[FairfieldLife] Re: The great lie of Quantum Physics and Consciousness

2006-01-22 Thread Ingegerd
A common story told to us on TM-courses - was about the meditator that wished for an apple and suddenly the apple was in his hand. I have never experienced such a thing, but I think from my mind it is possible from the consciousness to create material things. Deepak Chopra has explained it in

[FairfieldLife] Re: The great lie of Quantum Physics and Consciousness

2006-01-22 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A common story told to us on TM-courses - was about the meditator that wished for an apple and suddenly the apple was in his hand. I have never experienced such a thing, but I think from my mind it is possible from

[FairfieldLife] Re: The great lie of Quantum Physics and Consciousness

2006-01-22 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hoogeh snippeh #2: Quantum vacuum potentials are not unmanifest Spirit. OM AkAshastalliN^gAt.h OM - BS I 22 :D Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples

[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: Something really good-using algae to reduce pollution and make oil

2006-01-22 Thread uns_tressor
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, uns_tressor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, uns_tressor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I weren't so lazy I'd maintain a website for all

[FairfieldLife] Re: The great lie of Quantum Physics and Consciousness

2006-01-22 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hoogeh snippeh #2: Quantum vacuum potentials are not unmanifest Spirit. OM AkAshastalliN^gAt.h OM Addenda corrigenda: - BS I 1 22

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The great lie of Quantum Physics and Consciousness

2006-01-22 Thread Vaj
On Jan 22, 2006, at 5:43 AM, cardemaister wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hoogeh snippeh #2: Quantum vacuum potentials are not unmanifest Spirit. OM AkAshastalliN^gAt.h OM  

[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: [nhnenews] Paula Zahn Now: 'Sex For Salvation?'

2006-01-22 Thread Irmeli Mattsson
There is a little booklet written by a Finnish clergyman Raimo Mäkelä. He has been working for the Finnish Established Church. The title of the book would be in English something like : The healthy mind as a mask. It was published in 2001. There he describes a certain personality type, which he

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FW: [nhnenews] Paula Zahn Now: 'Sex For Salvation?'

2006-01-22 Thread Peter
--- Irmeli Mattsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is a little booklet written by a Finnish clergyman Raimo Mäkelä. He has been working for the Finnish Established Church. The title of the book would be in English something like : The healthy mind as a mask. It was published in 2001.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Extraterrestrial consciousness: Universe Communion

2006-01-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes I was aware of this. Much of it, from what I had read in the past, seems to be part scientific materialist vs. higher states of consciousness debate. Yeah, none of the material I cited had anything to do with

[FairfieldLife] Re: The great lie of Quantum Physics and Consciousness

2006-01-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: File Under: TMO lies and marketing ploys; I'm not sure the TMO has ever made the claims Wilber debunks, actually. Boomeritis Hinduism; Pseudo- advaita Answers from biologist and physicist Ken Wilber.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The great lie of Quantum Physics and Consciousness

2006-01-22 Thread Peter
--- uns_tressor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: File Under: TMO lies and marketing ploys; Boomeritis Hinduism; Pseudo- advaita Ken goes on to suggest that what might be influencing quantum realities is not Suchness

[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: [nhnenews] Paula Zahn Now: 'Sex For Salvation?'

2006-01-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip The old addage by Nietzsche, Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. nitpick Actually it was by Lord Acton. /nitpick Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purusha's descent from Heavenly Mountain unto Earth

2006-01-22 Thread markmeredith2002
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, m2smart4u2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Michael Jansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date:

[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: [nhnenews] Paula Zahn Now: 'Sex For Salvation?'

