[FairfieldLife] RE: Sumatikirti Kadampa?
Gyatso on praaNa's: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOKT6YpP6vg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOKT6YpP6vg ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill@... wrote: If yer talking about their lineage then wiki search on Kelsang Gyatso. The Dalai Lama changed things and denounced a protector that had been worshiped by many other Gelugpa-s for quite a while. Apparently some monks and nuns then denounced the Dalai Lama and started a break-away lineage under Kelsang. Tibetans can be as much or more psycho as Christians. However, not as sociopathic as the Muslims. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister@... wrote: Anyone heard of this: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Meditaatio-Suomessa-Sumatikirti-Kadampa-buddhalainen-keskus/215145618515052?fref=ts https://www.facebook.com/pages/Meditaatio-Suomessa-Sumatikirti-Kadampa-buddhalainen-keskus/215145618515052?fref=ts Nice Facebook pages?
[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Sumatikirti Kadampa?
Dalai Lama lied?? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zp0N72-uv58 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zp0N72-uv58 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister@... wrote: Gyatso on praaNa's: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOKT6YpP6vg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOKT6YpP6vg ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill@... wrote: If yer talking about their lineage then wiki search on Kelsang Gyatso. The Dalai Lama changed things and denounced a protector that had been worshiped by many other Gelugpa-s for quite a while. Apparently some monks and nuns then denounced the Dalai Lama and started a break-away lineage under Kelsang. Tibetans can be as much or more psycho as Christians. However, not as sociopathic as the Muslims. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister@... wrote: Anyone heard of this: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Meditaatio-Suomessa-Sumatikirti-Kadampa-buddhalainen-keskus/215145618515052?fref=ts https://www.facebook.com/pages/Meditaatio-Suomessa-Sumatikirti-Kadampa-buddhalainen-keskus/215145618515052?fref=ts Nice Facebook pages?
[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Sumatikirti Kadampa?
Dalai lama is a politician? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wC-F6VUyGZM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wC-F6VUyGZM ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister@... wrote: Gyatso on praaNa's: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOKT6YpP6vg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOKT6YpP6vg ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill@... wrote: If yer talking about their lineage then wiki search on Kelsang Gyatso. The Dalai Lama changed things and denounced a protector that had been worshiped by many other Gelugpa-s for quite a while. Apparently some monks and nuns then denounced the Dalai Lama and started a break-away lineage under Kelsang. Tibetans can be as much or more psycho as Christians. However, not as sociopathic as the Muslims. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister@... wrote: Anyone heard of this: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Meditaatio-Suomessa-Sumatikirti-Kadampa-buddhalainen-keskus/215145618515052?fref=ts https://www.facebook.com/pages/Meditaatio-Suomessa-Sumatikirti-Kadampa-buddhalainen-keskus/215145618515052?fref=ts Nice Facebook pages?
[FairfieldLife] CC affects p-nis length??
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[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: A Meditator#39;s Thanksgiving
OK - Thank you for revealing your lack of experience with GC. Frankly, it didn't sound to me, as if you knew what you were talking about, when you first brought it up. I am also curious why you think you are in unity. It sounds like your unity has a lot of conditions attached to it, in order to remain unified. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote: The thought popped into my head, and then I put to the keyboard and you read it. As basically an atheist, I seemed to have mostly done an end run around GC, it had no conceptual material to work with, as GC, as M explained it, derives its material from what one's beliefs are in regard to spiritual traditions etc. Still this state is described in various ways. For example the philosopher Plotinus said nous (pure being) falls in love and is simplified into a happy fullness. I remember writing some things long ago that from an emotional point of view correspond with what Buck is writing now, but I did not express it in religious terms. Benchmarks are guide posts but are not rigid time and place dependent markers, and you might experience something of unity even when you are barely transcending as a new meditator, or if you are one of those rare individuals like Ekhart Tolle or Krishnamurti, you might just slip into unity without any preliminaries. Unity throws you off the path, the path dies, you are on your own, and there is no way to doubt it, if it is clear enough. By on your own, I mean there isn't anything else, even though you can refer to your body as 'me' and so forth. Everything that went before is seen through as having been as a fraud. Eventually you can look at it any way you like, as wholeness, as unity, as duality. Everything that was there before is still there except the relationship of thought with experience undergoes a profound shift, their roles are reversed so to speak, thought becoming secondary. Those words, duality, unity are not what is experienced, they are just ways you try to convey the potential of that experience to someone else. You cannot give it to them because they have it in spades already. They just do not realise what it can be for them so you try to light a fire under them to get them moving in the proper direction, which is not a direction at all. Basically you want their mind to completely stop, and eventually recognize what the significance of that is. There are things people can learn to do that seems to increase the probability that this will happen, like meditation. Buck has been expressing himself dualistically, so I was rubbing the grain the other way. So if you are in unity, and someone smashes an ice cream cone in your face, are you going to assume the universe has no parts? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Hi, Your post brought up a few questions for me: What gives you the idea that God Consciousness is the *last* stage of delusion? What does that even mean, and how would you know? Are you willing to share your deluded experiences of GC with me? Also, if Buck is the unified field, aren't you looking to him, and therefore, looking to it, when addressing him? Why can't duality occur within the wholeness of Unity, according to you? Thx (rhymes with Spx) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote: This is redundant Buck. You are the unified field, you cannot look to it. Are you by any chance in that last stage of delusion known as GC? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: My spirit looks to the Unified Field alone, My rock and refuge is Its throne. In all my fears, in all my straits, My soul on Its salvation waits. Trust It, ye meditators, in all your ways, Pour out your hearts before Its face; When helpers fail and foes invade, the Unified Field is our all-sufficient aid. Paraphrased excerpt from Psalm 62 by Isaac Watts: http://www.ccel.org/ccel/watts/psalmshymns.Ps.131.html http://www.ccel.org/ccel/watts/psalmshymns.Ps.131.html
RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] 10 Ways Liars Use Words To Obscure the Truth
I like Curtis, but I found him to be emotionally duplicitous - that means acting one way, while feeling another. Its a gut thing, Barry, so I cannot explain it further. Except to say that Curtis is not unique in that regard, and I show no prejudice, personally, towards him, as I avoid all of those who are ignorant of their true natures, equally. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: Richard, A well poisoner. Nice observation, including all the rest you wrote. In post 363322 perhaps there is a clue. In a response to Share authfriend wrote: P.S.: You're quite right about my childhood, albeit not in the way you hope. I had a happy, stress-free childhood with two parents who loved me deeply and steadfastly. They passed on their own devotion to authenticity and loathing of phoniness to me. Whatever she feels is non authentic gets a dose of loathing, i.e., a feeling of intense dislike or disgust; hatred (that is the definition of the word). If you want to change the world, loathing is not the emotion I would want to operate from; it is the antithesis of acceptance, which is what spirituality develops (sometimes anyway). Loathing is the emotion you want to instill if you want to pass on intolerance. It is a blinding emotion. In the talk on how to detect and deal with liars I viewed as part of an internal IBM education program, the speaker pointed out one particular facial expression that one should *always* be wary of. He showed a photo of Dick Cheney, wearing a snarl characterized by one side of his mouth raised higher than the other and said, This is *contempt*. Whenever you see it, when in a business meeting, *don't* sign the contract, and instead just get up and leave the room. That is what the other person really thinks of you, and it's never going to change. The aspect of this whole routine that always amazes me when someone trots out the supposedly derogatory buzzphrase phony is that the person using this term never seems to be able to define what the target of their contempt is being a phony AT. The belief at the heart of hurling the epithet phony is that the person they are hurling it at is *pretending* to be something that they're not. I suggest that this is pure projection, coming in almost every case from people whose *whole lives* are about pretending to be something they're not. Such people really *cannot comprehend* other people who have no need to do this, so they constantly project their own insecure need to project an image onto those they dislike, incorrectly (in many cases) assuming that their contempt-objects have such a need as well. The classic example of this, of course, is Judy trying to deal with someone like Curtis. In my opinion, there have been no posters on this forum more comfortable with just being what they are than Curtis. I don't think I ever saw him pretend to be anything other than what he was...the sum state of his life, all that had led up to him being who and what he was, in that moment. But to Judy, he was a phony. A phony WHAT, Judy? *What* exactly did you believe that Curtis was trying to pretend to be? *What* exactly do you think that Share is trying to be, or that I am trying to be when you call us phonies? *Why* do you think that someone would ever have the need to try to project an image and convince other people to believe it? Could it possibly be because that's what YOU do, on a pretty much constant basis? Which of the people you have claimed were phonies, for instance, have ever said something as stupid and as *obviously* untrue as I never lie? YOU have said this, many times, and everyone here except you knows immediately that it's not true, and that you're lying when you say it. Wouldn't that make YOU the phony in this scenario? When you pretend to know what people really mean by what they wrote, when there is no possible way for you to know that, aren't YOU being the phony? Save your contempt for yourself, Judy. You're the one who demonstrates the behavior you claim to loathe the most on this forum. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@ wrote: I've been an respondent on the internet since 1999, so it's not like I'm a newbie or something. And it's been my observation that Judy has a really big ego, maybe bigger even than Barry, and that's saying a lot! There are facts and there are opinions - facts can be argued, but an opinion stands no matter what, and that's everyone's right to express - you may not agree, but there should be no excuse for slandering your debating opponents. It's like when some people call others 'nazis' all the time - it soon loses its force, and in the end doesn't do justice to the real nazi victims. At first I thought Judy was being very astute when she called Barry a liar over and over again; then she started going after me with the same
[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: Amish Girl Refuses Chemotheraphy
Ah, you spotted that I hadn't read the story. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Actually, if you read the story, the chemo had made her horribly ill, and she begged her parents not to make her continue. Doesn't seem to have had anything to do with religious preference per se. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Yup, natural selection works on the religious too. Maybe they'll see the irony in that and stop being so silly. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote: But the State of Ohio wants her to continue the treatment. It appears to me that the girl and her family have the right to forego the treatment if that is their religious preference to do so. http://news.yahoo.com/ohio-amish-girl-cuts-off-contact-amid-chemo-161240343.html http://news.yahoo.com/ohio-amish-girl-cuts-off-contact-amid-chemo-161240343.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] 10 Ways Liars Use Words To Obscure the Truth
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: I like Curtis, but I found him to be emotionally duplicitous - that means acting one way, while feeling another. Whereas you felt completely comfortable with Robin's overuse (combined with bad writing) of irony, the very definition of which is saying one thing and meaning another. I understand. :-) Its a gut thing, Barry, so I cannot explain it further. Except to say that Curtis is not unique in that regard, and I show no prejudice, personally, towards him, as I avoid all of those who are ignorant of their true natures, equally. Since that includes pretty much everyone who doesn't claim to be as enlightened as you are, I think it's noble of you to have anything to do with us at all. That was irony, just in case your gut thing didn't detect it. :-) We may agree to disagree about Curtis if you like. I found him to be one of the *most* WSIWYG people I've ever encountered. I miss *his* honesty here, because it presented such a contrast to those who put on such a show of being honest for their perceived audience, but are duplicitous to the core. Maybe that's why they hounded him until he didn't feel it was worth his time to participate here any more. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: Richard, A well poisoner. Nice observation, including all the rest you wrote. In post 363322 perhaps there is a clue. In a response to Share authfriend wrote: P.S.: You're quite right about my childhood, albeit not in the way you hope. I had a happy, stress-free childhood with two parents who loved me deeply and steadfastly. They passed on their own devotion to authenticity and loathing of phoniness to me. Whatever she feels is non authentic gets a dose of loathing, i.e., a feeling of intense dislike or disgust; hatred (that is the definition of the word). If you want to change the world, loathing is not the emotion I would want to operate from; it is the antithesis of acceptance, which is what spirituality develops (sometimes anyway). Loathing is the emotion you want to instill if you want to pass on intolerance. It is a blinding emotion. In the talk on how to detect and deal with liars I viewed as part of an internal IBM education program, the speaker pointed out one particular facial expression that one should *always* be wary of. He showed a photo of Dick Cheney, wearing a snarl characterized by one side of his mouth raised higher than the other and said, This is *contempt*. Whenever you see it, when in a business meeting, *don't* sign the contract, and instead just get up and leave the room. That is what the other person really thinks of you, and it's never going to change. The aspect of this whole routine that always amazes me when someone trots out the supposedly derogatory buzzphrase phony is that the person using this term never seems to be able to define what the target of their contempt is being a phony AT. The belief at the heart of hurling the epithet phony is that the person they are hurling it at is *pretending* to be something that they're not. I suggest that this is pure projection, coming in almost every case from people whose *whole lives* are about pretending to be something they're not. Such people really *cannot comprehend* other people who have no need to do this, so they constantly project their own insecure need to project an image onto those they dislike, incorrectly (in many cases) assuming that their contempt-objects have such a need as well. The classic example of this, of course, is Judy trying to deal with someone like Curtis. In my opinion, there have been no posters on this forum more comfortable with just being what they are than Curtis. I don't think I ever saw him pretend to be anything other than what he was...the sum state of his life, all that had led up to him being who and what he was, in that moment. But to Judy, he was a phony. A phony WHAT, Judy? *What* exactly did you believe that Curtis was trying to pretend to be? *What* exactly do you think that Share is trying to be, or that I am trying to be when you call us phonies? *Why* do you think that someone would ever have the need to try to project an image and convince other people to believe it? Could it possibly be because that's what YOU do, on a pretty much constant basis? Which of the people you have claimed were phonies, for instance, have ever said something as stupid and as *obviously* untrue as I never lie? YOU have said this, many times, and everyone here except you knows immediately that it's not true, and that you're lying when you say it. Wouldn't that make YOU the phony in this scenario? When you pretend to know what people really mean by what they wrote, when there is no possible way for you to know that, aren't YOU being the phony? Save your contempt for yourself, Judy. You're the one who demonstrates the behavior you claim to loathe the
[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: Amish Girl Refuses Chemotheraphy
The land of the free. Free to die because of religious beliefs? Fair enough. Plenty of belief systems refuse blood transfusions. I've known TMers who say they would refuse any sort of transplant because they don't want someone else's karma. In fact, I've known people who died because they chose alternative healthcare. Alternative to things that work it would seem. This is why I say natural selection works on the religious too. Not cruel at all, or at least no crueller than it is for you and me. Maybe if I'd read article That's a very cruel comment. I'm on the side of the parents. Since when does the state have the right to inflict chemotherapy on people who don't want it? The family has every right to choose an alternative method of treatment. This is supposed to be the land of the free. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: That's a very cruel comment. I'm on the side of the parents. Since when does the state have the right to inflict chemotherapy on people who don't want it? The family has every right to choose an alternative method of treatment. This is supposed to be the land of the free. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Yup, natural selection works on the religious too. Maybe they'll see the irony in that and stop being so silly. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote: But the State of Ohio wants her to continue the treatment. It appears to me that the girl and her family have the right to forego the treatment if that is their religious preference to do so. http://news.yahoo.com/ohio-amish-girl-cuts-off-contact-amid-chemo-161240343.html http://news.yahoo.com/ohio-amish-girl-cuts-off-contact-amid-chemo-161240343.html
RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] 10 Ways Liars Use Words To Obscure the Truth
I miss Curtis too. He has a solid, practical nature, and expresses it masterfully.
[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: A Meditator#39;s Thanksgiving
There is the experience of wholeness. You are not 'in it', the experience is it; there is nothing attached to it. The mind can play the game of trying to understand it with its habit of conditional thinking but ultimately it just has to surrender to the fact that that doesn't work. The unity does not have to do anything to hold together; it is not like a ball of caramel popcorn stuck together that can come apart. There is what is described as unity, but there is no one in it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: OK - Thank you for revealing your lack of experience with GC. Frankly, it didn't sound to me, as if you knew what you were talking about, when you first brought it up. I am also curious why you think you are in unity. It sounds like your unity has a lot of conditions attached to it, in order to remain unified. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote: The thought popped into my head, and then I put to the keyboard and you read it. As basically an atheist, I seemed to have mostly done an end run around GC, it had no conceptual material to work with, as GC, as M explained it, derives its material from what one's beliefs are in regard to spiritual traditions etc. Still this state is described in various ways. For example the philosopher Plotinus said nous (pure being) falls in love and is simplified into a happy fullness. I remember writing some things long ago that from an emotional point of view correspond with what Buck is writing now, but I did not express it in religious terms. Benchmarks are guide posts but are not rigid time and place dependent markers, and you might experience something of unity even when you are barely transcending as a new meditator, or if you are one of those rare individuals like Ekhart Tolle or Krishnamurti, you might just slip into unity without any preliminaries. Unity throws you off the path, the path dies, you are on your own, and there is no way to doubt it, if it is clear enough. By on your own, I mean there isn't anything else, even though you can refer to your body as 'me' and so forth. Everything that went before is seen through as having been as a fraud. Eventually you can look at it any way you like, as wholeness, as unity, as duality. Everything that was there before is still there except the relationship of thought with experience undergoes a profound shift, their roles are reversed so to speak, thought becoming secondary. Those words, duality, unity are not what is experienced, they are just ways you try to convey the potential of that experience to someone else. You cannot give it to them because they have it in spades already. They just do not realise what it can be for them so you try to light a fire under them to get them moving in the proper direction, which is not a direction at all. Basically you want their mind to completely stop, and eventually recognize what the significance of that is. There are things people can learn to do that seems to increase the probability that this will happen, like meditation. Buck has been expressing himself dualistically, so I was rubbing the grain the other way. So if you are in unity, and someone smashes an ice cream cone in your face, are you going to assume the universe has no parts? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Hi, Your post brought up a few questions for me: What gives you the idea that God Consciousness is the *last* stage of delusion? What does that even mean, and how would you know? Are you willing to share your deluded experiences of GC with me? Also, if Buck is the unified field, aren't you looking to him, and therefore, looking to it, when addressing him? Why can't duality occur within the wholeness of Unity, according to you? Thx (rhymes with Spx) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote: This is redundant Buck. You are the unified field, you cannot look to it. Are you by any chance in that last stage of delusion known as GC? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: My spirit looks to the Unified Field alone, My rock and refuge is Its throne. In all my fears, in all my straits, My soul on Its salvation waits. Trust It, ye meditators, in all your ways, Pour out your hearts before Its face; When helpers fail and foes invade, the Unified Field is our all-sufficient aid. Paraphrased excerpt from Psalm 62 by Isaac Watts: http://www.ccel.org/ccel/watts/psalmshymns.Ps.131.html http://www.ccel.org/ccel/watts/psalmshymns.Ps.131.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: A Meditator's Thanksgiving
Interesting. I used to have a lot of visual and auditory experiences in meditation and they always left me confused. I would come out of meditation and deny what I had just *seen* or *heard* until I realized it wasn't a matter of *seeing* or *hearing*, it was a matter of *Being*. I didn't *see* it because I *was* it. *I* was the whole experience. M used to say, Unity, it it's early days, can be very confusing. Never understood what he meant at the time, then it dawned on me. On Friday, November 29, 2013 5:51 AM, anartax...@yahoo.com anartax...@yahoo.com wrote: There is the experience of wholeness. You are not 'in it', the experience is it; there is nothing attached to it. The mind can play the game of trying to understand it with its habit of conditional thinking but ultimately it just has to surrender to the fact that that doesn't work. The unity does not have to do anything to hold together; it is not like a ball of caramel popcorn stuck together that can come apart. There is what is described as unity, but there is no one in it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: OK - Thank you for revealing your lack of experience with GC. Frankly, it didn't sound to me, as if you knew what you were talking about, when you first brought it up. I am also curious why you think you are in unity. It sounds like your unity has a lot of conditions attached to it, in order to remain unified. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote: The thought popped into my head, and then I put to the keyboard and you read it. As basically an atheist, I seemed to have mostly done an end run around GC, it had no conceptual material to work with, as GC, as M explained it, derives its material from what one's beliefs are in regard to spiritual traditions etc. Still this state is described in various ways. For example the philosopher Plotinus said nous (pure being) falls in love and is simplified into a happy fullness. I remember writing some things long ago that from an emotional point of view correspond with what Buck is writing now, but I did not express it in religious terms. Benchmarks are guide posts but are not rigid time and place dependent markers, and you might experience something of unity even when you are barely transcending as a new meditator, or if you are one of those rare individuals like Ekhart Tolle or Krishnamurti, you might just slip into unity without any preliminaries. Unity throws you off the path, the path dies, you are on your own, and there is no way to doubt it, if it is clear enough. By on your own, I mean there isn't anything else, even though you can refer to your body as 'me' and so forth. Everything that went before is seen through as having been as a fraud. Eventually you can look at it any way you like, as wholeness, as unity, as duality. Everything that was there before is still there except the relationship of thought with experience undergoes a profound shift, their roles are reversed so to speak, thought becoming secondary. Those words, duality, unity are not what is experienced, they are just ways you try to convey the potential of that experience to someone else. You cannot give it to them because they have it in spades already. They just do not realise what it can be for them so you try to light a fire under them to get them moving in the proper direction, which is not a direction at all. Basically you want their mind to completely stop, and eventually recognize what the significance of that is. There are things people can learn to do that seems to increase the probability that this will happen, like meditation. Buck has been expressing himself dualistically, so I was rubbing the grain the other way. So if you are in unity, and someone smashes an ice cream cone in your face, are you going to assume the universe has no parts? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Hi, Your post brought up a few questions for me: What gives you the idea that God Consciousness is the *last* stage of delusion? What does that even mean, and how would you know? Are you willing to share your deluded experiences of GC with me? Also, if Buck is the unified field, aren't you looking to him, and therefore, looking to it, when addressing him? Why can't duality occur within the wholeness of Unity, according to you? Thx (rhymes with Spx) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote: This is redundant Buck. You are the unified field, you cannot look to it. Are you by any chance in that last stage of delusion known as GC? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: My spirit looks to the Unified Field alone, My rock and refuge is Its throne. In all my fears, in all my straits, My soul on Its salvation waits. Trust It, ye meditators, in all your ways, Pour out your hearts before Its face; When helpers fail and
RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] 10 Ways Liars Use Words To Obscure the Truth
Barry wrote: Which of the people you have claimed were phonies, for instance, have ever said something as stupid and as *obviously* untrue as I never lie? YOU. Many times, pretending to quote me. YOU have said this, many times, I can't find one single instance in the archives of my ever having said those words here. Can you?
RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] 10 Ways Liars Use Words To Obscure the Truth
To be a little more specific, if I may: Curtis pretended to be comfortable with who he was, as Barry puts it. But that was a carefully constructed facade, and it took very little in the way of chipping to expose the real Curtis underneath. Anyone who ever tangled with Curtis discovered this. Curtis was comfortable with who he was as long as he didn't feel challenged. When he was feeling challenged, it was a very different story: his entire being became totally focused on defending himself and annihilating his challenger, using whatever means he could, no matter how duplicitous, including flat-out lying. Curtis was not a nice guy, and while he fooled quite a few people, I was hardly the only person on FFL to see through his act. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: I like Curtis, but I found him to be emotionally duplicitous - that means acting one way, while feeling another. Its a gut thing, Barry, so I cannot explain it further. Except to say that Curtis is not unique in that regard, and I show no prejudice, personally, towards him, as I avoid all of those who are ignorant of their true natures, equally.
RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] 10 Ways Liars Use Words To Obscure the Truth
Xeno wrote: As for authfriend, she said she would not have any discussions with me until I apologised for some slight to her phony authenticity, and she has tried to worm out of that by entering into a thread I have started or entered myself by 'making a comment' and proclaiming that to not be entering a discussion. But of course that is exactly how you enter a discussion, by making a comment. If anybody ever thought Xeno had any integrity, the above should change their minds.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: Amish Girl Refuses Chemotheraphy
This morning when I opened Yahoo there was a news story in the top five saying that the family was fleeing the country! Now when I went to find that story, it's gone! On Friday, November 29, 2013 6:24 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: The land of the free. Free to die because of religious beliefs? Fair enough. Plenty of belief systems refuse blood transfusions. I've known TMers who say they would refuse any sort of transplant because they don't want someone else's karma. In fact, I've known people who died because they chose alternative healthcare. Alternative to things that work it would seem. This is why I say natural selection works on the religious too. Not cruel at all, or at least no crueller than it is for you and me. Maybe if I'd read article That's a very cruel comment. I'm on the side of the parents. Since when does the state have the right to inflict chemotherapy on people who don't want it? The family has every right to choose an alternative method of treatment. This is supposed to be the land of the free. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: That's a very cruel comment. I'm on the side of the parents. Since when does the state have the right to inflict chemotherapy on people who don't want it? The family has every right to choose an alternative method of treatment. This is supposed to be the land of the free. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Yup, natural selection works on the religious too. Maybe they'll see the irony in that and stop being so silly. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote: But the State of Ohio wants her to continue the treatment. It appears to me that the girl and her family have the right to forego the treatment if that is their religious preference to do so. http://news.yahoo.com/ohio-amish-girl-cuts-off-contact-amid-chemo-161240343.html
RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] 10 Ways Liars Use Words To Obscure the Truth
Dr. Dumbass wrote: I like Curtis, but I found him to be emotionally duplicitous - that means acting one way, while feeling another. Barry remarked: Whereas you felt completely comfortable with Robin's overuse (combined with bad writing) of irony, the very definition of which is saying one thing and meaning another. I understand. :-) Irony is designed to be understood as such, and most people know it when they see it. But Barry has always had a hard time recognizing irony, which is one big reason why Robin made him so uncomfortable--he could never be sure when Robin was being ironic. Curtis, in stark contrast, went to considerable lengths to hide his emotional duplicity. Barry's never been good at detecting that either, which is why he describes Curtis as WYSIWYG.
[FairfieldLife] Good Endings
Walking my dog along the Leiden canals just now, I found myself with a song running through my head. It was Lissie's Everywhere I Go, which I would never have heard of (let alone heard) if Joss Whedon hadn't used it in the last scene of Dollhouse. That was a perfect song, inserted at just the right part of a Perfect Ending. Not everything has a Good Ending. Especially in the world of television, where the vagaries and egos of networks and production companies often cut a TV series too short, and without giving proper notice. Proper notice, in my lexicon, means telling the people who are creating the TV show week by week that you're cancelling their asses *several weeks before you do it*. That gives them a chance to come up with a Good Ending. And yet, even proper notice can't save a series that has already jumped the shark, as we saw with the recent ending of Dexter. That was SO not a Good Ending, even though they had a whole year to prepare for it. Joss Whedon's Firefly was not given proper notice. They were on the air one week with four episodes already in the can and ready to be shown and Fox just pulled the plug on them. They didn't even air the not-yet-seen episodes. Just Bam!...bullet in the head. *Not* a Good Ending. And it *felt* like that to the fans, as well. They hit the roof and hit the Internet, and stirred up enough outrage and enough chatter that Joss was able to make a full-length movie followup to his cancelled series, called Serenity. And, knowing that in all likelihood he was never going to get another shot at the Firefly 'Verse again, he pulled out all the stops and came up not only with a Good Ending, but a Perfect Ending. It bookended perfectly with the history of the entire series. At the end of the first episode of Firefly, Mal is sitting in the control room of Serenity, saying to one of his crew, That was a good day. The crew member reminds Mal that he was shot, several members of his crew are wounded, and that they barely escaped with their lives. Mal says something like, We're still flying. That's a good day. At the end of Serenity, Mal is sitting in the control room with another of his crew, one who in this case can even read minds: Capt. Malcolm Reynolds: But it ain't all buttons and charts, little albatross. You know what the first rule of flying is? Well, I suppose you do, since you already know what I'm about to say. River Tam: I do. But I like to hear you say it. Capt. Malcolm Reynolds: Love. You can learn all the math in the 'Verse, but you take a boat in the air that you don't love, she'll shake you off just as sure as the turning of the worlds. Love keeps her in the air when she oughta fall down, tells you she's hurtin' 'fore she keens. Makes her a home. River Tam: Storm's getting worse. Capt. Malcolm Reynolds: We'll pass through it soon enough. All these episodes on, and Mal and his crew are still flying. Good Ending. The recent culmination of Breaking Bad pretty much sets the bar for how high TV creators can jump when ending their series. It was the definition of not only Good Ending, but Perfect Ending. Another TV show I thought had a Perfect Ending was (again) Joss Whedon's Dollhouse. The show was cancelled halfway through its second season, but this time Fox gave him the time to create a Good Ending. In my opinion, Joss turned that into an opportunity to create a Perfect Ending. I think that the last episode of Dollhouse (if you've seen all the other episodes) is as classic an example of the Perfect Ending as the last episode of Breaking Bad (same caveat about having seen all that led up to it). If you *did* watch all the episodes of Dollhouse, and enjoyed them, then this song is permanently etched in your mind. So much so that it occasionally plays in your head spontaneously from time to time, as it just did on my walk. If you didn't, it's just a song. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLm1suqb-6g http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLm1suqb-6g
Re: [FairfieldLife] 10 Ways Liars Use Words To Obscure the Truth
Ah, the patented Steinian Nitpick Lie. :-) Now Judy's going to pretend that 41 instances of I don't lie don't add up to a declaration of I never lie. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/msearch?date=anyDM=\ DD=DY=DM2=DD2=DY2=AM=containsAT=a\ uthfriendSM=containsST=MM=containsMT=%22I+don%27t+lie%22charset=UTF\ -8 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/msearch?date=anyDM=---\ -DD=DY=DM2=DD2=DY2=AM=containsAT=\ authfriendSM=containsST=MM=containsMT=%22I+don%27t+lie%22charset=UT\ F-8 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Judy Stein wrote: Barry wrote: Which of the people you have claimed were phonies, for instance, have ever said something as stupid and as *obviously* untrue as I never lie? YOU. Many times, pretending to quote me. YOU have said this, many times, I can't find one single instance in the archives of my ever having said those words here. Can you?
RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: Amish Girl Refuses Chemotheraphy
Share blurted: This morning when I opened Yahoo there was a news story in the top five saying that the family was fleeing the country! Now when I went to find that story, it's gone! Wow!! That's amazing!! You mean this story that was on Good Morning America this morning? http://gma.yahoo.com/gap-chemo-makes-amish-girls-leukemia-more-difficult-232308511--abc-news-health.html http://gma.yahoo.com/gap-chemo-makes-amish-girls-leukemia-more-difficult-232308511--abc-news-health.html On Friday, November 29, 2013 6:24 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: The land of the free. Free to die because of religious beliefs? Fair enough. Plenty of belief systems refuse blood transfusions. I've known TMers who say they would refuse any sort of transplant because they don't want someone else's karma. In fact, I've known people who died because they chose alternative healthcare. Alternative to things that work it would seem. This is why I say natural selection works on the religious too. Not cruel at all, or at least no crueller than it is for you and me. Maybe if I'd read article That's a very cruel comment. I'm on the side of the parents. Since when does the state have the right to inflict chemotherapy on people who don't want it? The family has every right to choose an alternative method of treatment. This is supposed to be the land of the free. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: That's a very cruel comment. I'm on the side of the parents. Since when does the state have the right to inflict chemotherapy on people who don't want it? The family has every right to choose an alternative method of treatment. This is supposed to be the land of the free. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Yup, natural selection works on the religious too. Maybe they'll see the irony in that and stop being so silly. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote: But the State of Ohio wants her to continue the treatment. It appears to me that the girl and her family have the right to forego the treatment if that is their religious preference to do so. http://news.yahoo.com/ohio-amish-girl-cuts-off-contact-amid-chemo-161240343.html http://news.yahoo.com/ohio-amish-girl-cuts-off-contact-amid-chemo-161240343.html
RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: Amish Girl Refuses Chemotheraphy
Share, make Google your friend! Missed you at the Thanksgiving dinner yesterday. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: This morning when I opened Yahoo there was a news story in the top five saying that the family was fleeing the country! Now when I went to find that story, it's gone! On Friday, November 29, 2013 6:24 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: The land of the free. Free to die because of religious beliefs? Fair enough. Plenty of belief systems refuse blood transfusions. I've known TMers who say they would refuse any sort of transplant because they don't want someone else's karma. In fact, I've known people who died because they chose alternative healthcare. Alternative to things that work it would seem. This is why I say natural selection works on the religious too. Not cruel at all, or at least no crueller than it is for you and me. Maybe if I'd read article That's a very cruel comment. I'm on the side of the parents. Since when does the state have the right to inflict chemotherapy on people who don't want it? The family has every right to choose an alternative method of treatment. This is supposed to be the land of the free. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: That's a very cruel comment. I'm on the side of the parents. Since when does the state have the right to inflict chemotherapy on people who don't want it? The family has every right to choose an alternative method of treatment. This is supposed to be the land of the free. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Yup, natural selection works on the religious too. Maybe they'll see the irony in that and stop being so silly. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote: But the State of Ohio wants her to continue the treatment. It appears to me that the girl and her family have the right to forego the treatment if that is their religious preference to do so. http://news.yahoo.com/ohio-amish-girl-cuts-off-contact-amid-chemo-161240343.html http://news.yahoo.com/ohio-amish-girl-cuts-off-contact-amid-chemo-161240343.html
RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] 10 Ways Liars Use Words To Obscure the Truth
No big deal - You, however, strike me as a lot more emotionally honest, than Curtis. Weird, huh? Seriously, you sometimes express yourself in a hostile and negative way, and own it, but ol' Curt, blinded with his stories of who he was, was just so gosh darned folksy jokesy, until his shit leaked out sideways, that I found him too weird to interact with, after awhile. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: I like Curtis, but I found him to be emotionally duplicitous - that means acting one way, while feeling another. Whereas you felt completely comfortable with Robin's overuse (combined with bad writing) of irony, the very definition of which is saying one thing and meaning another. I understand. :-) Its a gut thing, Barry, so I cannot explain it further. Except to say that Curtis is not unique in that regard, and I show no prejudice, personally, towards him, as I avoid all of those who are ignorant of their true natures, equally. Since that includes pretty much everyone who doesn't claim to be as enlightened as you are, I think it's noble of you to have anything to do with us at all. That was irony, just in case your gut thing didn't detect it. :-) We may agree to disagree about Curtis if you like. I found him to be one of the *most* WSIWYG people I've ever encountered. I miss *his* honesty here, because it presented such a contrast to those who put on such a show of being honest for their perceived audience, but are duplicitous to the core. Maybe that's why they hounded him until he didn't feel it was worth his time to participate here any more. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: Richard, A well poisoner. Nice observation, including all the rest you wrote. In post 363322 perhaps there is a clue. In a response to Share authfriend wrote: P.S.: You're quite right about my childhood, albeit not in the way you hope. I had a happy, stress-free childhood with two parents who loved me deeply and steadfastly. They passed on their own devotion to authenticity and loathing of phoniness to me. Whatever she feels is non authentic gets a dose of loathing, i.e., a feeling of intense dislike or disgust; hatred (that is the definition of the word). If you want to change the world, loathing is not the emotion I would want to operate from; it is the antithesis of acceptance, which is what spirituality develops (sometimes anyway). Loathing is the emotion you want to instill if you want to pass on intolerance. It is a blinding emotion. In the talk on how to detect and deal with liars I viewed as part of an internal IBM education program, the speaker pointed out one particular facial expression that one should *always* be wary of. He showed a photo of Dick Cheney, wearing a snarl characterized by one side of his mouth raised higher than the other and said, This is *contempt*. Whenever you see it, when in a business meeting, *don't* sign the contract, and instead just get up and leave the room. That is what the other person really thinks of you, and it's never going to change. The aspect of this whole routine that always amazes me when someone trots out the supposedly derogatory buzzphrase phony is that the person using this term never seems to be able to define what the target of their contempt is being a phony AT. The belief at the heart of hurling the epithet phony is that the person they are hurling it at is *pretending* to be something that they're not. I suggest that this is pure projection, coming in almost every case from people whose *whole lives* are about pretending to be something they're not. Such people really *cannot comprehend* other people who have no need to do this, so they constantly project their own insecure need to project an image onto those they dislike, incorrectly (in many cases) assuming that their contempt-objects have such a need as well. The classic example of this, of course, is Judy trying to deal with someone like Curtis. In my opinion, there have been no posters on this forum more comfortable with just being what they are than Curtis. I don't think I ever saw him pretend to be anything other than what he was...the sum state of his life, all that had led up to him being who and what he was, in that moment. But to Judy, he was a phony. A phony WHAT, Judy? *What* exactly did you believe that Curtis was trying to pretend to be? *What* exactly do you think that Share is trying to be, or that I am trying to be when you call us phonies? *Why* do you think that someone would ever have the need to try to project an image and convince other people to believe it? Could it possibly be because that's
RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: Amish Girl Refuses Chemotheraphy
I have used the Google. - former President G. W. Bush ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Share, make Google your friend! Missed you at the Thanksgiving dinner yesterday. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: This morning when I opened Yahoo there was a news story in the top five saying that the family was fleeing the country! Now when I went to find that story, it's gone! On Friday, November 29, 2013 6:24 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: The land of the free. Free to die because of religious beliefs? Fair enough. Plenty of belief systems refuse blood transfusions. I've known TMers who say they would refuse any sort of transplant because they don't want someone else's karma. In fact, I've known people who died because they chose alternative healthcare. Alternative to things that work it would seem. This is why I say natural selection works on the religious too. Not cruel at all, or at least no crueller than it is for you and me. Maybe if I'd read article That's a very cruel comment. I'm on the side of the parents. Since when does the state have the right to inflict chemotherapy on people who don't want it? The family has every right to choose an alternative method of treatment. This is supposed to be the land of the free. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: That's a very cruel comment. I'm on the side of the parents. Since when does the state have the right to inflict chemotherapy on people who don't want it? The family has every right to choose an alternative method of treatment. This is supposed to be the land of the free. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Yup, natural selection works on the religious too. Maybe they'll see the irony in that and stop being so silly. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote: But the State of Ohio wants her to continue the treatment. It appears to me that the girl and her family have the right to forego the treatment if that is their religious preference to do so. http://news.yahoo.com/ohio-amish-girl-cuts-off-contact-amid-chemo-161240343.html http://news.yahoo.com/ohio-amish-girl-cuts-off-contact-amid-chemo-161240343.html
RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] 10 Ways Liars Use Words To Obscure the Truth
Actually, having been caught lying about what I've said, Barry is now pretending it wasn't the never that had him so exercised: Researchers into lying would find this claim rather suspect, because in their studies they've never found a single individual who *never* lies. Science tells us that human beings tell on the average 25 lies a day. A self-honest person can look at themselves and realize that they tell lies, too, if only to themselves. Only an idiot would claim, 'I never lie.' Ah, the patented Steinian Nitpick Lie. :-) Uh-huh. If it were just a nitpick, how come Barry has for years been so careful to make it never lie every time he wants to attack me for...uh...not lying? Now Judy's going to pretend that 41 instances of I don't lie don't add up to a declaration of I never lie. Well, don't certainly doesn't have the same appeal as never for Barry. There must be a reason why he always misquotes me as saying never. Could it be that it's not quite so easy to accuse me of lying when I say I don't lie as it would be if I had said I never lie? Could it be that I don't lie and I never lie aren't actually equivalent, and Barry is well aware of it? The fun thing is that while there are innumerable documented instances in the archives of Barry lying, there aren't any of me lying. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/msearch?date=anyDM=DD=DY=DM2=DD2=DY2=AM=containsAT=authfriendSM=containsST=MM=containsMT=%22I+don%27t+lie%22charset=UTF-8 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/msearch?date=anyDM=DD=DY=DM2=DD2=DY2=AM=containsAT=authfriendSM=containsST=MM=containsMT=%22I+don%27t+lie%22charset=UTF-8 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Judy Stein wrote: Barry wrote: Which of the people you have claimed were phonies, for instance, have ever said something as stupid and as *obviously* untrue as I never lie? YOU. Many times, pretending to quote me. YOU have said this, many times, I can't find one single instance in the archives of my ever having said those words here. Can you?
Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: Amish Girl Refuses Chemotheraphy
feste, I was doing a moveable feast yesterday! Thanksgiving lunch with my Mom and sister and her family then dinner with my half sister, my Dad and step Mom and that family. Today I am recuperating (-: After dinner we played a fun board game called Mexican Train Wreck. It's kind of a complicated dominoes that can be played by up to 7 people. Hope you all had a great time. Was CO there and in fine fettle? On Friday, November 29, 2013 9:38 AM, feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Share, make Google your friend! Missed you at the Thanksgiving dinner yesterday. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: This morning when I opened Yahoo there was a news story in the top five saying that the family was fleeing the country! Now when I went to find that story, it's gone! On Friday, November 29, 2013 6:24 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: The land of the free. Free to die because of religious beliefs? Fair enough. Plenty of belief systems refuse blood transfusions. I've known TMers who say they would refuse any sort of transplant because they don't want someone else's karma. In fact, I've known people who died because they chose alternative healthcare. Alternative to things that work it would seem. This is why I say natural selection works on the religious too. Not cruel at all, or at least no crueller than it is for you and me. Maybe if I'd read article That's a very cruel comment. I'm on the side of the parents. Since when does the state have the right to inflict chemotherapy on people who don't want it? The family has every right to choose an alternative method of treatment. This is supposed to be the land of the free. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: That's a very cruel comment. I'm on the side of the parents. Since when does the state have the right to inflict chemotherapy on people who don't want it? The family has every right to choose an alternative method of treatment. This is supposed to be the land of the free. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Yup, natural selection works on the religious too. Maybe they'll see the irony in that and stop being so silly. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote: But the State of Ohio wants her to continue the treatment. It appears to me that the girl and her family have the right to forego the treatment if that is their religious preference to do so. http://news.yahoo.com/ohio-amish-girl-cuts-off-contact-amid-chemo-161240343.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: 10 Ways Liars Use Words To Obscure the Truth
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: Ah, the patented Steinian Nitpick Lie. :-) Now Judy's going to pretend that 41 instances of I don't lie don't add up to a declaration of I never lie. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/msearch?date=anyDM=\ DD=DY=DM2=DD2=DY2=AM=containsAT=a\ uthfriendSM=containsST=MM=containsMT=%22I+don%27t+lie%22charset=UTF\ -8 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/msearch?date=anyDM=---\ -DD=DY=DM2=DD2=DY2=AM=containsAT=\ authfriendSM=containsST=MM=containsMT=%22I+don%27t+lie%22charset=UT\ F-8 Since I belatedly realized that this search is done in the old Yahoo interface and that possibly not everyone can see it, here are a few highlights: Oct 5, 2013, in message #359820 I don't lie or twist or reshuffle. Aug 13, 2013, in message #353409 I'm not the Queen of anything, but as you know, Nabby, I don't lie Aug 13, 2013, in message #353336 Plus which, they know I don't lie, and they know you *do* lie. Feb 12, 2013, in message #335232 Um, no, it's because they know I don't lie. Jan 26, 2013, in message #333579 I don't lie, and I deny only what is not true. Mar 12, 2012, in message #306217 Oops, no, Raunchy and I don't lie. Mar 1, 2012, in message #305356 There are no lies in the paragraph. I sometimes make mistakes, but I don't lie. Jan 9, 2012, in message #301381 I'm tough, but I'm pretty fair; I don't lie; I usually check my facts; and I rarely make gratuitous attacks. Nor do I dump nastily on posters who respectfully and sincerely say things I don't agree with. Oct 31, 2011, in message #293675 Vaj has never caught me in a lie, for the simple reason that I don't lie. Jul 12, 2011, in message #282357 Since Judy doesn't lie, it's not possible for her to be lying *again*. Vaj knows I don't lie. Apr 11, 2011, in message #274245 Whatever my other faults may be, I don't lie. Oct 31, 2010, in message #260625 I don't lie. I'm not a hypocrite. Oct 11, 2010, in message #259089 As you and Vaj well know, I don't lie. Jan 26, 2010, in message #239742 I don't lie about Barry. It's his lies that create the battle. Jan 3, 2009, in message #203765 In contrast, I don't lie, and I do my damndest to be fair. Jan 3, 2009, in message #203746 Vaj knows I don't lie, so his comment above is itself a lie. Aug 17, 2008, in message #187141 Funny thing is, nobody has ever caught me in a lie in any Internet forum. You know why? It's because there isn't anything to catch. I don't lie. Mar 15, 2008, in message #170153 However, I'm not duplicitous, mendacious, dishonest, or disingenuous. And I don't lie, either. Dec 3, 2007, in message #156651 As Vaj knows, I don't lie. I haven't lied before, and I wasn't lying here. Sep 25, 2007, in message #149814 Nope, I don't lie, Vaj. Don't project. May 22, 2006, in message #98982 BTW, I don't lie, nor do I rewrite history. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Judy Stein wrote: Barry wrote: Which of the people you have claimed were phonies, for instance, have ever said something as stupid and as *obviously* untrue as I never lie? YOU. Many times, pretending to quote me. YOU have said this, many times, I can't find one single instance in the archives of my ever having said those words here. Can you?
RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: A Meditator#39;s Thanksgiving
Thanks Doc for your diagnosis too. I concur. Yep, these intellectual guys work way too hard at something that is much simpler as It is. It is, as is Simplest state of Being, with a nose in the human life. It is fabulous in reality. They are so close and so knowledgeable in ways you can feel they just should come back, get their Dome badge updated, sit up and really go for It and git along for the finish line. Like, what else are they dooing? I sense Annex should come back; like he so wants it, should get on back on faculty again and really go for It some more. Attend to It and sit more intently with It more. Is an amazing benefit of Being on MUM faculty for instance, that you get housing, meals, stipend, and the time actually structured to the work day to do long meditation and Be with the Knowledge. It is incredible. It is way better than say, just Federal prison where you just get three squares and some clothes to wear, or just working out in the world. And, hey there are more graduate degrees that can be taken too as a means to Be here. It is a great prescription for finishing a life on earth while you have it. Life is so pitiful and pitiable otherwise. I'd say, Git on with It. It is time for old meditators who do know better to Be here now and git it done, -Buck in the Dome Like what are people waiting for! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote: Interesting. I used to have a lot of visual and auditory experiences in meditation and they always left me confused. I would come out of meditation and deny what I had just *seen* or *heard* until I realized it wasn't a matter of *seeing* or *hearing*, it was a matter of *Being*. I didn't *see* it because I *was* it. *I* was the whole experience. M used to say, Unity, it it's early days, can be very confusing. Never understood what he meant at the time, then it dawned on me. On Friday, November 29, 2013 5:51 AM, anartaxius@... anartaxius@... wrote: There is the experience of wholeness. You are not 'in it', the experience is it; there is nothing attached to it. The mind can play the game of trying to understand it with its habit of conditional thinking but ultimately it just has to surrender to the fact that that doesn't work. The unity does not have to do anything to hold together; it is not like a ball of caramel popcorn stuck together that can come apart. There is what is described as unity, but there is no one in it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: OK - Thank you for revealing your lack of experience with GC. Frankly, it didn't sound to me, as if you knew what you were talking about, when you first brought it up. I am also curious why you think you are in unity. It sounds like your unity has a lot of conditions attached to it, in order to remain unified. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote: The thought popped into my head, and then I put to the keyboard and you read it. As basically an atheist, I seemed to have mostly done an end run around GC, it had no conceptual material to work with, as GC, as M explained it, derives its material from what one's beliefs are in regard to spiritual traditions etc. Still this state is described in various ways. For example the philosopher Plotinus said nous (pure being) falls in love and is simplified into a happy fullness. I remember writing some things long ago that from an emotional point of view correspond with what Buck is writing now, but I did not express it in religious terms. Benchmarks are guide posts but are not rigid time and place dependent markers, and you might experience something of unity even when you are barely transcending as a new meditator, or if you are one of those rare individuals like Ekhart Tolle or Krishnamurti, you might just slip into unity without any preliminaries. Unity throws you off the path, the path dies, you are on your own, and there is no way to doubt it, if it is clear enough. By on your own, I mean there isn't anything else, even though you can refer to your body as 'me' and so forth. Everything that went before is seen through as having been as a fraud. Eventually you can look at it any way you like, as wholeness, as unity, as duality. Everything that was there before is still there except the relationship of thought with experience undergoes a profound shift, their roles are reversed so to speak, thought becoming secondary. Those words, duality, unity are not what is experienced, they are just ways you try to convey the potential of that experience to someone else. You cannot give it to them because they have it in spades already. They just do not realise what it can be for them so you try to light a fire under them to get them moving in the proper direction, which is not a direction at all. Basically you want their mind to completely stop, and eventually recognize what the significance of that
Re: [FairfieldLife] What I Did Today
Richard, hope you all had a good Thanksgiving. Mom refuses to go near a shopping area today so we won't be going to Whole Foods which is located in Annapolis Town Center featuring Target and lots of upscale clothing stores like Brook Bros. and Anthropologie. I'll be ready for the looney bin if we stay in all day so I'm hoping to lure her to CVS or Walgreens (-: On Wednesday, November 27, 2013 5:29 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: Yesterday we also went to Whole Foods and had a nice salad. They have got to have the very best salad bar in the whole town! On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 9:25 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote: Richard, yesterday I went to Coldwater Creek in Annapolis Town Center. I got my Mom a tunic length blouse for her birthday. It's a beautiful paisley print in black on white. But it's a little too small so we'll take it back today after lunch. I'm taking her and my sister to Brio's for lunch, also in Annapolis Town Center. People are calling my Mom this morning to wish her Happy Birthday. She's 83 and still zips around pretty well. Actually her foot can be a little heavy on the pedal but I just close my eyes LOL! On Tuesday, November 26, 2013 6:47 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: Today we went back to this place: On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 9:51 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: My Whole Foods has lots of dried fruit and nuts: On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 9:39 PM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote: Soon, Richard, I'll be going to the Whole Foods in Annapolis. They have TWO kinds of quinoa concoctions at the salad bar. How many different kinds of quinoa salad does your Whole Foods have? PS I LOVE these photos of the different places you visit or drive by! On Tuesday, November 19, 2013 9:25 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: Tonight we went to this place: On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 7:11 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: Today I drove by this place: On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 12:02 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: This morning I went to this place: On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 7:57 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: On the way home from the store I visited this place: On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 3:03 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: There;s a rock and roll running marathon here today and there having a Formula Grand Prix race up in Austin. But, I went to this place today: On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 6:07 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: Today I went by this place. What are those people all lined up for, waiting for days? On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 5:16 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: Later today I drove past this place: On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 4:21 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote: There's an app for this: https://twitter.com/ I'm sure everyone on FFL will sign up for your tweets. On 11/15/2013 12:07 PM, Richard Williams wrote: Alright, I'm back on the discussion board; sorry for the delay but I had to go here::
[FairfieldLife] 00000000, right
That's eight zeros above, not . is what you say when you learn that the launch codes to much of America's nuclear arsenal were set to for many years during the Cold War to eight zeros. Makes you feel all warm and comfy knowing that, doesn't it? :-) http://gizmodo.com/for-20-years-the-nuclear-launch-code-at-us-minuteman-\ si-1473483587 http://gizmodo.com/for-20-years-the-nuclear-launch-code-at-us-minuteman\ -si-1473483587 So to recap, for around 20 years, the Strategic Air Command went out of their way to make launching a nuclear missile as easy, and quick, as possible.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Thanksgiving California Style
noozguru, that world's slowest Starbuck's made me smile. But nice to have a sunny day. Curious what all the lemons were for! When I first arrived in Annapolis it rained cats and dogs were 2 days straight and the traffic here is horrendous anyway. Adventures in the big, bad city (-: On Thursday, November 28, 2013 1:00 PM, bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote: So much for rain today (which was forecast). I was also fairly overdressed to sit out on this patio. I had not planned to stop at the world's slowest Starbucks but they did not appear that busy from the parking lot. I had gone to the store to pick up some supplies for hors d'oeuvres and decided to treat myself. And wouldn't you know it about as soon as I wanted to take a picture someone comes out the door. And after I got back I picked large bunch of lemons to take to my nephew's who is hosting today. Happy Turkey (or tofurky) Day!
