RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5 is freaking out...

[Alverson, Tom]

I haven't run in mapi only mode since that was the only way it had.  I did
find one KB article on symantecs site and they blamed the memory allocation
problem on exchange and just said to run perfwiz.  I guess I'll run perfwiz
tonight after everyone goes home and see if new definitions came out since
then. 


-Original Message-
From: Couch, Nate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 3:27 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

Have you tried it in MAPI only mode?  Are there any other potentially
related events in the App or Sys logs?

Another possibility looming here is to uninstall and reinstall NAV for
Exchange.



> --
> From: Alverson, Tom
> Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, June 2, 2003 13:45
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5 is freaking out...
> 
> Mapi/vapi
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Couch, Nate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 1:53 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> 
> What mode are you running in?  MAPI?  MAPI/VAPI? 
> 
> Nate
> 
> > --
> > From:   Alverson, Tom
> > Reply To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent:       Monday, June 2, 2003 12:48
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject:RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5 is freaking out...
> > 
> > It's doing it again...
> > 
> > After the below changes NAV ran for about 10 minutes and then gave 
> > me
> the
> > error messages once.   It then ran another 10 minutes and started giving
> > me
> > the errors about every 2 minutes.  I shut down NAV again for a while.  
> > I guess I'll start it up again later tonight and see how it goes.  
> > Symantec will probably have newer definitions available by then.
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Alverson, Tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 1:21 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > 
> > Thanks for all the replies.  
> > 
> > I had tried stopping starting the service earlier but got the errors 
> > as soon as it restarted.  I also just got a message that someone was 
> > having trouble mailing a 7Meg PDF files to another exchange server 
> > in the same orgainization but over a WAN link.  Maybe this email was 
> > causing NAV to freak.
> > 
> > I had already downloaded the latest definitions but didn't update 
> > them right away because they were the "same".  I went ahead and ran 
> > the updater (the
> > exe) while NAV was stopped and also went into the two lastest 
> > definitions directories and deleted a few files that were older than 
> > the
> definitions.
> > Somehow the old files get pulled into the new definition directory 
> > during an update and I don't think they are needed.  As soon as I 
> > started the service NAV moved the files from INCOMING to the dated 
> > directory and hasn't complained yet.
> > 
> > Hopefully this fixes it.  I am guessing that the problem was either 
> > the definitions were messed up or something about the 7meg email was 
> > causing nav to crash.
> > 
> > Tom
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 1:01 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > 
> > Tom,
> > 
> > We have the same setup here that you do.  
> > 
> > 1)  I would take Nate's advice about stopping/starting the NAV 
> > services first.  However, one piece of advice...Go logon locally to 
> > the machine and do it from there.  What we have had happen is that 
> > we restart the services via a remote session and it looks like it 
> > worked, but if you go logon locally, we were seeing the the service 
> > hadn't
> restarted...weird.
> > 
> > 2)  Nate and Bob are correct that it could very well be a corrupt 
> > .dat file...go reinstall it.  We have had one instance here though 
> > where we had to uninstall NAV and reinstall it.
> > 
> > HTH...let us know what worked.
> > 
> > Jim Blunt
> > Bechtel Hanford, Inc.
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Couch, Nate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 9:55 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5 is freaking out...
> > 
> > 
> > I have seen this occur on our servers in two instances.
> > 
> > 1) While you may have done this already. Stop and restart the NAV 
> > services.
> > I have seen where they will whack out and doing thil

RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5 is freaking out...

[Steck, Herb]

I have run into similar issues with NAV on an Ex5.5 box.  Only way I was able to 
resolve it was to uninstall it, reboot, then reinstall.  If you do this method, it 
might be best to download the av updates as well.

-Original Message-
From: Couch, Nate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 2:27 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5 is freaking out...


Have you tried it in MAPI only mode?  Are there any other potentially
related events in the App or Sys logs?

Another possibility looming here is to uninstall and reinstall NAV for
Exchange.



> --
> From: Alverson, Tom
> Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, June 2, 2003 13:45
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5 is freaking out...
> 
> Mapi/vapi 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Couch, Nate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 1:53 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> 
> What mode are you running in?  MAPI?  MAPI/VAPI? 
> 
> Nate
> 
> > --
> > From:   Alverson, Tom
> > Reply To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent:   Monday, June 2, 2003 12:48
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject:RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5 is freaking out...
> > 
> > It's doing it again...
> > 
> > After the below changes NAV ran for about 10 minutes and then gave me
> the
> > error messages once.   It then ran another 10 minutes and started giving
> > me
> > the errors about every 2 minutes.  I shut down NAV again for a while.  
> > I guess I'll start it up again later tonight and see how it goes.  
> > Symantec will probably have newer definitions available by then.
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Alverson, Tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 1:21 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > 
> > Thanks for all the replies.  
> > 
> > I had tried stopping starting the service earlier but got the errors 
> > as soon as it restarted.  I also just got a message that someone was 
> > having trouble mailing a 7Meg PDF files to another exchange server in 
> > the same orgainization but over a WAN link.  Maybe this email was 
> > causing NAV to freak.
> > 
> > I had already downloaded the latest definitions but didn't update them 
> > right away because they were the "same".  I went ahead and ran the 
> > updater (the
> > exe) while NAV was stopped and also went into the two lastest 
> > definitions directories and deleted a few files that were older than the
> definitions.
> > Somehow the old files get pulled into the new definition directory 
> > during an update and I don't think they are needed.  As soon as I 
> > started the service NAV moved the files from INCOMING to the dated 
> > directory and hasn't complained yet.
> > 
> > Hopefully this fixes it.  I am guessing that the problem was either 
> > the definitions were messed up or something about the 7meg email was 
> > causing nav to crash.
> > 
> > Tom
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 1:01 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > 
> > Tom,
> > 
> > We have the same setup here that you do.  
> > 
> > 1)  I would take Nate's advice about stopping/starting the NAV 
> > services first.  However, one piece of advice...Go logon locally to 
> > the machine and do it from there.  What we have had happen is that we 
> > restart the services via a remote session and it looks like it worked, 
> > but if you go logon locally, we were seeing the the service hadn't
> restarted...weird.
> > 
> > 2)  Nate and Bob are correct that it could very well be a corrupt .dat 
> > file...go reinstall it.  We have had one instance here though where we 
> > had to uninstall NAV and reinstall it.
> > 
> > HTH...let us know what worked.
> > 
> > Jim Blunt
> > Bechtel Hanford, Inc.
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Couch, Nate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 9:55 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5 is freaking out...
> > 
> > 
> > I have seen this occur on our servers in two instances.
> > 
> > 1) While you may have done this already. Stop and restart the NAV 
> > services.
> > I have seen where they will whack out and doing thill settle them down.
> > 
> > 2) The other thing I have seen and you ha

RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5 is freaking out...

[Couch, Nate]

Have you tried it in MAPI only mode?  Are there any other potentially
related events in the App or Sys logs?

Another possibility looming here is to uninstall and reinstall NAV for
Exchange.



> --
> From: Alverson, Tom
> Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, June 2, 2003 13:45
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5 is freaking out...
> 
> Mapi/vapi 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Couch, Nate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 1:53 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> 
> What mode are you running in?  MAPI?  MAPI/VAPI? 
> 
> Nate
> 
> > --
> > From:   Alverson, Tom
> > Reply To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent:   Monday, June 2, 2003 12:48
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject:RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5 is freaking out...
> > 
> > It's doing it again...
> > 
> > After the below changes NAV ran for about 10 minutes and then gave me
> the
> > error messages once.   It then ran another 10 minutes and started giving
> > me
> > the errors about every 2 minutes.  I shut down NAV again for a while.  
> > I guess I'll start it up again later tonight and see how it goes.  
> > Symantec will probably have newer definitions available by then.
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Alverson, Tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 1:21 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > 
> > Thanks for all the replies.  
> > 
> > I had tried stopping starting the service earlier but got the errors 
> > as soon as it restarted.  I also just got a message that someone was 
> > having trouble mailing a 7Meg PDF files to another exchange server in 
> > the same orgainization but over a WAN link.  Maybe this email was 
> > causing NAV to freak.
> > 
> > I had already downloaded the latest definitions but didn't update them 
> > right away because they were the "same".  I went ahead and ran the 
> > updater (the
> > exe) while NAV was stopped and also went into the two lastest 
> > definitions directories and deleted a few files that were older than the
> definitions.
> > Somehow the old files get pulled into the new definition directory 
> > during an update and I don't think they are needed.  As soon as I 
> > started the service NAV moved the files from INCOMING to the dated 
> > directory and hasn't complained yet.
> > 
> > Hopefully this fixes it.  I am guessing that the problem was either 
> > the definitions were messed up or something about the 7meg email was 
> > causing nav to crash.
> > 
> > Tom
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 1:01 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > 
> > Tom,
> > 
> > We have the same setup here that you do.  
> > 
> > 1)  I would take Nate's advice about stopping/starting the NAV 
> > services first.  However, one piece of advice...Go logon locally to 
> > the machine and do it from there.  What we have had happen is that we 
> > restart the services via a remote session and it looks like it worked, 
> > but if you go logon locally, we were seeing the the service hadn't
> restarted...weird.
> > 
> > 2)  Nate and Bob are correct that it could very well be a corrupt .dat 
> > file...go reinstall it.  We have had one instance here though where we 
> > had to uninstall NAV and reinstall it.
> > 
> > HTH...let us know what worked.
> > 
> > Jim Blunt
> > Bechtel Hanford, Inc.
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Couch, Nate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 9:55 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5 is freaking out...
> > 
> > 
> > I have seen this occur on our servers in two instances.
> > 
> > 1) While you may have done this already. Stop and restart the NAV 
> > services.
> > I have seen where they will whack out and doing thill settle them down.
> > 
> > 2) The other thing I have seen and you have alluded to it here is that 
> > the virus DAT file may be corrupt resulting in NAV losing 
> > functionality.  When this happened to me we downloaded the DAT from 
> > Symantec again and reinstalled it.  This worked.  I have also had it 
> > happen where we had to go back one version of the DAT because the 
> > current DAT was corrupt from Symantec.  Or at least it was ge

RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5 is freaking out...

[Alverson, Tom]

Mapi/vapi 


-Original Message-
From: Couch, Nate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 1:53 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

What mode are you running in?  MAPI?  MAPI/VAPI? 

Nate

> --
> From: Alverson, Tom
> Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, June 2, 2003 12:48
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5 is freaking out...
> 
> It's doing it again...
> 
> After the below changes NAV ran for about 10 minutes and then gave me the
> error messages once.   It then ran another 10 minutes and started giving
> me
> the errors about every 2 minutes.  I shut down NAV again for a while.  
> I guess I'll start it up again later tonight and see how it goes.  
> Symantec will probably have newer definitions available by then.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Alverson, Tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 1:21 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> 
> Thanks for all the replies.  
> 
> I had tried stopping starting the service earlier but got the errors 
> as soon as it restarted.  I also just got a message that someone was 
> having trouble mailing a 7Meg PDF files to another exchange server in 
> the same orgainization but over a WAN link.  Maybe this email was 
> causing NAV to freak.
> 
> I had already downloaded the latest definitions but didn't update them 
> right away because they were the "same".  I went ahead and ran the 
> updater (the
> exe) while NAV was stopped and also went into the two lastest 
> definitions directories and deleted a few files that were older than the
definitions.
> Somehow the old files get pulled into the new definition directory 
> during an update and I don't think they are needed.  As soon as I 
> started the service NAV moved the files from INCOMING to the dated 
> directory and hasn't complained yet.
> 
> Hopefully this fixes it.  I am guessing that the problem was either 
> the definitions were messed up or something about the 7meg email was 
> causing nav to crash.
> 
> Tom
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 1:01 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> 
> Tom,
> 
> We have the same setup here that you do.  
> 
> 1)  I would take Nate's advice about stopping/starting the NAV 
> services first.  However, one piece of advice...Go logon locally to 
> the machine and do it from there.  What we have had happen is that we 
> restart the services via a remote session and it looks like it worked, 
> but if you go logon locally, we were seeing the the service hadn't
restarted...weird.
> 
> 2)  Nate and Bob are correct that it could very well be a corrupt .dat 
> file...go reinstall it.  We have had one instance here though where we 
> had to uninstall NAV and reinstall it.
> 
> HTH...let us know what worked.
> 
> Jim Blunt
> Bechtel Hanford, Inc.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Couch, Nate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 9:55 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5 is freaking out...
> 
> 
> I have seen this occur on our servers in two instances.
> 
> 1) While you may have done this already. Stop and restart the NAV 
> services.
> I have seen where they will whack out and doing thill settle them down.
> 
> 2) The other thing I have seen and you have alluded to it here is that 
> the virus DAT file may be corrupt resulting in NAV losing 
> functionality.  When this happened to me we downloaded the DAT from 
> Symantec again and reinstalled it.  This worked.  I have also had it 
> happen where we had to go back one version of the DAT because the 
> current DAT was corrupt from Symantec.  Or at least it was getting 
> corrupted somewhere along the way between Symantec and my server.  
> Either way we had to go back one.
> 
> I hope something here helps.
> 
> Nate Couch
> EDS Messaging
> 
> > --
> > From:   Alverson, Tom
> > Reply To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent:   Monday, June 2, 2003 11:49
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject:NAV for Exchange 5.5 is freaking out...
> > 
> > I am running Exchange 5.5 sp4 on a win2k server.  I am running NAV 
> > for Exchange version 2.18 and no other antivirus software on the server.
> > It has been running fine for months without problems.  Today it 
> > started spewing the two following errors to the screen over and over 
> > and over:
> > 
> > NAVEVAPI error
> > NAVEVAPI.DLL Internal Error.
> > 
> > A Microsoft Exchange store memory allocation has 

RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5 is freaking out...