2006-01-22 Thread Patrick Gillam
Comments interleaved below. --- Irmeli Mattsson wrote: There is a little booklet written by a Finnish clergyman Raimo Mäkelä. He has been working for the Finnish Established Church. The title of the book would be in English something like : The healthy mind as a mask. It was

[FairfieldLife] Re: The great lie of Quantum Physics and Consciousness

2006-01-22 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hoogeh snippeh #2: Quantum vacuum potentials are not

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The great lie of Quantum Physics and Consciousness

2006-01-22 Thread Peter
I agree with Judy. The TMO is usually not that excessive in its use of quantum physics metapohors, but there are individuals with rather concrete thinking that hvave blurred the metaphor/ experience distinction. --- authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The great lie of Quantum Physics and Consciousness

2006-01-22 Thread Vaj
He only cites Chopra in the talk--which IMO means, by extension, the TMO.On Jan 22, 2006, at 9:35 AM, authfriend wrote:I'm not sure the TMO has ever made the claims Wilber debunks, actually. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The great lie of Quantum Physics and Consciousness

2006-01-22 Thread Vaj
On Jan 22, 2006, at 9:34 AM, Peter wrote:What do you mean by "works?" The goal of TM is self realization or is it relaxation? Seems like there has always been this public/private split in the teaching. TM is a great relaxation technique but of limited use for self-realization at least in the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The great lie of Quantum Physics and Consciousness

2006-01-22 Thread Vaj
On Jan 22, 2006, at 9:51 AM, Peter wrote:I agree with Judy. The TMO is usually not that excessive in its use of quantum physics metapohors, but there are individuals with rather concrete thinking that hvave blurred the metaphor/ experience distinction.   Fromm a movement web site. There are entire

[FairfieldLife] Re: The great lie of Quantum Physics and Consciousness

2006-01-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He only cites Chopra in the talk--which IMO means, by extension, the TMO. Does it? Chopra left the TMO quite a few years ago. What works of Chopra does he cite, and when were they published? On Jan 22, 2006, at 9:35

[FairfieldLife] Re: The great lie of Quantum Physics and Consciousness

2006-01-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 22, 2006, at 9:51 AM, Peter wrote: I agree with Judy. The TMO is usually not that excessive in its use of quantum physics metapohors, but there are individuals with rather concrete thinking that hvave blurred

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The great lie of Quantum Physics and Consciousness

2006-01-22 Thread Vaj
On Jan 22, 2006, at 10:42 AM, authfriend wrote:Where do they make the claims that Wilber debunks? The claims listed in your previous post were: --Physics proves God; the Tao finds proof in quantum   realities. --Your consciousness creates electrons. --Quantum vacuum potentials are unmanifest

[FairfieldLife] Re: The great lie of Quantum Physics and Consciousness

2006-01-22 Thread Irmeli Mattsson
I have experienced many odd coincidences, that could be also explained as just coincidences. I however think I have too many of them and many of those really don't feel like a coincidences, even if some I see as such. For a few years ago I was participating a vedic recitation weekend course by

[FairfieldLife] Re: The great lie of Quantum Physics and Consciousness

2006-01-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 22, 2006, at 10:42 AM, authfriend wrote: Where do they make the claims that Wilber debunks? The claims listed in your previous post were: --Physics proves God; the Tao finds proof in quantum realities.

[FairfieldLife] Re: The great lie of Quantum Physics and Consciousness

2006-01-22 Thread Ingegerd
I have had the same experience many times - and without thinking what it is, I have used it as a technique for many years. If I really want something seriously, a job, need for money, whatever, I wish and forget - and the wishes is fullfilled in some way or another. I do not know the

[FairfieldLife] Board of Supervisors agenda - Moratorium for Hog Factories

2006-01-22 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Board of Supervisors agenda - Moratorium for Hog Factories Courthouse Building, 3rd floor If you can come to this historic meeting with the Bd of Supervisors on the MORATORIUM for FACTORY FARMS and LOCAL CONTROL, it would be very much appreciated. Please be there by 9:15am THIS MONDAY

[FairfieldLife] Energol-Ma

2006-01-22 Thread Peter
Hey! Energol-Ma? I lost your e-mail address __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day

Re: [FairfieldLife] Energol-Ma

2006-01-22 Thread Vaj
There's another brand available if you are interested with more active ingredients.It's made by Himalaya.On Jan 22, 2006, at 11:56 AM, Peter wrote:Hey! Energol-Ma? I lost your e-mail address To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to:

