Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did'tn the mayor evacuate the poor with these NO ...
In a message dated 9/4/05 10:32:58 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't think it would have been a matter of arresting people who refused to > leave, but they could have announced emergency evacuation plans on Radio and > TV starting Friday night and started picking up those that WANTED to leave > at designated places and take them to shelters north and west of the city. All > hey needed to do was get them out of NO and the path of the Katrina. > Governor Blanco could have issued orders to open all public buildings including > schools for evacuees. They had from Friday evening till Sunday morning at 6 am to > move as many as wanted to go. We saw no such effort.I don't know if such effort was madeand neither do you. How couldyou? If no such effort were made , would you agree it was a mistake? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Iowa community credit union Transcendental meditation Maharishi university Best of iowa community credit union Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did'tn the mayor evacuate the poor with these NO ...
In a message dated 9/4/05 10:38:12 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > They were school buses..ANYONE can drive them.> > Are you a school bus driver? Doesn't exactly take a rocket scientist to drive a school bus. There are lots of stories of young people breaking into School bus depots and stealing them so they could evacuate. Several came to Houston filling them with whoever wanted to come with them. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why did'tn the mayor evacuate the poor with these NO ...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In a message dated 9/4/05 10:32:58 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > I don't think it would have been a matter of arresting people who > refused to > > leave, but they could have announced emergency evacuation plans on > Radio and > > TV starting Friday night and started picking up those that WANTED > to leave > > at designated places and take them to shelters north and west of > the city. All > > hey needed to do was get them out of NO and the path of the > Katrina. > > Governor Blanco could have issued orders to open all public > buildings including > > schools for evacuees. They had from Friday evening till Sunday > morning at 6 am to > > move as many as wanted to go. We saw no such effort. > > I don't know if such effort was madeand neither do you. How couldyou? > > > > > If no such effort were made , would you agree it was a mistake? Assuming that it was possible to do what you said... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Movment Land for sale- asking $108 million
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/city/lewisville/stories/DN-masterplan_04wes.ART0.North.Edition2.4257a93.html Small city has a big vision for its future The Colony: Master plan calls for a retail, entertainment mecca 12:00 AM CDT on Sunday, September 4, 2005 By KEVIN KRAUSE / The Dallas Morning News The Colony sits between Frisco's booming retail stores and Lewisville's highly developed Interstate 35E corridor. As a result, the city of about 36,450 people on the southeastern shores of Lewisville Lake has missed out on potential development. But city officials have big plans, and they're carving out an identity of their own. Officials are taking advantage of continuing improvements to State Highway 121 to try to bring in large family-oriented entertainment and recreation venues that would attract visitors from across the region. In other words, they want The Colony to be a destination city. "We're trying to take hold of our destiny," Mayor John Dillard said. "We want to have our own image and develop our own identity." He said the city has been criticized for not using zoning rules to plan for the future. The 121 Corridor Master Plan is a vision for how the city wants land along the state highway to be developed. It envisions a "thriving, successful, destination-oriented corridor," according to the plan, which a city consultant worked on. Council member Scott Ward said he sees it as a "weekend draw." "I think it'll give developers some possibilities. It'll show them we're serious," he said. About 67 percent of property facing Highway 121 in the city is undeveloped. But that will change. The state is widening the highway and converting it to a toll road. Construction is expected to be complete by late 2007 or early 2008. City officials plan to create an entertainment and recreational zoning district on about 1,043 acres on the north and south sides of Highway 121. The idea is to build on features such as the city's more than 20 parks and two golf courses, its Five Star sports complex and the Hawaiian Falls Water Park. The city's proximity to Lewisville Lake also plays a role, officials said. Although the focus is on entertainment and recreation, other desirable uses include office, retail, hotels, restaurants, corporate headquarters, theaters and other cultural developments, according to the master plan "something that will bring us jobs and tax base," Mr. Dillard said. Two tracts the city identified as ideal for entertainment or recreation uses are the 300-acre Maharishi Global Development Fund land south of Highway 121 and east of Plano Parkway and about 109 acres owned by Trammell Crow west of Main Street. In coming months, city officials will consider zoning changes to implement the plan. Another possibility listed in the master plan is to create a public improvement district that would raise money for improvements with assessments. Mr. Dillard said the zoning changes would take time. Once the plan is in place, the city will begin talking to the landowners, he said. Donna Bateman, director of development services, said the corridor includes about 60 landowners. She said officials have spoken to "a couple of individuals" but have received no development applications. Development of the corridor has been slow, despite many attempts by the city to attract recreation and entertainment venues. "It's been discussed as long as I can remember," Mr. Dillard said. The Maharishi fund bought its land in 2000 and announced plans to build the world's tallest skyscraper in The Colony. When those plans fell through, the company wanted to build a large mixed-use retail center instead. At the time, the company was involved in a legal fight with the state over the value of 21 acres the state needed to widen Highway 121 for the toll road. The fund ended up receiving $14 million for the right of way in a settlement. Shortly after, in early 2003, the company put the land up for sale for $108 million. The group planned to use proceeds from the sale to build the first 108 of 200 planned peace palaces in the U.S.. The land has sat vacant ever since. The fund is part of a global empire led by the Indian mystic Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, who pioneered Transcendental Meditation in the 1960s. Since then, his companies have amassed a real estate portfolio with holdings around the world. E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. http://store.yahoo.com/redcross-donate3/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did'tn the mayor evacuate the poor with these NO ...
In a message dated 9/4/05 10:52:28 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Stretch yourself, MDixon and Shemp. There aretwo major, obvious exceptions to the rule thatANYONE can drive the buses.I'll give you one for free: Only folks who knowhow to drive can drive the buses.Now, what's the second one? Um ya have to be licensed? Well a good emergency plan would have had designated drivers planned for with specific routes and pick up points and designated destinations for drop off at designated shelter out side the city and flood plane. It doesn't take anymore resources than what they already had. Just some forethought and planning. If the planning was too much for the mayors office, the governors office should have worked on a plan with the city. There are numerous school districts that surround the city of NO and any of their buses could have been brought in at the order of the governor to assist. Again no extra resources, just using the ones available and having a plan. Now if the President was supposed to have foreseen the breaking of the levees so should the governor and the mayor and had the city evacuated. Had you listened to Michael Chertoff clearly on Meet the Press, all of the reports about what would happen if the levees broke said "once they broke it would be too late. Thousands would die. Evacuation needed to occur BEFORE they broke". He also stated clearly that by law it is the responsibility of the state and local governments to have and execute evacuation plans in the event of disasters. Had this been done, much more attention could have been put on getting the people out of the Dome more quickly by local authorities and rescue teams. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Iowa community credit union Transcendental meditation Maharishi university Best of iowa community credit union Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] To set The Beatles' TM record straight
The Beatles, the four most famous pop musicians endorsed TM and in early 1968 were spending time in India with the Maharishi to get longer practice and deeper understanding of meditation. The course was drawing to an end and The Beatles were planning a concert in Delhi, alongside the Beachboys and others. Apple, their production company were planning to make a movie about TM, profiling the Maharishi and his guru. All of which would have received global attention. But attention shifted as some at the ashram entertained doubts about the Maharishi himself. Rumour had it that he had shown sexual interest in one or more of the course participants (doesn't really matter who). John, George and their entourage made a hasty exit, and ditched the plans for the concert and the film. What did the Maharishi do? As they trailed out of the ashram he sat in his grass hut and whined! Did he call later and try and sort things out with his 'disciples'? Did he heck? So let's not blame John Lennon, Mia Farrow or anyone else but the man who let pride stand in the way of the greatest publicity the Spiritual Regeneration Movement could ever have had. We all know his name by now, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. Then as now the topic was the Maharishi and not the meditation. Perhaps one day people will be able to separate the two and realise that whilst the meditation technique works, the reputation of the Maharishi will probably always be in question. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did'tn the mayor evacuate the poor with these NO ...
In a message dated 9/4/05 11:18:03 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: "Mayfield said the strength of the storm and the potential disaster it could bring were made clear during both the briefings and in formal advisories, which warned of a storm surge capable of overtopping levees in New Orleans and winds strong enough to blow out windows of high-rise buildings," the paper reported. "He said the briefings included information on expected wind speed, storm surge, rainfall and the potential for tornados to accompany the storm as it came ashore."We were briefing them way before landfall," Mayfield said. "It's not like this was a surprise. We had in the advisories that the levee could be topped."Chertoff told reporters Saturday that government officials had not expected the damaging combination of a powerful hurricane levee breaches that flooded New Orleans. Judy , there are some key words here. Mayfield uses the word topped when describing what could happen with the levees. He said nothing about breaching. I'm sure you know the difference. Topping is water spilling over the top, which the pumps most likely could have handled. Breaching is the levee breaking and giving way which is what happened, the pumps could not function at that point. Even the Army Corp of Engineers said they levees should have been strong enough not to breach but they did anticipate they could be topped or have spill over if a hurricane exceeded a category 3. That's why you have pumps.That is also why I'm very interested in this report about a barge damaging the levees.< As for the administration trying to politicize or lay blame. I have heard Bush from day one say he expected his people to not get involved in that, but stay focused on the job. However the media keeps raising the issue "why didn't FEMA evacuate the city when they knew the levees could breach". The response is a matter of fact that the law states that it is the responsibility of the state and local governments to do that , not FEMA. The Media is trying , knowingly or not, to blame the administration for what the State and City should have done in the first place. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Iowa community credit union Transcendental meditation Maharishi university Best of iowa community credit union Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Chavez Wants To Help'/'Bush Says No!'
In a message dated 9/5/05 12:49:11 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Can't have the country that postures as the saviorof the world gettin' any help from anybody, can we? Actually we ARE receiving help from a lot of countries. I found it very touching that the people of Sri Lanka have donated 25,000 dollars. Some is just not needed or practical. What do we need a Venezuelan medical ship for? We have our own and plenty of our own doctors and medical personal and they are already here. What do we need with Cuban doctors, we have plenty of our own and they speak English. Do we want drugs coming in from foreign countries? The FDA would freak! And could you imagine the law suits if somebody were given a foreign drug that caused problems? A lot of the aid offered, even by our allies was not needed because we already have it here and in position. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Iowa community credit union Transcendental meditation Maharishi university Best of iowa community credit union Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did'tn the mayor evacuate the poor with these NO ...
In a message dated 9/5/05 1:04:19 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have been in the past, for special events.Shemp's right on this one in many states, whereonly a regular driver's license (not a commerciallicense) is required to drive a school bus. Thatdoesn't have anything to do with anything in thissituation, because by the time the need to evacuate hundreds of thousands of people becameevident, the roads were already impassable becauseof the storm.Evacuation of the poor wasn't planned for, so itdidn't happen. That's not good. Trying to helpthem once they were trapped *obviously* wasn'tplanned for. That's not good. Lots of "not good"to spread around here. That was the whole idea behind the buses. They could have been used to evacuate anybody that wanted out but had no transportation and it could have started at least Saturday morning, before the hurricane hit. Friday night evacuation plans could have been broadcast on TV and the radio and all through out Saturday. They had till Sunday morning to get the job done. And as I said earlier with the cooperation of the governors office they could have had all the surrounding school districts helping. All it took was some forethought and planning in advance. The only cost would have been overtime pay for the bus drivers. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Iowa community credit union Transcendental meditation Maharishi university Best of iowa community credit union Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand Paul Mason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The Beatles, the four most famous pop musicians endorsed TM and in > early 1968 were spending time in India with the Maharishi to get > longer practice and deeper understanding of meditation. The course > was drawing to an end and The Beatles were planning a concert in > Delhi, alongside the Beachboys and others. Apple, their production > company were planning to make a movie about TM, profiling the > Maharishi and his guru. All of which would have received global > attention. > > But attention shifted as some at the ashram entertained doubts about > the Maharishi himself. Rumour had it that he had shown sexual > interest in one or more of the course participants (doesn't really > matter who). John, George and their entourage made a hasty exit, and > ditched the plans for the concert and the film. What did the > Maharishi do? As they trailed out of the ashram he sat in his grass > hut and whined! Did he call later and try and sort things out with > his 'disciples'? Did he heck? So let's not blame John Lennon, Mia > Farrow or anyone else but the man who let pride stand in the way of > the greatest publicity the Spiritual Regeneration Movement could ever > have had. We all know his name by now, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. > > Then as now the topic was the Maharishi and not the meditation. > Perhaps one day people will be able to separate the two and realise > that whilst the meditation technique works, the reputation of the > Maharishi will probably always be in question. I thought you said you were a neutral observer where MMY is concerned... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Chavez Wants To Help'/'Bush Says No!'
