[FairfieldLife] Re: placebo effects

2005-07-12 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shanti2218411 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -I am defining hope here as the the expectation that things can change in a positive way.It is well understood that any treatment will influence a persons expectations. I've dropped out of this discussion, since it

[FairfieldLife] Re: placebo effects

2005-07-12 Thread anonymousff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shanti2218411 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -I am defining hope here as the the expectation that things can change in a positive way.It is well understood that any treatment will

[FairfieldLife] Re: Conditioning./Truth

2005-07-12 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for assembling this. I don't believe much spiritual truth can be found in ANY group, long term. A group may be useful for strengthening new knowledge or concepts, but true spiritual growth only takes place

[FairfieldLife] Re: placebo effects

2005-07-12 Thread anonymousff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shanti2218411 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The right therapy is the right therapy. Sometimes it involves drugs; sometimes it does not. My concern is that too many doctors aren't

[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-07-12 Thread Ingegerd
At the first TTC in Rishikesh in 1961, with appr. 80 persons wanting to be teachers in meditation. Shankaracharya was visiting them. Synnøve Flood from Norway did participate the course. She says: One day MMY was happier than usual. He told us that we soon would have a visit of Shankaracharia,

[FairfieldLife] The Inevitability of George W. Bush

2005-07-12 Thread bbrigante
Say what you will about the accomplices secretly running the show: Bush himself is the president. He is no dupe. A slobbering cretin nearly incapable of forming a coherent thought, or of operating a bicycle on a hill without running over a policeman; a feckless, soulless meta-bureaucrat with

[FairfieldLife] People in the West suffer more from mental illness

2005-07-12 Thread bbrigante
http://in.news.yahoo.com/050712/43/5zb5d.html People in the West suffer more from mental illness than those in poorer countries, with chances of recovery being higher in places like India than in say New York or London, says an Australian study. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL

[FairfieldLife] Health care as a relative phenomenon (was Re: placebo effects)

2005-07-12 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The right therapy is the right therapy. Sometimes it involves drugs; sometimes it does not. My concern is that too many doctors aren't

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mike Love the TM song

2005-07-12 Thread Premanand Paul Mason
Dennis Wilson (RIP) was more than just the drummer for the Beachboys, which considering the era and the expectations, he did most adequately. But the Beachboys were not an instrumental group, they offered up a distinctly refreshing vocal harmony style which all the group members contributed

[FairfieldLife] Thoughts around the no I phenomenon

2005-07-12 Thread Irmeli Mattsson
It has started to intrigue me what dr. Pete means by his no I or no subject experience. In #60544 dr.Pete wrote:In waking state there is a confound between awareness and I First some definitions, what I mean by I, self and object. These definitions are adopted from the book The Evolving Self

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FW: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-07-12 Thread Vaj
On Jul 11, 2005, at 11:59 PM, sparaig wrote: Over MMY, SSS, SDS, and anyone else that Vaj doesn't approve the teachings of... I wonder where you get this stuff sometimes. I'm certain many of the candidates for the Shankaracharya, certainly including Shantananda, would be excellent

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FW: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-07-12 Thread Vaj
On Jul 12, 2005, at 12:05 AM, anonymousff wrote: When did Swami Shantananda publicly endorse MMY? I remember lots of TMO interaction with him, his being at special TMO events in which he would say nice things about TMO and MMY, meeting with TTCers in India, and with 108 visiting India. By

[FairfieldLife] Karunamayi's visit to Fairfield, Chronicled

2005-07-12 Thread dhamiltony2k5
Karunamayi's visit: Amma's visit to Fairfield 13 to 15 June 2005 Brighter Than a Million Suns During the discourse in Fairfield, Amma held her hand over her heart and said to the crowd of attentive seekers, Inside each one of us is light that is brighter than a million suns. That is the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mike Love the TM song

2005-07-12 Thread markmeredith2002
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Premanand Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dennis Wilson (RIP) was more than just the drummer for the Beachboys, which considering the era and the expectations, he did most adequately. But the Beachboys were not an instrumental group, they offered up

[FairfieldLife] Re: Conditioning./Truth

2005-07-12 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm fascinated enough with this subject to make it its own thread, to see if others here are equally fascinated. Yes. I basically agree with most of what you say. This has been and continues to be my experience. My

