[FairfieldLife] Re: Crop Circle Communication
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : An interesting phenomenon that has been happening throughout history is the crop circle. Since the early 1980's at any rate There are some that claim crop circles are created by aliens, some believe that they are created by the magnetic field of the Earth, yet some claim that the crop circle phenomenon is an elaborate hoax and they tend to use certain occurrences as evidence. While some crop circles are indeed hoaxes, there are some that cannot be explained in this fashion. The first noticeable feature of real crop circles is the complexity of them. Some of these crop circles are so detailed that it would take humans hours to create, not to mention they would have to be created in the dark to avoid attention. This is where the problem starts I think, the argument here is from personal incredulity I don't know how people do it, so it must be done by some sort of higher power. The BBC put an end to this myth making by hiring a mathematician to design a fiendishly complex crop circle which they then gave to a bunch of known circlemakers. The only caveat was that they had to make it under cover of darkness in one night somewhere in England. I had always assumed they used laser sights or GPS to get them looking so neat but they don't, they had planks of wood and bits of string and one person shouted instructions to the rest. In 3 hours it was done, and it convinced the believers completely that the higher powers must be at work. I've tried searching for it online but you have to wade through so much true believer crap I've never found it. Until I can come up with a search term that eliminates the youtube dross you'll have to take my word for it but Nabby will think it's part of some CIA plot to discredit the Space Brothers anyway... Also, the dimensions of these circles are perfect. One mistake by someone and the entire crop circle is ruined. It is very improbable even a professional team of people could pull something as complex and perfect in a few hours of darkness. Uhuh. Do you remember Bill Witherspooon got a few friends to help him make a Mandala in the desert as an art project. This was spotted by the US air force and declared by experts to be impossible for humans to have made. Bill let the media hysterai Go for a while before fessing up. The lesson is that just because YOU couldn't do something doesn't mean that other people can't. Also, another feature of crop circles that is noticeable is the glossy appearance of them. This glossy or polished appearance exists on genuine crop circles because the all of the plants are broken at exactly a 90 degree angle. It is impossible that this could be done by humans. There have been reports of lights being seen above a field the night before a crop circle appears. It is a pretty big coincidence that there is a UFO sighting the night before a crop circle appears. There have man many reports of farmers or local residents seeing lights in a field moments before a crop circle forms.These occurrences are the most blatant evidence of extraterrestrial activity. Man-made crop circles appear often appear uneven and messy. They often seem dull compared to the real crop circles. This is because the even breaking of the plants cannot be copied by people. It is simply impossible. If you see one mistake in a crop circle then it is man-made. The extra-terrestrials have the technology to make them perfect which they have demonstrated over and over again. Why use Crop Circles? Extra-terrestrials use crop circles as a way of communicating when a civilization that has yet woken up to the Galactic neighborhood around them because it can be done without interfering with the free will of the people. Or in other words, it’s easy for people to believe that crop circles are created by other means. Crop circles are not blatant evidence of extra-terrestrial communication. We live in a free will universe which means that we have the right to believe in whatever we want to. Extra-terrestrial civilizations that have ascended into the 5th dimension have to respect this. If these beings do anything to intrude on our free will there could possibly be a bad outcome for the civilization they’re communicating with. Also from the higher dimensions there is an understanding of the oneness of all life. Therefore, extra-terrestrial civilizations only want what is best for our planet and our evolution. This mindset is crucial to existing in the higher dimensions. An individual or civilization cannot ascend and still keep the same ego patterns we see on Earth and the third dimension, the energy simply doesn’t match. How do you know this if they never directly communicate? Could you perhaps have evolved this myth out of the fact that - as you admit- genuine crop circles are easily confused with more
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sustainability of TM
Sorry Sal, you claimed the tracks from the tractors of the farmers were part of the Crop Circle design. There is therefore no reason to take anything you say on this matter seriously.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Crop Circle Communication
Sorry Sal, you claimed the tracks from the tractor of the farmer were part of the Crop Circle design. There is therefore no reason to take anything you say on this matter seriously. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : An interesting phenomenon that has been happening throughout history is the crop circle. Since the early 1980's at any rate There are some that claim crop circles are created by aliens, some believe that they are created by the magnetic field of the Earth, yet some claim that the crop circle phenomenon is an elaborate hoax and they tend to use certain occurrences as evidence. While some crop circles are indeed hoaxes, there are some that cannot be explained in this fashion. The first noticeable feature of real crop circles is the complexity of them. Some of these crop circles are so detailed that it would take humans hours to create, not to mention they would have to be created in the dark to avoid attention. This is where the problem starts I think, the argument here is from personal incredulity I don't know how people do it, so it must be done by some sort of higher power. The BBC put an end to this myth making by hiring a mathematician to design a fiendishly complex crop circle which they then gave to a bunch of known circlemakers. The only caveat was that they had to make it under cover of darkness in one night somewhere in England. I had always assumed they used laser sights or GPS to get them looking so neat but they don't, they had planks of wood and bits of string and one person shouted instructions to the rest. In 3 hours it was done, and it convinced the believers completely that the higher powers must be at work. I've tried searching for it online but you have to wade through so much true believer crap I've never found it. Until I can come up with a search term that eliminates the youtube dross you'll have to take my word for it but Nabby will think it's part of some CIA plot to discredit the Space Brothers anyway... Also, the dimensions of these circles are perfect. One mistake by someone and the entire crop circle is ruined. It is very improbable even a professional team of people could pull something as complex and perfect in a few hours of darkness. Uhuh. Do you remember Bill Witherspooon got a few friends to help him make a Mandala in the desert as an art project. This was spotted by the US air force and declared by experts to be impossible for humans to have made. Bill let the media hysterai Go for a while before fessing up. The lesson is that just because YOU couldn't do something doesn't mean that other people can't. Also, another feature of crop circles that is noticeable is the glossy appearance of them. This glossy or polished appearance exists on genuine crop circles because the all of the plants are broken at exactly a 90 degree angle. It is impossible that this could be done by humans. There have been reports of lights being seen above a field the night before a crop circle appears. It is a pretty big coincidence that there is a UFO sighting the night before a crop circle appears. There have man many reports of farmers or local residents seeing lights in a field moments before a crop circle forms.These occurrences are the most blatant evidence of extraterrestrial activity. Man-made crop circles appear often appear uneven and messy. They often seem dull compared to the real crop circles. This is because the even breaking of the plants cannot be copied by people. It is simply impossible. If you see one mistake in a crop circle then it is man-made. The extra-terrestrials have the technology to make them perfect which they have demonstrated over and over again. Why use Crop Circles? Extra-terrestrials use crop circles as a way of communicating when a civilization that has yet woken up to the Galactic neighborhood around them because it can be done without interfering with the free will of the people. Or in other words, it’s easy for people to believe that crop circles are created by other means. Crop circles are not blatant evidence of extra-terrestrial communication. We live in a free will universe which means that we have the right to believe in whatever we want to. Extra-terrestrial civilizations that have ascended into the 5th dimension have to respect this. If these beings do anything to intrude on our free will there could possibly be a bad outcome for the civilization they’re communicating with. Also from the higher dimensions there is an understanding of the oneness of all life. Therefore, extra-terrestrial civilizations only want what is best for our planet and our evolution. This mindset is crucial to existing in the higher dimensions. An individual or civilization cannot ascend and still keep the same ego patterns we see on Earth
[FairfieldLife] Re: Crop Circle Communication
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Sorry Sal, you claimed the tracks from the tractor of the farmer were part of the Crop Circle design. There is therefore no reason to take anything you say on this matter seriously. Neat way of getting out of the debate, I never said any such thing! Seriously, claiming that something is proof that aliens want us to think they are there but without giving us any evidence does make me wonder where the idea came from in the first place.I f they reliably communicated that information to somebody then they have already admitted they exist so why the subterfuge with the crop stomping? I think someone has made up a cool sounding story to explain something they don't want to give credit to humans for because they couldn't do it themselves. Treading down wheat with a plank or empty garden roller isn't that hard, not as hard a building the pyramids was and they got blamed on aliens too. What you underestimate is human ingenuity and the desire to create things of beauty. But the alien stories are fun, even if they don't make any sense ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : An interesting phenomenon that has been happening throughout history is the crop circle. Since the early 1980's at any rate There are some that claim crop circles are created by aliens, some believe that they are created by the magnetic field of the Earth, yet some claim that the crop circle phenomenon is an elaborate hoax and they tend to use certain occurrences as evidence. While some crop circles are indeed hoaxes, there are some that cannot be explained in this fashion. The first noticeable feature of real crop circles is the complexity of them. Some of these crop circles are so detailed that it would take humans hours to create, not to mention they would have to be created in the dark to avoid attention. This is where the problem starts I think, the argument here is from personal incredulity I don't know how people do it, so it must be done by some sort of higher power. The BBC put an end to this myth making by hiring a mathematician to design a fiendishly complex crop circle which they then gave to a bunch of known circlemakers. The only caveat was that they had to make it under cover of darkness in one night somewhere in England. I had always assumed they used laser sights or GPS to get them looking so neat but they don't, they had planks of wood and bits of string and one person shouted instructions to the rest. In 3 hours it was done, and it convinced the believers completely that the higher powers must be at work. I've tried searching for it online but you have to wade through so much true believer crap I've never found it. Until I can come up with a search term that eliminates the youtube dross you'll have to take my word for it but Nabby will think it's part of some CIA plot to discredit the Space Brothers anyway... Also, the dimensions of these circles are perfect. One mistake by someone and the entire crop circle is ruined. It is very improbable even a professional team of people could pull something as complex and perfect in a few hours of darkness. Uhuh. Do you remember Bill Witherspooon got a few friends to help him make a Mandala in the desert as an art project. This was spotted by the US air force and declared by experts to be impossible for humans to have made. Bill let the media hysterai Go for a while before fessing up. The lesson is that just because YOU couldn't do something doesn't mean that other people can't. Also, another feature of crop circles that is noticeable is the glossy appearance of them. This glossy or polished appearance exists on genuine crop circles because the all of the plants are broken at exactly a 90 degree angle. It is impossible that this could be done by humans. There have been reports of lights being seen above a field the night before a crop circle appears. It is a pretty big coincidence that there is a UFO sighting the night before a crop circle appears. There have man many reports of farmers or local residents seeing lights in a field moments before a crop circle forms.These occurrences are the most blatant evidence of extraterrestrial activity. Man-made crop circles appear often appear uneven and messy. They often seem dull compared to the real crop circles. This is because the even breaking of the plants cannot be copied by people. It is simply impossible. If you see one mistake in a crop circle then it is man-made. The extra-terrestrials have the technology to make them perfect which they have demonstrated over and over again. Why use Crop Circles? Extra-terrestrials use crop circles as a way of communicating when a civilization that has yet woken up to the Galactic
[FairfieldLife] Re: Crop Circle Communication
This is what you wrote: That's a rather poor effort, wobbly lines everywhere. about a Crop Circle with only circles, no lines. The only lines here are wobbly lines from tractors which you claim is part of the design. Having demonstrated your inability to see even the obvious several times, I see no further need to comment on your posts. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Sorry Sal, you claimed the tracks from the tractor of the farmer were part of the Crop Circle design. There is therefore no reason to take anything you say on this matter seriously. Neat way of getting out of the debate, I never said any such thing! Seriously, claiming that something is proof that aliens want us to think they are there but without giving us any evidence does make me wonder where the idea came from in the first place.I f they reliably communicated that information to somebody then they have already admitted they exist so why the subterfuge with the crop stomping? I think someone has made up a cool sounding story to explain something they don't want to give credit to humans for because they couldn't do it themselves. Treading down wheat with a plank or empty garden roller isn't that hard, not as hard a building the pyramids was and they got blamed on aliens too. What you underestimate is human ingenuity and the desire to create things of beauty. But the alien stories are fun, even if they don't make any sense ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : An interesting phenomenon that has been happening throughout history is the crop circle. Since the early 1980's at any rate There are some that claim crop circles are created by aliens, some believe that they are created by the magnetic field of the Earth, yet some claim that the crop circle phenomenon is an elaborate hoax and they tend to use certain occurrences as evidence. While some crop circles are indeed hoaxes, there are some that cannot be explained in this fashion. The first noticeable feature of real crop circles is the complexity of them. Some of these crop circles are so detailed that it would take humans hours to create, not to mention they would have to be created in the dark to avoid attention. This is where the problem starts I think, the argument here is from personal incredulity I don't know how people do it, so it must be done by some sort of higher power. The BBC put an end to this myth making by hiring a mathematician to design a fiendishly complex crop circle which they then gave to a bunch of known circlemakers. The only caveat was that they had to make it under cover of darkness in one night somewhere in England. I had always assumed they used laser sights or GPS to get them looking so neat but they don't, they had planks of wood and bits of string and one person shouted instructions to the rest. In 3 hours it was done, and it convinced the believers completely that the higher powers must be at work. I've tried searching for it online but you have to wade through so much true believer crap I've never found it. Until I can come up with a search term that eliminates the youtube dross you'll have to take my word for it but Nabby will think it's part of some CIA plot to discredit the Space Brothers anyway... Also, the dimensions of these circles are perfect. One mistake by someone and the entire crop circle is ruined. It is very improbable even a professional team of people could pull something as complex and perfect in a few hours of darkness. Uhuh. Do you remember Bill Witherspooon got a few friends to help him make a Mandala in the desert as an art project. This was spotted by the US air force and declared by experts to be impossible for humans to have made. Bill let the media hysterai Go for a while before fessing up. The lesson is that just because YOU couldn't do something doesn't mean that other people can't. Also, another feature of crop circles that is noticeable is the glossy appearance of them. This glossy or polished appearance exists on genuine crop circles because the all of the plants are broken at exactly a 90 degree angle. It is impossible that this could be done by humans. There have been reports of lights being seen above a field the night before a crop circle appears. It is a pretty big coincidence that there is a UFO sighting the night before a crop circle appears. There have man many reports of farmers or local residents seeing lights in a field moments before a crop circle forms.These occurrences are the most blatant evidence of extraterrestrial activity. Man-made crop circles appear often appear uneven and messy. They often seem dull compared to the real crop circles. This is because
[FairfieldLife] Re: Crop Circle Communication
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : This is what you wrote: That's a rather poor effort, wobbly lines everywhere. about a Crop Circle with only circles, no lines. The only lines here are wobbly lines from tractors which you claim is part of the design. A circle is also a line, just a curved one. Having demonstrated your inability to see even the obvious several times, I see no further need to comment on your posts. I can see how that would suit you. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Sorry Sal, you claimed the tracks from the tractor of the farmer were part of the Crop Circle design. There is therefore no reason to take anything you say on this matter seriously. Neat way of getting out of the debate, I never said any such thing! Seriously, claiming that something is proof that aliens want us to think they are there but without giving us any evidence does make me wonder where the idea came from in the first place.I f they reliably communicated that information to somebody then they have already admitted they exist so why the subterfuge with the crop stomping? I think someone has made up a cool sounding story to explain something they don't want to give credit to humans for because they couldn't do it themselves. Treading down wheat with a plank or empty garden roller isn't that hard, not as hard a building the pyramids was and they got blamed on aliens too. What you underestimate is human ingenuity and the desire to create things of beauty. But the alien stories are fun, even if they don't make any sense ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : An interesting phenomenon that has been happening throughout history is the crop circle. Since the early 1980's at any rate There are some that claim crop circles are created by aliens, some believe that they are created by the magnetic field of the Earth, yet some claim that the crop circle phenomenon is an elaborate hoax and they tend to use certain occurrences as evidence. While some crop circles are indeed hoaxes, there are some that cannot be explained in this fashion. The first noticeable feature of real crop circles is the complexity of them. Some of these crop circles are so detailed that it would take humans hours to create, not to mention they would have to be created in the dark to avoid attention. This is where the problem starts I think, the argument here is from personal incredulity I don't know how people do it, so it must be done by some sort of higher power. The BBC put an end to this myth making by hiring a mathematician to design a fiendishly complex crop circle which they then gave to a bunch of known circlemakers. The only caveat was that they had to make it under cover of darkness in one night somewhere in England. I had always assumed they used laser sights or GPS to get them looking so neat but they don't, they had planks of wood and bits of string and one person shouted instructions to the rest. In 3 hours it was done, and it convinced the believers completely that the higher powers must be at work. I've tried searching for it online but you have to wade through so much true believer crap I've never found it. Until I can come up with a search term that eliminates the youtube dross you'll have to take my word for it but Nabby will think it's part of some CIA plot to discredit the Space Brothers anyway... Also, the dimensions of these circles are perfect. One mistake by someone and the entire crop circle is ruined. It is very improbable even a professional team of people could pull something as complex and perfect in a few hours of darkness. Uhuh. Do you remember Bill Witherspooon got a few friends to help him make a Mandala in the desert as an art project. This was spotted by the US air force and declared by experts to be impossible for humans to have made. Bill let the media hysterai Go for a while before fessing up. The lesson is that just because YOU couldn't do something doesn't mean that other people can't. Also, another feature of crop circles that is noticeable is the glossy appearance of them. This glossy or polished appearance exists on genuine crop circles because the all of the plants are broken at exactly a 90 degree angle. It is impossible that this could be done by humans. There have been reports of lights being seen above a field the night before a crop circle appears. It is a pretty big coincidence that there is a UFO sighting the night before a crop circle appears. There have man many reports of farmers or local residents seeing lights in a field moments before a crop circle forms.These occurrences are the most blatant evidence of
Re: [FairfieldLife] 7/21-23 - Maharishi: A discussion of karma and not speaking ill of others
I don 't revile you as a true believer - you have gone beyond that to become a Willy Tex clone. From: steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 25, 2014 11:31 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] 7/21-23 - Maharishi: A discussion of karma and not speaking ill of others You do bring up a good point about wasting time, posting here Michael. I feel the exact same way about my posts in response to you. You are so far gone up the - TM is bad, MMY is bad, TMO is bad alley, that I also, know I am wasting my time to suggest that you see where in many cases your viewpoint is skewed. And now you will give me your rote reply about what a true believer I am, yada, yada, yada. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : I think this is rather dramatic. Am I free from the TM chains too? Or was I ever ensnared, do you think? Do you have to have been a teacher to have been ensnared? An MIU student, a meditator? It was meant to be dramatic, not to actually reflect my views - people like Nabby and Buck are the one wearing self-wrapped TM chains. From: awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 25, 2014 9:48 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] 7/21-23 - Maharishi: A discussion of karma and not speaking ill of others ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Share, go back to sleep. Any idea I posted about having a mission or role has been posted in jest. I got a lot of info here on FFL from the old time meditators and ex-meditators which is why I joined. I was coming to terms with my past with TM and was seeking information about Marshy and the Movement. I got it. I also was convinced by Rick's info that Marshy was a sexually active man (thanks Rick!). I also have seen nearly the entire range of TM effect here on FFL, from those who apparently live their lives by some TM baloney like choosing to travel only when the jyotish chart sez so, and believing the crap about vastu veda to those highly intelligent and erudite chaps such as Barry, Curtis and Sal who have freed themselves from their TM chains. I think this is rather dramatic. Am I free from the TM chains too? Or was I ever ensnared, do you think? Do you have to have been a teacher to have been ensnared? An MIU student, a meditator? I continue to post because I like wasting time, which is what telling people like Nabby who are utterly consumed by their illusions that Marshy was a fraud. He'll never believe it, nor will anyone else whose self esteem has to have that anchor of feeling associated with an ultimate superlative. (Marshy was enlightened, a great master, a saint - his knowledge is supreme knowledge and by doing his technique and believing his crap I am cozily snuggled in a blanket of belief that I partake of supreme sattva and I am like him blah blah blah.) I also like it when Sal posts some uniquely Brit stuff that makes me laugh. Sal is a hoot. From: Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 25, 2014 7:56 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] 7/21-23 - Maharishi: A discussion of karma and not speaking ill of others Michael, I don't think it's Steve's projection at all! You have stated that you have a mission wrt posting on FFL. But perhaps you see role and mission as two different things! Go figger...
