On Jan 17, 2012, at 11:25 AM, turquoiseb wrote:
Good post, Curtis. The one point you left out is that
RWC is no more original in his denunciations of Vaj than
he is about anything else. The guy seems *incapable* of
having an original idea; everything he's saying about
Vaj came directly from
Personal authenticity is composed of more than talking in the same
conceptual language.
Branding is just a word and means nothing more than an informal but
confirmed consensus among posters that someone lacks intellectual
integrity.
It happens through a preponderance of interactions with
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
Vaj: Well, lets keep in mind, none of them's actually met you, let alone
spent some considerable time around you...on stage or in audience...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote:
On Jan 17, 2012, at 2:25 AM, maskedzebra wrote:
RESPONSE: No, Vaj, the only possible response here should have been: Robin,
you are wrong. I *have* met you. I know you. And you will have to take back
these words.
Vaj: That
On Jan 17, 2012, at 8:41 AM, maskedzebra wrote:
Same goes for the play I wrote and mounted. You either saw the play
or were a cast member, or you didn't see the play and did not
appear on stage.
Those who profess to believe in your testimony have to work a lot
harder to make the case
Hi Robin, As a long term point of perspective, I have been reading valve
job's posts here for about six years, both on FFL and a forum where he used to
post but was kicked off for revealing personal info (mine).
These claims of his to be a TM teacher and now having met you previously, are
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@... wrote:
Beats me, the whole damn thing, Vaj. You're intelligent, you're witty, you're
knowledgable, you have a life, why dress up and pretend to play house?
That is part of the reason I think the whole Vaj is a fraud schtick lacks
On Jan 17, 2012, at 10:17 AM, futur.musik wrote:
These claims of his to be a TM teacher and now having met you
previously, are fairly recent. He wouldn't have dared make them to
the group that booted him - It is a small knowledgeable group and
they would have called BS on him immediately.
RESPONSE: This response of yours, Vaj, reminds me of what the antithesis would
be of Seth Rogan's first words at the Golden Globe Awards when he stepped out
with his co-presenter Kate Beckinsale to announce the nominees for Best Actress
in a Film, Musical or Comedy.
--- In
Ha-ha! That was awesome
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@... wrote:
RESPONSE: This response of yours, Vaj, reminds me of what the antithesis
would be of Seth Rogan's first words at the Golden Globe Awards when he
stepped out with his co-presenter Kate
Just so I understand you clearly, you are saying that a person who gave you a
hard time, had no integrity or knowledge, about *anything* apparently, because
they took their own life. Because they committed suicide, that nullifies
anything they said or contributed in your direction, at least.
On Jan 17, 2012, at 10:59 AM, maskedzebra wrote:
RESPONSE: This response of yours, Vaj, reminds me of what the
antithesis would be of Seth Rogan's first words at the Golden Globe
Awards when he stepped out with his co-presenter Kate Beckinsale to
announce the nominees for Best Actress in
Good post, Curtis. The one point you left out is that
RWC is no more original in his denunciations of Vaj than
he is about anything else. The guy seems *incapable* of
having an original idea; everything he's saying about
Vaj came directly from Judy, or her words filtered
through Jim or Ravi or
Yes I agree about the insider's perspective in jokes as being probably the most
internally compelling affinity with another veteran in the we represent
supreme knowledge war.
I can't share your total denunciation of Robin since I did share a bunch of
great posts with him before he was taken
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@...
wrote:
Not getting into the whole Vaj-Robin thing since I have zero
firsthand knowledge of any of it. But:
snip
Why people don't believe Vaj was a TM teacher or even a TMer:
He has said things that seemed to some
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote:
On Jan 17, 2012, at 11:25 AM, turquoiseb wrote:
Good post, Curtis. The one point you left out is that
RWC is no more original in his denunciations of Vaj than
he is about anything else. The guy seems *incapable* of
In my short time on this forum, I have never felt Vaj was a TM meditator, so
perhaps I have missed something. I agree that he makes valid points worth
thinking about. I am not familiar with what must be the material Barry refers
to in thinking Vaj is a TM meditator, or at least has been close
On Jan 17, 2012, at 12:08 PM, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote:
In my short time on this forum, I have never felt Vaj was a TM
meditator, so perhaps I have missed something. I agree that he
makes valid points worth thinking about. I am not familiar with
what must be the material Barry refers
It goes deeper than that. When I first joined FFL about 5 or 6 years ago, you
never spoke about TM as someone who had even done it. Your big thing at the
time was promoting Buddhist practices. It is much more recent, about the last
two years, that you have tried to convince people that you
On Jan 17, 2012, at 12:45 PM, futur.musik wrote:
It goes deeper than that. When I first joined FFL about 5 or 6
years ago, you never spoke about TM as someone who had even done
it. Your big thing at the time was promoting Buddhist practices. It
is much more recent, about the last two
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote:
On Jan 17, 2012, at 12:45 PM, futur.musik wrote:
It goes deeper than that. When I first joined FFL about 5 or 6
years ago, you never spoke about TM as someone who had even done
it. Your big thing at the time was
For what it's worth, a good friend of mine told me that Robin, SCREAMING ALOUD
AT HER, slapped her in the face in front of the audience -- trying to get the
demons out of her. That was all I needed to know about Robin. All his
writings are for shit if he isn't willing to own up to the fact
RESPONSE: My entire argument rests on this single piece of evidence. Because it
is Classic Vaj. You want to know how seriously and sincerely Vaj is dedicated
to his testimony about his TM, Maharishi, and Robin past? Study this. It is a
microcosm of everything he has ever said in rebuttal to my
On Jan 17, 2012, at 1:04 PM, futur.musik wrote:
So that leaves you solely the option of talking as a false
authority about TM and Maharishi. Yeah, I see your point.