[FairfieldLife] Re: The great lie of Quantum Physics and Consciousness

2006-01-22 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What about the technology of the Unified Field that TM and the TMSP is supposed to represent? I tried and I tried. I huffed and I

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purusha's descent from Heavenly Mountain unto Earth

2006-01-22 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Michael Jansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 22:00:01 -0500 To: Michael Jansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Conversation:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Energol-Ma

2006-01-22 Thread Peter
Do you have a link? --- Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's another brand available if you are interested with more active ingredients. It's made by Himalaya. On Jan 22, 2006, at 11:56 AM, Peter wrote: Hey! Energol-Ma? I lost your e-mail address

[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: [nhnenews] Paula Zahn Now: 'Sex For Salvation?'

2006-01-22 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Comments interleaved below. --- Irmeli Mattsson wrote: There is a little booklet written by a Finnish clergyman Raimo Mäkelä. He has been working for the Finnish Established Church. The title of

[FairfieldLife] Quantum Consciousness / was The great lie of

2006-01-22 Thread off_world_beings
From Stuart Hameroff, the collaborator on many of Penrose's papers on quantum consciousness: Roger Penrose (1989; 1994; 1996) has proposed that isolated quantum systems which avoid environmental decoherence will eventually reduce nonetheless due to an objective threshold (objective reduction -

[FairfieldLife] Re: The great lie of Quantum Physics and Consciousness

2006-01-22 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: File Under: TMO lies and marketing ploys; Boomeritis Hinduism; Pseudo- advaita Answers from biologist and physicist Ken Wilber. http://www.tinyurl.com/cmay6 The first question has to do directly with the relation of

[FairfieldLife] Re: The great lie of Quantum Physics and Consciousness

2006-01-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: File Under: TMO lies and marketing ploys; Boomeritis Hinduism; Pseudo-advaita Answers from biologist and physicist Ken Wilber.

[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: [nhnenews] Paula Zahn Now: 'Sex For Salvation?'

2006-01-22 Thread Patrick Gillam
In _Path of Light_, Robert Perry says that everyone wears a mask. He takes this teaching from the Course in Miracles. Just got that book, Patrick. :-) JohnY Are you studying the Course, or thinking about it? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor

[FairfieldLife] Two Hindu Puns

2006-01-22 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Two Hindu Puns Two Hindu Puns Two Hindu swamis were in conversation. One said to the other, How did you like my latest book, 'The Art of Levitation'? His companion replied, It kept me up all night. *** A Hindu devotee asked God, represented by the multi-armed Lord Narayana,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Energol-Ma

2006-01-22 Thread Vaj
I buy here:http://www.bdbazar.com/nshop/Here is the companies website with the product and links to their research:http://www.himalayahealthcare.com/products/tentex.htmHimalaya is an Ayurvedic pharmaceutical company that was taken over by Germans years ago. They are state of the art. We use a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The great lie of Quantum Physics and Consciousness

2006-01-22 Thread Vaj
On Jan 22, 2006, at 12:37 PM, authfriend wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: File Under: TMO lies and marketing ploys; Boomeritis Hinduism;  Pseudo-advaita Answers from

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where is Brahmasthan?

2006-01-22 Thread Rick Archer
on 1/21/06 8:54 AM, Premanand Paul Mason at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Apparently the tallest building project is at 'Village Karaundi, Tahsil Sihora, District Katni, Madhya Pradesh'. I heard the project was dropped because the area is earthquake-prone. Yahoo! Groups

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purusha's descent from Heavenly Mountain unto Earth

2006-01-22 Thread lurkernomore20002000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Michael Jansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 22:00:01 -0500 To: Michael Jansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Conversation: Purusha's descent from Heavenly Mountain unto Earth Subject: Purusha's descent from

