[FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO

2005-04-06 Thread Bob Brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 4/6/05 6:45 PM, Bob Brigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > Oh, come on, he liked the incense and the public acclaim? It's > > ridiculous, he had avoided contact with people just as much as > > possible for ma

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO

2005-04-06 Thread Rick Archer
on 4/6/05 7:21 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> There's a lesson in the SCI course where M says TM is the only > way, but he >> goes on to say that anything which transcends it's own activity is > TM. > > > > > Are you sure he used the word "only"? I remember him saying "TM i

[FairfieldLife] Re: Time & Breath & Awareness, was Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO

2005-04-06 Thread L B Shriver
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Ultimately, what must be accomplished, is breath must stop to > really > > "get behind reality". It's a death really. Death while li

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO

2005-04-06 Thread Rick Archer
on 4/6/05 6:45 PM, Bob Brigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Oh, come on, he liked the incense and the public acclaim? It's > ridiculous, he had avoided contact with people just as much as > possible for many years (the little book about his life reminds us > that for a sage, "solitude is the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO

2005-04-06 Thread Rick Archer
on 4/6/05 6:29 PM, wayback71 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> ** > Bob Brigante wrote: >> There was no reason for Guru Dev to abandon his life of bliss in the >> forest unless it was his intention to give householders of the world >> the opportunity to enjoy that bliss, too. > > Bo

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO

2005-04-06 Thread rudra_joe
Yes, sure -- for some reason, I never thought of linking the two concepts together like that. (I instead looked into mantras for 144 subcategories of the Solar wheel, each covering 2.5 days, and went on in that direction, working out various layers of macro-micro correlation from the akash

[FairfieldLife] Re: Does Quantum Soup Cause Paralysis?

2005-04-06 Thread crukstrom
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: (snip) However, when someone starts talking about > experinces of CC it is very clear, if you have had > such experiences, if they are speaking out of > conceptual belief or direct experince. Just curious, but do

Re: [FairfieldLife] The Truth Is!

2005-04-06 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 4/6/05 3:26:49 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It's amazing to see people pay $5800.00 plus room and board so they can BE what they already are! :-) ROFLOLActually, it's all about getting money to pay for the completion of the pundit project.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Anti-depressants vs TM

2005-04-06 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Bob, > I don't know exactly where I could find studies supporting the fact > that anti-depressants treat depression effectively--seems that the very > fact that many take them and report successful results is a s

[FairfieldLife] Re: Time & Breath & Awareness, was Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO

2005-04-06 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ultimately, what must be accomplished, is breath must stop to really > "get behind reality". It's a death really. Death while living. Yes, familiar with that death. Not positive it was accompanied at that time by comp

[FairfieldLife] Anti-depressants vs TM

2005-04-06 Thread Sal Sunshine
Bob, I don't know exactly where I could find studies supporting the fact that anti-depressants treat depression effectively--seems that the very fact that many take them and report successful results is a study in itself. And seeing as how most of the ones in use now have been around for a number

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Does Quantum Soup Cause Paralysis?

2005-04-06 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Well thank god Peter that you have nothing of > substance to add and > dwell on tiertiary allusions of humor. K > > > So the point still holds: if one talks about > something > from a basis of experience to a person who has an > experiential

[FairfieldLife] Re: Time & Breath & Awareness, was Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO

2005-04-06 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Apr 6, 2005, at 8:12 PM, Rory Goff wrote: > > > Yes, sure -- for some reason, I never thought of linking the two > > concepts together like that. (I instead looked into mantras for 144 > > subcategories of the Solar wh

[FairfieldLife] Time & Breath & Awareness, was Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO

2005-04-06 Thread Vaj
On Apr 6, 2005, at 8:12 PM, Rory Goff wrote: > Yes, sure -- for some reason, I never thought of linking the two > concepts together like that. (I instead looked into mantras for 144 > subcategories of the Solar wheel, each covering 2.5 days, and went > on in that direction, working out various l

[FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO

2005-04-06 Thread jim_flanegin
Jai Guru Dev, Bob. Thanks, Jim --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Brigante" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > : > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > w

[FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO

2005-04-06 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 4/6/05 1:52 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >> The logic appeals to me too. But I've now met and read too many > > people doing > >> well on other spiritual paths to believe, as I once did, that TM

[FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO

2005-04-06 Thread wayback71
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > : > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > on 4/6/05 7:16 AM, jim_flanegin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I completely agree

[FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO

2005-04-06 Thread Bob Brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > : > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > on 4/6/05 7:16 AM, jim_flanegin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > > > I completely agree. What I was exploring i

[FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO

2005-04-06 Thread wayback71
: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 4/6/05 7:16 AM, jim_flanegin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > I completely agree. What I was exploring in that larger message > was a > > > logical link between Guru Dev's desire to enlighten the E

[FairfieldLife] Re: full-time teacher of TM

2005-04-06 Thread wayback71
The emails from the local rajas in my area suggested that 1. only people who committed to full time teaching could go on the recert course 2. you would choose or be assigned an area in which to work to teach and build a peace palace 3. salary of $4,ooo per month begins when you complet

[FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO

2005-04-06 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > These are related to the lunar and solar channels > which when joined transform karmic prana into "jnanic" (transcendental) > prana. These channels are the ascending and descending star-signs of > the year. The inner zod

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO

2005-04-06 Thread black7788
I LIKE THAT   - Original Message - From: Vaj To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 7:37 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO On Apr 6, 2005, at 7:19 PM, Rory Goff wrote:>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO

2005-04-06 Thread Vaj
On Apr 6, 2005, at 7:19 PM, Rory Goff wrote: > I was hoping for a breakdown of the > mechanics behind them, but this is most helpful. You would need to receive transmission of the kalachakra-tantra and then get a lung (reading transmission) to read the texts. Otherwise read the shiva-svaroday

[FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO

2005-04-06 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Apr 6, 2005, at 6:55 PM, Rory Goff wrote: > > > Good one. What's your take on the signicance of 108? My current > > understanding (open to revision) is 9 Lokas X 12 Aditya/Archetypes = > > 108 Loka-Archetypes. (I am mo

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO

2005-04-06 Thread Rick Archer
on 4/6/05 4:27 PM, Bob Brigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > When asked why his master, Guru Dev, didn't stick around and > enlighten the world, Maharishi said that this would be "too small a > task" for Guru Dev. It's true. He said something like "one small planet was beneath his dignity"

[FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO

2005-04-06 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "rudra_joe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 4 padas of 27 nakshatras or phases of the moon/mind/heart nadis. Hey, thanks, RJ! Some stuff on the mechanics of the nakshatras popped up some time back; didn't think to look at a quad-unfoldment of them. (May tie

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO

2005-04-06 Thread Vaj
On Apr 6, 2005, at 6:55 PM, Rory Goff wrote: > Good one. What's your take on the signicance of 108? My current > understanding (open to revision) is 9 Lokas X 12 Aditya/Archetypes = > 108 Loka-Archetypes. (I am more familiar with the 144 as compassing a > more "fractal" or holographic approach t

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO

2005-04-06 Thread rudra_joe
 4 padas of 27 nakshatras or phases of the moon/mind/heart nadis. - Original Message - From: Rory Goff To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 5:55 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM &

[FairfieldLife] Re: Geometries of Consciousness into Akasha

2005-04-06 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "rudra_joe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Oh alright. Sounds like you got it all worked out. Except for one > thing which is that ascension and descention are dualistic a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Brain meltdown v. head chakra experience (was: Possessed?)