In a message dated 9/5/05 1:37:08 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't understand what the reason could possibly be why Canada isn't allowed to help...it is a well established tradition between the two countries that each helps the other out during disasters of this kind. Shemp I think what you are seeing is many countries are offering help but the help they offer may not be practical or needed. I'm sure the administration thanks them politely. However it makes great press to say "Bush Refuses help ". A lot of the help Is being accepted. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Movment Land for sale- asking $108 million
Not immediately related to this article, but just as followup, I have received exactly zero response to my several email requests for the address, either mailing or phyiscal, for the supposed "Paris branch" of Global Reconstruction, Inc., or whatever it calls itself. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I thought you said you were a neutral observer where MMY is > concerned... Firstly, I certainly wouldn't have described myself in that way. Secondly, being unbiased does not mean that one is disallowed from demonstrating that MMY alone is responsible for the state of his own dodgey reputation. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand Paul Mason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I thought you said you were a neutral observer where MMY is > > concerned... > > Firstly, I certainly wouldn't have described myself in that way. > Secondly, being unbiased does not mean that one is disallowed from > demonstrating that MMY alone is responsible for the state of his own > dodgey reputation. If you were unbiased, why would you care? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand Paul Mason" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > I thought you said you were a neutral observer where MMY is > > > concerned... > > > > Firstly, I certainly wouldn't have described myself in that way. > > Secondly, being unbiased does not mean that one is disallowed from > > demonstrating that MMY alone is responsible for the state of his > > own dodgey reputation. > > If you were unbiased, why would you care? One might ask, "Why does what Paul believes about MMY affect you in any way? Why do YOU care?" Seems to me that you're interested in finding a way to demonize as "biased" someone who simply believes differently than you do about Maharishi. Why? What do you gain from this? Does it help to make your beliefs stronger? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Housing for the Refugees?
Title: Housing for the Refugees? I think I heard that here in Fairfield there are 400 houses on the market. I don’t know how many apartments for rent. I’m going to check. I imagine that around the entire country there are more than enough empty houses and apartments to accommodate all the Katrina refugees. Seems to me some sort of government funding should be set up to compensate the owners and landlords of these houses and apartments, and people should be moved from the Astrodome and church basements. Any thoughts on this idea? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Iowa community credit union Transcendental meditation Maharishi university Best of iowa community credit union Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] NO's not the only place having problems with drinking water
If you think George W. Bush has credibility problems after his administration's bungling attempts to get safe drinking water to the Katrina disaster area, try being an executive of Coca- Cola in Britain right about now. The two groups of bunglers should get together and solve both their problems at once by shipping the bottled water to New Orleans. It would help Coke get rid of its unsellable product, and supplying carcinogen-filled water to the survivors would be right in line with other administration policies so far, like leaving them there to die in the first place... Things get worse with Coke Bottled tap water withdrawn after cancer scare Felicity Lawrence, consumer affairs correspondent Saturday March 20, 2004 The Guardian First, Coca-Cola's new brand of "pure" bottled water, Dasani, was revealed earlier this month to be tap water taken from the mains. Then it emerged that what the firm described as its "highly sophisticated purification process", based on Nasa spacecraft technology, was in fact reverse osmosis used in many modest domestic water purification units. Yesterday, just when executives in charge of a £7m marketing push for the product must have felt it could get no worse, it did precisely that. The entire UK supply of Dasani was pulled off the shelves because it has been contaminated with bromate, a cancer-causing chemical. So now the full scale of Coke's PR disaster is clear. It goes something like this: take Thames Water from the tap in your factory in Sidcup, Kent; put it through a purification process, call it "pure" and give it a mark-up from 0.03p to 95p per half litre; in the process, add a batch of calcium chloride, containing bromide, for "taste profile"; then pump ozone through it, oxidising the bromide - which is not a problem - into bromate - which is. Finally, dispatch to the shops bottles of water containing up to twice the legal limit for bromate (10 micrograms per litre). The Drinking Water Inspectorate confirmed yesterday it had checked the Thames water supplied to the factory and found it free of bromate. Because it is unsafe at high levels, standards for bromate in tap water are strictly monitored. Bromide is a naturally occurring trace chemical which has a sedative effect. It is said to have been added by the British army to soldiers' tea during the second world war to dampen down their lust. But when it is oxidised into bromate it becomes "a pretty nasty carcinogen", according to David Drury, one of the principal inspectors for the DWI. "I've checked Thames water's supply this morning and it is free of bromate," he said. The legal limits are set to have a wide margin of safety, and the Food Standards Agency advice yesterday was that while Dasani contained illegal levels of bromate, it did not present an immediate risk to the public. "Any increased cancer risk is likely to be small. However the levels are higher than legally permitted in the UK and present an unnecessary risk. Some consumers may chose not to drink any Dasani they purchased prior to its withdrawal given the levels of bromate in it," the FSA said. Coca-Cola said it was voluntarily withdrawing all Dasani "to ensure that only products of the highest quality are provided to our consumers". Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Housing for the Refugees?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think I heard that here in Fairfield there are 400 houses on > the market. I don¹t know how many apartments for rent. I¹m going > to check. I imagine that around the entire country there are more > than enough empty houses and apartments to accommodate all the > Katrina refugees. Seems to me some sort of government funding > should be set up to compensate the owners and landlords of these > houses and apartments, and people should be moved from the > Astrodome and church basements. Any thoughts on this idea? It's not a bad idea. If something could be done to ease the minds of the homeowners w.r.t. possible damage to their homes, it might even wind up saving them money. It costs far more to insure an empty home waiting to be sold than a home that is occupied. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Housing for the Refugees?
on 9/5/05 7:59 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I think I heard that here in Fairfield there are 400 houses on >> the market. I don¹t know how many apartments for rent. I¹m going >> to check. I imagine that around the entire country there are more >> than enough empty houses and apartments to accommodate all the >> Katrina refugees. Seems to me some sort of government funding >> should be set up to compensate the owners and landlords of these >> houses and apartments, and people should be moved from the >> Astrodome and church basements. Any thoughts on this idea? > > It's not a bad idea. If something could be done to ease > the minds of the homeowners w.r.t. possible damage to their > homes, it might even wind up saving them money. It costs > far more to insure an empty home waiting to be sold than > a home that is occupied. It may be that a majority of these refugees are poor, but they're not street people. Most of them you see interviewed on TV are good, decent folk who wouldn't trash a home or apartment and would be very grateful for a decent place to live. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why did'tn the mayor evacuate the poor with these NO buses?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > _Yahoo! News Photo_ > > > > > (http://news.yahoo.com/news? > > > > tmpl=story&u=/050901/480/flpc21109012015) > > > > > > > > > > Why didn't the mayor send these buses out to pick up the > poor > > > > > during his mandatory evacuation? > > > > > > > > News flash: Buses don't drive themselves. > > > > > > News flash to Judy: > > > > > > They were school buses..ANYONE can drive them. > > > > Are you a school bus driver? > > I have been in the past, for special events. > Shemp's right on this one in many states, where > only a regular driver's license (not a commercial > license) is required to drive a school bus. However, this is irrelevant, but NOT because: That > doesn't have anything to do with anything in this > situation, because by the time the need to > evacuate hundreds of thousands of people became > evident, the roads were already impassable because > of the storm. The issue is why the buses weren't used *before* the roads became impassable. As soon as it became clear that Katrina was likely to hit New Orleans, the need to evacuate was evident. There's yet another obvious requirement for driving the buses that nobody has mentioned (although it was in one of my earlier posts). > Evacuation of the poor wasn't planned for, so it > didn't happen. That's not good. Trying to help > them once they were trapped *obviously* wasn't > planned for. That's not good. Lots of "not good" > to spread around here. What *was* planned for in the case of Katrina was to bus those who didn't evacuate to "shelters of last resort," i.e., the Superdome and a couple of others. There were buses assigned to this task, and many took advantage of them; thousands of lives were saved thereby. What was not planned for was for people to have to stay in the shelters as long as they did, because it was expected that a FEMA-led effort to get them out of the shelters and away from the hurricane- ravaged area would be mounted immediately. The city also had in the works a complex, long-term plan to have local churches identify people in need of transportation and assign them to car pools, but it had only begun to be implemented by the time Katrina arrived. The plan would have taken another year or so to be fully developed and operational. Another plan that was in process was to retrofit the Superdome with backup generators and water supply and other independent infrastructure so that it *could* be used to shelter people for longer than a day or two, but that wasn't completed in time either. So the need to evacuate the poor was very well recognized as essential and was being worked on, but Katrina arrived too soon. The inherent difficulties of evacuating a city with such a huge car-less, money-less population as New Orleans are immense. The city was doing the best it could with the resources it had available. Busing all those who wanted to leave away from the city was simply not possible with the short notice they had with Katrina, first because of the lack of drivers, and second because of the traffic problem. Another complication was that the number of people who wanted to leave but couldn't afford to rent a car or take commercial transportation was higher than it might have been because so many of the poor population were on government assistance, and Katrina arrived near the end of the month when they were almost out of funds. > Petty assholes on FFL slinging shit and trying to > make it land only on the people they don't like > is also not good. Get a life. Actually, sniping at folks who are discussing a complex problem when you're so ill informed yourself, for lack of anything else to contribute, is distinctly in the not-good, get- a-life category. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Housing for the Refugees?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think I heard that here in Fairfield there are 400 houses on > > the market. I don¹t know how many apartments for rent. I¹m going > > to check. I imagine that around the entire country there are more > > than enough empty houses and apartments to accommodate all the > > Katrina refugees. Seems to me some sort of government funding > > should be set up to compensate the owners and landlords of these > > houses and apartments, and people should be moved from the > > Astrodome and church basements. Any thoughts on this idea? > > It's not a bad idea. If something could be done to ease > the minds of the homeowners w.r.t. possible damage to their > homes, it might even wind up saving them money. It costs > far more to insure an empty home waiting to be sold than > a home that is occupied. These quantities are a start but not enough. Is there any vacant land that might be available? If so, how about a project based on new environmentally sensible methods like strawbale and rammed earth techniques? Viz: http://www.strawbale.com/ http://www.rammedearthworks.com/ Uns. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Chavez Wants To Help'/'Bush Says No!'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Have either Tantra or Spare Egg heard Chavez speak? > > It may interest them to know that Chavez makes Georg Bush, Franklin > Graham and the U.S. religious right look like Madeleine Murray O'Hare > secularists by comparison. Chavez invokes the name of God and Jesus > every second sentence (plays very well with the lower-class Catholic > masses that make up his country) and pretty well makes his electorate > understand that he talks to God every day and that God tells him what > to do... Not sure what this has to do with the post you're responding to, but on its own terms: A lot of us wouldn't mind so much if Bush invoked God and Jesus even more than Chavez if his actions were consistent with Christian principles. It's the hypocrisy that is so repellent. > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > It is reported that President Chavez of Venezuela, has offered > help; > > > > > > > > For hurricane relief, in the form of hospital ship, etc. > > > > > > > > The United States Government has reportedly refused the help. > > > > > > My son has read that 60countries have offered help, and allhave > been > > > refused -not just Cuba and Venuzuela, but the UK and Canada as > well. > > > > Can't have the country that postures as the savior > > of the world gettin' any help from anybody, can we? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand Paul Mason" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > I thought you said you were a neutral observer where MMY is > > > concerned... > > > > Firstly, I certainly wouldn't have described myself in that way. > > Secondly, being unbiased does not mean that one is disallowed from > > demonstrating that MMY alone is responsible for the state of his own > > dodgey reputation. > > If you were unbiased, why would you care? Hello, hello, 1-2, 1-2, testing. You don't seem to be getting the gist. One doesn't have to be biased or unbiased to see the facts of the matter. So far you haven't attempted to dispute any of my assertions on their own ground, instead you resort to weak attempts to sidetrack. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Housing for the Refugees?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 9/5/05 7:59 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I think I heard that here in Fairfield there are 400 houses on > >> the market. I don¹t know how many apartments for rent. I¹m going > >> to check. I imagine that around the entire country there are more > >> than enough empty houses and apartments to accommodate all the > >> Katrina refugees. Seems to me some sort of government funding > >> should be set up to compensate the owners and landlords of these > >> houses and apartments, and people should be moved from the > >> Astrodome and church basements. Any thoughts on this idea? > > > > It's not a bad idea. If something could be done to ease > > the minds of the homeowners w.r.t. possible damage to their > > homes, it might even wind up saving them money. It costs > > far more to insure an empty home waiting to be sold than > > a home that is occupied. > > It may be that a majority of these refugees are poor, but they're > not street people. Most of them you see interviewed on TV are > good, decent folk who wouldn't trash a home or apartment and would > be very grateful for a decent place to live. I know that and you know that, but we're dealing with a country that actually believes what it sees on television. And what it's seen on television lately doesn't exactly encourage a homeowner to turn his empty house over to someone who has survived Katrina. I'm just saying that to combat the distorted public image of the refugees that has been caused by the actions of a few, some "re-education" would probably have to take place, along with, say, discounts on the donor's homeowners insurance. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why did'tn the mayor evacuate the poor with these NO ...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In a message dated 9/4/05 10:38:12 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > They were school buses..ANYONE can drive them. > > Are you a school bus driver? > > Doesn't exactly take a rocket scientist to drive a school bus. > There are lots of stories of young people breaking into School bus > depots and stealing them so they could evacuate. Several came to > Houston filling them with whoever wanted to come with them. I've seen only one such story. The guy was arrested and charged with theft. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight
on 9/5/05 8:27 AM, Premanand Paul Mason at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand Paul Mason" >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >>> I thought you said you were a neutral observer where MMY is concerned... >>> >>> Firstly, I certainly wouldn't have described myself in that way. >>> Secondly, being unbiased does not mean that one is disallowed > from >>> demonstrating that MMY alone is responsible for the state of his > own >>> dodgey reputation. >> >> If you were unbiased, why would you care? > > Hello, hello, 1-2, 1-2, testing. You don't seem to be getting the > gist. One doesn't have to be biased or unbiased to see the facts of > the matter. So far you haven't attempted to dispute any of my > assertions on their own ground, instead you resort to weak attempts > to sidetrack. My sentiments too. Calling a spade a spade doesn't indicate bias. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Housing for the Refugees?
