Jason wrote:
(snip)
There are clear, distinct, differences between
'materialism' 'naturalism' and 'reductionism'.
Nagel probably uses these terms interchangably and with
some ambiguity.
--- authfriend authfriend@ wrote:
Wrong again, Jason.
'Materialism' is a much more
--- anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote:
I misread that same passage, interpreting it as
transcending forever; natural language has a tendency to
be ambiguous, but harping on that repeatedly does not
further the conversation. Iranitea has made some
interesting observations and provided information
Jason wrote:
Xeno, it's not clear what Nagel exactly means by
materialist.
Judy wrote:
Yes, it is. It's one who believes that everything can
be accounted for at the most basic level by the physical
sciences, extended to include biology.
Jason wrote:
In fact, many
--- salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@ wrote:
--snip--
While I do not have time to enter the fray here at the moment,
I did notice this thread about 'Mind and Cosmos' which I have
*not* read but which seemingly brings up once again the 'hard
problem of consciousness'.
://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhSjwU8gEsI
--- Jason wrote:
Hey Bob, it's so nice to have you here. You add color and
an extra dimension to this group.
I think you scared Barry which is why he doesn't reply to
you.
We are geneticaly hardwired to see symmetrical faces
--- Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote:
I experimented and researched. But eventually it was kind
of full circle, I ended up reading about things that
initially propelled me on the journey, and found answers
to questions I could not find easily within the TM org
and TM
--- sharelong60 sharelong60@ wrote:
Never saw Pushing Daisies but I loved her in West Wing as the feisty,
funny, sharp consultant who groomed that curmudgeony guy into taking over
the PR job. At that point in the series she was a much needed and very
welcome breath of fresh air.
--- Richard J. Williams punditster@ wrote:
Obviously, to qualify as a Pip or a MG you need to
be a minion;
Oh, I get it - minion, then Pip, then MG.
try and keep up Richard.
Yeah, well I'm trying to do the work, Bob.
My comment about
--- Duveyoung no_reply@... wrote:
We were all born in Kali Yuga, which means none of us had what it took to get
enlightened for the three previous yugas.
Yep, toads. All of us.
Seriously, is it any wonder that we ended up HOPPING as our spiritual
practice?
Edg
Good to see
--- bobpriced bobpriced@... wrote:
As I'm sure he knows, I'm a huge fan of Turq's posts; so I'm wondering
if anyone
would be kind enough to translate this one for me, particularly the last
paragraph.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhSjwU8gEsI
turquoiseb:
To rudely follow up on my own post, but cutting to
the chase...
--- richardatrwilliamsdotus punditster@... wrote:
If you had free will, you could levitate or leap over
tall buildings; you would have mind control and be
able to predict the future, so you could
--- Share Long sharelong60@... wrote:
Jason, it's this kind of insightful input that makes me glad you've returned
to the forum. I also appreciated your post about the 6 kinds of immune system
and complementary immune systems being the basis of sexual attraction. I had
not previously
turquoiseb
18 Michael Jackson
17 merudanda
16 Xenophaneros Anartaxius
16 Bob Price
14 Jason
13 sharelong60
13 emptybill
10 sparaig
10 salyavin808
10 card
9 Emily Reyn
7 bobpriced
7 azgrey
6
(and even as the Master of Irony - he's
sincere - that's the brilliance of it all, really). Jason, you need to pull
your head out of your ass on this and go get a cuppa something.
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 12:24 PM, Jason jedi_spock@... wrote:
I agree that he wrote sincerely. However, I doubt
--- authfriend authfriend@ wrote:
Robin claims enlightenment *in the past*, decades ago.
--- iranitea no_reply@ wrote:
Enlightenment is always *in the present*, never in the past.
--- authfriend authfriend@... wrote:
Robin does not claim to be enlightened in the
--- cardemaister@... wrote:
As per yoga-suutras, when one reaches enlightenment
(kaivalya), the guNa-s become
puruSaartha-shuunya. AFAIK, there's no force or power in
the universe that could reverse that process...