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi: A discussion of karma and MJ, was Maharishi
What you refuse to recognize is that the Movement and Marshy have discredited themselves and continue to do so on a daily basis. I merely see what is. From: steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 25, 2014 11:38 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi: A discussion of karma and MJ, was Maharishi What's funny is that he will dig up some press release, or article that might be 30 or 40 years old, as though it is hot off the press. He finds a critical statement of someone who has done TM in the past, near or far, and trots it out as some new irrefutable piece of evidence. He seems to deny that he is on some crusade to discredit TM and the TMO. I suspect otherwise, and that many hours a day are spent on such a mission. His prerogative of course. But what happens if you pour all that attention into something and it fails to produce the desired result. I guess we'll see. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 7/24/2014 9:53 PM, steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: I'll try to keep that in mind Michael. But, when you go on record saying certain things, then you might be called upon to back them up. Whether you do, or not, is a different matter. Most of what MJ has posted is just rumor - things we've all heard before. He doesn't seem to be very big on references or citing any peer-reviewed scientific studies published in any learned journals about the mechanics of consciousness. He doesn't even seem to want to talk about anything except his prurient interest in the perverted sexual encounters of others - which he has mentioned at least a dozen times this month. Go figure. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : that's your projection on my role here, its not mine. I have no role on FFL - I'm just here. From: steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 1:59 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] 7/21-23 - Maharishi: A discussion of karma and not speaking ill of others Hey, it helps to know how you view things. So, since you don't buy in to any of this stuff, your role here is to just point out the idiocy of people who like to discuss such issues, or share their experiences, which you evidently believe have no credence? Just askin' I mean, it is a rather funny use of one's time.
[FairfieldLife] Good news from the Scorpion Nation: Astrology-loving MP seeks health answers in the stars
A Conservative MP has spoken of his belief in astrology and his desire to incorporate it into medicine. http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-28464009 http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-28464009
Re: [FairfieldLife] 7/21-23 - Maharishi: A discussion of karma and not speaking ill of others
soundofstillness, was it Blake who said something about it being better to kill s babe in its cradle than nurse unacted desires? Obviously he wasn't tuned into motherhood! On Friday, July 25, 2014 9:05 PM, soundofstilln...@ymail.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: TurquoiseBee I haven't thought about this quote long enough to have an opinion, but it is making me think about it, so thanks. At first glance, I suspect there may be some value in this quote. Does it mean that if we have buried our dream(s) our dream will begin to eat away at us from the inside out because the dream that might come in the form of a 'whispering' keeps speaking to us, because it wants to be born and can only be born through us.
[FairfieldLife] Satya Yuga start date
first day, you made it 2019 can be mass transformation to higher consciousness or mass death, what will we deserve, will we deserve to live on into the Golden Age?
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Satya Yuga start date
Only the people who don't believe in the TM mythos. From: sri...@ymail.com sri...@ymail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2014 8:51 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Satya Yuga start date first day, you made it 2019 can be mass transformation to higher consciousness or mass death, what will we deserve, will we deserve to live on into the Golden Age?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi: A discussion of karma and MJ, was Maharishi
You got to work really early today! This is a very impressive message for so early in the morning. Most people in the mid west haven't even had their first cup of coffee yet. We usually start checking or mail at 8:00 when the office opens. I guess when you're self-emplowed you can get up really early and start posting to social media sites at 5:00 AM or even 4:00 AM. Based on the time stamps of your messages you don't seem to be getting much sleep lately. Maybe you have a laptop on your bedside table. Some people just feel better when they have someone to talk to, I guess. On 7/26/2014 6:39 AM, Michael Jack son mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: What you refuse to recognize is that the Movement and Marshy have discredited themselves and continue to do so on a daily basis. I merely see what is. *From:* steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, July 25, 2014 11:38 PM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi: A discussion of karma and MJ, was Maharishi What's funny is that he will dig up some press release, or article that might be 30 or 40 years old, as though it is hot off the press. He finds a critical statement of someone who has done TM in the past, near or far, and trots it out as some new irrefutable piece of evidence. He seems to deny that he is on some crusade to discredit TM and the TMO. I suspect otherwise, and that many hours a day are spent on such a mission. His prerogative of course. But what happens if you pour all that attention into something and it fails to produce the desired result. I guess we'll see. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 7/24/2014 9:53 PM, steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: I'll try to keep that in mind Michael. But, when you go on record saying certain things, then you might be called upon to back them up. Whether you do, or not, is a different matter. Most of what MJ has posted is just rumor - things we've all heard before. He doesn't seem to be very big on references or citing any peer-reviewed scientific studies published in any learned journals about the mechanics of consciousness. He doesn't even seem to want to talk about anything except his prurient interest in the perverted sexual encounters of others - which he has mentioned at least a dozen times this month. Go figure. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... mailto:mjackson74@... wrote : that's your projection on my role here, its not mine. I have no role on FFL - I'm just here. *From:* steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] mailto:steve.sundur@...[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, July 24, 2014 1:59 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] 7/21-23 - Maharishi: A discussion of karma and not speaking ill of others Hey, it helps to know how you view things. So, since you don't buy in to any of this stuff, your role here is to just point out the idiocy of people who like to discuss such issues, or share their experiences, which you evidently believe have no credence? Just askin' I mean, it is a rather funny use of one's time.
Re: [FairfieldLife] 7/21-23 - Maharishi: A discussion of karma and not speaking ill of others
So, it's all about Willy Tex. Maybe I was mistaken - I thought it was all about Maharishi, karma, levitating off a stage and flying in a golden dome. Go figure. On 7/26/2014 6:38 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: I don 't revile you as a true believer - you have gone beyond that to become a Willy Tex clone. *From:* steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, July 25, 2014 11:31 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] 7/21-23 - Maharishi: A discussion of karma and not speaking ill of others You do bring up a good point about wasting time, posting here Michael. I feel the exact same way about my posts in response to you. You are so far gone up the - TM is bad, MMY is bad, TMO is bad alley, that I also, know I am wasting my time to suggest that you see where in many cases your viewpoint is skewed. And now you will give me your rote reply about what a true believer I am, yada, yada, yada. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : I think this is rather dramatic. Am I free from the TM chains too? Or was I ever ensnared, do you think? Do you have to have been a teacher to have been ensnared? An MIU student, a meditator? It was meant to be dramatic, not to actually reflect my views - people like Nabby and Buck are the one wearing self-wrapped TM chains. *From:* awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, July 25, 2014 9:48 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] 7/21-23 - Maharishi: A discussion of karma and not speaking ill of others ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Share, go back to sleep. Any idea I posted about having a mission or role has been posted in jest. I got a lot of info here on FFL from the old time meditators and ex-meditators which is why I joined. I was coming to terms with my past with TM and was seeking information about Marshy and the Movement. I got it. I also was convinced by Rick's info that Marshy was a sexually active man (thanks Rick!). I also have seen nearly the entire range of TM effect here on FFL, from those who apparently live their lives by some TM baloney like choosing to travel only when the jyotish chart sez so, and believing the crap about vastu veda to those highly intelligent and erudite chaps such as Barry, Curtis and Sal who have freed themselves from their TM chains. I think this is rather dramatic. Am I free from the TM chains too? Or was I ever ensnared, do you think? Do you have to have been a teacher to have been ensnared? An MIU student, a meditator? I continue to post because I like wasting time, which is what telling people like Nabby who are utterly consumed by their illusions that Marshy was a fraud. He'll never believe it, nor will anyone else whose self esteem has to have that anchor of feeling associated with an ultimate superlative. (Marshy was enlightened, a great master, a saint - his knowledge is supreme knowledge and by doing his technique and believing his crap I am cozily snuggled in a blanket of belief that I partake of supreme sattva and I am like him blah blah blah.) I also like it when Sal posts some uniquely Brit stuff that makes me laugh. Sal is a hoot. *From:* Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, July 25, 2014 7:56 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] 7/21-23 - Maharishi: A discussion of karma and not speaking ill of others Michael, I don't think it's Steve's projection at all! You have stated that you have a mission wrt posting on FFL. But perhaps you see role and mission as two different things! Go figger...
Re: [FairfieldLife] Satya Yuga start date
I see that Satya Yuga has somehow morphed in the minds of TBs into an either/or situation, depending on what one deserves. Some will deserve a Golden Age of higher consciousness, and others will deserve only mass death. Same old Apocalypse Believers, just in TM clothing. For some reason, this reminded me of a great song by Jackson Browne in which he deals with the real nature of Apocalypse Believers. If the shit ever does really hit the fan, *whoever survives* is going to invent reasons why they survived and others didn't. And all of them will be self-serving lies... Jackson Browne - Before The Deluge ( + lyrics 1974) Jackson Browne - Before The Deluge ( + lyrics 1974) View on www.youtube.com Preview by Yahoo From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2014 3:01 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Satya Yuga start date Only the people who don't believe in the TM mythos. From: sri...@ymail.com sri...@ymail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2014 8:51 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Satya Yuga start date first day, you made it 2019 can be mass transformation to higher consciousness or mass death, what will we deserve, will we deserve to live on into the Golden Age?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Crop Circle Communication
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : An interesting phenomenon that has been happening throughout history is the crop circle. Since the early 1980's at any rate There are some that claim crop circles are created by aliens, some believe that they are created by the magnetic field of the Earth, yet some claim that the crop circle phenomenon is an elaborate hoax and they tend to use certain occurrences as evidence. While some crop circles are indeed hoaxes, there are some that cannot be explained in this fashion. The first noticeable feature of real crop circles is the complexity of them. Some of these crop circles are so detailed that it would take humans hours to create, not to mention they would have to be created in the dark to avoid attention. This is where the problem starts I think, the argument here is from personal incredulity I don't know how people do it, so it must be done by some sort of higher power. The BBC put an end to this myth making by hiring a mathematician to design a fiendishly complex crop circle which they then gave to a bunch of known circlemakers. The only caveat was that they had to make it under cover of darkness in one night somewhere in England. I had always assumed they used laser sights or GPS to get them looking so neat but they don't, they had planks of wood and bits of string and one person shouted instructions to the rest. In 3 hours it was done, and it convinced the believers completely that the higher powers must be at work. I've tried searching for it online but you have to wade through so much true believer crap I've never found it. Until I can come up with a search term that eliminates the youtube dross you'll have to take my word for it but Nabby will think it's part of some CIA plot to discredit the Space Brothers anyway... Also, the dimensions of these circles are perfect. One mistake by someone and the entire crop circle is ruined. It is very improbable even a professional team of people could pull something as complex and perfect in a few hours of darkness. Uhuh. Do you remember Bill Witherspooon got a few friends to help him make a Mandala in the desert as an art project. This was spotted by the US air force and declared by experts to be impossible for humans to have made. Bill let the media hysterai Go for a while before fessing up. The lesson is that just because YOU couldn't do something doesn't mean that other people can't. I'm pretty sure I would be more inclined to believe in crop circles having been created by a space ship if there were scorch marks. As much as I like to think I am open and receptive to new and strange phenomenon, crop circles just don't quite do it for me. Many of them are beautiful and they work great as environmental art pieces but as an indicator of extraterrestrials landing so frequently on our planet (and so many in GB) I am highly sceptical. But hey, let the believers believe. It is fun to have something out of the ordinary to hold onto in one's life. And what would all those crop circle craftsmen do if the world stopped believing? They'd be out of work, that's what. Also, another feature of crop circles that is noticeable is the glossy appearance of them. This glossy or polished appearance exists on genuine crop circles because the all of the plants are broken at exactly a 90 degree angle. It is impossible that this could be done by humans. There have been reports of lights being seen above a field the night before a crop circle appears. It is a pretty big coincidence that there is a UFO sighting the night before a crop circle appears. There have man many reports of farmers or local residents seeing lights in a field moments before a crop circle forms.These occurrences are the most blatant evidence of extraterrestrial activity. Man-made crop circles appear often appear uneven and messy. They often seem dull compared to the real crop circles. This is because the even breaking of the plants cannot be copied by people. It is simply impossible. If you see one mistake in a crop circle then it is man-made. The extra-terrestrials have the technology to make them perfect which they have demonstrated over and over again. Why use Crop Circles? Extra-terrestrials use crop circles as a way of communicating when a civilization that has yet woken up to the Galactic neighborhood around them because it can be done without interfering with the free will of the people. Or in other words, it’s easy for people to believe that crop circles are created by other means. Crop circles are not blatant evidence of extra-terrestrial communication. We live in a free will universe which means that we have the right to believe in whatever we want to. Extra-terrestrial civilizations that have ascended into the 5th dimension have
Re: [FairfieldLife] 7/21-23 - Maharishi: A discussion of karma and not speaking ill of others
On 7/25/2014 10:31 PM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: You do bring up a good point about wasting time, posting here Michael. I feel the exact same way about my posts in response to you. You are so far gone up the - TM is bad, MMY is bad, TMO is bad alley, that I also, know I am wasting my time to suggest that you see where in many cases your viewpoint is skewed. And now you will give me your rote reply about what a true believer I am, yada, yada, yada. He is starting to sound very robotic the last couple of weeks. Apparently he is wearing himself down physicaly and not getting enough sleep. He has made no new contributions to the conversation for at least a month, yet he keeps posting the same thing over and over again to the same thread. Do you think he is still in an acute trance-induction state or has he developed a long-term disassociation? However, he does seem to be prone to suggestion, so your efforts here are probably not a total waste. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : I think this is rather dramatic. Am I free from the TM chains too? Or was I ever ensnared, do you think? Do you have to have been a teacher to have been ensnared? An MIU student, a meditator? It was meant to be dramatic, not to actually reflect my views - people like Nabby and Buck are the one wearing self-wrapped TM chains. *From:* awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, July 25, 2014 9:48 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] 7/21-23 - Maharishi: A discussion of karma and not speaking ill of others ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Share, go back to sleep. Any idea I posted about having a mission or role has been posted in jest. I got a lot of info here on FFL from the old time meditators and ex-meditators which is why I joined. I was coming to terms with my past with TM and was seeking information about Marshy and the Movement. I got it. I also was convinced by Rick's info that Marshy was a sexually active man (thanks Rick!). I also have seen nearly the entire range of TM effect here on FFL, from those who apparently live their lives by some TM baloney like choosing to travel only when the jyotish chart sez so, and believing the crap about vastu veda to those highly intelligent and erudite chaps such as Barry, Curtis and Sal who have freed themselves from their TM chains. I think this is rather dramatic. Am I free from the TM chains too? Or was I ever ensnared, do you think? Do you have to have been a teacher to have been ensnared? An MIU student, a meditator? I continue to post because I like wasting time, which is what telling people like Nabby who are utterly consumed by their illusions that Marshy was a fraud. He'll never believe it, nor will anyone else whose self esteem has to have that anchor of feeling associated with an ultimate superlative. (Marshy was enlightened, a great master, a saint - his knowledge is supreme knowledge and by doing his technique and believing his crap I am cozily snuggled in a blanket of belief that I partake of supreme sattva and I am like him blah blah blah.) I also like it when Sal posts some uniquely Brit stuff that makes me laugh. Sal is a hoot. *From:* Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, July 25, 2014 7:56 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] 7/21-23 - Maharishi: A discussion of karma and not speaking ill of others Michael, I don't think it's Steve's projection at all! You have stated that you have a mission wrt posting on FFL. But perhaps you see role and mission as two different things! Go figger...
