[FairfieldLife] Re: Le Creme de la Creme

2013-06-18 Thread salyavin808


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote:

 salyavin, I like weird ideas too. Even better, something you said once, about 
 the truth being even more wondrous than fiction or scifi or something like 
 that. What's a good example? Well even just bird migration is pretty amazing. 
 Or how they fly in formation. So right, no need to know about faeries to find 
 the garden beautiful. But knowing how different flowers bloom at just the 
 right time to get just the right amount of sun and moisture they need--now 
 that is something that can make the garden look even more beautiful, IMHO (-:


Indeed. Animal migration is amazing. and the Monarch buttefly that flies from 
Mexico to somewhere in north America, but it takes so
long they stop and breed, then die and their offspring continue
the journey. Or the animals in Africa that have been doing the
same route for so long the follow a path that isn't straight
because the continenents have shifted, or is it that there have
been earthquakes or an ice age? Can't remember offhand

If you dig the world of nature I recommend a Richard Dawkins book
like The Ancestors Tale or The Greatest Show On Earth, or *any* of
his non-religious natural history books, he really is one of the
best communicators of this stuff ever and his books are always full
of astounding factoids about nature.

Actually his book Unweaving The Rainbow should be read by a lot of
people here because he reveals what's really amazing about crystals
etc, and how much superior reality is compared to the tedious new 
age myths that develop round things.

Would find a link to a review or two but my computer is overheating
and needs to be repaired before my fingernails melt!





[FairfieldLife] Robin M. Wood?

2013-06-18 Thread card

ROBINROBINROBINROBIN?


[FairfieldLife] Re: Repealing TM's Anti-Saint Policies

2013-06-18 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote:

 snip more Judyposturing 
 Plus which, from the very beginning of Robin's tenure
 on FFL, Barry has been eaten alive by jealousy because
 Robin has gotten so much more attention than Barry has.

Methinks the lady doth project too much. :-)

That's what SHE is here on FFL. And she's so limited 
in her thinking that she believes that's why others 
are here, too. 

We ARE talking, after all, about the person that the
Posting Limits were invented FOR. One of the reasons
she's so obsessed with me is that I was the one who
first brought up her tendency to write literally
*hundreds* of posts, flooding this forum with post
after post after post after post after post, week
after week after week, month after month after month,
trying desperately to be *the* focus of attention 
through sheer numbers and sheer volume of vitriol. 

Rick caught a clue from my comments (and those of 
many others, including many who had left the forum 
because of her) and took that obsessive-compulsive, 
attention-seeking, stuck-at-home-with-nothing-else-
to-do advantage away from her. He limited her to the 
same amount of posts that everyone else gets to make. 
She's been on an insane crusade to get Barry ever
since, even more than she was before. 

Being deprived of her primary -- and very possibly
*only* -- mechanism for getting attention was the 
biggest defeat she ever suffered, and Judy Stein 
doth not suffer defeat lightly. 

That's one way of looking at the situation. There
are others. Maybe she just argues compulsively 
and stalks her enemies because that's all she CAN 
do, and the attention-seeking is way of hiding her
inability to write anything creative or original. 
Who really knows.

All I know is that after all these years it's
still fun to dash off a post that I know in advance
will push her over the edge and inspire her to pour
out more vitriol than usual. Last night's short
mention of Robin worked like a charm in that regard. :-)





[FairfieldLife] Re: Repealing TM's Anti-Saint Policies

2013-06-18 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@... wrote:

 I'm just happy for you Judy.  This subject lets you 
 engage in all your favorite activities - bashing Barry, 
 bashing Xexo, bashing Share, bashing me, mind reading, 
 and most of all, defending (IYO) the ultimate
 hero, R.W. Carlsen.
 
 You've been waiting a couple weeks for this kind of 
 action.

You've seen her photo. It's the only kind of action
she's likely ever to get.  :-)





[FairfieldLife] Re: My Experience Practicing TM

2013-06-18 Thread nablusoss1008


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote:

 Thank you, I will try that.

Sometimes images from flickr or google images are not possible to copy for 
copyright reasons. One just has to try to see if it works. If you use a PC make 
sure you mark the image by right-click and drag the mouse, it should then 
become blue. Then ctrl + c to copy. Once you are in rich text editor here, 
press ctrl + v and voila, the image will appear. Good luck :-)


 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote:
  
   Ann, or anyone else, how do you paste in a graphic so that it is visible? 
   I have tried linking from an online site like flickr, but cannot control 
   the image size, once it appears in the message (often way too big).
  
  Ann may have better suggestions, but here's what I do.
  
  Before you start typing your reply, above the Reply window, click New! 
  Compose your message with Rich-Text Editor.
  
  You'll be put in a different-looking reply window.
  
  After you've typed your reply and copied the graphic into the Reply window, 
  look just underneath the window for a little box labeled View HTML 
  Source. Click in the box, and you'll see your typed reply followed by a 
  bunch of code. At the end of the code you should see something like 
  width=500 height=280. Those are the measurements of the graphic, I think 
  in pixels.
  
  Figure out approximately how much smaller you want the graphic to be, 
  percentage-wise. If you want it to be half the size, for example, delete 
  the numbers and type in new ones half as big (width=250 height=140 in my 
  example). Then uncheck the little box at the bottom, and you should go back 
  to the Reply window with the graphic half the size. (You want to preserve 
  the proportions of the graphic, so reduce each measurement by the same 
  percentage.)
  
  Various things can go wrong--sometimes those measurements don't appear, I 
  don't know why. Sometimes the graphic shows up just fine in the Reply 
  window but doesn't show up in the post. But the above works for me most of 
  the time.
 





[FairfieldLife] Judy Stein as prison groupie

2013-06-18 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 That's one way of looking at the situation. There
 are others. 

And here's one of them. I present it just *as* a theory, 
and as opinion. Unlike Judy, who tends to present *her* 
opinions and theories as if they were Absolute Fact, 
and the disputing of them a crime. :-)

It struck me this morning that what Judy reminds me
of with regard to her ongoing defense of Robin 
are those women who develop crushes on men confined
to prison for life. 

Such women exist. They develop a strange fascination
with a serial killer or some other lifer they've 
never met, and bombard them with letters, seeking to 
be their pen pals or lovers from afar or whatever 
they imagine themselves to *be* to these men. In some 
cases, these women have actually MARRIED the prisoners, 
even though they'll never spend a night together. 

My theory is that there's a bit of that in Judy Stein
and her obsession with Robin. He's SAFE to obsess on,
off there in the prison-of-his-own-making, having
cut *himself* off from further communication. So she
fawns and gushes over him from afar, trying to butter
him up and hoping beyond hope that someday he'll 
come back to FFL and appreciate her for becoming
what he was never able to achieve in real life -- a 
totally devoted cult follower. 

One wonders whether she imagines some odd *romance*
going on between her and Robin, one that has been
somehow frustrated by evil people like Curtis and
Steve and myself getting in the way of their True 
Love. 

Altogether fairly odd behavior for a woman he never
found interesting enough to have any long conversation
with while he was actually around. Real in-her-head
stalker fantasy stuff. 

It's just a theory. But run it through your internal
processors and see if it doesn't describe her behavior
pretty well. And if it doesn't explain it for you,
come up with your own theory. 

But I warn you...if your Theory Of Judy Stein And
Why She Does The Things She Does conflicts with her
fantasy view of who she is and why *she* thinks she
does what she does, you'll wind up on her Enemies
List. And she tends to obsess on her perceived 
enemies the same way she tends to obsess on those
she has fantasy romantic relationships with in 
her head.  :-)





[FairfieldLife] Politician's Wife Unhappy Over Alien Affair

2013-06-18 Thread PaliGap
Married father-of-three Simon Parkes, who represents
Stakesby on Whitby Town Council, said his wife had
rowed with him after revealing he had a child called
Zarka with an alien he refers to as the Cat Queen.

http://goo.gl/XzWXp

One reader's comment:

The Natural Law and Monster Raving Looney Parties
now seem so sensible







[FairfieldLife] Re: Somaadibhyo mahaa-lin.ga-kaaranam?

2013-06-18 Thread card

Corrected subject line:

somaadhibhir mahaa-lin.ga-karaNam?



Re: [FairfieldLife] Uttarkashi Flash Flooded

2013-06-18 Thread Michael Jackson
and you still think there is such a thing as the Marshy Effect?





 From: Buck dhamiltony...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 9:52 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Uttarkashi Flash Flooded
 


  
Have our Brothers on Purusha been heard of since?

Floods and landslides have killed at least 19 people and destroyed buildings 
after heavy rain in North India.

Fifteen people died in Uttarakhand state. Another four lost their lives in 
Himachal Pradesh, officials say.

Footage showed a three-storey apartment building being washed away in the town 
of Uttarkashi. Reports said at least three people died - more are missing.

Another 40 people are unaccounted for in Uttarakhand. Casualty figures are 
expected to rise.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-22936533


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] The Unified Field Prayer

2013-06-18 Thread Michael Jackson
yeah but TM ain't no religion...





 From: Buck dhamiltony...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 11:19 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] The Unified Field Prayer
 


  
The Unified Field,
hallowed be your name.
Your Kingdom come, 
your will be done, 
Heaven on earth.
Give us today our daily bread.
Forgive us our sins,
as we forgive those who sin against us. 
Lead us not into temptation, 
but deliver us from evil. 
For the kingdom, 
the power and the glory are yours. 
Now and for ever.
Om Shanti.


 

[FairfieldLife] HAWT, DAWG??

2013-06-18 Thread card

http://gokaleo.com/2013/03/06/cellulite-its-time-we-all-just-get-the-hell-over-it/

Uh...Scarlett Johansson does NOT look like hell. She looks freakin' HAWT. 
(hot??)...

WTF! Are some people really trying to ruin English spelling for good?!



[FairfieldLife] Re: Somaadibhyo mahaa-lin.ga-kaaranam?

2013-06-18 Thread card


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, card cardemaister@... wrote:

 
 Corrected subject line:
 
 somaadhibhir mahaa-lin.ga-karaNam?


Yikes! Should be 'somaadibhir'!  :o



[FairfieldLife] Re: The Unified Field Prayer

2013-06-18 Thread Buck


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote:

 yeah but TM ain't no religion...
 


Yes, that is true this is not iron-age religion.  Certainly one can be a 
scientist, modern and hold convictions based on the empiricism of experience; 
and hold scientific conviction worth fighting for, like the science of creative 
intelligence of our consciousness-based spiritual regeneration movement.  Like 
talking the secular science of Nature here based on spiritual experience, not 
religious cult.  There is certainly a place for practicing meditation that 
needs not be religion or faith-based like some TM'er extremists may do.  TM'ers 
are not all bad that way like just a few big shots in the whole group giving 
the group a bad name.   Judge not the whole barrel by a few bad apples thus.
Have a nice meditation, 
-Buck in the Dome

 
 
 
 
  From: Buck 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 11:19 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] The Unified Field Prayer
  
 
 
   
 The Unified Field,
 hallowed be your name.
 Your Kingdom come, 
 your will be done, 
 Heaven on earth.
 Give us today our daily bread.
 Forgive us our sins,
 as we forgive those who sin against us. 
 Lead us not into temptation, 
 but deliver us from evil. 
 For the kingdom, 
 the power and the glory are yours. 
 Now and for ever.
 Om Shanti.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Repealing TM's Anti-Saint Policies

2013-06-18 Thread Susan
What are the Dome numbers lately?  What is the goal in terms of numbers?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:

 
 
 The TM communal antagonisms evidently run deep as insurmountably low ME 
 numbers unless the Prime Minister comes around himself and repeals the TM 
 anti-saint policy for everybody.  That day would be emancipation day for the 
 Meissner Effect of consciousness in Fairfield and everywhere.
  
  
   
   
Dr. that is true but that just does not exactly match reality here.  
Doc., from a distance you would think so.  But you don't live here.  
However, there is a much larger meditating community here that has long 
been spurned and disenfranchised from the Domes by a very few 
extremists in the middle who have their own faith-based ideology that 
has held the group meditation of the community hostage.  
   
  
  Look, this is about getting a large group meditation and and proper [ME] 
  Meissner Effect.  Our larger communal resistance to getting a proper ME 
  seemingly is impossible now to overcome here without a substantial change; 
  it's insurmountable, these are insuperable odds with the long antagonisms 
  this TM administration has led with the meditating community using the TM 
  anti-saint guideline to judge, whip and hang people with.
 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen drpsutphen@ wrote:

 Well, if you really want to resolve this you simply build your own 
 dome or flying hall. A master never releases his slave. The slave 
 decides to no longer be a slave. To think that the TMO is ever going 
 to change its position is a waste of time. Those people are simply 
 lost in their own minds. If they ever experienced the fruit of 
 TM/TMSP they would be free. But they very clearly don't , so they 
 continue to rule in their fiefdom of thought.


   
   The fact is that the larger community built the Domes to meditate in.  
   The community should not have to build another set of Domes because a few 
   people have locked the community out.  That [build another] thinking is 
   wrong and in fact they need to change their thinking for there to be a 
   proper ME again in the Domes.  If they cannot return a proper ME now, 
   right now,  then it is time for regime change if they can not rescind the 
   TM Anti-saint policies that use the Domes in extortion.  Something has to 
   change for the benefit of a proper ME .
   -Buck   
   
   
 In order to reach a just solution to the anti-saint policies of TM 
 and the Dome meditation ME that is accepted by all parties, goodwill 
 can play the role of mediator between the TM.government and its 
 meditator community in opposition that is working hard to achieve a 
 democracy and good governance.   I do hope for the best ME we can 
 facilitate. 
 -Buck 
 
 
  
  The gravest threat to the Maharishi Effect here and its protection 
  of America in its support of Natural Law is our tyrannic TM 
  anti-saint policy over meditators in the Domes.  It is time to 
  repeal the anti-saint policy for all our safety. 
  
  
   Yep, using the Dome badge as punishment in fealty test over 
   people while hoping to git a large and proper Meissner Effect out 
   of the Domes is insurmountably impossible without a change in the 
   leadership and/or the TM-anti-saint guidelines.  A large change 
   is needed right now from within TM.   
   -Buck
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck  wrote:
   


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@ 
wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote:
 
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson 
  mjackson74@ wrote:
  
   As the Global Country of World Peace exists only in the 
   minds of those too blind to see Marshy's legacy for what 
   it was, a scam, you are in danger of losing nothing and 
   the extremism you speak of has existed for decades - it 
   ain't gonna change now, Pappy.
   
  
  
  It seems that extremists on both sides are determined to 
  maintain the state of hostility and hatred between the two 
  positions, but logic says that there should be a change of 
  direction in order to turn a new page in this unstable 
  relationship and minimize the state of hostility and 
  mistrust between the two positions. 
 
 From what I recall, there were 4 reasons MMY forbid looking 
 elsewhere:  First, to protect people from getting sidetracked 
 from the TM path and onto a flashier but less evolutionary 
 method. The assumption here was that TMers were in many cases 
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Le Creme de la Creme

2013-06-18 Thread Share Long
salyavin, thank you so much for book recs. Just that title, Unweaving the 
Rainbow, makes me put it on my amazon to buy list. Even though the pink crystal 
hanging on the lamp on my desk seems forlorn at the thought (-:


As for your finger nails melting, yep, you've been very busy this week, 
shooting them UFOs out of the sky etc. In another post I liked what you said 
about scientists actually being thrilled if something like levitation happens 
because then they get to explore
 a new and intriguing area of knowledge.
I also really liked the Feynman quote about focusing on what's really happening 
rather than on what might possibly happen. 

You ask, where is stress in collective consciousness held. I'd say in the 
quantum field. Then as it builds up, it spills over into matter. Similarly, 
negative thoughts or emotions in our personal field can build up and spill over 
into our body. We simply don't have the instruments to measure such. Well, 
except animals seems to know when an earthquake is about to occur. I wonder how 
animal science explains that!




 From: salyavin808 fintlewoodle...@mail.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 1:02 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Le Creme de la Creme
 


  


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote:

 salyavin, I like weird ideas too. Even better, something you said once, about 
 the truth being even more wondrous than fiction or scifi or something like 
 that. What's a good example? Well even just bird migration is pretty amazing. 
 Or how they fly in formation. So right, no need to know about faeries to find 
 the garden beautiful. But knowing how different flowers bloom at just the 
 right time to get just the right amount of sun and moisture they need--now 
 that is something that can make the garden look even more beautiful, IMHO (-:

Indeed. Animal migration is amazing. and the Monarch buttefly that flies from 
Mexico to somewhere in north America, but it takes so
long they stop and breed, then die and their offspring continue
the journey. Or the animals in Africa that have been doing the
same route for so long the follow a path that isn't straight
because the continenents have shifted, or is it that there have
been earthquakes or an ice age? Can't remember offhand

If you dig the world of nature I recommend a Richard Dawkins book
like The Ancestors Tale or The Greatest Show On Earth, or *any* of
his non-religious natural history books, he really is one of the
best communicators of this stuff ever and his books are always full
of astounding factoids about nature.

Actually his book Unweaving The Rainbow should be read by a lot of
people here because he reveals what's really amazing about crystals
etc, and how much superior reality is compared to the tedious new 
age myths that develop round things.

Would find a link to a review or two but my computer is overheating
and needs to be repaired before my fingernails melt!


 

[FairfieldLife] Booger from Space

2013-06-18 Thread Michael Jackson
The idea of benign or hostile space aliens from other planets visiting 
the earth [is clearly] an emotional idea. There are two sorts of 
self-deception here: either accepting the idea of extraterrestrial 
visitation by space aliens in the face of very meager evidence because 
we want it to be true; or rejecting such an idea out of hand, in the 
absence of sufficient evidence, because we don't want it to be true. 
Each of these extremes is a serious impediment to the study of UFOs.


 - Carl Sagan

[FairfieldLife] Re: Booger from Space

2013-06-18 Thread obbajeeba
Thank god for reading glasses!  
Thought the subject title was Boner from Space.
It kind of fits too, if you really think about it.
A guy can claim to know all the hidden mysteries and 
capture a woman's curiosity, thereby planting a 
seed when he uses big words like extraterrestrial. It
is a long word. 
He grabs the arm of the woman and says, Oh look! What do I see honey?!!  
http://www.foxnews.com/science/2013/06/12/spooky-photo-shows-ufo-above-medieval-castle/
Boners from Space is not far fetched. 
 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote:

 The idea of benign or hostile space aliens from other planets visiting 
 the earth [is clearly] an emotional idea. There are two sorts of 
 self-deception here: either accepting the idea of extraterrestrial 
 visitation by space aliens in the face of very meager evidence because 
 we want it to be true; or rejecting such an idea out of hand, in the 
 absence of sufficient evidence, because we don't want it to be true. 
 Each of these extremes is a serious impediment to the study of UFOs.
 
   
    - Carl Sagan





Re: [FairfieldLife] HAWT, DAWG??

2013-06-18 Thread Mike Dixon
I've been accused of that! LOL


From: card cardemais...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 4:42 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] HAWT, DAWG??

  

http://gokaleo.com/2013/03/06/cellulite-its-time-we-all-just-get-the-hell-over-it/

Uh...Scarlett Johansson does NOT look like hell. She looks freakin' HAWT. 
(hot??)...

WTF! Are some people really trying to ruin English spelling for good?!




[FairfieldLife] Re: Boner from Space

2013-06-18 Thread obbajeeba
Here, Nabby. Captured human shares recreation of an identified object from 
space. Proving aliens from other worlds have been around since the days of 
Jesus.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSY4fEEg4j0

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@... wrote:

 Thank god for reading glasses!  
 Thought the subject title was Boner from Space.
 It kind of fits too, if you really think about it.
 A guy can claim to know all the hidden mysteries and 
 capture a woman's curiosity, thereby planting a 
 seed when he uses big words like extraterrestrial. It
 is a long word. 
 He grabs the arm of the woman and says, Oh look! What do I see honey?!!  
 http://www.foxnews.com/science/2013/06/12/spooky-photo-shows-ufo-above-medieval-castle/
 Boners from Space is not far fetched. 
  
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote:
 
  The idea of benign or hostile space aliens from other planets visiting 
  the earth [is clearly] an emotional idea. There are two sorts of 
  self-deception here: either accepting the idea of extraterrestrial 
  visitation by space aliens in the face of very meager evidence because 
  we want it to be true; or rejecting such an idea out of hand, in the 
  absence of sufficient evidence, because we don't want it to be true. 
  Each of these extremes is a serious impediment to the study of UFOs.
  
  
   - Carl Sagan
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: My Experience Practicing TM

2013-06-18 Thread doctordumbass
Ha-ha!! Though it is hardly news worth sharing, since I have had the apparatus, 
and followed the procedure, thousands of times at this point.:-)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@... wrote:

 I have to PeePee, so I'll keep tinkling. 
 That is what I thought you wrote before putting on my glasses!  lol 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote:
 
  Thanks, I have a PeeCee, so I'll keep tinkering. 
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote:
  
   
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote:
   
Ann, or anyone else, how do you paste in a graphic so that it is 
visible? I have tried linking from an online site like flickr, but 
cannot control the image size, once it appears in the message (often 
way too big).
   
   Jesus, I am the last one to ask for technical assistance but since I use 
   a Mac it is easy. You just have to be sure to grab an image off the 
   internet directly. I simply use rich-text editor and drag the damn thing 
   into the post I am making. It is different if you are using a PC. Someone 
   here can explain that one better and I might have made an error in what I 
   said about a Mac, but it works for me, so far.
   