I think you nailed it Cardeboy. It's like asking a man to
go back
--- turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
snip
One wonders what the belief they all share IS that
causes them to color their own perceptions and
shape them such that the Barry Is Bad meme has
basically taken over their lives.
--- authfriend authfriend@... wrote:
One wonders what the
:
Jason, I concede to ignorance on the matter of enlightenment. Now, an
enlightenment experience is something else altogether in my mind. My
conscience had a pang (I'd like to call it a moment of enlightenment) on my
drive towards the ocean today (my life is like a milk run - I have so many
--- turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
snip
Uh-huh. Delusional then, when thinking that the Ayatollah Khomeini was
in Unity Consciousness (just like him) but so NOT delusional now, when
trying to blame all of this on intelligences and forces beyond his own
control and understanding.
---
--- turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
This article/research is not exactly a surprise, and not
even new. There have been similar studies in the past that
proved that when it comes to the question of Which comes
first, perception or belief?, the answer is pretty much
*always* Belief.
and understanding.
--- authfriend authfriend@ wrote:
For the record, Robin has repeatedly blamed his own character
flaws for the ability of these intelligences and forces he
speaks of to influence him. Barry carefully omits to mention
this.
--- Jason jedi_spock@ wrote:
You mean
of it all, really). Jason, you need to pull your head out of your
ass on this and go get a cuppa something.
I agree that he wrote sincerely. However, I doubt that he
was really in enlightenment or any higher state. Robin's
recount of those experiences simply doesn't tally with the
accounts
--- authfriend authfriend@... wrote:
The Core of `Mind and Cosmos'By THOMAS NAGEL
http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/author/thomas-nagel/
This is a brief statement of positions defended more fully in my book
Mind and Cosmos: Why the Materialist Neo-Darwinian Conception of
Nature Is
--- Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote:
Regarding Nagel, having just read the NYTimes article.
snip
We are on the threshold of a robotics revolution. Can a robot
be conscious?
--- authfriend authfriend@... wrote:
Is there something it is like to be a robot? Or would a
Maharishi failed to tell you that if the brain has serious
hardware problems, TM is practically useless. Other schools
have already acknowledged this.
http://www.youramazingbrain.org/brainchanges/braindamage.htm
http://www.youramazingbrain.org/brainchanges/braindamage.htm
--- Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote:
Well, it was originally all about Shemp, Lawson,
and Judy. Shemp is gone and Lawson hardly posts
at all, so it's all about Judy, or more to the
point, Barry's obsession with Judy and his need
to have her controlled.
--- Seraphita s3raphita@... wrote:
The existence of Area 51, the US airbase rumoured to house UFOs, along
with details of some of the strange activities that went on there have
been officially acknowledged in newly released CIA documents. I wonder
if they ever evaluated the TM-Sidhi
--- turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
On another spiritual forum, I recently got to witness a phenomenon I'd
seen so many times in the TMO that it made me laugh. A number of people
who study with a certain teacher were talking about that teachers new
knowledge, in the form of a
--- turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
...Wombat Consciousness. My suspicion is that within days you'd
have
had people claiming to be in WC,
--- card wrote:
ROFLOL!
--- turquoiseb wrote:
:-)
Here's one more
http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/faith.html
--- salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@ wrote:
It's interesting why there are so few female philosophers,
same reason there are so few top women chess players perhaps.
A simplistic view would be the old Mars/Venus thing. But I
think it's less a women are more touchy-feely than
--- Share Long sharelong60@ wrote:
I don't know, Buck. Can atheists really even be small minded?
I mean, to come to such a conclusion that there is no God,
one would, it seems to me, to have thought deeply about
such matters.
--- salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@
Hey Bhairitu, alex, I have fallen into a real shithole.
Windows 7 is butt ugly and it's interface is like shit. XP
had a much better user interface. It took me two whole weeks
to figure out how this fucking OS works.
The 'view thumbnail' feature is gone. It has only global
settings and
--- Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote:
who the heck was shempmcgurk?
--- Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@... wrote:
A right-wing coward who hid behind an anonymous ID in order to sling
invective at people. He made the mistake of trying to post a particularly
nasty, profanity
--- Share Long sharelong60@... wrote:
This morning I was coming out of the asana room of the women's Dome and
glimpsed a now familiar behooded figure headed for the bathroom. Without
thinking I made a mad dash and caught the stall door before she could close
it. I smiled and waved and
share. NT was a better OS but then
Microsoft marketing demanded it be backward compatible and ruined it.
Jason, I don't recommend the current version of Ubuntu because you'll
probably hate the Unity interface. But you can download different
versions of Ubuntu. I have Ubuntu Studio 12.04 LTS
There are basicaly two types of policies, 'pro-market
policies' and 'pro-business policies'
'Pro-market policies' enable those with merit and skills to
rise to the top. It leads to overall and alround growth and
development. It generates wealth for all. The entire economy
benefits from it.
Now, the way forward is a modified version of Keynes's
post-Second World War proposal
C. T. Kurien
In 1936 when the world was groaning under the disrupttion
caused by the Great Depression the influential Cambridge
University economist John Maynard Keynes published his
General Twheory
--- turquoiseb wrote:
The French obviously like lesbians better than they like
incomprehensibly hallucinogenic movies about violence
(Only God Forgives). It probably is a good film, but
I'd also suspect that the timing, coinciding with France
*finally* legalizing same-sex marriage, may
: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 3:47 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: BatGap Panel Discussion âââ‰â¬Å
John Hagelin, Ph.D., Igor Kufayev, and Mark McCooey. Moderated by Rick
Archer
--- Jason jedi_spock@ wrote:
It takes two
--- Jason jedi_spock@ wrote:
These kind of sexual relationships are a bit of a gray area.
How much interest you should show in other people's private
lives is a matter of debate.
As Barry pointed out, 'Groupie with standards', the
phenomenon exists in all fields and 'all
--- Share Long sharelong60@... wrote:
Jason, I liked your analogy and I think Judy asks a valid
question. What say you?
--- Jason jedi_spock@ wrote:
(snip)
Allow me to rephrase the topic.
Judy's thesis is this. There is a dark room. You are inside
it in darkness
The political-system should be accountable to the 'social
system'
It's the corporate-system that should be accountable to the
political-system, and not the other way around.
Right now things are upside-down. A potential dystopia in
the making.
A 'socialistic political system' will balance out
--- Share Long sharelong60@ wrote:
Salyavin, I still think all this has something to do with WHOLE brain
functioning. I still think either there's no brain that does this and or
science doesn't have instruments to measure such. I postulate that if
both of these happened, it
--- merudanda no_reply@ wrote:
..a sign a sign--sigh
Still searching, rotating, looking out; no means to tell the way.
So You drift with every wind, more helpless day by day.
Now , pondering,then pausing- opening up
a prompting, Look
above.
What yonder sky there, a wisp of
--- doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote:
Feeling crazy?
--- turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
You're the who has less than a handful of posts left
for the week; I think you'd be better served asking that
question of yourself.
You seem awfully compulsive and reactive for someone who
--- turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
I'm staying this week near the Bastille, which is interesting
tonight
because it's the scene of an enormous outdoor concert to celebrate
the
success of the Marriage pour tous movement, and the legalization of
same-sex marriage in France. A huge stage
On 05/20/2013 01:29 PM, Rick Archer wrote:
From: CNN Breaking News [mailto:BreakingNews@...]
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 3:04 PM
To: textbreakingnews@...
Subject: CNN Breaking News
A new CNN/ORC International poll shows that President Barack Obama remains
popular and
--- Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote:
Maharishi never authenticated other techniques as guaranteed to be
worthy -- TM being the only technique with 5,000 years backing it up;
whereas the others might be
impure-so-be-careful-of-these-seemingly-maybe-sorta-okay-other-technique\
s, and
--- Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
On 05/14/2013 10:25 AM, John wrote:
With the city on the verge of bankruptcy, the participation of Chinese
auto industry in the area may be a welcome development.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/chinese-creating-auto-niche-within-012304652.html
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@
wrote:
(snip)
Yup, and it's perfectly natural to
--- doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote:
The existence of which they have possibly only been told about.