[Couch, Nate]

What mode are you running in?  MAPI?  MAPI/VAPI? 

Nate

> --
> From: Alverson, Tom
> Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, June 2, 2003 12:48
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5 is freaking out...
> 
> It's doing it again...
> 
> After the below changes NAV ran for about 10 minutes and then gave me the
> error messages once.   It then ran another 10 minutes and started giving
> me
> the errors about every 2 minutes.  I shut down NAV again for a while.  I
> guess I'll start it up again later tonight and see how it goes.  Symantec
> will probably have newer definitions available by then. 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Alverson, Tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 1:21 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> 
> Thanks for all the replies.  
> 
> I had tried stopping starting the service earlier but got the errors as
> soon
> as it restarted.  I also just got a message that someone was having
> trouble
> mailing a 7Meg PDF files to another exchange server in the same
> orgainization but over a WAN link.  Maybe this email was causing NAV to
> freak.
> 
> I had already downloaded the latest definitions but didn't update them
> right
> away because they were the "same".  I went ahead and ran the updater (the
> exe) while NAV was stopped and also went into the two lastest definitions
> directories and deleted a few files that were older than the definitions.
> Somehow the old files get pulled into the new definition directory during
> an
> update and I don't think they are needed.  As soon as I started the
> service
> NAV moved the files from INCOMING to the dated directory and hasn't
> complained yet.  
> 
> Hopefully this fixes it.  I am guessing that the problem was either the
> definitions were messed up or something about the 7meg email was causing
> nav
> to crash.
> 
> Tom 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 1:01 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> 
> Tom,
> 
> We have the same setup here that you do.  
> 
> 1)  I would take Nate's advice about stopping/starting the NAV services
> first.  However, one piece of advice...Go logon locally to the machine and
> do it from there.  What we have had happen is that we restart the services
> via a remote session and it looks like it worked, but if you go logon
> locally, we were seeing the the service hadn't restarted...weird.
> 
> 2)  Nate and Bob are correct that it could very well be a corrupt .dat
> file...go reinstall it.  We have had one instance here though where we had
> to uninstall NAV and reinstall it.
> 
> HTH...let us know what worked.
> 
> Jim Blunt
> Bechtel Hanford, Inc.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Couch, Nate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 9:55 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5 is freaking out...
> 
> 
> I have seen this occur on our servers in two instances.
> 
> 1) While you may have done this already. Stop and restart the NAV
> services.
> I have seen where they will whack out and doing thill settle them down.
> 
> 2) The other thing I have seen and you have alluded to it here is that the
> virus DAT file may be corrupt resulting in NAV losing functionality.  When
> this happened to me we downloaded the DAT from Symantec again and
> reinstalled it.  This worked.  I have also had it happen where we had to
> go
> back one version of the DAT because the current DAT was corrupt from
> Symantec.  Or at least it was getting corrupted somewhere along the way
> between Symantec and my server.  Either way we had to go back one.
> 
> I hope something here helps.
> 
> Nate Couch
> EDS Messaging
> 
> > --
> > From:   Alverson, Tom
> > Reply To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent:   Monday, June 2, 2003 11:49
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject:NAV for Exchange 5.5 is freaking out...
> > 
> > I am running Exchange 5.5 sp4 on a win2k server.  I am running NAV for 
> > Exchange version 2.18 and no other antivirus software on the server.
> > It has been running fine for months without problems.  Today it 
> > started spewing the two following errors to the screen over and over 
> > and over:
> > 
> > NAVEVAPI error
> > NAVEVAPI.DLL Internal Error.
> > 
> > A Microsoft Exchange store memory allocation has failed.
> > 
> > (C:\NAVMSE\Source\NAVEVAPI\NAVEVAPI.CPP, 675)
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > NAVEVAPI error
> > N

RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5 is freaking out...

[Alverson, Tom]

It's doing it again...

After the below changes NAV ran for about 10 minutes and then gave me the
error messages once.   It then ran another 10 minutes and started giving me
the errors about every 2 minutes.  I shut down NAV again for a while.  I
guess I'll start it up again later tonight and see how it goes.  Symantec
will probably have newer definitions available by then. 


-Original Message-
From: Alverson, Tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 1:21 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

Thanks for all the replies.  

I had tried stopping starting the service earlier but got the errors as soon
as it restarted.  I also just got a message that someone was having trouble
mailing a 7Meg PDF files to another exchange server in the same
orgainization but over a WAN link.  Maybe this email was causing NAV to
freak.

I had already downloaded the latest definitions but didn't update them right
away because they were the "same".  I went ahead and ran the updater (the
exe) while NAV was stopped and also went into the two lastest definitions
directories and deleted a few files that were older than the definitions.
Somehow the old files get pulled into the new definition directory during an
update and I don't think they are needed.  As soon as I started the service
NAV moved the files from INCOMING to the dated directory and hasn't
complained yet.  

Hopefully this fixes it.  I am guessing that the problem was either the
definitions were messed up or something about the 7meg email was causing nav
to crash.

Tom 


-Original Message-
From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 1:01 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

Tom,

We have the same setup here that you do.  

1)  I would take Nate's advice about stopping/starting the NAV services
first.  However, one piece of advice...Go logon locally to the machine and
do it from there.  What we have had happen is that we restart the services
via a remote session and it looks like it worked, but if you go logon
locally, we were seeing the the service hadn't restarted...weird.

2)  Nate and Bob are correct that it could very well be a corrupt .dat
file...go reinstall it.  We have had one instance here though where we had
to uninstall NAV and reinstall it.

HTH...let us know what worked.

Jim Blunt
Bechtel Hanford, Inc.

-Original Message-
From: Couch, Nate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 9:55 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5 is freaking out...


I have seen this occur on our servers in two instances.

1) While you may have done this already. Stop and restart the NAV services.
I have seen where they will whack out and doing thill settle them down.

2) The other thing I have seen and you have alluded to it here is that the
virus DAT file may be corrupt resulting in NAV losing functionality.  When
this happened to me we downloaded the DAT from Symantec again and
reinstalled it.  This worked.  I have also had it happen where we had to go
back one version of the DAT because the current DAT was corrupt from
Symantec.  Or at least it was getting corrupted somewhere along the way
between Symantec and my server.  Either way we had to go back one.

I hope something here helps.

Nate Couch
EDS Messaging

> --
> From: Alverson, Tom
> Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, June 2, 2003 11:49
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  NAV for Exchange 5.5 is freaking out...
> 
> I am running Exchange 5.5 sp4 on a win2k server.  I am running NAV for 
> Exchange version 2.18 and no other antivirus software on the server.
> It has been running fine for months without problems.  Today it 
> started spewing the two following errors to the screen over and over 
> and over:
> 
> NAVEVAPI error
> NAVEVAPI.DLL Internal Error.
> 
> A Microsoft Exchange store memory allocation has failed.
> 
> (C:\NAVMSE\Source\NAVEVAPI\NAVEVAPI.CPP, 675)
> 
> 
> 
> NAVEVAPI error
> NAVEVAPI.DLL Internal Error.
> 
> Error Code = 0xc0090094, Additional = (null)
> 
> (C:\NAVMSE\Source\NAVEVAPI\NAVEVAPI.CPP, 1131)
> 
> 
> I was also getting a bunch of alerts from my Blackberry server 
> (running on a different machine) that I believe were just a side 
> effect of the NAV broo-ha-ha.  The virus defs are the latest from 
> yesterday 6-1-2003 rev2. I have seen these navevapi.dll errors 
> sporadically (one ever couple of days) but they did not seem to cause 
> any problems.  Now the errors are occurring about every second while 
> the NAV service is running.  I stopped NAV for now and have not seen 
> any errors in the event log for about 15 minutes now (including 
> blackberry).
> 
> Has anyone seen this or does anyone have suggestions for getting NAV 
> running again??
> 
> Tom
> 
> 

RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5 is freaking out...

[Alverson, Tom]

Thanks for all the replies.  

I had tried stopping starting the service earlier but got the errors as soon
as it restarted.  I also just got a message that someone was having trouble
mailing a 7Meg PDF files to another exchange server in the same
orgainization but over a WAN link.  Maybe this email was causing NAV to
freak.

I had already downloaded the latest definitions but didn't update them right
away because they were the "same".  I went ahead and ran the updater (the
exe) while NAV was stopped and also went into the two lastest definitions
directories and deleted a few files that were older than the definitions.
Somehow the old files get pulled into the new definition directory during an
update and I don't think they are needed.  As soon as I started the service
NAV moved the files from INCOMING to the dated directory and hasn't
complained yet.  

Hopefully this fixes it.  I am guessing that the problem was either the
definitions were messed up or something about the 7meg email was causing nav
to crash.

Tom 


-Original Message-
From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 1:01 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

Tom,

We have the same setup here that you do.  

1)  I would take Nate's advice about stopping/starting the NAV services
first.  However, one piece of advice...Go logon locally to the machine and
do it from there.  What we have had happen is that we restart the services
via a remote session and it looks like it worked, but if you go logon
locally, we were seeing the the service hadn't restarted...weird.

2)  Nate and Bob are correct that it could very well be a corrupt .dat
file...go reinstall it.  We have had one instance here though where we had
to uninstall NAV and reinstall it.

HTH...let us know what worked.

Jim Blunt
Bechtel Hanford, Inc.

-Original Message-
From: Couch, Nate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 9:55 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5 is freaking out...


I have seen this occur on our servers in two instances.

1) While you may have done this already. Stop and restart the NAV services.
I have seen where they will whack out and doing thill settle them down.

2) The other thing I have seen and you have alluded to it here is that the
virus DAT file may be corrupt resulting in NAV losing functionality.  When
this happened to me we downloaded the DAT from Symantec again and
reinstalled it.  This worked.  I have also had it happen where we had to go
back one version of the DAT because the current DAT was corrupt from
Symantec.  Or at least it was getting corrupted somewhere along the way
between Symantec and my server.  Either way we had to go back one.

I hope something here helps.

Nate Couch
EDS Messaging

> --
> From: Alverson, Tom
> Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, June 2, 2003 11:49
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  NAV for Exchange 5.5 is freaking out...
> 
> I am running Exchange 5.5 sp4 on a win2k server.  I am running NAV for 
> Exchange version 2.18 and no other antivirus software on the server.  
> It has been running fine for months without problems.  Today it 
> started spewing the
> two following errors to the screen over and over and over:
> 
> NAVEVAPI error
> NAVEVAPI.DLL Internal Error.
> 
> A Microsoft Exchange store memory allocation has failed.
> 
> (C:\NAVMSE\Source\NAVEVAPI\NAVEVAPI.CPP, 675)
> 
> 
> 
> NAVEVAPI error
> NAVEVAPI.DLL Internal Error.
> 
> Error Code = 0xc0090094, Additional = (null)
> 
> (C:\NAVMSE\Source\NAVEVAPI\NAVEVAPI.CPP, 1131)
> 
> 
> I was also getting a bunch of alerts from my Blackberry server 
> (running on a different machine) that I believe were just a side 
> effect of the NAV broo-ha-ha.  The virus defs are the latest from 
> yesterday 6-1-2003 rev2. I
> have seen these navevapi.dll errors sporadically (one ever couple of days)
> but they did not seem to cause any problems.  Now the errors are occurring
> about every second while the NAV service is running.  I stopped NAV for
> now
> and have not seen any errors in the event log for about 15 minutes now
> (including blackberry).
> 
> Has anyone seen this or does anyone have suggestions for getting NAV 
> running again??
> 
> Tom
> 
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RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5 is freaking out...

[Blunt, James H (Jim)]

Tom,

We have the same setup here that you do.  

1)  I would take Nate's advice about stopping/starting the NAV services
first.  However, one piece of advice...Go logon locally to the machine and
do it from there.  What we have had happen is that we restart the services
via a remote session and it looks like it worked, but if you go logon
locally, we were seeing the the service hadn't restarted...weird.

2)  Nate and Bob are correct that it could very well be a corrupt .dat
file...go reinstall it.  We have had one instance here though where we had
to uninstall NAV and reinstall it.

HTH...let us know what worked.

Jim Blunt
Bechtel Hanford, Inc.

-Original Message-
From: Couch, Nate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 9:55 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5 is freaking out...


I have seen this occur on our servers in two instances.

1) While you may have done this already. Stop and restart the NAV services.
I have seen where they will whack out and doing thill settle them down.

2) The other thing I have seen and you have alluded to it here is that the
virus DAT file may be corrupt resulting in NAV losing functionality.  When
this happened to me we downloaded the DAT from Symantec again and
reinstalled it.  This worked.  I have also had it happen where we had to go
back one version of the DAT because the current DAT was corrupt from
Symantec.  Or at least it was getting corrupted somewhere along the way
between Symantec and my server.  Either way we had to go back one.

I hope something here helps.