  
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Judy Stein as prison groupie

2013-06-18 Thread doctordumbass
You sound jealous and bitter, Barry, at having lost Judy, to Robin, in your 
head. Its OK, she will continue to pay attention to you, virtually forever. 

Yes, it is true, you and Judy were an item, and ROBIN was *the other man*, but 
now the roles are reversed, and you are left on the outside, looking in. Story 
of your life, huh? 

Take heart, Barry, Judy will be back soon enough, to tend to you, personally. 
Mark my words, you will again be, The Center Of Attention.:-)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
 
  That's one way of looking at the situation. There
  are others. 
 
 And here's one of them. I present it just *as* a theory, 
 and as opinion. Unlike Judy, who tends to present *her* 
 opinions and theories as if they were Absolute Fact, 
 and the disputing of them a crime. :-)
 
 It struck me this morning that what Judy reminds me
 of with regard to her ongoing defense of Robin 
 are those women who develop crushes on men confined
 to prison for life. 
 
 Such women exist. They develop a strange fascination
 with a serial killer or some other lifer they've 
 never met, and bombard them with letters, seeking to 
 be their pen pals or lovers from afar or whatever 
 they imagine themselves to *be* to these men. In some 
 cases, these women have actually MARRIED the prisoners, 
 even though they'll never spend a night together. 
 
 My theory is that there's a bit of that in Judy Stein
 and her obsession with Robin. He's SAFE to obsess on,
 off there in the prison-of-his-own-making, having
 cut *himself* off from further communication. So she
 fawns and gushes over him from afar, trying to butter
 him up and hoping beyond hope that someday he'll 
 come back to FFL and appreciate her for becoming
 what he was never able to achieve in real life -- a 
 totally devoted cult follower. 
 
 One wonders whether she imagines some odd *romance*
 going on between her and Robin, one that has been
 somehow frustrated by evil people like Curtis and
 Steve and myself getting in the way of their True 
 Love. 
 
 Altogether fairly odd behavior for a woman he never
 found interesting enough to have any long conversation
 with while he was actually around. Real in-her-head
 stalker fantasy stuff. 
 
 It's just a theory. But run it through your internal
 processors and see if it doesn't describe her behavior
 pretty well. And if it doesn't explain it for you,
 come up with your own theory. 
 
 But I warn you...if your Theory Of Judy Stein And
 Why She Does The Things She Does conflicts with her
 fantasy view of who she is and why *she* thinks she
 does what she does, you'll wind up on her Enemies
 List. And she tends to obsess on her perceived 
 enemies the same way she tends to obsess on those
 she has fantasy romantic relationships with in 
 her head.  :-)





[FairfieldLife] Re: Judy Stein as prison groupie

2013-06-18 Thread Richard J. Williams


 a strange fascination with a serial killer

So, it's all about Judy. What you've posted here
is close to libel, if not an outright smear. You
can do a lot better than this - you're supposed to
be a writer, telling the truth, Barry. It looks
like you've gone off the deep end this time.

Rule 8: Respect other people's privacy.

http://www.albion.com/netiquette/rule8.html 

So, let's review the rules:

1. Don't use a respondent's name as the subject.
2. Don't post anyone's private email.
3. Don't reveal an anonymous poster's real name.

turquoise:
  That's one way of looking at the situation. There
  are others. 
 
 And here's one of them. I present it just *as* a theory, 
 and as opinion. Unlike Judy, who tends to present *her* 
 opinions and theories as if they were Absolute Fact, 
 and the disputing of them a crime. :-)
 
 It struck me this morning that what Judy reminds me
 of with regard to her ongoing defense of Robin 
 are those women who develop crushes on men confined
 to prison for life. 
 
 Such women exist. They develop a strange fascination
 with a serial killer or some other lifer they've 
 never met, and bombard them with letters, seeking to 
 be their pen pals or lovers from afar or whatever 
 they imagine themselves to *be* to these men. In some 
 cases, these women have actually MARRIED the prisoners, 
 even though they'll never spend a night together. 
 
 My theory is that there's a bit of that in Judy Stein
 and her obsession with Robin. He's SAFE to obsess on,
 off there in the prison-of-his-own-making, having
 cut *himself* off from further communication. So she
 fawns and gushes over him from afar, trying to butter
 him up and hoping beyond hope that someday he'll 
 come back to FFL and appreciate her for becoming
 what he was never able to achieve in real life -- a 
 totally devoted cult follower. 
 
 One wonders whether she imagines some odd *romance*
 going on between her and Robin, one that has been
 somehow frustrated by evil people like Curtis and
 Steve and myself getting in the way of their True 
 Love. 
 
 Altogether fairly odd behavior for a woman he never
 found interesting enough to have any long conversation
 with while he was actually around. Real in-her-head
 stalker fantasy stuff. 
 
 It's just a theory. But run it through your internal
 processors and see if it doesn't describe her behavior
 pretty well. And if it doesn't explain it for you,
 come up with your own theory. 
 
 But I warn you...if your Theory Of Judy Stein And
 Why She Does The Things She Does conflicts with her
 fantasy view of who she is and why *she* thinks she
 does what she does, you'll wind up on her Enemies
 List. And she tends to obsess on her perceived 
 enemies the same way she tends to obsess on those
 she has fantasy romantic relationships with in 
 her head.  :-)





[FairfieldLife] Re: Repealing TM's Anti-Saint Policies

2013-06-18 Thread Ann


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote:
 
  snip more Judyposturing 
  Plus which, from the very beginning of Robin's tenure
  on FFL, Barry has been eaten alive by jealousy because
  Robin has gotten so much more attention than Barry has.
 
 Methinks the lady doth project too much. :-)
 
 That's what SHE is here on FFL. And she's so limited 
 in her thinking that she believes that's why others 
 are here, too. 

This reminds me of second grade when one's most witty comeback to some verbal 
slight would be, I know you are but what am I? over and over again.
 
 We ARE talking, after all, about the person that the
 Posting Limits were invented FOR. One of the reasons
 she's so obsessed with me is that I was the one who
 first brought up her tendency to write literally
 *hundreds* of posts, flooding this forum with post
 after post after post after post after post, week
 after week after week, month after month after month,
 trying desperately to be *the* focus of attention 
 through sheer numbers and sheer volume of vitriol. 

I don't know Barry, when anyone posts old links to 'historical conversations' 
between you and others, not only here but on other forums, there appears to be 
a wake of vitriol, hurled insults, plenty of libel related to purported 
demented psychological conditions of not only yourself but those you comment 
about. The flotsam and jetsam of unpleasantries litter the ether like the 
garbage spewn into space by so many space missions and dead satellites. You can 
certainly hold your head high when it comes to owning up to your share of 
internet detritus.
 
 Rick caught a clue from my comments (and those of 
 many others, including many who had left the forum 
 because of her) and took that obsessive-compulsive, 
 attention-seeking, stuck-at-home-with-nothing-else-
 to-do advantage away from her. He limited her to the 
 same amount of posts that everyone else gets to make. 
 She's been on an insane crusade to get Barry ever
 since, even more than she was before. 

Yes, yes, Barry, it has been and always will be about you - don't worry.
 
 Being deprived of her primary -- and very possibly
 *only* -- mechanism for getting attention was the 
 biggest defeat she ever suffered, and Judy Stein 
 doth not suffer defeat lightly. 

I know you see typing on the internet as a do or die, win or lose proposition 
but for many others it is an entertaining (and at best a stimulating) 
opportunity to explore ideas and learn more about the human race. It is hardly 
a place akin to some great battlefield where lives are surrendered to some deep 
spiritual ideal or where one has the potential to emerge victorious or end up 
receiving a Green Beret (although, given where you live, a beret, green or 
otherwise,  might make you appear jaunty and oh so French).
 
 That's one way of looking at the situation. There
 are others. Maybe she just argues compulsively 
 and stalks her enemies because that's all she CAN 
 do, and the attention-seeking is way of hiding her
 inability to write anything creative or original. 
 Who really knows.

Who knows and who cares other than you? But as you seem to have made this your 
life's mission to think endlessly and write for years and years about this you 
go boy. Just let me know when you have come up with the definitive answer. 
 
 All I know is that after all these years it's
 still fun to dash off a post that I know in advance
 will push her over the edge and inspire her to pour
 out more vitriol than usual. Last night's short
 mention of Robin worked like a charm in that regard. :-)

Well then, you are both, evidently, happy. You have been rewarded, you are 
content, she responded exactly how you wanted her to (although I don't see it) 
and it gave you another opportunity to repeat yourself for the umpteenth time. 
What I don't get is why you complain about her - she appears to be your reason 
for living.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Uttarkashi Flash Flooded

2013-06-18 Thread Richard J. Williams


mjackson74:
 and you still think there is such a thing as the Marshy 
 Effect?
 
You remind me of Gordon Ramsey, the cook. Only a boor like 
that would hijack a discussion to make fun of a flooding 
over in India that killed a lot of poor people. 

You suck as an informant!

  Have our Brothers on Purusha been heard of since?
 
  Floods and landslides have killed at least 19 people 
  and destroyed buildings after heavy rain in North 
  India.
 
 Fifteen people died in Uttarakhand state. Another four 
  lost their lives in Himachal Pradesh, officials say.
 
 Footage showed a three-storey apartment building being 
 washed away in the town of Uttarkashi. Reports said at 
 least three people died - more are missing.
 
 Another 40 people are unaccounted for in Uttarakhand. 
 Casualty figures are expected to rise.
 
 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-22936533





[FairfieldLife] Re: Judy Stein as prison groupie

2013-06-18 Thread Ann

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
 
  That's one way of looking at the situation. There
  are others.

 And here's one of them. I present it just *as* a theory,
 and as opinion. Unlike Judy, who tends to present *her*
 opinions and theories as if they were Absolute Fact,
 and the disputing of them a crime. :-)

 It struck me this morning that what Judy reminds me
 of with regard to her ongoing defense of Robin
 are those women who develop crushes on men confined
 to prison for life.

 Such women exist. They develop a strange fascination
 with a serial killer or some other lifer they've
 never met, and bombard them with letters, seeking to
 be their pen pals or lovers from afar or whatever
 they imagine themselves to *be* to these men. In some
 cases, these women have actually MARRIED the prisoners,
 even though they'll never spend a night together.

 My theory is that there's a bit of that in Judy Stein
 and her obsession with Robin. He's SAFE to obsess on,
 off there in the prison-of-his-own-making, having
 cut *himself* off from further communication. So she
 fawns and gushes over him from afar, trying to butter
 him up and hoping beyond hope that someday he'll
 come back to FFL and appreciate her for becoming
 what he was never able to achieve in real life -- a
 totally devoted cult follower.

 One wonders whether she imagines some odd *romance*
 going on between her and Robin, one that has been
 somehow frustrated by evil people like Curtis and
 Steve and myself getting in the way of their True
 Love.

 Altogether fairly odd behavior for a woman he never
 found interesting enough to have any long conversation
 with while he was actually around. Real in-her-head
 stalker fantasy stuff.

 It's just a theory. But run it through your internal
 processors and see if it doesn't describe her behavior
 pretty well. And if it doesn't explain it for you,
 come up with your own theory.

 But I warn you...if your Theory Of Judy Stein And
 Why She Does The Things She Does conflicts with her
 fantasy view of who she is and why *she* thinks she
 does what she does, you'll wind up on her Enemies
 List. And she tends to obsess on her perceived
 enemies the same way she tends to obsess on those
 she has fantasy romantic relationships with in
 her head.  :-) Just in case you were hoping for some minion-type
response in rebuttal for your obvious button pushing routine I have
included a wonderful recipe below. Try it, you won't be
disappointed.Sachertorte
Epicurious  | November 2004

by Rick Rodgers

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Repealing TM's Anti-Saint Policies

2013-06-18 Thread Richard J. Williams


  you spend a lot more time on TM, than most of us 
  do, who actually practice it! 
  
nablusoss: 
 How can a person who left something, anything, more 
 than 40 (!) years ago keep obsessing and still claim 
 to be sane ?

It's has a lot to do with being lonely. There's nothing
quite so lonely as an expat, especially for someone
experiencing a lot of cognitive dissonance. LoL!

There you are, sitting there, looking like a nerd or a 
geek, with your black T-shirt on and your Toshiba open
on your lap, and nobody talks to you because you don't 
even understand their language, much less to follow 
your thought patterns on a spiritual path. 

So, some people just feel better when they have someone 
to talk to. It's that simple.

Just think, you're making Barry and MJ feel better just 
by responding to them. But, why do most of MJ's posts
begin and end on one single line and all begin with RE:

Go figure. 






Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Uttarkashi Flash Flooded

2013-06-18 Thread Michael Jackson
it is legit when the TMO and its adherents claim that group TMSP prevents such 
disasters, and with a large Purusha group within walking distance - come on! 
Same as all the crap that is going on in Latin America when idjits claim Raja 
Luis is working wonders with the 8,000 TMSP practitioners - I stopped posting 
the Latin America stuff cause its become redundant.

Can't have it both ways - if you believe group flying does a damn thing in the 
world's atmosphere you can't whine and complain when people point out it 
doesn't work.





 From: Richard J. Williams rich...@rwilliams.us
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 9:49 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Uttarkashi Flash Flooded
 


  


mjackson74:
 and you still think there is such a thing as the Marshy 
 Effect?
 
You remind me of Gordon Ramsey, the cook. Only a boor like 
that would hijack a discussion to make fun of a flooding 
over in India that killed a lot of poor people. 

You suck as an informant!

  Have our Brothers on Purusha been heard of since?
 
  Floods and landslides have killed at least 19 people 
  and destroyed buildings after heavy rain in North 
  India.
 
 Fifteen people died in Uttarakhand state. Another four 
  lost their lives in Himachal Pradesh, officials say.
 
 Footage showed a three-storey apartment building being 
 washed away in the town of Uttarkashi. Reports said at 
 least three people died - more are missing.
 
 Another 40 people are unaccounted for in Uttarakhand. 
 Casualty figures are expected to rise.
 
 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-22936533



 

[FairfieldLife] The Ideal Cell Phone

2013-06-18 Thread Richard J. Williams
This is the ideal phone for geezers:


  http://seniorcitizenhumor.blogspot.com/



[FairfieldLife] Getting the Metadata

2013-06-18 Thread Richard J. Williams
That metadata includes which version of the 
operating system, browser and Java software 
are being used on millions of devices around 
the world

Bloomberg:
http://tinyurl.com/mvaew4f



[FairfieldLife] Re: Repealing TM's Anti-Saint Policies

2013-06-18 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote:
 
  snip more Judyposturing

Translation: I'm going to snip the bitch's humiliating
demolition of all the crap I made up about Robin that I
was so proud of and make up an even bigger load of crap
about *her*. That'll show everybody I don't give a shit
that she makes me look like a fool, right? Right??

 
  Plus which, from the very beginning of Robin's tenure
  on FFL, Barry has been eaten alive by jealousy because
  Robin has gotten so much more attention than Barry has.
 
 Methinks the lady doth project too much. :-)
 
 That's what SHE is here on FFL. And she's so limited 
 in her thinking that she believes that's why others 
 are here, too. 
 
 We ARE talking, after all, about the person that the
 Posting Limits were invented FOR. One of the reasons
 she's so obsessed with me is that I was the one who
 first brought up her tendency to write literally
 *hundreds* of posts, flooding this forum with post
 after post after post after post after post, week
 after week after week, month after month after month,
 trying desperately to be *the* focus of attention 
 through sheer numbers and sheer volume of vitriol. 
 
 Rick caught a clue from my comments (and those of 
 many others, including many who had left the forum 
 because of her) and took that obsessive-compulsive, 
 attention-seeking, stuck-at-home-with-nothing-else-
 to-do advantage away from her. He limited her to the 
 same amount of posts that everyone else gets to make. 
 She's been on an insane crusade to get Barry ever
 since, even more than she was before. 
 
 Being deprived of her primary -- and very possibly
 *only* -- mechanism for getting attention was the 
 biggest defeat she ever suffered, and Judy Stein 
 doth not suffer defeat lightly. 
 
 That's one way of looking at the situation. There
 are others. Maybe she just argues compulsively 
 and stalks her enemies because that's all she CAN 
 do, and the attention-seeking is way of hiding her
 inability to write anything creative or original. 
 Who really knows.
 
 All I know is that after all these years it's
 still fun to dash off a post that I know in advance
 will push her over the edge and inspire her to pour
 out more vitriol than usual. Last night's short
 mention of Robin worked like a charm in that regard. :-)





[FairfieldLife] Just what Barry does (was: Re: Judy Stein as prison groupie)

2013-06-18 Thread authfriend
Barry is going to be wildly out of control for a
while after having been caught spectacularly fucking
up in his recent post about Robin. Nothing enrages
him more than to think he really got one of the
people he loathes, and then to watch his imagined
triumph turn to shit in front of God and everybody.

It'll be fun to watch him rave and hallucinate, so
make sure you've got plenty of popcorn on hand. ;-)



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
 
  That's one way of looking at the situation. There
  are others. 
 
 And here's one of them. I present it just *as* a theory, 
 and as opinion. Unlike Judy, who tends to present *her* 
 opinions and theories as if they were Absolute Fact, 
 and the disputing of them a crime. :-)
 
 It struck me this morning that what Judy reminds me
 of with regard to her ongoing defense of Robin 
 are those women who develop crushes on men confined
 to prison for life. 
 
 Such women exist. They develop a strange fascination
 with a serial killer or some other lifer they've 
 never met, and bombard them with letters, seeking to 
 be their pen pals or lovers from afar or whatever 
 they imagine themselves to *be* to these men. In some 
 cases, these women have actually MARRIED the prisoners, 
 even though they'll never spend a night together. 
 
 My theory is that there's a bit of that in Judy Stein
 and her obsession with Robin. He's SAFE to obsess on,
 off there in the prison-of-his-own-making, having
 cut *himself* off from further communication. So she
 fawns and gushes over him from afar, trying to butter
 him up and hoping beyond hope that someday he'll 
 come back to FFL and appreciate her for becoming
 what he was never able to achieve in real life -- a 
 totally devoted cult follower. 
 
 One wonders whether she imagines some odd *romance*
 going on between her and Robin, one that has been
 somehow frustrated by evil people like Curtis and
 Steve and myself getting in the way of their True 
 Love. 
 
 Altogether fairly odd behavior for a woman he never
 found interesting enough to have any long conversation
 with while he was actually around. Real in-her-head
 stalker fantasy stuff. 
 
 It's just a theory. But run it through your internal
 processors and see if it doesn't describe her behavior
 pretty well. And if it doesn't explain it for you,
 come up with your own theory. 
 
 But I warn you...if your Theory Of Judy Stein And
 Why She Does The Things She Does conflicts with her
 fantasy view of who she is and why *she* thinks she
 does what she does, you'll wind up on her Enemies
 List. And she tends to obsess on her perceived 
 enemies the same way she tends to obsess on those
 she has fantasy romantic relationships with in 
 her head.  :-)





[FairfieldLife] Funny Scottish accent!

2013-06-18 Thread card

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2S-a0v8rLM



Re: [FairfieldLife] Funny Scottish accent!

2013-06-18 Thread Share Long
hey, folks, it's much more than a funny Scottish accent. It's a wonderful BBC 
series called How to Grow a Planet. And it features Pangea!





 From: card cardemais...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 10:13 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Funny Scottish accent!
 


  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2S-a0v8rLM


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Booger from Space

2013-06-18 Thread Ann


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@... wrote:

 Thank god for reading glasses!  
 Thought the subject title was Boner from Space.
 It kind of fits too, if you really think about it.
 A guy can claim to know all the hidden mysteries and 
 capture a woman's curiosity, thereby planting a 
 seed when he uses big words like extraterrestrial. It
 is a long word. 
 He grabs the arm of the woman and says, Oh look! What do I see honey?!!  
 http://www.foxnews.com/science/2013/06/12/spooky-photo-shows-ufo-above-medieval-castle/
 Boners from Space is not far fetched. 

Obba, you have been talking an awful lot about sex and boners and elephants 
with boners and mother fuckers lately. This can only mean one of two things; 
you're either getting a lot of it right now or you're not getting any. But my 
favourite so far has been the I have to Gopi statement the other day.
  
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote:
 
  The idea of benign or hostile space aliens from other planets visiting 
  the earth [is clearly] an emotional idea. There are two sorts of 
  self-deception here: either accepting the idea of extraterrestrial 
  visitation by space aliens in the face of very meager evidence because 
  we want it to be true; or rejecting such an idea out of hand, in the 
  absence of sufficient evidence, because we don't want it to be true. 
  Each of these extremes is a serious impediment to the study of UFOs.
  
  
   - Carl Sagan
 





Re: [FairfieldLife] Getting the Metadata

2013-06-18 Thread Share Long
Old news, Richard and being the pragmatist I am, I have but one question: what 
is to be done about it.





 From: Richard J. Williams rich...@rwilliams.us
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 9:56 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Getting the Metadata
 


  
That metadata includes which version of the 
operating system, browser and Java software 
are being used on millions of devices around 
the world

Bloomberg:
http://tinyurl.com/mvaew4f


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Proof of Heaven - for Emily

2013-06-18 Thread Carol
Here is a website link to the non-profit that Dr. Alexander help found:
http://www.eternea.org/index.aspx

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@... wrote:

 Hey Emily, I have finished the book and I enjoyed it. I would characterize 
 'Proof of Heaven' as a big book within a little book. On one level it is a 
 little book, it is merely one man's experience of a place, a reality that he 
 believes was true. What he reveals about his experience is lovely in the 
 extreme; it is very personal and I would love most aspects of what he saw and 
 perceived to be true. The big part of the book for me is that it has 
 permanently instilled in me a vision and a hope for what could be waiting for 
 me after death.
 