[FairfieldLife] Re: Conditioning./Truth

2005-07-12 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I moved to Mother Meera, I realized that everybody in the house had different beliefs. Many were Krishnamurti types or Ramana types, some were Bhakti. snip rest for conciseness, not because I wasn't interested

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mike Love the TM song

2005-07-12 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dennis was also the one who introduced them to Charles Manson. No disrespect meant, he had a good voice, good vibes onstage Charlie? http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B05X1J/103-8106026-1223826

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mike Love the TM song

2005-07-12 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dennis was also the one who introduced them to Charles Manson. No disrespect meant, he had a good voice, good vibes onstage Charlie?

[FairfieldLife] Health care as a relative phenomenon

2005-07-12 Thread anonymousff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The right therapy is the right therapy. Sometimes it involves

[FairfieldLife] Re: Health care as a relative phenomenon

2005-07-12 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Like you, I am quite dissatisfied with the healthcare options / pricing in the US. My main point is that a majority of doctors (those working for HMOs) don't have that much discretion over the time they spend with

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FW: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-07-12 Thread Rick Archer
Forwarded to the people you mentioned. on 7/12/05 12:05 AM, akasha_108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's obvious that Swami Shantananda had a relationship with MMY of some kind, but what you're talking about was years

[FairfieldLife] (was Re: The Inevitability of George W. Bush) Rove's next trick

2005-07-12 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Say what you will about the accomplices secretly running the show: Bush himself is the president. He is no dupe. A slobbering cretin nearly incapable of forming a coherent thought, or of operating a bicycle on a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Health care as a relative phenomenon

2005-07-12 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip The chances of an American administration and/or an American Congress being able to resist the pressure and often outright bribes made by these companies is, in my opinion, slight. It's almost as if it'll require

[FairfieldLife] Re: Health care as a relative phenomenon

2005-07-12 Thread anonymousff
The bottom line with American health care is, sadly, the bottom line. It's all about money -- money made by the drug companies, by the hospitals and HMOs, by the insurance companies (*especially* the insurance companies), by the pharmacists, and by the doctors themselves. But then

[FairfieldLife] Re: Health care as a relative phenomenon

2005-07-12 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip The chances of an American administration and/or an American Congress being able to resist the pressure and often outright bribes made

[FairfieldLife] Re: Health care as a relative phenomenon

2005-07-12 Thread anonymousff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip The chances of an American administration and/or an

[FairfieldLife] Library/Fri 7:30 Kundalini Vidya

2005-07-12 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Library/Fri 7:30 Kundalini Vidya Kundalini Vidya: The Science of Spiritual Transformation For many in the West, Kundalini has been a subject of mystery and confusion. Now for the first time, in Fairfield, Joan Shivarpita Harrigan presents in a one day seminar the most

Re: [FairfieldLife] (was Re: The Inevitability of George W. Bush) Rove's next trick

2005-07-12 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Say what you will about the accomplices secretly running the show: Bush himself is the president. He is no dupe. A slobbering cretin nearly incapable of forming a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Health care as a relative phenomenon

2005-07-12 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip The chances of an American administration and/or an

[FairfieldLife] Re: Health care as a relative phenomenon

2005-07-12 Thread anonymousff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [FairfieldLife] (was Re: The Inevitability of George W. Bush) Rove's next trick

2005-07-12 Thread Rick Archer
on 7/12/05 10:31 AM, Peter Sutphen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Notice that the White House is silent about this so far. Trying to find a spin to make it okay. It's not. Mr. Rove is f-cked. I bet he'll stay as long as Bush does. What would Shrub do without his brain? To subscribe, send a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Health care as a relative phenomenon

2005-07-12 Thread Patrick Gillam
TurquoiseB wrote: In the US, these costs (emergency health care for the uninsured) are absorbed by individual state and local governments, which then have to raise *their* taxes, resulting in a higher and higher *total* tax bill to the taxpayer. The illusion of lower Federal

[FairfieldLife] Re: Health care as a relative phenomenon

2005-07-12 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip So the best solution is to turn the health whole mess to a boobish coniving administration and a corrupt, hostage-held congress, overseen by an emerging Supreme Court that may overturn or highly restrict Roe.V