[FairfieldLife] Re: Crop Circle Communication
I'm pretty sure I would be more inclined to believe in crop circles having been created by a space ship if there were scorch marks. Why would there be scorch marks if our Space Brothers were involved ? There are however plenty of other interesting stuff found within the Circles, high levels of electromagnetism being one. Amongst many groups doing research this American group of scientists were the first: BLT Research - Crop Circle Science http://www.bltresearch.com/ http://www.bltresearch.com/ BLT Research - Crop Circle Science http://www.bltresearch.com/ The BLT Research Team -- scientific documentation and reports of physical changes in plants and soils at crop circle sites. View on www.bltresearch.com http://www.bltresearch.com/ Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : An interesting phenomenon that has been happening throughout history is the crop circle. Since the early 1980's at any rate There are some that claim crop circles are created by aliens, some believe that they are created by the magnetic field of the Earth, yet some claim that the crop circle phenomenon is an elaborate hoax and they tend to use certain occurrences as evidence. While some crop circles are indeed hoaxes, there are some that cannot be explained in this fashion. The first noticeable feature of real crop circles is the complexity of them. Some of these crop circles are so detailed that it would take humans hours to create, not to mention they would have to be created in the dark to avoid attention. This is where the problem starts I think, the argument here is from personal incredulity I don't know how people do it, so it must be done by some sort of higher power. The BBC put an end to this myth making by hiring a mathematician to design a fiendishly complex crop circle which they then gave to a bunch of known circlemakers. The only caveat was that they had to make it under cover of darkness in one night somewhere in England. I had always assumed they used laser sights or GPS to get them looking so neat but they don't, they had planks of wood and bits of string and one person shouted instructions to the rest. In 3 hours it was done, and it convinced the believers completely that the higher powers must be at work. I've tried searching for it online but you have to wade through so much true believer crap I've never found it. Until I can come up with a search term that eliminates the youtube dross you'll have to take my word for it but Nabby will think it's part of some CIA plot to discredit the Space Brothers anyway... Also, the dimensions of these circles are perfect. One mistake by someone and the entire crop circle is ruined. It is very improbable even a professional team of people could pull something as complex and perfect in a few hours of darkness. Uhuh. Do you remember Bill Witherspooon got a few friends to help him make a Mandala in the desert as an art project. This was spotted by the US air force and declared by experts to be impossible for humans to have made. Bill let the media hysterai Go for a while before fessing up. The lesson is that just because YOU couldn't do something doesn't mean that other people can't. I'm pretty sure I would be more inclined to believe in crop circles having been created by a space ship if there were scorch marks. As much as I like to think I am open and receptive to new and strange phenomenon, crop circles just don't quite do it for me. Many of them are beautiful and they work great as environmental art pieces but as an indicator of extraterrestrials landing so frequently on our planet (and so many in GB) I am highly sceptical. But hey, let the believers believe. It is fun to have something out of the ordinary to hold onto in one's life. And what would all those crop circle craftsmen do if the world stopped believing? They'd be out of work, that's what. Also, another feature of crop circles that is noticeable is the glossy appearance of them. This glossy or polished appearance exists on genuine crop circles because the all of the plants are broken at exactly a 90 degree angle. It is impossible that this could be done by humans. There have been reports of lights being seen above a field the night before a crop circle appears. It is a pretty big coincidence that there is a UFO sighting the night before a crop circle appears. There have man many reports of farmers or local residents seeing lights in a field moments before a crop circle forms.These occurrences are the most blatant evidence of extraterrestrial activity. Man-made crop circles appear often appear uneven and messy. They often seem dull compared to the real crop circles. This is because the even
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi: A discussion of karma and MJ, was Maharishi
On 7/25/2014 10:38 PM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: What's funny is that he will dig up some press release, or article that might be 30 or 40 years old, as though it is hot off the press. At this point we've probably discussed almost all the important points, either on this or Google Groups. Since he is far removed from the movement anymore by at least a thousand miles and thirty years, he's got nothing much to offer as far as insider news. Mostly he is just spouting off because of some long ago slight he feels he incurred. Almost none of the rumors he has posted turn out to be factual - I doubt if he actually ever met any of the MIU administrators, or even very many students. Usually college students aren't encouraged to carouse around with the kitchen staff - students are supposed to be studying so they can graduate. Everyone was probably glad to see him go, if his messages here are any indication of his level of understanding.Apparently he had trouble with even practicing a simple meditation - the real problem was probably his big pie hole. Go figure. He finds a critical statement of someone who has done TM in the past, near or far, and trots it out as some new irrefutable piece of evidence. He seems to deny that he is on some crusade to discredit TM and the TMO. I suspect otherwise, and that many hours a day are spent on such a mission. His prerogative of course. But what happens if you pour all that attention into something and it fails to produce the desired result. I guess we'll see. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 7/24/2014 9:53 PM, steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: I'll try to keep that in mind Michael. But, when you go on record saying certain things, then you might be called upon to back them up. Whether you do, or not, is a different matter. Most of what MJ has posted is just rumor - things we've all heard before. He doesn't seem to be very big on references or citing any peer-reviewed scientific studies published in any learned journals about the mechanics of consciousness. He doesn't even seem to want to talk about anything except his prurient interest in the perverted sexual encounters of others - which he has mentioned at least a dozen times this month. Go figure. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... mailto:mjackson74@... wrote : that's your projection on my role here, its not mine. I have no role on FFL - I'm just here. *From:* steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] mailto:steve.sundur@...[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, July 24, 2014 1:59 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] 7/21-23 - Maharishi: A discussion of karma and not speaking ill of others Hey, it helps to know how you view things. So, since you don't buy in to any of this stuff, your role here is to just point out the idiocy of people who like to discuss such issues, or share their experiences, which you evidently believe have no credence? Just askin' I mean, it is a rather funny use of one's time.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Satya Yuga start date
After reading all the Logsang Rampa books I could get my hands on way back when, I discovered Autobiography of a Yogi. One of these days I will dip into that book again. In the meantime here are some thoughts of David Frawley's on Sri Yukteswar on the Yugas. Keys to the Yugas or Cycles of the Ages: Subyugas in the Sri Yukteswar Yuga Cycle http://www.vedanet.com/2012/06/13/keys-to-the-yugas-or-cycles-of-the-ages-subyugas-in-the-sri-yukteswar-yuga-cycle/ http://www.vedanet.com/2012/06/13/keys-to-the-yugas-or-cycles-of-the-ages-subyugas-in-the-sri-yukteswar-yuga-cycle/
Re: [FairfieldLife] 7/21-23 - Maharishi: A discussion of karma and not speaking ill of others
On 7/25/2014 11:01 PM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: kind of shows the difference of a person who progresses along, and another person who remains stuck in the past. You can tell if a person is old if he always talks about where he has been, instead of talking about where he is going. hoo boy, am I on a wasting time binge right now! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : You are right - you have changed my life. I shall now have as my mission the task of telling you that you are handling your horses incorrectly. Thanks for expanding my world!!! I am so happy now! I've changed your life and I'm right? Sorry, don't understand that. And if you want to tell me I am handling my horses correctly or incorrectly you are welcome to do that; I pay people to teach me all the time - other trainers and clinicians are something I access constantly in order to improve what I do in my sport. *From:* awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, July 25, 2014 11:04 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] 7/21-23 - Maharishi: A discussion of karma and not speaking ill of others ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : I think this is rather dramatic. Am I free from the TM chains too? Or was I ever ensnared, do you think? Do you have to have been a teacher to have been ensnared? An MIU student, a meditator? It was meant to be dramatic, not to actually reflect my views - people like Nabby and Buck are the one wearing self-wrapped TM chains. Ah, but this is their choice, not to be ensnared, but to follow and believe in what they do. That is their right, their journey and, for all anyone one knows, the best thing for them. As much as you want to warn people and make them come to believe what you believe it will probably not happen and probably shouldn't. There is no more MMY to support and give money to. The Movement is in a never-ending transition just like everything else. The past is the past and the future is unknown. Let Nabby and Buck have their beliefs and their lives to live as they will. I can think of far worse things to believe in and to support. The TM Movement is a very small fry indeed. *From:* awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, July 25, 2014 9:48 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] 7/21-23 - Maharishi: A discussion of karma and not speaking ill of others ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Share, go back to sleep. Any idea I posted about having a mission or role has been posted in jest. I got a lot of info here on FFL from the old time meditators and ex-meditators which is why I joined. I was coming to terms with my past with TM and was seeking information about Marshy and the Movement. I got it. I also was convinced by Rick's info that Marshy was a sexually active man (thanks Rick!). I also have seen nearly the entire range of TM effect here on FFL, from those who apparently live their lives by some TM baloney like choosing to travel only when the jyotish chart sez so, and believing the crap about vastu veda to those highly intelligent and erudite chaps such as Barry, Curtis and Sal who have freed themselves from their TM chains. I think this is rather dramatic. Am I free from the TM chains too? Or was I ever ensnared, do you think? Do you have to have been a teacher to have been ensnared? An MIU student, a meditator? I continue to post because I like wasting time, which is what telling people like Nabby who are utterly consumed by their illusions that Marshy was a fraud. He'll never believe it, nor will anyone else whose self esteem has to have that anchor of feeling associated with an ultimate superlative. (Marshy was enlightened, a great master, a saint - his knowledge is supreme knowledge and by doing his technique and believing his crap I am cozily snuggled in a blanket of belief that I partake of supreme sattva and I am like him blah blah blah.) I also like it when Sal posts some uniquely Brit stuff that makes me laugh. Sal is a hoot.
[FairfieldLife] Research on Crop Circles
Naturally most of these are from the Home of the lost Empire but the oldest is American: http://www.bltresearch.com/ http://www.bltresearch.com/ Colin Andrews Official Web Site. Crop Circles, UFO, Consciousness http://www.colinandrews.net/ http://www.colinandrews.net/ Colin Andrews Official Web Site. Crop Circles, UFO, C... http://www.colinandrews.net/ Colin Andrews website - home page. Study of Consciousness,Crop Circles, UFOs and Photography. View on www.colinandrews.net http://www.colinandrews.net/ Preview by Yahoo Crop Circles - The Latest UK Crop Circle Photos - Temporary Temples http://www.temporarytemples.co.uk/ http://www.temporarytemples.co.uk/ Crop Circles - The Latest UK Crop Circle Photos - Tempor... http://www.temporarytemples.co.uk/ The Very Latest Crop Circles, Massive High Quality Crop Circle Image Library, Online Store, Crop Circle Blogs and Formation Visitor Guides. View on www.temporarytemple... http://www.temporarytemples.co.uk/ Preview by Yahoo Swirled News http://www.swirlednews.com/ http://www.swirlednews.com/ Swirled News http://www.swirlednews.com/ Crop circles, corn circles, crop formations - Swirled News gives you the latest news, reviews, controversial opinion and incisive commentary on this amazing phenome... View on www.swirlednews.com http://www.swirlednews.com/ Preview by Yahoo crop circle formations designs, research, information, resources, theories, non man made, articles, evidence, human consciousness http://www.cropcircleanswers.com/ http://www.cropcircleanswers.com/ crop circle formations designs, research, information, r... http://www.cropcircleanswers.com/ crop circle formations, designs, information, locations, research, resources, articles, sherwood, crop photographs, videos, circle evidence View on www.cropcircleanswe... http://www.cropcircleanswers.com/ Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Satya Yuga start date
Yeah I wondered about that myself. I don't recall anyone ever saying there would be some big purge of all the undeserving folk before the full sunshine of Sat Yuga begins to shine. This seems to be part Indian myth, part Marshy's spin on Indian myth coupled with New Age enthusiasm tempered by a healthy dose of Nazi-type elitism. From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2014 9:18 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Satya Yuga start date I see that Satya Yuga has somehow morphed in the minds of TBs into an either/or situation, depending on what one deserves. Some will deserve a Golden Age of higher consciousness, and others will deserve only mass death. Same old Apocalypse Believers, just in TM clothing. For some reason, this reminded me of a great song by Jackson Browne in which he deals with the real nature of Apocalypse Believers. If the shit ever does really hit the fan, *whoever survives* is going to invent reasons why they survived and others didn't. And all of them will be self-serving lies... Jackson Browne - Before The Deluge ( + lyrics 1974) Jackson Browne - Before The Deluge ( + lyrics 1974) View on www.youtube.com Preview by Yahoo From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2014 3:01 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Satya Yuga start date Only the people who don't believe in the TM mythos. From: sri...@ymail.com sri...@ymail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2014 8:51 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Satya Yuga start date first day, you made it 2019 can be mass transformation to higher consciousness or mass death, what will we deserve, will we deserve to live on into the Golden Age?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Crop Circle Communication
'Stoned wallabies make crop circles' Australian wallabies are eating opium poppies and creating crop circles as they hop around as high as a kite, a government official has said. Lara Giddings, the attorney general for the island state of Tasmania, said the kangaroo-like marsupials were getting into poppy fields grown for medicine. She was reporting to a parliamentary hearing on security for poppy crops. Australia supplies about 50% of the world's legally-grown opium used to make morphine and other painkillers. “ We have a problem with wallabies entering poppy fields, getting as high as a kite and going around in circles. Then they crash ” Lara Giddings, government official The one interesting bit that I found recently in one of my briefs on the poppy industry was that we have a problem with wallabies entering poppy fields, getting as high as a kite and going around in circles, Lara Giddings told the hearing. Then they crash, she added. We see crop circles in the poppy industry from wallabies that are high. Rick Rockliff, a spokesman for poppy producer Tasmanian Alkaloids, said the wallaby incursions were not very common, but other animals had also been spotted in the poppy fields acting unusually. There have been many stories about sheep that have eaten some of the poppies after harvesting and they all walk around in circles, he added. Retired Tasmanian poppy farmer Lyndley Chopping also said he had seen strange behaviour from wallabies in his fields. They would just come and eat some poppies and they would go away, he told ABC News. They'd come back again and they would do their circle work in the paddock. Some people believe the mysterious circles that appear in fields in a number of countries are created by aliens. Others put them down to a human hoax. Here are some of your not so serious responses. I have seen a stoned wallaby but I don't know about them making crop circles. The one I saw was slurring his words and asking me for a dollar as he was trying to get the boat to see his brother in New Zealand - he looked in no mood to be formulating a series of complex agricultural design patterns. I could be wrong - they might have masterminded the twin tower attacks, who really knows? Dijon, Hobart, Tasmania This has to be the funniest headline of the year so far. Trippy Skippy. Arcadian, Oxford My cat Monkey, a Tonkinese cat, started to walk in circles mysteriously about two months ago. My suspicion is the radar from the two police cars parked in front of my apartment building has an effect or sonar like sound that humans cannot hear may have an effect. I was struck by this news article and had to respond. Barbara Ann Levy, West Palm Beach, Florida I resent this report that we are high as a kite and making crop circles! I haven't been stoned since 1971. A few young hoppers eat the wrong plant and you trash our species in the news. What's this world coming to! Wally Baby, Australia Bush I saw a whole bunch of them dingos going mad in my corn field only last night. I'm not sure if they were high or not but I'm pretty sure they were. One of them had a ghettoblaster and they were listening to some kind of fast electronic music. Lock 'em up and throw away the key, that's what I say! Roger, Melbourne I was travelling in Tasmania in the summer of last year and witnessed what I believed as dancing wallabies. I was intoxicated at the time and so put it down to the poppies I had consumed earlier that day. However after reading this article that experience made a lot of sense. Alan Rees , Tring Bumped into a couple o' stoned wallabies coming out the co-op up Lochgelly high street the other night. This seems to be a problem on both sides of the globe. John Smith, Lochgelly, Fife, Scotland I've lived in Tasmania for many years. Not only do wallabies congregate in poppy fields, but also on the local golf courses. They do this mainly at night and I can only assume they're playing several rounds of golf while avoiding greens fees. You only need to be really worried when one of the stoned wallabies gets into a golf buggy. John Larson, Launceston, Tasmania, Australia I want to know who sold out the wallabies? Who's the narc? My guess is the platypus, he is such an odd duck. Chet Guest, St. Paul, Minnesota USA Don't know about crop circles but I saw one today trying to jack a car, presumably trying to get enough together for his next fix. Greg Corcoran, Durham, UK The question should be whether or not those law breaking wallabies should be brought to justice for indulging in illegal substances. The law makes no exceptions for no-one no matter what their excuse is or even what species they may be. They are not setting an example for their joeys nor for any other marsupials and I fear this could become an epidemic of outback size proportions. Phil, Edinburgh Story from BBC NEWS:
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Crop Circle Communication
Crop circles 'created using GPS, lasers and microwaves' Crop circles are now made using lasers, microwaves and GPS technology to create ever larger and more elaborate patterns, scientist claims as days of using planks and rope long gone By Nick Collins, Science Correspondent 7:30AM BST 01 Aug 2011 Crop circles have confounded farmers and scientists alike since they were first recorded in the 17th century, and now physicist Professor Richard Taylor says the phenomenon is growing alongside advances in technology. The complexity of modern patterns, which can involve up to 2,000 individual and elaborately arranged shapes, suggest that clandestine groups of hoaxers must use sophisticated methods to complete their projects in a single night. GPS systems enables the artists to cover vast spaces with absolute precision, while microwaves can be used to flatten large numbers of stalks at great speeds, it was claimed. An analysis of evidence in the Physics World journal reported that researchers had used magnetrons – tubes which use electricity and magnetism to generate intense heat – to mimic the physical changes in flattened stalks in some circles, which are linked to radiation. Prof Taylor, director of the Materials Science Institute at the University of Oregon, said the findings suggest that crop circle artists may be using magnetrons, found in microwave ovens, or similar technology to complete their detailed patterns in the space of a few hours. Traditionally planks of wood known as stompers and lengths of rope have been used to make accurate patterns in fields, with designers even using bar stools to hop from one flattened section to another. Other theories of how the patterns appeared over the centuries include freak wind patterns, rolling hedgehogs, copulating couples and, in a 1678 report, the actions of a mowing devil. More recently, conspiracy theorists have linked the patterns to UFOs or other alien activity, though some hoaxers have admitted to deliberately imitating flying saucer nests. More than 10,000 examples have been documented in the past 500 years, with one new pattern now appearing somewhere in the world every summer evening. Prof Taylor said: “Crop-circle artists are not going to give up their secrets easily. This summer, unknown artists will venture into the countryside close to your homes and carry out their craft, safe in the knowledge that they are continuing the legacy of the most science-oriented art movement in history.” Matin Durrani, Editor of Physics World, said: “It may seem odd for a physicist such as Taylor to be studying crop circles, but then he is merely trying to act like any good scientist – examining the evidence for the design and construction of crop circles without getting carried away by the sideshow of UFOs, hoaxes and aliens.” From: awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2014 9:43 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Crop Circle Communication ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : An interesting phenomenon that has been happening throughout history is the crop circle. Since the early 1980's at any rate There are some that claim crop circles are created by aliens, some believe that they are created by the magnetic field of the Earth, yet some claim that the crop circle phenomenon is an elaborate hoax and they tend to use certain occurrences as evidence. While some crop circles are indeed hoaxes, there are some that cannot be explained in this fashion. The first noticeable feature of real crop circles is the complexity of them. Some of these crop circles are so detailed that it would take humans hours to create, not to mention they would have to be created in the dark to avoid attention. This is where the problem starts I think, the argument here is from personal incredulity I don't know how people do it, so it must be done by some sort of higher power. The BBC put an end to this myth making by hiring a mathematician to design a fiendishly complex crop circle which they then gave to a bunch of known circlemakers. The only caveat was that they had to make it under cover of darkness in one night somewhere in England. I had always assumed they used laser sights or GPS to get them looking so neat but they don't, they had planks of wood and bits of string and one person shouted instructions to the rest. In 3 hours it was done, and it convinced the believers completely that the higher powers must be at work. I've tried searching for it online but you have to wade through so much true believer crap I've never found it. Until I can come up with a search term that eliminates the youtube dross you'll have to take my word for it but Nabby
Re: [FairfieldLife] 7/21-23 - Maharishi: A discussion of karma and not speaking ill of others
Share Long soundofstillness, was it Blake who said something about it being better to kill s babe in its cradle than nurse unacted desires? Obviously he wasn't tuned into motherhood! Something like that. Was TM the inspiration for TM? Every man has a vocation to be someone: in order to fulfill this vocation he can only be one person: himself. - Thomas Merton ps. I had this 'insight' in this morning's meditation. A kind of 'selfie' small 'm'ahavakya. When I began meditating I heard about the knower, process of knowing, object of perception. So the mantra was the object, transcending/settling was the process and if there was no object and no process, that left the knower which we wouldn't realize until we were thinking, oh, there was no mantra and no thoughts. Yippee! I also heard that these three amigos could become one, which I couldn't quite figure out, at least from my experience. Then this morning I had this small 'r'ealization (of what I've experienced for who knows how long) that the object of attention, the process of refining, and awareness are one, all at the same time. One doesn't have to have no mantra or nor thoughts to 'transcend' thought, much like a table and chairs don't have to be removed from a room to realize the space. Or something like that, I'm not explaining very well. I suppose as MJ suggests, it's part of the TM mythos that different states have different realities and different teachings. But I can hear everyone reading this saying . . . Geez, what took you so long!
Re: [FairfieldLife] ISIS Militants are Asking for It
On 7/25/2014 4:02 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: In the past few weeks they have done hideous acts that would be considered barbaric, including threats to President Obama which could be interpreted as threats to the US homeland. They are members of one big family - Hezboallah, Hamas, and ISIS and the Muslim Brotherhood. There is only one country in the whole of the Middle East that has a secular government, that supports democratic elections, freedom of religion, freedom of speech, and freedom of the press - Israel. In contrast, there are at least thirteen countries in the Middle East that support radical Islamic extremism. Within a year, I predict that the entire Middlle East will be involved in a civil war - Jordan is probably next on their list. Go figure. 'Klavan's One-State Solution: Give the Middle East to the Jews' http://youtu.be/uIEeiDjdUuU http://youtu.be/uIEeiDjdUuU http://dailycaller.com/2014/07/24/isis-militants-destroy-biblical-site/ In astrological terms, Mars is now in conjunction with Saturn in Libra which indicate the possibility of war or violence erupting in the world. We can only assume that this will happen in Iraq specifically. As such, I believe the US will decide to use war planes and missiles to bomb specific targets in areas held by ISIS. If this doesn't work, Obama may have to send American troops back in Iraq to squelch the cancer that's spreading in the Middle East in the form of ISIS. President Obama does not need to have congressional approval to do this since the previous authority to use force in Iraq has not ended.
Re: [FairfieldLife] 7/21-23 - Maharishi: A discussion of karma and not speaking ill of others
soundofstillness, life is the inspiration for more life maybe? And thank you for sharing very cool experience, selfie mahavakya which I thought you explained very well. Happy First Day of Sat Yuga. At least according to the Shrimad Bhagavatam. I do think that one big reason Maharishi brought out the sidhis, other than that people started popping out of their chairs during lectures, was to shorten the length of time TMers had to be in that dry, flat CC. He has said that with practice of the TMSP one would develop all the higher states simultaneously. PLUS, I think different nervous systems will have slightly different experiences of CC, GC, etc. Probably too big differences bt men and women enlightenment wise. I could be wrong (-: On Saturday, July 26, 2014 9:37 AM, soundofstilln...@ymail.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Share Long soundofstillness, was it Blake who said something about it being better to kill s babe in its cradle than nurse unacted desires? Obviously he wasn't tuned into motherhood! Something like that. Was TM the inspiration for TM? Every man has a vocation to be someone: in order to fulfill this vocation he can only be one person: himself. - Thomas Merton ps. I had this 'insight' in this morning's meditation. A kind of 'selfie' small 'm'ahavakya. When I began meditating I heard about the knower, process of knowing, object of perception. So the mantra was the object, transcending/settling was the process and if there was no object and no process, that left the knower which we wouldn't realize until we were thinking, oh, there was no mantra and no thoughts. Yippee! I also heard that these three amigos could become one, which I couldn't quite figure out, at least from my experience. Then this morning I had this small 'r'ealization (of what I've experienced for who knows how long) that the object of attention, the process of refining, and awareness are one, all at the same time. One doesn't have to have no mantra or nor thoughts to 'transcend' thought, much like a table and chairs don't have to be removed from a room to realize the space. Or something like that, I'm not explaining very well. I suppose as MJ suggests, it's part of the TM mythos that different states have different realities and different teachings. But I can hear everyone reading this saying . . . Geez, what took you so long!