[FairfieldLife] Re: Energol-Ma

2006-01-22 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I buy here: http://www.bdbazar.com/nshop/ Here is the companies website with the product and links to their research: http://www.himalayahealthcare.com/products/tentex.htm Himalaya is an Ayurvedic pharmaceutical

[FairfieldLife] Re: Energol-Ma

2006-01-22 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I buy here: http://www.bdbazar.com/nshop/ Here is the companies website with the product and links to their research:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Energol-Ma

2006-01-22 Thread Vaj
On Jan 22, 2006, at 1:45 PM, Alex Stanley wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I buy here: http://www.bdbazar.com/nshop/ Here is the companies website with the product and links to their   research: http://www.himalayahealthcare.com/products/tentex.htm

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purusha's descent from Heavenly Mountain unto Earth

2006-01-22 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Michael Jansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Purusha's descent from Heavenly Mountain unto Earth snip Purusha administrators will try to start putting us on airplanes, busses etc. by next

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Energol-Ma

2006-01-22 Thread Vaj
On Jan 22, 2006, at 1:49 PM, Alex Stanley wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I buy here: http://www.bdbazar.com/nshop/ Here is the companies website with the product and links to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Energol-Ma

2006-01-22 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 22, 2006, at 1:49 PM, Alex Stanley wrote: Ooops... never mind... Makaradhwaj is mercury. Mercury alone is extremely poisonous. Personally, I don't even trust Ayurcedic mercury rasayana to not be poisonous to

[FairfieldLife] Re: The great lie of Quantum Physics and Consciousness

2006-01-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 22, 2006, at 12:37 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: File Under: TMO

[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: [nhnenews] Paula Zahn Now: 'Sex For Salvation?'

2006-01-22 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In _Path of Light_, Robert Perry says that everyone wears a mask. He takes this teaching from the Course in Miracles. Just got that book, Patrick. :-) JohnY Are you studying the Course, or

[FairfieldLife] Re: The great lie of Quantum Physics and Consciousness

2006-01-22 Thread markmeredith2002
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you familiar with the movement's search for the elusive substance M and what M. said about it? Is that the substance that was said to be found in the bloodstream of TMers and suggested to be Soma? If so,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The great lie of Quantum Physics and Consciousness

2006-01-22 Thread Vaj
On Jan 22, 2006, at 2:36 PM, authfriend wrote:Are you familiar with the movement's search for the elusive   "substance M" and what M. said about it? Is that the substance that was said to be found in the bloodstream of TMers and suggested to be Soma? If so, they were very excited about it at

[FairfieldLife] Quantum Consciousness / was The great lie of

2006-01-22 Thread tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis
Offworld : Roger Penrose (1989; 1994; 1996) has proposed that isolated quantum systems which avoid environmental decoherence will eventually reduce nonetheless due to an objective threshold (objective reduction - OR) related to an intrinsic feature of fundamental spacetime geometry (see

[FairfieldLife] Re: The great lie of Quantum Physics and Consciousness

2006-01-22 Thread Irmeli Mattsson
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have had the same experience many times - and without thinking what it is, I have used it as a technique for many years. If I really want something seriously, a job, need for money, whatever, I wish and forget - and

[FairfieldLife] Re: The great lie of Quantum Physics and Consciousness

2006-01-22 Thread Ingegerd
It is nice when these things happens - in a very natural way. I saw a perfect yantra in the gap between waking and dreaming state, with all the deities. I have been looking for it since in all places that sells yantras, but I have not found it yet. Ingegerd --- In

Re: [FairfieldLife] Purusha's descent from Heavenly Mountain unto Earth

2006-01-22 Thread Bhairitu
Rick Archer wrote: From: Michael Jansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 22:00:01 -0500 To: Michael Jansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Conversation: Purusha's descent from Heavenly Mountain unto Earth Subject: Purusha's descent from Heavenly Mountain unto Earth Late breaking news: Dear Friends,

[FairfieldLife] Re: The great lie of Quantum Physics and Consciousness

2006-01-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 22, 2006, at 2:36 PM, authfriend wrote: Are you familiar with the movement's search for the elusive substance M and what M. said about it? Is that the substance that was said to be found in the bloodstream of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum Consciousness / was The great lie of