2005-04-06 Thread rudra_joe
Head soma melts navel soma, they function together, the ten sister fingers press the soma through the sieve of the brain glands into the shakata barrels of the groin and together they create the vaishvanara lake of colored soma. - Original Message - From: peterklutz To:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO

2005-04-06 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Apr 6, 2005, at 2:46 PM, jim_flanegin wrote: > > > How many bedrooms? > > 108 I believe Good one. What's your take on the signicance of 108? My current understanding (open to revision) is 9 Lokas X 12 Aditya/Archetyp

[FairfieldLife] Re: Brain meltdown v. head chakra experience (was: Possessed?)

2005-04-06 Thread peterklutz
So, the argument has come full circle.. (from possession, to vampiricism, by way of a 'melting(?)' Soma Chakra) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Apr 6, 2005, at 5:01 PM, peterklutz wrote: > > > Given your reply to the original posting, I got the im

[FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO

2005-04-06 Thread jim_flanegin
Thanks for the correlation regarding Krishna in the Gita. I just looked it up. Jim --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Brigante" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > Yes, that is my understanding. I

[FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO

2005-04-06 Thread Bob Brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yes, that is my understanding. I want to be clear that I am not > trying to convince others about this. I heard somewhere that Guru > Dev could've done it Himself but it would've been too easy for Him; > not

[FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO

2005-04-06 Thread Bob Brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "peterklutz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Were there any attempts by the TMO to merge/assimilate Scientology? > *** Maharishi was not saying that there was anything good about Scientology -- the implication was quite the opposite: if L.

[FairfieldLife]

2005-04-06 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Apr 6, 2005, at 4:36 PM, FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Once you complete the certification training, are you guaranteed to have a working position which pays the promised salary? Sure. But by that time the promised salary will be zero.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO

2005-04-06 Thread Bob Brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 4/6/05 7:16 AM, jim_flanegin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > I completely agree. What I was exploring in that larger message was a > > logical link between Guru Dev's desire to enlighten the Earth and His > >

[FairfieldLife] (unknown)

2005-04-06 Thread Bob Brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Apr 5, 2005, at 10:57 PM, FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: > > > The whole purpose of scientific research is to avoid having to rely > > on anecdotal evidence. I've never taken any anti-depressants, > > Tha

[FairfieldLife] Re: Geometries of Consciousness into Akasha

2005-04-06 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "rudra_joe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Oh alright. Sounds like you got it all worked out. Except for one thing which is that ascension and descention are dualistic and therefore not of the present. I don't really see what ascension or descension there

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO

2005-04-06 Thread Rick Archer
on 4/6/05 1:52 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> The logic appeals to me too. But I've now met and read too many > people doing >> well on other spiritual paths to believe, as I once did, that TM > corners the >> spiritual marketplace. > > What does "cornering the spiritual marketpl

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO

2005-04-06 Thread Rick Archer
on 4/6/05 1:55 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> on 4/6/05 12:04 PM, jim_flanegin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote> >>> >>> Excellent! I have always found that healthy skepticism works > wonders! >>> >>> I

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Brain meltdown v. head chakra experience (was: Possessed?)

2005-04-06 Thread Vaj
On Apr 6, 2005, at 5:01 PM, peterklutz wrote: > Given your reply to the original posting, I got the impression you > might have another take on the experience. > > Would you care to elaborate, or was it just a joke? It sounds like you might be describing "Briganate syndrome", a rare disorder,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Brain meltdown v. head chakra experience (was: Possessed?)

2005-04-06 Thread peterklutz
Given your reply to the original posting, I got the impression you might have another take on the experience. Would you care to elaborate, or was it just a joke? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "rudra_joe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yeah. > - Original Message - > From: p

[FairfieldLife] Pashupatinath

2005-04-06 Thread rudra_joe
KATHMANDU, NEPAL, April 4, 2005: A 17th-century icon of the Hindu God  Vishnu has been stolen from Nepal's world famous Pashupatinath temple,  Xinhua reports. The two-and-a-half-foot tall Shankar Narayan icon was  stolen Sunday night from the heavily guarded temple located in the  city. Pa

Re: [FairfieldLife] Brain meltdown v. head chakra experience (was: Possessed?)