Re: [FairfieldLife] 7/21-23 - Maharishi: A discussion of karma and not speaking ill of others
Xeno, thank you for taking the time to reply. As much as I love logic and Mr. Spock, in terms of considering what someone says or writes, I tend to go more by how someone's energy feels to me. I notice that I tend to enjoy more settled expressions, especially if they're positive. But also enjoy dry wit and commentary. I've come to the conclusion that online relationships and communities are uncharted territory for most of us. So I take everything presented here with a grain of salt. I think it's silly for people to comment on the TMO, etc. when they haven't been around it for decades! I also think that ragging on anyone and anything over and over is an indication that a person has unresolved childhood issues and has found a safe scapegoat. I could be wrong. And if I am, I'm sure life will straighten me out. Eventually (-: On Friday, July 25, 2014 1:22 PM, anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Share, But logically, this is incorrect. While psychologically one might doubt a person's statement because of his/her known character and reliability, the truth of a statement made by someone can only logically be determined if it corresponds to an actual fact. The fact the person is a scoundrel and liar does not prove a statement is false. This is the classic ad hominem argument, where you attack the character of the source of the statement to supposedly prove a statement is false. Except this does not prove the statement false. It may make you assume the statement is false, but an assumption is not a fact. It is an emotional misdirection, classically used by politicians all the time. The reverse of this argument is pro hominem, 'argument for the man' in which one supposes a statement is true because so-and-so made it. It is equally invalid. That Maharishi was something of a scoundrel seems fairly well established, but the evidence is from my point of view largely circumstantial. It has psychological weight but further investigation, which I certainly will not carry out, would be needed to substantiate it. That similar things occurred with figures in the movement that I was more familiar with adds to that psychological weight and indicates a certain pattern of behaviour within the upper echelons of the movement that filters down. The real question to answer is how much did these shortcomings curtail the effectiveness of his stated primary mission. If his primary mission was clandestine, say to accumulate money, then probably it did curtail the stated primary mission. As far as it affected me, I do not think it had much effect on any benefits I received, though I made it a point to absolutely minimise expenditures to the movement, making no donations whatever, and only spending for something I felt would be valuable to me, such as residence courses, which I did in the first few years of learning TM. Most of what the movement has offered beyond TM I felt was worthless, such as jyotish, stapatyaveda, most of ayurveda, and a host of similar things which rode in on the coattails of people's fascination with TM. I found TM most useful, though now, in my fifth decade, its utility has worn very thin, it has served its purpose. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Thanks! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Fleetwood, this is imo beautifully articulated. Thanks... On Friday, July 25, 2014 7:21 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: [Attachment(s) from fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] included below] Steve's point is a good one - How's that working for you? There are several here, who take great delight, and are very conscientious, about pointing out what they consider flaws in Maharishi's system of teaching meditation, and his considerable comments on spiritual growth. There is nothing wrong with being critical, and calling bullshit, when it is apparent, but the process only works favorably, if the same scrutiny is applied to the individual making the judgments, and doing the nit-picking. In other words, a person's credibility, in making these ongoing negative assessments about Maharishi's system, is only solid, if that same critical eye is turned on the person, by his or herself. If nothing is found wanting, if there are no deep desires going unfulfilled, if one's life is spent in ever increasing ease and delight, and success, then, sure, have at it. Turn a critical eye, and voice all of that, about Maharishi's system, over and over and over again. However, if there are deep needs of the heart going unfulfilled, or personal domains that need work, better to spend time working those out, vs. this endless diatribe, against all things Maharishi. Otherwise it looks like a bad day at work, led to kicking the dog, at home, over and over and over again, if you catch my drift.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi: A discussion of karma and MJ, was Maharishi
Richard, it would be great to meet you and Rita if you ever drive north (-: I think you both would enjoy FF expecially if you visit during Art Walk. On Friday, July 25, 2014 1:50 PM, 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: On 7/25/2014 9:33 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Richard, talk about impressions and lines on granite! You have to consider your target audience, Share, so you need to understand that my primary debate is with an anonymous informant whose last contact with the TMO is probably close to forty years ago by now. And the other guy, when he was in contact with the movement, worked in food service at the campus student cafeteria twenty or more years ago. That doesn't give us much to go on as far being an informant. Lately I've been trying to keep things on their level - bars and sex. Otherwise it gets too complicated for the other informants. So, it's really refreshing to actually hear from someone who actually know what's going on up there. Thanks. On Friday, July 25, 2014 7:50 AM, 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: On 7/25/2014 6:51 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: I was being somewhat facetious in my commentary on the origins of so-called vedic wisdom, but I bet I am not far off the mark You got to work really early this morning! Most of the time I start responding to email at 8:00 o'clock when we open the office, but you seem to get up around 5:00 AM and open up the shop. Apparently you just can't wait to post something about the Maharishi. That guy seems to have really had an big impression on you! You may be one of his biggest fans. Go figure. From: steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 10:36 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] 7/21-23 - Maharishi: A discussion of karma and not speaking ill of others I know I commented on this before, but going through things again, more leisurely, this is just a too funny analysis by Michael of those who have chosen a different path. God love him. Somehow Michael, you regularly make the exception the rule. And you are always so sure of yourself. Begs the Dr. Phil question, How's that working for you
Re: [FairfieldLife] Satya Yuga start date
No, we're in Kali Yuga and will be for centuries. What you are being told works something like dashas in Jyotish with Kali Yuga being like the maha dasha and what you are being told is a Sat Yuga is either like an antar dasha or possibly even like a pratyantar dasha. IOW given the structure of nature a sub-sub yuga and much weaker in effect than the maha yuga but just colors things a bit. These are just patterns you can observe studying history. On 07/26/2014 05:51 AM, sri...@ymail.com wrote: first day, you made it 2019 can be mass transformation to higher consciousness or mass death, what will we deserve, will we deserve to live on into the Golden Age?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Satya Yuga start date
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : first day, you made it 2019 can be mass transformation to higher consciousness or mass death, what will we deserve, will we deserve to live on into the Golden Age? I distinctly remember Marshy ushering in sat yuga about 8 years ago. It was one of his final fits of Ozymandianism, anyone interested in gaining maximum karma points had to report to the local centre and meditate as the full moon rose. I have to say I haven't noticed much of a difference between the previous age of chaos and the new age of perfection but if you're going to change the rules of the game to extermination to those who deserve it then I wasn't going to notice was I?
Re: [FairfieldLife] 7/21-23 - Maharishi: A discussion of karma and not speaking ill of others
Joke Rimshot - Punch Line Drum Sound Effect https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeMwHZrUbVA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeMwHZrUbVA Joke Rimshot - Punch Line Drum Sound Effect https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeMwHZrUbVA Follow up a joke (or lack thereof) with this Rimshot Sound Effect! Many more sound effects at http://SoundFXNow.com Millions of Sound Effects: http://bit.ly/... View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeMwHZrUbVA Preview by Yahoo Your ultimate insult, which you find a way to repackage each day. Wait, come to think of it, Repackaging pretty much describes all you posts here! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : I don 't revile you as a true believer - you have gone beyond that to become a Willy Tex clone. From: steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 25, 2014 11:31 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] 7/21-23 - Maharishi: A discussion of karma and not speaking ill of others You do bring up a good point about wasting time, posting here Michael. I feel the exact same way about my posts in response to you. You are so far gone up the - TM is bad, MMY is bad, TMO is bad alley, that I also, know I am wasting my time to suggest that you see where in many cases your viewpoint is skewed. And now you will give me your rote reply about what a true believer I am, yada, yada, yada. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : I think this is rather dramatic. Am I free from the TM chains too? Or was I ever ensnared, do you think? Do you have to have been a teacher to have been ensnared? An MIU student, a meditator? It was meant to be dramatic, not to actually reflect my views - people like Nabby and Buck are the one wearing self-wrapped TM chains. From: awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 25, 2014 9:48 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] 7/21-23 - Maharishi: A discussion of karma and not speaking ill of others ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Share, go back to sleep. Any idea I posted about having a mission or role has been posted in jest. I got a lot of info here on FFL from the old time meditators and ex-meditators which is why I joined. I was coming to terms with my past with TM and was seeking information about Marshy and the Movement. I got it. I also was convinced by Rick's info that Marshy was a sexually active man (thanks Rick!). I also have seen nearly the entire range of TM effect here on FFL, from those who apparently live their lives by some TM baloney like choosing to travel only when the jyotish chart sez so, and believing the crap about vastu veda to those highly intelligent and erudite chaps such as Barry, Curtis and Sal who have freed themselves from their TM chains. I think this is rather dramatic. Am I free from the TM chains too? Or was I ever ensnared, do you think? Do you have to have been a teacher to have been ensnared? An MIU student, a meditator? I continue to post because I like wasting time, which is what telling people like Nabby who are utterly consumed by their illusions that Marshy was a fraud. He'll never believe it, nor will anyone else whose self esteem has to have that anchor of feeling associated with an ultimate superlative. (Marshy was enlightened, a great master, a saint - his knowledge is supreme knowledge and by doing his technique and believing his crap I am cozily snuggled in a blanket of belief that I partake of supreme sattva and I am like him blah blah blah.) I also like it when Sal posts some uniquely Brit stuff that makes me laugh. Sal is a hoot. From: Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 25, 2014 7:56 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] 7/21-23 - Maharishi: A discussion of karma and not speaking ill of others Michael, I don't think it's Steve's projection at all! You have stated that you have a mission wrt posting on FFL. But perhaps you see role and mission as two different things! Go figger...
Re: [FairfieldLife] ISIS Militants are Asking for It
On 07/26/2014 07:37 AM, 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: On 7/25/2014 4:02 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: In the past few weeks they have done hideous acts that would be considered barbaric, including threats to President Obama which could be interpreted as threats to the US homeland. They are members of one big family - Hezboallah, Hamas, and ISIS and the Muslim Brotherhood. There is only one country in the whole of the Middle East that has a secular government, that supports democratic elections, freedom of religion, freedom of speech, and freedom of the press - Israel. In contrast, there are at least thirteen countries in the Middle East that support radical Islamic extremism. Within a year, I predict that the entire Middlle East will be involved in a civil war - Jordan is probably next on their list. Go figure. Gomaya. I know Israelis who have left the country because though you say democratic it's run by right wing fascists. Many Jews in America do not approve of that government either and how Palestinians have been treated. Plus ISIS is just rebranded Al-Qaeda which is just rebranded Mujahdeen and very useful for governments like the US (who supported the latter) for creating disruption as real democratic governments might tell Washington and their dollar to take a hike. Understand geopolitics much? Go figure. 'Klavan's One-State Solution: Give the Middle East to the Jews' http://youtu.be/uIEeiDjdUuU http://dailycaller.com/2014/07/24/isis-militants-destroy-biblical-site/ In astrological terms, Mars is now in conjunction with Saturn in Libra which indicate the possibility of war or violence erupting in the world. We can only assume that this will happen in Iraq specifically. As such, I believe the US will decide to use war planes and missiles to bomb specific targets in areas held by ISIS. If this doesn't work, Obama may have to send American troops back in Iraq to squelch the cancer that's spreading in the Middle East in the form of ISIS. President Obama does not need to have congressional approval to do this since the previous authority to use force in Iraq has not ended.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi: A discussion of karma and MJ, was Maharishi
Well, you've nearly made a career of it. On the other hand, you're just one in a long line, Well, actually its a pretty short line, but somehow the baton has been passed to you. It seems to be a about a two year to five year stint. You up for that? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : What you refuse to recognize is that the Movement and Marshy have discredited themselves and continue to do so on a daily basis. I merely see what is. From: steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 25, 2014 11:38 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi: A discussion of karma and MJ, was Maharishi What's funny is that he will dig up some press release, or article that might be 30 or 40 years old, as though it is hot off the press. He finds a critical statement of someone who has done TM in the past, near or far, and trots it out as some new irrefutable piece of evidence. He seems to deny that he is on some crusade to discredit TM and the TMO. I suspect otherwise, and that many hours a day are spent on such a mission. His prerogative of course. But what happens if you pour all that attention into something and it fails to produce the desired result. I guess we'll see. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 7/24/2014 9:53 PM, steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: I'll try to keep that in mind Michael. But, when you go on record saying certain things, then you might be called upon to back them up. Whether you do, or not, is a different matter. Most of what MJ has posted is just rumor - things we've all heard before. He doesn't seem to be very big on references or citing any peer-reviewed scientific studies published in any learned journals about the mechanics of consciousness. He doesn't even seem to want to talk about anything except his prurient interest in the perverted sexual encounters of others - which he has mentioned at least a dozen times this month. Go figure. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... mailto:mjackson74@... wrote : that's your projection on my role here, its not mine. I have no role on FFL - I'm just here. From: steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] mailto:steve.sundur@...[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 1:59 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] 7/21-23 - Maharishi: A discussion of karma and not speaking ill of others Hey, it helps to know how you view things. So, since you don't buy in to any of this stuff, your role here is to just point out the idiocy of people who like to discuss such issues, or share their experiences, which you evidently believe have no credence? Just askin' I mean, it is a rather funny use of one's time.
Re: [FairfieldLife] 7/21-23 - Maharishi: A discussion of karma and not speaking ill of others
And yet its ok for the TMO to rave on endlessly about how fabulous and without blemish TM is when we all know differently? Some of us feel that exposure of hypocrisy and activities including solicitation to meditate that does actual harm in the context of what has become a bona fide cult is a positive thing for our society at large. Unfortunately since so many of the joe and jane doe's of our society look no farther than Oh Jennifer Anniston is a TM'er! TM must be god! and the celebrity driven lies the David Lynch promotes, the real info about TM from people like Gina Catena is marginalized. But in case you haven't noticed, TM has STILL not become a common practice among the world's population. The reason? The claims for just TM alone, not to mention all the adjunct programs are unrealistic and unsustainable. The outrageous claims that Marshy made that have become dogma amongst TM'ers were made from Marshy's hubris and his confidence that his followers were so stupid and locked into his vibe that they would follow him and give him money no matter what he claimed. Now that he's gone, the TMO can never hope to keep its medicine show going when it is looked at in the light of day. But there are some of us who do like to shine the light of truth and common sense onto the lies that back TM. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2014 11:31 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] 7/21-23 - Maharishi: A discussion of karma and not speaking ill of others Xeno, thank you for taking the time to reply. As much as I love logic and Mr. Spock, in terms of considering what someone says or writes, I tend to go more by how someone's energy feels to me. I notice that I tend to enjoy more settled expressions, especially if they're positive. But also enjoy dry wit and commentary. I've come to the conclusion that online relationships and communities are uncharted territory for most of us. So I take everything presented here with a grain of salt. I think it's silly for people to comment on the TMO, etc. when they haven't been around it for decades! I also think that ragging on anyone and anything over and over is an indication that a person has unresolved childhood issues and has found a safe scapegoat. I could be wrong. And if I am, I'm sure life will straighten me out. Eventually (-: On Friday, July 25, 2014 1:22 PM, anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Share, But logically, this is incorrect. While psychologically one might doubt a person's statement because of his/her known character and reliability, the truth of a statement made by someone can only logically be determined if it corresponds to an actual fact. The fact the person is a scoundrel and liar does not prove a statement is false. This is the classic ad hominem argument, where you attack the character of the source of the statement to supposedly prove a statement is false. Except this does not prove the statement false. It may make you assume the statement is false, but an assumption is not a fact. It is an emotional misdirection, classically used by politicians all the time. The reverse of this argument is pro hominem, 'argument for the man' in which one supposes a statement is true because so-and-so made it. It is equally invalid. That Maharishi was something of a scoundrel seems fairly well established, but the evidence is from my point of view largely circumstantial. It has psychological weight but further investigation, which I certainly will not carry out, would be needed to substantiate it. That similar things occurred with figures in the movement that I was more familiar with adds to that psychological weight and indicates a certain pattern of behaviour within the upper echelons of the movement that filters down. The real question to answer is how much did these shortcomings curtail the effectiveness of his stated primary mission. If his primary mission was clandestine, say to accumulate money, then probably it did curtail the stated primary mission. As far as it affected me, I do not think it had much effect on any benefits I received, though I made it a point to absolutely minimise expenditures to the movement, making no donations whatever, and only spending for something I felt would be valuable to me, such as residence courses, which I did in the first few years of learning TM. Most of what the movement has offered beyond TM I felt was worthless, such as jyotish, stapatyaveda, most of ayurveda, and a host of similar things which rode in on the coattails of people's fascination with TM. I found TM most useful, though now, in my fifth decade, its utility has worn very thin, it has served its purpose. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@...
Re: [FairfieldLife] 7/21-23 - Maharishi: A discussion of karma and not speaking ill of others
Yep, Power to the people, Right on! Some suggestions for *revolting* behavior, against all things TM: 1. Enter any east facing doorways, sideways, to ensure you are facing SOUTH - Take THAT, Maharishi! 2. Consider a change of diet, for example, a breakfast blender shake, of filet mignon, tobacco, beer, chocolate, mushrooms, and peanuts! Gr, Guru Dev... 3. Astrology advice? Read it on **Yahoo**, with a BIFF, POW, SOCK-O, to the TMO!! Let's make a difference, one daze at a time. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : oh, let's not forget the simple act of eating a pizza can be a means to torment MMY, wherever he may be. you know boasting about putting mushrooms on a pizza just so you can show him no, no attachment there. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : If nothing is found wanting, if there are no deep desires going unfulfilled, if one's life is spent in ever increasing ease and delight, and success, then, sure, have at it. Well said Doc Fleet Mac - and it pretty much describes me, so... From: Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 25, 2014 10:37 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] 7/21-23 - Maharishi: A discussion of karma and not speaking ill of others Fleetwood, this is imo beautifully articulated. Thanks... On Friday, July 25, 2014 7:21 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: [Attachment(s) https://us-mg5.mail.yahoo.com/neo/launch#TopText from fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] included below] Steve's point is a good one - How's that working for you? There are several here, who take great delight, and are very conscientious, about pointing out what they consider flaws in Maharishi's system of teaching meditation, and his considerable comments on spiritual growth. There is nothing wrong with being critical, and calling bullshit, when it is apparent, but the process only works favorably, if the same scrutiny is applied to the individual making the judgments, and doing the nit-picking. In other words, a person's credibility, in making these ongoing negative assessments about Maharishi's system, is only solid, if that same critical eye is turned on the person, by his or herself. If nothing is found wanting, if there are no deep desires going unfulfilled, if one's life is spent in ever increasing ease and delight, and success, then, sure, have at it. Turn a critical eye, and voice all of that, about Maharishi's system, over and over and over again. However, if there are deep needs of the heart going unfulfilled, or personal domains that need work, better to spend time working those out, vs. this endless diatribe, against all things Maharishi. Otherwise it looks like a bad day at work, led to kicking the dog, at home, over and over and over again, if you catch my drift. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : I was being somewhat facetious in my commentary on the origins of so-called vedic wisdom, but I bet I am not far off the mark From: steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 10:36 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] 7/21-23 - Maharishi: A discussion of karma and not speaking ill of others I know I commented on this before, but going through things again, more leisurely, this is just a too funny analysis by Michael of those who have chosen a different path. God love him. Somehow Michael, you regularly make the exception the rule. And you are always so sure of yourself. Begs the Dr. Phil question, How's that working for you ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : for me, I have dropped the notion of higher states of consciousness - its all one thing, what some refer to as higher (which carries a connotation of lower states of awareness) are just experiences, none higher and none lower. As I have stated here on FFL before, its just a bunch of made up stuff to make people feel higher, mightier and more important. And I have said before that it started with the ancient Indians who were too lazy or socially inept to live in society. They just wanted to laze around all day and contemplate the universe and when they ate some extra special mushrooms or some such, they said 'Hey! This is how it is! This is REAL reality. So when some traveler came along and said What are you sitting around for! Get yer ass up and do something, the self styled rishi would pontificate about real reality and try to get the traveler to follow his new path so as to get friends and corroboration that the rishi's way of looking at the world was the right one. From: steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To:
[FairfieldLife] 2019
2019 is about Saturn retrograding around the point of aspect from Ketu. I has been pointed out by Jyotishis to be similar events of the past which involved a lot of deaths. This aspect could be experienced in a good way, as these planets can also be planets of spirituality. Depends if people keep treating the earth as a trash can, keep killing people and cows, stealing other land etc. or take to Invincibility and spiritual practices...