 I believe Eben to be a courageous man who, in the male-dominated medical 
 profession, has put himself forward for what he knows to be probable ridicule 
 in his peers' eyes. It is very evident from his writing that his NDE is the 
 one most substantial event in his life and because of what it has done for 
 him personally, on all levels, he feels it vital to communicate his 
 'findings' while in his coma to the world. That is how positive and life 
 altering his coma experience was, let alone the very near to dying he came 
 with a very rare disease for someone his age. 
 
 Then there is, of course, the 'miracle' of complete recovery from virtual 
 brain death as more proof to him that he was 'chosen' to have this NDE and 
 recovery in order to spread a message of hope and happiness for people. Plus, 
 being a learned man in the area of the brain and its functioning, its 
 physical makeup and how disease or health manifests as well as knowledge 
 gained through years practicing and studying within in his profession, his 
 opinions and scientific evidence give more clout to dispel the notion his NDE 
 was merely a vision or brain-originating hallucination. He gives strong 
 evidence for why it could not be that but was the EXPERIENCE OF PURE 
 CONSCIOUSNESS unsullied by brain function or memory or projection.
 
 I also found that in his description of the various 'strata' of those worlds 
 he visited after falling into his deep coma  that they resonated with some 
 part of me. The worm's eye view was something I felt I had some knowledge of 
 as well as the infinite bliss and love of the deeper places, the places even 
 closer to God. I felt in his descriptions a tickling of some deeper memory 
 for me of some truth there so I take his NDE very seriously.
 
 Thanks for recommending the book, it was a worthwhile read and maybe as close 
 as we can come to a scientifically backed up explanation for what might 
 possibly exist, for some or for all, after dropping the body. No matter what, 
 it is a lovely idea or vision to hold in one's awareness while we still 
 clamber about this planet in the body we currently possess.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Uttarkashi Flash Flooded

2013-06-18 Thread Richard J. Williams
Using your kind of logic the disaster could have been
worse without the Purusha boys. Listen to yourself:
Poor people have to get killed so you can prove your
point. Where did you learn logic ~ from the same guys
that taught you human global warming? Go figure.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote:

 it is legit when the TMO and its adherents claim that group TMSP prevents 
 such disasters, and with a large Purusha group within walking distance - come 
 on! Same as all the crap that is going on in Latin America when idjits claim 
 Raja Luis is working wonders with the 8,000 TMSP practitioners - I stopped 
 posting the Latin America stuff cause its become redundant.
 
 Can't have it both ways - if you believe group flying does a damn thing in 
 the world's atmosphere you can't whine and complain when people point out it 
 doesn't work.
 
 
 
 
 
  From: Richard J. Williams richard@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 9:49 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Uttarkashi Flash Flooded
  
 
 
   
 
 
 mjackson74:
  and you still think there is such a thing as the Marshy 
  Effect?
  
 You remind me of Gordon Ramsey, the cook. Only a boor like 
 that would hijack a discussion to make fun of a flooding 
 over in India that killed a lot of poor people. 
 
 You suck as an informant!
 
   Have our Brothers on Purusha been heard of since?
  
   Floods and landslides have killed at least 19 people 
   and destroyed buildings after heavy rain in North 
   India.
  
  Fifteen people died in Uttarakhand state. Another four 
   lost their lives in Himachal Pradesh, officials say.
  
  Footage showed a three-storey apartment building being 
  washed away in the town of Uttarkashi. Reports said at 
  least three people died - more are missing.
  
  Another 40 people are unaccounted for in Uttarakhand. 
  Casualty figures are expected to rise.
  
  http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-22936533
 





[FairfieldLife] the marshy effect

2013-06-18 Thread Michael Jackson
I am still innocent enough to be willing to believe that something one does on 
the inside can effect what happens on the outside.

But I am not willing to believe that group practice of TM Sidhi program has any 
of the effects the TMO claims it does. The so-called evidence is all flawed and 
ridiculous. Maybe I would be more willing to believe if I had not lived at MIU 
for 2 years. 


At MIU as I did program in the Dome, I watched the administration and sometimes 
the faculty misuse and abuse staff , students, and town employees. I watched 
people of all faiths, colors and nationalities come together in the Domes and 
then go to the dining hall where the foreign students would often sit 
disparaging and making fun of the Americans. 


I watched the governors and executive governors and a few ministers lord it 
over everyone that was beneath them in the Movement hierarchy. I watched Big 
Bopper Bevan and Little Johnnie Hagelin make all kinds of claims about the 
great effects we were having in the world consciousness, meanwhile a town 
person was coming into the women's dorm and exposing himself to the ladies 
while the inept security guys (headed up by that ass James Bedinger) bungle 
around like the keystone cops while this guy repeatedly broke into the dorm and 
terrified the women.

I heard about the grand effects the sidhas and governors were having in the 
atmosphere and watched all the dedicated sidhas slipping, sliding and busting 
their asses on the ice deposited by a big ol' ice storm all over Fairfield. 


I heard all about the marshy effect while watching life go on as usual in 
Faifield and Jefferson County with robberies, fraud, accidents, sickness, 
murders and so on. So don't tell me there is any such thing as the marshy 
effect. I know from observation there is no such thing. 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Booger from Space

2013-06-18 Thread nablusoss1008


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote:

 The idea of benign or hostile space aliens from other planets visiting 
 the earth [is clearly] an emotional idea. There are two sorts of 
 self-deception here: either accepting the idea of extraterrestrial 
 visitation by space aliens in the face of very meager evidence because 
 we want it to be true; or rejecting such an idea out of hand, in the 
 absence of sufficient evidence, because we don't want it to be true. 
 Each of these extremes is a serious impediment to the study of UFOs.
 
   
    - Carl Sagan

Contrary to lens-flare-Xeno and it's-water(!)-in-the-satellite-Salyavin at 
least Sagan seem to be open to the possibility of extraterrestrial visitation.



Re: [FairfieldLife] Uttarkashi Flash Flooded Brothers R fine there from1 there

2013-06-18 Thread WLeed3
Went to the cafe   so reported to me.
 
 
In a message dated 6/17/2013 9:52:20 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
dhamiltony...@yahoo.com writes:

Have our  Brothers on Purusha been heard of since?

Floods and landslides have  killed at least 19 people and destroyed 
buildings after heavy rain in North  India.

Fifteen people died in Uttarakhand state. Another four lost  their lives in 
Himachal Pradesh, officials say.

Footage showed a  three-storey apartment building being washed away in the 
town of Uttarkashi.  Reports said at least three people died - more are 
missing.

Another 40  people are unaccounted for in Uttarakhand. Casualty figures are 
expected to  rise.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-22936533






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Getting the Metadata

2013-06-18 Thread Richard J. Williams
Get rid of the NSA, IRS, EPA, and the FBI? 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote:

 Old news, Richard and being the pragmatist I am, I have but one question: 
 what is to be done about it.
 
 
 
  
 
  From: Richard J. Williams richard@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 9:56 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Getting the Metadata
  
 
 
   
 That metadata includes which version of the 
 operating system, browser and Java software 
 are being used on millions of devices around 
 the world
 
 Bloomberg:
 http://tinyurl.com/mvaew4f





Re: [FairfieldLife] Getting the Metadata

2013-06-18 Thread Bhairitu
On 06/18/2013 07:56 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote:
 That metadata includes which version of the
 operating system, browser and Java software
 are being used on millions of devices around
 the world

 Bloomberg:
 http://tinyurl.com/mvaew4f



Very standard stuff you get back from your web host.  It is primarily 
used to determine how many customers you have on each OS. If you have a 
problems with certain browsers. Also identify mobile devices and route 
them to a mobile version of your site.  Not all that useful as far as 
spying on anymore except of the IP and many of those are leased and 
change for the user.  It can help is someone is having problems 
downloading or if some jerk is trying to do a DOS attack on your site.

The bad stuff is routing the Internet through places like the NSA where 
they can collect your emails and look at them if they feel they need 
to.  Through a Scanner Darkly was a fairly good movie based on a 
Philip K Dick story about a surveillance society.  It's possible bored 
workers at the NSA scan for hot emails to share amongst themselves.



[FairfieldLife] Re: book on Bliss by TM teacher 70's or 80's

2013-06-18 Thread geminitiger1950
hi, thanks but its not that one,i even wrote to him and he couldnt recall the 
book i was trying to locate,although he did say he had an experience of bliss 
coming back from MMY in spain that lasted for a week and thats exactly what the 
 book im trying to remember said at the beginning which seems strange,in the 
index the word Bliss isnt even in it,the book was about bliss I'm certain,isnt 
that strange that he posted to me he had that week long bliss just like the  
author of the book I'm wanting to find,similar year too,hmm.
regards
 chris



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@... wrote:

 It could be The Brain Book, by Peter Russell, first published 1979, I think, 
 with the type of cover you recall. There is a new edition of that book now 
 availsble. 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geminitiger1950 no_reply@ wrote:
 
  im trying to locate the namre of the  author /title of a book I read in the 
  late 70's or 80's it had bliss in the title maybe brain as well,bluish 
  purplish cover.anyone recall it
   thanks
 




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: My Experience Practicing TM

2013-06-18 Thread Bhairitu
I've never gotten it to work on an email client.  You need to do it from 
the web site.  The hot linking many folks do here is also not considered 
kosher.

On 06/17/2013 09:19 PM, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com wrote:
 Thanks, I have a PeeCee, so I'll keep tinkering.

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@... wrote:


 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote:
 Ann, or anyone else, how do you paste in a graphic so that it is visible? I 
 have tried linking from an online site like flickr, but cannot control the 
 image size, once it appears in the message (often way too big).
 Jesus, I am the last one to ask for technical assistance but since I use a 
 Mac it is easy. You just have to be sure to grab an image off the internet 
 directly. I simply use rich-text editor and drag the damn thing into the 
 post I am making. It is different if you are using a PC. Someone here can 
 explain that one better and I might have made an error in what I said about 
 a Mac, but it works for me, so far.





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Uttarkashi Flash Flooded

2013-06-18 Thread Michael Jackson
you are an idiot as you have proven many times. - in no way shape or form do I 
say or imply that the disaster would have been worse without purusha in 
proximity - get Richey, TMSP group practice is a non-event - when mother nature 
does what she wants to, the effect is the same with our without yogic flying 
groups 





 From: Richard J. Williams rich...@rwilliams.us
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 11:58 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Uttarkashi Flash Flooded
 


  
Using your kind of logic the disaster could have been
worse without the Purusha boys. Listen to yourself:
Poor people have to get killed so you can prove your
point. Where did you learn logic ~ from the same guys
that taught you human global warming? Go figure.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote:

 it is legit when the TMO and its adherents claim that group TMSP prevents 
 such disasters, and with a large Purusha group within walking distance - come 
 on! Same as all the crap that is going on in Latin America when idjits claim 
 Raja Luis is working wonders with the 8,000 TMSP practitioners - I stopped 
 posting the Latin America stuff cause its become redundant.
 
 Can't have it both ways - if you believe group flying does a damn thing in 
 the world's atmosphere you can't whine and complain when people point out it 
 doesn't work.
 
 
 
 
 
  From: Richard J. Williams richard@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 9:49 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Uttarkashi Flash Flooded
 
 
 
   
 
 
 mjackson74:
  and you still think there is such a thing as the Marshy 
  Effect?
  
 You remind me of Gordon Ramsey, the cook. Only a boor like 
 that would hijack a discussion to make fun of a flooding 
 over in India that killed a lot of poor people. 
 
 You suck as an informant!
 
   Have our Brothers on Purusha been heard of since?
  
   Floods and landslides have killed at least 19 people 
   and destroyed buildings after heavy rain in North 
   India.
  
  Fifteen people died in Uttarakhand state. Another four 
   lost their lives in Himachal Pradesh, officials say.
  
  Footage showed a three-storey apartment building being 
  washed away in the town of Uttarkashi. Reports said at 
  least three people died - more are missing.
  
  Another 40 people are unaccounted for in Uttarakhand. 
  Casualty figures are expected to rise.
  
  http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-22936533
 



 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Uttarkashi Flash Flooded

2013-06-18 Thread Ravi Chivukula
There's the Ravi effect, my mom just got back from a trip there - before
the floods started.

A trip to Gangotri, Yamunotri, Badrinath  Kedarnath, her first -
supposedly a cool thing Hindus should do in their lifetime. I'm fine with
trips to the Sierra Nevadas and retreat back to the Pacific Ocean.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chota_Char_Dham



On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 4:05 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.comwrote:

 **


 and you still think there is such a thing as the Marshy Effect?


   --
  *From:* Buck dhamiltony...@yahoo.com
 *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 *Sent:* Monday, June 17, 2013 9:52 PM
 *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Uttarkashi Flash Flooded


 Have our Brothers on Purusha been heard of since?

 Floods and landslides have killed at least 19 people and destroyed
 buildings after heavy rain in North India.

 Fifteen people died in Uttarakhand state. Another four lost their lives in
 Himachal Pradesh, officials say.

 Footage showed a three-storey apartment building being washed away in the
 town of Uttarkashi. Reports said at least three people died - more are
 missing.

 Another 40 people are unaccounted for in Uttarakhand. Casualty figures are
 expected to rise.

 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-22936533



   



[FairfieldLife] Re: Booger from Space

2013-06-18 Thread obbajeeba


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@... wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@ wrote:
 
  Thank god for reading glasses!  
  Thought the subject title was Boner from Space.
  It kind of fits too, if you really think about it.
  A guy can claim to know all the hidden mysteries and 
  capture a woman's curiosity, thereby planting a 
  seed when he uses big words like extraterrestrial. It
  is a long word. 
  He grabs the arm of the woman and says, Oh look! What do I see honey?!!  
  http://www.foxnews.com/science/2013/06/12/spooky-photo-shows-ufo-above-medieval-castle/
  Boners from Space is not far fetched. 
 
 Obba, you have been talking an awful lot about sex and boners and elephants 
 with boners and mother fuckers lately. This can only mean one of two things; 
 you're either getting a lot of it right now or you're not getting any. But my 
 favourite so far has been the I have to Gopi statement the other day.

All because I needed my glasses!  LOL
Elephants matched up with Bucky's story about the no Saint policy!
Ann, and tell me when a Father celebrating a Father's Day is not a Mother 
fucker?  He had to have sex with a woman who became a Mother!
I could be one or both of your either questioning of getting it or not. hahaha
What did Sigmund Freud have to say about life? :)
Does what he said really matter? 
Excuse me, I have to go pee. brb


   
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote:
  
   The idea of benign or hostile space aliens from other planets visiting 
   the earth [is clearly] an emotional idea. There are two sorts of 
   self-deception here: either accepting the idea of extraterrestrial 
   visitation by space aliens in the face of very meager evidence because 
   we want it to be true; or rejecting such an idea out of hand, in the 
   absence of sufficient evidence, because we don't want it to be true. 
   Each of these extremes is a serious impediment to the study of UFOs.
   
     
      - Carl Sagan
  
 





[FairfieldLife] Buck and the Dome

2013-06-18 Thread Michael Jackson
Alright Buck, try as I might, I have not been able to convince you that you are 
not going to have any effect on world events no matter how many people are 
sleeping in the Domes.

So a couple questions - do the Dome numbers the official count, mind you, do 
these numbers include the other flying groups in Fairfield like the Vedic City 
one? Do they include any so-called peace palaces around the country that 
co-ordinate program times?

And last but most importantly, since it is not likely that anyone with sense 
will have control over the Movement ever, and that means no end to the 
anti-meditator, not seeing no saints policy, what do you think the effect of 
such a continued policy will mean for the rest of this year?


[FairfieldLife] Re: Buck and the Dome

2013-06-18 Thread card


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote:

 Alright Buck, try as I might, I have not been able to convince you that you 
 are not going to have any effect on world events no matter how many people 
 are sleeping in the Domes.
 
 So a couple questions - do the Dome numbers the official count, mind you, do 
 these numbers include the other flying groups in Fairfield like the Vedic 
 City one? Do they include any so-called peace palaces around the country that 
 co-ordinate program times?
 
 And last but most importantly, since it is not likely that anyone with sense 
 will have control over the Movement ever, and that means no end to the 
 anti-meditator, not seeing no saints policy, what do you think the effect of 
 such a continued policy will mean for the rest of this year?


At the end of July, there's gonna be a rounding course near
my home town, the birth place of Nokia Corp (oh, shucks!), Tampere
Finland. Some ten miles away from the center of the town, as
the crow flies, or stuff.

I'm about 95 percent certain, that the weather shall be
gorgeous around here during that course, provided that
at least 15 yffers are amongst the participants. And all
kinds of positive happenings shall prolly take place!

http://www.mobiflip.de/zoom-reinvented-nokia-event-am-11-juli-in-new-york/



[FairfieldLife] Re: Buck and the Dome

2013-06-18 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, card cardemaister@... wrote:

 At the end of July, there's gonna be a rounding course near
 my home town, the birth place of Nokia Corp (oh, shucks!), Tampere
 Finland. 

It looks like a cool place.

https://www.google.com/search?hl=ensite=imghptbm=ischsource=hpbiw=1018bih=522q=Tampere+Finlandoq=Tampere+Finlandgs_l=img.3..0l5j0i5j0i24l4.798.798.0.4497.1.1.0.0.0.0.161.161.0j1.1.0...0.0...1ac.1.17.img.kLi3wmK7MVI#imgrc=_

http://tinyurl.com/mg2lu8t





[FairfieldLife] The Bridge, in going to show the US, after all

2013-06-18 Thread turquoiseb
If you get FX, you should really try to check out this
series. It is without question the best TV series I saw
last year. 

http://www.salon.com/2013/06/18/on_the_bridge_normal_is_dangerous/

Sofia Helin's performance as a cop with Asperger's is 
a force majeure, a work of art. 





[FairfieldLife] Re: The Bridge, in going to show the US, after all

2013-06-18 Thread turquoiseb
My mistake. In my haste to share the good news, I posted
the article without reading it first, because it had a 
photo of the original series at the top. It seems to be
a review of the original Danish series, piggybacking off
of FX's remake of the series. I'll give the remake a shot, 
because the remake of The Killing wasn't horrible, but
I'm not hopeful. Hold out for the original, if you can
find it.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 If you get FX, you should really try to check out this
 series. It is without question the best TV series I saw
 last year. 
 
 http://www.salon.com/2013/06/18/on_the_bridge_normal_is_dangerous/
 
 Sofia Helin's performance as a cop with Asperger's is 
 a force majeure, a work of art.





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Bridge, in going to show the US, after all

2013-06-18 Thread Share Long
Thanks anyway, I found the article not only enjoyable as to the writing style 
but also as to the insights made about unusual people.





 From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 4:01 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Bridge, in going to show the US, after all
 


  
My mistake. In my haste to share the good news, I posted
the article without reading it first, because it had a 
photo of the original series at the top. It seems to be
a review of the original Danish series, piggybacking off
of FX's remake of the series. I'll give the remake a shot, 
because the remake of The Killing wasn't horrible, but
I'm not hopeful. Hold out for the original, if you can
find it.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 If you get FX, you should really try to check out this
 series. It is without question the best TV series I saw
 last year. 
 
 http://www.salon.com/2013/06/18/on_the_bridge_normal_is_dangerous/
 
 Sofia Helin's performance as a cop with Asperger's is 
 a force majeure, a work of art.



 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Patanjali's Sutra Relating to the Navel Chakra

2013-06-18 Thread Share Long
John, that is fascinating about the stones and the healing sounds. Of course 
everything is vibration so it makes sense to me that anything can be used to 
heal. If one has the beneficial knowledge. I remember once in DC a reporter 
asked Dr. Triguna about using light for healing and he replied that it was a 
very powerful form of healing, especially using light via gems.

I just received a newsletter from jyotishi Sam Geppi talking about the Moon's 
situation this coming week. I was glad to hear that the Saturn Rahu conjunction 
is receiving help from Jupiter. But then the Moon
 will be debilitated plus getting an aspect from Mars. Glad I had a Mars puja 
recently.


Here's what a friend sent about our drekkanas.  Our lagnas are 1 degree apart 
and our Moons are in the same nakshatra!
The 1st drekkana Libra ascending suggests a
  courteous, affable, kind and affectionate disposition.
  The fate is mostly in the hands of others, as there is
  little ability to mould or alter circumstances. The
  native is controlled principally by feeling and
  intuition, more so than reason. He is keen of
  observation, fond of company, and generally very
  artistic, refined and truly sympathetic. There is not
  much energy or incentive to action, and consequently
  life tends to run in grooves as the native is prone to
  lean on others for support. 

He also send me a chart I've been wanting to see, Oprah's!

29 January 1954 at 04:30am CST
She has Rahu in the 1st. Conjunct Chiron. Venus
  combust with Uranus and Ketu in the 7th.
Loose grand trine of Merc, Jupiter and Neptune.

Jyotish:
http://www.barbarapijan.com/bpa/Commerce/commerce28_Oprah_Winfrey.htm



 From: John jr_...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 11:34 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Patanjali's Sutra Relating to the Navel Chakra
 


  
Share,

There's jyotish literature that splits the body in three ways depending on the 
drekkana (10 degrees) that one is born in.  For example, if you were born with 
the lagna on the first drekkana, then the rashi chart would show the head to 
the shoulder of the individual.