Re: [FairfieldLife] 00000000, right
Could we say the inmates have taken over the asylum?! On Friday, November 29, 2013 10:41 AM, TurquoiseB turquoi...@yahoo.com wrote: That's eight zeros above, not . is what you say when you learn that the launch codes to much of America's nuclear arsenal were set to for many years during the Cold War to eight zeros. Makes you feel all warm and comfy knowing that, doesn't it? :-) http://gizmodo.com/for-20-years-the-nuclear-launch-code-at-us-minuteman-si-1473483587 So to recap, for around 20 years, the Strategic Air Command went out of their way to make launching a nuclear missile as easy, and quick, as possible.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Thanksgiving - Pope Francis tells the truth about unbridled capitalism
Oy, Buck, I prefer to think of myself as a woman rather than a lady! Lady connotes, well never mind what it connotes. I am woman, hear me roar. On Wednesday, November 27, 2013 10:42 PM, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote: We have 'ladies' in the TM movement. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote: Interview: Sister Louise Akers Challenges the Church Patriarchy - Sun Magazine http://thesunmagazine.org/issues/455/sisterhood ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote: Absolutely! What a clever idea! Ah ha ha...yes, yes, yes...this will make good dinner conversation for you. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: CHAPTER ONE THE MOVEMENT’S MISSIONARY TRANSFORMATION CHAPTER ONE THE Movement’S MISSIONARY TRANSFORMATION [19] I. A Movement WHICH GOES FORTH [20-24] Taking the first step, being involved and supportive, bearing fruit and rejoicing [24] II. PASTORAL ACTIVITY AND CONVERSION [25-33] An ecclesial renewal which cannot be deferred [27-33] III. FROM THE HEART OF THE GOSPEL [34-39] IV. A MISSION EMBODIED WITHIN HUMAN LIMITS [40-45] V. A MOTHER WITH AN OPEN HEART [46-49] http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/francesco/apost_exhortations/documents/papa-francesco_esortazione-ap_20131124_evangelii-gaudium_en.html#No_to_an_economy_of_exclusion ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: His Holiness Nader Ram might take some pages for our TM movement from the Pope Frances play book. Yep, on becoming the universal movement of the Unified Field. The Popular Spiritual Liberation Front. Like chapter I reads, ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: I like this guy - He tells the truth, straight up. Even as the American Dream becomes less obtainable for most here, he points out, plainly, that the rest of the world, is suffering, far more than we do in the West; wars are waged simply for economic gain, rampant consumerism is dehumanizing everyone, and 'trickle down economics' is a naive idea, at best, and clearly does not work. http://www.businessinsider.com/the-pope-on-the-financial-system-inequality-money-2013-11
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: A Meditator#39;s Thanksgiving
Doc, our mutual buddy on Batgap is convinced that some people hit Unity first and afterwards experience GC. I don't get it but there you are! On Fri, 11/29/13, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com doctordumb...@rocketmail.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: A Meditator#39;s Thanksgiving To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, November 29, 2013, 4:59 AM OK - Thank you for revealing your lack of experience with GC. Frankly, it didn't sound to me, as if you knew what you were talking about, when you first brought it up. I am also curious why you think you are in unity. It sounds like your unity has a lot of conditions attached to it, in order to remain unified. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote: The thought popped into my head, and then I put to the keyboard and you read it. As basically an atheist, I seemed to have mostly done an end run around GC, it had no conceptual material to work with, as GC, as M explained it, derives its material from what one's beliefs are in regard to spiritual traditions etc. Still this state is described in various ways. For example the philosopher Plotinus said nous (pure being) falls in love and is simplified into a happy fullness. I remember writing some things long ago that from an emotional point of view correspond with what Buck is writing now, but I did not express it in religious terms. Benchmarks are guide posts but are not rigid time and place dependent markers, and you might experience something of unity even when you are barely transcending as a new meditator, or if you are one of those rare individuals like Ekhart Tolle or Krishnamurti, you might just slip into unity without any preliminaries. Unity throws you off the path, the path dies, you are on your own, and there is no way to doubt it, if it is clear enough. By on your own, I mean there isn't anything else, even though you can refer to your body as 'me' and so forth. Everything that went before is seen through as having been as a fraud. Eventually you can look at it any way you like, as wholeness, as unity, as duality. Everything that was there before is still there except the relationship of thought with experience undergoes a profound shift, their roles are reversed so to speak, thought becoming secondary. Those words, duality, unity are not what is experienced, they are just ways you try to convey the potential of that experience to someone else. You cannot give it to them because they have it in spades already. They just do not realise what it can be for them so you try to light a fire under them to get them moving in the proper direction, which is not a direction at all. Basically you want their mind to completely stop, and eventually recognize what the significance of that is. There are things people can learn to do that seems to increase the probability that this will happen, like meditation. Buck has been expressing himself dualistically, so I was rubbing the grain the other way. So if you are in unity, and someone smashes an ice cream cone in your face, are you going to assume the universe has no parts? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Hi, Your post brought up a few questions for me: What gives you the idea that God Consciousness is the *last* stage of delusion? What does that even mean, and how would you know? Are you willing to share your deluded experiences of GC with me? Also, if Buck is the unified field, aren't you looking to him, and therefore, looking to it, when addressing him?Why can't duality occur within the wholeness of Unity, according to you? Thx(rhymes with Spx) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote: This is redundant Buck. You are the unified field, you cannot look to it. Are you by any chance in that last stage of delusion known as GC? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: My spirit looks to the Unified Field alone, My rock and refuge is Its throne. In all my fears, in all my straits, My soul on Its salvation waits. Trust It, ye meditators, in all your ways, Pour out your hearts before Its face; When helpers fail and foes invade, the Unified Field is our all-sufficient aid. Paraphrased excerpt from Psalm 62 by Isaac Watts: http://www.ccel.org/ccel/watts/psalmshymns.Ps.131.html
[FairfieldLife] RE: Re: 10 Ways Liars Use Words To Obscure the Truth
Nobody was challenging your I don't lie search, Barry. What did you think you had to prove? That's pretty funny. Getting a little nervous, are ya? BTW, I pointed out a day or so ago that I rarely tout my own honesty (contrary to the claims of some here) unless someone has first called it in question. These examples all fall right in that category, I believe. And interestingly enough, the questioning (accusations, really) in most of these cases came from folks I had previously caught lying (e.g., Barry, navashok, Curtis, Vaj, Nabby). ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: Ah, the patented Steinian Nitpick Lie. :-) Now Judy's going to pretend that 41 instances of I don't lie don't add up to a declaration of I never lie. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/msearch?date=anyDM=DD=DY=DM2=DD2=DY2=AM=containsAT=authfriendSM=containsST=MM=containsMT=%22I+don%27t+lie%22charset=UTF-8 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/msearch?date=anyDM=DD=DY=DM2=DD2=DY2=AM=containsAT=authfriendSM=containsST=MM=containsMT=%22I+don%27t+lie%22charset=UTF-8 Since I belatedly realized that this search is done in the old Yahoo interface and that possibly not everyone can see it, here are a few highlights: Oct 5, 2013, in message #359820 I don't lie or twist or reshuffle. Aug 13, 2013, in message #353409 I'm not the Queen of anything, but as you know, Nabby, I don't lie Aug 13, 2013, in message #353336 Plus which, they know I don't lie, and they know you *do* lie. Feb 12, 2013, in message #335232 Um, no, it's because they know I don't lie. Jan 26, 2013, in message #333579 I don't lie, and I deny only what is not true. Mar 12, 2012, in message #306217 Oops, no, Raunchy and I don't lie. Mar 1, 2012, in message #305356 There are no lies in the paragraph. I sometimes make mistakes, but I don't lie. Jan 9, 2012, in message #301381 I'm tough, but I'm pretty fair; I don't lie; I usually check my facts; and I rarely make gratuitous attacks. Nor do I dump nastily on posters who respectfully and sincerely say things I don't agree with. Oct 31, 2011, in message #293675 Vaj has never caught me in a lie, for the simple reason that I don't lie. Jul 12, 2011, in message #282357 Since Judy doesn't lie, it's not possible for her to be lying *again*. Vaj knows I don't lie. Apr 11, 2011, in message #274245 Whatever my other faults may be, I don't lie. Oct 31, 2010, in message #260625 I don't lie. I'm not a hypocrite. Oct 11, 2010, in message #259089 As you and Vaj well know, I don't lie. Jan 26, 2010, in message #239742 I don't lie about Barry. It's his lies that create the battle. Jan 3, 2009, in message #203765 In contrast, I don't lie, and I do my damndest to be fair. Jan 3, 2009, in message #203746 Vaj knows I don't lie, so his comment above is itself a lie. Aug 17, 2008, in message #187141 Funny thing is, nobody has ever caught me in a lie in any Internet forum. You know why? It's because there isn't anything to catch. I don't lie. Mar 15, 2008, in message #170153 However, I'm not duplicitous, mendacious, dishonest, or disingenuous. And I don't lie, either. Dec 3, 2007, in message #156651 As Vaj knows, I don't lie. I haven't lied before, and I wasn't lying here. Sep 25, 2007, in message #149814 Nope, I don't lie, Vaj. Don't project. May 22, 2006, in message #98982 BTW, I don't lie, nor do I rewrite history. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Judy Stein wrote: Barry wrote: Which of the people you have claimed were phonies, for instance, have ever said something as stupid and as *obviously* untrue as I never lie? YOU. Many times, pretending to quote me. YOU have said this, many times, I can't find one single instance in the archives of my ever having said those words here. Can you?
RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: Amish Girl Refuses Chemotheraphy
Yes, CO was there and was her usual self. That woman has more empathy, for a wider range of people, than anyone I have ever known. It's completely unforced, like breathing. Quite remarkable. I wish I had some of it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: feste, I was doing a moveable feast yesterday! Thanksgiving lunch with my Mom and sister and her family then dinner with my half sister, my Dad and step Mom and that family. Today I am recuperating (-: After dinner we played a fun board game called Mexican Train Wreck. It's kind of a complicated dominoes that can be played by up to 7 people. Hope you all had a great time. Was CO there and in fine fettle? On Friday, November 29, 2013 9:38 AM, feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Share, make Google your friend! Missed you at the Thanksgiving dinner yesterday. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: This morning when I opened Yahoo there was a news story in the top five saying that the family was fleeing the country! Now when I went to find that story, it's gone! On Friday, November 29, 2013 6:24 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: The land of the free. Free to die because of religious beliefs? Fair enough. Plenty of belief systems refuse blood transfusions. I've known TMers who say they would refuse any sort of transplant because they don't want someone else's karma. In fact, I've known people who died because they chose alternative healthcare. Alternative to things that work it would seem. This is why I say natural selection works on the religious too. Not cruel at all, or at least no crueller than it is for you and me. Maybe if I'd read article That's a very cruel comment. I'm on the side of the parents. Since when does the state have the right to inflict chemotherapy on people who don't want it? The family has every right to choose an alternative method of treatment. This is supposed to be the land of the free. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: That's a very cruel comment. I'm on the side of the parents. Since when does the state have the right to inflict chemotherapy on people who don't want it? The family has every right to choose an alternative method of treatment. This is supposed to be the land of the free. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Yup, natural selection works on the religious too. Maybe they'll see the irony in that and stop being so silly. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote: But the State of Ohio wants her to continue the treatment. It appears to me that the girl and her family have the right to forego the treatment if that is their religious preference to do so. http://news.yahoo.com/ohio-amish-girl-cuts-off-contact-amid-chemo-161240343.html http://news.yahoo.com/ohio-amish-girl-cuts-off-contact-amid-chemo-161240343.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] What I Did Today
Driving back from my nephews from the freeway I could see the lines winding around Target. I avoid stores today. ;-) On 11/29/2013 08:32 AM, Share Long wrote: Richard, hope you all had a good Thanksgiving. Mom refuses to go near a shopping area today so we won't be going to Whole Foods which is located in Annapolis Town Center featuring Target and lots of upscale clothing stores like Brook Bros. and Anthropologie. I'll be ready for the looney bin if we stay in all day so I'm hoping to lure her to CVS or Walgreens (-:
[FairfieldLife] Want a cool cave to meditate in?
It's yours, for less than the cost of becoming a Raja. http://www.messynessychic.com/2013/11/29/for-sale-hand-carved-cave-cathe\ dral/ http://www.messynessychic.com/2013/11/29/for-sale-hand-carved-cave-cath\ edral/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Thanksgiving California Style
The niece and nephew with young children went elsewhere so it was kind of quiet at my sister's. But it was great for interesting conversations. My oldest nephew commented on that and I agreed. His daughters are my sister's oldest grandchildren. They're 21, 19 and 17. What is smokey egg dip? On Friday, November 29, 2013 11:09 AM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I picked the lemons to get them off the tree. There is a crop of very young lemons coming on. The lemons are very popular the rels make lemon bars and lemon pie with them. We had a small gathering, just my nephew, his wife, two sons, his dad and her brother. My nephew fixed an excellent turkey dinner. I sometimes take smokey egg dip but I didn't get enough forewarning to do that so I just picked up a spinach and an artichoke dip at the store as well as some sourdough baguettes to cut up and serve with them. The spinach dip is very popular with my two great nephews but the artichoke dip went over well too. The chain store does both dips very well so much so I think would be hard to make better ones from scratch. On 11/29/2013 08:43 AM, Share Long wrote: noozguru, that world's slowest Starbuck's made me smile. But nice to have a sunny day. Curious what all the lemons were for! When I first arrived in Annapolis it rained cats and dogs were 2 days straight and the traffic here is horrendous anyway. Adventures in the big, bad city (-: On Thursday, November 28, 2013 1:00 PM, bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote: So much for rain today (which was forecast). I was also fairly overdressed to sit out on this patio. I had not planned to stop at the world's slowest Starbucks but they did not appear that busy from the parking lot. I had gone to the store to pick up some supplies for hors d'oeuvres and decided to treat myself. And wouldn't you know it about as soon as I wanted to take a picture someone comes out the door. And after I got back I picked large bunch of lemons to take to my nephew's who is hosting today. Happy Turkey (or tofurky) Day!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Thanksgiving California Style
Smokey egg dip from the original recipe in the 1963 Better Homes and Gardens (where my sister got it): http://www.thevintagebazaar.com/blog/2011/12/19/vintage-recipes-harvey-wallbanger-smoky-egg-dip/ Nabisco used to make a bacon flavored cracker that went great with it. On 11/29/2013 09:41 AM, Share Long wrote: The niece and nephew with young children went elsewhere so it was kind of quiet at my sister's. But it was great for interesting conversations. My oldest nephew commented on that and I agreed. His daughters are my sister's oldest grandchildren. They're 21, 19 and 17. What is smokey egg dip? On Friday, November 29, 2013 11:09 AM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I picked the lemons to get them off the tree. There is a crop of very young lemons coming on. The lemons are very popular the rels make lemon bars and lemon pie with them. We had a small gathering, just my nephew, his wife, two sons, his dad and her brother. My nephew fixed an excellent turkey dinner. I sometimes take smokey egg dip but I didn't get enough forewarning to do that so I just picked up a spinach and an artichoke dip at the store as well as some sourdough baguettes to cut up and serve with them. The spinach dip is very popular with my two great nephews but the artichoke dip went over well too. The chain store does both dips very well so much so I think would be hard to make better ones from scratch. On 11/29/2013 08:43 AM, Share Long wrote: noozguru, that world's slowest Starbuck's made me smile. But nice to have a sunny day. Curious what all the lemons were for! When I first arrived in Annapolis it rained cats and dogs were 2 days straight and the traffic here is horrendous anyway. Adventures in the big, bad city (-: On Thursday, November 28, 2013 1:00 PM, bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net mailto:noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote: So much for rain today (which was forecast). I was also fairly overdressed to sit out on this patio. I had not planned to stop at the world's slowest Starbucks but they did not appear that busy from the parking lot. I had gone to the store to pick up some supplies for hors d'oeuvres and decided to treat myself. And wouldn't you know it about as soon as I wanted to take a picture someone comes out the door. And after I got back I picked large bunch of lemons to take to my nephew's who is hosting today. Happy Turkey (or tofurky) Day!
[FairfieldLife] RE: 00000000, right
Wow, you could accidentally put a coffee mug on the keyboard and off we all go to the next world! I remember that the systems monitoring Russian missile launches mistakenly thought the west was under attack twice with ICBMs actually on the way. And Ronald Reagan's escape plane took off twice without him! LOL. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: That's eight zeros above, not . is what you say when you learn that the launch codes to much of America's nuclear arsenal were set to for many years during the Cold War to eight zeros. Makes you feel all warm and comfy knowing that, doesn't it? :-) http://gizmodo.com/for-20-years-the-nuclear-launch-code-at-us-minuteman-si-1473483587 http://gizmodo.com/for-20-years-the-nuclear-launch-code-at-us-minuteman-si-1473483587 So to recap, for around 20 years, the Strategic Air Command went out of their way to make launching a nuclear missile as easy, and quick, as possible.
[FairfieldLife] My Thanksgiving Movie
Definitely rated NOT FOR BUCK but quite a strange movie. It's 13/13/13 by Asylum of Sharknado fame and available in HD on Netflix. It's a horror film about the 13th month which occurs because we weren't supposed to have leap years. What happens is everyone goes crazy except for people who were born on February 29th. Rated not for Buck due to excessive violence and use of the F word (they must have set a new record). It's a direct to video production for Asylum who often do schlock films for Syfy. This one would have wound up being a succession of bleep if shown on Syfy. Dark movie but in many ways the craziness was hilarious and you need a taste cheesy horror flims. http://movies.netflix.com/WiMovie/13_13_13/70285997
Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: Amish Girl Refuses Chemotheraphy
I know what you mean. Me too. She's an amazing soul. And fun at the same time! On Friday, November 29, 2013 11:09 AM, feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Yes, CO was there and was her usual self. That woman has more empathy, for a wider range of people, than anyone I have ever known. It's completely unforced, like breathing. Quite remarkable. I wish I had some of it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: feste, I was doing a moveable feast yesterday! Thanksgiving lunch with my Mom and sister and her family then dinner with my half sister, my Dad and step Mom and that family. Today I am recuperating (-: After dinner we played a fun board game called Mexican Train Wreck. It's kind of a complicated dominoes that can be played by up to 7 people. Hope you all had a great time. Was CO there and in fine fettle? On Friday, November 29, 2013 9:38 AM, feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Share, make Google your friend! Missed you at the Thanksgiving dinner yesterday. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: This morning when I opened Yahoo there was a news story in the top five saying that the family was fleeing the country! Now when I went to find that story, it's gone! On Friday, November 29, 2013 6:24 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: The land of the free. Free to die because of religious beliefs? Fair enough. Plenty of belief systems refuse blood transfusions. I've known TMers who say they would refuse any sort of transplant because they don't want someone else's karma. In fact, I've known people who died because they chose alternative healthcare. Alternative to things that work it would seem. This is why I say natural selection works on the religious too. Not cruel at all, or at least no crueller than it is for you and me. Maybe if I'd read article That's a very cruel comment. I'm on the side of the parents. Since when does the state have the right to inflict chemotherapy on people who don't want it? The family has every right to choose an alternative method of treatment. This is supposed to be the land of the free. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: That's a very cruel comment. I'm on the side of the parents. Since when does the state have the right to inflict chemotherapy on people who don't want it? The family has every right to choose an alternative method of treatment. This is supposed to be the land of the free. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Yup, natural selection works on the religious too. Maybe they'll see the irony in that and stop being so silly. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote: But the State of Ohio wants her to continue the treatment. It appears to me that the girl and her family have the right to forego the treatment if that is their religious preference to do so. http://news.yahoo.com/ohio-amish-girl-cuts-off-contact-amid-chemo-161240343.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] What I Did Today
noozguru, do you mean you spent the night and saw the lines this morning? Or were the lines forming last night?! On Friday, November 29, 2013 11:11 AM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Driving back from my nephews from the freeway I could see the lines winding around Target. I avoid stores today. ;-) On 11/29/2013 08:32 AM, Share Long wrote: Richard, hope you all had a good Thanksgiving. Mom refuses to go near a shopping area today so we won't be going to Whole Foods which is located in Annapolis Town Center featuring Target and lots of upscale clothing stores like Brook Bros. and Anthropologie. I'll be ready for the looney bin if we stay in all day so I'm hoping to lure her to CVS or Walgreens (-:
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: 00000000, right
I don't know why I find that kind of funny, that we could all be blown to smithereens because someone spilled coffee on a keyboard! Obviously too much turkey has taken over my brain! Speaking of food, at my half sister's last night, a neighbor brought over little goblets of pumpkin bread pudding! Bread pudding is my favorite dessert so I was in 7th heaven. On Friday, November 29, 2013 11:52 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Wow, you could accidentally put a coffee mug on the keyboard and off we all go to the next world! I remember that the systems monitoring Russian missile launches mistakenly thought the west was under attack twice with ICBMs actually on the way. And Ronald Reagan's escape plane took off twice without him! LOL. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: That's eight zeros above, not . is what you say when you learn that the launch codes to much of America's nuclear arsenal were set to for many years during the Cold War to eight zeros. Makes you feel all warm and comfy knowing that, doesn't it? :-) http://gizmodo.com/for-20-years-the-nuclear-launch-code-at-us-minuteman-si-1473483587 So to recap, for around 20 years, the Strategic Air Command went out of their way to make launching a nuclear missile as easy, and quick, as possible.
RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: 00000000, right
The way you state half sister is so odd to me. Yes, I understand the genetic aspect, but from a relational standpoint, it is just so odd to me. Did you just meet her or have you known her for a long time? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: I don't know why I find that kind of funny, that we could all be blown to smithereens because someone spilled coffee on a keyboard! Obviously too much turkey has taken over my brain! Speaking of food, at my half sister's last night, a neighbor brought over little goblets of pumpkin bread pudding! Bread pudding is my favorite dessert so I was in 7th heaven. On Friday, November 29, 2013 11:52 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Wow, you could accidentally put a coffee mug on the keyboard and off we all go to the next world! I remember that the systems monitoring Russian missile launches mistakenly thought the west was under attack twice with ICBMs actually on the way. And Ronald Reagan's escape plane took off twice without him! LOL. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: That's eight zeros above, not . is what you say when you learn that the launch codes to much of America's nuclear arsenal were set to for many years during the Cold War to eight zeros. Makes you feel all warm and comfy knowing that, doesn't it? :-) http://gizmodo.com/for-20-years-the-nuclear-launch-code-at-us-minuteman-si-1473483587 http://gizmodo.com/for-20-years-the-nuclear-launch-code-at-us-minuteman-si-1473483587 So to recap, for around 20 years, the Strategic Air Command went out of their way to make launching a nuclear missile as easy, and quick, as possible.