[FairfieldLife] Satya Yuga
Many Saints and traditions have indicated a Golden Age is starting now. We also have this date from the Srimad Bhagavatam and recent dates which have past according to other traditions. Maharishi had every right to Celebrate the Dawn while he was here, being the greatest earthly architect of the transformation. His guidelines for Vaastu, Ayurveda and Invincible Defense etc will benefit many generations to come.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Satya Yuga
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Many Saints and traditions have indicated a Golden Age is starting now. Wow, it must be true then, they are usually so reliable. We also have this date from the Srimad Bhagavatam and recent dates which have past according to other traditions. Maharishi had every right to Celebrate the Dawn while he was here, being the greatest earthly architect of the transformation. His guidelines for Vaastu, Ayurveda and Invincible Defense etc will benefit many generations to come. A great many I should think, some people like to live in the past. I think we can do better than a type of medicine that thinks heavy metals aren't toxic once they've been heated. I know people whose children have been born with lead poisoning after believing the bullshit about ayurveda being the best system of healthcare, they sued the movement and it all got hushed up. Jai Guru Dev! And invincible defence is about as useful, unless you think ISIS are a valid part of the new golden age? Maybe you do, they are religious fundamentalists after all
Re: [FairfieldLife] 7/21-23 - Maharishi: A discussion of karma and not speaking ill of others
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Yep, Power to the people, Right on! Some suggestions for *revolting* behavior, against all things TM: 1. Enter any east facing doorways, sideways, to ensure you are facing SOUTH - Take THAT, Maharishi! 2. Consider a change of diet, for example, a breakfast blender shake, of filet mignon, tobacco, beer, chocolate, mushrooms, and peanuts! Gr, Guru Dev... 3. Astrology advice? Read it on **Yahoo**, with a BIFF, POW, SOCK-O, to the TMO!! Let's make a difference, one daze at a time.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Satya Yuga start date
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Yeah I wondered about that myself. I don't recall anyone ever saying there would be some big purge of all the undeserving folk before the full sunshine of Sat Yuga begins to shine. This seems to be part Indian myth, part Marshy's spin on Indian myth coupled with New Age enthusiasm tempered by a healthy dose of Nazi-type elitism. You guys are missing the point. Srijau didn't say there would be a purge of those undeserving he just said there might be a mass death or a mass transformation. He wasn't making a value statement or predicting anything about who will live to see Sat Yuga (if there is such a thing). This reminds me of that game telephone when someone says, We are expecting fine weather and it ends up being The lizards are coming. From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2014 9:18 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Satya Yuga start date I see that Satya Yuga has somehow morphed in the minds of TBs into an either/or situation, depending on what one deserves. Some will deserve a Golden Age of higher consciousness, and others will deserve only mass death. Same old Apocalypse Believers, just in TM clothing. For some reason, this reminded me of a great song by Jackson Browne in which he deals with the real nature of Apocalypse Believers. If the shit ever does really hit the fan, *whoever survives* is going to invent reasons why they survived and others didn't. And all of them will be self-serving lies... Jackson Browne - Before The Deluge ( + lyrics 1974) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SX-HFcSIoU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SX-HFcSIoU Jackson Browne - Before The Deluge ( + lyrics 1974) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SX-HFcSIoU View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SX-HFcSIoU Preview by Yahoo From: Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2014 3:01 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Satya Yuga start date Only the people who don't believe in the TM mythos. From: srijau@... srijau@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2014 8:51 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Satya Yuga start date first day, you made it 2019 can be mass transformation to higher consciousness or mass death, what will we deserve, will we deserve to live on into the Golden Age?
Re: [FairfieldLife] 7/21-23 - Maharishi: A discussion of karma and not speaking ill of others
Might as well piss- off Shavites and Orthodox Jews as well, and add a some grilled onions to that bacon cheese burger. On Saturday, July 26, 2014 11:38 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Yep, Power to the people, Right on! Some suggestions for *revolting* behavior, against all things TM: 1. Enter any east facing doorways, sideways, to ensure you are facing SOUTH - Take THAT, Maharishi! 2. Consider a change of diet, for example, a breakfast blender shake, of filet mignon, tobacco, beer, chocolate, mushrooms, and peanuts! Gr, Guru Dev... 3. Astrology advice? Read it on **Yahoo**, with a BIFF, POW, SOCK-O, to the TMO!! Let's make a difference, one daze at a time.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Satya Yuga start date
Perhaps the sunny days of 'Sat Yuga' have begun on the 'inside' even if it's still raining on the outside.
Re: [FairfieldLife] 7/21-23 - Maharishi: A discussion of karma and not speaking ill of others
lol - my mantle is getting crowded! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Yep, Power to the people, Right on! Some suggestions for *revolting* behavior, against all things TM: 1. Enter any east facing doorways, sideways, to ensure you are facing SOUTH - Take THAT, Maharishi! 2. Consider a change of diet, for example, a breakfast blender shake, of filet mignon, tobacco, beer, chocolate, mushrooms, and peanuts! Gr, Guru Dev... 3. Astrology advice? Read it on **Yahoo**, with a BIFF, POW, SOCK-O, to the TMO!! Let's make a difference, one daze at a time.
Re: [FairfieldLife] 2019
you are saying that there will be mass death in part because people kill and eat cows? From: sri...@ymail.com sri...@ymail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2014 1:53 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] 2019 2019 is about Saturn retrograding around the point of aspect from Ketu. I has been pointed out by Jyotishis to be similar events of the past which involved a lot of deaths. This aspect could be experienced in a good way, as these planets can also be planets of spirituality. Depends if people keep treating the earth as a trash can, keep killing people and cows, stealing other land etc. or take to Invincibility and spiritual practices...
Re: [FairfieldLife] 7/21-23 - Maharishi: A discussion of karma and not speaking ill of others
Exactly - Also, instead of wearing the cult-like and conformist, cream-colored suits, favored by the TMO cognoscenti, I have opted instead, for something similar to Raquel Welch's furry ensemble (male version - shows my nippies), in the epic film, One Million Years B.C.. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote : Might as well piss- off Shavites and Orthodox Jews as well, and add a some grilled onions to that bacon cheese burger. On Saturday, July 26, 2014 11:38 AM, awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Yep, Power to the people, Right on! Some suggestions for *revolting* behavior, against all things TM: 1. Enter any east facing doorways, sideways, to ensure you are facing SOUTH - Take THAT, Maharishi! 2. Consider a change of diet, for example, a breakfast blender shake, of filet mignon, tobacco, beer, chocolate, mushrooms, and peanuts! Gr, Guru Dev... 3. Astrology advice? Read it on **Yahoo**, with a BIFF, POW, SOCK-O, to the TMO!! Let's make a difference, one daze at a time.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Satya Yuga
I know people whose children have been born with lead poisoning after believing the bullshit about ayurveda being the best system of healthcare, they sued the movement and it all got hushed up. Jai Guru Dev! Whoa! Lets have some details on this one! This happened in the UK? How long ago? And the babies actually had lead poisoning? There must be different rules in the UK - I don't think the ayurvedic medicines that contain the heavy metals are allowed by law here in the US. Do they allow them in the UK or did the parents get them surreptitiously? How did the lawsuits come out? From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2014 2:28 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Satya Yuga ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Many Saints and traditions have indicated a Golden Age is starting now. Wow, it must be true then, they are usually so reliable. We also have this date from the Srimad Bhagavatam and recent dates which have past according to other traditions. Maharishi had every right to Celebrate the Dawn while he was here, being the greatest earthly architect of the transformation. His guidelines for Vaastu, Ayurveda and Invincible Defense etc will benefit many generations to come. A great many I should think, some people like to live in the past. I think we can do better than a type of medicine that thinks heavy metals aren't toxic once they've been heated. I know people whose children have been born with lead poisoning after believing the bullshit about ayurveda being the best system of healthcare, they sued the movement and it all got hushed up. Jai Guru Dev! And invincible defence is about as useful, unless you think ISIS are a valid part of the new golden age? Maybe you do, they are religious fundamentalists after all
Re: [FairfieldLife] Satya Yuga start date
come on Ann, given the nature of sri's past posts, the idea was clearly implied, he's got that kind of mentality. From: awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2014 2:43 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Satya Yuga start date ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Yeah I wondered about that myself. I don't recall anyone ever saying there would be some big purge of all the undeserving folk before the full sunshine of Sat Yuga begins to shine. This seems to be part Indian myth, part Marshy's spin on Indian myth coupled with New Age enthusiasm tempered by a healthy dose of Nazi-type elitism. You guys are missing the point. Srijau didn't say there would be a purge of those undeserving he just said there might be a mass death or a mass transformation. He wasn't making a value statement or predicting anythingabout who will live to see Sat Yuga (if there is such a thing). This reminds me of that game telephone when someone says, We are expecting fine weather and it ends up being The lizards are coming. From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2014 9:18 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Satya Yuga start date I see that Satya Yuga has somehow morphed in the minds of TBs into an either/or situation, depending on what one deserves. Some will deserve a Golden Age of higher consciousness, and others will deserve only mass death. Same old Apocalypse Believers, just in TM clothing. For some reason, this reminded me of a great song by Jackson Browne in which he deals with the real nature of Apocalypse Believers. If the shit ever does really hit the fan, *whoever survives* is going to invent reasons why they survived and others didn't. And all of them will be self-serving lies... Jackson Browne - Before The Deluge ( + lyrics 1974) Jackson Browne - Before The Deluge ( + lyrics 1974) View on www.youtube.com Preview by Yahoo From: Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2014 3:01 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Satya Yuga start date Only the people who don't believe in the TM mythos. From: srijau@... srijau@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2014 8:51 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Satya Yuga start date first day, you made it 2019 can be mass transformation to higher consciousness or mass death, what will we deserve, will we deserve to live on into the Golden Age?
Re: [FairfieldLife] ISIS Militants are Asking for It
Share, I tend to believe in Shri Yukteshwar's version of the yuga cycles. As such, we are now in the ascending cycle of the Dwapara Yuga. Kali Yuga ended around 1700 AD. Please, see the following clip for details of this concept: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0xBUIJtfFE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0xBUIJtfFE Santos Bonacci has his own explanation for this yuga cycle which is due to the precession of the earth's axis. And, this precession is caused by the Sun's elliptical dance orbit with its twin star Sirius. http://www.viewzone.com/sirius.html http://www.viewzone.com/sirius.html ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : John, I heard through a friend that one jyotishi called July 26, tomorrow, the beginning of Sat Yuga because Surya, Chandra and Guru are all in Pushya. What do you think? On Friday, July 25, 2014 4:02 PM, jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: In the past few weeks they have done hideous acts that would be considered barbaric, including threats to President Obama which could be interpreted as threats to the US homeland. http://dailycaller.com/2014/07/24/isis-militants-destroy-biblical-site/ http://dailycaller.com/2014/07/24/isis-militants-destroy-biblical-site/ In astrological terms, Mars is now in conjunction with Saturn in Libra which indicate the possibility of war or violence erupting in the world. We can only assume that this will happen in Iraq specifically. As such, I believe the US will decide to use war planes and missiles to bomb specific targets in areas held by ISIS. If this doesn't work, Obama may have to send American troops back in Iraq to squelch the cancer that's spreading in the Middle East in the form of ISIS. President Obama does not need to have congressional approval to do this since the previous authority to use force in Iraq has not ended.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Satya Yuga
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : I know people whose children have been born with lead poisoning after believing the bullshit about ayurveda being the best system of healthcare, they sued the movement and it all got hushed up. Jai Guru Dev! Whoa! Lets have some details on this one! This happened in the UK? How long ago? And the babies actually had lead poisoning? There must be different rules in the UK - I don't think the ayurvedic medicines that contain the heavy metals are allowed by law here in the US. Do they allow them in the UK or did the parents get them surreptitiously? How did the lawsuits come out? You have to get the stuff from India to get the full benefits. I have no other details, I can't name names. I knew the girl concerned but hadn't seen her for ages - this happened some time ago and I only found out recently. It amazes me how something like that that really ought to blow things apart gets forgotten about very quickly to protect the ludicrously idealistic view of the world they promote. The golden age must have been grim with health care like this, mind you life expectancy was extremely low in India when the vedas were written so maybe they just never got to find out how poor the drugs were. I am of course extremely pissed off that she got involved with these snake oil salesmen and that it ended like that. I know there are others that got ill in Indian clinics recommended by Marshy and sued the TMO but we never find out how they got on. Must be some sort of non-disclosure agreement. I remember being on a foreign course and being really pleased that we could get hold of AV stuff with the correct ingredients that are stupidly forbidden in Europe, if only we were more enlightened eh? From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2014 2:28 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Satya Yuga ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Many Saints and traditions have indicated a Golden Age is starting now. Wow, it must be true then, they are usually so reliable. We also have this date from the Srimad Bhagavatam and recent dates which have past according to other traditions. Maharishi had every right to Celebrate the Dawn while he was here, being the greatest earthly architect of the transformation. His guidelines for Vaastu, Ayurveda and Invincible Defense etc will benefit many generations to come. A great many I should think, some people like to live in the past. I think we can do better than a type of medicine that thinks heavy metals aren't toxic once they've been heated. I know people whose children have been born with lead poisoning after believing the bullshit about ayurveda being the best system of healthcare, they sued the movement and it all got hushed up. Jai Guru Dev! And invincible defence is about as useful, unless you think ISIS are a valid part of the new golden age? Maybe you do, they are religious fundamentalists after all
Re: [FairfieldLife] 2019
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : you are saying that there will be mass death in part because people kill and eat cows? All that cholesterol is bad for you MJ... From: srijau@... srijau@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2014 1:53 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] 2019 2019 is about Saturn retrograding around the point of aspect from Ketu. I has been pointed out by Jyotishis to be similar events of the past which involved a lot of deaths. This aspect could be experienced in a good way, as these planets can also be planets of spirituality. Depends if people keep treating the earth as a trash can, keep killing people and cows, stealing other land etc. or take to Invincibility and spiritual practices...
[FairfieldLife] Re: ISIS Militants are Asking for It
Richard, The Islamic states and the radical Muslim movements are misnomers. They are really political movements veiled in the religion of Islam. The reason for this is the convenience of attracting and unifying the people to their cause. As such, the leaders obtain absolute power by invoking the Koran. The effect is the lack of wisdom and compassion among their leaders and the increase of dark, senseless, cold, violent, and barbaric acts that we've witnessed all too often in the past decade in the Middle East. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 7/25/2014 4:02 PM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: In the past few weeks they have done hideous acts that would be considered barbaric, including threats to President Obama which could be interpreted as threats to the US homeland. They are members of one big family - Hezboallah, Hamas, and ISIS and the Muslim Brotherhood. There is only one country in the whole of the Middle East that has a secular government, that supports democratic elections, freedom of religion, freedom of speech, and freedom of the press - Israel. In contrast, there are at least thirteen countries in the Middle East that support radical Islamic extremism. Within a year, I predict that the entire Middlle East will be involved in a civil war - Jordan is probably next on their list. Go figure. 'Klavan's One-State Solution: Give the Middle East to the Jews' http://youtu.be/uIEeiDjdUuU http://youtu.be/uIEeiDjdUuU http://dailycaller.com/2014/07/24/isis-militants-destroy-biblical-site/ http://dailycaller.com/2014/07/24/isis-militants-destroy-biblical-site/ In astrological terms, Mars is now in conjunction with Saturn in Libra which indicate the possibility of war or violence erupting in the world. We can only assume that this will happen in Iraq specifically. As such, I believe the US will decide to use war planes and missiles to bomb specific targets in areas held by ISIS. If this doesn't work, Obama may have to send American troops back in Iraq to squelch the cancer that's spreading in the Middle East in the form of ISIS. President Obama does not need to have congressional approval to do this since the previous authority to use force in Iraq has not ended.
Re: [FairfieldLife] 2019
It's forecast in either the book of Daniel and or Revelation that 1/3 the earths population will die at the turn of the age from wars. It begins in the Euphrates river valley. Not hard to believe at this time, with ISIS and Islamic extremism on the rise. Islam makes up close to 1/3 the population of the earth. Things could easily spiral out of control in this region, especially if Iran gets Nukes. Fortunately, prophets of the old and new testament saw the sequence of events coming, though they could not put an exact time.Christ said *no man knows the hour* but He admonished His followers to know the *season*. There still needs to be a settlement of the Jerusalem issue before a final count down of events can occur. On Saturday, July 26, 2014 11:58 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: you are saying that there will be mass death in part because people kill and eat cows? From: sri...@ymail.com sri...@ymail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2014 1:53 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] 2019 2019 is about Saturn retrograding around the point of aspect from Ketu. I has been pointed out by Jyotishis to be similar events of the past which involved a lot of deaths. This aspect could be experienced in a good way, as these planets can also be planets of spirituality. Depends if people keep treating the earth as a trash can, keep killing people and cows, stealing other land etc. or take to Invincibility and spiritual practices...
