--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Don Miller pod1...@... wrote:
The meek shall inherit the earth? No, that isn't how it works in general
evolution.
Evidence from people who have become enlightened, or from temporary drug
effects, or even in my own experiences, show that a
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, randyanand ra...@... wrote:
Its true. And somehow he thinks he knows everything about
Maharishi's time with Guru Dev and is an expert in that area
also. He appears to really believe that all Maharishi was
during that time was a glorified clerk running
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Don Miller pod1...@... wrote:
It is important to keep in mind that evolution is set up to
favor not the individual, but rather the species. In the long
view of evolution one can understand a distinct advantage
towards those humans who are dissatisfied
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, randyanand ra...@... wrote:
Hey Vaj,
Most of the real yogi's that I met in India, never practiced asanas.
You should know that yoga means so much than asana. So if Maharishi had
someone else who was an expert in that areadesign the course, it just
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, vajradhatu108 no_re...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, randyanand ra108@ wrote:
And he also believes Maharishi poisoned Guru Dev and there is no evidence of
this either.
Is that what I believe?
News to me.
Well if you
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, randyanand ra108@ wrote:
Its true. And somehow he thinks he knows everything about
Maharishi's time with Guru Dev and is an expert in that area
also. He appears to really
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, randyanand ra...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
One of my ongoing points on this forum has been to
point out this knee-jerk behavior on the part of TMers.
I can recognize it because (sadly) I participated
Just GOTTA pass this one along, given my rant below about
Lisbeth, to all those who have read the books and loved
them or (like me) seen the movies and loved them. It's
a parody of Stieg Larsson's writing style done for the
New Yorker by Nora Ephron. Hilarious. Spot-on. :-)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, randyanand ra...@... wrote:
What is it with you vaj. You didn't at all deal with the point I was making.
Just because Maharishi was not an expert or even a practitoner of hatha yoga
does not mean he was not a yogi.
And by the way, in a post you made
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@... wrote:
On Jul 8, 2010, at 7:47 PM, vajradhatu108 wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, randyanand ra108@ wrote:
Hey Vaj,
Most of the real yogi's that I met in India, never practiced asanas.
You should
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero yifux...@... wrote:
right...this is the Internet, not a Dan Brown conspiratorial group. Just come
right out and state your agenda, no problem. People would applaud you (Vaj)
first, first for doing that; then reserving the choice to blast the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sun...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, randyanand ra108@ wrote:
If you haven't noticed, Vaj has the constant need to be right on his
opinions. For some reason, he thinks he is an expert about Indian and
Vedic
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sun...@... wrote:
vajradhatu108 no_reply@ wrote:
Mastery of yoga isn't dependent on literacy.
Having said that, I was never a fan of Vivekananda and the other
vaishnava-protestant Hindu supremacists expounding their mythical
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sun...@... wrote:
I'm heading over to Batgap. The question I have is, will there be any
discussion of The Book I say no. I think they generally avoid
unpleasant topics. Well, here I go folks. If you don't hear back from you
in
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, randyanand ra108@ wrote:
Its true. And somehow he thinks he knows everything about
Maharishi's time with Guru Dev and is an expert in that area
also. He appears to really
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, randyanand ra...@... wrote:
News to me.
Well if you don't believe it, why did you say that Mahrishi poisoned his Guru
in a resonse to something I said months ago on this forum.
Randyanand, could you please point me to that post so I'm clear what
And yet he changed so many people's lives for the better -- indeed, rescued
many lives, mine included. He figured out a way of reaching me, a confused
17-year-old high school drop out, and giving me something that permanently
turned my life around. I guess all the more qualified yogis were
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero yifux...@... wrote:
I don't see much, if any, evolutionary edge in this; since the
enlightened people may be less likely to spread their genes around.
In your first line you are restating what I was stating in the post,
that there is no
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Don Miller pod127b@ wrote:
It is important to keep in mind that evolution is set up to
favor not the individual, but rather the species. In the long
view of evolution one can
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Don Miller pod127b@ wrote:
The meek shall inherit the earth? No, that isn't how it works in general
evolution.