on 9/5/05 8:31 AM, uns_tressor at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> I think I heard that here in Fairfield there are 400 houses on >>> the market. I don¹t know how many apartments for rent. I¹m going >>> to check. I imagine that around the entire country there are more >>> than enough empty houses and apartments to accommodate all the >>> Katrina refugees. Seems to me some sort of government funding >>> should be set up to compensate the owners and landlords of these >>> houses and apartments, and people should be moved from the >>> Astrodome and church basements. Any thoughts on this idea? >> >> It's not a bad idea. If something could be done to ease >> the minds of the homeowners w.r.t. possible damage to their >> homes, it might even wind up saving them money. It costs >> far more to insure an empty home waiting to be sold than >> a home that is occupied. > > These quantities are a start but not enough. Is there > any vacant land that might be available? If so, how > about a project based on new environmentally sensible > methods like strawbale and rammed earth techniques? Viz: > http://www.strawbale.com/ > http://www.rammedearthworks.com/ > Uns. Good idea for the long run. But we're talking now. Empty houses and apartments all over the country (and Canada?). A quarter of a million refugees in Texas alone. Let any of us spend a week on a cot in the astrodome and see how we like it. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Must live in sthpathya ved vastu to initiate
I'm not sure if this has been posted, but I've heard from good sources that there's a new rule from MMY that initiators must live in MSV proper vastu homes in order to be considered approved to initiate. I don't know if this is on top of recert. or if the recert idea is gone. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Must live in sthpathya ved vastu to initiate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm not sure if this has been posted, but I've heard from good sources > that there's a new rule from MMY that initiators must live in MSV > proper vastu homes in order to be considered approved to initiate. I > don't know if this is on top of recert. or if the recert idea is gone. Ohh, just got this clarification: From: "ICO" Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2005 9:07 PM Subject: NEW VASTU POLICY FOR ALL TM COURSES FROM NOW ON Urgent attention all National Leaders and National Offices: Please ensure that all TM Teachers in your country receive notification of this universal new policy of the Movement. NEW VASTU POLICY FOR ALL TM COURSES FROM NOW ON For the attention of all Governors of the Age of Enlightenment, Please note the following new policy which should be followed by all TM Teachers in every country in relation to all TM Initiations. >From now on, instruction in Transcendental Meditation should only be given in buildings that either have a perfect Vastu, or are at least orientated correctly. In addition, TM instruction should only be given by Governors who have their own residence in a building that either has a perfect Vastu or is at least orientated correctly. In countries where the Governor Recertification Course has already taken place, such teaching should also only be done by Recertified Governors. Regarding the definition of a "correctly orientated building" -- in the case of an existing building the tolerance we can allow is that the entrance should be either: a) due east, or a maximum of 5 degrees to the north of true east; or b) due north, or a maximum of 5 degrees to the east of true north. Please note that this refers to "true north" and not to "magnetic north". In addition, the building should fulfill all of the standard parameters for good Vastu, such as: a) avoiding a wrong slope to the south or west; b) avoiding a body of water in the south or west; c) avoiding a sunrise delay of more than 12 minutes; and d) avoiding the vicinity of high tension power lines, sources of pollution, and graveyards. With best wishes Jai Guru Dev International Course Office Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why did'tn the mayor evacuate the poor with these NO ...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In a message dated 9/4/05 10:52:28 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Stretch yourself, MDixon and Shemp. There are > two major, obvious exceptions to the rule that > ANYONE can drive the buses. > > I'll give you one for free: Only folks who know > how to drive can drive the buses. > > Now, what's the second one? > > Um ya have to be licensed? Nope, guess again. > Well a good emergency plan would have had > designated drivers planned for with specific routes and pick up > points and designated destinations for drop off at designated > shelter out side the city and flood plane. It doesn't take anymore > resources than what they already had. It does in terms of the requirement I mentioned; but even if they could have met that requirement, it would have very seriously complicated the traffic problems both within and leaving the city. The worst *possible* place to be when a hurricane hits is in a car or bus in gridlocked traffic. Even if they'd had the drivers, they didn't have enough time. > Had you listened to Michael Chertoff clearly on Meet the Press, all > of the reports about what would happen if the levees broke > said "once they broke it would be too late. Thousands would die. > Evacuation needed to occur BEFORE they broke". He also stated > clearly that by law it is the responsibility of the state and > local governments to have and execute evacuation plans in the event > of disasters. In fact, the National Response Plan, accepted by the Bush administration in December 2004, provides that in the event of a major emergency that is likely to overwhelm the resources of state and local governments, the feds are to take over immediately: "In an Incident of National Significance, the Secretary of Homeland Security, in coordination with other Federal departments and agencies, INITIATES actions to prevent, PREPARE FOR, respond to, and recover from the incident. These actions are taken in conjunction with State, local, tribal, nongovernmental, and private-sector entities." [emphasis added] The threat of a category 4 hurricane striking New Orleans amply meets the official definition of an Incident of National Significance. In other words, the feds' responsibility clearly takes precedence over that of state and local authorities. Here's the full text of the National Response Plan in PDF form: http://www.dhs.gov/interweb/assetlibrary/NRPbaseplan.pdf Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Housing for the Refugees?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 9/5/05 8:31 AM, uns_tressor at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> I think I heard that here in Fairfield there are 400 houses on > >>> the market. I don¹t know how many apartments for rent. I¹m going > >>> to check. I imagine that around the entire country there are more > >>> than enough empty houses and apartments to accommodate all the > >>> Katrina refugees. Seems to me some sort of government funding > >>> should be set up to compensate the owners and landlords of these > >>> houses and apartments, and people should be moved from the > >>> Astrodome and church basements. Any thoughts on this idea? > >> > >> It's not a bad idea. If something could be done to ease > >> the minds of the homeowners w.r.t. possible damage to their > >> homes, it might even wind up saving them money. It costs > >> far more to insure an empty home waiting to be sold than > >> a home that is occupied. > > > > These quantities are a start but not enough. Is there > > any vacant land that might be available? If so, how > > about a project based on new environmentally sensible > > methods like strawbale and rammed earth techniques? Viz: > > http://www.strawbale.com/ > > http://www.rammedearthworks.com/ > > Uns. > > Good idea for the long run. But we're talking now. Empty houses > and apartments all over the country (and Canada?). A quarter of a > million refugees in Texas alone. Let any of us spend a week on a > cot in the astrodome and see how we like it. Personally, Rick, I think this is a great idea. It sounds to me like the people to implement it are *realtors*. They are the ones who would know what houses/apartments were available, and be able to contact the owners to propose such an idea. If anyone sells real estate, especially in Texas or other areas near the affected areas, this sounds like an idea that could actually be implemented and do a lot of good. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why did'tn the mayor evacuate the poor with these NO ...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In a message dated 9/4/05 11:18:03 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > "Mayfield said the strength of the storm and the potential disaster > it could bring were made clear during both the briefings and in > formal advisories, which warned of a storm surge capable of > overtopping levees in New Orleans and winds strong enough to blow out > windows of high-rise buildings," the paper reported. "He said the > briefings included information on expected wind speed, storm surge, > rainfall and the potential for tornados to accompany the storm as it > came ashore. > > "We were briefing them way before landfall," Mayfield said. "It's not > like this was a surprise. We had in the advisories that the levee > could be topped." > > Chertoff told reporters Saturday that government officials had not > expected the damaging combination of a powerful hurricane levee > breaches that flooded New Orleans. > > Judy , there are some key words here. Mayfield uses the word > topped when describing what could happen with the levees. He said > nothing about breaching. I'm sure you know the difference. Topping > is water spilling over the top, which the pumps most likely could > have handled. I'm not at all sure it's clear the pumps could have handled the topping from the storm surge of a cat 4 hurricane. Remember, the system--including the pumps-- was designed to withstand only a cat 3 hurricane. > As for the administration trying to politicize or lay blame. I > have heard Bush from day one say he expected his people to not get > involved in that, but stay focused on the job. And you believed him? That's just more of his typical hypocrisy. The administration has been frantically figuring out ways to lay blame on local authorities; that's about all Chertoff has been doing in the last few days in his public appearances. There is a *massive* effort under way to direct blame away from the administration. > However the media keeps raising the issue "why > didn't FEMA evacuate the city when they knew the levees could > breach". The response is a matter of fact that the law states that > it is the responsibility of the state and local governments to do > that , not FEMA. As I pointed out in my previous post, that simply is not the case. The administration's National Response Plan explicitly designates DHA (which includes FEMA) as the quarterback in preparing for as well as responding to threats as severe as that posed by Katrina. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Must live in sthpathya ved vastu to initiate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm not sure if this has been posted, but I've heard from good > sources that there's a new rule from MMY that initiators must > live in MSV proper vastu homes in order to be considered approved > to initiate. I don't know if this is on top of recert. or if the > recert idea is gone. Let me see if I've got this straight. The sequence of events, if I've been listening correctly, goes something like this: 1. The TMO says to the few TB teachers still left in the movement, "Pay us 3000 bucks to be 'recertified' at something you already learned decades or years ago or you can't teach any more." 2. Then you say, "By the way, you'll have to quit your jobs, because the only people eligible to be 'recertified' have to agree to work for the TM movement full time." 3. You temper these demands by saying, "Oh, this isn't as bad as it sounds because we'll actually *pay* you a tiny monthly salary for working for us full time." 4. Next, you fail to send out any paychecks after the first couple of abortive months of this new program. 5. Then you add another requirement, "TM can only be taught in approved Vastu-correct buildings." 6. Finally you throw in the clincher, "Now that you have quit your jobs and we have stopped paying you, you have to buy an approved Vastu-correct house your- self or you won't be allowed to teach, even though we 'recertified' you." If someone wrote this up for "Fortune" or "Business Week" as a real business plan, it would have people all over the world on the floor laughing at the sheer idiocy of it. Yet in the TM movement, there are some people so dumb that they will actually go for it. And they say that TM increases intelligence in its practitioners. Go figure. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] A question to ponder (was Re: Must live in sthpathya ved vastu to initiate)
Ok. Just saw Mark's clarification post, so scratch step number 6 below. For now. :-) However, has anyone considered the possibility that the entire theory behind Maharishi Sthapatya-Veda is WRONG? Not just WRONG, but completely BACKWARDS, and that what living and working in a building designed in accord- ance with MSV principles actually does is to REDUCE the intelligence of the inhabitants? I mean, think about it. The majority of the patently insane ideas coming out of the TM movement have come about since its leaders began living and working in such buildings. I'd say that, based on the TM movement itself, there is probably more credible evidence that MSV is a BAD idea than there is that it is a good idea. Unc --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm not sure if this has been posted, but I've heard from good > > sources that there's a new rule from MMY that initiators must > > live in MSV proper vastu homes in order to be considered > > approved to initiate. I don't know if this is on top of recert. > > or if the recert idea is gone. > > Let me see if I've got this straight. The sequence of > events, if I've been listening correctly, goes something > like this: > > 1. The TMO says to the few TB teachers still left in > the movement, "Pay us 3000 bucks to be 'recertified' > at something you already learned decades or years ago > or you can't teach any more." > > 2. Then you say, "By the way, you'll have to quit your > jobs, because the only people eligible to be 'recertified' > have to agree to work for the TM movement full time." > > 3. You temper these demands by saying, "Oh, this isn't > as bad as it sounds because we'll actually *pay* you > a tiny monthly salary for working for us full time." > > 4. Next, you fail to send out any paychecks after the > first couple of abortive months of this new program. > > 5. Then you add another requirement, "TM can only be > taught in approved Vastu-correct buildings." > > 6. Finally you throw in the clincher, "Now that you > have quit your jobs and we have stopped paying you, > you have to buy an approved Vastu-correct house your- > self or you won't be allowed to teach, even though > we 'recertified' you." > > If someone wrote this up for "Fortune" or "Business > Week" as a real business plan, it would have people > all over the world on the floor laughing at the sheer > idiocy of it. Yet in the TM movement, there are some > people so dumb that they will actually go for it. > > And they say that TM increases intelligence in its > practitioners. Go figure. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why did'tn the mayor evacuate the poor with these NO ...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > As for the administration trying to politicize or lay blame. I > > have heard Bush from day one say he expected his people to not > get involved in that, but stay focused on the job. > > And you believed him? That's just more of his typical > hypocrisy. Just heard on CNN, Governor Blanco had no idea when Bush would be flying into Baton Rouge today until her people called the White House and asked at 6:00 this morning. She had enough time to arrange to meet him at the airport, but isn't it interesting that the White House "forgot" to give her a heads-up? Also, all air traffic--including rescue helicopters and evacuation planes--were have been grounded for Bush's visit. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Must live in Sthapatya ved vastu to initiate
Another good letter to the editor Barry. Unfortunately, Erik Gable has left town. [EMAIL PROTECTED] is the email address. But maybe too much of a roo issue to be of interest to the general Fairfield community. on 9/5/05 9:47 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I'm not sure if this has been posted, but I've heard from good >> sources that there's a new rule from MMY that initiators must >> live in MSV proper vastu homes in order to be considered approved >> to initiate. I don't know if this is on top of recert. or if the >> recert idea is gone. > > Let me see if I've got this straight. The sequence of > events, if I've been listening correctly, goes something > like this: > > 1. The TMO says to the few TB teachers still left in > the movement, "Pay us 3000 bucks to be 'recertified' > at something you already learned decades or years ago > or you can't teach any more." > > 2. Then you say, "By the way, you'll have to quit your > jobs, because the only people eligible to be 'recertified' > have to agree to work for the TM movement full time." > > 3. You temper these demands by saying, "Oh, this isn't > as bad as it sounds because we'll actually *pay* you > a tiny monthly salary for working for us full time." > > 4. Next, you fail to send out any paychecks after the > first couple of abortive months of this new program. > > 5. Then you add another requirement, "TM can only be > taught in approved Vastu-correct buildings." > > 6. Finally you throw in the clincher, "Now that you > have quit your jobs and we have stopped paying you, > you have to buy an approved Vastu-correct house your- > self or you won't be allowed to teach, even though > we 'recertified' you." > > If someone wrote this up for "Fortune" or "Business > Week" as a real business plan, it would have people > all over the world on the floor laughing at the sheer > idiocy of it. Yet in the TM movement, there are some > people so dumb that they will actually go for it. > > And they say that TM increases intelligence in its > practitioners. Go figure. > > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > -- Rick Archer SearchSummit 1108 South B Street Fairfield, IA 52556 Phone: 641-472-9336 Fax: 815-572-5842 http://searchsummit.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand Paul Mason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ..."Then as now the topic was the Maharishi and not the meditation. Perhaps one day people will be able to separate the two and realise that whilst the meditation technique works, the reputation of the Maharishi will probably always be in question." I find it interesting how we eventually separate the two; that by tailoring away the untidy we can somehow create an understanding more suitable to the present. As a reluctant member of that sub-group bereft of deep, self-evident experience, the personal has often times been the marker of a path well chosen. --- Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why did'tn the mayor evacuate the poor with these NO ...