[FairfieldLife] Re: ISIS Militants are Asking for It
srijau, According to Sri Yukteshwar, Kali Yuga ended in 1700 AD and we are now in the ascending cycle of Dwapara Yuga. Please, see the links I provided on my response to Share. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ACCORDING TO SRIMAD BHAGATVAM cANTO 12 verse 2 Satya Yuga start date is indeed this July 26th
[FairfieldLife] Re: ISIS Militants are Asking for It
Bhairitu, These Islamists in the ME have not understood the fact that religion and the state do not mix well. The unification of religion and state leads to absolute power and the fundamentalist view of any religion leads to violence. Thus, the society does not get peace and harmony but only volatility and grief. This also applies to the Jewish state of Israel. We're supposed to be in the Dwapara Yuga now and yet these people in the ME are still acting in Kali Yuga. Is this the purging of the karma that has accumulated in people of that land? They've been doing this crap since biblical times, as in Cain and Abel. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : On 07/26/2014 07:37 AM, 'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... mailto:punditster@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: On 7/25/2014 4:02 PM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: In the past few weeks they have done hideous acts that would be considered barbaric, including threats to President Obama which could be interpreted as threats to the US homeland. They are members of one big family - Hezboallah, Hamas, and ISIS and the Muslim Brotherhood. There is only one country in the whole of the Middle East that has a secular government, that supports democratic elections, freedom of religion, freedom of speech, and freedom of the press - Israel. In contrast, there are at least thirteen countries in the Middle East that support radical Islamic extremism. Within a year, I predict that the entire Middlle East will be involved in a civil war - Jordan is probably next on their list. Go figure. Gomaya. I know Israelis who have left the country because though you say democratic it's run by right wing fascists. Many Jews in America do not approve of that government either and how Palestinians have been treated. Plus ISIS is just rebranded Al-Qaeda which is just rebranded Mujahdeen and very useful for governments like the US (who supported the latter) for creating disruption as real democratic governments might tell Washington and their dollar to take a hike. Understand geopolitics much? Go figure. 'Klavan's One-State Solution: Give the Middle East to the Jews' http://youtu.be/uIEeiDjdUuU http://dailycaller.com/2014/07/24/isis-militants-destroy-biblical-site/ http://dailycaller.com/2014/07/24/isis-militants-destroy-biblical-site/ In astrological terms, Mars is now in conjunction with Saturn in Libra which indicate the possibility of war or violence erupting in the world. We can only assume that this will happen in Iraq specifically. As such, I believe the US will decide to use war planes and missiles to bomb specific targets in areas held by ISIS. If this doesn't work, Obama may have to send American troops back in Iraq to squelch the cancer that's spreading in the Middle East in the form of ISIS. President Obama does not need to have congressional approval to do this since the previous authority to use force in Iraq has not ended.
[FairfieldLife] Re: ISIS Militants are Asking for It
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : srijau, According to Sri Yukteshwar, Kali Yuga ended in 1700 AD and we are now in the ascending cycle of Dwapara Yuga. Please, see the links I provided on my response to Share. According to This is the trouble I have with this stuff - the reliance on some authority. Where did the authorities get their information? Cognised it I suppose, which is about as reliable as dreaming about something and expecting it to be true the following morning. The improvement in knowledge and understanding that the human race achieved after abandoning it's trust in religious authority figures is amazing. Funnily enough we refer to it as the Enlightenment! The freedom of thought to explore and gain new knowledge, free from religious dictates. Yugas indeed... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ACCORDING TO SRIMAD BHAGATVAM cANTO 12 verse 2 Satya Yuga start date is indeed this July 26th
Re: [FairfieldLife] 2019
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote : It's forecast in either the book of Daniel and or Revelation that 1/3 the earths population will die at the turn of the age from wars. It begins in the Euphrates river valley. Not hard to believe at this time, with ISIS and Islamic extremism on the rise. Islam makes up close to 1/3 the population of the earth. Things could easily spiral out of control in this region, especially if Iran gets Nukes. Fortunately, prophets of the old and new testament saw the sequence of events coming, though they could not put an exact time.Christ said *no man knows the hour* but He admonished His followers to know the *season*. There still needs to be a settlement of the Jerusalem issue before a final count down of events can occur. I'm starting to feel like I'm living in the dark ages. I'm going to sacrifice my dog to the moon and read her entrails to see if I can get to the bottom of this. On Saturday, July 26, 2014 11:58 AM, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: you are saying that there will be mass death in part because people kill and eat cows? From: srijau@... srijau@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2014 1:53 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] 2019 2019 is about Saturn retrograding around the point of aspect from Ketu. I has been pointed out by Jyotishis to be similar events of the past which involved a lot of deaths. This aspect could be experienced in a good way, as these planets can also be planets of spirituality. Depends if people keep treating the earth as a trash can, keep killing people and cows, stealing other land etc. or take to Invincibility and spiritual practices...
Re: [FairfieldLife] ISIS Militants are Asking for It
On 7/25/2014 4:02 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: In the past few weeks they have done hideous acts that would be considered barbaric, including threats to President Obama which could be interpreted as threats to the US homeland. On 07/26/2014 07:37 AM, 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: They are members of one big family - Hezboallah, Hamas, and ISIS and the Muslim Brotherhood. There is only one country in the whole of the Middle East that has a secular government, that supports democratic elections, freedom of religion, freedom of speech, and freedom of the press - Israel. In contrast, there are at least thirteen countries in the Middle East that support radical Islamic extremism. Within a year, I predict that the entire Middlle East will be involved in a civil war - Jordan is probably next on their list. Go figure. On 7/26/2014 11:05 AM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] wrote: Gomaya. Let me rephrase what I said: Within a year, the entire Middle East will be involved in a civil war - Jordan is probably next on their list. Go figure. I know Israelis who have left the country because though you say democratic it's run by right wing fascists. Many Jews in America do not approve of that government either and how Palestinians have been treated. Plus ISIS is just rebranded Al-Qaeda which is just rebranded Mujahdeen and very useful for governments like the US (who supported the latter) for creating disruption as real democratic governments might tell Washington and their dollar to take a hike. Understand geopolitics much? Go figure. 'Klavan's One-State Solution: Give the Middle East to the Jews' http://youtu.be/uIEeiDjdUuU http://dailycaller.com/2014/07/24/isis-militants-destroy-biblical-site/ In astrological terms, Mars is now in conjunction with Saturn in Libra which indicate the possibility of war or violence erupting in the world. We can only assume that this will happen in Iraq specifically. As such, I believe the US will decide to use war planes and missiles to bomb specific targets in areas held by ISIS. If this doesn't work, Obama may have to send American troops back in Iraq to squelch the cancer that's spreading in the Middle East in the form of ISIS. President Obama does not need to have congressional approval to do this since the previous authority to use
Re: [FairfieldLife] 7/21-23 - Maharishi: A discussion of karma and not speaking ill of others
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : lol - my mantle is getting crowded! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Yep, Power to the people, Right on! Some suggestions for *revolting* behavior, against all things TM: 1. Enter any east facing doorways, sideways, to ensure you are facing SOUTH - Take THAT, Maharishi! 2. Consider a change of diet, for example, a breakfast blender shake, of filet mignon, tobacco, beer, chocolate, mushrooms, and peanuts! Gr, Guru Dev... 3. Astrology advice? Read it on **Yahoo**, with a BIFF, POW, SOCK-O, to the TMO!! Let's make a difference, one daze at a time.
Re: [FairfieldLife] 7/21-23 - Maharishi: A discussion of karma and not speaking ill of others
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Exactly - Also, instead of wearing the cult-like and conformist, cream-colored suits, favored by the TMO cognoscenti, I have opted instead, for something similar to Raquel Welch's furry ensemble (male version - shows my nippies), in the epic film, One Million Years B.C.. If you could resemble the male version of this, Mac, I'm all in. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote : Might as well piss- off Shavites and Orthodox Jews as well, and add a some grilled onions to that bacon cheese burger. On Saturday, July 26, 2014 11:38 AM, awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Yep, Power to the people, Right on! Some suggestions for *revolting* behavior, against all things TM: 1. Enter any east facing doorways, sideways, to ensure you are facing SOUTH - Take THAT, Maharishi! 2. Consider a change of diet, for example, a breakfast blender shake, of filet mignon, tobacco, beer, chocolate, mushrooms, and peanuts! Gr, Guru Dev... 3. Astrology advice? Read it on **Yahoo**, with a BIFF, POW, SOCK-O, to the TMO!! Let's make a difference, one daze at a time.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Satya Yuga
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : I know people whose children have been born with lead poisoning after believing the bullshit about ayurveda being the best system of healthcare, they sued the movement and it all got hushed up. Jai Guru Dev! Whoa! Lets have some details on this one! This happened in the UK? How long ago? And the babies actually had lead poisoning? There must be different rules in the UK - I don't think the ayurvedic medicines that contain the heavy metals are allowed by law here in the US. Do they allow them in the UK or did the parents get them surreptitiously? How did the lawsuits come out? Whoa, take it easy MJ, don't have a stroke. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2014 2:28 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Satya Yuga ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Many Saints and traditions have indicated a Golden Age is starting now. Wow, it must be true then, they are usually so reliable. We also have this date from the Srimad Bhagavatam and recent dates which have past according to other traditions. Maharishi had every right to Celebrate the Dawn while he was here, being the greatest earthly architect of the transformation. His guidelines for Vaastu, Ayurveda and Invincible Defense etc will benefit many generations to come. A great many I should think, some people like to live in the past. I think we can do better than a type of medicine that thinks heavy metals aren't toxic once they've been heated. I know people whose children have been born with lead poisoning after believing the bullshit about ayurveda being the best system of healthcare, they sued the movement and it all got hushed up. Jai Guru Dev! And invincible defence is about as useful, unless you think ISIS are a valid part of the new golden age? Maybe you do, they are religious fundamentalists after all
Re: [FairfieldLife] Satya Yuga start date
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : come on Ann, given the nature of sri's past posts, the idea was clearly implied, he's got that kind of mentality. Lawl. From: awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2014 2:43 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Satya Yuga start date ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Yeah I wondered about that myself. I don't recall anyone ever saying there would be some big purge of all the undeserving folk before the full sunshine of Sat Yuga begins to shine. This seems to be part Indian myth, part Marshy's spin on Indian myth coupled with New Age enthusiasm tempered by a healthy dose of Nazi-type elitism. You guys are missing the point. Srijau didn't say there would be a purge of those undeserving he just said there might be a mass death or a mass transformation. He wasn't making a value statement or predicting anything about who will live to see Sat Yuga (if there is such a thing). This reminds me of that game telephone when someone says, We are expecting fine weather and it ends up being The lizards are coming. From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2014 9:18 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Satya Yuga start date I see that Satya Yuga has somehow morphed in the minds of TBs into an either/or situation, depending on what one deserves. Some will deserve a Golden Age of higher consciousness, and others will deserve only mass death. Same old Apocalypse Believers, just in TM clothing. For some reason, this reminded me of a great song by Jackson Browne in which he deals with the real nature of Apocalypse Believers. If the shit ever does really hit the fan, *whoever survives* is going to invent reasons why they survived and others didn't. And all of them will be self-serving lies... Jackson Browne - Before The Deluge ( + lyrics 1974) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SX-HFcSIoU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SX-HFcSIoU Jackson Browne - Before The Deluge ( + lyrics 1974) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SX-HFcSIoU View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SX-HFcSIoU Preview by Yahoo From: Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2014 3:01 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Satya Yuga start date Only the people who don't believe in the TM mythos. From: srijau@... srijau@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2014 8:51 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Satya Yuga start date first day, you made it 2019 can be mass transformation to higher consciousness or mass death, what will we deserve, will we deserve to live on into the Golden Age?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Satya Yuga
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : I know people whose children have been born with lead poisoning after believing the bullshit about ayurveda being the best system of healthcare, they sued the movement and it all got hushed up. Jai Guru Dev! Whoa! Lets have some details on this one! This happened in the UK? How long ago? And the babies actually had lead poisoning? There must be different rules in the UK - I don't think the ayurvedic medicines that contain the heavy metals are allowed by law here in the US. Do they allow them in the UK or did the parents get them surreptitiously? How did the lawsuits come out? You have to get the stuff from India to get the full benefits. I have no other details, I can't name names. I knew the girl concerned but hadn't seen her for ages - this happened some time ago and I only found out recently. It amazes me how something like that that really ought to blow things apart gets forgotten about very quickly to protect the ludicrously idealistic view of the world they promote. The golden age must have been grim with health care like this, mind you life expectancy was extremely low in India when the vedas were written so maybe they just never got to find out how poor the drugs were. I am of course extremely pissed off that she got involved with these snake oil salesmen and that it ended like that. I know there are others that got ill in Indian clinics recommended by Marshy and sued the TMO but we never find out how they got on. Must be some sort of non-disclosure agreement. I remember being on a foreign course and being really pleased that we could get hold of AV stuff with the correct ingredients that are stupidly forbidden in Europe, if only we were more enlightened eh? Strange, there have been thousands of people/children poisoned by lead in all sorts of toys, venetian blinds and household products for decades/centuries now. Are they sure it was from Ayurvedic use? From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2014 2:28 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Satya Yuga ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Many Saints and traditions have indicated a Golden Age is starting now. Wow, it must be true then, they are usually so reliable. We also have this date from the Srimad Bhagavatam and recent dates which have past according to other traditions. Maharishi had every right to Celebrate the Dawn while he was here, being the greatest earthly architect of the transformation. His guidelines for Vaastu, Ayurveda and Invincible Defense etc will benefit many generations to come. A great many I should think, some people like to live in the past. I think we can do better than a type of medicine that thinks heavy metals aren't toxic once they've been heated. I know people whose children have been born with lead poisoning after believing the bullshit about ayurveda being the best system of healthcare, they sued the movement and it all got hushed up. Jai Guru Dev! And invincible defence is about as useful, unless you think ISIS are a valid part of the new golden age? Maybe you do, they are religious fundamentalists after all
Re: [FairfieldLife] 2019
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote : It's forecast in either the book of Daniel and or Revelation that 1/3 the earths population will die at the turn of the age from wars. It begins in the Euphrates river valley. Not hard to believe at this time, with ISIS and Islamic extremism on the rise. Islam makes up close to 1/3 the population of the earth. Things could easily spiral out of control in this region, especially if Iran gets Nukes. Fortunately, prophets of the old and new testament saw the sequence of events coming, though they could not put an exact time.Christ said *no man knows the hour* but He admonished His followers to know the *season*. There still needs to be a settlement of the Jerusalem issue before a final count down of events can occur. I'm starting to feel like I'm living in the dark ages. I'm going to sacrifice my dog to the moon and read her entrails to see if I can get to the bottom of this. That's exactly what I meant by bringing up the notion of Apocalypse Believers. There have been people who believed this shit *at every moment of human history*. ALL of them thought that they were living during the most important period in history. ALL of them believed that they were at the center of incredible events. ALL of them convinced themselves that they had a clue about what was happening, and why. And from my point of view, ALL of them were just indulging in self-important self-delusion. If I were a betting man, I certainly wouldn't put my money on some crank claiming to know shit about the End Times, and predicting apocalyptic shit. The odds on them being right couldn't *possibly* be any worse, because so far not one of the people doing this has *been* right. Not one. I don't expect the next ones to be, either. On Saturday, July 26, 2014 11:58 AM, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: you are saying that there will be mass death in part because people kill and eat cows? From: srijau@... srijau@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2014 1:53 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] 2019 2019 is about Saturn retrograding around the point of aspect from Ketu. I has been pointed out by Jyotishis to be similar events of the past which involved a lot of deaths. This aspect could be experienced in a good way, as these planets can also be planets of spirituality. Depends if people keep treating the earth as a trash can, keep killing people and cows, stealing other land etc. or take to Invincibility and spiritual practices...
Re: [FairfieldLife] 2019
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote : It's forecast in either the book of Daniel and or Revelation that 1/3 the earths population will die at the turn of the age from wars. It begins in the Euphrates river valley. Not hard to believe at this time, with ISIS and Islamic extremism on the rise. Islam makes up close to 1/3 the population of the earth. Things could easily spiral out of control in this region, especially if Iran gets Nukes. Fortunately, prophets of the old and new testament saw the sequence of events coming, though they could not put an exact time.Christ said *no man knows the hour* but He admonished His followers to know the *season*. There still needs to be a settlement of the Jerusalem issue before a final count down of events can occur. I'm starting to feel like I'm living in the dark ages. I'm going to sacrifice my dog to the moon and read her entrails to see if I can get to the bottom of this. On 7/26/2014 3:51 PM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: That's exactly what I meant by bringing up the notion of Apocalypse Believers. There have been people who believed this shit *at every moment of human history*. ALL of them thought that they were living during the most important period in history. ALL of them believed that they were at the center of incredible events. ALL of them convinced themselves that they had a clue about what was happening, and why. And from my point of view, ALL of them were just indulging in self-important self-delusion. If I were a betting man, I certainly wouldn't put my money on some crank claiming to know shit about the End Times, and predicting apocalyptic shit. The odds on them being right couldn't *possibly* be any worse, because so far not one of the people doing this has *been* right. Not one. I don't expect the next ones to be, either. What next ones? Go figure. On Saturday, July 26, 2014 11:58 AM, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: you are saying that there will be mass death in part because people kill and eat cows? *From:* srijau@... srijau@... *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Saturday, July 26, 2014 1:53 PM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] 2019 2019 is about Saturn retrograding around the point of aspect from Ketu. I has been pointed out by Jyotishis to be similar events of the past which involved a lot of deaths. This aspect could be experienced in a good way, as these planets can also be planets of spirituality. Depends if people keep treating the earth as a trash can, keep killing people and cows, stealing other land etc. or take to Invincibility and spiritual practices...
[FairfieldLife] 2014, was 2019
On 7/26/2014 3:51 PM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: That's exactly what I meant by bringing up the notion of Apocalypse Believers. There have been people who believed this shit *at every moment of human history*. ALL of them thought that they were living during the most important period in history. ALL of them believed that they were at the center of incredible events. ALL of them convinced themselves that they had a clue about what was happening, and why. And from my point of view, ALL of them were just indulging in self-important self-delusion. Barry, I think that's what you used to call living in the present - the most important time in history, for you, because this is the only history you're probably going to make.
Re: [FairfieldLife] ISIS Militants are Asking for It
But Dwapara Yuga comes after Treta Yuga and BEFORE Kali Yuga. Marshy said we were heading into Sat Yuga - are you saying Marshy was wrong? From: jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2014 3:35 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] ISIS Militants are Asking for It Share, I tend to believe in Shri Yukteshwar's version of the yuga cycles. As such, we are now in the ascending cycle of the Dwapara Yuga. Kali Yuga ended around 1700 AD. Please, see the following clip for details of this concept: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0xBUIJtfFE Santos Bonacci has his own explanation for this yuga cycle which is due to the precession of the earth's axis. And, this precession is caused by the Sun's elliptical dance orbit with its twin star Sirius. http://www.viewzone.com/sirius.html ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : John, I heard through a friend that one jyotishi called July 26, tomorrow, the beginning of Sat Yuga because Surya, Chandra and Guru are all in Pushya. What do you think? On Friday, July 25, 2014 4:02 PM, jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: In the past few weeks they have done hideous acts that would be considered barbaric, including threats to President Obama which could be interpreted as threats to the US homeland. http://dailycaller.com/2014/07/24/isis-militants-destroy-biblical-site/ In astrological terms, Mars is now in conjunction with Saturn in Libra which indicate the possibility of war or violence erupting in the world. We can only assume that this will happen in Iraq specifically. As such, I believe the US will decide to use war planes and missiles to bomb specific targets in areas held by ISIS. If this doesn't work, Obama may have to send American troops back in Iraq to squelch the cancer that's spreading in the Middle East in the form of ISIS. President Obama does not need to have congressional approval to do this since the previous authority to use force in Iraq has not ended.
Re: [FairfieldLife] 7/21-23 - Maharishi: A discussion of karma and not speaking ill of others
On 7/26/2014 11:09 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Now that he's gone, the TMO can never hope to keep its medicine show going when it is looked at in the light of day. But there are some of us who do like to shine the light of truth and common sense onto the lies that back TM. You are doing a good job of keeping MMY's name in the subject line. Without you, nobody would probably even be talking about your Maharishi. Keep up the good work - as they say in Hollywood, There's no bad publicity, especially when the star is already dead. Keep the name alive and keep the money coming in. /How much are the Lurking Reporters paying you to be an informant?/
Re: [FairfieldLife] 2019
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote : It's forecast in either the book of Daniel and or Revelation that 1/3 the earths population will die at the turn of the age from wars. It begins in the Euphrates river valley. Not hard to believe at this time, with ISIS and Islamic extremism on the rise. Islam makes up close to 1/3 the population of the earth. Things could easily spiral out of control in this region, especially if Iran gets Nukes. Fortunately, prophets of the old and new testament saw the sequence of events coming, though they could not put an exact time.Christ said *no man knows the hour* but He admonished His followers to know the *season*. There still needs to be a settlement of the Jerusalem issue before a final count down of events can occur. I'm starting to feel like I'm living in the dark ages. I'm going to sacrifice my dog to the moon and read her entrails to see if I can get to the bottom of this. Good one. On Saturday, July 26, 2014 11:58 AM, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: you are saying that there will be mass death in part because people kill and eat cows? From: srijau@... srijau@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2014 1:53 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] 2019 2019 is about Saturn retrograding around the point of aspect from Ketu. I has been pointed out by Jyotishis to be similar events of the past which involved a lot of deaths. This aspect could be experienced in a good way, as these planets can also be planets of spirituality. Depends if people keep treating the earth as a trash can, keep killing people and cows, stealing other land etc. or take to Invincibility and spiritual practices...