2005-04-06 Thread rudra_joe
Yeah. - Original Message - From: peterklutz To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 3:22 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Brain meltdown v. head chakra experience (was: Possessed?) Really..?Is this guy alright?   http://images.exotic

Re: [FairfieldLife] Brain meltdown v. head chakra experience (was: Possessed?)

2005-04-06 Thread Vaj
That's one of Harish Johari's paintings. On Apr 6, 2005, at 4:22 PM, peterklutz wrote: > Really..? > > Is this guy alright? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To vis

Re: [FairfieldLife] full-time teacher of TM

2005-04-06 Thread Don
anonymousff wrote: > > > Once you complete the certification training, are you guaranteed to have > a working position which pays the promised salary? > > anyone knows if there is a catch to it and where? :) I think the most recent email from one of the Rajas (forwarded here from a list membe

[FairfieldLife] full-time teacher of TM

2005-04-06 Thread anonymousff
Once you complete the certification training, are you guaranteed to have a working position which pays the promised salary? anyone knows if there is a catch to it and where? :) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ an

[FairfieldLife] Brain meltdown v. head chakra experience (was: Possessed?)

2005-04-06 Thread peterklutz
Really..? Is this guy alright? http://images.exoticindiaart.com/tantra/ht68.jpg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "rudra_joe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Fool, that's soma chakra melting from the sahasra. > - Original Message - > From: peterklutz > To: FairfieldLife@

[FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO

2005-04-06 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 4/6/05 12:04 PM, jim_flanegin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote> > > > > Excellent! I have always found that healthy skepticism works wonders! > > > > I also heard that if you can imagine it, it exists. Or put another

[FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO

2005-04-06 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 4/6/05 11:23 AM, Don at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > Rick Archer wrote: > > > >> on 4/6/05 7:09 AM, peterklutz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >>> > >>> I've never done TTC, but, as you indicate - I would find

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO

2005-04-06 Thread Vaj
On Apr 6, 2005, at 2:46 PM, jim_flanegin wrote: > How many bedrooms? 108 I believe To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: htt

[FairfieldLife] Re: Possessed?

2005-04-06 Thread peterklutz
And what does that mean..? Is it good? Bad? People don't look too happy when it happens. Please answer before nurse Diesel makes her next round. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "rudra_joe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Fool, that's soma chakra melting from the sahasra. > - Origi

Re: [FairfieldLife] Possessed?

2005-04-06 Thread rudra_joe
Fool, that's soma chakra melting from the sahasra. - Original Message - From: peterklutz To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 1:04 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Possessed? Remarkably often in TM-settings, I've encountered people

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO

2005-04-06 Thread rudra_joe
TM for me was good shamatha with focus, with some extra knowledge.  Frankly it doesn't beat awareness of the present however. As a chef, I work very in the present, and like other hunter/gatherers who forage amongst great enemies my senses have to be very alert, so prolly this is why I fin

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Geometries of Consciousness into Akasha

2005-04-06 Thread rudra_joe
Oh alright. Sounds like you got it all worked out. Except for one thing which is that ascension and descention are dualistic and therefore not of the present.  I don't really see what ascension or descension there is since all is suffering. Though I do know what drug highs and lows feel li

[FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO

2005-04-06 Thread jim_flanegin
How many bedrooms? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Apr 6, 2005, at 1:01 PM, jim_flanegin wrote: > > > He works with > > unceasingly from his throne on Brahmaloka > > Old news. He's now in a condo. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECT

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO

2005-04-06 Thread Vaj
On Apr 6, 2005, at 1:01 PM, jim_flanegin wrote: > He works with > unceasingly from his throne on Brahmaloka Old news. He's now in a condo. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups L

[FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO

2005-04-06 Thread jim_flanegin
It has to be taken with the earlier statement about discriminating between what is Real and what is not. Once one is tuned to that Reality, then, if you imagine these purple things outside your window I would say, Yes they are probably there. On the other hand, about the food, unless you are

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO

2005-04-06 Thread Rick Archer
on 4/6/05 12:26 PM, Don at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:> > > Rick Archer wrote: > >> on 4/6/05 12:14 PM, Don at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:> >>> >>> Rick Archer wrote: >>> on 4/6/05 10:40 AM, peterklutz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Were there any attempts by the TMO to merge/assimila

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO

2005-04-06 Thread Don
Rick Archer wrote: > on 4/6/05 12:14 PM, Don at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:> > > > > Rick Archer wrote: > > > >> on 4/6/05 10:40 AM, peterklutz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >>> > >>> Were there any attempts by the TMO to merge/assimilate Scientology? > >> > >> Not that I know of. Nor did I ever h

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO

2005-04-06 Thread Don
Rick Archer wrote: > on 4/6/05 11:54 AM, peterklutz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > Technique versus content.. > > > > Is it useful to compare a meditation technique and a person using it > > with a driver and a car? > > > > Yes, there are different kinds of cars, but what determines who wi

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO

2005-04-06 Thread Rick Archer
on 4/6/05 12:14 PM, Don at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:> > > Rick Archer wrote: > >> on 4/6/05 10:40 AM, peterklutz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>> >>> Were there any attempts by the TMO to merge/assimilate Scientology? >> >> Not that I know of. Nor did I ever hear MMY explain how he had gotten su

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO

2005-04-06 Thread Rick Archer
on 4/6/05 12:04 PM, jim_flanegin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote> > > Excellent! I have always found that healthy skepticism works wonders! > > I also heard that if you can imagine it, it exists. Or put another way > there is nothing that can be imagined that doesn't exist. So if I imagine that lit

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO

2005-04-06 Thread Don
Rick Archer wrote: > on 4/6/05 10:40 AM, peterklutz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > Were there any attempts by the TMO to merge/assimilate Scientology? > > Not that I know of. Nor did I ever hear MMY explain how he had gotten such a > favorable impression of L. Ron Hubbard. Hearing that MM

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO

2005-04-06 Thread Don
Rick Archer wrote: > on 4/6/05 11:23 AM, Don at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > Rick Archer wrote: > > > >> on 4/6/05 7:09 AM, peterklutz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >>> > >>> I've never done TTC, but, as you indicate - I would find it to be in > >>> character with MMY to poke holes in other

[FairfieldLife] Possessed?

2005-04-06 Thread peterklutz
Remarkably often in TM-settings, I've encountered people who appear possessed or remotely-controlled, it appears to start as a burning sensation descending into the Sahasrara chakra like fingers digging in. I've seen something similar with animals in the vicinity of flying halls, too. Any word

[FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO

2005-04-06 Thread jim_flanegin
Excellent! I have always found that healthy skepticism works wonders! I also heard that if you can imagine it, it exists. Or put another way there is nothing that can be imagined that doesn't exist. So yes, I probably do have an over-active imagination, though I am not sure what that is exac

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO

2005-04-06 Thread Rick Archer
on 4/6/05 11:54 AM, peterklutz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Technique versus content.. > > Is it useful to compare a meditation technique and a person using it > with a driver and a car? > > Yes, there are different kinds of cars, but what determines who wins > the race is the sincerity and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO

2005-04-06 Thread jim_flanegin
Thanks, Jim --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > So the thing is I am a seeker after the truth, Reality, as we all > are. > > What I have found is by medi

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO

2005-04-06 Thread Rick Archer
on 4/6/05 11:50 AM, jim_flanegin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > So the thing is I am a seeker after the truth, Reality, as we all are. > What I have found is by meditation and discrimination, the false > becomes seperated from the non-false. After awhile the vibrations of > both become known. Na

[FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO

2005-04-06 Thread peterklutz
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 4/6/05 10:40 AM, peterklutz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > Were there any attempts by the TMO to merge/assimilate Scientology? > > Not that I know of. Nor did I ever hear MMY explain how he had gotten such a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO

2005-04-06 Thread peterklutz
Technique versus content.. Is it useful to compare a meditation technique and a person using it with a driver and a car? Yes, there are different kinds of cars, but what determines who wins the race is the sincerity and quality of the driver - not necessarily the features of the car. Maybe pe

[FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO

2005-04-06 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > So the thing is I am a seeker after the truth, Reality, as we all are. > What I have found is by meditation and discrimination, the false > becomes seperated from the non-false. After awhile the vibrations of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO

2005-04-06 Thread jim_flanegin
So the thing is I am a seeker after the truth, Reality, as we all are. What I have found is by meditation and discrimination, the false becomes seperated from the non-false. After awhile the vibrations of both become known. Naturally after going through this process one becomes sensitive to b

[FairfieldLife] Re: Geometries of Consciousness into Akasha

2005-04-06 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "rudra_joe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's in the nature of dna to spin off mrna spontaneously so one can't have that spin off without the closures. At least give me an 'M.' or NG.' I am the mantra master, you can't pass go without my approval. You'll

[FairfieldLife] Re: Geometries of Consciousness into Akasha

2005-04-06 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "rudra_joe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Hmm, I like this dna thing Rory. Very Interesting, yes, a new cult > could form from it. It's very neat. Is there no 'S' in your

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO

2005-04-06 Thread Rick Archer
on 4/6/05 10:40 AM, peterklutz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Were there any attempts by the TMO to merge/assimilate Scientology? Not that I know of. Nor did I ever hear MMY explain how he had gotten such a favorable impression of L. Ron Hubbard. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PRO

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO

2005-04-06 Thread Rick Archer
on 4/6/05 11:23 AM, Don at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Rick Archer wrote: > >> on 4/6/05 7:09 AM, peterklutz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>> >>> I've never done TTC, but, as you indicate - I would find it to be in >>> character with MMY to poke holes in other practices in a factual >>> manner,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Geometries of Consciousness into Akasha

2005-04-06 Thread rudra_joe
It's in the nature of dna to spin off mrna spontaneously so one can't have that spin off without the closures.  At least give me an 'M.' or NG.' I am the mantra master, you can't pass go without my approval. You'll find that 's' improves DNA/MRNA crossover, N and NG, and M all improve Pine

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO

2005-04-06 Thread Rick Archer
on 4/6/05 11:01 AM, jim_flanegin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:> > > Yes, that is my understanding. I want to be clear that I am not > trying to convince others about this. I heard somewhere that Guru > Dev could've done it Himself but it would've been too easy for Him; > not enough responsibility,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO

2005-04-06 Thread Don
Rick Archer wrote: > on 4/6/05 7:09 AM, peterklutz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > I've never done TTC, but, as you indicate - I would find it to be in > > character with MMY to poke holes in other practices in a factual > > manner, i.e. for valid reasons - just as I would expect Him to qua

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO

2005-04-06 Thread rudra_joe
RJ don't need no stinkin' nurses.--But those are the kind I prefer.To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/g

[FairfieldLife] Re: Does Quantum Soup Cause Paralysis?

2005-04-06 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "crukstrom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But if we did that, there would be no reason for this site to exist or > for these discussions. What makes you say that? I know I like talking to myself a lot :-) >We would all just 'know' and that would be it.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO

2005-04-06 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 4/6/05 10:30 AM, peterklutz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:> > > > > Relax, rudra_joe > > > > The nurses are on their way with your medication. > > RJ don't need no stinkin' nurses. On the other hand...shakti rocks

[FairfieldLife] Re: Does Quantum Soup Cause Paralysis?