2006-01-22 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: . 44. When one contemplates on the center of Universal Consciousness, what else remains there to be sought in the practice of prana, apana, and sushumna? That's rather interesting. The

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Purusha's descent from Heavenly Mountain unto Earth

2006-01-22 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 1/22/06 1:00:39 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That -- combined with the stuff about still paying off his student loans and writing this whole letter in the hopes that someone will pay so that he can go to Holland and "be close to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purusha's descent from Heavenly Mountain unto Earth

2006-01-22 Thread bbrigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/22/06 1:00:39 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That -- combined with the stuff about still paying off his student loans and writing this whole letter in the hopes that someone

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purusha's descent from Heavenly Mountain unto Earth

2006-01-22 Thread bbrigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/22/06 1:00:39 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That -- combined with the stuff about still paying off his student loans and writing this whole letter in the hopes that someone

[FairfieldLife] Re: The great lie of Quantum Physics and Consciousness

2006-01-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 22, 2006, at 2:36 PM, authfriend wrote: I'm still interested to learn the dates of the works of Chopra that contained the premises you say Wilber was debunking (and therefore that those premises were automatically

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Purusha's descent from Heavenly Mountain unto Earth

2006-01-22 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 1/22/06 4:21:27 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Any U.S. citizen who is low/no income qualifies for SSI at age 65, regardless of work history/pay-ins to Social Security. Anybody who is a permanent legal resident (not a U.S. citizen)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purusha's descent from Heavenly Mountain unto Earth

2006-01-22 Thread feste37
How do you know these things? You're just making stuff up. Where is the sense of panic you describe? The truth is that you've got the idea that everyone on Purusha is a sponger and a baby, and so you automatically read that into this letter. You're as predictable as the TBs you so regularly

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purusha's descent from Heavenly Mountain unto Earth

2006-01-22 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do you know these things? I don't; I merely reported how this letter made me feel. You're just making stuff up. No, I merely reported how this letter made me feel. I suspect many people here felt the same way.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Energol-Ma

2006-01-22 Thread anonyff
Vaj How much do you pay for these products? DO they come from overseas or are they shipped from within the U.S. Would you, uh, be able to talk about the effectiveness of this product here in FFLife? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I buy here:

[FairfieldLife] Evangelical Christianity

2006-01-22 Thread m2smart4u2000
did you see that special by Barbara Walters on heaven? She interviewed people from the Muslim faith and evangelical christians and they both thought that only their group would go to heaven. What is with this idea? It sounds like Hitler's white supremacy all over again. It is really scary to

[FairfieldLife] Evangelical Christianity

2006-01-22 Thread m2smart4u2000
did you see that special by Barbara Walters on heaven? She interviewed people from the Muslim faith and evangelical christians and they both thought that only their group would go to heaven. What is with this idea? It sounds like Hitler's white supremacy all over again. It is really scary to

[FairfieldLife] Course in Miracles (was Sex For Salvation)

2006-01-22 Thread Patrick Gillam
--- jyouells2000 wrote: CIM always stikes me as trancending through the intellect, sort of adviata in Christian terminology. Perry describes the Course as like a verbal symphony. A theme comes in and changes shape, them another theme picks up and starts developing, then a third them comes

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purusha's descent from Heavenly Mountain unto Earth

2006-01-22 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do you know these things? I don't; I merely reported how this letter made me feel. You're just making stuff up. No, I merely

[FairfieldLife] Re: Evangelical Christianity

2006-01-22 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, m2smart4u2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: did you see that special by Barbara Walters on heaven? She interviewed people from the Muslim faith and evangelical christians and they both thought that only their group would go to heaven. What is with this

[FairfieldLife] Re: Energol-Ma

2006-01-22 Thread doctor_gabby_savy
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey! Energol-Ma? I lost your e-mail address And may we ask why? Lost your love groove? And its your non-ego that seeks more and greater sexual satisfaction? Or is it Atman? Or Brahman? Or poor limp peter? Does