You must have been a real sucker in Maharishi's and/or Lenz's group,
because you keep making up this story of people blindly believing what they
are told, as if you are trying to
--- salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@... wrote:
Yup, and it's perfectly natural to find something complex
and assume that it must have been created by something more
complex. This was Darwins genius as he showed it isn't the
case where biology is concerned.
--- authfriend
--- John jr_esq@ wrote:
MMY did not recommend the use of hypnosis since, IMO, it
promotes self-will and not the will of the unified field.
The unified field has a will? Far out.
--- turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
Isn't it just a *trip* that
On 05/14/2013 10:25 AM, John wrote:
With the city on the verge of bankruptcy, the participation of Chinese
auto industry in the area may be a welcome development.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/chinese-creating-auto-niche-within-012304652.html
--- Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
On 05/12/2013 09:58 AM, Alex Stanley wrote:
--- Jason jedi_spock@ wrote:
--- Ann awoelflebater@ wrote:
If I were in FF I would be sure to be there today - no lie.
--- Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote:
Ugh... I am in FF, and you couldn't pay
--- Ann awoelflebater@ wrote:
If I were in FF I would be sure to be there today - no lie.
--- Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote:
Ugh... I am in FF, and you couldn't pay me to go.
--- salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@ wrote:
Are you more of a steak and
All religions must be subservient to Nature. Any religion
that tries to supercede Nature becomes a cancer to society.
Most of the writings in these classical religions were
written with the intention of usurping political and social
power.
More research needs to be done on the switching of
--- salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@ wrote:
...in a science-savvy world, these religious sci-fi concepts
are to be expected. Believing that Marduk is an
extraterrestrial
is no stranger than believing in astrology or crystal healing.
--- Ann awoelflebater@ wrote:
I
Here again is one example of what kind of shortsighted
damage, a 'capitalistic political system' can do.
Capitalism which works so well for the 'economic system'
works badly for the 'political system'.
Eisenhower foresaw what was going to happen. These 'Narrow
vested interests' just can't
Rick Archer:
As Carl Sagan put it, had it not been for the
influence of Christianity sending us into the
Dark Ages, we would have put a man on the moon
a thousand years earlier.
--- Richard J. Williams richard@... wrote:
We could have colonized the moon a thousand years
--- John jr_esq@ wrote:
Mike,
There's a lot of implications with the galaxies exceeding the speed of
light. One of them is the question of time dilation. That means that time
will be going backwards for those galaxies that are traveling beyond the
speed of light.
I
--- Susan wayback71@ wrote:
Glad you gave the post number.
If I were Judy, All that I would have said, (instread of all
that she had said on this topic past one year), with a
single post.
Hey Share, the term 'psychological rape is too harsh. You
could have used a milder word. Please
--- authfriend authfriend@ wrote:
That's my 50th. I'll be back this evening.
--- turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
With *another* 50 posts vilifying Share, Curtis, Steve,
and your other enemies? Wow, what a surprise.
Do you even *realize* that this is what you did this
--- Share Long sharelong60@ wrote:
hey salyavin, according to the Catholic Church of my youth, once a person
is baptised they have what is called, an indelible mark on the soul showing
that. If I remember correctly, the other sacraments that leave indelible
marks are
--- turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
Today is a holiday in France and, to tell the truth, most of the
Northern Hemisphere. The only exception seems to be the United States,
which abandoned the holiday during the Cold War. They were fearful that
if they celebrated it they'd be called Commies
--- Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
Dear FFL, That dredged up old copy is such a piece of demoralizing and
terrifying propaganda whether it is true or not. In fact I feel it is
hateful to be posting crap like that here while like the phoenix the TM
movement is rising again teaching
--- Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote:
Damn you are not patient are you Curtis baby? You are sounding as desperate
and demanding attention as the bumbling retard Steve.
Let me get this right - I, Curtis will go any lengths to defend artistic
expressions of gang rape,
Features » Sunday Magazine
Sir Chuck Norris
ANANTHA NARAYAN
It all began in the summer of 2005, when Ian Spector invited
people to make up their own fun facts about Chuck Norris for
a humour section in his website. Overnight the satirical
factoids became e-mail forwards and thus was born
Now listen Jimmy boy, Maharishi himself was a parrot. Much
of what he taught was rehashed from Brahmananda saraswati,
Yogananda, Lakshman Joo and so on.