In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > As for the administration trying to politicize or lay blame. I > have heard Bush from day one say he expected his people to not > get involved in that, but stay focused on the job. >From the New York Times this morning: September 5, 2005 White House Enacts a Plan to Ease Political Damage By ADAM NAGOURNEY and ANNE E. KORNBLUT WASHINGTON, Sept. 4 - Under the command of President Bush's two senior political advisers, the White House rolled out a plan this weekend to contain the political damage from the administration's response to Hurricane Katrina. It orchestrated visits by cabinet members to the region, leading up to an extraordinary return visit by Mr. Bush planned for Monday, directed administration officials not to respond to attacks from Democrats on the relief efforts, and sought to move the blame for the slow response to Louisiana state officials, according to Republicans familiar with the White House plan. The effort is being directed by Mr. Bush's chief political adviser, Karl Rove, and his communications director, Dan Bartlett. It began late last week after Congressional Republicans called White House officials to register alarm about what they saw as a feeble response by Mr. Bush to the hurricane, according to Republican Congressional aides One Republican with knowledge of the effort said that Mr. Rove had told administration officials not to respond to Democratic attacks on Mr. Bush's handling of the hurricane in the belief that the president was in a weak moment and that the administration should not appear to be seen now as being blatantly political. As with others in the party, this Republican would discuss the deliberations only on condition of anonymity because of keen White House sensitivity about how the administration and its strategy would be perceived. In a reflection of what has long been a hallmark of Mr. Rove's tough political style, the administration is also working to shift the blame away from the White House and toward officials of New Orleans and Louisiana who, as it happens, are Democrats These officials said that Mr. Bush and his political aides rapidly changed course in what they acknowledged was a belated realization of the situation's political ramifications. As is common when this White House confronts a serious problem, management was quickly taken over by Mr. Rove and a group of associates including Mr. Bartlett http://tinyurl.com/7dfh6 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Housing for the Refugees?
In a message dated 9/5/05 8:00:16 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think I heard that here in Fairfield there are 400 houses on the market. I don’t know how many apartments for rent. I’m going to check. I imagine that around the entire country there are more than enough empty houses and apartments to accommodate all the Katrina refugees. Seems to me some sort of government funding should be set up to compensate the owners and landlords of these houses and apartments, and people should be moved from the Astrodome and church basements. Any thoughts on this idea? I think that is pretty much what is being done as we speak. All kinds of financial aid including unemployment insurance and more is being set up now. The idea is to get people out of the larger centers in smaller ones where it will be easier for people to look for jobs and housing once they start getting their government relief money. Why don't you get the town of Fairfield to offer to relocate some there? Texas has absorbed 200,000 and is currently maxed out. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Housing for the Refugees?
In a message dated 9/5/05 8:33:37 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: These quantities are a start but not enough. Is thereany vacant land that might be available? You know, the TMO has the Capital of the age of Enlightenment that has about 50 or more rooms not being used in Navasota Texas. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Housing for the Refugees?
In a message dated 9/5/05 8:34:45 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It may be that a majority of these refugees are poor, but they're not streetpeople. Most of them you see interviewed on TV are good, decent folk whowouldn't trash a home or apartment and would be very grateful for a decentplace to live. What about the housing for the Pundits that aren't coming? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Must live in sthpathya ved vastu to initiate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm not sure if this has been posted, but I've heard from good sources > that there's a new rule from MMY that initiators must live in MSV > proper vastu homes in order to be considered approved to initiate. I > don't know if this is on top of recert. or if the recert idea is gone. Yea, this directive showed up last week, I believe. One question I've been thinking about. With the whole shift of TMO to the correct vastu thing, is there a stigma for those living in Fairfield, who don't live a "correct" vastu dwelling. That would really be uncomfortable to feel your dwelling was marked with the equivilent of big scarlet letter. lurk Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did'tn the mayor evacuate the poor with these NO ...
In a message dated 9/5/05 9:00:49 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've seen only one such story. The guy was arrestedand charged with theft. I've heard of a couple others as well. But doesn't change the fact that almost anybody can drive a school bus. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Iowa community credit union Transcendental meditation Maharishi university Best of iowa community credit union Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Housing for the Refugees?
In a message dated 9/5/05 9:15:05 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Good idea for the long run. But we're talking now. Empty houses andapartments all over the country (and Canada?). A quarter of a millionrefugees in Texas alone. Let any of us spend a week on a cot in theastrodome and see how we like it. One of the plans I'm hearing is for churches to Adopt families and set them up in apartments and other rental properties and help people get a new start in life. And of course this will be in addition to the government assistance they will get. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Iowa community credit union Transcendental meditation Maharishi university Best of iowa community credit union Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Must live in sthpathya ved vastu to initiate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm not sure if this has been posted, but I've heard from good > > sources that there's a new rule from MMY that initiators must > > live in MSV proper vastu homes in order to be considered > > approved to initiate. I don't know if this is on top of recert. > > or if the recert idea is gone. > > Yea, this directive showed up last week, I believe. One question > I've been thinking about. With the whole shift of TMO to the > correct vastu thing, is there a stigma for those living in > Fairfield, who don't live a "correct" vastu dwelling. That would > really be uncomfortable to feel your dwelling was marked with the > equivilent of big scarlet letter. Instead of Hawthorne's "A," the letter in Fairfield should probably be "S," for Still Got A Brain. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Must live in sthpathya ved vastu to initiate
In a message dated 9/5/05 9:32:13 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm not sure if this has been posted, but I've heard from good sourcesthat there's a new rule from MMY that initiators must live in MSVproper vastu homes in order to be considered approved to initiate. Idon't know if this is on top of recert. or if the recert idea is gone. Mark this was brought up a while back. Yes it is supposed to be a new requirement in addition to being a recert. So I guess there might be a handful of people in the country that can initiate according to M's wishes. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Iowa community credit union Transcendental meditation Maharishi university Best of iowa community credit union Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did'tn the mayor evacuate the poor with these NO ...
In a message dated 9/5/05 10:27:50 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The effort is being directed by Mr. Bush's chief political adviser, Karl Rove, and his communications director, Dan Bartlett. It began late last week after Congressional Republicans called White House officials to register alarm about what they saw as a feeble response by Mr. Bush to the hurricane, according to Republican Congressional aidesOne Republican with knowledge of the effort said that Mr. Rove had told administration officials not to respond to Democratic attacks on Mr. Bush's handling of the hurricane in the belief that the president was in a weak moment and that the administration should not appear to be seen now as being blatantly political. As with others in the party, this Republican would discuss the deliberations only on condition of anonymity because of keen White House sensitivity about how the administration and its strategy would be perceived.In a reflection of what has long been a hallmark of Mr. Rove's tough political style, the administration is also working to shift the blame away from the White House and toward officials of New Orleans and Louisiana who, as it happens, are DemocratsThese officials said that Mr. Bush and his political aides rapidly changed course in what they acknowledged was a belated realization of the situation's political ramifications. As is common when this White House confronts a serious problem, management was quickly taken over by Mr. Rove and a group of associates including Mr. Bartletthttp://tinyurl.com/7dfh6 The writers of this article have a white House memo I suppose or is this all a hunch? I haven't heard any names, just an official in the White House. What exactly defines an official? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Must live in sthpathya ved vastu to initiate
In a message dated 9/5/05 10:50:21 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Yea, this directive showed up last week, I believe. One question > I've been thinking about. With the whole shift of TMO to the > correct vastu thing, is there a stigma for those living in > Fairfield, who don't live a "correct" vastu dwelling. That would > really be uncomfortable to feel your dwelling was marked with the > equivilent of big scarlet letter.Instead of Hawthorne's "A," the letter in Fairfield shouldprobably be "S," for Still Got A Brain. How about lambs blood over the door. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Must live in sthpathya ved vastu to initiate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm not sure if this has been posted, but I've heard from good sources > that there's a new rule from MMY that initiators must live in MSV > proper vastu homes in order to be considered approved to initiate. I > don't know if this is on top of recert. or if the recert idea is gone. Yup, been posted. Impeeding the unbounded by the outermost bound. JohnY Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why did'tn the mayor evacuate the poor with these NO ...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In a message dated 9/5/05 10:27:50 A.M. Central Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > The effort is being directed by Mr. Bush's chief political adviser, > Karl Rove, and his communications director, Dan Bartlett. It began > late last week after Congressional Republicans called White House > officials to register alarm about what they saw as a feeble response > by Mr. Bush to the hurricane, according to Republican Congressional > aides > > One Republican with knowledge of the effort said that Mr. Rove had > told administration officials not to respond to Democratic attacks on > Mr. Bush's handling of the hurricane in the belief that the president > was in a weak moment and that the administration should not appear to > be seen now as being blatantly political. As with others in the > party, this Republican would discuss the deliberations only on > condition of anonymity because of keen White House sensitivity about > how the administration and its strategy would be perceived. > > In a reflection of what has long been a hallmark of Mr. Rove's tough > political style, the administration is also working to shift the > blame away from the White House and toward officials of New Orleans > and Louisiana who, as it happens, are Democrats > > These officials said that Mr. Bush and his political aides rapidly > changed course in what they acknowledged was a belated realization of > the situation's political ramifications. As is common when this White > House confronts a serious problem, management was quickly taken over > by Mr. Rove and a group of associates including Mr. Bartlett > > http://tinyurl.com/7dfh6 > > The writers of this article have a white House memo I suppose or > is this all a hunch? Did you read the article? Because I have no idea where you came up with the notion of either a "memo" or a "hunch." The article is explicit about where it got the information (albeit anonymously). > I haven't heard any names, just an official in the White House. If you'd read the article, you'd have seen that it says the Times talked to several White House officials and some Republicans (presumably not White House officials). As to names, if you'd read the article you'd have seen this sentence: "As with others in the party, this Republican would discuss the deliberations only on condition of anonymity because of keen White House sensitivity about how the administration and its strategy would be perceived." > What exactly defines an official? I would imagine it's someone with a government title. Of course, if you want to remain firmly sunk in denial, you can fantasize that the Times made up the whole thing. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight
But meditation is about letting go. Perhaps for some TMers the obstacle to transcending is no more than realising that that is what TM is supposed to enable. Maybe the idea that one has a 'guru' can make one tardy in the focus of one's practice. In reality, if one has a guru he kicks butt and gets results. Shankaracharya Swami Shantanand Saraswati (Guru Dev's successor) noted that the last thing a renunciate lets go of, is the idea of renunciation. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mrfishey2001" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand Paul Mason" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > ..."Then as now the topic was the Maharishi and not the meditation. > Perhaps one day people will be able to separate the two and realise > that whilst the meditation technique works, the reputation of the > Maharishi will probably always be in question." > > > I find it interesting how we eventually separate the two; that by > tailoring away the untidy we can somehow create an understanding more > suitable to the present. As a reluctant member of that sub-group > bereft of deep, self-evident experience, the personal has often times > been the marker of a path well chosen. > > > --- Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand Paul Mason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand Paul Mason" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > > I thought you said you were a neutral observer where MMY is > > > > concerned... > > > > > > Firstly, I certainly wouldn't have described myself in that way. > > > Secondly, being unbiased does not mean that one is disallowed > from > > > demonstrating that MMY alone is responsible for the state of his > own > > > dodgey reputation. > > > > If you were unbiased, why would you care? > > Hello, hello, 1-2, 1-2, testing. You don't seem to be getting the > gist. One doesn't have to be biased or unbiased to see the facts of > the matter. "As they trailed out of the ashram he sat in his grass hut and whined! Did he call later and try and sort things out with his 'disciples'? Did he heck? So let's not blame John Lennon, Mia Farrow or anyone else but the man who let pride stand in the way of the greatest publicity the Spiritual Regeneration Movement could ever have had." I'm not sure what "Did he heck?" means, but in examining the above, I see some facts, and I also see some distinctly subjective impressions, such as "whined" and "let pride stand in the way." Both of these are interpretations, not "the facts of the matter." I wonder as well about the phrase "grass hut." Is this a factual description, or language that's been loaded to be demeaning? The rhetorical nature of the questions posed is another indication of subjectivity rather than "the facts of the matter." Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight
'The Maharishi was sitting alone in a small shelter made of wood with a dried grass roof.' Cynthia Lennon - 'A Twist of Lennon' Star, 1978 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand Paul Mason" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand Paul Mason" > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > I thought you said you were a neutral observer where MMY is > > > > > concerned... > > > > > > > > Firstly, I certainly wouldn't have described myself in that > way. > > > > Secondly, being unbiased does not mean that one is disallowed > > from > > > > demonstrating that MMY alone is responsible for the state of > his > > own > > > > dodgey reputation. > > > > > > If you were unbiased, why would you care? > > > > Hello, hello, 1-2, 1-2, testing. You don't seem to be getting the > > gist. One doesn't have to be biased or unbiased to see the facts of > > the matter. > > "As they trailed out of the ashram he sat in his grass hut and > whined! Did he call later and try and sort things out with > his 'disciples'? Did he heck? So let's not blame John Lennon, Mia > Farrow or anyone else but the man who let pride stand in the way of > the greatest publicity the Spiritual Regeneration Movement could ever > have had." > > I'm not sure what "Did he heck?" means, but in > examining the above, I see some facts, and I also > see some distinctly subjective impressions, such as > "whined" and "let pride stand in the way." Both of > these are interpretations, not "the facts of the > matter." > > I wonder as well about the phrase "grass hut." Is > this a factual description, or language that's been > loaded to be demeaning? > > The rhetorical nature of the questions posed is > another indication of subjectivity rather than > "the facts of the matter." Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Open letter to Ed Malloy (Mayor of Fairfield) Bob Wynne (Mayor of Vedic City) and Craig Pearson (Executive VP of MUM)
Title: Open letter to Ed Malloy (Mayor of Fairfield) Bob Wynne (Mayor of Vedic City) and Craig Pearson (Executive VP of MUM) This needs work, and I need to work, but as with the other letter, I thought I’d post it here to stimulate some discussion. After improving it a bit, I’ll probably send it to the local paper. Open letter to Ed Malloy, Bob Wynne (Mayor of Vedic City) and Craig Pearson (Executive VP of MUM) Texas has absorbed a quarter of a million refugees and is maxed out. In addition to the thousands of people living in major sports arenas, groups of 200-300 in hundreds of churches and community centers. All kinds of financial aid including unemployment insurance and more is being set up now. An effort is underway to move people from these larger centers to communities where it will be easier for them to look for jobs and housing once they start getting their government relief money. How about extending a welcome from Fairfield, Vedic City and MUM to Katrina refugees? There are 30-40 houses on the market here and numerous apartments. There is room for at least 500 people in the pundit housing in Vedic City. I don’t know what kind of housing there might be on campus, since so many buildings have been demolished, but you can bet that if 100 paying students wanted to come, space would be found. Universities around the country are offering to take in students displaced by the storm, tuition-free. Even a university in Austria has offered to take in 500 students. Moveon.org, at http://www.hurricanehousing.org/ is coordinating a grass roots effort to connect people who have extra room with those who need a place to stay. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Iowa community credit union Transcendental meditation Maharishi university Best of iowa community credit union Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand Paul Mason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ..."Shankaracharya Swami Shantanand Saraswati (Guru Dev's successor) noted that the last thing a renunciate lets go of, is the idea of renunciation." Delightful, and to the point. Seems difficult to avoid infinite regress. How do I know the value of renunciation? - Because my guru told me so. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight
> >>> > >>> Firstly, I certainly wouldn't have described myself in that way. > >>> Secondly, being unbiased does not mean that one is disallowed > > from > >>> demonstrating that MMY alone is responsible for the state of his > > own > >>> dodgey reputation. Mr. Paul; let's call a spade a spade here. From the obvious in your history, one sees two clear agendas. 1) Make as much money as you can in slandering one of the finest Masters who have graced this country with His presence. 2) Try to become famous yourself and puffing up your Ego. I think you are into a seriously dead-end-road leading nowhere. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why did'tn the mayor evacuate the poor with these NO buses?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > The governor didn't call up the National Guard till Wednesday night > and didn't declare martial law till Friday morning. Martial law has not been declared in Louisiana. I'm not sure where you're getting this idea. > The governor and mayor totally mismanaged their responsibilities. > Bush had to go down there and see what the hell was going on and > within 10 hours the Texas National Guard had taken control > of the Convention Center and Dome bringing food and water. Within > twenty four hours, the Army, Navy, Marines, Air force and Coast > Guard were on the scene Evacuating by helicopter the people to > buses, airplanes, and trains to take them to refugee centers. And > had everything under control by Friday evening. Bush, of course, could have gotten this going many days earlier if he'd been paying attention instead of romping around, still on vacation, giving speeches on Iraq and Social Security. He didn't have to "go down there" to find out what was happening and what was needed if FEMA and DHA, which should have been on the scene and preparing before the hurricane arrived, had been doing their jobs. For that matter, he didn't even need FEMA and DHA to see what was happening--it was all right there on television. He went "down there" when he knew the belatedly called-up federal forces were almost in position so that it would *appear* that he had saved the day. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand Paul Mason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 'The Maharishi was sitting alone in a small shelter made of wood > with a dried grass roof.' Cynthia Lennon - 'A Twist of Lennon' > Star, 1978 So, not exactly a "grass hut." And for how long was he sitting there? Did he live in this small shelter? > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand Paul Mason" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand Paul Mason" > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I thought you said you were a neutral observer where MMY is > > > > > > concerned... > > > > > > > > > > Firstly, I certainly wouldn't have described myself in that > > way. > > > > > Secondly, being unbiased does not mean that one is disallowed > > > from > > > > > demonstrating that MMY alone is responsible for the state of > > his > > > own > > > > > dodgey reputation. > > > > > > > > If you were unbiased, why would you care? > > > > > > Hello, hello, 1-2, 1-2, testing. You don't seem to be getting the > > > gist. One doesn't have to be biased or unbiased to see the facts > of > > > the matter. > > > > "As they trailed out of the ashram he sat in his grass hut and > > whined! Did he call later and try and sort things out with > > his 'disciples'? Did he heck? So let's not blame John Lennon, Mia > > Farrow or anyone else but the man who let pride stand in the way of > > the greatest publicity the Spiritual Regeneration Movement could > ever > > have had." > > > > I'm not sure what "Did he heck?" means, but in > > examining the above, I see some facts, and I also > > see some distinctly subjective impressions, such as > > "whined" and "let pride stand in the way." Both of > > these are interpretations, not "the facts of the > > matter." > > > > I wonder as well about the phrase "grass hut." Is > > this a factual description, or language that's been > > loaded to be demeaning? > > > > The rhetorical nature of the questions posed is > > another indication of subjectivity rather than > > "the facts of the matter." Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight
But if one does the renunciation in the meditation, the situation is simplied. Letting go of the idea of guru and the idea of renunciation and the idea of meditating and then the idea of a focus of meditation. & that's what one is supposed to be plunged into, during every period of 'meditation'. By the way, I am translating Guru Dev's teachings and two things he has said surface on this subject. If one is finding time for the Paramatma (Being) and happiness does not result then the answer can be that the method is incorrect or that perhaps it's time to look about for another teacher. These and other quotes can be found in a very state at:- http://www.paulmason.info/gurudev/AKtransrough.htm --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mrfishey2001" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand Paul Mason" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > ..."Shankaracharya Swami Shantanand Saraswati (Guru Dev's successor) > noted that the last thing a renunciate lets go of, is the idea of > renunciation." > > > Delightful, and to the point. Seems difficult to avoid infinite > regress. How do I know the value of renunciation? - Because my guru > told me so. > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight
Let's call the spade the spade and admit that there are a tiny group of individuals who when confronted with facts they do not like, because it digs in deep at the level of their beliefs they resort to personal attacks. I don't usually bother to answer crap like this but today I thought I'd make an exception. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lupidus108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>> > > >>> Firstly, I certainly wouldn't have described myself in that way. > > >>> Secondly, being unbiased does not mean that one is disallowed > > > from > > >>> demonstrating that MMY alone is responsible for the state of his > > > own > > >>> dodgey reputation. > > Mr. Paul; let's call a spade a spade here. From the obvious in your > history, one sees two clear agendas. > 1) Make as much money as you can in slandering one of the finest > Masters who have graced this country with His presence. > 2) Try to become famous yourself and puffing up your Ego. > > I think you are into a seriously dead-end-road leading nowhere. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight
on 9/5/05 12:43 PM, Premanand Paul Mason at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Let's call the spade the spade and admit that there are a tiny group of > individuals who when confronted with facts they do not like, because it > digs in deep at the level of their beliefs they resort to personal > attacks. "Tiny"? Most people are this way. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight
on 9/5/05 12:37 PM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand Paul Mason" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> 'The Maharishi was sitting alone in a small shelter made of wood >> with a dried grass roof.' Cynthia Lennon - 'A Twist of Lennon' >> Star, 1978 > > So, not exactly a "grass hut." And for how long was > he sitting there? Did he live in this small shelter? No. He had a nice house. Photo here: http://tinyurl.com/7llkl Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight
--- > Then as now the topic was the Maharishi and not the meditation. > Perhaps one day people will be able to separate the two and realise > that whilst the meditation technique works, the reputation of the > Maharishi will probably always be in question. There you have Paul Mason in a nutshell; gossipp, gossipp, gossipp. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand Paul Mason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The Beatles, the four most famous pop musicians endorsed TM and in > early 1968 were spending time in India with the Maharishi to get > longer practice and deeper understanding of meditation. The course > was drawing to an end and The Beatles were planning a concert in > Delhi, alongside the Beachboys and others. Apple, their production > company were planning to make a movie about TM, profiling the > Maharishi and his guru. All of which would have received global > attention. > > But attention shifted as some at the ashram entertained doubts about > the Maharishi himself. Rumour had it that he had shown sexual > interest in one or more of the course participants (doesn't really > matter who). John, George and their entourage made a hasty exit, and > ditched the plans for the concert and the film. What did the > Maharishi do? As they trailed out of the ashram he sat in his grass > hut and whined! Did he call later and try and sort things out with > his 'disciples'? Did he heck? So let's not blame John Lennon, Mia > Farrow or anyone else but the man who let pride This is a personal attack based on speculation. There is even speculation about mental states ie. Pride in the case of Maharishi. So it is making negative assumptions in an editorial way rather than sticking to facts. You haven't added any clarity to this old story and I question the salubrity of your motivation in bothering to bring it up now. stand in the way of > the greatest publicity the Spiritual Regeneration Movement could ever > have had. We all know his name by now, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. > > Then as now the topic was the Maharishi and not the meditation. > Perhaps one day people will be able to separate the two and realise > that whilst the meditation technique works, the reputation of the > Maharishi will probably always be in question. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand Paul Mason" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 'The Maharishi was sitting alone in a small shelter made of wood > > with a dried grass roof.' Cynthia Lennon - 'A Twist of Lennon' > > Star, 1978 > > So, not exactly a "grass hut." And for how long was > he sitting there? Did he live in this small shelter? And was he really sitting or could he possibly have been standing? Your reputation is on the line here, Paul. Remember to focus on the really important stuff like Judy does. :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight
But I have found many of those posting at FFL are really quite fair and reasonably open-minded. I can only think of more than about half a dozen or so that have seemingly been enlisted try to spoil the fun. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 9/5/05 12:43 PM, Premanand Paul Mason at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Let's call the spade the spade and admit that there are a tiny group of > > individuals who when confronted with facts they do not like, because it > > digs in deep at the level of their beliefs they resort to personal > > attacks. > > "Tiny"? Most people are this way. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Kucinich speaks; the favored Candidate by the Masters of Wisdom