Nate Couch
EDS Messaging

> --
> From: Alverson, Tom
> Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, June 2, 2003 11:49
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  NAV for Exchange 5.5 is freaking out...
> 
> I am running Exchange 5.5 sp4 on a win2k server.  I am running NAV for 
> Exchange version 2.18 and no other antivirus software on the server.  
> It has been running fine for months without problems.  Today it 
> started spewing the
> two following errors to the screen over and over and over:
> 
> NAVEVAPI error
> NAVEVAPI.DLL Internal Error.
> 
> A Microsoft Exchange store memory allocation has failed.
> 
> (C:\NAVMSE\Source\NAVEVAPI\NAVEVAPI.CPP, 675)
> 
> 
> 
> NAVEVAPI error
> NAVEVAPI.DLL Internal Error.
> 
> Error Code = 0xc0090094, Additional = (null)
> 
> (C:\NAVMSE\Source\NAVEVAPI\NAVEVAPI.CPP, 1131)
> 
> 
> I was also getting a bunch of alerts from my Blackberry server 
> (running on a different machine) that I believe were just a side 
> effect of the NAV broo-ha-ha.  The virus defs are the latest from 
> yesterday 6-1-2003 rev2. I
> have seen these navevapi.dll errors sporadically (one ever couple of days)
> but they did not seem to cause any problems.  Now the errors are occurring
> about every second while the NAV service is running.  I stopped NAV for
> now
> and have not seen any errors in the event log for about 15 minutes now
> (including blackberry).
> 
> Has anyone seen this or does anyone have suggestions for getting NAV 
> running again??
> 
> Tom
> 
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RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5 is freaking out...

[Couch, Nate]

I have seen this occur on our servers in two instances.

1) While you may have done this already. Stop and restart the NAV services.
I have seen where they will whack out and doing thill settle them down.

2) The other thing I have seen and you have alluded to it here is that the
virus DAT file may be corrupt resulting in NAV losing functionality.  When
this happened to me we downloaded the DAT from Symantec again and
reinstalled it.  This worked.  I have also had it happen where we had to go
back one version of the DAT because the current DAT was corrupt from
Symantec.  Or at least it was getting corrupted somewhere along the way
between Symantec and my server.  Either way we had to go back one.

I hope something here helps.

Nate Couch
EDS Messaging

> --
> From: Alverson, Tom
> Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, June 2, 2003 11:49
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  NAV for Exchange 5.5 is freaking out...
> 
> I am running Exchange 5.5 sp4 on a win2k server.  I am running NAV for
> Exchange version 2.18 and no other antivirus software on the server.  It
> has
> been running fine for months without problems.  Today it started spewing
> the
> two following errors to the screen over and over and over:
> 
> NAVEVAPI error
> NAVEVAPI.DLL Internal Error.
> 
> A Microsoft Exchange store memory allocation has failed.
> 
> (C:\NAVMSE\Source\NAVEVAPI\NAVEVAPI.CPP, 675)
> 
> 
> 
> NAVEVAPI error
> NAVEVAPI.DLL Internal Error.
> 
> Error Code = 0xc0090094, Additional = (null)
> 
> (C:\NAVMSE\Source\NAVEVAPI\NAVEVAPI.CPP, 1131)
> 
> 
> I was also getting a bunch of alerts from my Blackberry server (running on
> a
> different machine) that I believe were just a side effect of the NAV
> broo-ha-ha.  The virus defs are the latest from yesterday 6-1-2003 rev2.
> I
> have seen these navevapi.dll errors sporadically (one ever couple of days)
> but they did not seem to cause any problems.  Now the errors are occurring
> about every second while the NAV service is running.  I stopped NAV for
> now
> and have not seen any errors in the event log for about 15 minutes now
> (including blackberry).
> 
> Has anyone seen this or does anyone have suggestions for getting NAV
> running
> again??
> 
> Tom
> 
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RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5 is freaking out...

[Bob Sadler]

Are you talking of the Exchange Agent from NAV or the NAV Product for
virus protection?

If you are talking about the Exchange Agent, it could be that your
definitions file has been corrupted.  Try to do a liveupdate again.  If
that doesn't work, then attempt to retrieve the latest def. file
manually and place it in it's proper place.

If this doesn't work, it's time to call Symantec for more support than
can be brought on an Exchange List.



Bob Sadler
City of Leawood, KS, USA
WAN/Internet Specialist
913-339-6700 x194


-Original Message-
From: Alverson, Tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 11:49 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: NAV for Exchange 5.5 is freaking out...


I am running Exchange 5.5 sp4 on a win2k server.  I am running NAV for
Exchange version 2.18 and no other antivirus software on the server.  It
has been running fine for months without problems.  Today it started
spewing the two following errors to the screen over and over and over:

NAVEVAPI error
NAVEVAPI.DLL Internal Error.

A Microsoft Exchange store memory allocation has failed.

(C:\NAVMSE\Source\NAVEVAPI\NAVEVAPI.CPP, 675)



NAVEVAPI error
NAVEVAPI.DLL Internal Error.

Error Code = 0xc0090094, Additional = (null)

(C:\NAVMSE\Source\NAVEVAPI\NAVEVAPI.CPP, 1131)


I was also getting a bunch of alerts from my Blackberry server (running
on a different machine) that I believe were just a side effect of the
NAV broo-ha-ha.  The virus defs are the latest from yesterday 6-1-2003
rev2.  I have seen these navevapi.dll errors sporadically (one ever
couple of days) but they did not seem to cause any problems.  Now the
errors are occurring about every second while the NAV service is
running.  I stopped NAV for now and have not seen any errors in the
event log for about 15 minutes now (including blackberry).

Has anyone seen this or does anyone have suggestions for getting NAV
running again??

Tom

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[Alverson, Tom]

I am running Exchange 5.5 sp4 on a win2k server.  I am running NAV for
Exchange version 2.18 and no other antivirus software on the server.  It has
been running fine for months without problems.  Today it started spewing the
two following errors to the screen over and over and over:

NAVEVAPI error
NAVEVAPI.DLL Internal Error.

A Microsoft Exchange store memory allocation has failed.

(C:\NAVMSE\Source\NAVEVAPI\NAVEVAPI.CPP, 675)



NAVEVAPI error
NAVEVAPI.DLL Internal Error.

Error Code = 0xc0090094, Additional = (null)

(C:\NAVMSE\Source\NAVEVAPI\NAVEVAPI.CPP, 1131)


I was also getting a bunch of alerts from my Blackberry server (running on a
different machine) that I believe were just a side effect of the NAV
broo-ha-ha.  The virus defs are the latest from yesterday 6-1-2003 rev2.  I
have seen these navevapi.dll errors sporadically (one ever couple of days)
but they did not seem to cause any problems.  Now the errors are occurring
about every second while the NAV service is running.  I stopped NAV for now
and have not seen any errors in the event log for about 15 minutes now
(including blackberry).

Has anyone seen this or does anyone have suggestions for getting NAV running
again??

Tom

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RE: Latest NAV for Exchange 5.5 ??

[Alverson, Tom]

I had to call and ask for 2.17 even though we pay extra for "support".  I
guess I need to call again and try to get the update.  They sent me new CD's
not too long ago but they had a real old version on them.  Any idea what the
changes are in 2.18??

Tom

-Original Message-
From: Schuessler, Bob (Efdsouth)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 9:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Latest NAV for Exchange 5.5 ??



Version: 2.18 (Build 76) 

-Original Message-
From: Alverson, Tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 09:37 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Latest NAV for Exchange 5.5 ??


I am running NAVMSE version 2.17 build 75 on my exchange 5.5 server.  Are
there any newer versions available for exchange 5.5?  I have background
scanning enabled (and combo mode) and still get errors (from outlook) when
sending emails with attachments.  Outlook tells me the delivery failed, and
the message seems to disappear for a while (does not even show up in sent
items) but after a few minutes it does get delivered OK (and then shows up
in sent items).  I probably just need a faster server as it seems that
outlook is timing out while the server struggles to keep up with scanning.


Tom

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RE: Latest NAV for Exchange 5.5 ??

[Alverson, Tom]

I had long ago set BackgroundScanning to 1 and OpenRetryDelay to 5000 in the
registry of the exchange server per:

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;EN-US;Q264731&;

Is there something else??

-Original Message-
From: Randal, Phil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 9:37 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Latest NAV for Exchange 5.5 ??


Do a KB search for OpenRetryDelay.  It might solve
your problem.

Cheers,

Phil

-
Phil Randal
Network Engineer
Herefordshire Council
Hereford, UK 

> -Original Message-
> From: Alverson, Tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 11 September 2002 14:37
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Latest NAV for Exchange 5.5 ??
> 
> 
> I am running NAVMSE version 2.17 build 75 on my exchange 5.5
> server.  Are
> there any newer versions available for exchange 5.5?  I have 
> background
> scanning enabled (and combo mode) and still get errors (from 
> outlook) when
> sending emails with attachments.  Outlook tells me the 
> delivery failed, and
> the message seems to disappear for a while (does not even 
> show up in sent
> items) but after a few minutes it does get delivered OK (and 
> then shows up
> in sent items).  I probably just need a faster server as it seems that
> outlook is timing out while the server struggles to keep up 
> with scanning.
> 
> 
> Tom
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[Randal, Phil]

Do a KB search for OpenRetryDelay.  It might solve
your problem.

Cheers,

Phil

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Herefordshire Council
Hereford, UK 

> -Original Message-
> From: Alverson, Tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 11 September 2002 14:37
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Latest NAV for Exchange 5.5 ??
> 
> 
> I am running NAVMSE version 2.17 build 75 on my exchange 5.5 
> server.  Are
> there any newer versions available for exchange 5.5?  I have 
> background
> scanning enabled (and combo mode) and still get errors (from 
> outlook) when
> sending emails with attachments.  Outlook tells me the 
> delivery failed, and
> the message seems to disappear for a while (does not even 
> show up in sent
> items) but after a few minutes it does get delivered OK (and 
> then shows up
> in sent items).  I probably just need a faster server as it seems that
> outlook is timing out while the server struggles to keep up 
> with scanning.
> 
> 
> Tom
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RE: Latest NAV for Exchange 5.5 ??

[Schuessler, Bob (Efdsouth)]

Version: 2.18 (Build 76) 

-Original Message-
From: Alverson, Tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 09:37 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Latest NAV for Exchange 5.5 ??


I am running NAVMSE version 2.17 build 75 on my exchange 5.5 server.  Are
there any newer versions available for exchange 5.5?  I have background
scanning enabled (and combo mode) and still get errors (from outlook) when
sending emails with attachments.  Outlook tells me the delivery failed, and
the message seems to disappear for a while (does not even show up in sent
items) but after a few minutes it does get delivered OK (and then shows up
in sent items).  I probably just need a faster server as it seems that
outlook is timing out while the server struggles to keep up with scanning.


Tom

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[Alverson, Tom]

I am running NAVMSE version 2.17 build 75 on my exchange 5.5 server.  Are
there any newer versions available for exchange 5.5?  I have background
scanning enabled (and combo mode) and still get errors (from outlook) when
sending emails with attachments.  Outlook tells me the delivery failed, and
the message seems to disappear for a while (does not even show up in sent
items) but after a few minutes it does get delivered OK (and then shows up
in sent items).  I probably just need a faster server as it seems that
outlook is timing out while the server struggles to keep up with scanning.


Tom

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RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

[Steve Sorenson]

I agree with Tom. We've been using NAV corporate (NAV for Gateways, NAV
Exchange and NAV on the desktops) for a year and have no, none, nada,
zippo outbreaks. It's performed flawlessy through bombardment of the
many viruses of 2001.

Steve

> -Original Message-
> From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:58 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5
> 
> 
> So your solution with "a few outbreaks" is better than NAV?  
> We use NAV and have had none.  Not even close.  I just watch 
> the stuff get ditched
> into the quarantine.Sounds like I'm eating well-prepared 
> ground beef
> and you're eating wormy prime rib.
> 
> I've never had a crashed server, never had a blue screen, 
> etc.  So far, you make a good case for moving off of your 
> preferred solution.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Posted At: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:43 AM
> Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
> Conversation: NAV for Exchange 5.5
> Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5
> 
> 
> I feel the same way. I really researched for the best 
> solution back then, and scanmail it has proven to be 
> great...no crashed servers, no bluescreens etc. We did have a 
> few outbreaks, but that was I think due to scanmail being on 
> a P-133 and not being able to keep up with the influx. IF I 
> can build a strong enough case against NAV for scanning...and 
> just do the server/client side solution only, that would be 
> great. I almost want to install it, and have things crash for 
> them not asking me about this...but IM the one that has to 
> recover the thing! :( Ron
> 
> -Original Message-----
> From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:31 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5
> 
> Going from Scanmail to NAV is like going from Prime Rib to 
> ground round Your company will be very sorry it made this 
> move. Since you already have Scanmail, there is no reason to 
> dump it. I would SERIOUSLY put my foot down on this and fight 
> it all the way to the top.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:17 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: NAV for Exchange 5.5
> 
> 
> Hi Folks,
> I just found out we are going with The Norton Solution for 
> our company anti-virus protection. This is fine for server 
> and client, but I was also told we would be using NAV's 
> solution for Exchange. (Groupware I think). 
> Since I was not involved in this decision, but was the sole 
> decision maker when I chose Scanmail...im not too happy. 
> But...I turn to y'all again, as I did a few years ago for 
> info on the best AV solution. This time I'm asking what kind 
> of problems will I see with this new NAV scan engine that was 
> chosen for MY Email servers? Is the NAV a solid, non-flaky 
> product for Exchange? I couldn't really find anything major 
> from the net..but y'all would know best. 
> Thanks!
> Ron
> 
> 
> 
> 
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RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

[Ron Grant]

Normally, if the handshake to the cable guy has a 20 dollar bill attached to
it, you will get your cable as a secret for freewait..oh,cabal not
cable! Sorry!