[FairfieldLife] Re: Evangelical Christianity

2006-01-22 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, m2smart4u2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: did you see that special by Barbara Walters on heaven? She interviewed people from the Muslim faith and evangelical christians and they both thought that only their group would go to heaven. What is with this

[FairfieldLife] Re: The great lie of Quantum Physics and Consciousness

2006-01-22 Thread doctor_gabby_savy
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you familiar with the movement's search for the elusive substance M and what M. said about it? Is that the substance that

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purusha's descent from Heavenly Mountain unto Earth

2006-01-22 Thread bbrigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/22/06 4:21:27 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Any U.S. citizen who is low/no income qualifies for SSI at age 65, regardless of work history/pay-ins to Social Security. Anybody

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Energol-Ma

2006-01-22 Thread Vaj
On Jan 22, 2006, at 5:51 PM, anonyff wrote:Vaj How much do you pay for these products? DO they come from overseas or are they shipped from within the U.S. Would you, uh, be able to talk about the effectiveness of this product here in FFLife? I haven't used Energol in a while, but it does what it

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The great lie of Quantum Physics and Consciousness

2006-01-22 Thread Vaj
On Jan 22, 2006, at 4:46 PM, authfriend wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 22, 2006, at 2:36 PM, authfriend wrote: Are you familiar with the movement's search for the elusive "substance M" and what M. said about it? Is that the substance that was

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The great lie of Quantum Physics and Consciousness

2006-01-22 Thread Vaj
On Jan 22, 2006, at 5:20 PM, authfriend wrote:OK, I've listened to it, and I think you need to listen to it again.  The fallacy Wilber is talking about doesn't have anything to do with TM's claims. Perhaps you also need to review what TM claims, for that matter. No that's all right, it's pretty

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Purusha's descent from Heavenly Mountain unto Earth

2006-01-22 Thread Rick Archer
on 1/22/06 6:30 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And, yeah, I concede that out of the 300-400 people on Purusha there may be 3 or 4 under a third category (but I doubt it's that high): self-made individuals who actually worked for a living between TTC and going on Purusha and are

[FairfieldLife] Re: Course in Miracles (was Sex For Salvation)

2006-01-22 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- jyouells2000 wrote: CIM always stikes me as trancending through the intellect, sort of adviata in Christian terminology. Perry describes the Course as like a verbal symphony. A theme comes in and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purusha's descent from Heavenly Mountain unto Earth

2006-01-22 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/22/06 4:21:27 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Any U.S. citizen who is low/no income qualifies for SSI at age 65, regardless of work history/pay-ins to Social Security. Anybody

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purusha's descent from Heavenly Mountain unto Earth

2006-01-22 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 1/22/06 6:30 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And, yeah, I concede that out of the 300-400 people on Purusha may be 3 or 4 under a third category (but I doubt it's that high): self-made

[FairfieldLife] Re: The great lie of Quantum Physics and Consciousness

2006-01-22 Thread TurquoiseB
Are you familiar with the movement's search for the elusive substance M and what M. said about it? Is that the substance that was said to be found in the bloodstream of TMers and suggested to be Soma? If so, they were very excited about it at one point, but nothing ever

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purusha's descent from Heavenly Mountain unto Earth

2006-01-22 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The truth is that you've got the idea that everyone on

[FairfieldLife] Correct order?? (N=55)

2006-01-22 Thread cardemaister
(1,2,3) maitryaadishhu balaani .. 23.. (4) baleshhu hastibalaadiini .. 24.. (5) kuurmanaaDyaa.n sthairyam.h .. 31.. (6?)pravR^ittyaalokanyaasaat.h suukshmavyavahitaviprakR^ishhTaGYaanam.h .. 25.. (7) bhuvanaGYaana.n suurye sa.nyamaat.h .. 26.. (8) chandre taaraavyuuhaGYaanam.h .. 27.. (9) dhruve