Re: [FairfieldLife] What I Did Today
Last night on my way back home. My nephew only lives about 35 miles away. His dad and mom moved into an apartment at a retirement complex and their unit is literally right behind my nephew's fence. Both his dad and mom were sick but his dad felt well enough to come over for dinner. On 11/29/2013 10:28 AM, Share Long wrote: noozguru, do you mean you spent the night and saw the lines this morning? Or were the lines forming last night?! On Friday, November 29, 2013 11:11 AM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Driving back from my nephews from the freeway I could see the lines winding around Target. I avoid stores today. ;-) On 11/29/2013 08:32 AM, Share Long wrote: Richard, hope you all had a good Thanksgiving. Mom refuses to go near a shopping area today so we won't be going to Whole Foods which is located in Annapolis Town Center featuring Target and lots of upscale clothing stores like Brook Bros. and Anthropologie. I'll be ready for the looney bin if we stay in all day so I'm hoping to lure her to CVS or Walgreens (-:
RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Thanksgiving - Pope Francis tells the truth about unbridled capitalism
Should they rename the Dome to Womens' Dome? Or are the two terms used interchangeably? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Oy, Buck, I prefer to think of myself as a woman rather than a lady! Lady connotes, well never mind what it connotes. I am woman, hear me roar. On Wednesday, November 27, 2013 10:42 PM, dhamiltony2k5@... dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: We have 'ladies' in the TM movement. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote: Interview: Sister Louise Akers Challenges the Church Patriarchy - Sun Magazine http://thesunmagazine.org/issues/455/sisterhood http://thesunmagazine.org/issues/455/sisterhood ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote: Absolutely! What a clever idea! Ah ha ha...yes, yes, yes...this will make good dinner conversation for you. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: CHAPTER ONE THE MOVEMENT’S MISSIONARY TRANSFORMATION CHAPTER ONE THE Movement’S MISSIONARY TRANSFORMATION [19] I. A Movement WHICH GOES FORTH [20-24] Taking the first step, being involved and supportive, bearing fruit and rejoicing [24] II. PASTORAL ACTIVITY AND CONVERSION [25-33] An ecclesial renewal which cannot be deferred [27-33] III. FROM THE HEART OF THE GOSPEL [34-39] IV. A MISSION EMBODIED WITHIN HUMAN LIMITS [40-45] V. A MOTHER WITH AN OPEN HEART [46-49] http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/francesco/apost_exhortations/documents/papa-francesco_esortazione-ap_20131124_evangelii-gaudium_en.html#No_to_an_economy_of_exclusion http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/francesco/apost_exhortations/documents/papa-francesco_esortazione-ap_20131124_evangelii-gaudium_en.html#No_to_an_economy_of_exclusion ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: His Holiness Nader Ram might take some pages for our TM movement from the Pope Frances play book. Yep, on becoming the universal movement of the Unified Field. The Popular Spiritual Liberation Front. Like chapter I reads, ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: I like this guy - He tells the truth, straight up. Even as the American Dream becomes less obtainable for most here, he points out, plainly, that the rest of the world, is suffering, far more than we do in the West; wars are waged simply for economic gain, rampant consumerism is dehumanizing everyone, and 'trickle down economics' is a naive idea, at best, and clearly does not work. http://www.businessinsider.com/the-pope-on-the-financial-system-inequality-money-2013-11 http://www.businessinsider.com/the-pope-on-the-financial-system-inequality-money-2013-11
Re: [FairfieldLife] 00000000, right
OTOH, that might be the LAST password anyone would have tried. Reminds me the web site for the local paper had an article on the Orwellian CCTV system the police put in with a picture of the command center. I noticed that there was a post-it at the top of one of the monitors. Zoomed in on the picture and there was the password! :-D On 11/29/2013 08:41 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: That's eight zeros above, not . is what you say when you learn that the launch codes to much of America's nuclear arsenal were set to for many years during the Cold War to eight zeros. Makes you feel all warm and comfy knowing that, doesn't it? :-) http://gizmodo.com/for-20-years-the-nuclear-launch-code-at-us-minuteman-si-1473483587 So to recap, for around 20 years, the Strategic Air Command went out of their way to make launching a nuclear missile as easy, and quick, as possible.
RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: 00000000, right
Ramping up for a Mean Girl attack ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote: The way you state half sister is so odd to me. Yes, I understand the genetic aspect, but from a relational standpoint, it is just so odd to me. Did you just meet her or have you known her for a long time? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: I don't know why I find that kind of funny, that we could all be blown to smithereens because someone spilled coffee on a keyboard! Obviously too much turkey has taken over my brain! Speaking of food, at my half sister's last night, a neighbor brought over little goblets of pumpkin bread pudding! Bread pudding is my favorite dessert so I was in 7th heaven. On Friday, November 29, 2013 11:52 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Wow, you could accidentally put a coffee mug on the keyboard and off we all go to the next world! I remember that the systems monitoring Russian missile launches mistakenly thought the west was under attack twice with ICBMs actually on the way. And Ronald Reagan's escape plane took off twice without him! LOL. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: That's eight zeros above, not . is what you say when you learn that the launch codes to much of America's nuclear arsenal were set to for many years during the Cold War to eight zeros. Makes you feel all warm and comfy knowing that, doesn't it? :-) http://gizmodo.com/for-20-years-the-nuclear-launch-code-at-us-minuteman-si-1473483587 http://gizmodo.com/for-20-years-the-nuclear-launch-code-at-us-minuteman-si-1473483587 So to recap, for around 20 years, the Strategic Air Command went out of their way to make launching a nuclear missile as easy, and quick, as possible.
RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: 00000000, right
Poor, helpless Share. She is Lady, hear her squeak... Feste Sir Galahads: Ramping up for a Mean Girl attack ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote: The way you state half sister is so odd to me. Yes, I understand the genetic aspect, but from a relational standpoint, it is just so odd to me. Did you just meet her or have you known her for a long time? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: I don't know why I find that kind of funny, that we could all be blown to smithereens because someone spilled coffee on a keyboard! Obviously too much turkey has taken over my brain! Speaking of food, at my half sister's last night, a neighbor brought over little goblets of pumpkin bread pudding! Bread pudding is my favorite dessert so I was in 7th heaven. On Friday, November 29, 2013 11:52 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Wow, you could accidentally put a coffee mug on the keyboard and off we all go to the next world! I remember that the systems monitoring Russian missile launches mistakenly thought the west was under attack twice with ICBMs actually on the way. And Ronald Reagan's escape plane took off twice without him! LOL. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: That's eight zeros above, not . is what you say when you learn that the launch codes to much of America's nuclear arsenal were set to for many years during the Cold War to eight zeros. Makes you feel all warm and comfy knowing that, doesn't it? :-) http://gizmodo.com/for-20-years-the-nuclear-launch-code-at-us-minuteman-si-1473483587 http://gizmodo.com/for-20-years-the-nuclear-launch-code-at-us-minuteman-si-1473483587 So to recap, for around 20 years, the Strategic Air Command went out of their way to make launching a nuclear missile as easy, and quick, as possible.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: 10 Ways Liars Use Words To Obscure the Truth
It's not complicated: In one post Judy says the TM bijas are not the names of the Hindu gods. In the other post, she denies posting that the TM bija are not the names of the Hindu gods. So, which is it? Did Judy post that the TM bijas are not the names of the Hindu gods, or didn't she? It looks like to me that Judy posted that the TM bijas are not the names of the Hindu gods, so why would she deny posting that, when it's right there in the archives? From the archives: Judy posted: Richard is lying. I never said anything about the technique, whatever it is, or was. Nor did I say the bijas weren't nicknames of the deities (whatever nicknames means in this context). http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/364436 Judy posted: Just for example, the TM mantras are *not* the names of the Hindu gods. The Hindu gods have perfectly good names of their own. https://groups.google.com/forum/alt.meditation.transcendental On 11/28/2013 10:13 AM, emilymae...@yahoo.com wrote: Yes, they can Richard. That's what I don't understand and why I was asking. If you can't explain said allegation, why don't you let let it go? It appears to be taking up valuable space in your brain. You and Rita have a good day. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: It's not complicated: Judy posted both statements, both can't be true. On 11/27/2013 9:54 PM, emilymaenot@... mailto:emilymaenot@... wrote: Richard, seriously, I just don't understand what you are saying here. Instead of reposting and reposting the same thing, can you, in detail, explain how, based on the words in the two sentences in question, you are coming to said conclusion of Judy lying? If you are all bent out of shape about Judy, just objectively review the two statements and explain how the two sentences that you keep reposting proves a lie. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote: Well, I'm quoting it because you posted it. You're not doing a very good job of explaining what you meant. So, did you or did you not post this? Richard is lying. I never said anything about the technique, whatever it is, or was. Nor did I say the bijas weren't nicknames of the deities (whatever nicknames means in this context). http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/364436 Just for example, the TM mantras are *not* the names of the Hindu gods. The Hindu gods have perfectly good names of their own. https://groups.google.com/forum/alt.meditation.transcendental https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#%21topic/alt.meditation.transcendental/1bJzUyLPecQ P.S. This may be lost on you, but I'm pretty sure Barry and Share can understand what you posted. It looks to me like you are trying to wiggle out of owning your own words. Not that anyone cares what you say these days,anyway. Go figure. On 11/27/2013 3:50 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: I don't know why you keep quoting stuff that documents the fact that you were lying, but that's your problem. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote: The most reliable proof is to post the message number and the URL to the actual words, like when I posted your own words and the URL to see them, and you still called me a liar. Richard is lying. I never said anything about the technique, whatever it is, or was. Nor did I say the bijas weren't nicknames of the deities (whatever nicknames means in this context). http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/364436 ...the TM mantras are *not* the names of the Hindu gods. The Hindu gods have perfectly good names of their own. Subject: Re: do you ever repeat your mantra when you are asleep and dreaming? Author: Judy Stein Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental Date: Sat, Dec 17 2005 1:22 pm http://tinyurl.com/9gxse On 11/27/2013 9:11 AM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: *Hey, Barry, have a look at this. It's fascinating. * * Xeno wrote: * /*10 Ways Liars Use Words To Obscure the Truth*/ http://liespotting.com/liespotting-basics/words/ We are not face-to-face on FFL, it's all words, words, words. There are those here who make a big deal of their integrity. Perhaps that is a suspect trait. *Um, or perhaps not. /Legitimately/ suspect, that is.* Me, I think the most reliable way to tell if someone is a liar is whether there is documented evidence that they have lied. (That's why a functioning Search feature is so frightening to Barry.)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL Neo Mobile
Maybe I should rephrase what I said: Only a nerd would post to FFL, using Windows, Android or any other software, whether a PC, a tablet, or a phone. If you're using Google Android on your phone, wouldn't it make sense to view FFL using Google Chrome and Google Mail? Go figure. On 11/28/2013 11:05 AM, Bhairitu wrote: Windows Yahoo? Since when is Yahoo just Windows? It's a web site not peculiar to Windows at all. Why would I want to download emails just to look at FFL? You aren't making any sense, Richard. Go figure. On 11/28/2013 04:32 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote: Thanks for the screen shot. But, only a nerd would want to view Windows Yahoo on an Android phone when they could get the same messages using free Google Mail with a Chrome browser. Go figure. On 11/27/2013 4:32 PM, Bhairitu wrote: On 11/27/2013 12:53 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bhairitu wrote: Here you go. Remember most people will be reading on a smartphone a few inches from their face. As you see the message history is an option which can be selected. The first image was the start screen which has the banner. You can scroll down the messages as far as you want. Also the phone can be turned sideways for a wider display though shorter display (handy for ready Turqs hard return messages). You'll possibly have noticed that I have abandoned the hard returns as the Old Geezers Of Internet Tech They Are. :-) You got me looking at FFL on different formats, and so I noticed that the old style didn't work as well on most screens these days. So I changed. As opposed, one might say, to someone who doesn't like a new variety of tech because it doesn't allow her to keep arguing the same way she's been arguing for almost twenty years now. Just sayin'. :-) :-) :-) Problem I have is the new kids worshiping companies as gods like whatever they do is right. I had a long argument with Android developers that it might WELL be appropriate to put an exit in the menu if your app goes several layers (or Intents) deep. Each Intent is really like a little app in itself. To have to press the back key several times to exit is a bit rude. Most of the Google tech writing engineers seem to have limited experience in real world software development. Similarly developers raved over the new release of the game development platform Unity3D. The company felt compelled to make one extravagant demo of their new 2D library. Problem is there are really just a few things experienced developers needed to know to get up and running using it but wading through that extravagant demo to find those points was a bit overkill. But sure as hell don't criticize Unity3D over it as the cranky dweeb fans will get all over you. I suspect they will role out a very simple example eventually as had to do that with their 3D engine.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: 00000000, right
It's interesting to see the different approaches taken by the Mean Girls. Authfriend practices a kind of knee-jerk negativity that produces crude, nasty attacks. In respect of Share (and Barry), she is All Nasty, All the Time. It doesn't matter what these two write; the response is always the same. Any excuse to belittle, mock, and insult -- that's authfriend's MO. With Emily, it's a little different at first. It starts with the pretense that she doesn't understand or is trying to understand something that Share wrote. Emily likes to sound reasonable and sincere, carefully trying to disguise her hostility. This prepares the ground. It's a set up. Then when Share responds, Emily declares the response to be inadequate or shocking, and proceeds to plunge the knife in and twist it as much as she can. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Poor, helpless Share. She is Lady, hear her squeak... Feste Sir Galahads: Ramping up for a Mean Girl attack ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote: The way you state half sister is so odd to me. Yes, I understand the genetic aspect, but from a relational standpoint, it is just so odd to me. Did you just meet her or have you known her for a long time? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: I don't know why I find that kind of funny, that we could all be blown to smithereens because someone spilled coffee on a keyboard! Obviously too much turkey has taken over my brain! Speaking of food, at my half sister's last night, a neighbor brought over little goblets of pumpkin bread pudding! Bread pudding is my favorite dessert so I was in 7th heaven. On Friday, November 29, 2013 11:52 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Wow, you could accidentally put a coffee mug on the keyboard and off we all go to the next world! I remember that the systems monitoring Russian missile launches mistakenly thought the west was under attack twice with ICBMs actually on the way. And Ronald Reagan's escape plane took off twice without him! LOL. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: That's eight zeros above, not . is what you say when you learn that the launch codes to much of America's nuclear arsenal were set to for many years during the Cold War to eight zeros. Makes you feel all warm and comfy knowing that, doesn't it? :-) http://gizmodo.com/for-20-years-the-nuclear-launch-code-at-us-minuteman-si-1473483587 http://gizmodo.com/for-20-years-the-nuclear-launch-code-at-us-minuteman-si-1473483587 So to recap, for around 20 years, the Strategic Air Command went out of their way to make launching a nuclear missile as easy, and quick, as possible.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL Neo Mobile
Ahem! Reread time. The browser used in the screenshot was indeed Google Chrome on Android. Figure it out. Interesting thing on Linux (I don't read FFL on Windows) was that Chrome wouldn't let me insert the HTML code for the pictures. Firefox worked though. Now I think I'll port that app for Base64 encoding to Android so I can use it on the go. Should be easy since it is written in C# and I'll just compile on Xamarin with a couple changes for the Android interface. On 11/29/2013 11:44 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote: Maybe I should rephrase what I said: Only a nerd would post to FFL, using Windows, Android or any other software, whether a PC, a tablet, or a phone. If you're using Google Android on your phone, wouldn't it make sense to view FFL using Google Chrome and Google Mail? Go figure. On 11/28/2013 11:05 AM, Bhairitu wrote: Windows Yahoo? Since when is Yahoo just Windows? It's a web site not peculiar to Windows at all. Why would I want to download emails just to look at FFL? You aren't making any sense, Richard. Go figure. On 11/28/2013 04:32 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote: Thanks for the screen shot. But, only a nerd would want to view Windows Yahoo on an Android phone when they could get the same messages using free Google Mail with a Chrome browser. Go figure. On 11/27/2013 4:32 PM, Bhairitu wrote: On 11/27/2013 12:53 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bhairitu wrote: Here you go. Remember most people will be reading on a smartphone a few inches from their face. As you see the message history is an option which can be selected. The first image was the start screen which has the banner. You can scroll down the messages as far as you want. Also the phone can be turned sideways for a wider display though shorter display (handy for ready Turqs hard return messages). You'll possibly have noticed that I have abandoned the hard returns as the Old Geezers Of Internet Tech They Are. :-) You got me looking at FFL on different formats, and so I noticed that the old style didn't work as well on most screens these days. So I changed. As opposed, one might say, to someone who doesn't like a new variety of tech because it doesn't allow her to keep arguing the same way she's been arguing for almost twenty years now. Just sayin'. :-) :-) :-) Problem I have is the new kids worshiping companies as gods like whatever they do is right. I had a long argument with Android developers that it might WELL be appropriate to put an exit in the menu if your app goes several layers (or Intents) deep. Each Intent is really like a little app in itself. To have to press the back key several times to exit is a bit rude. Most of the Google tech writing engineers seem to have limited experience in real world software development. Similarly developers raved over the new release of the game development platform Unity3D. The company felt compelled to make one extravagant demo of their new 2D library. Problem is there are really just a few things experienced developers needed to know to get up and running using it but wading through that extravagant demo to find those points was a bit overkill. But sure as hell don't criticize Unity3D over it as the cranky dweeb fans will get all over you. I suspect they will role out a very simple example eventually as had to do that with their 3D engine.