-Original Message-
From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 1:08 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

I think he meant the Secret Cabal handshake. Oh wait, there is no Secret
Cabal.

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:02 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


::High Five::

-Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:57 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


We ain't huggin!  ;o)  How about a secret handshake or something?  

D

"Incompetence: When you Earnestly Believe you can compensate for a lack of
skill by doubling your efforts, there's no end to what you can't do." - -
http://www.despair.com

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:55 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Id give you a big hug if it wouldn't be all awkward, then would have to
punch each other to maintain a manly appearance.

-Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Sorry bud, but you're likely to make Martin mad since it's his list.  Though
everyone's should look about the same with varying differences here and
there.

D

"Saving the world from Brick Level Backups and PST's" - Ed Crowley

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


I am using that, and got file blocking really tricked out with Don Ely's
list of attachments to block! 
Thanks for everyone's input. I will try to talk then into keeping scanmail,
and using NAV for servers and clients as a compromise. If they don't go for
it, I will hope for a trouble free system like Tom and James have(but will
keep Scanmail handy just incase) 
Thanks!
Ron

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 12:28 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Using AVAPI and File Blocking? If not, you should be.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:10 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


I have version 3.52 with 5.5 sp4 on a Win2k Advanced server SP2. 

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 12:06 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Ron, what version of Scanmail are you running and what SP is your Exch
server on?

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


I feel the same way. I really researched for the best solution back then,
and scanmail it has proven to be great...no crashed servers, no bluescreens
etc. We did have a few outbreaks, but that was I think due to scanmail being
on a P-133 and not being able to keep up with the influx. IF I can build a
strong enough case against NAV for scanning...and just do the server/client
side solution only, that would be great. I almost want to install it, and
have things crash for them not asking me about this...but IM the one that
has to recover the thing! :( Ron

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:31 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Going from Scanmail to NAV is like going from Prime Rib to ground round
Your company will be very sorry it made this move. Since you already have
Scanmail, there is no reason to dump it. I would SERIOUSLY put my foot down
on this and fight it all the way to the top.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Hi Folks,
I just found out we are going with The Norton Solution for our company
anti-virus protection. This is fine for server and client, but I was also
told we would be using NAV's solution for Exchange. (Groupware I think). 
Since I was not involved in this decision, but was the sole decision maker
when I chose Scanmail...im not too happy. But...I turn to y'all again, as I
did a few years ago for info on the best AV solution. This time I'm asking
what kind of problems will I see with this new NAV scan engine that was
c

RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

[Martin Blackstone]

Of course not.

-Original Message-
From: Drewski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:09 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


There is no Secret Cabal handshake.

-- Drew

Visit http://www.drewncapris.net!  Go!  Go there now!
"Tyranny grows in strength by the oppression of those who dare speak out in
opposition of it."  Rick Watson

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Don Ely
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 12:57 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


We ain't huggin!  ;o)  How about a secret handshake or something?

D

"Incompetence: When you Earnestly Believe you can compensate for a lack of
skill by doubling your efforts, there's no end to what you can't do." - -
http://www.despair.com

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:55 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Id give you a big hug if it wouldn't be all awkward, then would have to
punch each other to maintain a manly appearance.

-Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Sorry bud, but you're likely to make Martin mad since it's his list.  Though
everyone's should look about the same with varying differences here and
there.

D

"Saving the world from Brick Level Backups and PST's" - Ed Crowley

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


I am using that, and got file blocking really tricked out with Don Ely's
list of attachments to block! Thanks for everyone's input. I will try to
talk then into keeping scanmail, and using NAV for servers and clients as a
compromise. If they don't go for it, I will hope for a trouble free system
like Tom and James have(but will keep Scanmail handy just incase) Thanks!
Ron

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 12:28 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Using AVAPI and File Blocking? If not, you should be.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:10 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


I have version 3.52 with 5.5 sp4 on a Win2k Advanced server SP2.

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 12:06 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Ron, what version of Scanmail are you running and what SP is your Exch
server on?

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


I feel the same way. I really researched for the best solution back then,
and scanmail it has proven to be great...no crashed servers, no bluescreens
etc. We did have a few outbreaks, but that was I think due to scanmail being
on a P-133 and not being able to keep up with the influx. IF I can build a
strong enough case against NAV for scanning...and just do the server/client
side solution only, that would be great. I almost want to install it, and
have things crash for them not asking me about this...but IM the one that
has to recover the thing! :( Ron

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:31 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Going from Scanmail to NAV is like going from Prime Rib to ground round
Your company will be very sorry it made this move. Since you already have
Scanmail, there is no reason to dump it. I would SERIOUSLY put my foot down
on this and fight it all the way to the top.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Hi Folks,
I just found out we are going with The Norton Solution for our company
anti-virus protection. This is fine for server and client, but I was also
told we would be using NAV's solution for Exchange. (Groupware I think).
Since I was not involved in this decision, but was the sole decision maker
when I chose Scanmail...im not too happy. But...I turn to y'all again, as I
did a few years ago for info on the best AV solution. This time I'm asking
what kind of problems will I see with this new NAV scan engine that was
chosen for MY Email servers? Is the NAV a solid, non-flaky product for
Exchange? I couldn't really find anything major from the net..but y'all
would 

RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

[Ron Grant]

Oops sorry! Great list Martin! :) I forgot about the first line of Don's
email that gave you credit for it. " The Martin Blackstone list of
attachments to block..." If it were a snake it would have bit me..ouch! 

-Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 12:47 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Sorry bud, but you're likely to make Martin mad since it's his list.  Though
everyone's should look about the same with varying differences here and
there.

D

"Saving the world from Brick Level Backups and PST's" - Ed Crowley

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


I am using that, and got file blocking really tricked out with Don Ely's
list of attachments to block! 
Thanks for everyone's input. I will try to talk then into keeping scanmail,
and using NAV for servers and clients as a compromise. If they don't go for
it, I will hope for a trouble free system like Tom and James have(but will
keep Scanmail handy just incase) 
Thanks!
Ron

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 12:28 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Using AVAPI and File Blocking? If not, you should be.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:10 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


I have version 3.52 with 5.5 sp4 on a Win2k Advanced server SP2. 

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 12:06 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Ron, what version of Scanmail are you running and what SP is your Exch
server on?

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


I feel the same way. I really researched for the best solution back then,
and scanmail it has proven to be great...no crashed servers, no bluescreens
etc. We did have a few outbreaks, but that was I think due to scanmail being
on a P-133 and not being able to keep up with the influx. IF I can build a
strong enough case against NAV for scanning...and just do the server/client
side solution only, that would be great. I almost want to install it, and
have things crash for them not asking me about this...but IM the one that
has to recover the thing! :( Ron

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:31 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Going from Scanmail to NAV is like going from Prime Rib to ground round
Your company will be very sorry it made this move. Since you already have
Scanmail, there is no reason to dump it. I would SERIOUSLY put my foot down
on this and fight it all the way to the top.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Hi Folks,
I just found out we are going with The Norton Solution for our company
anti-virus protection. This is fine for server and client, but I was also
told we would be using NAV's solution for Exchange. (Groupware I think). 
Since I was not involved in this decision, but was the sole decision maker
when I chose Scanmail...im not too happy. But...I turn to y'all again, as I
did a few years ago for info on the best AV solution. This time I'm asking
what kind of problems will I see with this new NAV scan engine that was
chosen for MY Email servers? Is the NAV a solid, non-flaky product for
Exchange? I couldn't really find anything major from the net..but y'all
would know best. 
Thanks!
Ron





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RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

[Doug Hampshire]

I think he meant the Secret Cabal handshake. Oh wait, there is no Secret
Cabal.

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:02 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


::High Five::

-Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:57 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


We ain't huggin!  ;o)  How about a secret handshake or something?  

D

"Incompetence: When you Earnestly Believe you can compensate for a lack of
skill by doubling your efforts, there's no end to what you can't do." - -
http://www.despair.com

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:55 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Id give you a big hug if it wouldn't be all awkward, then would have to
punch each other to maintain a manly appearance.

-Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Sorry bud, but you're likely to make Martin mad since it's his list.  Though
everyone's should look about the same with varying differences here and
there.

D

"Saving the world from Brick Level Backups and PST's" - Ed Crowley

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


I am using that, and got file blocking really tricked out with Don Ely's
list of attachments to block! 
Thanks for everyone's input. I will try to talk then into keeping scanmail,
and using NAV for servers and clients as a compromise. If they don't go for
it, I will hope for a trouble free system like Tom and James have(but will
keep Scanmail handy just incase) 
Thanks!
Ron

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 12:28 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Using AVAPI and File Blocking? If not, you should be.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:10 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


I have version 3.52 with 5.5 sp4 on a Win2k Advanced server SP2. 

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 12:06 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Ron, what version of Scanmail are you running and what SP is your Exch
server on?

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


I feel the same way. I really researched for the best solution back then,
and scanmail it has proven to be great...no crashed servers, no bluescreens
etc. We did have a few outbreaks, but that was I think due to scanmail being
on a P-133 and not being able to keep up with the influx. IF I can build a
strong enough case against NAV for scanning...and just do the server/client
side solution only, that would be great. I almost want to install it, and
have things crash for them not asking me about this...but IM the one that
has to recover the thing! :( Ron

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:31 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Going from Scanmail to NAV is like going from Prime Rib to ground round
Your company will be very sorry it made this move. Since you already have
Scanmail, there is no reason to dump it. I would SERIOUSLY put my foot down
on this and fight it all the way to the top.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Hi Folks,
I just found out we are going with The Norton Solution for our company
anti-virus protection. This is fine for server and client, but I was also
told we would be using NAV's solution for Exchange. (Groupware I think). 
Since I was not involved in this decision, but was the sole decision maker
when I chose Scanmail...im not too happy. But...I turn to y'all again, as I
did a few years ago for info on the best AV solution. This time I'm asking
what kind of problems will I see with this new NAV scan engine that was
chosen for MY Email servers? Is the NAV a solid, non-flaky product for
Exchange? I couldn't really find anything major from the net..but y'all
would know best. 
Thanks!
Ron





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RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

[Drewski]

There is no Secret Cabal handshake.

-- Drew

Visit http://www.drewncapris.net!  Go!  Go there now!
"Tyranny grows in strength by the oppression of those who dare speak out in
opposition of it."  Rick Watson

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Don Ely
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 12:57 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


We ain't huggin!  ;o)  How about a secret handshake or something?

D

"Incompetence: When you Earnestly Believe you can compensate for a lack of
skill by doubling your efforts, there's no end to what you can't do." - -
http://www.despair.com

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:55 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Id give you a big hug if it wouldn't be all awkward, then would have to
punch each other to maintain a manly appearance.

-Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Sorry bud, but you're likely to make Martin mad since it's his list.  Though
everyone's should look about the same with varying differences here and
there.

D

"Saving the world from Brick Level Backups and PST's" - Ed Crowley

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


I am using that, and got file blocking really tricked out with Don Ely's
list of attachments to block!
Thanks for everyone's input. I will try to talk then into keeping scanmail,
and using NAV for servers and clients as a compromise. If they don't go for
it, I will hope for a trouble free system like Tom and James have(but will
keep Scanmail handy just incase)
Thanks!
Ron

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 12:28 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Using AVAPI and File Blocking? If not, you should be.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:10 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


I have version 3.52 with 5.5 sp4 on a Win2k Advanced server SP2.

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 12:06 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Ron, what version of Scanmail are you running and what SP is your Exch
server on?

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


I feel the same way. I really researched for the best solution back then,
and scanmail it has proven to be great...no crashed servers, no bluescreens
etc. We did have a few outbreaks, but that was I think due to scanmail being
on a P-133 and not being able to keep up with the influx. IF I can build a
strong enough case against NAV for scanning...and just do the server/client
side solution only, that would be great. I almost want to install it, and
have things crash for them not asking me about this...but IM the one that
has to recover the thing! :( Ron

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:31 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Going from Scanmail to NAV is like going from Prime Rib to ground round
Your company will be very sorry it made this move. Since you already have
Scanmail, there is no reason to dump it. I would SERIOUSLY put my foot down
on this and fight it all the way to the top.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Hi Folks,
I just found out we are going with The Norton Solution for our company
anti-virus protection. This is fine for server and client, but I was also
told we would be using NAV's solution for Exchange. (Groupware I think).
Since I was not involved in this decision, but was the sole decision maker
when I chose Scanmail...im not too happy. But...I turn to y'all again, as I
did a few years ago for info on the best AV solution. This time I'm asking
what kind of problems will I see with this new NAV scan engine that was
chosen for MY Email servers? Is the NAV a solid, non-flaky product for
Exchange? I couldn't really find anything major from the net..but y'all
would know best.
Thanks!
Ron





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RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

[Martin Blackstone]

Everyone should be using something of that sort, we would have a much better
email world that way.

-Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Sorry bud, but you're likely to make Martin mad since it's his list.  Though
everyone's should look about the same with varying differences here and
there.

D

"Saving the world from Brick Level Backups and PST's" - Ed Crowley

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


I am using that, and got file blocking really tricked out with Don Ely's
list of attachments to block! 
Thanks for everyone's input. I will try to talk then into keeping scanmail,
and using NAV for servers and clients as a compromise. If they don't go for
it, I will hope for a trouble free system like Tom and James have(but will
keep Scanmail handy just incase) 
Thanks!
Ron

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 12:28 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Using AVAPI and File Blocking? If not, you should be.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:10 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


I have version 3.52 with 5.5 sp4 on a Win2k Advanced server SP2. 