[FairfieldLife] (was Re: The Inevitability of George W. Bush) Rove's next trick

2005-07-12 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Notice that the White House is silent about this so far. Trying to find a spin to make it okay. It's not. Mr. Rove is f-cked. Agreed that he is, but more as a personal opinion ;) The pattern has been when they get

[FairfieldLife] Re: Library/Fri 7:30 Kundalini Vidya

2005-07-12 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kundalini Vidya: The Science of Spiritual Transformation For many in the West, Kundalini has been a subject of mystery and confusion. Now for the first time, in Fairfield, Joan Shivarpita Harrigan presents in a

Re: [FairfieldLife] (was Re: The Inevitability of George W. Bush) Rove's next trick

2005-07-12 Thread Bhairitu
You can put more pressure on the White House here: http://www.moveonpac.org/firerove/ - Bhairitu jim_flanegin wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Say what you will about the accomplices secretly running the show: Bush himself is the president.

[FairfieldLife] (was Re: The Inevitability of George W. Bush) Rove's next trick

2005-07-12 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Notice that the White House is silent about this so far. Trying to find a spin to make it okay. It's not. Mr. Rove is f-cked. Agreed

[FairfieldLife] (was Re: The Inevitability of George W. Bush) Rove's next trick

2005-07-12 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Notice that the White House is silent about this so far. Trying to find a spin to make it okay. It's not. Mr. Rove is f-cked.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Library/Fri 7:30 Kundalini Vidya

2005-07-12 Thread Vaj
On Jul 12, 2005, at 12:36 PM, cardemaister wrote: I *guess* that's ma-kaara (making 'ma') rather than makara: 1 makara m., {I} f. a kind of sea monster (the emblem of the god of love); array of troops in the form of a M. 2 makaara m. the sound {ma}. I think it would be interesting to see

[FairfieldLife] (was Re: The Inevitability of George W. Bush) Rove's next trick

2005-07-12 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Notice that the White House is silent about this so

[FairfieldLife] (was Re: The Inevitability of George W. Bush) Rove's next trick

2005-07-12 Thread anonymousff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Notice that the White House is silent about this so far.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Health care as a relative phenomenon

2005-07-12 Thread anonymousff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip So the best solution is to turn the health whole mess to a boobish coniving administration and a corrupt, hostage-held congress,

[FairfieldLife] Get married by a King.

2005-07-12 Thread Rick Archer
His Majesty Nadar Ram is making a little on the side.

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Inevitability of George W. Bush

2005-07-12 Thread tazarmfune
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Say what you will about the accomplices secretly running the show: Bush himself is the president. He is no dupe. A slobbering cretin nearly incapable of forming a coherent thought, or of operating a bicycle on a

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Inevitability of George W. Bush

2005-07-12 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tazarmfune [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Say what you will about the accomplices secretly running the show: Bush himself is the president. He is no dupe. A slobbering cretin

[FairfieldLife] TM grad school?

2005-07-12 Thread tomandcindytraynor
TurquoiseB writes: What do people think? I'm certainly interested to Hear if such teachings *are* available, or even Theoretically available in the materials left to the posterity Of the TM movement. Unc Tom T writes: We currently have a weekly gathering of about 25 to 35 going on here in

[FairfieldLife] (was Re: The Inevitability of George W. Bush) Rove's next trick

2005-07-12 Thread anonymousff
What am I missing here? I agree Rove's action look a bit smoking gunish. But at this point all that is known publically (the grand jury may know far more) is that in a rushed two minute convo, on double deep background, he told a reporter, Cooper, that Joe Wilson could not be trusted and he only

[FairfieldLife] Conceptual Models and Experience

2005-07-12 Thread tomandcindytraynor
Akasha 108 writes: So again, is cessation of identification of consciousness with mind -- end of I and me both a necessary and sufficient condition for enlightenment and or awakening per your POV? This question is directed specifically to Peter and Vaj, and Tom if he is around, and certainly

[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-07-12 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At the first TTC in Rishikesh in 1961, with appr. 80 persons wanting to be teachers in meditation. Shankaracharya was visiting them. Synnøve Flood from Norway did participate the course. She says: One day MMY was