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Floor Statement of Congressman Dennis J. Kucinich: > The Supplemental for Hurricane Katrina > > > WASHINGTON - September 2 - Congressman Dennis J. Kucinich (D-OH) gave the > following speech today on the House floor during a special session to > provide relief money for the victims of Hurricane Katrina: ³This amount of > money is only a fraction of what is needed and everyone here knows it. Let > it go forward quickly with heart-felt thanks to those who are helping to > save lives with necessary food, water, shelter, medical care and security. > Congress must also demand accountability with the appropriations. Because > until there are basic changes in the direction of this government, this > tragedy will multiply to apocalyptic proportions. ³The Administration > yesterday said that no one anticipated the breach of the levees. Did the > Administration not see or care about the 2001 FEMA warning about the risk > of a devastating hurricane hitting the people of New Orleans? Did it not > know or care that civil and army engineers were warning for years about the > consequences of failure to strengthen the flood control system? Was it > aware or did it care that the very same Administration which decries the > plight of the people today, cut from the budget tens of millions needed for > Gulf-area flood control projects? ³Countless lives have been lost > throughout the South with a cost of hundreds of billions in ruined homes, > businesses, and the destruction of an entire physical and social > infrastructure. ³The President said an hour ago that the Gulf Coast looks > like it has been obliterated by a weapon. It has. Indifference is a weapon > of mass destruction. ³Our indifferent government is in a crisis of > legitimacy. If it continues to ignore its basic responsibility for the > health and welfare of the American people, will there ever be enough money > to clean up after their indifference? ³As our government continues to > squander human and monetary resources of this country on the war, people > are beginning to ask, ³Isn¹t it time we began to take care of our own > people here at home? Isn¹t it time we rescued our own citizens? Isn¹t it > time we fed our own people? Isn¹t it time we sheltered our own people? > Isn¹t it time we provided physical and economic security for our own > people?² And isn¹t it time we stopped the oil companies from profiting from > this tragedy? ³We have plenty of work to do here at home. It is time for > America to come home and take care of its own people who are drowning in > the streets, suffocating in attics, dying from exposure to the elements, > oppressed by poverty and illness, wracked with despair and hunger and > thirst. ³The time is NOW to bring back to the United States the 78,000 > National Guard troops currently deployed overseas into the Gulf Coast > region. ³The time is NOW to bring back to the US the equipment which will > be needed for search and rescue, for clean up and reclamation. ³The time > is NOW for federal resources, including closed Army bases, to be used for > temporary shelter for those who have been displaced by the hurricane. ³The > time is NOW to plan massive public works, with jobs going to the people of > the Gulf Coast states, to build new levees, new roads, bridges, libraries, > schools, colleges and universities and to rebuild all public institutions, > including hospitals. Medicare ought to be extended to everyone, so every > person can get the physical and mental health care they might need as a > result of the disaster. ³The time is NOW for the federal government to take > seriously the research of scientists who have warned for years about the > dangers of changes in the global climate, and to prepare other regions of > the country for other possible weather disasters until we change our > disastrous energy policies. ³The time is NOW for changes in our energy > policy, to end the domination of oil and fossil fuel and to invest heavily > in alternative energy, including wind and solar, geothermal and biofuels. > ³As bad as this catastrophe will prove to be, it is in fact only a warning. > Our government must change its direction, it must become involved in making > America a better place to live, a place where all may survive and thrive. > It must get off the path of war and seek the path of peace, peace with the > natural environment, peace with other nations, peace with a just economic > system.² Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go
[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand Paul Mason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Let's call the spade the spade and admit that there are a tiny > group of individuals who when confronted with facts they do not > like, because it digs in deep at the level of their beliefs they > resort to personal attacks. I don't usually bother to answer crap > like this but today I thought I'd make an exception. "Resort" to personal attacks? It's their first reaction. Mr. Creme-filled-donut-head doesn't actually *have* a mind, as far as I can tell. He just repeats what he's been told by the guy who is famous for telling people anything that fuels their elitism. So anything he says you can just write off. What is sadder is when the first reaction of people who obviously *do* have brains is to attempt to demonize those whose *opinions* differ from theirs. A mind is a terrible thing to waste. What is downright laughable is when one of those people posts an article critical of Karl Rove, completely unaware that the two of them could hardly be more alike in their tactics and in their sensibilities if they had graduated in the same class from Nasty Piece Of Work University. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 9/5/05 12:43 PM, Premanand Paul Mason at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Let's call the spade the spade and admit that there are a tiny > > group of individuals who when confronted with facts they do not > > like, because it digs in deep at the level of their beliefs they > > resort to personal attacks. > > "Tiny"? Most people are this way. Rick, with all due respect, if you really believe this, you've either been in Fairfield too long or in America too long. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight
I hear what your saying - more info on the hut - leave out the stuff about The Beatles feeling let down and that they had been led to believe there was more to him than there was - S ..the story goes that he wasn't taken with the 'bungalow' that had been built for him in his absence, so he insisted on going to his hut. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand Paul Mason" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > 'The Maharishi was sitting alone in a small shelter made of wood > > > with a dried grass roof.' Cynthia Lennon - 'A Twist of Lennon' > > > Star, 1978 > > > > So, not exactly a "grass hut." And for how long was > > he sitting there? Did he live in this small shelter? > > And was he really sitting or could he possibly > have been standing? Your reputation is on the > line here, Paul. Remember to focus on the really > important stuff like Judy does. > > :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand Paul Mason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But I have found many of those posting at FFL are really quite > fair and reasonably open-minded. I can only think of more than > about half a dozen or so that have seemingly been enlisted try > to spoil the fun. I agree, but can't even think of half a dozen. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand Paul Mason"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > 'The Maharishi was sitting alone in a small shelter made of wood
> > > with a dried grass roof.' Cynthia Lennon - 'A Twist of Lennon'
> > > Star, 1978
> >
> > So, not exactly a "grass hut." And for how long was
> > he sitting there? Did he live in this small shelter?
>
> And was he really sitting or could he possibly
> have been standing? Your reputation is on the
> line here, Paul. Remember to focus on the really
> important stuff like Judy does.
If Paul can carefully avoid dealing straightforwardly
with the issue of his bias, instead taking the time to
"prove" to me that MMY was sitting in a shelter that
used some grass in its construction to justify his use
of the term "grass hut," I think it's OK for me to
press him on the function of the "hut" ("hut" being a
term that is typically used to describe a mean dwelling
place, as opposed to what now appears to have been
something more like a garden gazebo).
Notice that Paul has failed to respond to the observation
that the term "whining" and the phrase "let pride stand
in the way" hardly constitute "matters of fact," which is
what he had claimed to be dealing with, nor to my point
about his rhetorical questions.
The issue isn't where MMY was sitting; the issue is
Paul's refusal to admit to his obvious anti-MMY bias,
even on this forum, where anti-MMY bias is the rule
rather than the exception.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand Paul Mason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But I have found many of those posting at FFL are really quite fair > and reasonably open-minded. I can only think of more than about > half a dozen or so that have seemingly been enlisted try to spoil > the fun. And by whom do you suspect they have been "enlisted," Paul? > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 9/5/05 12:43 PM, Premanand Paul Mason at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > Let's call the spade the spade and admit that there are a tiny > group of > > > individuals who when confronted with facts they do not like, > because it > > > digs in deep at the level of their beliefs they resort to personal > > > attacks. > > > > "Tiny"? Most people are this way. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand Paul Mason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I hear what your saying - more info on the hut - leave out the > stuff about The Beatles feeling let down and that they had been > led to believe there was more to him than there was - S... > the story goes that he wasn't taken with the 'bungalow' that had > been built for him in his absence, so he insisted on going to > his hut. Aha! The true origin of his "Oh my hut!" story. :-) > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand Paul Mason" > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > 'The Maharishi was sitting alone in a small shelter made of wood > > > > with a dried grass roof.' Cynthia Lennon - 'A Twist of Lennon' > > > > Star, 1978 > > > > > > So, not exactly a "grass hut." And for how long was > > > he sitting there? Did he live in this small shelter? > > > > And was he really sitting or could he possibly > > have been standing? Your reputation is on the > > line here, Paul. Remember to focus on the really > > important stuff like Judy does. > > > > :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why did'tn the mayor evacuate the poor with these NO ...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In a message dated 9/5/05 9:00:49 A.M. Central Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > I've seen only one such story. The guy was arrested > and charged with theft. > > > > I've heard of a couple others as well. But doesn't change the fact that > almost anybody can drive a school bus. INCLUDING little old ladies...who, by the way, seem to be the drivers of the school buses I usually see on the streets. In the days leading up to the hurricane when everyone was told to evaculate, there is simply NO REASON why there wasn't a plan in place to "deputize" citizens on every block to be the designated school bus drivers for all those buses in the photo sitting there doing nothing. And how in hell the responsibility for such a plan could be on the Feds and NOT on the local administration I do not know. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Interview- link at top
This interview is wonderful... > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ron F <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > http://www.healthywealthynwise.com/article.asp?Article=3062 > > > > A Dog's Trip to the Chocolate Shop - David Lynch > > > > By: Chris Attwood and Robert Roth > > > > David Lynch is an acclaimed and widely recognized writer/director > as well as > > television producer, photographer, cartoonist, composer, and > graphic artist. More > > than any other arthouse filmmaker of his era, he has enjoyed > considerable mass > > acceptance and has helped to redefine commercial tastes, creating > a style so > > visionary and deeply personal that the phrase "Lynchian" has been > coined to describe > > it. > > > > David has become renowned for his work both in film and > television. From his first > > feature film, Eraserhead, which became a cult classic, David went > on to make many > > films which garnered both critical and public acclaim. He has been > nominated twice > > for Academy Awards as Best Director, first for The Elephant Man, > and later for Blue > > Velvet. His film Wild at Heart received the coveted Palme d'Or at > Cannes in 1990 and > > he was awarded the Cannes Festival Award for Best Director in 2001 > for Mulholland > > Drive. > > > > Likewise, his television series Twin Peaks was a cultural > phenomenon and resulted in > > his appearance on the cover of Time magazine. > > > > In recent years, David's public appearances have focused on his > inner journey as he > > has appeared numerous times to support the programs for education > and world peace > > offered by His Holiness Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, who brought > Transcendental Meditation > > to the West. > > > > As one of David's close friends, this interview is conducted by > Robert Roth, > > Director of Media Relations for the Institute of Science, > Technology and Public > > Policy and author of "TM - Transcendental Meditation : A New > Introduction to > > Maharishi's Easy, Effective and Scientifically Proven Technique > for Promoting Better > > Health, Unfolding Your Creative Potential, and Creating Peace in > the World." > > > > Bobby: David, you have been called a "pop surrealist > master" and "the renaissance > > man of modern American filmmaking." On the other hand, Roger Ebert > has said, "There > > is something inside of me that resists the films of David Lynch." > > > > Your films clearly evoke a wide range of responses. What is the > passion in your life > > which has given rise to the unique and unusual work you have > created? > > > > David: It's difficult to answer that question. I started > out just as a regular > > person. I liked to paint and I liked to draw. I grew up in the > Northwest and I sort > > of thought, wrongly, that when you got to be an adult, you stopped > painting and > > drawing and did something more serious. > > > > In the ninth grade, my family moved to Alexandria, Virginia. On > the front lawn, one > > night, of my girlfriend's house, I met a guy named Toby Keeler. As > we were talking, > > he said his father was a painter. I thought maybe he might have > been a house > > painter, but further talking got me around to the fact that he was > a fine artist. > > > > This conversation changed my life. I had been interested in > science somewhat, and I > > suddenly knew that I wanted to be a painter. I started out in > painting, and the > > thing is, like everybody knows, we all have a voice and it's just > a question of > > working to bring it out. The more you work, the more it comes out. > It's not > > something, I don't think, that can really be taught. > > > > It just comes out, and you want your own voice to come out, and in > a kind of > > freedom. I lucked into filmmaking really. I made a moving painting > when I was at the > > Pennsylvania Academy of the Fine Arts. A guy saw this and > commissioned me to make > > another, and my camera was broken, so I made a live action and > animation combo, > > which he said he would like. > > > > That led me to get a grant from the American Film Institute, so in > filmmaking, I > > came in through painting, I just got green lights and I didn't > really know anything. > > I really believe that by doing, things come out. You just have to > be true to > > yourself and keep that voice going. It's like that. > > > > Then you realize, very quickly, that not everybody loves what you > do. The doing > > should be enjoyable. One of the things that you can test, is that > you would do it > > whether you got paid or not. It's just fantastically enjoyable. > When a thing is > > finished and you release it into the world, you never know what's > going to happen. > > If you've enjoyed the doing and you get bad reviews, you can still > live with it. If > > you sell out and you get bad reviews, it's very, very, very tough. > > > > Bobby: When you sent out M
[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight
I goofed, I meant combined on the TM newsgroups altogether. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand Paul Mason" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > But I have found many of those posting at FFL are really quite > > fair and reasonably open-minded. I can only think of more than > > about half a dozen or so that have seemingly been enlisted try > > to spoil the fun. > > I agree, but can't even think of half a dozen. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand Paul Mason"
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > 'The Maharishi was sitting alone in a small shelter made
> > > > of wood with a dried grass roof.' Cynthia Lennon - 'A Twist
> > > > of Lennon' Star, 1978
> > >
> > > So, not exactly a "grass hut." And for how long was
> > > he sitting there? Did he live in this small shelter?