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 12:06 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Ron, what version of Scanmail are you running and what SP is your Exch
server on?

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


I feel the same way. I really researched for the best solution back then,
and scanmail it has proven to be great...no crashed servers, no bluescreens
etc. We did have a few outbreaks, but that was I think due to scanmail being
on a P-133 and not being able to keep up with the influx. IF I can build a
strong enough case against NAV for scanning...and just do the server/client
side solution only, that would be great. I almost want to install it, and
have things crash for them not asking me about this...but IM the one that
has to recover the thing! :( Ron

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:31 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Going from Scanmail to NAV is like going from Prime Rib to ground round
Your company will be very sorry it made this move. Since you already have
Scanmail, there is no reason to dump it. I would SERIOUSLY put my foot down
on this and fight it all the way to the top.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Hi Folks,
I just found out we are going with The Norton Solution for our company
anti-virus protection. This is fine for server and client, but I was also
told we would be using NAV's solution for Exchange. (Groupware I think). 
Since I was not involved in this decision, but was the sole decision maker
when I chose Scanmail...im not too happy. But...I turn to y'all again, as I
did a few years ago for info on the best AV solution. This time I'm asking
what kind of problems will I see with this new NAV scan engine that was
chosen for MY Email servers? Is the NAV a solid, non-flaky product for
Exchange? I couldn't really find anything major from the net..but y'all
would know best. 
Thanks!
Ron





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RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

[Ken . Powell]

That's four more than I usually give. :)

Ken Powell
Systems Administrator
Clark County Office of Budget and Information Services (OBIS)
Vancouver, Washington
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Voice: (360) 397-6121 x4658
Fax: (360) 759-6001


-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:06 AM
To: Powell, Ken
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

::High Five::

-Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:57 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


We ain't huggin!  ;o)  How about a secret handshake or something?  

D

"Incompetence: When you Earnestly Believe you can compensate for a lack of
skill by doubling your efforts, there's no end to what you can't do." - -
http://www.despair.com

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:55 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Id give you a big hug if it wouldn't be all awkward, then would have to
punch each other to maintain a manly appearance.

-Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Sorry bud, but you're likely to make Martin mad since it's his list.  Though
everyone's should look about the same with varying differences here and
there.

D

"Saving the world from Brick Level Backups and PST's" - Ed Crowley

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


I am using that, and got file blocking really tricked out with Don Ely's
list of attachments to block! 
Thanks for everyone's input. I will try to talk then into keeping scanmail,
and using NAV for servers and clients as a compromise. If they don't go for
it, I will hope for a trouble free system like Tom and James have(but will
keep Scanmail handy just incase) 
Thanks!
Ron

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 12:28 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Using AVAPI and File Blocking? If not, you should be.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:10 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


I have version 3.52 with 5.5 sp4 on a Win2k Advanced server SP2. 

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 12:06 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Ron, what version of Scanmail are you running and what SP is your Exch
server on?

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


I feel the same way. I really researched for the best solution back then,
and scanmail it has proven to be great...no crashed servers, no bluescreens
etc. We did have a few outbreaks, but that was I think due to scanmail being
on a P-133 and not being able to keep up with the influx. IF I can build a
strong enough case against NAV for scanning...and just do the server/client
side solution only, that would be great. I almost want to install it, and
have things crash for them not asking me about this...but IM the one that
has to recover the thing! :( Ron

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:31 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Going from Scanmail to NAV is like going from Prime Rib to ground round
Your company will be very sorry it made this move. Since you already have
Scanmail, there is no reason to dump it. I would SERIOUSLY put my foot down
on this and fight it all the way to the top.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Hi Folks,
I just found out we are going with The Norton Solution for our company
anti-virus protection. This is fine for server and client, but I was also
told we would be using NAV's solution for Exchange. (Groupware I think). 
Since I was not involved in this decision, but was the sole decision maker
when I chose Scanmail...im not too happy. But...I turn to y'all again, as I
did a few years ago for info on the best AV solution. This time I'm asking
what kind of problems will I see with this new NAV scan engine that was
chosen for MY Email servers? Is the NAV a solid, non-flaky product for
Exchange? I couldn't really find anything major from the net..but y'all
would know best. 
Thanks!
Ron





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RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

[Don Ely]

::High Five Back at ya::

D

"Burnout: Attitudes are contagious, mine might kill you." - -
http://www.despair.com

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:02 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


::High Five::

-Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:57 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


We ain't huggin!  ;o)  How about a secret handshake or something?  

D

"Incompetence: When you Earnestly Believe you can compensate for a lack of
skill by doubling your efforts, there's no end to what you can't do." - -
http://www.despair.com

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:55 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Id give you a big hug if it wouldn't be all awkward, then would have to
punch each other to maintain a manly appearance.

-Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Sorry bud, but you're likely to make Martin mad since it's his list.  Though
everyone's should look about the same with varying differences here and
there.

D

"Saving the world from Brick Level Backups and PST's" - Ed Crowley

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


I am using that, and got file blocking really tricked out with Don Ely's
list of attachments to block! 
Thanks for everyone's input. I will try to talk then into keeping scanmail,
and using NAV for servers and clients as a compromise. If they don't go for
it, I will hope for a trouble free system like Tom and James have(but will
keep Scanmail handy just incase) 
Thanks!
Ron

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 12:28 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Using AVAPI and File Blocking? If not, you should be.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:10 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


I have version 3.52 with 5.5 sp4 on a Win2k Advanced server SP2. 

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 12:06 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Ron, what version of Scanmail are you running and what SP is your Exch
server on?

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


I feel the same way. I really researched for the best solution back then,
and scanmail it has proven to be great...no crashed servers, no bluescreens
etc. We did have a few outbreaks, but that was I think due to scanmail being
on a P-133 and not being able to keep up with the influx. IF I can build a
strong enough case against NAV for scanning...and just do the server/client
side solution only, that would be great. I almost want to install it, and
have things crash for them not asking me about this...but IM the one that
has to recover the thing! :( Ron

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:31 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Going from Scanmail to NAV is like going from Prime Rib to ground round
Your company will be very sorry it made this move. Since you already have
Scanmail, there is no reason to dump it. I would SERIOUSLY put my foot down
on this and fight it all the way to the top.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Hi Folks,
I just found out we are going with The Norton Solution for our company
anti-virus protection. This is fine for server and client, but I was also
told we would be using NAV's solution for Exchange. (Groupware I think). 
Since I was not involved in this decision, but was the sole decision maker
when I chose Scanmail...im not too happy. But...I turn to y'all again, as I
did a few years ago for info on the best AV solution. This time I'm asking
what kind of problems will I see with this new NAV scan engine that was
chosen for MY Email servers? Is the NAV a solid, non-flaky product for
Exchange? I couldn't really find anything major from the net..but y'all
would know best. 
Thanks!
Ron





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RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

[Martin Blackstone]

::High Five::

-Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:57 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


We ain't huggin!  ;o)  How about a secret handshake or something?  

D

"Incompetence: When you Earnestly Believe you can compensate for a lack of
skill by doubling your efforts, there's no end to what you can't do." - -
http://www.despair.com

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:55 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Id give you a big hug if it wouldn't be all awkward, then would have to
punch each other to maintain a manly appearance.

-Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Sorry bud, but you're likely to make Martin mad since it's his list.  Though
everyone's should look about the same with varying differences here and
there.

D

"Saving the world from Brick Level Backups and PST's" - Ed Crowley

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


I am using that, and got file blocking really tricked out with Don Ely's
list of attachments to block! 
Thanks for everyone's input. I will try to talk then into keeping scanmail,
and using NAV for servers and clients as a compromise. If they don't go for
it, I will hope for a trouble free system like Tom and James have(but will
keep Scanmail handy just incase) 
Thanks!
Ron

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 12:28 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Using AVAPI and File Blocking? If not, you should be.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:10 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


I have version 3.52 with 5.5 sp4 on a Win2k Advanced server SP2. 

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 12:06 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Ron, what version of Scanmail are you running and what SP is your Exch
server on?

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


I feel the same way. I really researched for the best solution back then,
and scanmail it has proven to be great...no crashed servers, no bluescreens
etc. We did have a few outbreaks, but that was I think due to scanmail being
on a P-133 and not being able to keep up with the influx. IF I can build a
strong enough case against NAV for scanning...and just do the server/client
side solution only, that would be great. I almost want to install it, and
have things crash for them not asking me about this...but IM the one that
has to recover the thing! :( Ron

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:31 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Going from Scanmail to NAV is like going from Prime Rib to ground round
Your company will be very sorry it made this move. Since you already have
Scanmail, there is no reason to dump it. I would SERIOUSLY put my foot down
on this and fight it all the way to the top.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Hi Folks,
I just found out we are going with The Norton Solution for our company
anti-virus protection. This is fine for server and client, but I was also
told we would be using NAV's solution for Exchange. (Groupware I think). 
Since I was not involved in this decision, but was the sole decision maker
when I chose Scanmail...im not too happy. But...I turn to y'all again, as I
did a few years ago for info on the best AV solution. This time I'm asking
what kind of problems will I see with this new NAV scan engine that was
chosen for MY Email servers? Is the NAV a solid, non-flaky product for
Exchange? I couldn't really find anything major from the net..but y'all
would know best. 
Thanks!
Ron





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RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

[Martin Blackstone]

::Sputter::

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


I am using that, and got file blocking really tricked out with Don Ely's
list of attachments to block! 
Thanks for everyone's input. I will try to talk then into keeping scanmail,
and using NAV for servers and clients as a compromise. If they don't go for
it, I will hope for a trouble free system like Tom and James have(but will
keep Scanmail handy just incase) 
Thanks!
Ron

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 12:28 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Using AVAPI and File Blocking? If not, you should be.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:10 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


I have version 3.52 with 5.5 sp4 on a Win2k Advanced server SP2. 

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 12:06 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Ron, what version of Scanmail are you running and what SP is your Exch
server on?

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


I feel the same way. I really researched for the best solution back then,
and scanmail it has proven to be great...no crashed servers, no bluescreens
etc. We did have a few outbreaks, but that was I think due to scanmail being
on a P-133 and not being able to keep up with the influx. IF I can build a
strong enough case against NAV for scanning...and just do the server/client
side solution only, that would be great. I almost want to install it, and
have things crash for them not asking me about this...but IM the one that
has to recover the thing! :( Ron

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:31 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Going from Scanmail to NAV is like going from Prime Rib to ground round
Your company will be very sorry it made this move. Since you already have
Scanmail, there is no reason to dump it. I would SERIOUSLY put my foot down
on this and fight it all the way to the top.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Hi Folks,
I just found out we are going with The Norton Solution for our company
anti-virus protection. This is fine for server and client, but I was also
told we would be using NAV's solution for Exchange. (Groupware I think). 
Since I was not involved in this decision, but was the sole decision maker
when I chose Scanmail...im not too happy. But...I turn to y'all again, as I
did a few years ago for info on the best AV solution. This time I'm asking
what kind of problems will I see with this new NAV scan engine that was
chosen for MY Email servers? Is the NAV a solid, non-flaky product for
Exchange? I couldn't really find anything major from the net..but y'all
would know best. 
Thanks!
Ron





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RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

[Don Ely]

We ain't huggin!  ;o)  How about a secret handshake or something?  

D

"Incompetence: When you Earnestly Believe you can compensate for a lack of
skill by doubling your efforts, there's no end to what you can't do." - -
http://www.despair.com

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:55 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Id give you a big hug if it wouldn't be all awkward, then would have to
punch each other to maintain a manly appearance.

-Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Sorry bud, but you're likely to make Martin mad since it's his list.  Though
everyone's should look about the same with varying differences here and
there.

D

"Saving the world from Brick Level Backups and PST's" - Ed Crowley

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


I am using that, and got file blocking really tricked out with Don Ely's
list of attachments to block! 
Thanks for everyone's input. I will try to talk then into keeping scanmail,
and using NAV for servers and clients as a compromise. If they don't go for
it, I will hope for a trouble free system like Tom and James have(but will
keep Scanmail handy just incase) 
Thanks!
Ron

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 12:28 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Using AVAPI and File Blocking? If not, you should be.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:10 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


I have version 3.52 with 5.5 sp4 on a Win2k Advanced server SP2. 

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 12:06 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Ron, what version of Scanmail are you running and what SP is your Exch
server on?

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


I feel the same way. I really researched for the best solution back then,
and scanmail it has proven to be great...no crashed servers, no bluescreens
etc. We did have a few outbreaks, but that was I think due to scanmail being
on a P-133 and not being able to keep up with the influx. IF I can build a
strong enough case against NAV for scanning...and just do the server/client
side solution only, that would be great. I almost want to install it, and
have things crash for them not asking me about this...but IM the one that
has to recover the thing! :( Ron

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:31 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Going from Scanmail to NAV is like going from Prime Rib to ground round
Your company will be very sorry it made this move. Since you already have
Scanmail, there is no reason to dump it. I would SERIOUSLY put my foot down
on this and fight it all the way to the top.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Hi Folks,
I just found out we are going with The Norton Solution for our company
anti-virus protection. This is fine for server and client, but I was also
told we would be using NAV's solution for Exchange. (Groupware I think). 
Since I was not involved in this decision, but was the sole decision maker
when I chose Scanmail...im not too happy. But...I turn to y'all again, as I
did a few years ago for info on the best AV solution. This time I'm asking
what kind of problems will I see with this new NAV scan engine that was
chosen for MY Email servers? Is the NAV a solid, non-flaky product for
Exchange? I couldn't really find anything major from the net..but y'all
would know best. 
Thanks!
Ron





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RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

[Martin Blackstone]

Id give you a big hug if it wouldn't be all awkward, then would have to
punch each other to maintain a manly appearance.

-Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Sorry bud, but you're likely to make Martin mad since it's his list.  Though
everyone's should look about the same with varying differences here and
there.

D

"Saving the world from Brick Level Backups and PST's" - Ed Crowley

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


I am using that, and got file blocking really tricked out with Don Ely's
list of attachments to block! 
Thanks for everyone's input. I will try to talk then into keeping scanmail,
and using NAV for servers and clients as a compromise. If they don't go for
it, I will hope for a trouble free system like Tom and James have(but will
keep Scanmail handy just incase) 
Thanks!
Ron

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 12:28 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Using AVAPI and File Blocking? If not, you should be.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:10 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


I have version 3.52 with 5.5 sp4 on a Win2k Advanced server SP2. 

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 12:06 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Ron, what version of Scanmail are you running and what SP is your Exch
server on?

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


I feel the same way. I really researched for the best solution back then,
and scanmail it has proven to be great...no crashed servers, no bluescreens
etc. We did have a few outbreaks, but that was I think due to scanmail being
on a P-133 and not being able to keep up with the influx. IF I can build a
strong enough case against NAV for scanning...and just do the server/client
side solution only, that would be great. I almost want to install it, and
have things crash for them not asking me about this...but IM the one that
has to recover the thing! :( Ron

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:31 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Going from Scanmail to NAV is like going from Prime Rib to ground round
Your company will be very sorry it made this move. Since you already have
Scanmail, there is no reason to dump it. I would SERIOUSLY put my foot down
on this and fight it all the way to the top.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Hi Folks,
I just found out we are going with The Norton Solution for our company
anti-virus protection. This is fine for server and client, but I was also
told we would be using NAV's solution for Exchange. (Groupware I think). 
Since I was not involved in this decision, but was the sole decision maker
when I chose Scanmail...im not too happy. But...I turn to y'all again, as I
did a few years ago for info on the best AV solution. This time I'm asking
what kind of problems will I see with this new NAV scan engine that was
chosen for MY Email servers? Is the NAV a solid, non-flaky product for
Exchange? I couldn't really find anything major from the net..but y'all
would know best. 
Thanks!
Ron





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RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

[Ed Premus]

I agree that Antigen is better than NAV for Exchange, we have not had any
problems with it for over a year. This is also a test because as of yet I
have been unable to post a question

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RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

[Don Ely]

Sorry bud, but you're likely to make Martin mad since it's his list.  Though
everyone's should look about the same with varying differences here and
there.

D

"Saving the world from Brick Level Backups and PST's" - Ed Crowley

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


I am using that, and got file blocking really tricked out with Don Ely's
list of attachments to block! 
Thanks for everyone's input. I will try to talk then into keeping scanmail,
and using NAV for servers and clients as a compromise. If they don't go for
it, I will hope for a trouble free system like Tom and James have(but will
keep Scanmail handy just incase) 
Thanks!
Ron

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 12:28 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Using AVAPI and File Blocking? If not, you should be.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:10 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


I have version 3.52 with 5.5 sp4 on a Win2k Advanced server SP2. 

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 12:06 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Ron, what version of Scanmail are you running and what SP is your Exch
server on?

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


I feel the same way. I really researched for the best solution back then,
and scanmail it has proven to be great...no crashed servers, no bluescreens
etc. We did have a few outbreaks, but that was I think due to scanmail being
on a P-133 and not being able to keep up with the influx. IF I can build a
strong enough case against NAV for scanning...and just do the server/client
side solution only, that would be great. I almost want to install it, and
have things crash for them not asking me about this...but IM the one that
has to recover the thing! :( Ron

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:31 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Going from Scanmail to NAV is like going from Prime Rib to ground round
Your company will be very sorry it made this move. Since you already have
Scanmail, there is no reason to dump it. I would SERIOUSLY put my foot down
on this and fight it all the way to the top.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Hi Folks,
I just found out we are going with The Norton Solution for our company
anti-virus protection. This is fine for server and client, but I was also
told we would be using NAV's solution for Exchange. (Groupware I think). 
Since I was not involved in this decision, but was the sole decision maker
when I chose Scanmail...im not too happy. But...I turn to y'all again, as I
did a few years ago for info on the best AV solution. This time I'm asking
what kind of problems will I see with this new NAV scan engine that was
chosen for MY Email servers? Is the NAV a solid, non-flaky product for
Exchange? I couldn't really find anything major from the net..but y'all
would know best. 
Thanks!
Ron





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RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

[Ron Grant]

I am using that, and got file blocking really tricked out with Don Ely's
list of attachments to block! 
Thanks for everyone's input. I will try to talk then into keeping scanmail,
and using NAV for servers and clients as a compromise. If they don't go for
it, I will hope for a trouble free system like Tom and James have(but will
keep Scanmail handy just incase) 
Thanks!
Ron

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 12:28 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Using AVAPI and File Blocking? If not, you should be.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:10 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


I have version 3.52 with 5.5 sp4 on a Win2k Advanced server SP2. 

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 12:06 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Ron, what version of Scanmail are you running and what SP is your Exch
server on?

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


I feel the same way. I really researched for the best solution back then,
and scanmail it has proven to be great...no crashed servers, no bluescreens
etc. We did have a few outbreaks, but that was I think due to scanmail being
on a P-133 and not being able to keep up with the influx. IF I can build a
strong enough case against NAV for scanning...and just do the server/client
side solution only, that would be great. I almost want to install it, and
have things crash for them not asking me about this...but IM the one that
has to recover the thing! :( Ron

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:31 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Going from Scanmail to NAV is like going from Prime Rib to ground round
Your company will be very sorry it made this move. Since you already have
Scanmail, there is no reason to dump it. I would SERIOUSLY put my foot down
on this and fight it all the way to the top.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Hi Folks,
I just found out we are going with The Norton Solution for our company
anti-virus protection. This is fine for server and client, but I was also
told we would be using NAV's solution for Exchange. (Groupware I think). 
Since I was not involved in this decision, but was the sole decision maker
when I chose Scanmail...im not too happy. But...I turn to y'all again, as I
did a few years ago for info on the best AV solution. This time I'm asking
what kind of problems will I see with this new NAV scan engine that was
chosen for MY Email servers? Is the NAV a solid, non-flaky product for
Exchange? I couldn't really find anything major from the net..but y'all
would know best. 
Thanks!
Ron





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RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

[Martin Blackstone]

Then the people across the street don't know WTF they are doing. That is the
only answer.

-Original Message-
From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:14 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Tom...I agree with you.  Same setup, no problems.  In fact, we usually know
about and have .dat file updates in place, before the people across the
street even find out about possible problems...they're running TrendMicro
Scanmail.

-Original Message-
From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:58 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


So your solution with "a few outbreaks" is better than NAV?  We use NAV and
have had none.  Not even close.  I just watch the stuff get ditched
into the quarantine.Sounds like I'm eating well-prepared ground beef
and you're eating wormy prime rib.

I've never had a crashed server, never had a blue screen, etc.  So far, you
make a good case for moving off of your preferred solution.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:43 AM
Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
Conversation: NAV for Exchange 5.5
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


I feel the same way. I really researched for the best solution back then,
and scanmail it has proven to be great...no crashed servers, no bluescreens
etc. We did have a few outbreaks, but that was I think due to scanmail being
on a P-133 and not being able to keep up with the influx. IF I can build a
strong enough case against NAV for scanning...and just do the server/client
side solution only, that would be great. I almost want to install it, and
have things crash for them not asking me about this...but IM the one that
has to recover the thing! :( Ron

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:31 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Going from Scanmail to NAV is like going from Prime Rib to ground round
Your company will be very sorry it made this move. Since you already have
Scanmail, there is no reason to dump it. I would SERIOUSLY put my foot down
on this and fight it all the way to the top.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Hi Folks,
I just found out we are going with The Norton Solution for our company
anti-virus protection. This is fine for server and client, but I was also
told we would be using NAV's solution for Exchange. (Groupware I think). 
Since I was not involved in this decision, but was the sole decision maker
when I chose Scanmail...im not too happy. But...I turn to y'all again, as I
did a few years ago for info on the best AV solution. This time I'm asking
what kind of problems will I see with this new NAV scan engine that was
chosen for MY Email servers? Is the NAV a solid, non-flaky product for
Exchange? I couldn't really find anything major from the net..but y'all
would know best. 
Thanks!
Ron





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RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

[Martin Blackstone]

Using AVAPI and File Blocking? If not, you should be.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:10 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


I have version 3.52 with 5.5 sp4 on a Win2k Advanced server SP2. 

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 12:06 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Ron, what version of Scanmail are you running and what SP is your Exch
server on?

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


I feel the same way. I really researched for the best solution back then,
and scanmail it has proven to be great...no crashed servers, no bluescreens
etc. We did have a few outbreaks, but that was I think due to scanmail being
on a P-133 and not being able to keep up with the influx. IF I can build a
strong enough case against NAV for scanning...and just do the server/client
side solution only, that would be great. I almost want to install it, and
have things crash for them not asking me about this...but IM the one that
has to recover the thing! :( Ron

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:31 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Going from Scanmail to NAV is like going from Prime Rib to ground round
Your company will be very sorry it made this move. Since you already have
Scanmail, there is no reason to dump it. I would SERIOUSLY put my foot down
on this and fight it all the way to the top.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Hi Folks,
I just found out we are going with The Norton Solution for our company
anti-virus protection. This is fine for server and client, but I was also
told we would be using NAV's solution for Exchange. (Groupware I think). 
Since I was not involved in this decision, but was the sole decision maker
when I chose Scanmail...im not too happy. But...I turn to y'all again, as I
did a few years ago for info on the best AV solution. This time I'm asking
what kind of problems will I see with this new NAV scan engine that was
chosen for MY Email servers? Is the NAV a solid, non-flaky product for
Exchange? I couldn't really find anything major from the net..but y'all
would know best. 
Thanks!
Ron





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RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

[Don Ely]

A  That, I can see...  :o)

D

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http://www.despair.com

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Haha! no, everything is on a rack server now..mo gigage processor, and
rammage! This server made all the difference in the world with my
environment. I was giving scanmail a bike to run a car race back then. :)


-Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 12:16 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

You're running W2K Adv. Server on a P-133???  I seriously doubt that!

D

"Mistakes: It could be that the purpose of your life is only to serve as a
warning to others."

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From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:10 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


I have version 3.52 with 5.5 sp4 on a Win2k Advanced server SP2. 

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 12:06 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Ron, what version of Scanmail are you running and what SP is your Exch
server on?

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


I feel the same way. I really researched for the best solution back then,
and scanmail it has proven to be great...no crashed servers, no bluescreens
etc. We did have a few outbreaks, but that was I think due to scanmail being
on a P-133 and not being able to keep up with the influx. IF I can build a
strong enough case against NAV for scanning...and just do the server/client
side solution only, that would be great. I almost want to install it, and
have things crash for them not asking me about this...but IM the one that
has to recover the thing! :( Ron

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:31 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Going from Scanmail to NAV is like going from Prime Rib to ground round
Your company will be very sorry it made this move. Since you already have
Scanmail, there is no reason to dump it. I would SERIOUSLY put my foot down
on this and fight it all the way to the top.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Hi Folks,
I just found out we are going with The Norton Solution for our company
anti-virus protection. This is fine for server and client, but I was also
told we would be using NAV's solution for Exchange. (Groupware I think). 
Since I was not involved in this decision, but was the sole decision maker
when I chose Scanmail...im not too happy. But...I turn to y'all again, as I
did a few years ago for info on the best AV solution. This time I'm asking
what kind of problems will I see with this new NAV scan engine that was
chosen for MY Email servers? Is the NAV a solid, non-flaky product for
Exchange? I couldn't really find anything major from the net..but y'all
would know best. 
Thanks!
Ron





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RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

[Ron Grant]

Haha! no, everything is on a rack server now..mo gigage processor, and
rammage! This server made all the difference in the world with my
environment. I was giving scanmail a bike to run a car race back then. :)


-Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 12:16 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

You're running W2K Adv. Server on a P-133???  I seriously doubt that!

D

"Mistakes: It could be that the purpose of your life is only to serve as a
warning to others."

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:10 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


I have version 3.52 with 5.5 sp4 on a Win2k Advanced server SP2. 

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 12:06 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Ron, what version of Scanmail are you running and what SP is your Exch
server on?

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


I feel the same way. I really researched for the best solution back then,
and scanmail it has proven to be great...no crashed servers, no bluescreens
etc. We did have a few outbreaks, but that was I think due to scanmail being
on a P-133 and not being able to keep up with the influx. IF I can build a
strong enough case against NAV for scanning...and just do the server/client
side solution only, that would be great. I almost want to install it, and
have things crash for them not asking me about this...but IM the one that
has to recover the thing! :( Ron

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:31 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Going from Scanmail to NAV is like going from Prime Rib to ground round
Your company will be very sorry it made this move. Since you already have
Scanmail, there is no reason to dump it. I would SERIOUSLY put my foot down
on this and fight it all the way to the top.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Hi Folks,
I just found out we are going with The Norton Solution for our company
anti-virus protection. This is fine for server and client, but I was also
told we would be using NAV's solution for Exchange. (Groupware I think). 
Since I was not involved in this decision, but was the sole decision maker
when I chose Scanmail...im not too happy. But...I turn to y'all again, as I
did a few years ago for info on the best AV solution. This time I'm asking
what kind of problems will I see with this new NAV scan engine that was
chosen for MY Email servers? Is the NAV a solid, non-flaky product for
Exchange? I couldn't really find anything major from the net..but y'all
would know best. 
Thanks!
Ron





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RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

[Don Ely]

You're running W2K Adv. Server on a P-133???  I seriously doubt that!