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi: A discussion of karma and MJ, was Maharishi
On 7/26/2014 11:05 AM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Well, you've nearly made a career of it. On the other hand, you're just one in a long line, Well, actually its a pretty short line, but somehow the baton has been passed to you. It seems to be a about a two year to five year stint. You up for that? He will probably drop out in a few more months - now that Judy is gone he doesn't have much of a target audience anymore. So, he'll probably get tired of talking to himself soon - we need to just give him a little space to stretch out and look goofy. I've been on social media since 1998 and I've seen thousands of informants lose interest over time. Judy is the exception. However, there is a nerd over on /alt.buddha.short.fat.guy/ that has been posting one-liners since 1999 almost non-stop, probably Barry. Go figure. Where is Dr. Pete when we need him? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : What you refuse to recognize is that the Movement and Marshy have discredited themselves and continue to do so on a daily basis. I merely see what is. *From:* steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, July 25, 2014 11:38 PM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi: A discussion of karma and MJ, was Maharishi What's funny is that he will dig up some press release, or article that might be 30 or 40 years old, as though it is hot off the press. He finds a critical statement of someone who has done TM in the past, near or far, and trots it out as some new irrefutable piece of evidence. He seems to deny that he is on some crusade to discredit TM and the TMO. I suspect otherwise, and that many hours a day are spent on such a mission. His prerogative of course. But what happens if you pour all that attention into something and it fails to produce the desired result. I guess we'll see. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 7/24/2014 9:53 PM, steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: I'll try to keep that in mind Michael. But, when you go on record saying certain things, then you might be called upon to back them up. Whether you do, or not, is a different matter. Most of what MJ has posted is just rumor - things we've all heard before. He doesn't seem to be very big on references or citing any peer-reviewed scientific studies published in any learned journals about the mechanics of consciousness. He doesn't even seem to want to talk about anything except his prurient interest in the perverted sexual encounters of others - which he has mentioned at least a dozen times this month. Go figure.
Re: [FairfieldLife] ISIS Militants are Asking for It
John, is it not fascinating that Sat Yuga reportedly is beginning on July 26, 2014 and July 23 is the day every year when the Nile floods and Sirius can be seen on the horizon just before the Sun?! On Saturday, July 26, 2014 2:35 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Share, I tend to believe in Shri Yukteshwar's version of the yuga cycles. As such, we are now in the ascending cycle of the Dwapara Yuga. Kali Yuga ended around 1700 AD. Please, see the following clip for details of this concept: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0xBUIJtfFE Santos Bonacci has his own explanation for this yuga cycle which is due to the precession of the earth's axis. And, this precession is caused by the Sun's elliptical dance orbit with its twin star Sirius. http://www.viewzone.com/sirius.html ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : John, I heard through a friend that one jyotishi called July 26, tomorrow, the beginning of Sat Yuga because Surya, Chandra and Guru are all in Pushya. What do you think? On Friday, July 25, 2014 4:02 PM, jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: In the past few weeks they have done hideous acts that would be considered barbaric, including threats to President Obama which could be interpreted as threats to the US homeland. http://dailycaller.com/2014/07/24/isis-militants-destroy-biblical-site/ In astrological terms, Mars is now in conjunction with Saturn in Libra which indicate the possibility of war or violence erupting in the world. We can only assume that this will happen in Iraq specifically. As such, I believe the US will decide to use war planes and missiles to bomb specific targets in areas held by ISIS. If this doesn't work, Obama may have to send American troops back in Iraq to squelch the cancer that's spreading in the Middle East in the form of ISIS. President Obama does not need to have congressional approval to do this since the previous authority to use force in Iraq has not ended.
Re: [FairfieldLife] ISIS Militants are Asking for It
Maharishi always admitted that it was to be full moonshine of the Age of Enlightenment -- not a full Sat Yugaa respite at bestI heard 10,000 years and then back to DOOM. Sorta sounds like the promised Thousand Year Reich! Sieg Hell yeah we wanted a whole age to ourselves, eh? I'm ashamed to have ever romanticized these things so much. My nervous system is riddled with magical thinking routines that pop into every sort of consideration. BAH. Worse: even to this day, I have residual notions that I nurture. BAH. On the other hand, I could have worked as a mid-level executive for 30 years and seen what THAT would have done to me, eh? KARMA -- unfathomable.
[FairfieldLife] Marharishi A discussion of karma and MJ, was Maharishi
On 7/26/2014 11:03 AM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Your ultimate insult, which you find a way to repackage each day. Wait, come to think of it, Repackaging pretty much describes all you posts here! That's probably the point - when you're in a trance-induction state like MJ is in, you tend to post the same thing over and over again, either pro or con. We see this in Barry as well - hundreds of times - it's almost like a compulsion to post. According to psychologists, being in such a state for a pro-longed period of time can cause disassociation: an avoidance of reality where people tend to talk more about where they've been, instead of where they are going. Go figure. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : I don 't revile you as a true believer - you have gone beyond that to become a Willy Tex clone. *From:* steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, July 25, 2014 11:31 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] 7/21-23 - Maharishi: A discussion of karma and not speaking ill of others You do bring up a good point about wasting time, posting here Michael. I feel the exact same way about my posts in response to you. You are so far gone up the - TM is bad, MMY is bad, TMO is bad alley, that I also, know I am wasting my time to suggest that you see where in many cases your viewpoint is skewed. And now you will give me your rote reply about what a true believer I am, yada, yada, yada. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : I think this is rather dramatic. Am I free from the TM chains too? Or was I ever ensnared, do you think? Do you have to have been a teacher to have been ensnared? An MIU student, a meditator? It was meant to be dramatic, not to actually reflect my views - people like Nabby and Buck are the one wearing self-wrapped TM chains. *From:* awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, July 25, 2014 9:48 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] 7/21-23 - Maharishi: A discussion of karma and not speaking ill of others ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Share, go back to sleep. Any idea I posted about having a mission or role has been posted in jest. I got a lot of info here on FFL from the old time meditators and ex-meditators which is why I joined. I was coming to terms with my past with TM and was seeking information about Marshy and the Movement. I got it. I also was convinced by Rick's info that Marshy was a sexually active man (thanks Rick!). I also have seen nearly the entire range of TM effect here on FFL, from those who apparently live their lives by some TM baloney like choosing to travel only when the jyotish chart sez so, and believing the crap about vastu veda to those highly intelligent and erudite chaps such as Barry, Curtis and Sal who have freed themselves from their TM chains. I think this is rather dramatic. Am I free from the TM chains too? Or was I ever ensnared, do you think? Do you have to have been a teacher to have been ensnared? An MIU student, a meditator? I continue to post because I like wasting time, which is what telling people like Nabby who are utterly consumed by their illusions that Marshy was a fraud. He'll never believe it, nor will anyone else whose self esteem has to have that anchor of feeling associated with an ultimate superlative. (Marshy was enlightened, a great master, a saint - his knowledge is supreme knowledge and by doing his technique and believing his crap I am cozily snuggled in a blanket of belief that I partake of supreme sattva and I am like him blah blah blah.) I also like it when Sal posts some uniquely Brit stuff that makes me laugh. Sal is a hoot. *From:* Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, July 25, 2014 7:56 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] 7/21-23 - Maharishi: A discussion of karma and not speaking ill of others Michael, I don't think it's Steve's projection at all! You have stated that you have a mission wrt posting on FFL. But perhaps you see role and mission as two different things! Go figger...
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Satya Yuga
You will make a grand Mary Poppins Ann, should Disney ever do a reboot. From: awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2014 4:51 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Satya Yuga ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : I know people whose children have been born with lead poisoning after believing the bullshit about ayurveda being the best system of healthcare, they sued the movement and it all got hushed up. Jai Guru Dev! Whoa! Lets have some details on this one! This happened in the UK? How long ago? And the babies actually had lead poisoning? There must be different rules in the UK - I don't think the ayurvedic medicines that contain the heavy metals are allowed by law here in the US. Do they allow them in the UK or did the parents get them surreptitiously? How did the lawsuits come out? You have to get the stuff from India to get the full benefits. I have no other details, I can't name names. I knew the girl concerned but hadn't seen her for ages - this happened some time ago and I only found out recently. It amazes me how something like that that really ought to blow things apart gets forgotten about very quickly to protect the ludicrously idealistic view of the world they promote. The golden age must have been grim with health care like this, mind you life expectancy was extremely low in India when the vedas were written so maybe they just never got to find out how poor the drugs were. I am of course extremely pissed off that she got involved with these snake oil salesmen and that it ended like that. I know there are others that got ill in Indian clinics recommended by Marshy and sued the TMO but we never find out how they got on. Must be some sort of non-disclosure agreement. I remember being on a foreign course and being really pleased that we could get hold of AV stuff with the correct ingredients that are stupidly forbidden in Europe, if only we were more enlightened eh? Strange, there have been thousands of people/children poisoned by lead in all sorts of toys, venetian blinds and household products for decades/centuries now. Are they sure it was from Ayurvedic use? From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2014 2:28 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Satya Yuga ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Many Saints and traditions have indicated a Golden Age is starting now. Wow, it must be true then, they are usually so reliable. We also have this date from the Srimad Bhagavatam and recent dates which have past according to other traditions. Maharishi had every right to Celebrate the Dawn while he was here, being the greatest earthly architect of the transformation. His guidelines for Vaastu, Ayurveda and Invincible Defense etc will benefit many generations to come. A great many I should think, some people like to live in the past. I think we can do better than a type of medicine that thinks heavy metals aren't toxic once they've been heated. I know people whose children have been born with lead poisoning after believing the bullshit about ayurveda being the best system of healthcare, they sued the movement and it all got hushed up. Jai Guru Dev! And invincible defence is about as useful, unless you think ISIS are a valid part of the new golden age? Maybe you do, they are religious fundamentalists after all
Re: [FairfieldLife] ISIS Militants are Asking for It
On 7/26/2014 4:30 PM, Duveyoung wrote: Maharishi always admitted that it was to be full moonshine of the Age of Enlightenment -- not a full Sat Yugaa respite at bestI heard 10,000 years and then back to DOOM. Sorta sounds like the promised Thousand Year Reich! Sieg Hell yeah we wanted a whole age to ourselves, eh? I'm ashamed to have ever romanticized these things so much. Back then you were probably innocent, so you thought you could change the work and make it a better place, but now you've taken the whole world's guilt on your own shoulders, so you're now powerless to make any change at all, even in yourself - there's the rub. You lost your innocence and now you're guilty of ruining the world. Where is Dr. Pete when we need him? My nervous system is riddled with magical thinking routines that pop into every sort of consideration. BAH. Worse: even to this day, I have residual notions that I nurture. BAH. On the other hand, I could have worked as a mid-level executive for 30 years and seen what THAT would have done to me, eh? KARMA -- unfathomable.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: ISIS Militants are Asking for It
On 07/26/2014 01:24 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Bhairitu, These Islamists in the ME have not understood the fact that religion and the state do not mix well. The unification of religion and state leads to absolute power and the fundamentalist view of any religion leads to violence. Thus, the society does not get peace and harmony but only volatility and grief. All religions are out of date in the 21st century. Time for humanity to grow up! This also applies to the Jewish state of Israel. Yup! We're supposed to be in the Dwapara Yuga now and yet these people in the ME are still acting in Kali Yuga. Is this the purging of the karma that has accumulated in people of that land? They've been doing this crap since biblical times, as in Cain and Abel. If people are acting like it is Kali Yuga then perhaps that's a symptom that we are in Kali Yuga. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : On 07/26/2014 07:37 AM, 'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... mailto:punditster@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: On 7/25/2014 4:02 PM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: In the past few weeks they have done hideous acts that would be considered barbaric, including threats to President Obama which could be interpreted as threats to the US homeland. They are members of one big family - Hezboallah, Hamas, and ISIS and the Muslim Brotherhood. There is only one country in the whole of the Middle East that has a secular government, that supports democratic elections, freedom of religion, freedom of speech, and freedom of the press - Israel. In contrast, there are at least thirteen countries in the Middle East that support radical Islamic extremism. Within a year, I predict that the entire Middlle East will be involved in a civil war - Jordan is probably next on their list. Go figure. Gomaya. I know Israelis who have left the country because though you say democratic it's run by right wing fascists. Many Jews in America do not approve of that government either and how Palestinians have been treated. Plus ISIS is just rebranded Al-Qaeda which is just rebranded Mujahdeen and very useful for governments like the US (who supported the latter) for creating disruption as real democratic governments might tell Washington and their dollar to take a hike. Understand geopolitics much? Go figure. 'Klavan's One-State Solution: Give the Middle East to the Jews' http://youtu.be/uIEeiDjdUuU http://dailycaller.com/2014/07/24/isis-militants-destroy-biblical-site/ In astrological terms, Mars is now in conjunction with Saturn in Libra which indicate the possibility of war or violence erupting in the world. We can only assume that this will happen in Iraq specifically. As such, I believe the US will decide to use war planes and missiles to bomb specific targets in areas held by ISIS. If this doesn't work, Obama may have to send American troops back in Iraq to squelch the cancer that's spreading in the Middle East in the form of ISIS. President Obama does not need to have congressional approval to do this since the previous authority to use force in Iraq has not ended.
Re: [FairfieldLife] 2019
On 07/26/2014 01:51 PM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: *From:* salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote : It's forecast in either the book of Daniel and or Revelation that 1/3 the earths population will die at the turn of the age from wars. It begins in the Euphrates river valley. Not hard to believe at this time, with ISIS and Islamic extremism on the rise. Islam makes up close to 1/3 the population of the earth. Things could easily spiral out of control in this region, especially if Iran gets Nukes. Fortunately, prophets of the old and new testament saw the sequence of events coming, though they could not put an exact time.Christ said *no man knows the hour* but He admonished His followers to know the *season*. There still needs to be a settlement of the Jerusalem issue before a final count down of events can occur. I'm starting to feel like I'm living in the dark ages. I'm going to sacrifice my dog to the moon and read her entrails to see if I can get to the bottom of this. That's exactly what I meant by bringing up the notion of Apocalypse Believers. There have been people who believed this shit *at every moment of human history*. ALL of them thought that they were living during the most important period in history. ALL of them believed that they were at the center of incredible events. ALL of them convinced themselves that they had a clue about what was happening, and why. And from my point of view, ALL of them were just indulging in self-important self-delusion. If I were a betting man, I certainly wouldn't put my money on some crank claiming to know shit about the End Times, and predicting apocalyptic shit. The odds on them being right couldn't *possibly* be any worse, because so far not one of the people doing this has *been* right. Not one. I don't expect the next ones to be, either. Problem is in those times they didn't have nuclear weapons. That's the game changer. I'm not trusting that they'll never be used and apparently tactical nukes are being used. The canaries may sing different tunes. On Saturday, July 26, 2014 11:58 AM, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: you are saying that there will be mass death in part because people kill and eat cows? *From:* srijau@... srijau@... *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Saturday, July 26, 2014 1:53 PM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] 2019 2019 is about Saturn retrograding around the point of aspect from Ketu. I has been pointed out by Jyotishis to be similar events of the past which involved a lot of deaths. This aspect could be experienced in a good way, as these planets can also be planets of spirituality. Depends if people keep treating the earth as a trash can, keep killing people and cows, stealing other land etc. or take to Invincibility and spiritual practices...
Re: [FairfieldLife] 2019
On 07/26/2014 10:53 AM, sri...@ymail.com wrote: 2019 is about Saturn retrograding around the point of aspect from Ketu. I has been pointed out by Jyotishis to be similar events of the past which involved a lot of deaths. This aspect could be experienced in a good way, as these planets can also be planets of spirituality. Depends if people keep treating the earth as a trash can, keep killing people and cows, stealing other land etc. or take to Invincibility and spiritual practices... That's okay, we have too many people on the planet for the current infrastructure. That's not due to be changed. So it goes. BTW, if the elite retreat to their bunkers let's get a bunch of cement trucks and make the bunkers their tombs. :-D
Re: [FairfieldLife] ISIS Militants are Asking for It
MJ, The ascending cycle of Dwapara Yuga is going towards Sat Yuga. Please, see the video clip attached to this thread. Personally, I just feel that Sri Yukteshwar's concept is practical and fits in well with the present recorded history, particularly the Renaissance in the 1700s which mark the start of Dwapara Yuga. I've read different stories about MMY's ideas relating to the yugas. In one of Chopra's books, MMY was quoted as saying that we're in the Kali Yuga. However, in the years before he died, he was quoted as saying that the TMO will bring forth single-handedly the Sat Yuga. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : But Dwapara Yuga comes after Treta Yuga and BEFORE Kali Yuga. Marshy said we were heading into Sat Yuga - are you saying Marshy was wrong? From: jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2014 3:35 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] ISIS Militants are Asking for It Share, I tend to believe in Shri Yukteshwar's version of the yuga cycles. As such, we are now in the ascending cycle of the Dwapara Yuga. Kali Yuga ended around 1700 AD. Please, see the following clip for details of this concept: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0xBUIJtfFE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0xBUIJtfFE Santos Bonacci has his own explanation for this yuga cycle which is due to the precession of the earth's axis. And, this precession is caused by the Sun's elliptical dance orbit with its twin star Sirius. http://www.viewzone.com/sirius.html http://www.viewzone.com/sirius.html ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : John, I heard through a friend that one jyotishi called July 26, tomorrow, the beginning of Sat Yuga because Surya, Chandra and Guru are all in Pushya. What do you think? On Friday, July 25, 2014 4:02 PM, jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: In the past few weeks they have done hideous acts that would be considered barbaric, including threats to President Obama which could be interpreted as threats to the US homeland. http://dailycaller.com/2014/07/24/isis-militants-destroy-biblical-site/ http://dailycaller.com/2014/07/24/isis-militants-destroy-biblical-site/ In astrological terms, Mars is now in conjunction with Saturn in Libra which indicate the possibility of war or violence erupting in the world. We can only assume that this will happen in Iraq specifically. As such, I believe the US will decide to use war planes and missiles to bomb specific targets in areas held by ISIS. If this doesn't work, Obama may have to send American troops back in Iraq to squelch the cancer that's spreading in the Middle East in the form of ISIS. President Obama does not need to have congressional approval to do this since the previous authority to use force in Iraq has not ended.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: ISIS Militants are Asking for It
On 7/26/2014 5:48 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] wrote: On 07/26/2014 01:24 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Bhairitu, These Islamists in the ME have not understood the fact that religion and the state do not mix well. The unification of religion and state leads to absolute power and the fundamentalist view of any religion leads to violence. Thus, the society does not get peace and harmony but only volatility and grief. All religions are out of date in the 21st century. Time for humanity to grow up! You're way ahead of most people, but you've spent what, half your adult life at the worshiping at the feet of your Mother Goddess. Universal freedom of belief would be a better solution - having no religions is a form of radical fundamentalism. People should be able to believe anything they want to believe. Otherwise, who will be the thought police? Go figure. This also applies to the Jewish state of Israel. Yup! We're supposed to be in the Dwapara Yuga now and yet these people in the ME are still acting in Kali Yuga. Is this the purging of the karma that has accumulated in people of that land? They've been doing this crap since biblical times, as in Cain and Abel. If people are acting like it is Kali Yuga then perhaps that's a symptom that we are in Kali Yuga. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : On 07/26/2014 07:37 AM, 'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... mailto:punditster@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: On 7/25/2014 4:02 PM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: In the past few weeks they have done hideous acts that would be considered barbaric, including threats to President Obama which could be interpreted as threats to the US homeland. They are members of one big family - Hezboallah, Hamas, and ISIS and the Muslim Brotherhood. There is only one country in the whole of the Middle East that has a secular government, that supports democratic elections, freedom of religion, freedom of speech, and freedom of the press - Israel. In contrast, there are at least thirteen countries in the Middle East that support radical Islamic extremism. Within a year, I predict that the entire Middlle East will be involved in a civil war - Jordan is probably next on their list. Go figure. Gomaya. I know Israelis who have left the country because though you say democratic it's run by right wing fascists. Many Jews in America do not approve of that government either and how Palestinians have been treated. Plus ISIS is just rebranded Al-Qaeda which is just rebranded Mujahdeen and very useful for governments like the US (who supported the latter) for creating disruption as real democratic governments might tell Washington and their dollar to take a hike. Understand geopolitics much? Go figure. 'Klavan's One-State Solution: Give the Middle East to the Jews' http://youtu.be/uIEeiDjdUuU http://dailycaller.com/2014/07/24/isis-militants-destroy-biblical-site/ In astrological terms, Mars is now in conjunction with Saturn in Libra which indicate the possibility of war or violence erupting in the world. We can only assume that this will happen in Iraq specifically. As such, I believe the US will decide to use war planes and missiles to bomb specific targets in areas held by ISIS. If this doesn't work, Obama may have to send American troops back in Iraq to squelch the cancer that's spreading in the Middle East in the form of ISIS. President Obama does not need to have congressional approval to do this since the previous authority to use force in Iraq has not ended.