No, as someone who practiced TM/TMSP and as someone familiar with the
foibles of Mahesh Yogi, I can comment as I please,
RESPONSE: Someone was, from behind a curtain, hit with a book during one
seminar. But this was the impetuous and rashand unpreventableact of a single
person who came up on the stage without warning, and suddenly did the deed
which precipitated a lawsuit. The individual so struck withdrew her
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote:
On Jan 17, 2012, at 12:08 PM, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote:
In my short time on this forum, I have never felt Vaj was a TM
meditator, so perhaps I have missed something. I agree that he
makes valid points worth thinking
On Jan 17, 2012, at 1:40 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
This is projected demonization at its worst.
How dare you summarize the World Teacher Seminar in one sentence!
There was the drama, the stage...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@...
wrote:
... I am always up for a discussion where I am the guy
who tells you what is in my mind and you are the guy who
represents your own. Is that really too much to ask in
a dialogue here?
Seemingly, yes.
On 01/17/2012 10:16 AM, Duveyoung wrote:
For what it's worth, a good friend of mine told me that Robin, SCREAMING
ALOUD AT HER, slapped her in the face in front of the audience -- trying to
get the demons out of her. That was all I needed to know about Robin. All
his writings are for shit
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@...
wrote:
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I agree that Judy has set the agenda for this angle and I
have to give credit for her forceful personality that so
many have taken up this perspective. (And yes I know it
is possible that everyone just
How about something more than just another one of your unsubstantiated
claims?
Where did you learn TM/TMSP?
What were the dates and places of initiation?
Who were your TM/TMSP course teachers?
You should take these questions seriously.
You are perilously close to being branded on FFL as a
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@... wrote:
How about something more than just another one of your unsubstantiated
claims?
Where did you learn TM/TMSP?
What were the dates and places of initiation?
Who were your TM/TMSP course teachers?
You should take these
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, futur.musik futur.musik@... wrote:
What a week on FFL Robin, your posts as always sing a dynamic tune of coherent
reality. I have read each one enjoyably, happily traveling along to wherever
they lead, knowing that I will never be led astray logically.
On Jan 16, 2012, at 6:12 PM, maskedzebra wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, futur.musik futur.musik@... wrote:
What a week on FFL – Robin, your posts as always sing a dynamic tune of
coherent
reality. I have read each one enjoyably, happily traveling along to wherever
they
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote:
Vaj: Well, lets keep in mind, none of them's actually met you, let alone spent
some considerable time around you...on stage or in audience...
Response: Nor have you, Vaj. Your eyes have never met my own. You have never
been in
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, futur.musik futur.musik@ wrote:
What a week on FFL Robin, your posts as always sing a dynamic tune of
coherent
reality. I have read each one enjoyably, happily traveling
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, futur.musik futur.musik@... wrote:
Hi, yeah I'd be happy to talk about celestial sight! As for whatshisface, no
worries, I am done. This isn't some master tirade. I meant what I said and I
take it seriously. It wasn't a get him post at all. But I will
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote:
You could be a great healer for many people today if you wanted to. Will be
interesting to see if you go in that direction :-)
Like, Braco.
See Braco.net
http://www.braco.net/live-streaming
Musik, you should come visit Fairfield.
You know, spiritually sometimes people just can't do it themselves and need
some help. Spiritual help like a darshan from Master John Douglas, or a Mother
Meera touch with her hands and gaze. A hug from a spiritual saint. A beam or
a touch to set
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, futur.musik futur.musik@ wrote:
Hi, yeah I'd be happy to talk about celestial sight! As for whatshisface,
no worries, I am done. This isn't some master tirade. I meant what
Hi Buck, surely you are joking. You are in the largest continuous group of
meditators in the country. Besides once the fountainhead of bliss explodes
through your seventh chakra, you will have more than enough to contend with.
Jai Guru Dev!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck
I hope a lot of people sign up cause that is one expensive haircut!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote:
You could be a great healer for many people today if you wanted to. Will be
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:
Musik, you should come visit Fairfield.
You know, spiritually sometimes people just can't do it themselves and need
some help. Spiritual help like a darshan from Master John Douglas, or a
Mother Meera touch with her
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, futur.musik futur.musik@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, futur.musik futur.musik@ wrote:
Hi, yeah I'd be happy to talk about celestial sight! As for
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, futur.musik futur.musik@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, futur.musik
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, futur.musik futur.musik@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, futur.musik futur.musik@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008
Jim,
I like you. I really do. And I especially enjoyed what you said last
week about how to slightly alter your perception to see the celestial
side of things. I hope you will elaborate on that some. But I must
say, that your comments here remind me of what you sometimes hear from
Obama
Hi, yeah I'd be happy to talk about celestial sight! As for whatshisface, no
worries, I am done. This isn't some master tirade. I meant what I said and I
take it seriously. It wasn't a get him post at all. But I will let time tell
that tale as it unfolds.
Regarding celestial sight, I guess I
Oh, okay. Thanks for the clarification. Just a topic I have always
been interested in.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, futur.musik futur.musik@...
wrote:
Hi, yeah I'd be happy to talk about celestial sight! As for
whatshisface, no worries, I am done. This isn't some master tirade. I
Thank you for your concern. Please do not feel sorry for me.
I think I may have deserved it. Although is was very rude and could have harmed
some other type of person for what the Turq had posted, if I was someone else.
I actually was jerking his beef stick and I believe he knew it, so he jerked
his beef stick, your neck chain? I'll drop it if you will. :-)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@... wrote:
Thank you for your concern. Please do not feel sorry for me.
I think I may have deserved it. Although is was very rude and could have
harmed some other type of
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