2005-04-06 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > neti neti Exactly To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the w

[FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO

2005-04-06 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "rudra_joe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Cincinnati during the depression? ;-) > > -Peter > > As much as you ever were. ;-) > > > good one dude, good one. clap clap, me too. I used to think of getting out, but then I noticed that the peeling pai

[FairfieldLife] Re: Geometries of Consciousness into Akasha

2005-04-06 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "rudra_joe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hmm, I like this dna thing Rory. Very Interesting, yes, a new cult could form from it. It's very neat. Is there no 'S' in your mahamantra? Or 'N' ? Yes, let's start a new cult! You can be the boss. Just send half

[FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO

2005-04-06 Thread jim_flanegin
Yes, that is my understanding. I want to be clear that I am not trying to convince others about this. I heard somewhere that Guru Dev could've done it Himself but it would've been too easy for Him; not enough responsibility, so He found Maharishi (who He works with unceasingly from his throne

[FairfieldLife] Re: Minions

2005-04-06 Thread Rory Goff
Right on! You rock. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "rudra_joe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On the other hand, free of belief in the perfect positivity of the absolute and with the essential knowledge of the union of dark and light in the Dharmata, one is free to explore the union of d

[FairfieldLife] Re: Geometries of Consciousness into Akasha

2005-04-06 Thread jim_flanegin
Perfect! Thanks, Jim --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Additional comment below: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > She also lays out the 12 consciousness-forms in a straightforward > > r

[FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO

2005-04-06 Thread peterklutz
Were there any attempts by the TMO to merge/assimilate Scientology? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 4/6/05 7:09 AM, peterklutz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > I've never done TTC, but, as you indicate - I would find it to be in > > characte

[FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO

2005-04-06 Thread peterklutz
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 4/6/05 7:19 AM, peterklutz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Irmeli Mattsson" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> I don't remember, > > > > If you really want to, yo

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO

2005-04-06 Thread Rick Archer
on 4/6/05 10:30 AM, peterklutz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:> > > Relax, rudra_joe > > The nurses are on their way with your medication. RJ don't need no stinkin' nurses. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Jo

[FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO

2005-04-06 Thread peterklutz
Relax, rudra_joe The nurses are on their way with your medication. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "rudra_joe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Peterklutz: > > The TMO is a mirage; it does not exist; it's the battle field where > the forces of light find themselves involved in a struggle w

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO

2005-04-06 Thread rudra_joe
> Cincinnati during the depression? ;-)> -PeterAs much as you ever were. ;-)good one dude, good one. clap clap, me too. I used to think of getting out, but then I noticed that the peeling paint made good folk art.To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Paul Mason, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Guru Dev, TM & The TMO

2005-04-06 Thread rudra_joe
Clearest way I know of to recognize past (and future) lives is to understand they ARE in the Now. :-)-Yeah Boi!  In fact, supposedly by seeing the karmas as they are now one can see their genesis.  Certainly the karma of the Catholic Church is older than any of us and still effects us.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Does Quantum Soup Cause Paralysis?

2005-04-06 Thread crukstrom
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >(snip) > So there we have it, Akasha -- using the intellect to discover the > intellect. Discriminate not on who is right or who is wrong, but on > who is trying to figure out who is right and who is wrong. The ego

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Geometries of Consciousness into Akasha

2005-04-06 Thread rudra_joe
Hmm, I like this dna thing Rory. Very Interesting, yes, a new cult could form from it. It's very neat. Is there no 'S' in your mahamantra?  Or 'N' ? - Original Message - From: Rory Goff To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 9:39 AM

[FairfieldLife] Minions

2005-04-06 Thread rudra_joe
On the other hand, free of belief in the perfect positivity of the absolute and with the essential knowledge of the union of dark and light in the Dharmata, one is free to explore the union of dark and light and play of positive outsomes in the relative and what one sees is that the forces

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