D

"Mistakes: It could be that the purpose of your life is only to serve as a
warning to others."

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:10 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


I have version 3.52 with 5.5 sp4 on a Win2k Advanced server SP2. 

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 12:06 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Ron, what version of Scanmail are you running and what SP is your Exch
server on?

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


I feel the same way. I really researched for the best solution back then,
and scanmail it has proven to be great...no crashed servers, no bluescreens
etc. We did have a few outbreaks, but that was I think due to scanmail being
on a P-133 and not being able to keep up with the influx. IF I can build a
strong enough case against NAV for scanning...and just do the server/client
side solution only, that would be great. I almost want to install it, and
have things crash for them not asking me about this...but IM the one that
has to recover the thing! :( Ron

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:31 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Going from Scanmail to NAV is like going from Prime Rib to ground round
Your company will be very sorry it made this move. Since you already have
Scanmail, there is no reason to dump it. I would SERIOUSLY put my foot down
on this and fight it all the way to the top.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Hi Folks,
I just found out we are going with The Norton Solution for our company
anti-virus protection. This is fine for server and client, but I was also
told we would be using NAV's solution for Exchange. (Groupware I think). 
Since I was not involved in this decision, but was the sole decision maker
when I chose Scanmail...im not too happy. But...I turn to y'all again, as I
did a few years ago for info on the best AV solution. This time I'm asking
what kind of problems will I see with this new NAV scan engine that was
chosen for MY Email servers? Is the NAV a solid, non-flaky product for
Exchange? I couldn't really find anything major from the net..but y'all
would know best. 
Thanks!
Ron





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RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

[Ron Grant]

I have version 3.52 with 5.5 sp4 on a Win2k Advanced server SP2. 

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 12:06 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Ron, what version of Scanmail are you running and what SP is your Exch
server on?

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


I feel the same way. I really researched for the best solution back then,
and scanmail it has proven to be great...no crashed servers, no bluescreens
etc. We did have a few outbreaks, but that was I think due to scanmail being
on a P-133 and not being able to keep up with the influx. IF I can build a
strong enough case against NAV for scanning...and just do the server/client
side solution only, that would be great. I almost want to install it, and
have things crash for them not asking me about this...but IM the one that
has to recover the thing! :( Ron

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:31 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Going from Scanmail to NAV is like going from Prime Rib to ground round
Your company will be very sorry it made this move. Since you already have
Scanmail, there is no reason to dump it. I would SERIOUSLY put my foot down
on this and fight it all the way to the top.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Hi Folks,
I just found out we are going with The Norton Solution for our company
anti-virus protection. This is fine for server and client, but I was also
told we would be using NAV's solution for Exchange. (Groupware I think). 
Since I was not involved in this decision, but was the sole decision maker
when I chose Scanmail...im not too happy. But...I turn to y'all again, as I
did a few years ago for info on the best AV solution. This time I'm asking
what kind of problems will I see with this new NAV scan engine that was
chosen for MY Email servers? Is the NAV a solid, non-flaky product for
Exchange? I couldn't really find anything major from the net..but y'all
would know best. 
Thanks!
Ron





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RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

[Ron Grant]

It was twice. And I know...twice it too many as well. Both times, there was
user error on my and the helpdesk end...so I can't blame it on scanmail. If
I'm forced to go with NAV, then I will just have to grin and bear it. Who
knows it might turn out to be a chicken fried steak with mashed taters and
green beans for us. Time will tell.  

-Original Message-
From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:58 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

So your solution with "a few outbreaks" is better than NAV?  We use NAV
and have had none.  Not even close.  I just watch the stuff get ditched
into the quarantine.Sounds like I'm eating well-prepared ground beef
and you're eating wormy prime rib.

I've never had a crashed server, never had a blue screen, etc.  So far,
you make a good case for moving off of your preferred solution.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:43 AM
Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
Conversation: NAV for Exchange 5.5
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


I feel the same way. I really researched for the best solution back
then, and scanmail it has proven to be great...no crashed servers, no
bluescreens etc. We did have a few outbreaks, but that was I think due
to scanmail being on a P-133 and not being able to keep up with the
influx. IF I can build a strong enough case against NAV for
scanning...and just do the server/client side solution only, that would
be great. I almost want to install it, and have things crash for them
not asking me about this...but IM the one that has to recover the thing!
:( Ron

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:31 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Going from Scanmail to NAV is like going from Prime Rib to ground
round Your company will be very sorry it made this move. Since you
already have Scanmail, there is no reason to dump it. I would SERIOUSLY
put my foot down on this and fight it all the way to the top.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Hi Folks,
I just found out we are going with The Norton Solution for our company
anti-virus protection. This is fine for server and client, but I was
also told we would be using NAV's solution for Exchange. (Groupware I
think). 
Since I was not involved in this decision, but was the sole decision
maker when I chose Scanmail...im not too happy. But...I turn to y'all
again, as I did a few years ago for info on the best AV solution. This
time I'm asking what kind of problems will I see with this new NAV scan
engine that was chosen for MY Email servers? Is the NAV a solid,
non-flaky product for Exchange? I couldn't really find anything major
from the net..but y'all would know best. 
Thanks!
Ron





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RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

[Blunt, James H (Jim)]

Tom...I agree with you.  Same setup, no problems.  In fact, we usually know
about and have .dat file updates in place, before the people across the
street even find out about possible problems...they're running TrendMicro
Scanmail.

-Original Message-
From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:58 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


So your solution with "a few outbreaks" is better than NAV?  We use NAV and
have had none.  Not even close.  I just watch the stuff get ditched
into the quarantine.Sounds like I'm eating well-prepared ground beef
and you're eating wormy prime rib.

I've never had a crashed server, never had a blue screen, etc.  So far, you
make a good case for moving off of your preferred solution.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:43 AM
Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
Conversation: NAV for Exchange 5.5
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


I feel the same way. I really researched for the best solution back then,
and scanmail it has proven to be great...no crashed servers, no bluescreens
etc. We did have a few outbreaks, but that was I think due to scanmail being
on a P-133 and not being able to keep up with the influx. IF I can build a
strong enough case against NAV for scanning...and just do the server/client
side solution only, that would be great. I almost want to install it, and
have things crash for them not asking me about this...but IM the one that
has to recover the thing! :( Ron

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:31 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Going from Scanmail to NAV is like going from Prime Rib to ground round
Your company will be very sorry it made this move. Since you already have
Scanmail, there is no reason to dump it. I would SERIOUSLY put my foot down
on this and fight it all the way to the top.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Hi Folks,
I just found out we are going with The Norton Solution for our company
anti-virus protection. This is fine for server and client, but I was also
told we would be using NAV's solution for Exchange. (Groupware I think). 
Since I was not involved in this decision, but was the sole decision maker
when I chose Scanmail...im not too happy. But...I turn to y'all again, as I
did a few years ago for info on the best AV solution. This time I'm asking
what kind of problems will I see with this new NAV scan engine that was
chosen for MY Email servers? Is the NAV a solid, non-flaky product for
Exchange? I couldn't really find anything major from the net..but y'all
would know best. 
Thanks!
Ron





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RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

[Martin Blackstone]

Ron, what version of Scanmail are you running and what SP is your Exch
server on?

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


I feel the same way. I really researched for the best solution back then,
and scanmail it has proven to be great...no crashed servers, no bluescreens
etc. We did have a few outbreaks, but that was I think due to scanmail being
on a P-133 and not being able to keep up with the influx. IF I can build a
strong enough case against NAV for scanning...and just do the server/client
side solution only, that would be great. I almost want to install it, and
have things crash for them not asking me about this...but IM the one that
has to recover the thing! :( Ron

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:31 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Going from Scanmail to NAV is like going from Prime Rib to ground round
Your company will be very sorry it made this move. Since you already have
Scanmail, there is no reason to dump it. I would SERIOUSLY put my foot down
on this and fight it all the way to the top.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Hi Folks,
I just found out we are going with The Norton Solution for our company
anti-virus protection. This is fine for server and client, but I was also
told we would be using NAV's solution for Exchange. (Groupware I think). 
Since I was not involved in this decision, but was the sole decision maker
when I chose Scanmail...im not too happy. But...I turn to y'all again, as I
did a few years ago for info on the best AV solution. This time I'm asking
what kind of problems will I see with this new NAV scan engine that was
chosen for MY Email servers? Is the NAV a solid, non-flaky product for
Exchange? I couldn't really find anything major from the net..but y'all
would know best. 
Thanks!
Ron





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RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

[Tom Meunier]

So your solution with "a few outbreaks" is better than NAV?  We use NAV
and have had none.  Not even close.  I just watch the stuff get ditched
into the quarantine.Sounds like I'm eating well-prepared ground beef
and you're eating wormy prime rib.

I've never had a crashed server, never had a blue screen, etc.  So far,
you make a good case for moving off of your preferred solution.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:43 AM
Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
Conversation: NAV for Exchange 5.5
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


I feel the same way. I really researched for the best solution back
then, and scanmail it has proven to be great...no crashed servers, no
bluescreens etc. We did have a few outbreaks, but that was I think due
to scanmail being on a P-133 and not being able to keep up with the
influx. IF I can build a strong enough case against NAV for
scanning...and just do the server/client side solution only, that would
be great. I almost want to install it, and have things crash for them
not asking me about this...but IM the one that has to recover the thing!
:( Ron

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:31 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Going from Scanmail to NAV is like going from Prime Rib to ground
round Your company will be very sorry it made this move. Since you
already have Scanmail, there is no reason to dump it. I would SERIOUSLY
put my foot down on this and fight it all the way to the top.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Hi Folks,
I just found out we are going with The Norton Solution for our company
anti-virus protection. This is fine for server and client, but I was
also told we would be using NAV's solution for Exchange. (Groupware I
think). 
Since I was not involved in this decision, but was the sole decision
maker when I chose Scanmail...im not too happy. But...I turn to y'all
again, as I did a few years ago for info on the best AV solution. This
time I'm asking what kind of problems will I see with this new NAV scan
engine that was chosen for MY Email servers? Is the NAV a solid,
non-flaky product for Exchange? I couldn't really find anything major
from the net..but y'all would know best. 
Thanks!
Ron





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RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

[Couch, Nate]

Agreed.  Why have hamburger when you can have a nice thick slab of roast
beast.  Scanmail is far more Admin friendly as comared to NAV for MSX.

> --
> From: John Matteson
> Reply To: Exchange Discussions
> Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:40
> To:   Exchange Discussions
> Subject:  RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5
> 
> If you have Scanmail on your servers now, it makes no sense to change to
> Groupsucks. As Martin has told you, you got good stuff now, you're going
> to
> get rotten stuff if management keeps on keeping on.
> 
> John Matteson; Exchange Manager
> Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards
> (404) 239 - 2981
> 
> With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. - RFC 1925
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 12:31 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5
> 
> 
> Going from Scanmail to NAV is like going from Prime Rib to ground
> round
> Your company will be very sorry it made this move. Since you already have
> Scanmail, there is no reason to dump it. I would SERIOUSLY put my foot
> down
> on this and fight it all the way to the top.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:17 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: NAV for Exchange 5.5
> 
> 
> Hi Folks,
> I just found out we are going with The Norton Solution for our company
> anti-virus protection. This is fine for server and client, but I was also
> told we would be using NAV's solution for Exchange. (Groupware I think). 
> Since I was not involved in this decision, but was the sole decision maker
> when I chose Scanmail...im not too happy. But...I turn to y'all again, as
> I
> did a few years ago for info on the best AV solution. This time I'm asking
> what kind of problems will I see with this new NAV scan engine that was
> chosen for MY Email servers? Is the NAV a solid, non-flaky product for
> Exchange? I couldn't really find anything major from the net..but y'all
> would know best. 
> Thanks!
> Ron
> 
> 
> 
> 
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RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

[Ron Grant]

I feel the same way. I really researched for the best solution back then,
and scanmail it has proven to be great...no crashed servers, no bluescreens
etc. We did have a few outbreaks, but that was I think due to scanmail being
on a P-133 and not being able to keep up with the influx. IF I can build a
strong enough case against NAV for scanning...and just do the server/client
side solution only, that would be great. I almost want to install it, and
have things crash for them not asking me about this...but IM the one that
has to recover the thing! :(
Ron

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:31 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Going from Scanmail to NAV is like going from Prime Rib to ground round
Your company will be very sorry it made this move. Since you already have
Scanmail, there is no reason to dump it. I would SERIOUSLY put my foot down
on this and fight it all the way to the top.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Hi Folks,
I just found out we are going with The Norton Solution for our company
anti-virus protection. This is fine for server and client, but I was also
told we would be using NAV's solution for Exchange. (Groupware I think). 
Since I was not involved in this decision, but was the sole decision maker
when I chose Scanmail...im not too happy. But...I turn to y'all again, as I
did a few years ago for info on the best AV solution. This time I'm asking
what kind of problems will I see with this new NAV scan engine that was
chosen for MY Email servers? Is the NAV a solid, non-flaky product for
Exchange? I couldn't really find anything major from the net..but y'all
would know best. 
Thanks!
Ron





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RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

[Couch, Nate]

ScanMail and Groupshield get my votes.