The other two drekkanas would refer to the torso and the lower parts of the 
body.  If you have a medical background, you can do some  fascinating research 
on this subject.  IMO, it's possible to pinpoint the root of the disease at the 
cellular level and even the DNA level just by using the rashi chart and the 
various varga charts.

Theoretically, one can see the medical issues of a person before it starts.  
But the fruit of the knowledge is to know the cures for the various diseases.  
In the Vedic culture, the cure lies in the ayurvedic herbs and mantras.

A few months ago, I saw a video about the Egyptian culture and the pyramids.  
One traditional keeper of the knowledge stated that the ancient Egyptians cured 
people by sounds.  He showed some huge granite stones that were carved like 
dishes.  He believed that these stones were used for treating people, while 
lying on the stone, with sounds.  He did not know the details of how the stones 
were able to do this.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote:

 John, this is fascinating about the left and right brains and upper and lower 
 charts. Whoops, my secret is out. I still prefer the Western circular chart 
 form to either of the jyotish chart forms. I prefer the circular chart 
 because it graphically shows both the ascendent as earth's horizon and the 
 chart as the face of a clock, which can be useful for guessing about 
 ascendents when the exact birth time is not known. For example, cusp of first 
 house is 6 am, cusp of 10th house is 12 noon, etc.
 
 
 Thank you for wish about my Dad. I sent him a fruit pie from Harry and David.
 
 
 
  From: John jr_esq@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2013 1:07 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Patanjali's Sutra Relating to the Navel Chakra
 
 
 
   
 Aside from suggesting the knowledge of the various chakras, it can be assumed 
 that the navel chakra refers to the birth chart which systematically shows 
 the organization of the human body.  Specifically, the first house refers to 
 the head and the 12th house refers to the feet.
 
 The birth chart can also refer to the brain of the human being.  The first 
 six houses refer to the right side of the brain.  And, the last six house 
 refer to the left side of the brain.
 
 http://www.india-astrologer.com/vedic_astrology/Medical-Astrology/aries.html



 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Ayurved comes to the rescue of the aging FFL community

2013-06-18 Thread Share Long
Also coconut oil:
http://www.tampabay.com/news/aging/doctor-says-an-oil-lessened-alzheimers-effects-on-her-husband/879333





 From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 2:47 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Ayurved comes to the rescue of the aging FFL community
 


  
 
http://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/turmeric-produces-remarkable-recovery-alzheimers-patients
 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Uttarkashi Flash Flooded

2013-06-18 Thread doctordumbass
Very cool pictures. Kedarnath temple is striking, with the peaks right out the 
back door. Yamunotri reminds me of a little known Friendship Garden, right next 
to a river, carved between two peaks, on Maui. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote:

 There's the Ravi effect, my mom just got back from a trip there - before
 the floods started.
 
 A trip to Gangotri, Yamunotri, Badrinath  Kedarnath, her first -
 supposedly a cool thing Hindus should do in their lifetime. I'm fine with
 trips to the Sierra Nevadas and retreat back to the Pacific Ocean.
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chota_Char_Dham
 
 
 
 On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 4:05 AM, Michael Jackson mjackson74@...wrote:
 
  **
 
 
  and you still think there is such a thing as the Marshy Effect?
 
 
--
   *From:* Buck dhamiltony2k5@...
  *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  *Sent:* Monday, June 17, 2013 9:52 PM
  *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Uttarkashi Flash Flooded
 
 
  Have our Brothers on Purusha been heard of since?
 
  Floods and landslides have killed at least 19 people and destroyed
  buildings after heavy rain in North India.
 
  Fifteen people died in Uttarakhand state. Another four lost their lives in
  Himachal Pradesh, officials say.
 
  Footage showed a three-storey apartment building being washed away in the
  town of Uttarkashi. Reports said at least three people died - more are
  missing.
 
  Another 40 people are unaccounted for in Uttarakhand. Casualty figures are
  expected to rise.
 
  http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-22936533
 
 
 

 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Buck and the Dome

2013-06-18 Thread Buck


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote:

 
 And last but most importantly, since it is not likely that anyone with sense 
 will have control over the Movement ever, and that means no end to the 
 anti-meditator, not seeing no saints policy, what do you think the effect of 
 such a continued policy will mean for the rest of this year?


A failure to obtain a proper critical mass of meditation. 

Dear MJ, Failure here to achieve a proper Meissner Effect [ME] of collective 
consciousness in meditation is unacceptable. It would be unconscionable.
-Buck in the Dome 






Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Buck and the Dome

2013-06-18 Thread Michael Jackson
so what do you think that will mean in terms of national and world events?

And do the Dome numbers take into account the other Fairfield flying groups?





 From: Buck dhamiltony...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 6:09 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Buck and the Dome
 


  


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote:

 
 And last but most importantly, since it is not likely that anyone with sense 
 will have control over the Movement ever, and that means no end to the 
 anti-meditator, not seeing no saints policy, what do you think the effect of 
 such a continued policy will mean for the rest of this year?


A failure to obtain a proper critical mass of meditation. 

Dear MJ, Failure here to achieve a proper Meissner Effect [ME] of collective 
consciousness in meditation is unacceptable. It would be unconscionable.
-Buck in the Dome 


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Buck and the Dome

2013-06-18 Thread card


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, card cardemaister@ wrote:
 
  At the end of July, there's gonna be a rounding course near
  my home town, the birth place of Nokia Corp (oh, shucks!), Tampere
  Finland. 
 
 It looks like a cool place.
 
 https://www.google.com/search?hl=ensite=imghptbm=ischsource=hpbiw=1018bih=522q=Tampere+Finlandoq=Tampere+Finlandgs_l=img.3..0l5j0i5j0i24l4.798.798.0.4497.1.1.0.0.0.0.161.161.0j1.1.0...0.0...1ac.1.17.img.kLi3wmK7MVI#imgrc=_
 
 http://tinyurl.com/mg2lu8t


Yeah, geographically, etc, perhaps. My mother hated the mentality,
though. She was from elsewhere in F-land. Ditto myself, there's
something here that repels me. At least the chicks are not
very attractive. 

OTOH, some outsiders like Tampere being no-ones town...

But the actual rounding takes place here:

http://www.voionmaanopisto.fi/en_us/home/

(voi, on maa = oh, is land...)




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Bridge, in going to show the US, after all

2013-06-18 Thread Bhairitu
Debuts July 10th which for some of us means we haven't watched much of 
FX since The Americans finale in May unless you are into Wilfred.  
Season 3 of The Killing has been good thus far.  Borgen is available 
as a PAL DVD and Region B Bluray on Amazon if you are a must have 
person and have the right gear.

On 06/18/2013 02:01 PM, turquoiseb wrote:
 My mistake. In my haste to share the good news, I posted
 the article without reading it first, because it had a
 photo of the original series at the top. It seems to be
 a review of the original Danish series, piggybacking off
 of FX's remake of the series. I'll give the remake a shot,
 because the remake of The Killing wasn't horrible, but
 I'm not hopeful. Hold out for the original, if you can
 find it.

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
 If you get FX, you should really try to check out this
 series. It is without question the best TV series I saw
 last year.

 http://www.salon.com/2013/06/18/on_the_bridge_normal_is_dangerous/

 Sofia Helin's performance as a cop with Asperger's is
 a force majeure, a work of art.






Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Uttarkashi Flash Flooded

2013-06-18 Thread Ravi Chivukula
Thanks Jim - my mom really enjoyed the beauty of the place but was super
tired, had issues with her knees by the end of it. She's not real healthy
for someone who's only 64 and the trip involved hardship - chopper rides,
rides/treks on hand-held carriages for some of those remote spots. I had to
arrange flight tickets so she flew back from Delhi to Hyderabad instead of
the train ride.

She was actually was planning a trip to Kailash  -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kailash#Pilgrimage, but that didn't pan out.
Anyway she has traveled so much in her life and she loves to travel -
something I do as well.

The flooding seems pretty serious - just read this article
http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-news/Uttarakhand/Over-130-killed-in-North-India-rains-Kedarnath-town-in-Uttarakhand-ruined/Article1-1078410.aspx



On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 3:01 PM, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com 
no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 **


 Very cool pictures. Kedarnath temple is striking, with the peaks right out
 the back door. Yamunotri reminds me of a little known Friendship Garden,
 right next to a river, carved between two peaks, on Maui.

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@...
 wrote:
 
  There's the Ravi effect, my mom just got back from a trip there - before
  the floods started.
 
  A trip to Gangotri, Yamunotri, Badrinath  Kedarnath, her first -
  supposedly a cool thing Hindus should do in their lifetime. I'm fine with
  trips to the Sierra Nevadas and retreat back to the Pacific Ocean.
 
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chota_Char_Dham
 
 
 
  On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 4:05 AM, Michael Jackson mjackson74@...wrote:
 
   **

  
  
   and you still think there is such a thing as the Marshy Effect?
  
  
   --
   *From:* Buck dhamiltony2k5@...
   *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
   *Sent:* Monday, June 17, 2013 9:52 PM
   *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Uttarkashi Flash Flooded

  
  
   Have our Brothers on Purusha been heard of since?
  
   Floods and landslides have killed at least 19 people and destroyed
   buildings after heavy rain in North India.
  
   Fifteen people died in Uttarakhand state. Another four lost their
 lives in
   Himachal Pradesh, officials say.
  
   Footage showed a three-storey apartment building being washed away in
 the
   town of Uttarkashi. Reports said at least three people died - more are
   missing.
  
   Another 40 people are unaccounted for in Uttarakhand. Casualty figures
 are
   expected to rise.
  
   http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-22936533
  
  
  
  
  
 

  



[FairfieldLife] Re: Uttarkashi Flash Flooded

2013-06-18 Thread laughinggull108
Thank you Raviji for this information. I am planning such a trip next year and 
didn't know it was called that. Weatherwise and avoiding the crowds, what in 
your opinion is the best time to attempt such a pilgrimage? I'm thinking 
towards the end of the season before the winter sets in at that altitude. 
Anyone else want to come?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote:

 There's the Ravi effect, my mom just got back from a trip there - before
 the floods started.
 
 A trip to Gangotri, Yamunotri, Badrinath  Kedarnath, her first -
 supposedly a cool thing Hindus should do in their lifetime. I'm fine with
 trips to the Sierra Nevadas and retreat back to the Pacific Ocean.
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chota_Char_Dham
 
 
 
 On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 4:05 AM, Michael Jackson mjackson74@...wrote:
 
  **
 
 
  and you still think there is such a thing as the Marshy Effect?
 
 
--
   *From:* Buck dhamiltony2k5@...
  *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  *Sent:* Monday, June 17, 2013 9:52 PM
  *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Uttarkashi Flash Flooded
 
 
  Have our Brothers on Purusha been heard of since?
 
  Floods and landslides have killed at least 19 people and destroyed
  buildings after heavy rain in North India.
 
  Fifteen people died in Uttarakhand state. Another four lost their lives in
  Himachal Pradesh, officials say.
 
  Footage showed a three-storey apartment building being washed away in the
  town of Uttarkashi. Reports said at least three people died - more are
  missing.
 
  Another 40 people are unaccounted for in Uttarakhand. Casualty figures are
  expected to rise.
 
  http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-22936533
 
 
 

 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Judy Stein as prison groupie

2013-06-18 Thread laughinggull108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@... wrote:

 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
  
   That's one way of looking at the situation. There
   are others.
 
  And here's one of them. I present it just *as* a theory,
  and as opinion. Unlike Judy, who tends to present *her*
  opinions and theories as if they were Absolute Fact,
  and the disputing of them a crime. :-)
 
  It struck me this morning that what Judy reminds me
  of with regard to her ongoing defense of Robin
  are those women who develop crushes on men confined
  to prison for life.
 
  Such women exist. They develop a strange fascination
  with a serial killer or some other lifer they've
  never met, and bombard them with letters, seeking to
  be their pen pals or lovers from afar or whatever
  they imagine themselves to *be* to these men. In some
  cases, these women have actually MARRIED the prisoners,
  even though they'll never spend a night together.
 
  My theory is that there's a bit of that in Judy Stein
  and her obsession with Robin. He's SAFE to obsess on,
  off there in the prison-of-his-own-making, having
  cut *himself* off from further communication. So she
  fawns and gushes over him from afar, trying to butter
  him up and hoping beyond hope that someday he'll
  come back to FFL and appreciate her for becoming
  what he was never able to achieve in real life -- a
  totally devoted cult follower.
 
  One wonders whether she imagines some odd *romance*
  going on between her and Robin, one that has been
  somehow frustrated by evil people like Curtis and
  Steve and myself getting in the way of their True
  Love.
 
  Altogether fairly odd behavior for a woman he never
  found interesting enough to have any long conversation
  with while he was actually around. Real in-her-head
  stalker fantasy stuff.
 
  It's just a theory. But run it through your internal
  processors and see if it doesn't describe her behavior
  pretty well. And if it doesn't explain it for you,
  come up with your own theory.
 
  But I warn you...if your Theory Of Judy Stein And
  Why She Does The Things She Does conflicts with her
  fantasy view of who she is and why *she* thinks she
  does what she does, you'll wind up on her Enemies
  List. And she tends to obsess on her perceived
  enemies the same way she tends to obsess on those
  she has fantasy romantic relationships with in
  her head.  :-) Just in case you were hoping for some minion-type
 response in rebuttal for your obvious button pushing routine I have
 included a wonderful recipe below. Try it, you won't be
 disappointed.Sachertorte
 Epicurious  | November 2004
 
 by Rick Rodgers
 
 Kaffeehaus: The Best Desserts from the Classic Cafés of Vienna,
 Budapest, and Prague
 http://www.amazon.com/Kaffeehaus-Exquisite-Desserts-Classic-Budapest/dp\
 /0609604538/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF
 
 photo by Epicurious
 
 * recipe
 http://www.epicurious.com/recipes/food/views/Sachertorte-231043
 * reviews (32)
 http://www.epicurious.com/recipes/food/reviews/Sachertorte-231043
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 http://www.epicurious.com/recipes/food/video/Sachertorte-231043
 * wine pairings
 http://www.epicurious.com/recipes/food/wine-pairings/Sachertorte-231043\
 
 * my notes
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 * find out more
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 user rating
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 Sachertorte4 forks
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 main ingredientsChocolate
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 yield: Makes 12 to 16 servings
 
 Editor's note: The recipe and introductory text below are excerpted from
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 * 9 tablespoons (1 stick plus 1 tablespoon) unsalted butter, at cool
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 * 1 cup confectioners' sugar
 * 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Uttarkashi Flash Flooded

2013-06-18 Thread nablusoss1008


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 no_reply@... wrote:

 Thank you Raviji for this information. I am planning such a trip next year 
 and didn't know it was called that. Weatherwise and avoiding the crowds, what 
 in your opinion is the best time to attempt such a pilgrimage? I'm thinking 
 towards the end of the season before the winter sets in at that altitude. 
 Anyone else want to come?

If you do TM laughin you should try Anamay Ashram, run by former Purusha's, 
great place in the Himalayas !




[FairfieldLife] Re: Buck and the Dome

2013-06-18 Thread Buck


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote:

 so what do you think that will mean in terms of national and world events?


Son, spiritually it is everything to everyone's well being.  The science and 
the experience is thus and tells me so.  That is enough. That is my science. 
Everyone should be coming to meditation.  It is the best most effective means 
of influencing events that any individual can do.  Every man, woman, and child; 
it should be everyone's duty to each other to take the time to have a quiet 
time transcendental meditation everyday for as long as they possibly can twice 
a day.
-Buck   

  And do the Dome numbers take into account the other Fairfield flying groups?
 


MJ, Right now the numbers on the white board in the dome lobby reflect the 
men's and women's Dome numbers of people meditating together there.  That is 
fine.  Numbers sitting up meditating and proximity are what evidently counts.  
Where two or more are gathered...  The numbers in the Domes are certainly what 
need to be watched.  In fact also now- a-days people are much more disciplined 
about actually sitting up and effectively doing the practice.  The Domes do 
hold quite a palpable spiritual field effect.  They are a fabulous place to 
meditate.
-Buck  
 
 
 
 
  From: Buck 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 6:09 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Buck and the Dome
  
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote:
 
  
  And last but most importantly, since it is not likely that anyone with 
  sense will have control over the Movement ever, and that means no end to 
  the anti-meditator, not seeing no saints policy, what do you think the 
  effect of such a continued policy will mean for the rest of this year?
 
 
 A failure to obtain a proper critical mass of meditation. 
 
 Dear MJ, Failure here to achieve a proper Meissner Effect [ME] of collective 
 consciousness in meditation is unacceptable. It would be unconscionable.
 -Buck in the Dome




[FairfieldLife] Re: Judy Stein as prison groupie

2013-06-18 Thread Ann


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 no_reply@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote:
 
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
   
That's one way of looking at the situation. There
are others.
  
   And here's one of them. I present it just *as* a theory,
   and as opinion. Unlike Judy, who tends to present *her*
   opinions and theories as if they were Absolute Fact,
   and the disputing of them a crime. :-)
  
   It struck me this morning that what Judy reminds me
   of with regard to her ongoing defense of Robin
   are those women who develop crushes on men confined
   to prison for life.
  
   Such women exist. They develop a strange fascination
   with a serial killer or some other lifer they've
   never met, and bombard them with letters, seeking to
   be their pen pals or lovers from afar or whatever
   they imagine themselves to *be* to these men. In some
   cases, these women have actually MARRIED the prisoners,
   even though they'll never spend a night together.
  
   My theory is that there's a bit of that in Judy Stein
   and her obsession with Robin. He's SAFE to obsess on,
   off there in the prison-of-his-own-making, having
   cut *himself* off from further communication. So she
   fawns and gushes over him from afar, trying to butter
   him up and hoping beyond hope that someday he'll
   come back to FFL and appreciate her for becoming
   what he was never able to achieve in real life -- a
   totally devoted cult follower.
  
   One wonders whether she imagines some odd *romance*
   going on between her and Robin, one that has been
   somehow frustrated by evil people like Curtis and
   Steve and myself getting in the way of their True
   Love.
  
   Altogether fairly odd behavior for a woman he never
   found interesting enough to have any long conversation
   with while he was actually around. Real in-her-head
   stalker fantasy stuff.
  
   It's just a theory. But run it through your internal
   processors and see if it doesn't describe her behavior
   pretty well. And if it doesn't explain it for you,
   come up with your own theory.
  
   But I warn you...if your Theory Of Judy Stein And
   Why She Does The Things She Does conflicts with her
   fantasy view of who she is and why *she* thinks she
   does what she does, you'll wind up on her Enemies
   List. And she tends to obsess on her perceived
   enemies the same way she tends to obsess on those
   she has fantasy romantic relationships with in
   her head.  :-) Just in case you were hoping for some minion-type
  response in rebuttal for your obvious button pushing routine I have
  included a wonderful recipe below. Try it, you won't be
  disappointed.Sachertorte
  Epicurious  | November 2004
  
  by Rick Rodgers
  
  Kaffeehaus: The Best Desserts from the Classic Cafés of Vienna,
  Budapest, and Prague
  http://www.amazon.com/Kaffeehaus-Exquisite-Desserts-Classic-Budapest/dp\
  /0609604538/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF
  
  photo by Epicurious
  
  * recipe
  http://www.epicurious.com/recipes/food/views/Sachertorte-231043
  * reviews (32)
  http://www.epicurious.com/recipes/food/reviews/Sachertorte-231043
  * photo
  http://www.epicurious.com/recipes/food/photo/Sachertorte-231043
  * video
  http://www.epicurious.com/recipes/food/video/Sachertorte-231043
  * wine pairings
  http://www.epicurious.com/recipes/food/wine-pairings/Sachertorte-231043\
  
  * my notes
  http://www.epicurious.com/recipes/food/views/Sachertorte-231043
  * find out more
  http://www.epicurious.com/recipes/food/more/Sachertorte-231043
  user rating
  93% would make it again
[user rating]
  user rating:
  Sachertorte4 forks
  rate this recipereview this recipeat a glance
  main ingredientsChocolate
  http://www.epicurious.com/tools/searchresults?att=86type=advanced , 
  Apricot
  http://www.epicurious.com/tools/searchresults?att=470type=advanced
  
  typeCake
  http://www.epicurious.com/tools/searchresults?att=28type=advanced
  cooks' toolsconversion chart
  http://www.epicurious.com/tools/conversions technique videos
  http://www.epicurious.com/video  [Sachertorte] 
  http://www.epicurious.com/recipes/food/photo/Sachertorte-231043
  enlarge image
  http://www.epicurious.com/recipes/food/photo/Sachertorte-231043
  yield: Makes 12 to 16 servings
  
  Editor's note: The recipe and introductory text below are excerpted from
  Rick Rodgers's book 
  http://www.amazon.com/Kaffeehaus-Exquisite-Desserts-Classic-Budapest/dp\
  /0609604538/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8s=booksqid=1237993518sr=8-1
  Kaffeehaus: The Best Desserts from the Classic Cafés of...
  http://www.amazon.com/Kaffeehaus-Exquisite-Desserts-Classic-Budapest/dp\
  /0609604538/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8s=booksqid=1237993518sr=8-1
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  * 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Uttarkashi Flash Flooded

2013-06-18 Thread Mike Dixon
Been there, done that. Best time to go would be late September early October. 
The monsoons have ended, crops are being harvested, roads cleared of 
landslides. It's not too hot but by the time you get to Badrinath it will be 
cold, at night. Days will be pleasant. Get all of your shots, get in shape for 
long walks, up hill. And DONT DRINK THE WATER! You might consider bringing a 
nutrient rich supplement in case you  get sick and can't eat for a while.