Re: [FairfieldLife] 2019
On 7/26/2014 5:52 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] wrote: On 07/26/2014 01:51 PM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: *From:* salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote : It's forecast in either the book of Daniel and or Revelation that 1/3 the earths population will die at the turn of the age from wars. It begins in the Euphrates river valley. Not hard to believe at this time, with ISIS and Islamic extremism on the rise. Islam makes up close to 1/3 the population of the earth. Things could easily spiral out of control in this region, especially if Iran gets Nukes. Fortunately, prophets of the old and new testament saw the sequence of events coming, though they could not put an exact time.Christ said *no man knows the hour* but He admonished His followers to know the *season*. There still needs to be a settlement of the Jerusalem issue before a final count down of events can occur. I'm starting to feel like I'm living in the dark ages. I'm going to sacrifice my dog to the moon and read her entrails to see if I can get to the bottom of this. That's exactly what I meant by bringing up the notion of Apocalypse Believers. There have been people who believed this shit *at every moment of human history*. ALL of them thought that they were living during the most important period in history. ALL of them believed that they were at the center of incredible events. ALL of them convinced themselves that they had a clue about what was happening, and why. And from my point of view, ALL of them were just indulging in self-important self-delusion. If I were a betting man, I certainly wouldn't put my money on some crank claiming to know shit about the End Times, and predicting apocalyptic shit. The odds on them being right couldn't *possibly* be any worse, because so far not one of the people doing this has *been* right. Not one. I don't expect the next ones to be, either. Problem is in those times they didn't have nuclear weapons. That's the game changer. I'm not trusting that they'll never be used and apparently tactical nukes are being used. The canaries may sing different tunes. You realize you're responding to a guy that didn't even know that a civilian jetliner had been shot down over Ukraine, right? On Saturday, July 26, 2014 11:58 AM, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: you are saying that there will be mass death in part because people kill and eat cows? *From:* srijau@... srijau@... *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Saturday, July 26, 2014 1:53 PM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] 2019 2019 is about Saturn retrograding around the point of aspect from Ketu. I has been pointed out by Jyotishis to be similar events of the past which involved a lot of deaths. This aspect could be experienced in a good way, as these planets can also be planets of spirituality. Depends if people keep treating the earth as a trash can, keep killing people and cows, stealing other land etc. or take to Invincibility and spiritual practices...
Re: [FairfieldLife] 2019
On 07/26/2014 10:53 AM, sri...@ymail.com wrote: 2019 is about Saturn retrograding around the point of aspect from Ketu. I has been pointed out by Jyotishis to be similar events of the past which involved a lot of deaths. This aspect could be experienced in a good way, as these planets can also be planets of spirituality. Depends if people keep treating the earth as a trash can, keep killing people and cows, stealing other land etc. or take to Invincibility and spiritual practices... On 7/26/2014 5:56 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] wrote: That's okay, we have too many people on the planet for the current infrastructure. That's not due to be changed. So it goes. The two Barry's seem to think it's a good idea to eliminate some people because they think there's too many people on the planet - which is the reason the two Barrys are so poor. One wants to hang people without a trial and the other want to nuke the Jews AND the Arabs. Where I come from, silence usually indicates agreement. BTW, if the elite retreat to their bunkers let's get a bunch of cement trucks and make the bunkers their tombs. :-D Your pals over in Gaza need that cement for their tunnels. Do all of your solutions depend on violence? Go figure.
Re: [FairfieldLife] ISIS Militants are Asking for It
Wrong: Satya Yuga (also called Krita Yuga) This first age is 1,728,000 human years. Also known as the Golden Age or age of Truth. The qualities of this age are: virtue reigns supreme; human stature is 21 cubits; lifespan is a lakh of years, and death occurs only when willed. Treta Yuga This second age is 1,296,000 human years. Also known as the Silver Age. The qualities of this age are: the climate is three quarters virtue and one quarter sin; human stature is 14 cubits; lifespan is 10,000 years. Dvapara Yuga This third age is 864,000 human years. Also known as the Bronze Age. The qualities of this age are: the climate is one half virtue and one half sin; lifespan is 1,000 years. Kali Yuga The fourth and last age is 432,000 human years. Also known as the Iron Age. This is the age in which we are presently living. The qualities of this age are: the climate is one quarter virtue and three quarters sin; human stature is 3.5 cubits; lifespan is 100 or 120 years. From: jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2014 7:38 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] ISIS Militants are Asking for It MJ, The ascending cycle of Dwapara Yuga is going towards Sat Yuga. Please, see the video clip attached to this thread. Personally, I just feel that Sri Yukteshwar's concept is practical and fits in well with the present recorded history, particularly the Renaissance in the 1700s which mark the start of Dwapara Yuga. I've read different stories about MMY's ideas relating to the yugas. In one of Chopra's books, MMY was quoted as saying that we're in the Kali Yuga. However, in the years before he died, he was quoted as saying that the TMO will bring forth single-handedly the Sat Yuga. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : But Dwapara Yuga comes after Treta Yuga and BEFORE Kali Yuga. Marshy said we were heading into Sat Yuga - are you saying Marshy was wrong? From: jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2014 3:35 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] ISIS Militants are Asking for It Share, I tend to believe in Shri Yukteshwar's version of the yuga cycles. As such, we are now in the ascending cycle of the Dwapara Yuga. Kali Yuga ended around 1700 AD. Please, see the following clip for details of this concept: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0xBUIJtfFE Santos Bonacci has his own explanation for this yuga cycle which is due to the precession of the earth's axis. And, this precession is caused by the Sun's elliptical dance orbit with its twin star Sirius. http://www.viewzone.com/sirius.html ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : John, I heard through a friend that one jyotishi called July 26, tomorrow, the beginning of Sat Yuga because Surya, Chandra and Guru are all in Pushya. What do you think? On Friday, July 25, 2014 4:02 PM, jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: In the past few weeks they have done hideous acts that would be considered barbaric, including threats to President Obama which could be interpreted as threats to the US homeland. http://dailycaller.com/2014/07/24/isis-militants-destroy-biblical-site/ In astrological terms, Mars is now in conjunction with Saturn in Libra which indicate the possibility of war or violence erupting in the world. We can only assume that this will happen in Iraq specifically. As such, I believe the US will decide to use war planes and missiles to bomb specific targets in areas held by ISIS. If this doesn't work, Obama may have to send American troops back in Iraq to squelch the cancer that's spreading in the Middle East in the form of ISIS. President Obama does not need to have congressional approval to do this since the previous authority to use force in Iraq has not ended.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] ISIS Militants are Asking for It
Share, I find it hard to believe that we're in Sat Yuga at this time. Why do we have wars in the world? Why do we have barbaric militants who kill others for not believing in their version of Islam? Why do we still have people living in hunger, poverty and ignorance? It appears that some people are still living in Kali Yuga. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : John, is it not fascinating that Sat Yuga reportedly is beginning on July 26, 2014 and July 23 is the day every year when the Nile floods and Sirius can be seen on the horizon just before the Sun?! On Saturday, July 26, 2014 2:35 PM, jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Share, I tend to believe in Shri Yukteshwar's version of the yuga cycles. As such, we are now in the ascending cycle of the Dwapara Yuga. Kali Yuga ended around 1700 AD. Please, see the following clip for details of this concept: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0xBUIJtfFE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0xBUIJtfFE Santos Bonacci has his own explanation for this yuga cycle which is due to the precession of the earth's axis. And, this precession is caused by the Sun's elliptical dance orbit with its twin star Sirius. http://www.viewzone.com/sirius.html http://www.viewzone.com/sirius.html ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : John, I heard through a friend that one jyotishi called July 26, tomorrow, the beginning of Sat Yuga because Surya, Chandra and Guru are all in Pushya. What do you think? On Friday, July 25, 2014 4:02 PM, jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: In the past few weeks they have done hideous acts that would be considered barbaric, including threats to President Obama which could be interpreted as threats to the US homeland. http://dailycaller.com/2014/07/24/isis-militants-destroy-biblical-site/ http://dailycaller.com/2014/07/24/isis-militants-destroy-biblical-site/ In astrological terms, Mars is now in conjunction with Saturn in Libra which indicate the possibility of war or violence erupting in the world. We can only assume that this will happen in Iraq specifically. As such, I believe the US will decide to use war planes and missiles to bomb specific targets in areas held by ISIS. If this doesn't work, Obama may have to send American troops back in Iraq to squelch the cancer that's spreading in the Middle East in the form of ISIS. President Obama does not need to have congressional approval to do this since the previous authority to use force in Iraq has not ended.
Re: [FairfieldLife] 7/21-23 - Maharishi: A discussion of karma and not speaking ill of others
Finally! We seem to be getting somewhere. Thank God! So, MJ, I understand now that you see TM as a public scourge that must be addressed. And who else but the public health crusader, Michael Jackson to take on the task, as you seem to have done. But, pray, tell me. Where on scale does TM rate in your estimation? Let's say you have Boko Haram on one end, Miley Cyrus on the other, and animal testing somewhere in the middle. Where does TM fit in? Or maybe tobacco. Would you put TM in a higher or lower ranking than tobacco use? Feel free to include chewing tobacco in your analysis. Are you shooting for a warning label on any advertising for TM? TM may not lead to enlightenment is three to five years You may still continue to have personal issues you need to work on, even after prolonged practice of TM Something along these lines? At any rate Michael, good luck with your new endeavor. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : And yet its ok for the TMO to rave on endlessly about how fabulous and without blemish TM is when we all know differently? Some of us feel that exposure of hypocrisy and activities including solicitation to meditate that does actual harm in the context of what has become a bona fide cult is a positive thing for our society at large. Unfortunately since so many of the joe and jane doe's of our society look no farther than Oh Jennifer Anniston is a TM'er! TM must be god! and the celebrity driven lies the David Lynch promotes, the real info about TM from people like Gina Catena is marginalized. But in case you haven't noticed, TM has STILL not become a common practice among the world's population. The reason? The claims for just TM alone, not to mention all the adjunct programs are unrealistic and unsustainable. The outrageous claims that Marshy made that have become dogma amongst TM'ers were made from Marshy's hubris and his confidence that his followers were so stupid and locked into his vibe that they would follow him and give him money no matter what he claimed. Now that he's gone, the TMO can never hope to keep its medicine show going when it is looked at in the light of day. But there are some of us who do like to shine the light of truth and common sense onto the lies that back TM. From: Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2014 11:31 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] 7/21-23 - Maharishi: A discussion of karma and not speaking ill of others Xeno, thank you for taking the time to reply. As much as I love logic and Mr. Spock, in terms of considering what someone says or writes, I tend to go more by how someone's energy feels to me. I notice that I tend to enjoy more settled expressions, especially if they're positive. But also enjoy dry wit and commentary. I've come to the conclusion that online relationships and communities are uncharted territory for most of us. So I take everything presented here with a grain of salt. I think it's silly for people to comment on the TMO, etc. when they haven't been around it for decades! I also think that ragging on anyone and anything over and over is an indication that a person has unresolved childhood issues and has found a safe scapegoat. I could be wrong. And if I am, I'm sure life will straighten me out. Eventually (-: On Friday, July 25, 2014 1:22 PM, anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Share, But logically, this is incorrect. While psychologically one might doubt a person's statement because of his/her known character and reliability, the truth of a statement made by someone can only logically be determined if it corresponds to an actual fact. The fact the person is a scoundrel and liar does not prove a statement is false. This is the classic ad hominem argument, where you attack the character of the source of the statement to supposedly prove a statement is false. Except this does not prove the statement false. It may make you assume the statement is false, but an assumption is not a fact. It is an emotional misdirection, classically used by politicians all the time. The reverse of this argument is pro hominem, 'argument for the man' in which one supposes a statement is true because so-and-so made it. It is equally invalid. That Maharishi was something of a scoundrel seems fairly well established, but the evidence is from my point of view largely circumstantial. It has psychological weight but further investigation, which I certainly will not carry out, would be needed to substantiate it. That similar things occurred with figures in the movement that I was more familiar with adds to that psychological weight and indicates a certain pattern of behaviour within the upper echelons of the movement that
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you wouldn't think I would have to inform of Yuga Sandhi to someone who claims to understand to be some sort of Vedic and Jyotishi. see also Aryabhatta
[FairfieldLife] Dear MJ,
Dear MJ, Don't you think it's ironic that you have a dislike, is that what you would call it, a dislike for TM and the TMO. And yet you spend your time, your time that you could be spending with your beloved if you have one, your children if you have any, your grandchildren if you have any, living a creative, happy and fulfilling life. Instead you find yourself on a daily basis feeding a habit. Your ego feeding a habit. You have an addiction my friend, and if you think not, don't respond to this post. Don't respond to any post on FFL. Don't post anything to FFL for at least seven days. I sense everyone else that has ever posted to FFL could walk away from this forum for good relatively easily. But you my friend, I sense you might find it difficult to last even seven days. Addictions aren't easy to break MJ. Just take it one day at a time . . . As for me, this is my last post, and I won't be watching to see if you continue allowing your ego to make a fool of you. Good fortune my friend, I hope we meet up in person some time.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Satya Yuga
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : I know people whose children have been born with lead poisoning after believing the bullshit about ayurveda being the best system of healthcare, they sued the movement and it all got hushed up. Jai Guru Dev! Whoa! Lets have some details on this one! This happened in the UK? How long ago? And the babies actually had lead poisoning? There must be different rules in the UK - I don't think the ayurvedic medicines that contain the heavy metals are allowed by law here in the US. Do they allow them in the UK or did the parents get them surreptitiously? How did the lawsuits come out? You have to get the stuff from India to get the full benefits. I have no other details, I can't name names. I knew the girl concerned but hadn't seen her for ages - this happened some time ago and I only found out recently. It amazes me how something like that that really ought to blow things apart gets forgotten about very quickly to protect the ludicrously idealistic view of the world they promote. The golden age must have been grim with health care like this, mind you life expectancy was extremely low in India when the vedas were written so maybe they just never got to find out how poor the drugs were. I am of course extremely pissed off that she got involved with these snake oil salesmen and that it ended like that. I know there are others that got ill in Indian clinics recommended by Marshy and sued the TMO but we never find out how they got on. Must be some sort of non-disclosure agreement. I remember being on a foreign course and being really pleased that we could get hold of AV stuff with the correct ingredients that are stupidly forbidden in Europe, if only we were more enlightened eh? Strange, there have been thousands of people/children poisoned by lead in all sorts of toys, venetian blinds and household products for decades/centuries now. Are they sure it was from Ayurvedic use? A fine example of cult thinking, Lead in toys and petrol was banned when it was discovered to be dangerous. This is the difference between science and religion, science is self correcting - when something is found to be wrong it is changed for a superior explanation. And in the case of medicine, a less dangerous one. The believers in received wisdom can't change their beliefs because they come from a higher power, so if something goes wrong they have to cope with it in some way. perhaps by making light of it as you've just done or just by being in plain denial, as the TMO have done or by pretending this person never existed and carrying on offering people the world's most perfect system of healthcare. Or by scapegoating, which means they'll try and find some other factor to be responsible like bad karma or a lack of belief or non-conformity in the groups ideals. All to make up for the errors in faulty knowledge that they live by, this girl probably didn't contribute enough to the yagya programme or criticized the TMO when she was turned down for TTC, karma is unfathomable etc From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2014 2:28 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Satya Yuga ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Many Saints and traditions have indicated a Golden Age is starting now. Wow, it must be true then, they are usually so reliable. We also have this date from the Srimad Bhagavatam and recent dates which have past according to other traditions. Maharishi had every right to Celebrate the Dawn while he was here, being the greatest earthly architect of the transformation. His guidelines for Vaastu, Ayurveda and Invincible Defense etc will benefit many generations to come. A great many I should think, some people like to live in the past. I think we can do better than a type of medicine that thinks heavy metals aren't toxic once they've been heated. I know people whose children have been born with lead poisoning after believing the bullshit about ayurveda being the best system of healthcare, they sued the movement and it all got hushed up. Jai Guru Dev! And invincible defence is about as useful, unless you think ISIS are a valid part of the new golden age? Maybe you do, they are religious fundamentalists after all
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Satya Yuga
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : I know people whose children have been born with lead poisoning after believing the bullshit about ayurveda being the best system of healthcare, they sued the movement and it all got hushed up. Jai Guru Dev! Whoa! Lets have some details on this one! This happened in the UK? How long ago? And the babies actually had lead poisoning? There must be different rules in the UK - I don't think the ayurvedic medicines that contain the heavy metals are allowed by law here in the US. Do they allow them in the UK or did the parents get them surreptitiously? How did the lawsuits come out? Whoa, take it easy MJ, don't have a stroke. You say it like it isn't an important subject, like maybe we shouldn't care all that much How would you feel about being in that situation? Not only your offspring made ill, but in a group of people who would rather you disappeared so they could forget about the discrepancy in their world view rather than drop it for something more sane? From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2014 2:28 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Satya Yuga ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Many Saints and traditions have indicated a Golden Age is starting now. Wow, it must be true then, they are usually so reliable. We also have this date from the Srimad Bhagavatam and recent dates which have past according to other traditions. Maharishi had every right to Celebrate the Dawn while he was here, being the greatest earthly architect of the transformation. His guidelines for Vaastu, Ayurveda and Invincible Defense etc will benefit many generations to come. A great many I should think, some people like to live in the past. I think we can do better than a type of medicine that thinks heavy metals aren't toxic once they've been heated. I know people whose children have been born with lead poisoning after believing the bullshit about ayurveda being the best system of healthcare, they sued the movement and it all got hushed up. Jai Guru Dev! And invincible defence is about as useful, unless you think ISIS are a valid part of the new golden age? Maybe you do, they are religious fundamentalists after all