So, don't compare him with a pathbreaking pioneer like
Einstein. Besides, Einstein had no obligation to practice
celibacy.
If the
On Behalf Of John
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 2:07 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Space Ship Two
If Hawking has any sway in world politics, this statement may help NASA get
some funding for its Mars program which would include the human
The much abused goddess of plenty
By Yogi Ashwini
17th March 2013 12:00 AM
Back in 1993, the spread of the mad cow disease took a toll
of many across the globe. As a result, many stopped
consuming beef products. However, not eating beef does not
guarantee an escape from the disease and
Have you ever had anything useful to say here in this forum,
other than act like a fuking, puking, bitching cheerleader.
The real 'E' is so elusive that most of the pretend E's
don't even have a clue to whats going on inside them.
--- Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote:
An awesome
--- authfriend authfriend@ wrote:
We now have another chance to see Curtis demonstrate
how little integrity he has.
He will not correct Barry's deliberate misrepresentation
in this post of the exchange he was having with me.
And that's really all you need to know about
I wonder in what way people with 'no TM background' fit in
here? This is supposed to be a forum for people with
atleast some TM background.
--- Share Long sharelong60@... wrote:
Ravi said: Awesome dear Share...See the magic Ravi weaves. Share replies:
Ravi, your humbleness
takes my
--- Emily Reyn wrote:
A saw a healer, who I didn't realize was Hindu-based at the time
and told me that if I didn't do my spiritual work, I'd reincarnate
as a lower life form. I asked her for an example - she said
cat. I said, I'm O.K. with that.
--- Alex Stanley wrote:
--- card wrote:
http://www.barenakedislam.com/2012/01/18/sweden-20-muslim-invaders-gang-rape-11-year-old-swedish-girl-in-public-bathhouse/
Police didn't seem very concerned, and said, The
(bathhouse) is a place where temptations are great. Swedish
taxpayers spend $150,000 per year, per
Considering the huge crop of goofballs that the TM-org has
spawned, starting from your master Robin Carlsen, Bevan
Morris and so on, any sane rational observer would balk.
Buck dosen't sound any worse than them.
--- Ann wrote:
Funny, but I think Buck and his attitudes and platitudes
(-:
From: Jason
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 5:58 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] India needs early marriage system or dating system?
Home Opinion
We want to have the best of two worlds
By V P Thomson Piravom , 28th December 2012 11:47 PM
Muvattupuzha, our taluk's capital
Hey Share, there are no proper documented scientific
evidence that alternative therapies work. There are no
standardized parameters regarding herbal medicines, besides
a lot of herbal medicines contain toxins that damage kidneys
if used for too long a period of time.
However, there are a
Home Opinion
We want to have the best of two worlds
By V P Thomson Piravom , 28th December 2012 11:47 PM
Muvattupuzha, our taluk's capital town, witnessed a bizarre
incident a few months ago. A 18-year-old girl was forcibly
hugged and kissed by a young man in broad daylight on the
public
--- turquoiseb wrote:
...all studies would read something like this:
http://imgur.com/a/x77kL
When a company funds pharmaceutical research, the reseachers
slightly slant their research a bit in favor of the company.
It happens unconsciously on a subtle level.
Something similar
--- Bhairitu wrote:
From yesterday we learned that 2012 in the US was 1 degree warmer than
usual and a temperature rise that shocked climatologists. I think we're
doomed. Americans don't want to give up their luxurious lifestyle (even
though fewer and fewer are enjoying it)
--- card wrote:
Anyone know whether the Bharat gang-rapists were:
a. Hindus
b. Muslims
c. Buddhists
d. Jains
e. Sikhs
f. mixed
g. none of those?
Hey Carde, it's five hindus and one muslim.
The point is all of us in this country (india), every single
one of us
--- salyavin808 wrote:
Go on then, give us a concept of god that fits in with what Hawking
is saying here. Or can you explain what more recent discoveries
means, some sort of Hagelin-ish idea?