From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 4:18 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Uttarkashi Flash Flooded

  


--- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 no_reply@... 
wrote:

 Thank you Raviji for this information. I am planning such a trip next year 
 and didn't know it was called that. Weatherwise and avoiding the crowds, what 
 in your opinion is the best time to attempt such a pilgrimage? I'm thinking 
 towards the end of the season before the winter sets in at that altitude. 
 Anyone else want to come?

If you do TM laughin you should try Anamay Ashram, run by former Purusha's, 
great place in the Himalayas !




[FairfieldLife] Re: Patanjali's Sutra Relating to the Navel Chakra

2013-06-18 Thread John
Share,

Oprah's natal chart looks powerful.  IMO, the exalted Saturn in the 12th house 
is the planet that's giving her much success and money.  In the Brighu Nandi 
Nadi technique, Saturn is the significator for work and career.  In her chart, 
Jupiter is also having a bhava drishti (aspect) to Saturn.  Thus, her work 
success is multiplied many folds.

Since her 12th house is strong, she will do well in philanthropy and 
meditation.  If she stays with the TMO, she can easily be a Siddha and perhaps 
be one of the Rajahs in the organization.




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote:

 John, that is fascinating about the stones and the healing sounds. Of course 
 everything is vibration so it makes sense to me that anything can be used to 
 heal. If one has the beneficial knowledge. I remember once in DC a reporter 
 asked Dr. Triguna about using light for healing and he replied that it was a 
 very powerful form of healing, especially using light via gems.
 
 I just received a newsletter from jyotishi Sam Geppi talking about the Moon's 
 situation this coming week. I was glad to hear that the Saturn Rahu 
 conjunction is receiving help from Jupiter. But then the Moon
  will be debilitated plus getting an aspect from Mars. Glad I had a Mars puja 
 recently.
 
 
 Here's what a friend sent about our drekkanas.  Our lagnas are 1 degree 
 apart and our Moons are in the same nakshatra!
 The 1st drekkana Libra ascending suggests a
   courteous, affable, kind and affectionate disposition.
   The fate is mostly in the hands of others, as there is
   little ability to mould or alter circumstances. The
   native is controlled principally by feeling and
   intuition, more so than reason. He is keen of
   observation, fond of company, and generally very
   artistic, refined and truly sympathetic. There is not
   much energy or incentive to action, and consequently
   life tends to run in grooves as the native is prone to
   lean on others for support. 
 
 He also send me a chart I've been wanting to see, Oprah's!
 
 29 January 1954 at 04:30am CST
 She has Rahu in the 1st. Conjunct Chiron. Venus
   combust with Uranus and Ketu in the 7th.
 Loose grand trine of Merc, Jupiter and Neptune.
 
 Jyotish:
 http://www.barbarapijan.com/bpa/Commerce/commerce28_Oprah_Winfrey.htm
 
 
 
  From: John jr_esq@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 11:34 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Patanjali's Sutra Relating to the Navel Chakra
  
 
 
   
 Share,
 
 There's jyotish literature that splits the body in three ways depending on 
 the drekkana (10 degrees) that one is born in.  For example, if you were born 
 with the lagna on the first drekkana, then the rashi chart would show the 
 head to the shoulder of the individual.
 
 The other two drekkanas would refer to the torso and the lower parts of the 
 body.  If you have a medical background, you can do some  fascinating 
 research on this subject.  IMO, it's possible to pinpoint the root of the 
 disease at the cellular level and even the DNA level just by using the rashi 
 chart and the various varga charts.
 
 Theoretically, one can see the medical issues of a person before it starts.  
 But the fruit of the knowledge is to know the cures for the various diseases. 
  In the Vedic culture, the cure lies in the ayurvedic herbs and mantras.
 
 A few months ago, I saw a video about the Egyptian culture and the pyramids.  
 One traditional keeper of the knowledge stated that the ancient Egyptians 
 cured people by sounds.  He showed some huge granite stones that were carved 
 like dishes.  He believed that these stones were used for treating people, 
 while lying on the stone, with sounds.  He did not know the details of how 
 the stones were able to do this.
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote:
 
  John, this is fascinating about the left and right brains and upper and 
  lower charts. Whoops, my secret is out. I still prefer the Western circular 
  chart form to either of the jyotish chart forms. I prefer the circular 
  chart because it graphically shows both the ascendent as earth's horizon 
  and the chart as the face of a clock, which can be useful for guessing 
  about ascendents when the exact birth time is not known. For example, cusp 
  of first house is 6 am, cusp of 10th house is 12 noon, etc.
  
  
  Thank you for wish about my Dad. I sent him a fruit pie from Harry and 
  David.
  
  
  
   From: John jr_esq@
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2013 1:07 PM
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Patanjali's Sutra Relating to the Navel Chakra
  
  
  
    
  Aside from suggesting the knowledge of the various chakras, it can 

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Patanjali's Sutra Relating to the Navel Chakra

2013-06-18 Thread obbajeeba
LOL. Oprah, did you hear that? Your chart looks powerful. Good to tell someone 
this, with Rahu in their first house in a mar ruled sign!  lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4m37JkkGjAY

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote:

 Share,
 
 Oprah's natal chart looks powerful.  IMO, the exalted Saturn in the 12th 
 house is the planet that's giving her much success and money.  In the Brighu 
 Nandi Nadi technique, Saturn is the significator for work and career.  In her 
 chart, Jupiter is also having a bhava drishti (aspect) to Saturn.  Thus, her 
 work success is multiplied many folds.
 
 Since her 12th house is strong, she will do well in philanthropy and 
 meditation.  If she stays with the TMO, she can easily be a Siddha and 
 perhaps be one of the Rajahs in the organization.
 
 
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote:
 
  John, that is fascinating about the stones and the healing sounds. Of 
  course everything is vibration so it makes sense to me that anything can be 
  used to heal. If one has the beneficial knowledge. I remember once in DC a 
  reporter asked Dr. Triguna about using light for healing and he replied 
  that it was a very powerful form of healing, especially using light via 
  gems.
  
  I just received a newsletter from jyotishi Sam Geppi talking about the 
  Moon's situation this coming week. I was glad to hear that the Saturn Rahu 
  conjunction is receiving help from Jupiter. But then the Moon
   will be debilitated plus getting an aspect from Mars. Glad I had a Mars 
  puja recently.
  
  
  Here's what a friend sent about our drekkanas.  Our lagnas are 1 degree 
  apart and our Moons are in the same nakshatra!
  The 1st drekkana Libra ascending suggests a
courteous, affable, kind and affectionate disposition.
The fate is mostly in the hands of others, as there is
little ability to mould or alter circumstances. The
native is controlled principally by feeling and
intuition, more so than reason. He is keen of
observation, fond of company, and generally very
artistic, refined and truly sympathetic. There is not
much energy or incentive to action, and consequently
life tends to run in grooves as the native is prone to
lean on others for support. 
  
  He also send me a chart I've been wanting to see, Oprah's!
  
  29 January 1954 at 04:30am CST
  She has Rahu in the 1st. Conjunct Chiron. Venus
combust with Uranus and Ketu in the 7th.
  Loose grand trine of Merc, Jupiter and Neptune.
  
  Jyotish:
  http://www.barbarapijan.com/bpa/Commerce/commerce28_Oprah_Winfrey.htm
  
  
  
   From: John jr_esq@
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 11:34 AM
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Patanjali's Sutra Relating to the Navel Chakra
   
  
  
    
  Share,
  
  There's jyotish literature that splits the body in three ways depending on 
  the drekkana (10 degrees) that one is born in.  For example, if you were 
  born with the lagna on the first drekkana, then the rashi chart would show 
  the head to the shoulder of the individual.
  
  The other two drekkanas would refer to the torso and the lower parts of the 
  body.  If you have a medical background, you can do some  fascinating 
  research on this subject.  IMO, it's possible to pinpoint the root of the 
  disease at the cellular level and even the DNA level just by using the 
  rashi chart and the various varga charts.
  
  Theoretically, one can see the medical issues of a person before it starts. 
   But the fruit of the knowledge is to know the cures for the various 
  diseases.  In the Vedic culture, the cure lies in the ayurvedic herbs and 
  mantras.
  
  A few months ago, I saw a video about the Egyptian culture and the 
  pyramids.  One traditional keeper of the knowledge stated that the ancient 
  Egyptians cured people by sounds.  He showed some huge granite stones that 
  were carved like dishes.  He believed that these stones were used for 
  treating people, while lying on the stone, with sounds.  He did not know 
  the details of how the stones were able to do this.
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote:
  
   John, this is fascinating about the left and right brains and upper and 
   lower charts. Whoops, my secret is out. I still prefer the Western 
   circular chart form to either of the jyotish chart forms. I prefer the 
   circular chart because it graphically shows both the ascendent as earth's 
   horizon and the chart as the face of a clock, which can be useful for 
   guessing about ascendents when the exact birth time is not known. For 
   example, cusp of first house is 6 am, cusp of 10th house is 12 noon, etc.
   
   
   Thank you for wish about my 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Uttarkashi Flash Flooded

2013-06-18 Thread Ravi Chivukula
LG-ji - I have never been to this area - Uttarakhand. Looks like Mike D has
good suggestions - I would have suggested the same, avoid the monsoons. So
anytime between Sep - May, but then it can still rain through November.
December is when the dry season starts and lasts through May. May can be
superhot, Dec/Jan super cold. So either Sep/Oct/Nov or Feb/Mar - these may
be good times.

I will check with my mom and update later. She may have good suggestions
and can ask others, since she has stayed in Varanasi for a long time and
traveled quite a bit.

Anyway - yes Char Dham, literally four abodes, places that needs to be
visited by Hindus, the main one being -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Char_Dham



On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 4:08 PM, laughinggull108
no_re...@yahoogroups.comwrote:

 **


 Thank you Raviji for this information. I am planning such a trip next year
 and didn't know it was called that. Weatherwise and avoiding the crowds,
 what in your opinion is the best time to attempt such a pilgrimage? I'm
 thinking towards the end of the season before the winter sets in at that
 altitude. Anyone else want to come?


 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@...
 wrote:
 
  There's the Ravi effect, my mom just got back from a trip there - before
  the floods started.
 
  A trip to Gangotri, Yamunotri, Badrinath  Kedarnath, her first -
  supposedly a cool thing Hindus should do in their lifetime. I'm fine with
  trips to the Sierra Nevadas and retreat back to the Pacific Ocean.
 
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chota_Char_Dham
 
 
 
  On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 4:05 AM, Michael Jackson mjackson74@...wrote:
 
   **

  
  
   and you still think there is such a thing as the Marshy Effect?
  
  
   --
   *From:* Buck dhamiltony2k5@...
   *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
   *Sent:* Monday, June 17, 2013 9:52 PM
   *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Uttarkashi Flash Flooded

  
  
   Have our Brothers on Purusha been heard of since?
  
   Floods and landslides have killed at least 19 people and destroyed
   buildings after heavy rain in North India.
  
   Fifteen people died in Uttarakhand state. Another four lost their
 lives in
   Himachal Pradesh, officials say.
  
   Footage showed a three-storey apartment building being washed away in
 the
   town of Uttarkashi. Reports said at least three people died - more are
   missing.
  
   Another 40 people are unaccounted for in Uttarakhand. Casualty figures
 are
   expected to rise.
  
   http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-22936533
  
  
  
  
  
 

  



[FairfieldLife] Re: Getting the Metadata

2013-06-18 Thread Duveyoung
I heard that there are over one million people with the security clearance 
level and the access to do what Snowden did (or something as potent.)

Get that?

One million people who can do the following:

1.  Intercept the emails of CEOs etc. as a major merger is brokered -- no 
matter yes or no, money can be made if one knows which way the deal is going, 
and, then, hey, who can prove whether an NSA employee is lucky or is doing 
insider trading?

2.  Find out about neighbors, the kids who hang with the coder's kids and all 
about their parents and their neighbors and how much everyone earns and what 
the kids grades are and who has what STD and who's gotta get another abortion.

3.  Find out about anything anyone is doing and blackmail anyone.
 
4.  Use the massive architecture of the NSA system to launch every sort of 
attack upon anyone from any left field from which any person would least 
expect it.  Every manner of extortion is thus possible.  Pay up or have your 
life ruined.  

5.  Intercept any message and change it.

6.  Create a personal empire of servers that obey a rogue NSA employee's now 
and future commands even after leaving the NSA.

7.  Target people on the cutting edge of the frontiers, and invest with two or 
three notches higher ROIs as   new tech that is about to be announced is seen 
and known weeks or more ahead of the announcement -- get in on the ground floor 
or avoid a false-IPO turkey.

8.  Manipulate the markets with various e-ploys.  

AND ON AND ON AND ONthis is just what I could think of in ten 
minutesimagine what a true smarty pants could dream up to make some easy 
cash.  

And here's why the above screed has impact for me, personally:

I have worked with very good coders.  Sitting next them and watching the type 
code at speeds faster than I can type words.  Real and actual whiz kids who 
could do programming on the fly.

I probably know 30 guys who could be truly potent forces-unto-themselves if 
they decided to do evil and really exploit access they might have by abusing 
almost any large corporate system.  Just the customer information data-sets 
alone could be disastrously exploited via simple identity theft.  

So, nope.  One million people with the above powers? -- who can type code that 
fast? and it's code that does stuff to trillions of bits of information in 
seconds? -- nope, I say, nope.  

That's too much power in the hands of those who are probably pizza eating 
pencil necked geeks in windowless rooms whining about X-box and squeezing 
pimples.  
Nope.

Edg



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote:

 On 06/18/2013 07:56 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote:
  That metadata includes which version of the
  operating system, browser and Java software
  are being used on millions of devices around
  the world
 
  Bloomberg:
  http://tinyurl.com/mvaew4f
 
 
 
 Very standard stuff you get back from your web host.  It is primarily 
 used to determine how many customers you have on each OS. If you have a 
 problems with certain browsers. Also identify mobile devices and route 
 them to a mobile version of your site.  Not all that useful as far as 
 spying on anymore except of the IP and many of those are leased and 
 change for the user.  It can help is someone is having problems 
 downloading or if some jerk is trying to do a DOS attack on your site.
 
 The bad stuff is routing the Internet through places like the NSA where 
 they can collect your emails and look at them if they feel they need 
 to.  Through a Scanner Darkly was a fairly good movie based on a 
 Philip K Dick story about a surveillance society.  It's possible bored 
 workers at the NSA scan for hot emails to share amongst themselves.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Patanjali's Sutra Relating to the Navel Chakra

2013-06-18 Thread John
Obba,

Oprah has Rahu in her third house according to the jyotish chart that's shown 
in the linked website.  The site has a very detailed analysis of her chart.  
I've just added a few observations that the jyotishi may have missed.

What's your problem?



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@... wrote:

 LOL. Oprah, did you hear that? Your chart looks powerful. Good to tell 
 someone this, with Rahu in their first house in a mar ruled sign!  lol
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4m37JkkGjAY
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote:
 
  Share,
  
  Oprah's natal chart looks powerful.  IMO, the exalted Saturn in the 12th 
  house is the planet that's giving her much success and money.  In the 
  Brighu Nandi Nadi technique, Saturn is the significator for work and 
  career.  In her chart, Jupiter is also having a bhava drishti (aspect) to 
  Saturn.  Thus, her work success is multiplied many folds.
  
  Since her 12th house is strong, she will do well in philanthropy and 
  meditation.  If she stays with the TMO, she can easily be a Siddha and 
  perhaps be one of the Rajahs in the organization.
  
  
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote:
  
   John, that is fascinating about the stones and the healing sounds. Of 
   course everything is vibration so it makes sense to me that anything can 
   be used to heal. If one has the beneficial knowledge. I remember once in 
   DC a reporter asked Dr. Triguna about using light for healing and he 
   replied that it was a very powerful form of healing, especially using 
   light via gems.
   
   I just received a newsletter from jyotishi Sam Geppi talking about the 
   Moon's situation this coming week. I was glad to hear that the Saturn 
   Rahu conjunction is receiving help from Jupiter. But then the Moon
will be debilitated plus getting an aspect from Mars. Glad I had a Mars 
   puja recently.
   
   
   Here's what a friend sent about our drekkanas.  Our lagnas are 1 degree 
   apart and our Moons are in the same nakshatra!
   The 1st drekkana Libra ascending suggests a
 courteous, affable, kind and affectionate disposition.
 The fate is mostly in the hands of others, as there is
 little ability to mould or alter circumstances. The
 native is controlled principally by feeling and
 intuition, more so than reason. He is keen of
 observation, fond of company, and generally very
 artistic, refined and truly sympathetic. There is not
 much energy or incentive to action, and consequently
 life tends to run in grooves as the native is prone to
 lean on others for support. 
   
   He also send me a chart I've been wanting to see, Oprah's!
   
   29 January 1954 at 04:30am CST
   She has Rahu in the 1st. Conjunct Chiron. Venus
 combust with Uranus and Ketu in the 7th.
   Loose grand trine of Merc, Jupiter and Neptune.
   
   Jyotish:
   http://www.barbarapijan.com/bpa/Commerce/commerce28_Oprah_Winfrey.htm
   
   
   
From: John jr_esq@
   To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
   Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 11:34 AM
   Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Patanjali's Sutra Relating to the Navel 
   Chakra

   
   
     
   Share,
   
   There's jyotish literature that splits the body in three ways depending 
   on the drekkana (10 degrees) that one is born in.  For example, if you 
   were born with the lagna on the first drekkana, then the rashi chart 
   would show the head to the shoulder of the individual.
   
   The other two drekkanas would refer to the torso and the lower parts of 
   the body.  If you have a medical background, you can do some  fascinating 
   research on this subject.  IMO, it's possible to pinpoint the root of the 
   disease at the cellular level and even the DNA level just by using the 
   rashi chart and the various varga charts.
   
   Theoretically, one can see the medical issues of a person before it 
   starts.  But the fruit of the knowledge is to know the cures for the 
   various diseases.  In the Vedic culture, the cure lies in the ayurvedic 
   herbs and mantras.
   
   A few months ago, I saw a video about the Egyptian culture and the 
   pyramids.  One traditional keeper of the knowledge stated that the 
   ancient Egyptians cured people by sounds.  He showed some huge granite 
   stones that were carved like dishes.  He believed that these stones were 
   used for treating people, while lying on the stone, with sounds.  He did 
   not know the details of how the stones were able to do this.
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote:
   
John, this is fascinating about the left and right brains and upper and 
lower charts. Whoops, my secret is out. I still prefer 

[FairfieldLife] Re: the marshy effect

2013-06-18 Thread Richard J. Williams


Sounds like your average university. What did you want 
Bevan to do - give you an honorary degree? LoL!

mjackson74:
 I am still innocent enough to be willing to believe that something one does 
 on the inside can effect what happens on the outside.
 
 But I am not willing to believe that group practice of TM Sidhi program has 
 any of the effects the TMO claims it does. The so-called evidence is all 
 flawed and ridiculous. Maybe I would be more willing to believe if I had not 
 lived at MIU for 2 years. 
 
 
 At MIU as I did program in the Dome, I watched the administration and 
 sometimes the faculty misuse and abuse staff , students, and town employees. 
 I watched people of all faiths, colors and nationalities come together in the 
 Domes and then go to the dining hall where the foreign students would often 
 sit disparaging and making fun of the Americans. 
 
 
 I watched the governors and executive governors and a few ministers lord it 
 over everyone that was beneath them in the Movement hierarchy. I watched Big 
 Bopper Bevan and Little Johnnie Hagelin make all kinds of claims about the 
 great effects we were having in the world consciousness, meanwhile a town 
 person was coming into the women's dorm and exposing himself to the ladies 
 while the inept security guys (headed up by that ass James Bedinger) bungle 
 around like the keystone cops while this guy repeatedly broke into the dorm 
 and terrified the women.
 
 I heard about the grand effects the sidhas and governors were having in the 
 atmosphere and watched all the dedicated sidhas slipping, sliding and busting 
 their asses on the ice deposited by a big ol' ice storm all over Fairfield. 
 
 
 I heard all about the marshy effect while watching life go on as usual in 
 Faifield and Jefferson County with robberies, fraud, accidents, sickness, 
 murders and so on. So don't tell me there is any such thing as the marshy 
 effect. I know from observation there is no such thing.





[FairfieldLife] What Maharishi did NOT say ...

2013-06-18 Thread emptybill
Since the 14th Century, (i.e. with Shankaracharya Vidyaranya), the
Indian understanding of Advaita has has gradually degraded until Yogic
advaita has become the norm.  It manifested in the idea that
transcendence or nirvikalpa-samaadhi was the experiential requirement
for brahma-jñana (knowledge of brahmâtman).

This notion is directly adverse to Adi Shankara's written declarations
about liberation:
Upadesasahasri

Shankara did not extol yogic nirvikalpa-samaadhi (non-conceptual
absorption or transcendence). Rather, speaking from the understanding
that the Self (Atman) is already nirvikalpa by nature, he firmly
contrasts the true nature of the Self and the mind:

As I have no restlessness (viksepa) I have hence no absorption
(samadhi). Restlessness or absorption belong to the mind which is
changeable.