[FairfieldLife] Re: People in the West suffer more from mental illness

2005-07-12 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://in.news.yahoo.com/050712/43/5zb5d.html People in the West suffer more from mental illness than those in poorer countries, with chances of recovery being higher in places like India than in say New York or

[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-07-12 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 11, 2005, at 11:59 PM, sparaig wrote: Over MMY, SSS, SDS, and anyone else that Vaj doesn't approve the teachings of... I wonder where you get this stuff sometimes. I'm certain many of the candidates for

[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-07-12 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 12, 2005, at 12:02 AM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 11, 2005, at 2:51 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: I wonder where you get this stuff sometimes. I'm

[FairfieldLife] Re: Conditioning./Truth

2005-07-12 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm fascinated enough with this subject to make it its own thread, to see if others here are equally fascinated. Yes. I basically agree with

[FairfieldLife] Re: Health care as a relative phenomenon

2005-07-12 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip The chances of an American administration and/or an American Congress being able to resist the pressure and often outright bribes made

[FairfieldLife] Re: Health care as a relative phenomenon

2005-07-12 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip The chances of an American administration and/or an

[FairfieldLife] 'Boy-President in a Failed World?...'

2005-07-12 Thread Robert Gimbel
http://www.alternet.org/story/23469/ Yahoo! Mail for Mobile Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO!

[FairfieldLife] Re: Library/Fri 7:30 Kundalini Vidya

2005-07-12 Thread sparaig
And people wonder why the TMO leaders get annoyed when other meditation/technique teachers come to town. The presumption of learning the TM Sidhis is that you've come to the realization that TM is the best technique out there and you don't need to seek other teachers, but want something more.

[FairfieldLife] (was Re: The Inevitability of George W. Bush) Rove's next trick

2005-07-12 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Say what you will about the accomplices secretly running the show: Bush himself is

[FairfieldLife] Re: Health care as a relative phenomenon

2005-07-12 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TurquoiseB wrote: In the US, these costs (emergency health care for the uninsured) are absorbed by individual state and local governments, which then have to raise *their* taxes, resulting in a

[FairfieldLife] (was Re: The Inevitability of George W. Bush) Rove's next trick

2005-07-12 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Notice that the White House is silent about this so

[FairfieldLife] Re: Library/Fri 7:30 Kundalini Vidya

2005-07-12 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 12, 2005, at 12:36 PM, cardemaister wrote: I *guess* that's ma-kaara (making 'ma') rather than makara: 1 makara m., {I} f. a kind of sea monster (the emblem of the god of love); array of troops in the form of a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Health care as a relative phenomenon

2005-07-12 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] [...] I prefer something along the lines of the above -- a competitive, market-driven, pro-consumer choice system -- to another bloated, stogy, bureaucratic, one-choice, goverment health care program. Your tastes may vary.

[FairfieldLife] a very specific Jyotish prediction-the current Discovery launch time

2005-07-12 Thread shukra69
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SAMVA/message/8993 To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to:

[FairfieldLife] (was Re: The Inevitability of George W. Bush) Rove's next trick

2005-07-12 Thread sparaig
ANY communication of a secret operative's name by someone Who Should KNow Better is against the law, and in a very big way, at that. It doesn't matter if the story was published, or if it was to a reporter or your milkman. The law is about the leak, not who the leak is to. --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-07-12 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 12, 2005, at 1:38 PM, sparaig wrote: Ever wonder what MMY's chart looked like? I've already looked at it. Some good points some bad points, like most of us. How do you know its MMY's chart? To subscribe,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Library/Fri 7:30 Kundalini Vidya

2005-07-12 Thread Vaj
On Jul 12, 2005, at 1:57 PM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 12, 2005, at 12:36 PM, cardemaister wrote: I *guess* that's ma-kaara (making 'ma') rather than makara: 1 makara m., {I} f. a kind of sea monster (the emblem of the god of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Health care as a relative phenomenon

2005-07-12 Thread anonymousff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] [...] I prefer something along the lines of the above -- a competitive, market-driven, pro-consumer choice system -- to another bloated, stogy,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Health care as a relative phenomenon

2005-07-12 Thread Robert Gimbel
I'm not sure how efficient the V.A. is, although I heard recently, that they, are running out of money quickly, and are asking for a doubling of thier budget; This seems to be due to two reason, 1. the aging of the previous vets needing service; 2. The thousands of wounded vets from the

Re: [FairfieldLife] TM grad school?