Don, you have seriously pondered the answer to this question but
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 fest...@... wrote:
And yet he changed so many people's lives for the better -- indeed, rescued
many lives, mine included. He figured out a way of reaching me, a confused
17-year-old high school drop out, and giving me something that
If there were an evolutionary advantage in enlightenment, then most humans
would already be enlightened (and maybe they really are, but fail to recognize
it!). On the other hand, to hell with evolution, because it is just in favor
of the species, not the individual. As individuals, evolution
I'm trying to lay low on this subject, and may
even after having read the book, but Vaj came
up with a sentence in his post that I just have
to riff on.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, vajradhatu108 no_re...@... wrote:
So the question naturally arises, if you're not in deep
denial,
Many of the world's greatest teachers have described how we each create our own
existence. Here is post that explains this important topic in greater detail -
enjoy !
http://sathyasaimemories.wordpress.com/2010/07/09/a-study-of-thought-forms-daskalos-child-of-light/
you specifically said that Maharishi
poisoned his guru...
Vaj:
Actually Mahesh was a *leading suspect*
in the poisoning of Swami Brahmananda,
You are incorrect. Can you present any
evidence that Mahesh Yogi was a suspect
in the murder of an Indian Shankarachary?
Please post it here
Or, of course, maybe he just added
the yogi as his own alias?
Or maybe he really meant Yogi Bear?
We'll never know.
Vaj:
Hmmm.
Apparently Sal and Vaj don't realize that
in India the term 'yogi' is meant to be an
alias. LOL!
Yep, and that's the crux of it, isn't it? For me, that's what makes discussing
this aspect of MMY's life so fascinating.
He can't be seen in black or white terms and that is something that really
comes out in Judith's book. Or, as I think she puts it: separating the Maha
from the Rishi.
Was
On Jul 9, 2010, at 11:05 AM, WillyTex wrote:
Actually, in the rumor spread by the Swami
Prakashanand Saraswati, Mahesh was NOT the
*leading suspect* - it was the Jyotirmath
Ashram 'cook'.
Not the leading suspect, a leading suspect.
The point here is not whether he did it, whether he knew
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, vajradhatu108 no_re...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, randyanand ra108@ wrote:
News to me.
Well if you don't believe it, why did you say that Mahrishi poisoned his
Guru in a resonse to something I said months ago on this
On Jul 9, 2010, at 11:34 AM, randyanand wrote:
It was in a back and forth posting on Fairifield Life many month ago.
I was making the point that you kept referring to Maharishi as
Mahesh and it was disrespectful because whatever you think of him,
thats his name. You countered with, you
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of feste37
Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 7:53 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mahesh YINO
And yet he changed so many people's lives for the better -- indeed, rescued
many
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(Bloomberg) -- The U.S. Defense of Marriage Act, which defines the
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For older Americans surveyed by Allianz Life Insurance Co., death is not
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Actually, in the rumor spread by the Swami
Prakashanand Saraswati, Mahesh was NOT the
*leading suspect* - it was the Jyotirmath
Ashram 'cook'.
Vaj:
Not the leading suspect, a leading suspect.
Apparently this whole 'poison' rumor was made up
by the Svarupanand camp, in their effort
On Jul 9, 2010, at 1:03 PM, WillyTex wrote:
Actually, in the rumor spread by the Swami
Prakashanand Saraswati, Mahesh was NOT the
*leading suspect* - it was the Jyotirmath
Ashram 'cook'.
Vaj:
Not the leading suspect, a leading suspect.
Apparently this whole 'poison' rumor was made up
http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/features/2010/08/drugs-in-hollywood-201008
So far, steel and oil magnates, real-estate barrons; and those with lots of
insider trading; as well as those with creative ideas and lots of start-up cash.
check out the http://www.vf.com article on Steve Cohen; one of the traders
making tons of $$ in recent years.
Cockroaches.
What confuses me, which is pretty easy to, there is no federal law requiring a
marriage license or marriage claim. So I do not understand why federal has
anything to do with marriage.
From: do.rflex do.rf...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent:
There's no mention of this incident anywhere else
than I can determine.
Vaj:
Clearly any mention of it would have been squelched
by TM insiders if they thought it could reflect badly
on their org or teacher...
Just admit it, Vaj, you and Perino started the rumor.