We are actually trying to get one of our customers off of NAV 2.1 Build 56
(too old to be effective).  One of the major drawbacks with this version is
that in order to block a file of extension type .xxx you actually have to go
into the registry and put an entry there.  Talk about antiquated.  I don't
know how their current version is, but I would check that out to make sure
you are not getting it.  A major pain in the ...


Cheers.

Nate Couch
EDS Messaging

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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:38
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:      RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5
> 
> Sybari Antigen for Exchange (www.sybari.com) is the best A/V Solution for
> your Exchange Server.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:17 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: NAV for Exchange 5.5
> 
> 
> Hi Folks,
> I just found out we are going with The Norton Solution for our company
> anti-virus protection. This is fine for server and client, but I was also
> told we would be using NAV's solution for Exchange. (Groupware I think). 
> Since I was not involved in this decision, but was the sole decision maker
> when I chose Scanmail...im not too happy. But...I turn to y'all again, as
> I
> did a few years ago for info on the best AV solution. This time I'm asking
> what kind of problems will I see with this new NAV scan engine that was
> chosen for MY Email servers? Is the NAV a solid, non-flaky product for
> Exchange? I couldn't really find anything major from the net..but y'all
> would know best. 
> Thanks!
> Ron
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

[bmurphy]

Run Sybari on the Exchange Server and Sophos Antivirus on the client side.
Sophos is the fastest I've seen with new updates.  Probably because they are
based in Europe.

-Original Message-
From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Kelly would agree with you on that.

John Matteson; Exchange Manager
Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards
(404) 239 - 2981

With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. - RFC 1925



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 12:39 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Sybari Antigen for Exchange (www.sybari.com) is the best A/V Solution for
your Exchange Server.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Hi Folks,
I just found out we are going with The Norton Solution for our company
anti-virus protection. This is fine for server and client, but I was also
told we would be using NAV's solution for Exchange. (Groupware I think). 
Since I was not involved in this decision, but was the sole decision maker
when I chose Scanmail...im not too happy. But...I turn to y'all again, as I
did a few years ago for info on the best AV solution. This time I'm asking
what kind of problems will I see with this new NAV scan engine that was
chosen for MY Email servers? Is the NAV a solid, non-flaky product for
Exchange? I couldn't really find anything major from the net..but y'all
would know best. 
Thanks!
Ron





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RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

[Martin Blackstone]

Yes, it is great as well. But the question isn't what should he use, it is
should he use NAV instead of the Scanmail he already has.

-Original Message-
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Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Sybari Antigen for Exchange (www.sybari.com) is the best A/V Solution for
your Exchange Server.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Hi Folks,
I just found out we are going with The Norton Solution for our company
anti-virus protection. This is fine for server and client, but I was also
told we would be using NAV's solution for Exchange. (Groupware I think). 
Since I was not involved in this decision, but was the sole decision maker
when I chose Scanmail...im not too happy. But...I turn to y'all again, as I
did a few years ago for info on the best AV solution. This time I'm asking
what kind of problems will I see with this new NAV scan engine that was
chosen for MY Email servers? Is the NAV a solid, non-flaky product for
Exchange? I couldn't really find anything major from the net..but y'all
would know best. 
Thanks!
Ron





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RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

[John Matteson]

Kelly would agree with you on that.

John Matteson; Exchange Manager
Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards
(404) 239 - 2981

With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. - RFC 1925



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 12:39 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Sybari Antigen for Exchange (www.sybari.com) is the best A/V Solution for
your Exchange Server.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Hi Folks,
I just found out we are going with The Norton Solution for our company
anti-virus protection. This is fine for server and client, but I was also
told we would be using NAV's solution for Exchange. (Groupware I think). 
Since I was not involved in this decision, but was the sole decision maker
when I chose Scanmail...im not too happy. But...I turn to y'all again, as I
did a few years ago for info on the best AV solution. This time I'm asking
what kind of problems will I see with this new NAV scan engine that was
chosen for MY Email servers? Is the NAV a solid, non-flaky product for
Exchange? I couldn't really find anything major from the net..but y'all
would know best. 
Thanks!
Ron





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RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

[John Matteson]

If you have Scanmail on your servers now, it makes no sense to change to
Groupsucks. As Martin has told you, you got good stuff now, you're going to
get rotten stuff if management keeps on keeping on.

John Matteson; Exchange Manager
Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards
(404) 239 - 2981

With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. - RFC 1925



-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 12:31 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Going from Scanmail to NAV is like going from Prime Rib to ground round
Your company will be very sorry it made this move. Since you already have
Scanmail, there is no reason to dump it. I would SERIOUSLY put my foot down
on this and fight it all the way to the top.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Hi Folks,
I just found out we are going with The Norton Solution for our company
anti-virus protection. This is fine for server and client, but I was also
told we would be using NAV's solution for Exchange. (Groupware I think). 
Since I was not involved in this decision, but was the sole decision maker
when I chose Scanmail...im not too happy. But...I turn to y'all again, as I
did a few years ago for info on the best AV solution. This time I'm asking
what kind of problems will I see with this new NAV scan engine that was
chosen for MY Email servers? Is the NAV a solid, non-flaky product for
Exchange? I couldn't really find anything major from the net..but y'all
would know best. 
Thanks!
Ron





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RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

[Martin Blackstone]

PS, another good argument is that it is a good thing to have 2 AV solutions
in place.
NAV on the servers and desktops, Scanmail on the Exch server. Quite often,
one AV program may pick up a virus that the other misses. Plus you get DATs
at different times. Symantec is NOTORIOUSLY slow in posting DAT updates.
Especially in emergency situations, whereas Trend is typically fast. If you
follow the NAV solution, you will may forced to bring email offline while
you wait ALL DAY for that DAT update.

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:31 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Going from Scanmail to NAV is like going from Prime Rib to ground round
Your company will be very sorry it made this move. Since you already have
Scanmail, there is no reason to dump it. I would SERIOUSLY put my foot down
on this and fight it all the way to the top.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Hi Folks,
I just found out we are going with The Norton Solution for our company
anti-virus protection. This is fine for server and client, but I was also
told we would be using NAV's solution for Exchange. (Groupware I think). 
Since I was not involved in this decision, but was the sole decision maker
when I chose Scanmail...im not too happy. But...I turn to y'all again, as I
did a few years ago for info on the best AV solution. This time I'm asking
what kind of problems will I see with this new NAV scan engine that was
chosen for MY Email servers? Is the NAV a solid, non-flaky product for
Exchange? I couldn't really find anything major from the net..but y'all
would know best. 
Thanks!
Ron





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RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

[bmurphy]

Sybari Antigen for Exchange (www.sybari.com) is the best A/V Solution for
your Exchange Server.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Hi Folks,
I just found out we are going with The Norton Solution for our company
anti-virus protection. This is fine for server and client, but I was also
told we would be using NAV's solution for Exchange. (Groupware I think). 
Since I was not involved in this decision, but was the sole decision maker
when I chose Scanmail...im not too happy. But...I turn to y'all again, as I
did a few years ago for info on the best AV solution. This time I'm asking
what kind of problems will I see with this new NAV scan engine that was
chosen for MY Email servers? Is the NAV a solid, non-flaky product for
Exchange? I couldn't really find anything major from the net..but y'all
would know best. 
Thanks!
Ron





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RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

[Tom Meunier]

It will work fine for you if you learn how to use it.  The rants are
usually from people who don't know how to use the tool.

I was pretty unhappy with my chainsaw, too, until I learned to hold by
the correct end.  Until then, it really did a number on me.

Read the readme.txt file, and pay attention to every caveat in it.  All
the rants you find in the archives (that I can recall) are about issues
that are either in the readme.txt or in their knowledge base "top ten
questions" list.

-Original Message-
From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:28 AM
Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
Conversation: NAV for Exchange 5.5
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


You should really look at the archives for this answer.
All the rants are contained there.

John Matteson; Exchange Manager
Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards
(404) 239 - 2981

With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. - RFC 1925

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 12:17 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Hi Folks,
I just found out we are going with The Norton Solution for our company
anti-virus protection. This is fine for server and client, but I was
also told we would be using NAV's solution for Exchange. (Groupware I
think). 
Since I was not involved in this decision, but was the sole decision
maker when I chose Scanmail...im not too happy. But...I turn to y'all
again, as I did a few years ago for info on the best AV solution. This
time I'm asking what kind of problems will I see with this new NAV scan
engine that was chosen for MY Email servers? Is the NAV a solid,
non-flaky product for Exchange? I couldn't really find anything major
from the net..but y'all would know best. 
Thanks!
Ron

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RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

[Martin Blackstone]

Going from Scanmail to NAV is like going from Prime Rib to ground round
Your company will be very sorry it made this move. Since you already have
Scanmail, there is no reason to dump it. I would SERIOUSLY put my foot down
on this and fight it all the way to the top.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Hi Folks,
I just found out we are going with The Norton Solution for our company
anti-virus protection. This is fine for server and client, but I was also
told we would be using NAV's solution for Exchange. (Groupware I think). 
Since I was not involved in this decision, but was the sole decision maker
when I chose Scanmail...im not too happy. But...I turn to y'all again, as I
did a few years ago for info on the best AV solution. This time I'm asking
what kind of problems will I see with this new NAV scan engine that was
chosen for MY Email servers? Is the NAV a solid, non-flaky product for
Exchange? I couldn't really find anything major from the net..but y'all
would know best. 
Thanks!
Ron





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RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

[Ron Grant]

I searched for "NAV for Exchange" but didn't find any threads on it. What
should I search for?

-Original Message-
From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:28 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

You should really look at the archives for this answer.
All the rants are contained there.

John Matteson; Exchange Manager
Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards
(404) 239 - 2981

With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. - RFC 1925

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 12:17 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Hi Folks,
I just found out we are going with The Norton Solution for our company
anti-virus protection. This is fine for server and client, but I was also
told we would be using NAV's solution for Exchange. (Groupware I think). 
Since I was not involved in this decision, but was the sole decision maker
when I chose Scanmail...im not too happy. But...I turn to y'all again, as I
did a few years ago for info on the best AV solution. This time I'm asking
what kind of problems will I see with this new NAV scan engine that was
chosen for MY Email servers? Is the NAV a solid, non-flaky product for
Exchange? I couldn't really find anything major from the net..but y'all
would know best. 
Thanks!
Ron

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RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

[John Matteson]

You should really look at the archives for this answer.
All the rants are contained there.

John Matteson; Exchange Manager
Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards
(404) 239 - 2981

With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. - RFC 1925

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 12:17 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Hi Folks,
I just found out we are going with The Norton Solution for our company
anti-virus protection. This is fine for server and client, but I was also
told we would be using NAV's solution for Exchange. (Groupware I think). 
Since I was not involved in this decision, but was the sole decision maker
when I chose Scanmail...im not too happy. But...I turn to y'all again, as I
did a few years ago for info on the best AV solution. This time I'm asking
what kind of problems will I see with this new NAV scan engine that was
chosen for MY Email servers? Is the NAV a solid, non-flaky product for
Exchange? I couldn't really find anything major from the net..but y'all
would know best. 
Thanks!
Ron

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NAV for Exchange 5.5

[Ron Grant]

Hi Folks,
I just found out we are going with The Norton Solution for our company
anti-virus protection. This is fine for server and client, but I was also
told we would be using NAV's solution for Exchange. (Groupware I think). 
Since I was not involved in this decision, but was the sole decision maker
when I chose Scanmail...im not too happy. But...I turn to y'all again, as I
did a few years ago for info on the best AV solution. This time I'm asking
what kind of problems will I see with this new NAV scan engine that was
chosen for MY Email servers? Is the NAV a solid, non-flaky product for
Exchange? I couldn't really find anything major from the net..but y'all
would know best. 
Thanks!
Ron





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RE: Is there a workaround to use both MAPI and AVAPI with NAV for Exchange 5.5?

[Ed Crowley]

I don't think there's any good reason to use MAPI if AVAPI is working.
AVAPI is supposedly infallible because it's in the middle of message flow;
that is, no messages are supposed to pass unless being passed through the
AVAPI.  I'm not familiar with NAV, but you should be absolutely sure that
you have the latest versions of NAV's code and the Microsoft AVAPI code.
Earlier versions were problematic.

Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP
Tech Consultant
Compaq Computer
"There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems."

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Alverson, Thomas
M.
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 6:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Is there a workaround to use both MAPI and AVAPI with NAV for
Ex change 5.5?


When we loaded the latest NAV for exchange 5.5 it had the new AVAPI option
so we had it use both MAPI and AVAPI modes.  This seemed to work but several
strange things began to happen.  First thing we noticed is that users who
tried to move a lot of messages from one folder to another would get error
messages (message was moved or access denied) and only some of the messages
would move.  They could get around this problem by moving messages one at a
time, but if they were trying to move 200 messages this would be
unsatisfactory.  Also, if you would try to export a users mail to a PST
file, you would get the same type of error and you would end up with a PST
that only had some of the messages you tried to export.

We turned off AVAPI and all is good again, except I'm sure it is possible to
slip a virus past the scanner if it gets too busy.  Does anyone know of a
workaround to make the AVAPI thing really work?

Tom

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