2005-07-12 Thread Rick Archer
on 7/12/05 12:19 PM, tomandcindytraynor at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TurquoiseB writes: What do people think? I'm certainly interested to Hear if such teachings *are* available, or even Theoretically available in the materials left to the posterity Of the TM movement. Unc Tom T

Re: [FairfieldLife] a very specific Jyotish prediction-the current Discovery launch time

2005-07-12 Thread Rick Archer
on 7/12/05 1:01 PM, shukra69 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SAMVA/message/8993 Non-members can't read this. What does it say? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'

Re: [FairfieldLife] Library/Fri 7:30 Kundalini Vidya

2005-07-12 Thread Llundrub
Title: Library/Fri 7:30 Kundalini Vidya You gotta love those exotic Hindu gurus. Go study with one, come back an expert, start a website. Give kundalini rising tests and cures for dopes, and make a fucking fortune. Yeah, Jaya Swami. - Original Message - From: Rick Archer To:

[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-07-12 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 12, 2005, at 2:04 PM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 12, 2005, at 1:38 PM, sparaig wrote: Ever wonder what MMY's chart looked like? I've already

Re: [FairfieldLife] TM grad school?

2005-07-12 Thread Llundrub
Grad schools have specific programs for study. Now Phd programs are supposed to add to the body of available knowledge something of original status. - Original Message - From: tomandcindytraynor To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 12:19 PM Subject:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Health care as a relative phenomenon

2005-07-12 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] [...] I prefer something along the lines of the above -- a competitive,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Health care as a relative phenomenon

2005-07-12 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not sure how efficient the V.A. is, although I heard recently, that they, are running out of money quickly, and are asking for a doubling of thier budget; This seems to be due to two reason, 1. the aging of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Health care as a relative phenomenon

2005-07-12 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip The chances of an American administration and/or an

[FairfieldLife] Re: Health care as a relative phenomenon

2005-07-12 Thread anonymousff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[FairfieldLife] 'Divide and Conquer/Rove's Philosophy/Comes Back to Haunt...'

2005-07-12 Thread Robert Gimbel
It looks as though the forces are massing for a division within the WH. If Bush and Rove were divided, then I would think his Presidency would be greatly weakened. Perhaps even beyond the point of Rove's master, Richard Nixon. 'Dirty Tricks' have a way of coming back... 'As you sow, so

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM grad school?

2005-07-12 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tomandcindytraynor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TurquoiseB writes: What do people think? I'm certainly interested to Hear if such teachings *are* available, or even Theoretically available in the materials left to the posterity Of the TM movement.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: From: Vajranatha [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2005-07-12 Thread Llundrub
The point is that you're confusing various people, and then when your confusion is pointed out you just say basically, it doesn't matter because the tenor of the posts is critical. I mean, maybe you didn't say that exactly, but that's still the effect of your words because you have

[FairfieldLife] (was Re: The Inevitability of George W. Bush) Rove's next trick

2005-07-12 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Notice that the White House is silent about this so far. Trying to find a spin to make it okay. It's not. Mr. Rove is f-cked.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FW: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-07-12 Thread Vaj
On Jul 12, 2005, at 2:39 PM, sparaig wrote: So, I take it that the official TM Jyotish chart showed that MMY wasn't special? A mixture, list most things--some real interesting items. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/

[FairfieldLife] Re: Health care as a relative phenomenon

2005-07-12 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We already pay extraordinarily high taxes in this country. Our SS fund has been used as a resevoir for tax refunds to the wealthy and for public funding of wars, and corporate subsidies, etc. All of that comes out of the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: From: Vajranatha [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2005-07-12 Thread Vaj
On Jul 12, 2005, at 2:46 PM, shukra69 wrote: thats my name I'm not trying to be anonymous, like so many people here who are also not trying to be anonymous and I have no problem with people who are anti-TM or anti-MMY. What I am offended by is someone who hides behind anonymity to spread