A similar view is expressed in 13.17:



How can samadhi, non-samadhi or anything else which is to be done belong
to me? For having meditated and known me, they realize that they have
completed [all] that needed to be done.



and 14.35:



I have never seen non-samadhi, nor anything else [needing] to be
purified, belonging to me who am changeless, the pure Brahman, free from
evil.



  In 15.14 Sankara presents a critique of meditation as an essentially
dualistically structured activity:



One [comes] to consist of that upon which one fixes one's mind, if
one is different from [it]. But, there is no action in the Self through
which to become the Self. [It] does not depend upon [anything else] for
being the Self, since if [it] depended upon [anything else], it would
not be the Self.



Furthermore, in 16.39-40, Sankara implicitly criticizes the Sankhya-Yoga
view that liberation is dissociation from the association of purusa and
prakrti, when he says:

It is not at all reasonable that liberation is either a connection [with
Brahman] or a dissociation [from prakrti]. For an association is
non-eternal and the same is true for dissociation also. One's own
nature is never lost.

As is evident in his writings, Sankara implicitly rejects both the
emancipation of yoga, namely, that liberation has to be accomplished
through the real dissociation of the purusa from prakrti, and the yogic
pursuit towards that end, -  that is, the achievement of nirvikalpa or
asamprajata-samadhi (transcendence).




Read it and weep.







[FairfieldLife] Re: Getting the Metadata

2013-06-18 Thread Richard J. Williams


Bhairitu:
 Very standard stuff you get back from your web host.

From what I've read, that's how they got David Petraeus, 
following his metadata and then by reading his email.

The FBI, using electronic metadata that pinpointed the 
times, places and IP addresses, identified Paula Broadwell 
as the source...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petraeus_scandal

  That metadata includes which version of the
  operating system, browser and Java software
  are being used on millions of devices around
  the world
 
  Bloomberg:
  http://tinyurl.com/mvaew4f




[FairfieldLife] Re: Getting the Metadata

2013-06-18 Thread Richard J. Williams


Duveyoung:
 I heard that there are over one million people with 
 the security clearance level and the access to do 
 what Snowden did (or something as potent...
 
 Get that?
 
Yeah, I get that it kind of puts us on the same path.

You voted for a guy that got elected president by 
telling us that what is happening now was never going 
to happen when he was president. Go figure.

This is a guy who got elected telling us in 2007, 
2008 that what's going on now was going on then. Bush 
was doing this, identical stuff, that's what they're 
trying to tell us, even now...

http://tinyurl.com/kkkwge6

  On 06/18/2013 07:56 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote:
   That metadata includes which version of the
   operating system, browser and Java software
   are being used on millions of devices around
   the world
  
   Bloomberg:
   http://tinyurl.com/mvaew4f




Re: [FairfieldLife] What Maharishi did NOT say ...

2013-06-18 Thread Michael Jackson
that means that meditation like what marshy taught was essentially a 
meaningless pursuit.





 From: emptybill emptyb...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 9:45 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] What Maharishi did NOT say ...
 


  
Since the 14th Century, (i.e. with Shankaracharya Vidyaranya), the Indian 
understanding of Advaita has has gradually degraded until Yogic advaita has 
become the norm.  It manifested in the idea that transcendence or 
nirvikalpa-samaadhi was the experiential requirement for brahma-jñana 
(knowledge of brahmâtman).

This notion is directly adverse to Adi Shankara's written declarations about 
liberation: 
Upadesasahasri
Shankara did not
extol yogic nirvikalpa-samaadhi (non-conceptual absorption or transcendence).
Rather, speaking from the understanding that the Self (Atman) is already
nirvikalpa by nature, he firmly contrasts the true nature of the Self and the
mind: 
As
I have no restlessness (viksepa)
I have hence no absorption (samadhi). Restlessness or absorption belong to the
mind which is changeable.
 
A similar view
is expressed in 13.17:
 
How
can samadhi, non-samadhi or anything else which is to be done belong to me? For
having meditated and known me, they realize that they have completed [all] that
needed to be done. 
 
and 14.35:
 
I
have never seen non-samadhi, nor anything else [needing] to be purified, 
belonging
to me who am changeless, the pure Brahman, free from evil. 
 
 In 15.14 Sankara presents a critique of
meditation as an essentially dualistically structured activity:
 
One
[comes] to consist of that upon which one fixes one's mind, if one is different
from [it]. But, there is no action in the Self through which to become the
Self. [It] does not depend upon [anything else] for being the Self, since if
[it] depended upon [anything else], it would not be the Self.  
 
Furthermore,
in 16.39-40, Sankara implicitly criticizes the Sankhya-Yoga view that
liberation is dissociation from the association of purusa and prakrti, when he
says:
It
is not at all reasonable that liberation is either a connection [with Brahman]
or a dissociation [from prakrti]. For an association is non-eternal and the
same is true for dissociation also. One's own nature is never lost.
As is
evident in his writings, Sankara implicitly rejects both the emancipation of
yoga, namely, that liberation has to be accomplished through the real
dissociation of the purusa from prakrti, and the yogic pursuit towards that
end, -  that is, the achievement of
nirvikalpa or asamprajata-samadhi (transcendence).

Read it and weep. 




 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Getting the Metadata

2013-06-18 Thread Bhairitu
On 06/18/2013 05:47 PM, Duveyoung wrote:
 I heard that there are over one million people with the security clearance 
 level and the access to do what Snowden did (or something as potent.)

 Get that?

 One million people who can do the following:

 1.  Intercept the emails of CEOs etc. as a major merger is brokered -- no 
 matter yes or no, money can be made if one knows which way the deal is going, 
 and, then, hey, who can prove whether an NSA employee is lucky or is doing 
 insider trading?

 2.  Find out about neighbors, the kids who hang with the coder's kids and all 
 about their parents and their neighbors and how much everyone earns and what 
 the kids grades are and who has what STD and who's gotta get another abortion.

 3.  Find out about anything anyone is doing and blackmail anyone.
   
 4.  Use the massive architecture of the NSA system to launch every sort of 
 attack upon anyone from any left field from which any person would least 
 expect it.  Every manner of extortion is thus possible.  Pay up or have your 
 life ruined.

 5.  Intercept any message and change it.

 6.  Create a personal empire of servers that obey a rogue NSA employee's 
 now and future commands even after leaving the NSA.

 7.  Target people on the cutting edge of the frontiers, and invest with two 
 or three notches higher ROIs as   new tech that is about to be announced is 
 seen and known weeks or more ahead of the announcement -- get in on the 
 ground floor or avoid a false-IPO turkey.

 8.  Manipulate the markets with various e-ploys.

 AND ON AND ON AND ONthis is just what I could think of in ten 
 minutesimagine what a true smarty pants could dream up to make some easy 
 cash.

 And here's why the above screed has impact for me, personally:

 I have worked with very good coders.  Sitting next them and watching the type 
 code at speeds faster than I can type words.  Real and actual whiz kids who 
 could do programming on the fly.

And probably shitty and buggy code too but they grew up with computers 
and feel they own the technology.  Sort of a joke.  I was writing code 
before some of these were even born.  Not only is their code shitty and 
buggy but also one-dimensional.  They're answer is hey, it works.  
Just look at the bugs we stumble across using Yahoo which BTW, seems to 
have solved the problem of losing my local news and weather settings 
without me needing  to do anything.  But who knows if they'll turn 
around and break it again.

And then they're Google, a haven for the young and inexperienced and 
there it really shows and irritates a lot of Android developers.  I call 
the place a lemonade stand.


 I probably know 30 guys who could be truly potent forces-unto-themselves if 
 they decided to do evil and really exploit access they might have by 
 abusing almost any large corporate system.  Just the customer information 
 data-sets alone could be disastrously exploited via simple identity theft.

Back in the day I was amazed at how apolitical so many tech folks were.  
And if they started to get political took a fancy to libertarianism. 
Ugh.  A friend thinks his son wouldn't have a problem with the world 
being run entirely by corporations.  Ugh two.


 So, nope.  One million people with the above powers? -- who can type code 
 that fast? and it's code that does stuff to trillions of bits of 
 information in seconds? -- nope, I say, nope.

Some kid wrote a Firefox plugin which got hyped as a way to identify an 
NSA compromised site.  Curious, I downloaded his code and all it did was 
a take a short list of the known sites such as Google, Facebook, Yahoo, 
etc and played a track from the Pink Floyd Darkside of the Moon album.  
I would think most people might be able to remember that short list and 
not need some plugin to remind them.

I once had a security clearance.  It was mainly so I could work weekends 
in the Federal Office Building.  I was doing data  entry but wouldn't 
have had a clue about getting into anything since I had yet to learn 
computer programming.



 That's too much power in the hands of those who are probably pizza eating 
 pencil necked geeks in windowless rooms whining about X-box and squeezing 
 pimples.
 Nope.

 Edg



 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote:
 On 06/18/2013 07:56 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote:
 That metadata includes which version of the
 operating system, browser and Java software
 are being used on millions of devices around
 the world

 Bloomberg:
 http://tinyurl.com/mvaew4f


 Very standard stuff you get back from your web host.  It is primarily
 used to determine how many customers you have on each OS. If you have a
 problems with certain browsers. Also identify mobile devices and route
 them to a mobile version of your site.  Not all that useful as far as
 spying on anymore except of the IP and many of those are leased and
 change for the user.  It can help is someone is having problems
 downloading or if 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Judy Stein as prison groupie

2013-06-18 Thread emptybill
Sorry for your opaque enthusiasm for Sachertorte.

Perhaps your time would be better spent preparing the ultimate dessert:
the pastry named after the patron saint of bakers - Saint Honoratis
cream cake.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann  wrote:



 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 no_reply@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann  wrote:
  
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@
wrote:

 That's one way of looking at the situation. There
 are others.
   
And here's one of them. I present it just *as* a theory,
and as opinion. Unlike Judy, who tends to present *her*
opinions and theories as if they were Absolute Fact,
and the disputing of them a crime. :-)
   
It struck me this morning that what Judy reminds me
of with regard to her ongoing defense of Robin
are those women who develop crushes on men confined
to prison for life.
   
Such women exist. They develop a strange fascination
with a serial killer or some other lifer they've
never met, and bombard them with letters, seeking to
be their pen pals or lovers from afar or whatever
they imagine themselves to *be* to these men. In some
cases, these women have actually MARRIED the prisoners,
even though they'll never spend a night together.
   
My theory is that there's a bit of that in Judy Stein
and her obsession with Robin. He's SAFE to obsess on,
off there in the prison-of-his-own-making, having
cut *himself* off from further communication. So she
fawns and gushes over him from afar, trying to butter
him up and hoping beyond hope that someday he'll
come back to FFL and appreciate her for becoming
what he was never able to achieve in real life -- a
totally devoted cult follower.
   
One wonders whether she imagines some odd *romance*
going on between her and Robin, one that has been
somehow frustrated by evil people like Curtis and
Steve and myself getting in the way of their True
Love.
   
Altogether fairly odd behavior for a woman he never
found interesting enough to have any long conversation
with while he was actually around. Real in-her-head
stalker fantasy stuff.
   
It's just a theory. But run it through your internal
processors and see if it doesn't describe her behavior
pretty well. And if it doesn't explain it for you,
come up with your own theory.
   
But I warn you...if your Theory Of Judy Stein And
Why She Does The Things She Does conflicts with her
fantasy view of who she is and why *she* thinks she
does what she does, you'll wind up on her Enemies
List. And she tends to obsess on her perceived
enemies the same way she tends to obsess on those
she has fantasy romantic relationships with in
her head.  :-)

Just in case you were hoping for some minion-type
   response in rebuttal for your obvious button pushing routine I
have
   included a wonderful recipe below. Try it, you won't be
   disappointed.Sachertorte
   Epicurious  | November 2004
  
   by Rick Rodgers
  
   Kaffeehaus: The Best Desserts from the Classic Cafés of Vienna,
   Budapest, and Prague
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   photo by Epicurious
  
   * recipe
  
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   * video
  
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   ingredientsTorte:
   * 4 1/2 ounces high-quality bittersweet chocolate, finely
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   * 9 tablespoons (1 stick plus 1 tablespoon) unsalted butter,
at cool
   room temperature
   * 1 cup confectioners' sugar
   * 6 large eggs, separated, at room temperature
   * 1 teaspoon vanilla extract
   * 1/2 cup granulated sugar
   * 1 cup all-purpose flour (spoon gently into cup and level
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   Assembly:
   * 1 cup Apricot Glaze
  
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   1. To make the torte: Position a rack in the center of the oven
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   to 400°F. Lightly butter a 9-inch springform pan and line the
bottom
   with a 

[FairfieldLife] Re: What Maharishi did NOT say ...

2013-06-18 Thread Richard J. Williams


emptybill:
 Since the 14th Century, (i.e. with Shankaracharya 
 Vidyaranya), the Indian understanding of Advaita has 
 has gradually degraded until Yogic advaita has become 
 the norm... 

For most TMers it's enough to know that the Shankaracharya 
Sanyasins have taken up the Sri Vidya tradtition and they 
all worship the Sri Yantra of Tripurasundari. The Adwaita 
that was extolled by the Adi is just pseudo-Buddhism, for 
the Brahamin caste in the eighth century. 

We don't know why the Shankaracharyas adopted the Sri 
Vidya, but we do know it came from Kashmere Tantrism. So,
far from being degraded, they discovered tantric monism,
which is far superior than believing the world is an
illusion, not real - pure Buddhism.

Kashmere Saivism is based on the Siva Sutra, the purpose 
of which is to preserve for man the principles of Monism 
in the literature called the Tantras. 

According to Theos Bernard, when studied in detail, 
Kasmere Saivism provides the most complete analysis of 
Nature yet devised by any system of Indian philosophy. 

However, human logic can never construct an unassailable 
Monism; final proof can be had only by the experience of 
Samadhi, attained through mantra meditation. That's why
all the Sri Vidya adherents meditate on the bija of 
Saraswati at least twice a day.

Kashmere Saivism accepts the fundamental premise that pure 
consciousness is the substance of the universe. However, 
it differs from the Samkhya and Vedanta systems in its 
interpretation of the three basic problems:

1) What is the nature of the ultimate reality; 
2) What is the cause of its first movement; and 
3) What is the nature of its manifest form?

From 'Centering', a translation by Paul Reps and Swami 
Laksmanjoo in Zen Flesh, Zen Bones:

Intone a sound audibly, then less and less audible as 
feeling deepens into this silent harmony. 

'Vijñânabhairava Tantra'
http://tinyurl.com/ykjog56

You can view a photo of Marshy and Laksmanjoo here:
http://www.rwilliams.us/archives/images/lakman01.jpg

Works cited:

'Foundations of Hindu Philosophy'
by Theos Bernard, Ph.D.
Author of 'Heaven Lies Within Us', 'Penthouse of the Gods', 
'Hatha Yoga', etc., etc.
Philosophical Library, 1947
pp. 129-130

Self-rea;ozation in Kashmere Shaivism
The oral teachings of Swami Laksmanjoo.
By John Hughes
Foreward by John Hughes
SUNY Press, 1994



[FairfieldLife] Re: Patanjali's Sutra Relating to the Navel Chakra

2013-06-18 Thread obbajeeba
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/347623
 He also send me a chart I've been wanting to see, Oprah's!

29 January 1954 at 04:30am CST
 She has Rahu in the 1st. Conjunct Chiron. Venus
 combust with Uranus and Ketu in the 7th.
 Loose grand trine of Merc, Jupiter and Neptune.

John,

According to the information from the above quote, was where I read the 1st 
house Rahu. I am adding what I looked at only from what was written in the 
thread. Also as you have, I added a bit of observation that the Jyotishi's 
sharing the information may have overlooked with what was said here on this 
message thread cut and pasted above.
 Wishing Oprah a blessed life should not be a problem, John?
I did make the mistake and typed mar, meaning Mars. :)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote:

 Obba,
 
 Oprah has Rahu in her third house according to the jyotish chart that's shown 
 in the linked website.  The site has a very detailed analysis of her chart.  
 I've just added a few observations that the jyotishi may have missed.
 
 What's your problem?
 
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@ wrote:
 
  LOL. Oprah, did you hear that? Your chart looks powerful. Good to tell 
  someone this, with Rahu in their first house in a mar ruled sign!  lol
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4m37JkkGjAY
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote:
  
   Share,
   
   Oprah's natal chart looks powerful.  IMO, the exalted Saturn in the 12th 
   house is the planet that's giving her much success and money.  In the 
   Brighu Nandi Nadi technique, Saturn is the significator for work and 
   career.  In her chart, Jupiter is also having a bhava drishti (aspect) to 
   Saturn.  Thus, her work success is multiplied many folds.
   
   Since her 12th house is strong, she will do well in philanthropy and 
   meditation.  If she stays with the TMO, she can easily be a Siddha and 
   perhaps be one of the Rajahs in the organization.
   
   
   
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote:
   
John, that is fascinating about the stones and the healing sounds. Of 
course everything is vibration so it makes sense to me that anything 
can be used to heal. If one has the beneficial knowledge. I remember 
once in DC a reporter asked Dr. Triguna about using light for healing 
and he replied that it was a very powerful form of healing, especially 
using light via gems.

I just received a newsletter from jyotishi Sam Geppi talking about the 
Moon's situation this coming week. I was glad to hear that the Saturn 
Rahu conjunction is receiving help from Jupiter. But then the Moon
 will be debilitated plus getting an aspect from Mars. Glad I had a 
Mars puja recently.


Here's what a friend sent about our drekkanas.  Our lagnas are 1 
degree apart and our Moons are in the same nakshatra!
The 1st drekkana Libra ascending suggests a
  courteous, affable, kind and affectionate disposition.
  The fate is mostly in the hands of others, as there is
  little ability to mould or alter circumstances. The
  native is controlled principally by feeling and
  intuition, more so than reason. He is keen of
  observation, fond of company, and generally very
  artistic, refined and truly sympathetic. There is not
  much energy or incentive to action, and consequently
  life tends to run in grooves as the native is prone to
  lean on others for support. 

He also send me a chart I've been wanting to see, Oprah's!

29 January 1954 at 04:30am CST
She has Rahu in the 1st. Conjunct Chiron. Venus
  combust with Uranus and Ketu in the 7th.
Loose grand trine of Merc, Jupiter and Neptune.

Jyotish:
http://www.barbarapijan.com/bpa/Commerce/commerce28_Oprah_Winfrey.htm



 From: John jr_esq@
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 11:34 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Patanjali's Sutra Relating to the Navel 
Chakra
 


  
Share,

There's jyotish literature that splits the body in three ways depending 
on the drekkana (10 degrees) that one is born in.  For example, if you 
were born with the lagna on the first drekkana, then the rashi chart 
would show the head to the shoulder of the individual.

The other two drekkanas would refer to the torso and the lower parts of 
the body.  If you have a medical background, you can do some  
fascinating research on this subject.  IMO, it's possible to pinpoint 
the root of the disease at the cellular level and even the DNA level 
just by using the rashi chart and the various 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Repealing TM's Anti-Saint Policies

2013-06-18 Thread nablusoss1008


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:

 
 The large threat here to the work of the Meissner Effect in the Domes is not 
 saints but the administrative *prohibition* around sitting with them. That TM 
 anti-saint policy has made hypocrites of everyone, even of Guru Dev who 
 consuls people specifically to seek the company of saints, mahatmas and wise 
 people.  It is time to repeal the TM Anti-saint policies.  Just git rid of 
 those gnarly old TM sentiments and policy and just stop using it as 
 punishment to create fugitive meditators. That policy has been the ruination 
 of our Dome numbers here the way it has worked on the community.  For the 
 affect that there could have been had all these years had there been a 
 properly numbered Meissner Effect except for the enforcement of the TM 
 anti-saint policies has been a crime against humanity. 

Buck please have a checking 



[FairfieldLife] Re: What Maharishi did NOT say ...

2013-06-18 Thread emptybill
Shankara did NOT say such a thing.

In many places he discusses the benefits of yogic meditation. However,
the benefits according to Shankara are purification of the heart
rather than either union with brahman or freedom from bondage to
prakriti.

The purpose of the post was to examine the real but unstated differences
between the recognition/practice found in Yoga and Vedanta rather than
a polemic against TM.





--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:

 that means that meditation like what marshy taught was essentially a
meaningless pursuit.




 
  From: emptybill emptybill@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 9:45 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] What Maharishi did NOT say ...



 Â
 Since the 14th Century, (i.e. with Shankaracharya Vidyaranya), the
Indian understanding of Advaita has has gradually degraded until Yogic
advaita has become the norm.  It manifested in the idea that
transcendence or nirvikalpa-samaadhi was the experiential requirement
for brahma-jñana (knowledge of brahmâtman).