He has created his
Latin America: Six countries reach required number of Yogic Flyers for national
invincibility
http://globalgoodnews.com/world-peace-a.html?art=12785363151230266
Fwd from: bblackm...@natel.net
Dear Friends and Supporters of the Quiet Zone,
Yesterday the Public Safety Transportation Committee of the Ff. City
Council met and unanimously voted to move forward with the QZ and
will recommend the same to the City Council on Monday the 12th of
July at 7
Rick Archer wrote:
Cockroaches.
Most likely. Many blow off apocalyptic predictions because they've been
around every generation. This time however we have a burgeoning
population on the planet earth and an establishment that DOES NOT want
to accommodate it.
With the voice of John Perkins (Confessions of an Economic Hitman):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37Dvt2EqXF4
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ditzyklanmail carc...@... wrote:
What confuses me, which is pretty easy to, there is no federal law requiring
a
marriage license or marriage claim. So I do not understand why federal has
anything to do with marriage.
Maybe this video report will
MMY states that the human physiology is already able to sustain bliss
consciousness and thus enlightenment. He said that most people are asleep to
this fact. Therefore, it is a matter of waking up the people throughout the
world of this inherent gift of being human.
On the other hand, Pere
According to present understanding of the solar system, the Sun will consume
the Earth in fire several millions of years from now. So, don't hold your
breath for this.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote:
Rick Archer wrote:
Cockroaches.
Most likely. Many
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_re...@... wrote:
Paul predicted Spain shall beat Germany!
The latter badly needs more YFfers? :/
T'would've been kewl, if Paul had chosen the Winner, Netherlands!
Unfortunately He chose Spain; everybody even down in Texas
knows, that
There's another theme at least in the original movie and I would expect
throughout the rest of the books and movie and that is the exposing the
dark secrets of wealthy families.
TurquoiseB wrote:
Just GOTTA pass this one along, given my rant below about
Lisbeth, to all those who have read
, Netherlands!
Unfortunately He chose Spain; everybody even down in Texas
knows, that the Superradiance from Vlodrop makes Netherlands
practically invincible!
Don't worry Carde at least one member of the psychic animal kingdom
is on your side:
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/18/20100709/tod-psychic
On Jul 9, 2010, at 10:34 AM, randyanand wrote:
Oh and by the way, many months ago we got into a discussion about the
Shankaracharya tradition. You stated it was part of the Vaishnava tradition.
I disagreed and said it was a Shaivite tradition. We went back and forth on
this and I finally
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:
I'm trying to lay low on this subject,
HaHa, joke of the week !
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willy...@... wrote:
From what I've read, the Mahesh Yogi
was the real driving force behind the
revitalization of the Jyotirmath. It
was Mahesh Yogi that got the President
of India to visit the Shankaracharya.
And it was Mahesh that organized
Money will do that.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willytex@ wrote:
From what I've read, the Mahesh Yogi
was the real driving force behind the
revitalization of the Jyotirmath. It
was Mahesh
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:
On Jul 9, 2010, at 11:34 AM, randyanand wrote:
It was in a back and forth posting on Fairifield Life many month ago.
I was making the point that you kept referring to Maharishi as
Mahesh and it was disrespectful
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote:
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of feste37
Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 7:53 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mahesh YINO
And yet
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@... wrote:
On Jul 9, 2010, at 10:34 AM, randyanand wrote:
Oh and by the way, many months ago we got into a discussion about the
Shankaracharya tradition. You stated it was part of the Vaishnava
tradition. I disagreed
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willy...@... wrote:
Actually, in the rumor spread by the Swami
Prakashanand Saraswati, Mahesh was NOT the
*leading suspect* - it was the Jyotirmath
Ashram 'cook'.
Vaj:
Not the leading suspect, a leading suspect.
Apparently
On Jul 9, 2010, at 6:37 PM, randyanand wrote:
Oh yes, I see. You know more about the Shankaracharya tradition than the
Shankaracharya ashrams themselves. If they say they are Shaivite tradition,
they must not know what they are talking about, even though its about
themselves.
LOL,
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There is no reason to believe that Vaj is a Buddhist. Apparently he has
studied some type of Buddhist practice, either by mere reading or from
some type of teacher. That doesn't make him a Buddhist.