[FairfieldLife] RE: A Meditator#39;s Thanksgiving
Re I think it is kind of like asymptotic lines, which approach each other but never meet, but eventually you get close enough to see there is an end, closure, but you can never quite get there.: St Gregory of Nyssa (fourth century) questioned classical antiquity's static take on perfection and claimed that the Christian life is one of never-ending growth - a movement 'from glory to glory' - which would continue ad infinitum in the next life. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote: Clarity starts with unity, and once you start to ramp down on unity and really start to let go and forget about the whole benchmark thing, you have that 'Brahman consciousness' thing. Whatever word you use, you really don't need to use that word, because it will never do it justice. Words that seem to imply grandeur and magnificence are particularly misleading because they ramp up expectation for an experience which is not possible to anticipate. If somebody asks you of course, you have to make up stuff to explain, or use traditional vehicles of explanation, which somebody else made up. I think it is kind of like asymptotic lines, which approach each other but never meet, but eventually you get close enough to see there is an end, closure, but you can never quite get there, there is always some little picayune insight that one might get about some aspect of experience or other, but now it is just a tiny little faded jewel in a much larger setting, and that larger setting is utterly ordinary, just life as it was, and is, and you don't think much about what will be, since that is what is always happening, just being is all that is happening. If you remember something from the past, that experience of remembering is now, and if you think of a potential future state, that imagining is now, and these imaginings are just thoughts passing in the mind, the substance of those thoughts is not what is real, though at another time, you may have an experience that is related to the thought in your memory. If you read a weather report that says it will be hot tomorrow, and the next day you experience discomfort from heat, there is a relationship there, but the experience that we call heat is not the same as the word 'heat', which can only encapsulate that experience in a rather simplistic way as a mental concept. One person might feel comfortable in that heat; another might be miserable. Thought is a two dimensional replication of three dimensional experience. So while thought can be very valuable for life, something is always missing if your life is lived in the world of thought, and so one's thoughts are always to a lesser or greater extent, a lie. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote: Re This is redundant Buck. You are the unified field, you cannot look to it. Are you by any chance in that last stage of delusion known as GC?: Excellent comment! But is the next level, Unity Consciousness, the last stage? Isn't Brahman Consciousness then the new goal? Jesus! Does it never end? I'm exhausted. I think I'll settle for the deep-sleep state. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote: This is redundant Buck. You are the unified field, you cannot look to it. Are you by any chance in that last stage of delusion known as GC? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: My spirit looks to the Unified Field alone, My rock and refuge is Its throne. In all my fears, in all my straits, My soul on Its salvation waits. Trust It, ye meditators, in all your ways, Pour out your hearts before Its face; When helpers fail and foes invade, the Unified Field is our all-sufficient aid. Paraphrased excerpt from Psalm 62 by Isaac Watts: http://www.ccel.org/ccel/watts/psalmshymns.Ps.131.html http://www.ccel.org/ccel/watts/psalmshymns.Ps.131.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] My Thanksgiving Movie
Of course if you want to watch society actually go crazy just watch some of the today's news videos of Black Friday. HOWEVER, I disagree with those who feel if the economy goes south we'll see the same thing. Hurricane Sandy disapproved that and when the economy tanks there will still be time to help people learn to survive without eating each other. On 11/29/2013 09:56 AM, Bhairitu wrote: Definitely rated NOT FOR BUCK but quite a strange movie. It's 13/13/13 by Asylum of Sharknado fame and available in HD on Netflix. It's a horror film about the 13th month which occurs because we weren't supposed to have leap years. What happens is everyone goes crazy except for people who were born on February 29th. Rated not for Buck due to excessive violence and use of the F word (they must have set a new record). It's a direct to video production for Asylum who often do schlock films for Syfy. This one would have wound up being a succession of bleep if shown on Syfy. Dark movie but in many ways the craziness was hilarious and you need a taste cheesy horror flims. http://movies.netflix.com/WiMovie/13_13_13/70285997
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Amish Girl Refuses Chemotheraphy
I've never heard of chemo being forced on people but I'm sure there are some naive do gooders who want to do so and big pharma loves to make all that money off cancer. Heaven forbid if university researchers prove that spices many people have in their kitchen cupboards can cure cancer. On 11/28/2013 03:02 PM, feste37 wrote: That's a very cruel comment. I'm on the side of the parents. Since when does the state have the right to inflict chemotherapy on people who don't want it? The family has every right to choose an alternative method of treatment. This is supposed to be the land of the free. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Yup, natural selection works on the religious too. Maybe they'll see the irony in that and stop being so silly. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote: But the State of Ohio wants her to continue the treatment. It appears to me that the girl and her family have the right to forego the treatment if that is their religious preference to do so. http://news.yahoo.com/ohio-amish-girl-cuts-off-contact-amid-chemo-161240343.html
RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Thanksgiving - Pope Francis tells the truth about unbridled capitalism
The Domes. The local colloquial works as Men's Dome and the “Ladies Dome”. Even within deep TM it is becoming more and more quaint as time goes along the thing of calling it the Ladies Dome. The progressive element of the meditating community say, the “Womens' Dome”. The more insular old-style strict preservationist-element of the meditating community refer to it still as the “Ladies Dome”, as some matter of cultural tradition either as habit or as they try to enforce it. Times do change though. Usage mostly depends which part of the meditating community you're talking with. Navigating that is part of getting along in the meditating community. Mostly we are all very nice with each other if we happen to be at the same table with each other and we will just dial the dissonance down with each other. The real taliban of the movement don't come to town much. Really there are not too many of them now. Mostly we just run in to the “ladies” thing in their e-mail announcements coming from the middle. -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote: Should they rename the Dome to Womens' Dome? Or are the two terms used interchangeably? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Oy, Buck, I prefer to think of myself as a woman rather than a lady! Lady connotes, well never mind what it connotes. I am woman, hear me roar. On Wednesday, November 27, 2013 10:42 PM, Buck. Buck wrote: We have 'ladies' in the TM movement. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote: Interview: Sister Louise Akers Challenges the Church Patriarchy - Sun Magazine http://thesunmagazine.org/issues/455/sisterhood http://thesunmagazine.org/issues/455/sisterhood ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote: Absolutely! What a clever idea! Ah ha ha...yes, yes, yes...this will make good dinner conversation for you. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: CHAPTER ONE THE MOVEMENT’S MISSIONARY TRANSFORMATION CHAPTER ONE THE Movement’S MISSIONARY TRANSFORMATION [19] I. A Movement WHICH GOES FORTH [20-24] Taking the first step, being involved and supportive, bearing fruit and rejoicing [24] II. PASTORAL ACTIVITY AND CONVERSION [25-33] An ecclesial renewal which cannot be deferred [27-33] III. FROM THE HEART OF THE GOSPEL [34-39] IV. A MISSION EMBODIED WITHIN HUMAN LIMITS [40-45] V. A MOTHER WITH AN OPEN HEART [46-49] http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/francesco/apost_exhortations/documents/papa-francesco_esortazione-ap_20131124_evangelii-gaudium_en.html#No_to_an_economy_of_exclusion http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/francesco/apost_exhortations/documents/papa-francesco_esortazione-ap_20131124_evangelii-gaudium_en.html#No_to_an_economy_of_exclusion ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: His Holiness Nader Ram might take some pages for our TM movement from the Pope Frances play book. Yep, on becoming the universal movement of the Unified Field. The Popular Spiritual Liberation Front. Like chapter I reads, ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: I like this guy - He tells the truth, straight up. Even as the American Dream becomes less obtainable for most here, he points out, plainly, that the rest of the world, is suffering, far more than we do in the West; wars are waged simply for economic gain, rampant consumerism is dehumanizing everyone, and 'trickle down economics' is a naive idea, at best, and clearly does not work. http://www.businessinsider.com/the-pope-on-the-financial-system-inequality-money-2013-11 http://www.businessinsider.com/the-pope-on-the-financial-system-inequality-money-2013-11
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: 00000000, right
And it's all just completely gratuitous, right, Feste? Feste pronounced: It's interesting to see the different approaches taken by the Mean Girls. (You do realize Mean Girls is a name Barry dreamed up for his critics, don't you?) Authfriend practices a kind of knee- jerk negativity that produces crude, nasty attacks. In respect of Share (and Barry), she is All Nasty, All the Time. It doesn't matter what these two write; the response is always the same. Any excuse to belittle, mock, and insult -- that's authfriend's MO. Better than being a lying phony, IMHO.
[FairfieldLife] Re: A Meditator's Thanksgiving
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius wrote: I think it is kind of like asymptotic lines, which approach each other but never meet, but eventually you get close enough to see there is an end, closure, but you can never quite get there... From an old Firesign Theatre album, the voice reading out the signs that a character in one of their audio plays passes on a Southern California highway: Antelope Freeway, 1 mile Antelope Freeway, 1/2 mile Antelope Freeway, 1/4 mile Antelope Freeway, 1/8 mile Antelope Freeway, 1/16 mile Antelope Freeway, 1/32 mile Antelope Freeway, 1/64 mile... :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: 00000000, right
This post has all the earmarks of you sitting at your computer in your home office, and when the 'ding' goes off alerting an email, then you respond within three minutes using the same computer. LoL! On 11/29/2013 1:14 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: *Poor, helpless Share. She is Lady, hear her squeak...* * Feste Sir Galahads: * Ramping up for a Mean Girl attack ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote: The way you state half sister is so odd to me. Yes, I understand the genetic aspect, but from a relational standpoint, it is just so odd to me. Did you just meet her or have you known her for a long time? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: I don't know why I find that kind of funny, that we could all be blown to smithereens because someone spilled coffee on a keyboard! Obviously too much turkey has taken over my brain! Speaking of food, at my half sister's last night, a neighbor brought over little goblets of pumpkin bread pudding! Bread pudding is my favorite dessert so I was in 7th heaven. On Friday, November 29, 2013 11:52 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Wow, you could accidentally put a coffee mug on the keyboard and off we all go to the next world! I remember that the systems monitoring Russian missile launches mistakenly thought the west was under attack twice with ICBMs actually on the way. And Ronald Reagan's escape plane took off twice without him! LOL. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: That's eight zeros above, not . is what you say when you learn that the launch codes to much of America's nuclear arsenal were set to for many years during the Cold War to eight zeros. Makes you feel all warm and comfy knowing that, doesn't it? :-) http://gizmodo.com/for-20-years-the-nuclear-launch-code-at-us-minuteman-si-1473483587 So to recap, for around 20 years, the Strategic Air Command went out of their way to make launching a nuclear missile as easy, and quick, as possible.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: Amish Girl Refuses Chemotheraphy
This NOT a conference call, Mr. Obama - Angela Merkel On 11/29/2013 10:01 AM, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com wrote: I have used the Google. - former President G. W. Bush ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Share, make Google your friend! Missed you at the Thanksgiving dinner yesterday. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: This morning when I opened Yahoo there was a news story in the top five saying that the family was fleeing the country! Now when I went to find that story, it's gone! On Friday, November 29, 2013 6:24 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: The land of the free. Free to die because of religious beliefs? Fair enough. Plenty of belief systems refuse blood transfusions. I've known TMers who say they would refuse any sort of transplant because they don't want someone else's karma. In fact, I've known people who died because they chose alternative healthcare. Alternative to things that work it would seem. This is why I say natural selection works on the religious too. Not cruel at all, or at least no crueller than it is for you and me. Maybe if I'd read article That's a very cruel comment. I'm on the side of the parents. Since when does the state have the right to inflict chemotherapy on people who don't want it? The family has every right to choose an alternative method of treatment. This is supposed to be the land of the free. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: That's a very cruel comment. I'm on the side of the parents. Since when does the state have the right to inflict chemotherapy on people who don't want it? The family has every right to choose an alternative method of treatment. This is supposed to be the land of the free. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Yup, natural selection works on the religious too. Maybe they'll see the irony in that and stop being so silly. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote: But the State of Ohio wants her to continue the treatment. It appears to me that the girl and her family have the right to forego the treatment if that is their religious preference to do so. http://news.yahoo.com/ohio-amish-girl-cuts-off-contact-amid-chemo-161240343.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Amish Girl Refuses Chemotheraphy
Tumeric! On Friday, November 29, 2013 2:01 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I've never heard of chemo being forced on people but I'm sure there are some naive do gooders who want to do so and big pharma loves to make all that money off cancer. Heaven forbid if university researchers prove that spices many people have in their kitchen cupboards can cure cancer. On 11/28/2013 03:02 PM, feste37 wrote: That's a very cruel comment. I'm on the side of the parents. Since when does the state have the right to inflict chemotherapy on people who don't want it? The family has every right to choose an alternative method of treatment. This is supposed to be the land of the free. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Yup, natural selection works on the religious too. Maybe they'll see the irony in that and stop being so silly. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote: But the State of Ohio wants her to continue the treatment. It appears to me that the girl and her family have the right to forego the treatment if that is their religious preference to do so. http://news.yahoo.com/ohio-amish-girl-cuts-off-contact-amid-chemo-161240343.html
RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Amish Girl Refuses Chemotheraphy
Share, Turmeric can aggravate the pitta dosha on the pitta types. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Tumeric! On Friday, November 29, 2013 2:01 PM, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: I've never heard of chemo being forced on people but I'm sure there are some naive do gooders who want to do so and big pharma loves to make all that money off cancer. Heaven forbid if university researchers prove that spices many people have in their kitchen cupboards can cure cancer. On 11/28/2013 03:02 PM, feste37 wrote: That's a very cruel comment. I'm on the side of the parents. Since when does the state have the right to inflict chemotherapy on people who don't want it? The family has every right to choose an alternative method of treatment. This is supposed to be the land of the free. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Yup, natural selection works on the religious too. Maybe they'll see the irony in that and stop being so silly. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... wrote: But the State of Ohio wants her to continue the treatment. It appears to me that the girl and her family have the right to forego the treatment if that is their religious preference to do so. http://news.yahoo.com/ohio-amish-girl-cuts-off-contact-amid-chemo-161240343.html http://news.yahoo.com/ohio-amish-girl-cuts-off-contact-amid-chemo-161240343.html
Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Amish Girl Refuses Chemotheraphy
But John, they all say tumeric's good for reducing inflammation! On Friday, November 29, 2013 2:45 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com jr_...@yahoo.com wrote: Share, Turmeric can aggravate the pitta dosha on the pitta types. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Tumeric! On Friday, November 29, 2013 2:01 PM, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: I've never heard of chemo being forced on people but I'm sure there are some naive do gooders who want to do so and big pharma loves to make all that money off cancer. Heaven forbid if university researchers prove that spices many people have in their kitchen cupboards can cure cancer. On 11/28/2013 03:02 PM, feste37 wrote: That's a very cruel comment. I'm on the side of the parents. Since when does the state have the right to inflict chemotherapy on people who don't want it? The family has every right to choose an alternative method of treatment. This is supposed to be the land of the free. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Yup, natural selection works on the religious too. Maybe they'll see the irony in that and stop being so silly. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote: But the State of Ohio wants her to continue the treatment. It appears to me that the girl and her family have the right to forego the treatment if that is their religious preference to do so. http://news.yahoo.com/ohio-amish-girl-cuts-off-contact-amid-chemo-161240343.html
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: 00000000, right
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: It's interesting to see the different approaches taken by the Mean Girls. Authfriend practices a kind of knee-jerk negativity that produces crude, nasty attacks. In respect of Share (and Barry), she is All Nasty, All the Time. It doesn't matter what these two write; the response is always the same. Any excuse to belittle, mock, and insult -- that's authfriend's MO. With Emily, it's a little different at first. It starts with the pretense that she doesn't understand or is trying to understand something that Share wrote. No pretense. I *am* trying to understand by asking her to explain what she is saying or thinking or feeling when she says it. Sometimes I am asking her to provide a larger context for her comments because a lot of what she says doesn't make sense to me. I've stated that many, many, times. Objectively, human behavior does interest me, no doubt, and I truly am a sincerely curious sort of person. Emily likes to sound reasonable and sincere, carefully trying to disguise her hostility. I am *sounding* that way because I always give everyone the benefit of the doubt and I am often reasonable and usually sincere, albeit, sometimes within a context or a writing style that you don't seem to pick up on, given this statement of yours. I am not a hostile person and I don't hold onto or maintain hostility on this forum towards anyone ever, really. If I did, I wouldn't stay here. I have certain triggers - Share's mean streak is one of them, when it pops up. I respond to what shows up in the moment, or as a result of watching the trajectory of a conversation unfold. I try to keep a larger picture in mind almost always, even as I may descend into the energy and feeling of a thread as it resonates within me. I may not always succeed in the heat of the moment (in keeping the larger picture at the forefront), but behind the scenes, in my own life, I always go through a process of lessons learned, if you will. I am a human being and I *believe* in the concepts of accountability and humility, for example. This prepares the ground. It's a set up. Then when Share responds, Emily declares the response to be inadequate or shocking, and proceeds to plunge the knife in and twist it as much as she can. Jesus Christ Feste, I have been shocked by Share on many occasions, it's true, and she has deferred and refused to take accountability for her words, or even explain them, on even more occasions. I have also apologized more times and copped to my own actions more than many here and I have stated many times that I always check what I might say to others against my self - I am not a saint nor do I pretend to be. Share has a record of zero on that front. I hold no animosity towards her; I am just objectively stating what I have noticed from her posts here. To attribute these kinds of violent images to me says a lot about you, not me. Curiously, Share, do you agree with what Feste says here about me? Is this how you have experienced me on this forum? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Poor, helpless Share. She is Lady, hear her squeak... Feste Sir Galahads: Ramping up for a Mean Girl attack ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote: The way you state half sister is so odd to me. Yes, I understand the genetic aspect, but from a relational standpoint, it is just so odd to me. Did you just meet her or have you known her for a long time? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: I don't know why I find that kind of funny, that we could all be blown to smithereens because someone spilled coffee on a keyboard! Obviously too much turkey has taken over my brain! Speaking of food, at my half sister's last night, a neighbor brought over little goblets of pumpkin bread pudding! Bread pudding is my favorite dessert so I was in 7th heaven. On Friday, November 29, 2013 11:52 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Wow, you could accidentally put a coffee mug on the keyboard and off we all go to the next world! I remember that the systems monitoring Russian missile launches mistakenly thought the west was under attack twice with ICBMs actually on the way. And Ronald Reagan's escape plane took off twice without him! LOL. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: That's eight zeros above, not . is what you say when you learn that the launch codes to much of America's nuclear arsenal were set to for many years during the Cold War to eight zeros. Makes you feel all warm and comfy knowing that, doesn't it? :-) http://gizmodo.com/for-20-years-the-nuclear-launch-code-at-us-minuteman-si-1473483587 http://gizmodo.com/for-20-years-the-nuclear-launch-code-at-us-minuteman-si-1473483587 So to recap, for around 20 years,