 This notion is directly adverse to Adi Shankara's written declarations
about liberation:
 Upadesasahasri
 Shankara did not
 extol yogic nirvikalpa-samaadhi (non-conceptual absorption or
transcendence).
 Rather, speaking from the understanding that the Self (Atman) is
already
 nirvikalpa by nature, he firmly contrasts the true nature of the Self
and the
 mind:
 As
 I have no restlessness (viksepa)
 I have hence no absorption (samadhi). Restlessness or absorption
belong to the
 mind which is changeable.
 Â
 A similar view
 is expressed in 13.17:
 Â
 How
 can samadhi, non-samadhi or anything else which is to be done belong
to me? For
 having meditated and known me, they realize that they have completed
[all] that
 needed to be done.
 Â
 and 14.35:
 Â
 I
 have never seen non-samadhi, nor anything else [needing] to be
purified, belonging
 to me who am changeless, the pure Brahman, free from evil.
 Â
 Â In 15.14 Sankara presents a critique of
 meditation as an essentially dualistically structured activity:
 Â
 One
 [comes] to consist of that upon which one fixes one's mind, if one is
different
 from [it]. But, there is no action in the Self through which to become
the
 Self. [It] does not depend upon [anything else] for being the Self,
since if
 [it] depended upon [anything else], it would not be the Self. Â
 Â
 Furthermore,
 in 16.39-40, Sankara implicitly criticizes the Sankhya-Yoga view that
 liberation is dissociation from the association of purusa and prakrti,
when he
 says:
 It
 is not at all reasonable that liberation is either a connection [with
Brahman]
 or a dissociation [from prakrti]. For an association is non-eternal
and the
 same is true for dissociation also. One's own nature is never lost.
 As is
 evident in his writings, Sankara implicitly rejects both the
emancipation of
 yoga, namely, that liberation has to be accomplished through the real
 dissociation of the purusa from prakrti, and the yogic pursuit towards
that
 end, - Â that is, the achievement of
 nirvikalpa or asamprajata-samadhi (transcendence).

 Read it and weep.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Talk To Me

2013-06-18 Thread Richard J. Williams

 Less Politeness, More Forthrightness...

Just tell it like it is...



 


[FairfieldLife] Re: What Maharishi did NOT say ...

2013-06-18 Thread Richard J. Williams


  that means that meditation like what marshy taught 
  was essentially a meaningless pursuit.
  
emptybill:
 Shankara did NOT say such a thing.
 
 In many places he discusses the benefits of yogic 
 meditation. However, the benefits according to 
 Shankara are purification of the heart rather 
 than either union with brahman or freedom from 
 bondage to prakriti.
 
 The purpose of the post was to examine the real but 
 unstated differences between the recognition/practice 
 found in Yoga and Vedanta rather than a polemic against 
 TM.
 
So, what do we know about MMY's relation to Kashmere 
Shaivism? Kashmir Shaivism is absolute idealist monism - 
abhedha - non dualism, so that makes it similar to Kevala
Advaita. These terms describe the ultimate reality: Cit -
consciousness - the One reality. 

So, this sounds a lot like MMY and SCI, so it's no wonder 
MMY was attracted to Laksmanjoo. So, unlike Kevala Avaita 
which postulates maya, matter, as illusion, Kasmir Shaivism 
is founded on the notion that matter is not separated  from
consciousness, but is instead, *identical* to it. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kashmir_Shaivism 

Kashmere Shaivism was exported to South Asia as the Sri 
Vidya tantrism in Karnataka. So, we when we realize that 
Brahmanand Saraswati was a Sri Vidya adherent, it all 
starts to make sense.



[FairfieldLife] Re: What Maharishi did NOT say ...

2013-06-18 Thread emptybill
This is a perfect example of the uselessness of presenting ideas to the
self-stupified.

Your post demonstrates your utter inability (even unwillingness to try)
to comprehend the meaning.

BarryTwo musta been a rishi 'cause he clearly saw that you are unable to
demonstrate anything but prairie-dog enlightenment.

All glory to the prairie-dog.










--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams  wrote:



 emptybill:
  Since the 14th Century, (i.e. with Shankaracharya
  Vidyaranya), the Indian understanding of Advaita has
  has gradually degraded until Yogic advaita has become
  the norm...
 
 For most TMers it's enough to know that the Shankaracharya
 Sanyasins have taken up the Sri Vidya tradtition and they
 all worship the Sri Yantra of Tripurasundari. The Adwaita
 that was extolled by the Adi is just pseudo-Buddhism, for
 the Brahamin caste in the eighth century.

 We don't know why the Shankaracharyas adopted the Sri
 Vidya, but we do know it came from Kashmere Tantrism. So,
 far from being degraded, they discovered tantric monism,
 which is far superior than believing the world is an
 illusion, not real - pure Buddhism.

 Kashmere Saivism is based on the Siva Sutra, the purpose
 of which is to preserve for man the principles of Monism
 in the literature called the Tantras.

 According to Theos Bernard, when studied in detail,
 Kasmere Saivism provides the most complete analysis of
 Nature yet devised by any system of Indian philosophy.

 However, human logic can never construct an unassailable
 Monism; final proof can be had only by the experience of
 Samadhi, attained through mantra meditation. That's why
 all the Sri Vidya adherents meditate on the bija of
 Saraswati at least twice a day.

 Kashmere Saivism accepts the fundamental premise that pure
 consciousness is the substance of the universe. However,
 it differs from the Samkhya and Vedanta systems in its
 interpretation of the three basic problems:

 1) What is the nature of the ultimate reality;
 2) What is the cause of its first movement; and
 3) What is the nature of its manifest form?

 From 'Centering', a translation by Paul Reps and Swami
 Laksmanjoo in Zen Flesh, Zen Bones:

 Intone a sound audibly, then less and less audible as
 feeling deepens into this silent harmony.

 'Vijñânabhairava Tantra'
 http://tinyurl.com/ykjog56

 You can view a photo of Marshy and Laksmanjoo here:
 http://www.rwilliams.us/archives/images/lakman01.jpg

 Works cited:

 'Foundations of Hindu Philosophy'
 by Theos Bernard, Ph.D.
 Author of 'Heaven Lies Within Us', 'Penthouse of the Gods',
 'Hatha Yoga', etc., etc.
 Philosophical Library, 1947
 pp. 129-130

 Self-rea;ozation in Kashmere Shaivism
 The oral teachings of Swami Laksmanjoo.
 By John Hughes
 Foreward by John Hughes
 SUNY Press, 1994





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Repealing TM's Anti-Saint Policies

2013-06-18 Thread Michael Jackson
ha ha ha ha ha! Buck finally got a rise out of Nabby!!!





 From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 10:26 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Repealing TM's  Anti-Saint Policies
 


  


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:

 
 The large threat here to the work of the Meissner Effect in the Domes is not 
 saints but the administrative *prohibition* around sitting with them. That TM 
 anti-saint policy has made hypocrites of everyone, even of Guru Dev who 
 consuls people specifically to seek the company of saints, mahatmas and wise 
 people.  It is time to repeal the TM Anti-saint policies.  Just git rid of 
 those gnarly old TM sentiments and policy and just stop using it as 
 punishment to create fugitive meditators. That policy has been the ruination 
 of our Dome numbers here the way it has worked on the community.  For the 
 affect that there could have been had all these years had there been a 
 properly numbered Meissner Effect except for the enforcement of the TM 
 anti-saint policies has been a crime against humanity. 

Buck please have a checking 


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What Maharishi did NOT say ...

2013-06-18 Thread Michael Jackson
you best read it all again





 From: emptybill emptyb...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 10:30 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: What Maharishi did NOT say ...
 


  
Shankara did NOT say such a thing. 

In many places he discusses the benefits of yogic meditation. However, the 
benefits according to Shankara are purification of the heart rather than 
either union with brahman or freedom from bondage to prakriti.

The purpose of the post was to examine the real but unstated differences 
between the recognition/practice found in Yoga and Vedanta rather than a 
polemic against TM. 





--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:

that means that meditation like what marshy taught was essentially a 
meaningless pursuit.
 
 
 
 
 
  From: emptybill emptybill@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 9:45 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] What Maharishi did NOT say ...
 
 
 
   
 Since the 14th Century, (i.e. with Shankaracharya Vidyaranya), the Indian 
 understanding of Advaita has has gradually degraded until Yogic advaita has 
 become the norm.  It manifested in the idea that transcendence or 
 nirvikalpa-samaadhi was the experiential requirement for brahma-jñana 
 (knowledge of brahmâtman).
 
 This notion is directly adverse to Adi Shankara's written declarations about 
 liberation: 
 Upadesasahasri
 Shankara did not
 extol yogic nirvikalpa-samaadhi (non-conceptual absorption or transcendence).
 Rather, speaking from the understanding that the Self (Atman) is already
 nirvikalpa by nature, he firmly contrasts the true nature of the Self and the
 mind: 
 As
 I have no restlessness (viksepa)
 I have hence no absorption (samadhi). Restlessness or absorption belong to the
 mind which is changeable.
  
 A similar view
 is expressed in 13.17:
  
 How
 can samadhi, non-samadhi or anything else which is to be done belong to me? 
 For
 having meditated and known me, they realize that they have completed [all] 
 that
 needed to be done. 
  
 and 14.35:
  
 I
 have never seen non-samadhi, nor anything else [needing] to be purified, 
 belonging
 to me who am changeless, the pure Brahman, free from evil. 
  
  In 15.14 Sankara presents a critique of
 meditation as an essentially dualistically structured activity:
  
 One
 [comes] to consist of that upon which one fixes one's mind, if one is 
 different
 from [it]. But, there is no action in the Self through which to become the
 Self. [It] does not depend upon [anything else] for being the Self, since if
 [it] depended upon [anything else], it would not be the Self.  
  
 Furthermore,
 in 16.39-40, Sankara implicitly criticizes the Sankhya-Yoga view that
 liberation is dissociation from the association of purusa and prakrti, when he
 says:
 It
 is not at all reasonable that liberation is either a connection [with Brahman]
 or a dissociation [from prakrti]. For an association is non-eternal and the
 same is true for dissociation also. One's own nature is never lost.
 As is
 evident in his writings, Sankara implicitly rejects both the emancipation of
 yoga, namely, that liberation has to be accomplished through the real
 dissociation of the purusa from prakrti, and the yogic pursuit towards that
 end, -  that is, the achievement of
 nirvikalpa or asamprajata-samadhi (transcendence).
 
 Read it and weep.


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Patanjali's Sutra Relating to the Navel Chakra

2013-06-18 Thread Ann


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote:

 Share,
 
 Oprah's natal chart looks powerful.  IMO, the exalted Saturn in the 12th 
 house is the planet that's giving her much success and money.  In the Brighu 
 Nandi Nadi technique, Saturn is the significator for work and career.  In her 
 chart, Jupiter is also having a bhava drishti (aspect) to Saturn.  Thus, her 
 work success is multiplied many folds.
 
 Since her 12th house is strong, she will do well in philanthropy and 
 meditation.  If she stays with the TMO, she can easily be a Siddha and 
 perhaps be one of the Rajahs in the organization.

So, money with a willingness to give it away buys power, influence and 
position. Some things never change.
 
 
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote:
 
  John, that is fascinating about the stones and the healing sounds. Of 
  course everything is vibration so it makes sense to me that anything can be 
  used to heal. If one has the beneficial knowledge. I remember once in DC a 
  reporter asked Dr. Triguna about using light for healing and he replied 
  that it was a very powerful form of healing, especially using light via 
  gems.
  
  I just received a newsletter from jyotishi Sam Geppi talking about the 
  Moon's situation this coming week. I was glad to hear that the Saturn Rahu 
  conjunction is receiving help from Jupiter. But then the Moon
   will be debilitated plus getting an aspect from Mars. Glad I had a Mars 
  puja recently.
  
  
  Here's what a friend sent about our drekkanas.  Our lagnas are 1 degree 
  apart and our Moons are in the same nakshatra!
  The 1st drekkana Libra ascending suggests a
courteous, affable, kind and affectionate disposition.
The fate is mostly in the hands of others, as there is
little ability to mould or alter circumstances. The
native is controlled principally by feeling and
intuition, more so than reason. He is keen of
observation, fond of company, and generally very
artistic, refined and truly sympathetic. There is not
much energy or incentive to action, and consequently
life tends to run in grooves as the native is prone to
lean on others for support. 
  
  He also send me a chart I've been wanting to see, Oprah's!
  
  29 January 1954 at 04:30am CST
  She has Rahu in the 1st. Conjunct Chiron. Venus
combust with Uranus and Ketu in the 7th.
  Loose grand trine of Merc, Jupiter and Neptune.
  
  Jyotish:
  http://www.barbarapijan.com/bpa/Commerce/commerce28_Oprah_Winfrey.htm
  
  
  
   From: John jr_esq@
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 11:34 AM
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Patanjali's Sutra Relating to the Navel Chakra
   
  
  
    
  Share,
  
  There's jyotish literature that splits the body in three ways depending on 
  the drekkana (10 degrees) that one is born in.  For example, if you were 
  born with the lagna on the first drekkana, then the rashi chart would show 
  the head to the shoulder of the individual.
  
  The other two drekkanas would refer to the torso and the lower parts of the 
  body.  If you have a medical background, you can do some  fascinating 
  research on this subject.  IMO, it's possible to pinpoint the root of the 
  disease at the cellular level and even the DNA level just by using the 
  rashi chart and the various varga charts.
  
  Theoretically, one can see the medical issues of a person before it starts. 
   But the fruit of the knowledge is to know the cures for the various 
  diseases.  In the Vedic culture, the cure lies in the ayurvedic herbs and 
  mantras.
  
  A few months ago, I saw a video about the Egyptian culture and the 
  pyramids.  One traditional keeper of the knowledge stated that the ancient 
  Egyptians cured people by sounds.  He showed some huge granite stones that 
  were carved like dishes.  He believed that these stones were used for 
  treating people, while lying on the stone, with sounds.  He did not know 
  the details of how the stones were able to do this.
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote:
  
   John, this is fascinating about the left and right brains and upper and 
   lower charts. Whoops, my secret is out. I still prefer the Western 
   circular chart form to either of the jyotish chart forms. I prefer the 
   circular chart because it graphically shows both the ascendent as earth's 
   horizon and the chart as the face of a clock, which can be useful for 
   guessing about ascendents when the exact birth time is not known. For 
   example, cusp of first house is 6 am, cusp of 10th house is 12 noon, etc.
   
   
   Thank you for wish about my Dad. I sent him a fruit pie from Harry and 
   David.
   
   
   

[FairfieldLife] Re: Getting the Metadata

2013-06-18 Thread Richard J. Williams


Edg forgot one thing they can do: send all your data
to the IRS. How do you think the IRS got the info to
ask all those off-topic questions when people applied
for tax-exempt status?

They are monitoring all your email and calls, all your 
spending, all your travel, and recording every web 
search and everything you click on your computer screen, 
cell phone or iPad and video if you walk down the street. 

This is a problem that was coordinated in all likelihood 
right out of Washington headquarters and we're getting to 
proving it.

Associated Press:
http://tinyurl.com/jwp7oba

Bhairitu:
 And probably shitty and buggy code too but they grew 
 up with computers and feel they own the technology.  
 Sort of a joke. I was writing code before some of these 
 were even born.  Not only is their code shitty and
 buggy but also one-dimensional



[FairfieldLife] Re: What Maharishi did NOT say ...

2013-06-18 Thread emptybill
Sorry but you have only jumped to your own prepared conclusion.

Shankara wrote refutations of yoga as a vedic ultimate but accepted it
as a provisional practice to assist someone searching for ultimate
knowledge/practice.

You have a fight with the TMO. Thus everything you say is negative about
TM. The reality is more complex than your everything TM is wrong
agenda. It is quite boring to the folks here 'cause we have heard it all
before by people able to present more articulate and thoughtful
arguments than you present here.

You appear to want to spin Shankara's commentary until he seems to dance
with Michael J.

Dance if you wish.





--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:

 you best read it all again




 
  From: emptybill emptybill@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 10:30 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: What Maharishi did NOT say ...



 Â
 Shankara did NOT say such a thing.

 In many places he discusses the benefits of yogic meditation. However,
the benefits according to Shankara are purification of the heart
rather than either union with brahman or freedom from bondage to
prakriti.

 The purpose of the post was to examine the real but unstated
differences between the recognition/practice found in Yoga and Vedanta
rather than a polemic against TM.





 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
 
 that means that meditation like what marshy taught was essentially a
meaningless pursuit.
 
 
 
 
  
   From: emptybill emptybill@
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 9:45 PM
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] What Maharishi did NOT say ...
 
 
 
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  Since the 14th Century, (i.e. with Shankaracharya Vidyaranya), the
Indian understanding of Advaita has has gradually degraded until Yogic
advaita has become the norm.  It manifested in the idea that
transcendence or nirvikalpa-samaadhi was the experiential requirement
for brahma-jñana (knowledge of brahmâtman).
 
  This notion is directly adverse to Adi Shankara's written
declarations about liberation:
  Upadesasahasri
  Shankara did not
  extol yogic nirvikalpa-samaadhi (non-conceptual absorption or
transcendence).
  Rather, speaking from the understanding that the Self (Atman) is
already
  nirvikalpa by nature, he firmly contrasts the true nature of the
Self and the
  mind:
  As
  I have no restlessness (viksepa)
  I have hence no absorption (samadhi). Restlessness or absorption
belong to the
  mind which is changeable.
  ÂÂ
  A similar view
  is expressed in 13.17:
  ÂÂ
  How
  can samadhi, non-samadhi or anything else which is to be done belong
to me? For
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[all] that
  needed to be done.
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  and 14.35:
  ÂÂ
  I
  have never seen non-samadhi, nor anything else [needing] to be
purified, belonging
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  ÂÂ
   In 15.14 Sankara presents a critique of
  meditation as an essentially dualistically structured activity:
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  [comes] to consist of that upon which one fixes one's mind, if one
is different
  from [it]. But, there is no action in the Self through which to
become the
  Self. [It] does not depend upon [anything else] for being the Self,
since if
  [it] depended upon [anything else], it would not be the Self.
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  ÂÂ
  Furthermore,
  in 16.39-40, Sankara implicitly criticizes the Sankhya-Yoga view
that
  liberation is dissociation from the association of purusa and
prakrti, when he
  says:
  It
  is not at all reasonable that liberation is either a connection
[with Brahman]
  or a dissociation [from prakrti]. For an association is non-eternal
and the
  same is true for dissociation also. One's own nature is never lost.
  As is
  evident in his writings, Sankara implicitly rejects both the
emancipation of
  yoga, namely, that liberation has to be accomplished through the
real
  dissociation of the purusa from prakrti, and the yogic pursuit
towards that
  end, -  that is, the achievement of
  nirvikalpa or asamprajata-samadhi (transcendence).
 
  Read it and weep.
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Judy Stein as prison groupie

2013-06-18 Thread Ann


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@... wrote:

 Sorry for your opaque enthusiasm for Sachertorte.

I don't know what you mean by opaque enthusiasm. What I have is a 
whole-hearted, obvious, guaranteed transparent love of the stuff. Put on your 
spectacles and have a closer look. And remember, I don't believe in saints - 
patron or otherwise.
 
 Perhaps your time would be better spent preparing the ultimate dessert:
 the pastry named after the patron saint of bakers - Saint Honoratis
 cream cake.
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann  wrote:
 
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 no_reply@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann  wrote:
   
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@
 wrote:
 
  That's one way of looking at the situation. There
  are others.

 And here's one of them. I present it just *as* a theory,
 and as opinion. Unlike Judy, who tends to present *her*
 opinions and theories as if they were Absolute Fact,
 and the disputing of them a crime. :-)

 It struck me this morning that what Judy reminds me
 of with regard to her ongoing defense of Robin
 are those women who develop crushes on men confined
 to prison for life.

 Such women exist. They develop a strange fascination
 with a serial killer or some other lifer they've
 never met, and bombard them with letters, seeking to
 be their pen pals or lovers from afar or whatever
 they imagine themselves to *be* to these men. In some
 cases, these women have actually MARRIED the prisoners,
 even though they'll never spend a night together.

 My theory is that there's a bit of that in Judy Stein
 and her obsession with Robin. He's SAFE to obsess on,
 off there in the prison-of-his-own-making, having
 cut *himself* off from further communication. So she
 fawns and gushes over him from afar, trying to butter
 him up and hoping beyond hope that someday he'll
 come back to FFL and appreciate her for becoming
 what he was never able to achieve in real life -- a
 totally devoted cult follower.

 One wonders whether she imagines some odd *romance*
 going on between her and Robin, one that has been
 somehow frustrated by evil people like Curtis and
 Steve and myself getting in the way of their True
 Love.

 Altogether fairly odd behavior for a woman he never
 found interesting enough to have any long conversation
 with while he was actually around. Real in-her-head
 stalker fantasy stuff.

 It's just a theory. But run it through your internal
 processors and see if it doesn't describe her behavior
 pretty well. And if it doesn't explain it for you,
 come up with your own theory.

 But I warn you...if your Theory Of Judy Stein And
 Why She Does The Things She Does conflicts with her
 fantasy view of who she is and why *she* thinks she
 does what she does, you'll wind up on her Enemies
 List. And she tends to obsess on her perceived
 enemies the same way she tends to obsess on those
 she has fantasy romantic relationships with in
 her head.  :-)
 
 Just in case you were hoping for some minion-type
response in rebuttal for your obvious button pushing routine I
 have
included a wonderful recipe below. Try it, you won't be
disappointed.Sachertorte
Epicurious  | November 2004
   
by Rick Rodgers
   
Kaffeehaus: The Best Desserts from the Classic Cafés of Vienna,
Budapest, and Prague
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* 1 teaspoon vanilla extract
* 1/2 cup 

[FairfieldLife] Re: What Maharishi did NOT say ...

2013-06-18 Thread Ann


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote:

 you best read it all again

Personally, I think he needs a drink.
 
 
 
 
 
  From: emptybill emptybill@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 10:30 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: What Maharishi did NOT say ...
  
 
 
   
 Shankara did NOT say such a thing. 
 