> >
> > And was he really sitting or could he possibly
> > have been standing? Your reputation is on the
> > line here, Paul. Remember to focus on the really
> > important stuff like Judy does.
>
> If Paul can carefully avoid dealing straightforwardly
> with the issue of his bias, instead taking the time to
> "prove" to me that MMY was sitting in a shelter that
> used some grass in its construction to justify his use
> of the term "grass hut," I think it's OK for me to
> press him on the function of the "hut" ("hut" being a
> term that is typically used to describe a mean dwelling
> place, as opposed to what now appears to have been
> something more like a garden gazebo).
>
> Notice that Paul has failed to respond to the observation
> that the term "whining" and the phrase "let pride stand
> in the way" hardly constitute "matters of fact," which is
> what he had claimed to be dealing with, nor to my point
> about his rhetorical questions.
>
> The issue isn't where MMY was sitting; the issue is
> Paul's refusal to admit to his obvious anti-MMY bias,
> even on this forum, where anti-MMY bias is the rule
> rather than the exception.
The "issue," which you are studiously trying to
avoid, is that the Beatles blew him off as a
charlatan and a Bad Bet because of his own actions
and his reaction to it was to avoid learning any-
thing from the experience.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Must live in sthpathya ved vastu to initiate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In a message dated 9/5/05 10:50:21 A.M. Central Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > Yea, this directive showed up last week, I believe. One question > > I've been thinking about. With the whole shift of TMO to the > > correct vastu thing, is there a stigma for those living in > > Fairfield, who don't live a "correct" vastu dwelling. That would > > really be uncomfortable to feel your dwelling was marked with the > > equivilent of big scarlet letter. > > Instead of Hawthorne's "A," the letter in Fairfield should > probably be "S," for Still Got A Brain. > > > > > > How about lambs blood over the door. As I read your words, I can't help but hear, thanks to Billy Crystal, Edward G. Robinson's Lower East Side accent ringing in my ears: "Where's your Moses now? Where's your King of the Jews now?" Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand Paul Mason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I goofed, I meant combined on the TM newsgroups altogether. Ok, between a.m.t. and FFL I can think of six. But only six. > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand Paul Mason" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > But I have found many of those posting at FFL are really quite > > > fair and reasonably open-minded. I can only think of more than > > > about half a dozen or so that have seemingly been enlisted try > > > to spoil the fun. > > > > I agree, but can't even think of half a dozen. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight
> "As they trailed out of the ashram he sat in his grass hut and > whined! Did he call later and try and sort things out with > his 'disciples'? Did he heck? So let's not blame John Lennon, Mia > Farrow or anyone else but the man who let pride stand in the way of > the greatest publicity the Spiritual Regeneration Movement could ever > have had." According to Cynthia Lennon, Maharishi sat outside the hut. Just another small detail of very many history-bendings we will hear from Paul Mason in the years to come in his quest for money and (poor) reputation Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight
But I was including TMnews, I had a couple of out-to-lunchers lunge into me. But in essence we appear to agree. Actually, it gets very obvious when I am saying something that threatens someone's belief system, other times when it's just about quotations from Guru Dev people tend to be very well behaved, even the half dozen cracked eggs. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand Paul Mason" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I goofed, I meant combined on the TM newsgroups altogether. > > Ok, between a.m.t. and FFL I can think of six. > But only six. > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand Paul Mason" > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > But I have found many of those posting at FFL are really quite > > > > fair and reasonably open-minded. I can only think of more than > > > > about half a dozen or so that have seemingly been enlisted try > > > > to spoil the fun. > > > > > > I agree, but can't even think of half a dozen. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight
Mia Farrow's own take on HER incident with MMY (from her book "What falls away", p. 128): "Now we will meditate in my 'cave'," said Maharishi, and I followed him down steep wooden steps into a dark, humid little cellar room that smelled of sandalwood. It was my first time in his cave: there was a small shrine with flowers and a picture of Guru Dev, Maharishi's dead teacher, and a carpet on which we settled ourselves in the lotus position to meditate. After twenty or so minutes we were getting to our feet, still facing each other, but as I'm usually a little disoriented after meditation, I was blinking at his beard when suddenly I became aware of two surprisingly male, hairy arms going around me. I panicked, and shot up the stairs, apologizing all the way. I flew out into the open air, and ran as fast as I could to Prudy's room, where she was meditating of course. I blurted out something about Maharishi's cave, and arms, and beard, and she said, It's an honor to be touched by a holy man after meditation, a tradition. Furthermore, at my level of consciousness,if Jesus Christ Himself had embraced me, I would have misinterpreted it. Read it yourself at: http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/0385471874/ref=sib_rdr_next3_ex118/10 4-5775123-9995922?% 5Fencoding=UTF8&keywords=maharishi&p=S04D&twc=8&checkSum=wkyJwG%2BC% 2BAeC5VZj943ejTcDNabF4F0Zx0L1aZoErz4%3D#reader-page --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand Paul Mason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The Beatles, the four most famous pop musicians endorsed TM and in > early 1968 were spending time in India with the Maharishi to get > longer practice and deeper understanding of meditation. The course > was drawing to an end and The Beatles were planning a concert in > Delhi, alongside the Beachboys and others. Apple, their production > company were planning to make a movie about TM, profiling the > Maharishi and his guru. All of which would have received global > attention. > > But attention shifted as some at the ashram entertained doubts about > the Maharishi himself. Rumour had it that he had shown sexual > interest in one or more of the course participants (doesn't really > matter who). John, George and their entourage made a hasty exit, and > ditched the plans for the concert and the film. What did the > Maharishi do? As they trailed out of the ashram he sat in his grass > hut and whined! Did he call later and try and sort things out with > his 'disciples'? Did he heck? So let's not blame John Lennon, Mia > Farrow or anyone else but the man who let pride stand in the way of > the greatest publicity the Spiritual Regeneration Movement could ever > have had. We all know his name by now, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. > > Then as now the topic was the Maharishi and not the meditation. > Perhaps one day people will be able to separate the two and realise > that whilst the meditation technique works, the reputation of the > Maharishi will probably always be in question. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight
Paul Mason, qualified to translate Guru Dev's teaching ? What a joke, he has not even understood the fundamentals of Maharishis teachings. > By the way, I am translating Guru Dev's teachings and two things he has > said surface on this subject. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Byron Katie every Monday
Title: Byron Katie every Monday I invite you to join me every Monday afternoon at 12:00 pm -1:00 pm Pacific time on VoiceAmerica by logging onto their website at www.voice.voiceamerica.com . The information is listed on our event calendar at http://www.thework.com/Events.asp. They are broadcasting various recordings of me doing The Work with people who attended my recent book tour events. Some of you will recognize the people I work with, and some of the people I work with may even be you. I hope that one way or another they are you, and that these broadcasts touch your hearts and occasionally even your funnybones. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Iowa community credit union Transcendental meditation Maharishi university Best of iowa community credit union Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand Paul Mason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But I have found many of those posting at FFL are really quite fair and > reasonably open-minded. I can only think of more than about half a > dozen or so that have seemingly been enlisted try to spoil the fun. > What fun Paul ? Watching you digging your grave into obious stupidity by slander and gossip is tragic, not funny. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand Paul Mason" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > > I thought you said you were a neutral observer where MMY is > > > > concerned... > > > > > > Firstly, I certainly wouldn't have described myself in that way. > > > Secondly, being unbiased does not mean that one is disallowed from > > > demonstrating that MMY alone is responsible for the state of his > > > own dodgey reputation. > > > > If you were unbiased, why would you care? > > One might ask, "Why does what Paul believes about > MMY affect you in any way? Why do YOU care?" > > Seems to me that you're interested in finding a > way to demonize as "biased" someone who simply > believes differently than you do about Maharishi. > > Why? What do you gain from this? Does it help > to make your beliefs stronger? Paul Mason on one side of the spectrum on the question at hand, Spare Egg on the Other. And every point in between. Doesn't matter where you are on the above described spectrum, TM will work for you regardless. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand Paul Mason"
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > 'The Maharishi was sitting alone in a small shelter made of
wood
> > > > with a dried grass roof.' Cynthia Lennon - 'A Twist of
Lennon'
> > > > Star, 1978
> > >
> > > So, not exactly a "grass hut." And for how long was
> > > he sitting there? Did he live in this small shelter?
> >
> > And was he really sitting or could he possibly
> > have been standing? Your reputation is on the
> > line here, Paul. Remember to focus on the really
> > important stuff like Judy does.
>
> If Paul can carefully avoid dealing straightforwardly
> with the issue of his bias, instead taking the time to
> "prove" to me that MMY was sitting in a shelter that
> used some grass in its construction to justify his use
> of the term "grass hut," I think it's OK for me to
> press him on the function of the "hut" ("hut" being a
> term that is typically used to describe a mean dwelling
> place, as opposed to what now appears to have been
> something more like a garden gazebo).
>
> Notice that Paul has failed to respond to the observation
> that the term "whining" and the phrase "let pride stand
> in the way" hardly constitute "matters of fact," which is
> what he had claimed to be dealing with, nor to my point
> about his rhetorical questions.
>
> The issue isn't where MMY was sitting; the issue is
> Paul's refusal to admit to his obvious anti-MMY bias,
> even on this forum, where anti-MMY bias is the rule
> rather than the exception.
Does anyone know from where Paul Masons hate of Maharishi stems ?