Buddhists are very much into verifying their teachers and are quite
against make-it-up-ism.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptyb...@... wrote:
There is no reason to believe that Vaj is a Buddhist. Apparently he has
studied some type of Buddhist practice, either by mere reading or from
some type of teacher. That doesn't make him a Buddhist.
Buddhists are
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe geezerfr...@... wrote:
Yep, and that's the crux of it, isn't it? For me, that's what makes
discussing this aspect of MMY's life so fascinating.
He can't be seen in black or white terms and that is something that
really comes out in Judith's book. Or,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, randyanand ra...@... wrote:
What is it with you vaj. You didn't at all deal with
the point I was making. Just because Maharishi was
not an expert or even a practitoner of hatha yoga does
not mean he was not a yogi.
Vaj has been pushing this bit of
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe geezerfr...@... wrote:
No, I don't want to do that, sorry. This well written, well
researched book is worth the $40.
The book provides context for the stories, which a cliff
notes version would not. I'd be willing to bet you'll find
things in
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote:
Nabby wrote:
Is that so ? You're greatly misinformed.
Rick wrote:
Watch the Larry King interview
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0icNZnUxYo0
This was taped quite late in his life. King
asked him if he had any
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, randyanand ra108@ wrote:
Its true. And somehow he thinks he knows everything about
Maharishi's time with Guru Dev and is an expert in that area
also. He appears to really believe
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, vajradhatu108 no_re...@... wrote:
snip
Actually Mahesh was a *leading suspect* in the poisoning
of Swami Brahmananda,
That's false. In the first place, that Guru Dev was
poisoned was itself never more than a rumor. There was
never any official conclusion
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, vajradhatu108 no_re...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@ wrote:
snip
The only question I might
have is, why, when you stepped upon a different,
apparantly better path, are you so interested in the
path you've
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:
snip
While advising others to be what he was not (celibate),
even if married. While promoting King Tony as also
celibate while (if Da King himself can be believed)
knowing full well that he had a wife and kids.
It's
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of seventhray1
Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 7:41 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mahesh YINO
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe geezerfr...@... wrote:
Yep, and
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of authfriend
Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 8:09 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Robes of Silk, Feet of Clay/Judith Bourque
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Did you know that MMY, at least in 1970, harbored a desire to become Prime
Minister of India?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@ wrote:
There is no reason to believe that Vaj is a
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Joe
Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 9:31 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mahesh YINO
Did you know that MMY, at least in 1970, harbored a desire to become Prime
Minister of
Judith's marketing plan? I really have no idea. She did thank me for my support
and said she was not quite sure what to expect, but that so far, every response
had been like minemeaning that the reader came away impressed by her
honesty and heart.
I'll ask but I think, for now, she's just
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote:
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of authfriend
Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 8:09 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Robes of Silk, Feet of
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe geezerfr...@... wrote:
Judith's marketing plan? I really have no idea. She did thank me for my
support and said she was not quite sure what to expect, but that so far,
every response had been like minemeaning that the reader came away
impressed
Forgot to mention, she should advertise it on her other
Web site. She has a link to the page where she sells it,
but it's just the URL with no explanation of what it is.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe geezerfreak@
Maybe I will dare to try and shed some light on this. From the book, it's clear
that MMY felt very conflicted about his sexual activity, at least during this
time. After their first time together, MMY cancels all of his lectures (in the
Rishikesh lecture hall) for the day. Judith became
Thanks Judy, I have forwarded your comments to her.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe geezerfreak@ wrote:
Judith's marketing plan? I really have no idea. She did thank me for my
support and said she was not quite
Can you spot the difference:
Hän menestyy... = He/she succeeds...
Hän menehtyy... = He/she perishes...
Legend:
ä ~= 'a' in 'bat'
y ~= 'u' in French 'excuse moi'
Today, I went back to read through the sexy-sadie files.the various e-mail
correspondence between MMY's skin boys of the late 60s and early 70s: Casey
Coleman, Ned Wynn, Rob McCutchean and John somebodyI assume John Black,
later John Bright.
As direct, funny and unforgiving as Ned
I meant to include this e-mail from Ned Wynn, possibly his best. (Again,
here's a guy in a position to knowsomeone who was literally, as the
expression was in those days on the door):
Sat, 31 Aug 2002 20:50:43 -0700
From: Ned Wynn
Subject: Re: E-mail and its power Casey,
I agree,
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