[FairfieldLife] RE: A Meditator#39;s Thanksgiving
You're not trying to pull a Zeno on us are you? The series you list tends to zero so you do finally make it to Antelope Freeway. Asymptotic lines never touch while ever-increasing-blessedness is never sated. Unsatisfied desire is in itself more desirable than any other satisfaction. - C S Lewis ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius wrote: I think it is kind of like asymptotic lines, which approach each other but never meet, but eventually you get close enough to see there is an end, closure, but you can never quite get there... From an old Firesign Theatre album, the voice reading out the signs that a character in one of their audio plays passes on a Southern California highway: Antelope Freeway, 1 mile Antelope Freeway, 1/2 mile Antelope Freeway, 1/4 mile Antelope Freeway, 1/8 mile Antelope Freeway, 1/16 mile Antelope Freeway, 1/32 mile Antelope Freeway, 1/64 mile... :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] 10 Ways Liars Use Words To Obscure the Truth
So, I've been thinking about this for awhile and I've come to the conclusion that Judy doesn't want to dialog with anyone, otherwise she would be, I guess. And, I don't know of anyone who would want to dialog with Judy, after meeting up with her in this group. But, I can think of several people who left the group after attempting to dialog with Judy. Judy has been attempting to get everyone to shun me for years. It looks like she didn't get to you, YET. LoL! So, my conclusion is that Judy doesn't want anyone dialoging here, which is really weird, because she's been hanging on our every work for a decade. Nobody even cares if people are truthful in an online chat room, they just feel better when they have someone to talk to. But everyone hates a well-poisoner - especially when they try to post something sincere and they meet up with a fanatical partisan who tries to get real personal on first meeting. Go figure. In one of my first posts ever to a newsgroup, alt.m.t., I invited anyone to come over to my place for a visit. The first reply I got was from Lon P. Stacks (RIP) who said: And do what, drink coctails on the veranda? Well, duh Can you imagine what it would be like if you went to a social gathering in NYC and met up with Judy and she behaved the way she behaves in this group? People would probably start heading for the door - just like they do here. There's what, 1000 subscribers to this list, but only a half dozen dare post here. Go figure. On 11/28/2013 9:48 PM, anartax...@yahoo.com wrote: Richard, A well poisoner. Nice observation, including all the rest you wrote. In post 363322 perhaps there is a clue. In a response to Share authfriend wrote: P.S.: You're quite right about my childhood, albeit not in the way you hope. I had a happy, stress-free childhood with two parents who loved me deeply and steadfastly. They passed on their own devotion to authenticity and loathing of phoniness to me. Whatever she feels is non authentic gets a dose of loathing, i.e., a feeling of intense dislike or disgust; hatred (that is the definition of the word). If you want to change the world, loathing is not the emotion I would want to operate from; it is the antithesis of acceptance, which is what spirituality develops (sometimes anyway). Loathing is the emotion you want to instill if you want to pass on intolerance. It is a blinding emotion. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: I've been an respondent on the internet since 1999, so it's not like I'm a newbie or something. And it's been my observation that Judy has a really big ego, maybe bigger even than Barry, and that's saying a lot! There are facts and there are opinions - facts can be argued, but an opinion stands no matter what, and that's everyone's right to express - you may not agree, but there should be no excuse for slandering your debating opponents. It's like when some people call others 'nazis' all the time - it soon loses its force, and in the end doesn't do justice to the real nazi victims. At first I thought Judy was being very astute when she called Barry a liar over and over again; then she started going after me with the same tactic. For awhile I thought there was something wrong with me and that maybe I did lack integrity. But now, after Judy called Buck a liar for no reason at all, I've come to the conclusion that Judy is simply a well-poisoner. That's her style I guess. Hey, I'm all for truthfulness and personal integrity, but I'm just not sure dialoging with anonymous informants in an online chat-room is the place to prove it - this is supposed to fun, not a trial by a one-person judge and jury. But, it has reached a level now that she's calling almost everyone a liar, a troll, and/or a poser. At this point, she's just a very unpleasant person to deal with and not very informative either. And, there's no relief when anyone starts up a dialog with her - it's incessant and endless. Barry is a case in point - from what I can tell, Judy carries a grudge for a very, very long time. Go figure. P.S. You may have noticed that Judy does NOT respond very elegantly to constructive criticism. If anyone can point to an untruth I've posted, please let me know and point my error - be specific, so we can resolve any misunderstandings. Thanks in advance. On 11/27/2013 10:33 AM, Share Long wrote: I think Truth is something huge, that cannot really be completely conveyed in words alone. Unless the speaker or writer is communicating from a very settled and integrated level of consciousness. OTOH, unless someone has a nefarious intention, I think most people try to communicate truthfully. But each of us is limited by our connection to Truth. The most trustworthy people, imho, are those who recognize this and intend to become more and more truthful. On Wednesday, November 27, 2013 9:21 AM, Richard J. Williams
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: 00000000, right
What you and authfriend don't like is that Share does not respond to you in the way you declare that she ought to, and that makes you mad and mean. You think she should say what you have scripted for her, but of course things don't work that way, and to expect them to is just another way of trying to control another person. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: It's interesting to see the different approaches taken by the Mean Girls. Authfriend practices a kind of knee-jerk negativity that produces crude, nasty attacks. In respect of Share (and Barry), she is All Nasty, All the Time. It doesn't matter what these two write; the response is always the same. Any excuse to belittle, mock, and insult -- that's authfriend's MO. With Emily, it's a little different at first. It starts with the pretense that she doesn't understand or is trying to understand something that Share wrote. No pretense. I *am* trying to understand by asking her to explain what she is saying or thinking or feeling when she says it. Sometimes I am asking her to provide a larger context for her comments because a lot of what she says doesn't make sense to me. I've stated that many, many, times. Objectively, human behavior does interest me, no doubt, and I truly am a sincerely curious sort of person. Emily likes to sound reasonable and sincere, carefully trying to disguise her hostility. I am *sounding* that way because I always give everyone the benefit of the doubt and I am often reasonable and usually sincere, albeit, sometimes within a context or a writing style that you don't seem to pick up on, given this statement of yours. I am not a hostile person and I don't hold onto or maintain hostility on this forum towards anyone ever, really. If I did, I wouldn't stay here. I have certain triggers - Share's mean streak is one of them, when it pops up. I respond to what shows up in the moment, or as a result of watching the trajectory of a conversation unfold. I try to keep a larger picture in mind almost always, even as I may descend into the energy and feeling of a thread as it resonates within me. I may not always succeed in the heat of the moment (in keeping the larger picture at the forefront), but behind the scenes, in my own life, I always go through a process of lessons learned, if you will. I am a human being and I *believe* in the concepts of accountability and humility, for example. This prepares the ground. It's a set up. Then when Share responds, Emily declares the response to be inadequate or shocking, and proceeds to plunge the knife in and twist it as much as she can. Jesus Christ Feste, I have been shocked by Share on many occasions, it's true, and she has deferred and refused to take accountability for her words, or even explain them, on even more occasions. I have also apologized more times and copped to my own actions more than many here and I have stated many times that I always check what I might say to others against my self - I am not a saint nor do I pretend to be. Share has a record of zero on that front. I hold no animosity towards her; I am just objectively stating what I have noticed from her posts here. To attribute these kinds of violent images to me says a lot about you, not me. Curiously, Share, do you agree with what Feste says here about me? Is this how you have experienced me on this forum? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Poor, helpless Share. She is Lady, hear her squeak... Feste Sir Galahads: Ramping up for a Mean Girl attack ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote: The way you state half sister is so odd to me. Yes, I understand the genetic aspect, but from a relational standpoint, it is just so odd to me. Did you just meet her or have you known her for a long time? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: I don't know why I find that kind of funny, that we could all be blown to smithereens because someone spilled coffee on a keyboard! Obviously too much turkey has taken over my brain! Speaking of food, at my half sister's last night, a neighbor brought over little goblets of pumpkin bread pudding! Bread pudding is my favorite dessert so I was in 7th heaven. On Friday, November 29, 2013 11:52 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Wow, you could accidentally put a coffee mug on the keyboard and off we all go to the next world! I remember that the systems monitoring Russian missile launches mistakenly thought the west was under attack twice with ICBMs actually on the way. And Ronald Reagan's escape plane took off twice without him! LOL. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: That's eight zeros above, not . is what you say when you learn that
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: 00000000, right
Feste, You. Do. Not. Have. A. Clue. Feste the Clueless wrote: What you and authfriend don't like is that Share does not respond to you in the way you declare that she ought to, and that makes you mad and mean. You think she should say what you have scripted for her, but of course things don't work that way, and to expect them to is just another way of trying to control another person. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: It's interesting to see the different approaches taken by the Mean Girls. Authfriend practices a kind of knee-jerk negativity that produces crude, nasty attacks. In respect of Share (and Barry), she is All Nasty, All the Time. It doesn't matter what these two write; the response is always the same. Any excuse to belittle, mock, and insult -- that's authfriend's MO. With Emily, it's a little different at first. It starts with the pretense that she doesn't understand or is trying to understand something that Share wrote. No pretense. I *am* trying to understand by asking her to explain what she is saying or thinking or feeling when she says it. Sometimes I am asking her to provide a larger context for her comments because a lot of what she says doesn't make sense to me. I've stated that many, many, times. Objectively, human behavior does interest me, no doubt, and I truly am a sincerely curious sort of person. Emily likes to sound reasonable and sincere, carefully trying to disguise her hostility. I am *sounding* that way because I always give everyone the benefit of the doubt and I am often reasonable and usually sincere, albeit, sometimes within a context or a writing style that you don't seem to pick up on, given this statement of yours. I am not a hostile person and I don't hold onto or maintain hostility on this forum towards anyone ever, really. If I did, I wouldn't stay here. I have certain triggers - Share's mean streak is one of them, when it pops up. I respond to what shows up in the moment, or as a result of watching the trajectory of a conversation unfold. I try to keep a larger picture in mind almost always, even as I may descend into the energy and feeling of a thread as it resonates within me. I may not always succeed in the heat of the moment (in keeping the larger picture at the forefront), but behind the scenes, in my own life, I always go through a process of lessons learned, if you will. I am a human being and I *believe* in the concepts of accountability and humility, for example. This prepares the ground. It's a set up. Then when Share responds, Emily declares the response to be inadequate or shocking, and proceeds to plunge the knife in and twist it as much as she can. Jesus Christ Feste, I have been shocked by Share on many occasions, it's true, and she has deferred and refused to take accountability for her words, or even explain them, on even more occasions. I have also apologized more times and copped to my own actions more than many here and I have stated many times that I always check what I might say to others against my self - I am not a saint nor do I pretend to be. Share has a record of zero on that front. I hold no animosity towards her; I am just objectively stating what I have noticed from her posts here. To attribute these kinds of violent images to me says a lot about you, not me. Curiously, Share, do you agree with what Feste says here about me? Is this how you have experienced me on this forum?
[FairfieldLife] RE: Amish Girl Refuses Chemotheraphy
Salyavin, There's nothing wrong in dying with dignity. The human body does not have to be prolonged by artificial means. It can be justified, in most cases, to leave the body alone by itself to follow the natural course. If the body recovers, it would be the best. If it does not, then life would end naturally. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: The land of the free. Free to die because of religious beliefs? Fair enough. Plenty of belief systems refuse blood transfusions. I've known TMers who say they would refuse any sort of transplant because they don't want someone else's karma. In fact, I've known people who died because they chose alternative healthcare. Alternative to things that work it would seem. This is why I say natural selection works on the religious too. Not cruel at all, or at least no crueller than it is for you and me. Maybe if I'd read article That's a very cruel comment. I'm on the side of the parents. Since when does the state have the right to inflict chemotherapy on people who don't want it? The family has every right to choose an alternative method of treatment. This is supposed to be the land of the free. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: That's a very cruel comment. I'm on the side of the parents. Since when does the state have the right to inflict chemotherapy on people who don't want it? The family has every right to choose an alternative method of treatment. This is supposed to be the land of the free. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Yup, natural selection works on the religious too. Maybe they'll see the irony in that and stop being so silly. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote: But the State of Ohio wants her to continue the treatment. It appears to me that the girl and her family have the right to forego the treatment if that is their religious preference to do so. http://news.yahoo.com/ohio-amish-girl-cuts-off-contact-amid-chemo-161240343.html http://news.yahoo.com/ohio-amish-girl-cuts-off-contact-amid-chemo-161240343.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: MyFace
MyFace, updated. [image: Inline image 1] Visit MyFace: http://www.rwilliams.us/myface/ http://www.rwilliams.us/myface/index.htm On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 10:32 AM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote: You've heard of 'My Space'. And, you've heard of 'Facebook'. My new social networking site will be called 'My Face'. Just post pictures of your face, nothing else, and then post comments about each others face. Everyone loves to make comments about other people's face. Don't know HTML? Send me a photo of your face along with your real name and I'll put up it up on the web for you. It will be fun and I'll be a millionaire in a year or two. Don't be shy just because you've got no hair or teeth left. LoL! [image: Inline image 1] http://www.rwilliams.us/myface/
Re: [FairfieldLife] What I Did Today
Today I went to this place: [image: Inline image 1] On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 5:29 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote: Yesterday we also went to Whole Foods and had a nice salad. They have got to have the very best salad bar in the whole town! [image: Inline image 1] On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 9:25 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote: Richard, yesterday I went to Coldwater Creek in Annapolis Town Center. I got my Mom a tunic length blouse for her birthday. It's a beautiful paisley print in black on white. But it's a little too small so we'll take it back today after lunch. I'm taking her and my sister to Brio's for lunch, also in Annapolis Town Center. People are calling my Mom this morning to wish her Happy Birthday. She's 83 and still zips around pretty well. Actually her foot can be a little heavy on the pedal but I just close my eyes LOL! On Tuesday, November 26, 2013 6:47 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: Today we went back to this place: [image: Inline image 1] On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 9:51 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote: My Whole Foods has lots of dried fruit and nuts: [image: Inline image 1] On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 9:39 PM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.comwrote: Soon, Richard, I'll be going to the Whole Foods in Annapolis. They have TWO kinds of quinoa concoctions at the salad bar. How many different kinds of quinoa salad does your Whole Foods have? PS I LOVE these photos of the different places you visit or drive by! On Tuesday, November 19, 2013 9:25 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: Tonight we went to this place: [image: Inline image 1] On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 7:11 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote: Today I drove by this place: [image: Inline image 1] On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 12:02 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote: This morning I went to this place: [image: Inline image 1] On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 7:57 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote: On the way home from the store I visited this place: [image: Inline image 1] On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 3:03 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote: There;s a rock and roll running marathon here today and there having a Formula Grand Prix race up in Austin. But, I went to this place today: [image: Inline image 1] On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 6:07 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote: Today I went by this place. What are those people all lined up for, waiting for days? [image: Inline image 1] On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 5:16 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote: Later today I drove past this place: [image: Inline image 1] On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 4:21 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote: There's an app for this: https://twitter.com/ I'm sure everyone on FFL will sign up for your tweets. On 11/15/2013 12:07 PM, Richard Williams wrote: Alright, I'm back on the discussion board; sorry for the delay but I had to go here:: [image: Inline image 1]
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: 00000000, right
Hey auth, what's with the weird punctuation? Doesn't. Make. Any. Sense. I can only conclude that you have cracked under the recent pressure. First, Share stands up to you. Then Richard J. Williams kicks your ass all over the park, without much reply from you, and then Xeno and Barry put the boot in, just to make sure you don't get up. Not a good week for you on this board, is it? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Feste, You. Do. Not. Have. A. Clue. Feste the Clueless wrote: What you and authfriend don't like is that Share does not respond to you in the way you declare that she ought to, and that makes you mad and mean. You think she should say what you have scripted for her, but of course things don't work that way, and to expect them to is just another way of trying to control another person. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: It's interesting to see the different approaches taken by the Mean Girls. Authfriend practices a kind of knee-jerk negativity that produces crude, nasty attacks. In respect of Share (and Barry), she is All Nasty, All the Time. It doesn't matter what these two write; the response is always the same. Any excuse to belittle, mock, and insult -- that's authfriend's MO. With Emily, it's a little different at first. It starts with the pretense that she doesn't understand or is trying to understand something that Share wrote. No pretense. I *am* trying to understand by asking her to explain what she is saying or thinking or feeling when she says it. Sometimes I am asking her to provide a larger context for her comments because a lot of what she says doesn't make sense to me. I've stated that many, many, times. Objectively, human behavior does interest me, no doubt, and I truly am a sincerely curious sort of person. Emily likes to sound reasonable and sincere, carefully trying to disguise her hostility. I am *sounding* that way because I always give everyone the benefit of the doubt and I am often reasonable and usually sincere, albeit, sometimes within a context or a writing style that you don't seem to pick up on, given this statement of yours. I am not a hostile person and I don't hold onto or maintain hostility on this forum towards anyone ever, really. If I did, I wouldn't stay here. I have certain triggers - Share's mean streak is one of them, when it pops up. I respond to what shows up in the moment, or as a result of watching the trajectory of a conversation unfold. I try to keep a larger picture in mind almost always, even as I may descend into the energy and feeling of a thread as it resonates within me. I may not always succeed in the heat of the moment (in keeping the larger picture at the forefront), but behind the scenes, in my own life, I always go through a process of lessons learned, if you will. I am a human being and I *believe* in the concepts of accountability and humility, for example. This prepares the ground. It's a set up. Then when Share responds, Emily declares the response to be inadequate or shocking, and proceeds to plunge the knife in and twist it as much as she can. Jesus Christ Feste, I have been shocked by Share on many occasions, it's true, and she has deferred and refused to take accountability for her words, or even explain them, on even more occasions. I have also apologized more times and copped to my own actions more than many here and I have stated many times that I always check what I might say to others against my self - I am not a saint nor do I pretend to be. Share has a record of zero on that front. I hold no animosity towards her; I am just objectively stating what I have noticed from her posts here. To attribute these kinds of violent images to me says a lot about you, not me. Curiously, Share, do you agree with what Feste says here about me? Is this how you have experienced me on this forum?