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[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight
It is good to read this account of Mia Farrow. I was initiated in this 'cave', the basement of the 'bungalow'. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mia Farrow's own take on HER incident with MMY (from her book "What > falls away", p. 128): > > "Now we will meditate in my 'cave'," said Maharishi, and I followed > him down steep wooden steps into a dark, humid little cellar room > that smelled of sandalwood. It was my first time in his cave: there > was a small shrine with flowers and a picture of Guru Dev, > Maharishi's dead teacher, and a carpet on which we settled ourselves > in the lotus position to meditate. After twenty or so minutes we > were getting to our feet, still facing each other, but as I'm > usually a little disoriented after meditation, I was blinking at his > beard when suddenly I became aware of two surprisingly male, hairy > arms going around me. I panicked, and shot up the stairs, > apologizing all the way. I flew out into the open air, and ran as > fast as I could to Prudy's room, where she was meditating of > course. I blurted out something about Maharishi's cave, and arms, > and beard, and she said, It's an honor to be touched by a holy man > after meditation, a tradition. Furthermore, at my level of > consciousness,if Jesus Christ Himself had embraced me, I would have > misinterpreted it. > > Read it yourself at: > > http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/0385471874/ref=sib_rdr_next3_ex118/10 > 4-5775123-9995922?% > 5Fencoding=UTF8&keywords=maharishi&p=S04D&twc=8&checkSum=wkyJwG%2BC% > 2BAeC5VZj943ejTcDNabF4F0Zx0L1aZoErz4%3D#reader-page > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand Paul Mason" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The Beatles, the four most famous pop musicians endorsed TM and in > > early 1968 were spending time in India with the Maharishi to get > > longer practice and deeper understanding of meditation. The course > > was drawing to an end and The Beatles were planning a concert in > > Delhi, alongside the Beachboys and others. Apple, their production > > company were planning to make a movie about TM, profiling the > > Maharishi and his guru. All of which would have received global > > attention. > > > > But attention shifted as some at the ashram entertained doubts > about > > the Maharishi himself. Rumour had it that he had shown sexual > > interest in one or more of the course participants (doesn't really > > matter who). John, George and their entourage made a hasty exit, > and > > ditched the plans for the concert and the film. What did the > > Maharishi do? As they trailed out of the ashram he sat in his > grass > > hut and whined! Did he call later and try and sort things out with > > his 'disciples'? Did he heck? So let's not blame John Lennon, Mia > > Farrow or anyone else but the man who let pride stand in the way > of > > the greatest publicity the Spiritual Regeneration Movement could > ever > > have had. We all know his name by now, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. > > > > Then as now the topic was the Maharishi and not the meditation. > > Perhaps one day people will be able to separate the two and > realise > > that whilst the meditation technique works, the reputation of the > > Maharishi will probably always be in question. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight
--- lupidus108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: snip > > Does anyone know from where Paul Masons hate of > Maharishi stems ? I think it stems from the time he finally stopped beating his wife. > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > ~--> > Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make > Yahoo! your home page > http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM > ~-> > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > __ Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. http://store.yahoo.com/redcross-donate3/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 9/5/05 12:43 PM, Premanand Paul Mason at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > Let's call the spade the spade and admit that there are a tiny > > > group of individuals who when confronted with facts they do not > > > like, because it digs in deep at the level of their beliefs they > > > resort to personal attacks. > > > > "Tiny"? Most people are this way. > > Rick, with all due respect, if you really believe > this, you've either been in Fairfield too long or > in America too long. Says Barry, behaving *precisely* as Paul had just described and neatly proving Rick's point for him. Master of Unintended Irony, that's Barry. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand Paul Mason" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > But I have found many of those posting at FFL are really quite > > fair and reasonably open-minded. I can only think of more than > > about half a dozen or so that have seemingly been enlisted try > > to spoil the fun. > > I agree, but can't even think of half a dozen. Well, for sure, there is ONE you can think of, Tantra... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight
> > > If you were unbiased, why would you care? > > > > One might ask, "Why does what Paul believes about > > MMY affect you in any way? Why do YOU care?" > > > > Seems to me that you're interested in finding a > > way to demonize as "biased" someone who simply > > believes differently than you do about Maharishi. > > > > Why? What do you gain from this? Does it help > > to make your beliefs stronger? > > > Paul Mason on one side of the spectrum on the question at hand, > Spare Egg on the Other. > > And every point in between. > > Doesn't matter where you are on the above described spectrum, TM > will work for you regardless. Exactly. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Open letter to Ed Malloy (Mayor of Fairfield) Bob Wynne (Mayor of Vedic City) and Craig Pearson (Executive VP of MUM)
The day MMY lets a bunch of poor, homeless knee-grows move into pundit housing will be the day the pundits actually arrive. Sorry, no room at the inn. --- Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This needs work, and I need to work, but as with the > other letter, I thought > I¹d post it here to stimulate some discussion. After > improving it a bit, > I¹ll probably send it to the local paper. > > Open letter to Ed Malloy, Bob Wynne (Mayor of Vedic > City) and Craig Pearson > (Executive VP of MUM) > > Texas has absorbed a quarter of a million refugees > and is maxed out. In > addition to the thousands of people living in major > sports arenas, groups of > 200-300 in hundreds of churches and community > centers. All kinds of > financial aid including unemployment insurance and > more is being set up now. > An effort is underway to move people from these > larger centers to > communities where it will be easier for them to look > for jobs and housing > once they start getting their government relief > money. How about extending a > welcome from Fairfield, Vedic City and MUM to > Katrina refugees? There are > 30-40 houses on the market here and numerous > apartments. There is room for > at least 500 people in the pundit housing in Vedic > City. > > I don¹t know what kind of housing there might be on > campus, since so many > buildings have been demolished, but you can bet that > if 100 paying students > wanted to come, space would be found. Universities > around the country are > offering to take in students displaced by the storm, > tuition-free. Even a > university in Austria has offered to take in 500 > students. > > Moveon.org, at http://www.hurricanehousing.org/ is > coordinating a grass > roots effort to connect people who have extra room > with those who need a > place to stay. > __ Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. http://store.yahoo.com/redcross-donate3/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Open letter to Ed Malloy (Mayor of Fairfield) Bob Wynne (Mayor of Vedic City) and Craig Pearson (Executive VP of MUM)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The day MMY lets a bunch of poor, homeless knee-grows > move into pundit housing will be the day the pundits > actually arrive. Sorry, no room at the inn. Absolutely. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why did'tn the mayor evacuate the poor with these NO ...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > In a message dated 9/5/05 9:00:49 A.M. Central Daylight Time, > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > I've seen only one such story. The guy was arrested > > and charged with theft. > > > > I've heard of a couple others as well. But doesn't change the > > fact that almost anybody can drive a school bus. > > INCLUDING little old ladies...who, by the way, seem to be the > drivers of the school buses I usually see on the streets. > > In the days leading up to the hurricane when everyone was told to > evaculate, there is simply NO REASON why there wasn't a plan in > place to "deputize" citizens on every block to be the designated > school bus drivers for all those buses in the photo sitting there > doing nothing. And how would you enforce this "deputization" if those so designated decided they weren't going to take the risk, or they couldn't be found, when push came to shove? You've just added another layer of difficulty to the whole thing. > And how in hell the responsibility for such a plan could be on the > Feds and NOT on the local administration I do not know. It's written into the administration's own plan for dealing with disasters, as I outlined in a recent post. I doubt the feds could have done a whole lot more than the city did given the short time frame, but the buck stops with the feds. If they don't like what the city did but weren't able to come up with anything better, they have no business trying to put the blame on the city. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- lupidus108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > snip > > > > Does anyone know from where Paul Masons hate of > > Maharishi stems ? > > I think it stems from the time he finally stopped > beating his wife. > It's called sublimation, Doc, isn't it ? :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > ~--> > > Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make > > Yahoo! your home page > > > http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM > > > ~-> > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Or go to: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > > and click 'Join This Group!' > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. > http://store.yahoo.com/redcross-donate3/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Judy's karma
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand Paul Mason" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 'The Maharishi was sitting alone in a small shelter made of wood > > with a dried grass roof.' Cynthia Lennon - 'A Twist of Lennon' > > Star, 1978 > > So, not exactly a "grass hut." And for how long was > he sitting there? Did he live in this small shelter? I know that the causes and effects of the laws of karma are "unfathomable" but I think I know what the perfect response of the laws of karma will be to Judy's nit-picking of Paul on his "grass hut" comment will be: Judy will be subjected to the "Sparrow Question" from "Monty Python and the Holy Grail": [gurgle] Galahad: There it is! Arthur: The Bridge of Death! Robin: Oh, great. Arthur: Look! There's the old man from scene twenty-four! Bedevere: What is he doing here? Arthur: He is the keeper of the Bridge of Death. He asks each traveller five questions-- Galahad: Three questions. Arthur: Three questions. He who answers the five questions-- Galahad: Three questions. Arthur: Three questions may cross in safety. Robin: What if you get a question wrong? Arthur: Then you are cast into the Gorge of Eternal Peril. Robin: Oh, I won't go. Galahad: Who's going to answer the questions? Arthur: Sir Robin! Robin: Yes? Arthur: Brave Sir Robin, you go. Robin: Hey! I've got a great idea. Why doesn't Launcelot go? Launcelot: Yes. Let me go, my liege. I will take him single-handed. I shall make a feint to the north-east that s-- Arthur: No, no. No. Hang on! Hang on! Hang on! Just answer the five questions-- Galahad: Three questions. Arthur: Three questions as best you can, and we shall watch... and pray. Launcelot: I understand, my liege. Arthur: Good luck, brave Sir Launcelot. God be with you. Bridgekeeper: Stop! Who would cross the Bridge of Death must answer me these questions three, ere the other side he see. Launcelot: Ask me the questions, bridgekeeper. I am not afraid. Bridgekeeper: What... is your name? Launcelot: My name is 'Sir Launcelot of Camelot'. Bridgekeeper: What... is your quest? Launcelot: To seek the Holy Grail. Bridgekeeper: What... is your favourite colour? Launcelot: Blue. Bridgekeeper: Right. Off you go. Launcelot: Oh, thank you. Thank you very much. Robin: That's easy! Bridgekeeper: Stop! Who approacheth the Bridge of Death must answer me these questions three, ere the other side he see. Robin: Ask me the questions, bridgekeeper. I'm not afraid. Bridgekeeper: What... is your name? Robin: 'Sir Robin of Camelot'. Bridgekeeper: What... is your quest? Robin: To seek the Holy Grail. Bridgekeeper: What... is the capital of Assyria? [pause] Robin: I don't know that! Agh! Bridgekeeper: Stop! What... is your name? Galahad: 'Sir Galahad of Camelot'. Bridgekeeper: What... is your quest? Galahad: I seek the Grail. Bridgekeeper: What... is your favourite colour? Galahad: Blue. No, yel-- agh! Bridgekeeper: Hee hee heh. Stop! What... is your name? Arthur: It is 'Arthur', King of the Britons. Bridgekeeper: What... is your quest? Arthur: To seek the Holy Grail. Bridgekeeper: What... is the air-speed velocity of an unladen swallow? Arthur: What do you mean? An African or European swallow? Bridgekeeper: Huh? I-- I don't know that! Agh! Bedevere: How do know so much about swallows? Arthur: Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know. > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand Paul Mason" > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand Paul Mason" > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > I thought you said you were a neutral observer where MMY > is > > > > > > > concerned... > > > > > > > > > > > > Firstly, I certainly wouldn't have described myself in that > > > way. > > > > > > Secondly, being unbiased does not mean that one is > disallowed > > > > from > > > > > > demonstrating that MMY alone is responsible for the state > of > > > his > > > > own > > > > > > dodgey reputation. > > > > > > > > > > If you were unbiased, why would you care? > > > > > > > > Hello, hello, 1-2, 1-2, testing. You don't seem to be getting > the > > > > gist. One doesn't have to be biased or unbiased to see the > facts > > of > > > > the matter. > > > > > > "As they trailed out of the ashram he sat in his grass hut and > > > whined! Did he call later and try and sort things out with > > > his 'disciples'? Did he heck? So let's not blame John Lennon, Mia > > > Farrow or anyone else but the
[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shukra69" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand Paul Mason" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The Beatles, the four most famous pop musicians endorsed TM and in > > early 1968 were spending time in India with the Maharishi to get > > longer practice and deeper understanding of meditation. The course > > was drawing to an end and The Beatles were planning a concert in > > Delhi, alongside the Beachboys and others. Apple, their production > > company were planning to make a movie about TM, profiling the > > Maharishi and his guru. All of which would have received global > > attention. > > > > But attention shifted as some at the ashram entertained doubts about > > the Maharishi himself. Rumour had it that he had shown sexual > > interest in one or more of the course participants (doesn't really > > matter who). John, George and their entourage made a hasty exit, and > > ditched the plans for the concert and the film. What did the > > Maharishi do? As they trailed out of the ashram he sat in his grass > > hut and whined! Did he call later and try and sort things out with > > his 'disciples'? Did he heck? So let's not blame John Lennon, Mia > > Farrow or anyone else but the man who let pride > This is a personal attack based on speculation. There is even > speculation about mental states ie. Pride in the case of Maharishi. So > it is making negative assumptions in an editorial way rather than > sticking to facts. You haven't added any clarity to this old story and > I question the salubrity of your motivation in bothering to bring it > up now. No author, no matter how objective he claims to be (and Paul isn't even claiming to be objective), speculates about things such as mental states. Some historians -- such as Woodward and Bernstein and that English guy who was the official biographer of Ronald Reagan -- not only surmise in their works what their subjects were thinking but actually put down words that they thought they said. > > stand in the way of > > the greatest publicity the Spiritual Regeneration Movement could ever > > have had. We all know his name by now, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. > > > > Then as now the topic was the Maharishi and not the meditation. > > Perhaps one day people will be able to separate the two and realise > > that whilst the meditation technique works, the reputation of the > > Maharishi will probably always be in question. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand Paul Mason"
> > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > 'The Maharishi was sitting alone in a small shelter made
> > > > > of wood with a dried grass roof.' Cynthia Lennon - 'A Twist
> > > > > of Lennon' Star, 1978
> > > >
> > > > So, not exactly a "grass hut." And for how long was
> > > > he sitting there? Did he live in this small shelter?
> > >
> > > And was he really sitting or could he possibly
> > > have been standing? Your reputation is on the
> > > line here, Paul. Remember to focus on the really
> > > important stuff like Judy does.
> >
> > If Paul can carefully avoid dealing straightforwardly
> > with the issue of his bias, instead taking the time to
> > "prove" to me that MMY was sitting in a shelter that
> > used some grass in its construction to justify his use
> > of the term "grass hut," I think it's OK for me to
> > press him on the function of the "hut" ("hut" being a
> > term that is typically used to describe a mean dwelling
> > place, as opposed to what now appears to have been
> > something more like a garden gazebo).
> >
> > Notice that Paul has failed to respond to the observation
> > that the term "whining" and the phrase "let pride stand
> > in the way" hardly constitute "matters of fact," which is
> > what he had claimed to be dealing with, nor to my point
> > about his rhetorical questions.
> >
> > The issue isn't where MMY was sitting; the issue is
> > Paul's refusal to admit to his obvious anti-MMY bias,
> > even on this forum, where anti-MMY bias is the rule
> > rather than the exception.
>
> The "issue," which you are studiously trying to
> avoid, is that the Beatles blew him off as a
> charlatan and a Bad Bet because of his own actions
> and his reaction to it was to avoid learning any-
> thing from the experience.
We've known about the Beatles having blown him off
as a charlatan for many years; it's not in dispute.
Whether it was because of his own actions remains
murky, as does the question of whether he "learned
anything," and if so what it was.
Paul is certainly welcome to express his opinion on
the murky points, as are you; I don't happen to find
those points as overwhelmingly significant as the two
of you seem to. They don't matter to me a whole lot
either way.
As I said, the issue that prompted my remarks to
Paul is that of Paul's hypocrisy. If he'd just
'fess up to his anti-MMY bias and be straightforwardly
critical like most of the rest of the folks here,
I wouldn't have spoken up.
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