[FairfieldLife] Re: From: Vajranatha no-reply@shunyata.net

2005-07-12 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 12, 2005, at 2:46 PM, shukra69 wrote: snip If you have a specific question, why don't you just ask rather than posting these crazy tirades? Much of the time on alt.m.t, you have been unwilling to answer questions when

[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-07-12 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 12, 2005, at 2:39 PM, sparaig wrote: So, I take it that the official TM Jyotish chart showed that MMY wasn't special? A mixture, list most things--some real interesting items. What was MMY's time and birhtplace

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: From: Vajranatha [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2005-07-12 Thread Vaj
On Jul 12, 2005, at 3:14 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 12, 2005, at 2:46 PM, shukra69 wrote: snip If you have a specific question, why don't you just ask rather than posting these crazy tirades? Much of the time on

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FW: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-07-12 Thread Vaj
On Jul 12, 2005, at 3:16 PM, akasha_108 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 12, 2005, at 2:39 PM, sparaig wrote: So, I take it that the official TM Jyotish chart showed that MMY wasn't special? A mixture, list most things--some real

[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-07-12 Thread TurquoiseB
Ever wonder what MMY's chart looked like? I've already looked at it. Some good points some bad points, like most of us. How do you know its MMY's chart? Well we had several times presented here--all within a few minutes of one another, but one was used on a TM Jyotish

[FairfieldLife] New file uploaded to FairfieldLife

2005-07-12 Thread FairfieldLife
Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the FairfieldLife group. File: /Jyotish/MMY_chart_GJ.pdf Uploaded by : safeite [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description : MMY Jyotish chart with basic interpretation. You can

[FairfieldLife] Housesitter

2005-07-12 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Housesitter We need a housesitter from the 17th-31st or the 23rd-31st. The main reason is we need someone to take care of our cats. We have a nice place. You would have broadband internet access. If interested, email (dont call) me. -- Rick Archer SearchSummit 1108 South B Street

[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: The Jyotirmath Shankaracharya Lineage in the 20th Century

2005-07-12 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 12, 2005, at 3:16 PM, akasha_108 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 12, 2005, at 2:39 PM, sparaig wrote: So, I take it that the official TM Jyotish chart showed

[FairfieldLife] Defense Spending

2005-07-12 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not to mention that in the US 48% of the yearly Federal budget goes to paying for America's current wars, pre- paring for the next ones, or paying off the debts from the last ones. This is true of no other country on

[FairfieldLife] Re: Health care as a relative phenomenon

2005-07-12 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not sure how efficient the V.A. is, although I heard recently, that they, are running out of money quickly, and are asking for a doubling of thier budget; This seems to be due to two reason, 1. the aging of

[FairfieldLife] Re: From: Vajranatha [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2005-07-12 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 12, 2005, at 3:14 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 12, 2005, at 2:46 PM, shukra69 wrote: snip If you have a specific question, why don't you just

[FairfieldLife] Re: Library/Fri 7:30 Kundalini Vidya

2005-07-12 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 12, 2005, at 1:57 PM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 12, 2005, at 12:36 PM, cardemaister wrote: I *guess* that's ma-kaara (making 'ma') rather than

[FairfieldLife] Re: Defense Spending

2005-07-12 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not to mention that in the US 48% of the yearly Federal budget goes to paying for America's current wars, pre- paring for the next ones, or

[FairfieldLife] Re: Defense Spending

2005-07-12 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not to mention that in the US 48% of the yearly Federal budget goes to paying for America's current wars, pre- paring for the next ones, or

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: From: Vajranatha [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2005-07-12 Thread Vaj
On Jul 12, 2005, at 4:14 PM, authfriend wrote: Much of the time on alt.m.t, you have been unwilling to answer questions when they're asked, Vaj. When it becomes obvious that no one is actually interested in discussing something but instead looking for an argument, it's extremely unlikely I

[FairfieldLife] 'Karl Rove/The Puppet and The Puppeteer...'

2005-07-12 Thread Robert Gimbel
Bergen and McCarthy By Marshall Wittmann | bio From: Politics Democrats should not get too excited about the presumed crisis confronting Rove. Short of a criminal indictment, Rove is not going anywhere. As I wrote in my blog this morning,for Bush to get rid of Rove, would be like Charlie

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