 In many places he discusses the benefits of yogic meditation. However, the 
 benefits according to Shankara are purification of the heart rather than 
 either union with brahman or freedom from bondage to prakriti.
 
 The purpose of the post was to examine the real but unstated differences 
 between the recognition/practice found in Yoga and Vedanta rather than a 
 polemic against TM. 
 
 
 
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
 
 that means that meditation like what marshy taught was essentially a 
 meaningless pursuit.
  
  
  
  
  
   From: emptybill emptybill@
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 9:45 PM
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] What Maharishi did NOT say ...
  
  
  
    
  Since the 14th Century, (i.e. with Shankaracharya Vidyaranya), the Indian 
  understanding of Advaita has has gradually degraded until Yogic advaita 
  has become the norm.  It manifested in the idea that transcendence or 
  nirvikalpa-samaadhi was the experiential requirement for brahma-jñana 
  (knowledge of brahmâtman).
  
  This notion is directly adverse to Adi Shankara's written declarations 
  about liberation: 
  Upadesasahasri
  Shankara did not
  extol yogic nirvikalpa-samaadhi (non-conceptual absorption or 
  transcendence).
  Rather, speaking from the understanding that the Self (Atman) is already
  nirvikalpa by nature, he firmly contrasts the true nature of the Self and 
  the
  mind: 
  As
  I have no restlessness (viksepa)
  I have hence no absorption (samadhi). Restlessness or absorption belong to 
  the
  mind which is changeable.
   
  A similar view
  is expressed in 13.17:
   
  How
  can samadhi, non-samadhi or anything else which is to be done belong to me? 
  For
  having meditated and known me, they realize that they have completed [all] 
  that
  needed to be done. 
   
  and 14.35:
   
  I
  have never seen non-samadhi, nor anything else [needing] to be purified, 
  belonging
  to me who am changeless, the pure Brahman, free from evil. 
   
   In 15.14 Sankara presents a critique of
  meditation as an essentially dualistically structured activity:
   
  One
  [comes] to consist of that upon which one fixes one's mind, if one is 
  different
  from [it]. But, there is no action in the Self through which to become the
  Self. [It] does not depend upon [anything else] for being the Self, since if
  [it] depended upon [anything else], it would not be the Self.  
   
  Furthermore,
  in 16.39-40, Sankara implicitly criticizes the Sankhya-Yoga view that
  liberation is dissociation from the association of purusa and prakrti, when 
  he
  says:
  It
  is not at all reasonable that liberation is either a connection [with 
  Brahman]
  or a dissociation [from prakrti]. For an association is non-eternal and the
  same is true for dissociation also. One's own nature is never lost.
  As is
  evident in his writings, Sankara implicitly rejects both the emancipation of
  yoga, namely, that liberation has to be accomplished through the real
  dissociation of the purusa from prakrti, and the yogic pursuit towards that
  end, -  that is, the achievement of
  nirvikalpa or asamprajata-samadhi (transcendence).
  
  Read it and weep.
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Patanjali's Sutra Relating to the Navel Chakra

2013-06-18 Thread John
Ann,

IOW, she's lucky because of her exalted Saturn.  She's got so much money she 
can give it away.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@... wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote:
 
  Share,
  
  Oprah's natal chart looks powerful.  IMO, the exalted Saturn in the 12th 
  house is the planet that's giving her much success and money.  In the 
  Brighu Nandi Nadi technique, Saturn is the significator for work and 
  career.  In her chart, Jupiter is also having a bhava drishti (aspect) to 
  Saturn.  Thus, her work success is multiplied many folds.
  
  Since her 12th house is strong, she will do well in philanthropy and 
  meditation.  If she stays with the TMO, she can easily be a Siddha and 
  perhaps be one of the Rajahs in the organization.
 
 So, money with a willingness to give it away buys power, influence and 
 position. Some things never change.
  
  
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote:
  
   John, that is fascinating about the stones and the healing sounds. Of 
   course everything is vibration so it makes sense to me that anything can 
   be used to heal. If one has the beneficial knowledge. I remember once in 
   DC a reporter asked Dr. Triguna about using light for healing and he 
   replied that it was a very powerful form of healing, especially using 
   light via gems.
   
   I just received a newsletter from jyotishi Sam Geppi talking about the 
   Moon's situation this coming week. I was glad to hear that the Saturn 
   Rahu conjunction is receiving help from Jupiter. But then the Moon
will be debilitated plus getting an aspect from Mars. Glad I had a Mars 
   puja recently.
   
   
   Here's what a friend sent about our drekkanas.  Our lagnas are 1 degree 
   apart and our Moons are in the same nakshatra!
   The 1st drekkana Libra ascending suggests a
 courteous, affable, kind and affectionate disposition.
 The fate is mostly in the hands of others, as there is
 little ability to mould or alter circumstances. The
 native is controlled principally by feeling and
 intuition, more so than reason. He is keen of
 observation, fond of company, and generally very
 artistic, refined and truly sympathetic. There is not
 much energy or incentive to action, and consequently
 life tends to run in grooves as the native is prone to
 lean on others for support. 
   
   He also send me a chart I've been wanting to see, Oprah's!
   
   29 January 1954 at 04:30am CST
   She has Rahu in the 1st. Conjunct Chiron. Venus
 combust with Uranus and Ketu in the 7th.
   Loose grand trine of Merc, Jupiter and Neptune.
   
   Jyotish:
   http://www.barbarapijan.com/bpa/Commerce/commerce28_Oprah_Winfrey.htm
   
   
   
From: John jr_esq@
   To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
   Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 11:34 AM
   Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Patanjali's Sutra Relating to the Navel 
   Chakra

   
   
     
   Share,
   
   There's jyotish literature that splits the body in three ways depending 
   on the drekkana (10 degrees) that one is born in.  For example, if you 
   were born with the lagna on the first drekkana, then the rashi chart 
   would show the head to the shoulder of the individual.
   
   The other two drekkanas would refer to the torso and the lower parts of 
   the body.  If you have a medical background, you can do some  fascinating 
   research on this subject.  IMO, it's possible to pinpoint the root of the 
   disease at the cellular level and even the DNA level just by using the 
   rashi chart and the various varga charts.
   
   Theoretically, one can see the medical issues of a person before it 
   starts.  But the fruit of the knowledge is to know the cures for the 
   various diseases.  In the Vedic culture, the cure lies in the ayurvedic 
   herbs and mantras.
   
   A few months ago, I saw a video about the Egyptian culture and the 
   pyramids.  One traditional keeper of the knowledge stated that the 
   ancient Egyptians cured people by sounds.  He showed some huge granite 
   stones that were carved like dishes.  He believed that these stones were 
   used for treating people, while lying on the stone, with sounds.  He did 
   not know the details of how the stones were able to do this.
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote:
   
John, this is fascinating about the left and right brains and upper and 
lower charts. Whoops, my secret is out. I still prefer the Western 
circular chart form to either of the jyotish chart forms. I prefer the 
circular chart because it graphically shows both the ascendent as 
earth's horizon and the chart as the face of a clock, which can be 
 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Patanjali's Sutra Relating to the Navel Chakra

2013-06-18 Thread Ann


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote:

 Ann,
 
 IOW, she's lucky because of her exalted Saturn.  She's got so much money she 
 can give it away.

But if you give it away you become a Raja?! See, no other qualifications 
necessary; that's what I'm sayin'.
 
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote:
 
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote:
  
   Share,
   
   Oprah's natal chart looks powerful.  IMO, the exalted Saturn in the 12th 
   house is the planet that's giving her much success and money.  In the 
   Brighu Nandi Nadi technique, Saturn is the significator for work and 
   career.  In her chart, Jupiter is also having a bhava drishti (aspect) to 
   Saturn.  Thus, her work success is multiplied many folds.
   
   Since her 12th house is strong, she will do well in philanthropy and 
   meditation.  If she stays with the TMO, she can easily be a Siddha and 
   perhaps be one of the Rajahs in the organization.
  
  So, money with a willingness to give it away buys power, influence and 
  position. Some things never change.
   
   
   
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote:
   
John, that is fascinating about the stones and the healing sounds. Of 
course everything is vibration so it makes sense to me that anything 
can be used to heal. If one has the beneficial knowledge. I remember 
once in DC a reporter asked Dr. Triguna about using light for healing 
and he replied that it was a very powerful form of healing, especially 
using light via gems.

I just received a newsletter from jyotishi Sam Geppi talking about the 
Moon's situation this coming week. I was glad to hear that the Saturn 
Rahu conjunction is receiving help from Jupiter. But then the Moon
 will be debilitated plus getting an aspect from Mars. Glad I had a 
Mars puja recently.


Here's what a friend sent about our drekkanas.  Our lagnas are 1 
degree apart and our Moons are in the same nakshatra!
The 1st drekkana Libra ascending suggests a
  courteous, affable, kind and affectionate disposition.
  The fate is mostly in the hands of others, as there is
  little ability to mould or alter circumstances. The
  native is controlled principally by feeling and
  intuition, more so than reason. He is keen of
  observation, fond of company, and generally very
  artistic, refined and truly sympathetic. There is not
  much energy or incentive to action, and consequently
  life tends to run in grooves as the native is prone to
  lean on others for support. 

He also send me a chart I've been wanting to see, Oprah's!

29 January 1954 at 04:30am CST
She has Rahu in the 1st. Conjunct Chiron. Venus
  combust with Uranus and Ketu in the 7th.
Loose grand trine of Merc, Jupiter and Neptune.

Jyotish:
http://www.barbarapijan.com/bpa/Commerce/commerce28_Oprah_Winfrey.htm



 From: John jr_esq@
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 11:34 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Patanjali's Sutra Relating to the Navel 
Chakra
 


  
Share,

There's jyotish literature that splits the body in three ways depending 
on the drekkana (10 degrees) that one is born in.  For example, if you 
were born with the lagna on the first drekkana, then the rashi chart 
would show the head to the shoulder of the individual.

The other two drekkanas would refer to the torso and the lower parts of 
the body.  If you have a medical background, you can do some  
fascinating research on this subject.  IMO, it's possible to pinpoint 
the root of the disease at the cellular level and even the DNA level 
just by using the rashi chart and the various varga charts.

Theoretically, one can see the medical issues of a person before it 
starts.  But the fruit of the knowledge is to know the cures for the 
various diseases.  In the Vedic culture, the cure lies in the ayurvedic 
herbs and mantras.

A few months ago, I saw a video about the Egyptian culture and the 
pyramids.  One traditional keeper of the knowledge stated that the 
ancient Egyptians cured people by sounds.  He showed some huge granite 
stones that were carved like dishes.  He believed that these stones 
were used for treating people, while lying on the stone, with sounds.  
He did not know the details of how the stones were able to do this.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote:

 John, this is fascinating about the left and right brains and upper 
 and lower 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Uttarkashi Flash Flooded

2013-06-18 Thread doctordumbass
Just from the pictures, it looks like a very strenuous journey for anyone in 
their 60's, and I am really glad your Mom was spared the disaster! 

On another topic, I am curious what you experience in India, something 
commonplace, that you prefer there, or like just as much, that you don't get 
here in the US? 

For example, I remember in SE Asia, the diesel fumes, mixed with rotting mango, 
tobacco smoke, incense, vegetation, heat, humidity, and dust, or mud. The 
organic sensuousness of all that, feeling enveloped by the atmosphere, an 
extension of all the scents in the air, vs., the US being more industrial, more 
metallic, cleaner, but also more sterile, and more packaged. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote:

 Thanks Jim - my mom really enjoyed the beauty of the place but was super
 tired, had issues with her knees by the end of it. She's not real healthy
 for someone who's only 64 and the trip involved hardship - chopper rides,
 rides/treks on hand-held carriages for some of those remote spots. I had to
 arrange flight tickets so she flew back from Delhi to Hyderabad instead of
 the train ride.
 
 She was actually was planning a trip to Kailash  -
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kailash#Pilgrimage, but that didn't pan out.
 Anyway she has traveled so much in her life and she loves to travel -
 something I do as well.
 
 The flooding seems pretty serious - just read this article
 http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-news/Uttarakhand/Over-130-killed-in-North-India-rains-Kedarnath-town-in-Uttarakhand-ruined/Article1-1078410.aspx
 
 
 
 On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 3:01 PM, doctordumbass@... 
 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:
 
  **
 
 
  Very cool pictures. Kedarnath temple is striking, with the peaks right out
  the back door. Yamunotri reminds me of a little known Friendship Garden,
  right next to a river, carved between two peaks, on Maui.
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@
  wrote:
  
   There's the Ravi effect, my mom just got back from a trip there - before
   the floods started.
  
   A trip to Gangotri, Yamunotri, Badrinath  Kedarnath, her first -
   supposedly a cool thing Hindus should do in their lifetime. I'm fine with
   trips to the Sierra Nevadas and retreat back to the Pacific Ocean.
  
   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chota_Char_Dham
  
  
  
   On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 4:05 AM, Michael Jackson mjackson74@wrote:
  
**
 
   
   
and you still think there is such a thing as the Marshy Effect?
   
   
--
*From:* Buck dhamiltony2k5@
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Monday, June 17, 2013 9:52 PM
*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Uttarkashi Flash Flooded
 
   
   
Have our Brothers on Purusha been heard of since?
   
Floods and landslides have killed at least 19 people and destroyed
buildings after heavy rain in North India.
   
Fifteen people died in Uttarakhand state. Another four lost their
  lives in
Himachal Pradesh, officials say.
   
Footage showed a three-storey apartment building being washed away in
  the
town of Uttarkashi. Reports said at least three people died - more are
missing.
   
Another 40 people are unaccounted for in Uttarakhand. Casualty figures
  are
expected to rise.
   
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-22936533
   
   
   
   
   
  
 
   
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Getting the Metadata

2013-06-18 Thread doctordumbass
Hey Edg, You are conflating the issuing of a security clearance, with the 
access Snowden had. Not every security clearance is a carte blanche to the NSA 
databases. So, no way a million people have access to that. 

Also, just to get the lowest level of secret clearance, you need an FBI 
fingerprint check, they talk to your neighbors, check your work history, credit 
history, and personal background. It is amazingly thorough, and eliminates 
anyone with a criminal past. 

Hopefully that helps.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@... wrote:

 I heard that there are over one million people with the security clearance 
 level and the access to do what Snowden did (or something as potent.)
 
 Get that?
 
 One million people who can do the following:
 
 1.  Intercept the emails of CEOs etc. as a major merger is brokered -- no 
 matter yes or no, money can be made if one knows which way the deal is going, 
 and, then, hey, who can prove whether an NSA employee is lucky or is doing 
 insider trading?
 
 2.  Find out about neighbors, the kids who hang with the coder's kids and all 
 about their parents and their neighbors and how much everyone earns and what 
 the kids grades are and who has what STD and who's gotta get another abortion.
 
 3.  Find out about anything anyone is doing and blackmail anyone.
  
 4.  Use the massive architecture of the NSA system to launch every sort of 
 attack upon anyone from any left field from which any person would least 
 expect it.  Every manner of extortion is thus possible.  Pay up or have your 
 life ruined.  
 
 5.  Intercept any message and change it.
 
 6.  Create a personal empire of servers that obey a rogue NSA employee's 
 now and future commands even after leaving the NSA.
 
 7.  Target people on the cutting edge of the frontiers, and invest with two 
 or three notches higher ROIs as   new tech that is about to be announced is 
 seen and known weeks or more ahead of the announcement -- get in on the 
 ground floor or avoid a false-IPO turkey.
 
 8.  Manipulate the markets with various e-ploys.  
 
 AND ON AND ON AND ONthis is just what I could think of in ten 
 minutesimagine what a true smarty pants could dream up to make some easy 
 cash.  
 
 And here's why the above screed has impact for me, personally:
 
 I have worked with very good coders.  Sitting next them and watching the type 
 code at speeds faster than I can type words.  Real and actual whiz kids who 
 could do programming on the fly.
 
 I probably know 30 guys who could be truly potent forces-unto-themselves if 
 they decided to do evil and really exploit access they might have by 
 abusing almost any large corporate system.  Just the customer information 
 data-sets alone could be disastrously exploited via simple identity theft.  
 
 So, nope.  One million people with the above powers? -- who can type code 
 that fast? and it's code that does stuff to trillions of bits of 
 information in seconds? -- nope, I say, nope.  
 
 That's too much power in the hands of those who are probably pizza eating 
 pencil necked geeks in windowless rooms whining about X-box and squeezing 
 pimples.  
 Nope.
 
 Edg
 
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
 
  On 06/18/2013 07:56 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote:
   That metadata includes which version of the
   operating system, browser and Java software
   are being used on millions of devices around
   the world
  
   Bloomberg:
   http://tinyurl.com/mvaew4f
  
  
  
  Very standard stuff you get back from your web host.  It is primarily 
  used to determine how many customers you have on each OS. If you have a 
  problems with certain browsers. Also identify mobile devices and route 
  them to a mobile version of your site.  Not all that useful as far as 
  spying on anymore except of the IP and many of those are leased and 
  change for the user.  It can help is someone is having problems 
  downloading or if some jerk is trying to do a DOS attack on your site.
  
  The bad stuff is routing the Internet through places like the NSA where 
  they can collect your emails and look at them if they feel they need 
  to.  Through a Scanner Darkly was a fairly good movie based on a 
  Philip K Dick story about a surveillance society.  It's possible bored 
  workers at the NSA scan for hot emails to share amongst themselves.
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: What Maharishi did NOT say ...

2013-06-18 Thread seventhray27

you could say Shankara liked cookies, and MJ would have an aha
experience of some sort.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill wrote:

 Shankara did NOT say such a thing.

 In many places he discusses the benefits of yogic meditation. However,
 the benefits according to Shankara are purification of the heart
 rather than either union with brahman or freedom from bondage to
 prakriti.

 The purpose of the post was to examine the real but unstated
differences
 between the recognition/practice found in Yoga and Vedanta rather
than
 a polemic against TM.





 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote:
 
  that means that meditation like what marshy taught was essentially a
 meaningless pursuit.
 
 
 
 
  
  From: emptybill emptybill@
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 9:45 PM
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] What Maharishi did NOT say ...
 
 
 
  Â
  Since the 14th Century, (i.e. with Shankaracharya Vidyaranya), the
 Indian understanding of Advaita has has gradually degraded until
Yogic
 advaita has become the norm. It manifested in the idea that
 transcendence or nirvikalpa-samaadhi was the experiential
requirement
 for brahma-jñana (knowledge of brahmâtman).
 
  This notion is directly adverse to Adi Shankara's written
declarations
 about liberation:
  Upadesasahasri
  Shankara did not
  extol yogic nirvikalpa-samaadhi (non-conceptual absorption or
 transcendence).
  Rather, speaking from the understanding that the Self (Atman) is
 already
  nirvikalpa by nature, he firmly contrasts the true nature of the
Self
 and the
  mind:
  As
  I have no restlessness (viksepa)
  I have hence no absorption (samadhi). Restlessness or absorption
 belong to the
  mind which is changeable.
  Â
  A similar view
  is expressed in 13.17:
  Â
  How
  can samadhi, non-samadhi or anything else which is to be done belong
 to me? For
  having meditated and known me, they realize that they have completed
 [all] that
  needed to be done.
  Â
  and 14.35:
  Â
  I
  have never seen non-samadhi, nor anything else [needing] to be
 purified, belonging
  to me who am changeless, the pure Brahman, free from evil.
  Â
  Â In 15.14 Sankara presents a critique of
  meditation as an essentially dualistically structured activity:
  Â
  One
  [comes] to consist of that upon which one fixes one's mind, if one
is
 different
  from [it]. But, there is no action in the Self through which to
become
 the
  Self. [It] does not depend upon [anything else] for being the Self,
 since if
  [it] depended upon [anything else], it would not be the Self. Â
  Â
  Furthermore,
  in 16.39-40, Sankara implicitly criticizes the Sankhya-Yoga view
that
  liberation is dissociation from the association of purusa and
prakrti,
 when he
  says:
  It
  is not at all reasonable that liberation is either a connection
[with
 Brahman]
  or a dissociation [from prakrti]. For an association is non-eternal
 and the
  same is true for dissociation also. One's own nature is never lost.
  As is
  evident in his writings, Sankara implicitly rejects both the
 emancipation of
  yoga, namely, that liberation has to be accomplished through the
real
  dissociation of the purusa from prakrti, and the yogic pursuit
towards
 that
  end, - Â that is, the achievement of
  nirvikalpa or asamprajata-samadhi (transcendence).
 
  Read it and weep.
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Repealing TM's Anti-Saint Policies

2013-06-18 Thread seventhray27

would that be like the hard on you have for Maharishi several times a
day?


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote:

 ha ha ha ha ha! Buck finally got a rise out of Nabby!!!




 
 From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 10:26 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Repealing TM's Anti-Saint Policies



 Â


 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
 
 
  The large threat here to the work of the Meissner Effect in the
Domes is not saints but the administrative *prohibition* around sitting
with them. That TM anti-saint policy has made hypocrites of everyone,
even of Guru Dev who consuls people specifically to seek the company of
saints, mahatmas and wise people. It is time to repeal the TM
Anti-saint policies. Just git rid of those gnarly old TM sentiments and
policy and just stop using it as punishment to create fugitive
meditators. That policy has been the ruination of our Dome numbers here
the way it has worked on the community. For the affect that there could
have been had all these years had there been a properly numbered
Meissner Effect except for the enforcement of the TM anti-saint policies
has been a crime against humanity.

 Buck please have a checking





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