--- seekliberation wrote:
From everything i've read, and everything i've listened
--- Duveyoung wrote:
Quote of Maharishi about Arabs -- don't know if true: First time on
two feet.
--- salyavin808 wrote:
Here's another: desert's follow Islam round the world
--- nablusoss1008 wrote:
Which ofcourse is true. All you have
Europe becomes a desert.
--- Jason wrote:
The earth's orbit changes it's shape every 100,000 years and
it's variations causes ice ages. It's called Milankovitch
cycle.
The earth's axis also oscillates back and forth from 22.1
and 24.5 degrees on a 41,000-year cycle
The death of innocence in India
Express News Service - NEW DELHI
30th December 2012 10:12 AM
We call her Mother India. Yet, a survey conducted by
'Thomson Reuters' Trust' reveals that India is at par with
Afghanistan, Congo and Somalia as one of the world's most
dangerous places
Lip sync sympathy amidst juke box governance
By Shankkar Aiyar
29th December 2012 11:30 PM
On Saturday, India was outraged again. Its political leaders
confessed they were ashamed. Indians were told by its
political class that the entire country should hang its head
in shame. True.
ought to be embarrassed in case someone else turns
up.
--- Jason jedi_spock@ wrote:
We know that the universe is not infinite because if the
universe is infinite, there will be an infinite number of
stars in the sky.
The radiation would be so
--- Share Long sharelong60@ wrote:
I'm not really saying EVERYWHERE. I'm simply saying that logically, in an
infinite universe, how likely is it that intelligent life would occur in
only one location? Logically it seems that there would be intelligent life
in at least ONE other
I think he is talking about certain other people Share and
not himself.
On an impersonal level, he is right.
--- Share Long sharelong60@... wrote:
yoohoo! Weren't you praying yesterday that the Robin topics would
disappear?! I guess you were really praying that you could have the last
--- emptybill emptybill@... wrote:
When the first nuke erupts in Israel (even a small tactical one), what
should be our response?
When the first nuke detonates in America what should we do? And to whom?
Should we just roll over and say we can't know with certainty who
placed in a
Good evening, my good sir. ( I raise my hat )
Glad to see you here again. ( I place my hat back on my
head)
Ask Robin when the student is ready. He knows it better that
anyone else.
--- rwr dick.richardson@... wrote:
When the student is ready?
[ Dedem.
What do you
--- Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote:
That is it. But it is not just Fairfield. The essence of life is on the
surface anywhere. We were so distracted and so caught up in our thoughts that
the obvious escaped us. And we spend countless years searching for what is
right
--- Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote:
That is it. But it is not just Fairfield. The essence of life is on the
surface anywhere. We were so distracted and so caught up in our thoughts that
the obvious escaped us. And we spend countless years searching for what is
right
--- wgm4u no_reply@ wrote:
And all of the Mexicans and blacks on board, Gee, a great NEW America! WOW!
We all know Whites are racists!
Damn them, and damn small and Big business, nothing but evil!!
YEsMMY's goal of damn democracy realized! Yippee!
--- awoelflebater
Although I have experienced the so-called field effect
you are speaking of, I am no longer convinced that at its
heart it is anything more than projection, expectation,
and the placebo effect.
Buck:
This spiritual 'field effect'...
--- Richard J. Williams richard@...
Muhammad established his authority through intrigue,
manoeuvring, assassinations, wars.
There is clear historical evidence that Muhammad established
his authority through intrigue, manoeuvring, assassinations,
wars, and made monetary gain through caravan raids, mainly
on the Jewish
--- emptybill emptybill@ wrote:
Heh � I'm thinking about starting my own group of devotees.
However, I don't want them thinking I'm just exploiting them
for my own satisfaction -- you know, for all the same old
stuff. - money, babes and ego adoration.
Also � forget
--- seventhray1 lurkernomore20002000@ wrote:
I like this. And I don't mean this to be demeaning to Robin, but I
think it's cool that we have, here in our midst, a real life, western
cult leader personality. I mean on the scale of celebrity, he didn't
have a big impact, but he did
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