Climb Aboard... We'll be flaming

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-12 Thread Candee Vaglica
You guys crack me up. =) -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 3:56 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 The Swynk List... Exciting and New... Climb Aboard... We'll be flaming YOU...

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-12 Thread Martin Blackstone
Ed. You're Julie, the coked up cruise director. I'm the Dr. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ely, Don Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 12:53 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 Ok, so who plays Capt.

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-12 Thread Ely, Don
I gotta do something! Apparently, if I were even LUCKY enough to get nominated to be an MVP, I'd be violating some code of ethics that doesn't exist if I were to accept such a nomination :( -Original Message- From: Candee Vaglica [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 12,

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-12 Thread Ely, Don
I wanna be Issac!! :P -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 4:03 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 Ed. You're Julie, the coked up cruise director. I'm the Dr. -Original

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-12 Thread Martin Blackstone
You want to complain? Fine, your Charo. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ely, Don Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 12:58 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 I wanna be Issac!! :P -Original

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-12 Thread David, Andy
Good choice. The doctor has the same hairline and legs as you. -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 4:03 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 Ed. You're Julie, the coked up cruise

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-12 Thread Ely, Don
Who the hell was that? I don't remember no Charo! -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 4:07 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 You want to complain? Fine, your Charo. -Original

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-12 Thread Martin Blackstone
You and Don should not be talking about hairlines -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David, Andy Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 1:07 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 Good choice. The doctor has the

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-12 Thread Martin Blackstone
http://www.showtimemarketing.com/images/charo.jpg -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ely, Don Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 1:06 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 Who the hell was that? I don't

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-12 Thread Ken Cornetet
Coochie Coochie! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin Blackstone Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 4:15 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 http://www.showtimemarketing.com/images/charo.jpg

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-12 Thread Martin Blackstone
Your forehead goes to the back of your neck. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ely, Don Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 1:11 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 This from the man with a really tall

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-12 Thread Ely, Don
This from the man with a really tall forehead and chicken legs... Who are you to talk? :P -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 4:14 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 You and Don should

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-12 Thread Ely, Don
Forehead = Pen... :P -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 4:20 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 Your forehead goes to the back of your neck. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-12 Thread Ben Schorr
More of a fivehead eh? -Ben- Ben M. Schorr, MVP-OneNote, CNA, MCPx4 Director of Information Services Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert http://www.hawaiilawyer.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin Blackstone Sent: Friday, December

Seeking documentation

2003-12-12 Thread chrisspan
Thanks for reading. I am looking into migrating to SBS 2003 from Windows NT 4 domain. I have a PDC (NT4), SQL 2000(Win2k) and Exchange 5.5 (NT4) all running on separate servers. I have not found any documentation about the upgrade/migration of this particular scenario. Any help? [EMAIL

RE: Seeking documentation

2003-12-12 Thread David, Andy
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/sbs/upgrade/default.mspx Scroll down. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 4:26 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Seeking documentation Thanks for reading. I am looking into

RE: Day 2 Lessons Learned: GW6.5 to Exchange 2000

2003-12-12 Thread Jason Clishe
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Webb, Andy If $1200 is 25% of a GW-Ex migration for 700 people then the project was severely underscoped and underbid. No kidding. The design and implementation plan alone for a project of that size is

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-12 Thread John Parker
I get to be doc then. He always got busy with the chix. John Parker, MCSE IS Admin. Senior Technical Specialist Alpha Display Systems. Alpha Video 7711 Computer Ave. Edina, MN. 55435 952-896-9898 Local 800-388-0008 Watts 952-896-9899 Fax 612-804-8769 Cell 952-841-3327 Direct [EMAIL

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-12 Thread Ely, Don
That's what they want you to believe... I think he preferred guys... That's why Martin wants to be the Doc... :P -Original Message- From: John Parker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 4:55 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 I

RE: Mail Processing by Exchange vs. SendMail

2003-12-12 Thread Hague, Jeff
And how does sendmail (or any other SMTP server for that matter) differ as far as allowing someone to send email to someone in a different domain - relaying? Jeff -Original Message- From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 12:24 PM To: Exchange

RE: Mail Processing by Exchange vs. SendMail

2003-12-12 Thread Hague, Jeff
We have a few of those around campus - mostly Mac heads though. 22 years old is all you had to say... We have a 22 year old Mac Tech who is also very bright and really knows his stuff but has the anti-MS attitude from hell as well. We have tried to get him to see that he has a great opportunity

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-12 Thread Roger Seielstad
His qualifies as a six head -- Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis Inc. -Original Message- From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 4:23 PM To:

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-12 Thread Ed Crowley [MVP]
Guilty conscience too. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Deckler Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 6:11 PM To: Exchange

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-12 Thread Ed Crowley [MVP]
The truth is the truth whether or not you remember it, misrepresent it, or lie about it. The truth is that there is an MVP web site, http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;en-us;mvpfaqs, which discloses that we get some stuff. Nobody has ever tried to hide anything. In the thread

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-12 Thread Ed Crowley [MVP]
It will never be a fact that MVPs are unethical because it simply isn't true unless we are held to your silly standards. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-12 Thread Ed Crowley [MVP]
The same guy who played Siegfried from KAOS. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ely, Don Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 12:53 PM

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-12 Thread Ed Crowley [MVP]
Are you calling me a coke addict? Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin Blackstone Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 1:03 PM

RE: Mail Processing by Exchange vs. SendMail

2003-12-12 Thread Ed Crowley [MVP]
If you feel that way, a locked down Windows 2003 box running the SMTP service is just as capable as a Unix box running sendmail. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: Mail Processing by Exchange vs. SendMail

2003-12-12 Thread Ed Crowley [MVP]
You can relay off a box that is not exposed to the Internet for incoming mail too. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Webb, Andy

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-12 Thread Martin Blackstone
No, you are the Capt. Don is Julie. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Crowley [MVP] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 3:13 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 Are you calling me a coke addict? Ed

RE: Day 2 Lessons Learned: GW6.5 to Exchange 2000

2003-12-12 Thread Ed Crowley [MVP]
Perhaps you should bill fewer hours to compensate. On the whole, it'd probably be a huge win for everyone. Except for you, of course. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL

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