[FairfieldLife] Re: 100 Great Rock Artists
ZZTop [image: Inline image 1] ZZ Top - Got Me Under Pressure (Live In Texas): http://youtu.be/ZHRHc5HmFHg ZZ Top - Billy Gibbons, Dusty Hill, and Frank Beard (the one without a beard). ZZ Top is considered to be one of the greatest rock bands of all time. Some of the songs are so powerful they were once recommended by Rama. Several of the members are very fond of MMY - one became a TM Teacher. ZZ Top was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 2004. As a group, ZZ Top possesses 11 gold records and 7 platinum (13 multi-platinum) records; their 1983 album, Eliminator, remains the group's most commercially successful record, selling over 10 million units. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZZ_Top Music Suggested by Rama: Sleeping Bag from Afterburner ZZ Top, 1987 http://www.ramalila.com/music/complete.html ZZ Top: Live From Texas' DVD, June 24, 2008 Color, Dolby, DTS Surround Sound, DVD-Video, Live, NTSC 122 minutes Read more: 'Roadhouse Blues: Stevie Ray Vaughan and Texas RB' by Hugh Gregory Backbeat Books, 2003 Amazon reviews: I was there and they were fantastic!! - J. Field The show is filmed very well, very clear and sharp. The sound is amazing and the set list is so full of hits even a classic rock station can't keep up. - Christopher Forget AC/DC - ZZ Top is the greatest rock band ever and they prove it once again on this awesome DVD! - P. Myers On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 8:29 AM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote: Back when people could actually sing and play music for real: [image: Inline image 1] Bob Seeger The Silver Bullet Band: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Seger Night Moves Live-Bob Seger: http://youtu.be/mKaHci9Mc4A Early Detroit Band: Marshall Crenshaw http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_Crenshaw Marshall Crenshaw 2010 Detroit All Star Revue: http://youtu.be/HiaYst5wIQI
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: 00000000, right
Sometimes people get real busy working in their home office and don't really have time to post a long reply to a discussion group. Or, when they hear the 'ding', they break away just long enough to post a short one-liner, just so you know they are still monitoring everything that's said. Go figure. On 11/29/2013 4:04 PM, feste37 wrote: Hey auth, what's with the weird punctuation? Doesn't. Make. Any. Sense. I can only conclude that you have cracked under the recent pressure. First, Share stands up to you. Then Richard J. Williams kicks your ass all over the park, without much reply from you, and then Xeno and Barry put the boot in, just to make sure you don't get up. Not a good week for you on this board, is it? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: *Feste, You. Do. Not. Have. A. Clue.* *Feste the Clueless wrote:* What you and authfriend don't like is that Share does not respond to you in the way you declare that she ought to, and that makes you mad and mean. You think she should say what you have scripted for her, butof course things don't work that way, and to expect them to is just another way of trying to control another person. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: It's interesting to see the different approaches taken by the Mean Girls. Authfriend practices a kind of knee-jerk negativity that produces crude, nasty attacks. In respect of Share (and Barry), she is All Nasty, All the Time. It doesn't matter what these two write; the response is always the same. Any excuse to belittle, mock, and insult -- that's authfriend's MO. With Emily, it's a little different at first. It starts with the pretense that she doesn't understand or is trying to understand something that Share wrote. No pretense. I *am* trying to understand by asking her to explain what she is saying or thinking or feeling when she says it. Sometimes I am asking her to provide a larger context for her comments because a lot of what she says doesn't make sense to me. I've stated that many, many, times. Objectively, human behavior does interest me, no doubt, and I truly am a sincerely curious sort of person. Emily likes to sound reasonable and sincere, carefully trying to disguise her hostility. I am *sounding* that way because I always give everyone the benefit of the doubt and I am often reasonable and usually sincere, albeit, sometimes within a context or a writing style that you don't seem to pick up on, given this statement of yours. I am not a hostile person and I don't hold onto or maintain hostility on this forum towards anyone ever, really. If I did, I wouldn't stay here. I have certain triggers - Share's mean streak is one of them, when it pops up. I respond to what shows up in the moment, or as a result of watching the trajectory of a conversation unfold. I try to keep a larger picture in mind almost always, even as I may descend into the energy and feeling of a thread as it resonates within me. I may not always succeed in the heat of the moment (in keeping the larger picture at the forefront), but behind the scenes, in my own life, I always go through a process of lessons learned, if you will. I am a human being and I *believe* in the concepts of accountability and humility, for example. This prepares the ground. It's a set up. Then when Share responds, Emily declares the response to be inadequate or shocking, and proceeds to plunge the knife in and twist it as much as she can. Jesus Christ Feste, I have been shocked by Share on many occasions, it's true, and she has deferred and refused to take accountability for her words, or even explain them, on even more occasions. I have also apologized more times and copped to my own actions more than many here and I have stated many times that I always check what I might say to others against my self - I am not a saint nor do I pretend to be. Share has a record of zero on that front. I hold no animosity towards her; I am just objectively stating what I have noticed from her posts here. To attribute these kinds of violent images to me says a lot about you, not me. Curiously, Share, do you agree with what Feste says here
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First of all, I am seldom, if ever, truly mean; I do get mad sometimes. I do tease others about themselves and only those who have no ability to laugh at themselves whatsoever take offense, from what I've noticed. I make fun of myself as well all the time. (Again, all in a manner and context sometimes that not everyone understands, particularly given that you can't see me or hear my tone of voice). Secondly, I always try to communicate from an honest place. I *never* script anyone - how could I do that? I have no power or control over what anyone except myself writes. Everyone here has a choice if and how, they respond. Share ignores most of what I comment to her on; she certainly never responds the way I think she ought; I am not her keeper, but like everyone here, including me, if she posts, she runs the risk of receiving feedback. If that bothers her, than she has the option not to post. Thank you for your feedback; I find it humorous honestly, although quite off-base. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: What you and authfriend don't like is that Share does not respond to you in the way you declare that she ought to, and that makes you mad and mean. You think she should say what you have scripted for her, but of course things don't work that way, and to expect them to is just another way of trying to control another person. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: It's interesting to see the different approaches taken by the Mean Girls. Authfriend practices a kind of knee-jerk negativity that produces crude, nasty attacks. In respect of Share (and Barry), she is All Nasty, All the Time. It doesn't matter what these two write; the response is always the same. Any excuse to belittle, mock, and insult -- that's authfriend's MO. With Emily, it's a little different at first. It starts with the pretense that she doesn't understand or is trying to understand something that Share wrote. No pretense. I *am* trying to understand by asking her to explain what she is saying or thinking or feeling when she says it. Sometimes I am asking her to provide a larger context for her comments because a lot of what she says doesn't make sense to me. I've stated that many, many, times. Objectively, human behavior does interest me, no doubt, and I truly am a sincerely curious sort of person. Emily likes to sound reasonable and sincere, carefully trying to disguise her hostility. I am *sounding* that way because I always give everyone the benefit of the doubt and I am often reasonable and usually sincere, albeit, sometimes within a context or a writing style that you don't seem to pick up on, given this statement of yours. I am not a hostile person and I don't hold onto or maintain hostility on this forum towards anyone ever, really. If I did, I wouldn't stay here. I have certain triggers - Share's mean streak is one of them, when it pops up. I respond to what shows up in the moment, or as a result of watching the trajectory of a conversation unfold. I try to keep a larger picture in mind almost always, even as I may descend into the energy and feeling of a thread as it resonates within me. I may not always succeed in the heat of the moment (in keeping the larger picture at the forefront), but behind the scenes, in my own life, I always go through a process of lessons learned, if you will. I am a human being and I *believe* in the concepts of accountability and humility, for example. This prepares the ground. It's a set up. Then when Share responds, Emily declares the response to be inadequate or shocking, and proceeds to plunge the knife in and twist it as much as she can. Jesus Christ Feste, I have been shocked by Share on many occasions, it's true, and she has deferred and refused to take accountability for her words, or even explain them, on even more occasions. I have also apologized more times and copped to my own actions more than many here and I have stated many times that I always check what I might say to others against my self - I am not a saint nor do I pretend to be. Share has a record of zero on that front. I hold no animosity towards her; I am just objectively stating what I have noticed from her posts here. To attribute these kinds of violent images to me says a lot about you, not me. Curiously, Share, do you agree with what Feste says here about me? Is this how you have experienced me on this forum? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Poor, helpless Share. She is Lady, hear her squeak... Feste Sir Galahads: Ramping up for a Mean Girl attack ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote: The way you state half sister is so odd to me. Yes, I understand the genetic aspect, but from a relational standpoint, it
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I think Feste must have taken one too many of his testosterone pills over Thanksgiving. Emily wrote: First of all, I am seldom, if ever, truly mean; I do get mad sometimes. I do tease others about themselves and only those who have no ability to laugh at themselves whatsoever take offense, from what I've noticed. I make fun of myself as well all the time. (Again, all in a manner and context sometimes that not everyone understands, particularly given that you can't see me or hear my tone of voice). Secondly, I always try to communicate from an honest place. I *never* script anyone - how could I do that? I have no power or control over what anyone except myself writes. Everyone here has a choice if and how, they respond. Share ignores most of what I comment to her on; she certainly never responds the way I think she ought; I am not her keeper, but like everyone here, including me, if she posts, she runs the risk of receiving feedback. If that bothers her, than she has the option not to post. Thank you for your feedback; I find it humorous honestly, although quite off-base. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: What you and authfriend don't like is that Share does not respond to you in the way you declare that she ought to, and that makes you mad and mean. You think she should say what you have scripted for her, but of course things don't work that way, and to expect them to is just another way of trying to control another person. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: It's interesting to see the different approaches taken by the Mean Girls. Authfriend practices a kind of knee-jerk negativity that produces crude, nasty attacks. In respect of Share (and Barry), she is All Nasty, All the Time. It doesn't matter what these two write; the response is always the same. Any excuse to belittle, mock, and insult -- that's authfriend's MO. With Emily, it's a little different at first. It starts with the pretense that she doesn't understand or is trying to understand something that Share wrote. No pretense. I *am* trying to understand by asking her to explain what she is saying or thinking or feeling when she says it. Sometimes I am asking her to provide a larger context for her comments because a lot of what she says doesn't make sense to me. I've stated that many, many, times. Objectively, human behavior does interest me, no doubt, and I truly am a sincerely curious sort of person. Emily likes to sound reasonable and sincere, carefully trying to disguise her hostility. I am *sounding* that way because I always give everyone the benefit of the doubt and I am often reasonable and usually sincere, albeit, sometimes within a context or a writing style that you don't seem to pick up on, given this statement of yours. I am not a hostile person and I don't hold onto or maintain hostility on this forum towards anyone ever, really. If I did, I wouldn't stay here. I have certain triggers - Share's mean streak is one of them, when it pops up. I respond to what shows up in the moment, or as a result of watching the trajectory of a conversation unfold. I try to keep a larger picture in mind almost always, even as I may descend into the energy and feeling of a thread as it resonates within me. I may not always succeed in the heat of the moment (in keeping the larger picture at the forefront), but behind the scenes, in my own life, I always go through a process of lessons learned, if you will. I am a human being and I *believe* in the concepts of accountability and humility, for example. This prepares the ground. It's a set up. Then when Share responds, Emily declares the response to be inadequate or shocking, and proceeds to plunge the knife in and twist it as much as she can. Jesus Christ Feste, I have been shocked by Share on many occasions, it's true, and she has deferred and refused to take accountability for her words, or even explain them, on even more occasions. I have also apologized more times and copped to my own actions more than many here and I have stated many times that I always check what I might say to others against my self - I am not a saint nor do I pretend to be. Share has a record of zero on that front. I hold no animosity towards her; I am just objectively stating what I have noticed from her posts here. To attribute these kinds of violent images to me says a lot about you, not me. Curiously, Share, do you agree with what Feste says here about me? Is this how you have experienced me on this forum? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Poor, helpless Share. She is Lady, hear her squeak... Feste Sir Galahads: Ramping up for a Mean Girl attack ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
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Um, looks a whole lot different from here, Feste. As for the weird punctuation, you must not get around the Web a lot; it's pretty much standard practice these days for bloggers and commenters when they want to say something emphatically. Poor Richard has been exceedingly frustrated that he can't get me to respond to his trolling (but as I keep saying, if you'd like me to give you a detailed refutation of anything he says about me, just ask). If Share stood up to me, it must have been awfully feebly, because I didn't notice. Xeno's making a total ass of himself, not for the first time. And Barry? He's repeatedly shot himself in the foot trying to get me over the past few days. Trouble is, he doesn't have any ammunition except lies, and for some reason it never dawns on him that his lies are easily disposed of. I guess you've been reading only his posts and not my responses. Want to try again? Feste fumphs: Hey auth, what's with the weird punctuation? Doesn't. Make. Any. Sense. I can only conclude that you have cracked under the recent pressure. First, Share stands up to you. Then Richard J. Williams kicks your ass all over the park, without much reply from you, and then Xeno and Barry put the boot in, just to make sure you don't get up. Not a good week for you on this board, is it? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Feste, You. Do. Not. Have. A. Clue. Feste the Clueless wrote: What you and authfriend don't like is that Share does not respond to you in the way you declare that she ought to, and that makes you mad and mean. You think she should say what you have scripted for her, but of course things don't work that way, and to expect them to is just another way of trying to control another person. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: It's interesting to see the different approaches taken by the Mean Girls. Authfriend practices a kind of knee-jerk negativity that produces crude, nasty attacks. In respect of Share (and Barry), she is All Nasty, All the Time. It doesn't matter what these two write; the response is always the same. Any excuse to belittle, mock, and insult -- that's authfriend's MO. With Emily, it's a little different at first. It starts with the pretense that she doesn't understand or is trying to understand something that Share wrote. No pretense. I *am* trying to understand by asking her to explain what she is saying or thinking or feeling when she says it. Sometimes I am asking her to provide a larger context for her comments because a lot of what she says doesn't make sense to me. I've stated that many, many, times. Objectively, human behavior does interest me, no doubt, and I truly am a sincerely curious sort of person. Emily likes to sound reasonable and sincere, carefully trying to disguise her hostility. I am *sounding* that way because I always give everyone the benefit of the doubt and I am often reasonable and usually sincere, albeit, sometimes within a context or a writing style that you don't seem to pick up on, given this statement of yours. I am not a hostile person and I don't hold onto or maintain hostility on this forum towards anyone ever, really. If I did, I wouldn't stay here. I have certain triggers - Share's mean streak is one of them, when it pops up. I respond to what shows up in the moment, or as a result of watching the trajectory of a conversation unfold. I try to keep a larger picture in mind almost always, even as I may descend into the energy and feeling of a thread as it resonates within me. I may not always succeed in the heat of the moment (in keeping the larger picture at the forefront), but behind the scenes, in my own life, I always go through a process of lessons learned, if you will. I am a human being and I *believe* in the concepts of accountability and humility, for example. This prepares the ground. It's a set up. Then when Share responds, Emily declares the response to be inadequate or shocking, and proceeds to plunge the knife in and twist it as much as she can. Jesus Christ Feste, I have been shocked by Share on many occasions, it's true, and she has deferred and refused to take accountability for her words, or even explain them, on even more occasions. I have also apologized more times and copped to my own actions more than many here and I have stated many times that I always check what I might say to others against my self - I am not a saint nor do I pretend to be. Share has a record of zero on that front. I hold no animosity towards her; I am just objectively stating what I have noticed from her posts here. To attribute these kinds of violent images to me says a lot about you, not me. Curiously, Share, do you agree with what Feste says here about me? Is this how you have
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Standard practice? You have got to be kidding. I have never seen it before. I. Think. It. Is. Very. Bad. Writing. It's quite fun watching you being a punching bag for everyone else and lamely trying to claim victory. As for the testosterone pills, I don't need them. Just ask my girlfriend. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Um, looks a whole lot different from here, Feste. As for the weird punctuation, you must not get around the Web a lot; it's pretty much standard practice these days for bloggers and commenters when they want to say something emphatically. Poor Richard has been exceedingly frustrated that he can't get me to respond to his trolling (but as I keep saying, if you'd like me to give you a detailed refutation of anything he says about me, just ask). If Share stood up to me, it must have been awfully feebly, because I didn't notice. Xeno's making a total ass of himself, not for the first time. And Barry? He's repeatedly shot himself in the foot trying to get me over the past few days. Trouble is, he doesn't have any ammunition except lies, and for some reason it never dawns on him that his lies are easily disposed of. I guess you've been reading only his posts and not my responses. Want to try again? Feste fumphs: Hey auth, what's with the weird punctuation? Doesn't. Make. Any. Sense. I can only conclude that you have cracked under the recent pressure. First, Share stands up to you. Then Richard J. Williams kicks your ass all over the park, without much reply from you, and then Xeno and Barry put the boot in, just to make sure you don't get up. Not a good week for you on this board, is it? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Feste, You. Do. Not. Have. A. Clue. Feste the Clueless wrote: What you and authfriend don't like is that Share does not respond to you in the way you declare that she ought to, and that makes you mad and mean. You think she should say what you have scripted for her, but of course things don't work that way, and to expect them to is just another way of trying to control another person. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: It's interesting to see the different approaches taken by the Mean Girls. Authfriend practices a kind of knee-jerk negativity that produces crude, nasty attacks. In respect of Share (and Barry), she is All Nasty, All the Time. It doesn't matter what these two write; the response is always the same. Any excuse to belittle, mock, and insult -- that's authfriend's MO. With Emily, it's a little different at first. It starts with the pretense that she doesn't understand or is trying to understand something that Share wrote. No pretense. I *am* trying to understand by asking her to explain what she is saying or thinking or feeling when she says it. Sometimes I am asking her to provide a larger context for her comments because a lot of what she says doesn't make sense to me. I've stated that many, many, times. Objectively, human behavior does interest me, no doubt, and I truly am a sincerely curious sort of person. Emily likes to sound reasonable and sincere, carefully trying to disguise her hostility. I am *sounding* that way because I always give everyone the benefit of the doubt and I am often reasonable and usually sincere, albeit, sometimes within a context or a writing style that you don't seem to pick up on, given this statement of yours. I am not a hostile person and I don't hold onto or maintain hostility on this forum towards anyone ever, really. If I did, I wouldn't stay here. I have certain triggers - Share's mean streak is one of them, when it pops up. I respond to what shows up in the moment, or as a result of watching the trajectory of a conversation unfold. I try to keep a larger picture in mind almost always, even as I may descend into the energy and feeling of a thread as it resonates within me. I may not always succeed in the heat of the moment (in keeping the larger picture at the forefront), but behind the scenes, in my own life, I always go through a process of lessons learned, if you will. I am a human being and I *believe* in the concepts of accountability and humility, for example. This prepares the ground. It's a set up. Then when Share responds, Emily declares the response to be inadequate or shocking, and proceeds to plunge the knife in and twist it as much as she can. Jesus Christ Feste, I have been shocked by Share on many occasions, it's true, and she has deferred and refused to take accountability for her words, or even explain them, on even more occasions. I have also apologized more times and copped to my own actions more than many here and I have stated many times that I always check what I might say to others against my self - I am
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Feste, do you see the humor in this? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: I think Feste must have taken one too many of his testosterone pills over Thanksgiving. Emily wrote: First of all, I am seldom, if ever, truly mean; I do get mad sometimes. I do tease others about themselves and only those who have no ability to laugh at themselves whatsoever take offense, from what I've noticed. I make fun of myself as well all the time. (Again, all in a manner and context sometimes that not everyone understands, particularly given that you can't see me or hear my tone of voice). Secondly, I always try to communicate from an honest place. I *never* script anyone - how could I do that? I have no power or control over what anyone except myself writes. Everyone here has a choice if and how, they respond. Share ignores most of what I comment to her on; she certainly never responds the way I think she ought; I am not her keeper, but like everyone here, including me, if she posts, she runs the risk of receiving feedback. If that bothers her, than she has the option not to post. Thank you for your feedback; I find it humorous honestly, although quite off-base. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: What you and authfriend don't like is that Share does not respond to you in the way you declare that she ought to, and that makes you mad and mean. You think she should say what you have scripted for her, but of course things don't work that way, and to expect them to is just another way of trying to control another person. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: It's interesting to see the different approaches taken by the Mean Girls. Authfriend practices a kind of knee-jerk negativity that produces crude, nasty attacks. In respect of Share (and Barry), she is All Nasty, All the Time. It doesn't matter what these two write; the response is always the same. Any excuse to belittle, mock, and insult -- that's authfriend's MO. With Emily, it's a little different at first. It starts with the pretense that she doesn't understand or is trying to understand something that Share wrote. No pretense. I *am* trying to understand by asking her to explain what she is saying or thinking or feeling when she says it. Sometimes I am asking her to provide a larger context for her comments because a lot of what she says doesn't make sense to me. I've stated that many, many, times. Objectively, human behavior does interest me, no doubt, and I truly am a sincerely curious sort of person. Emily likes to sound reasonable and sincere, carefully trying to disguise her hostility. I am *sounding* that way because I always give everyone the benefit of the doubt and I am often reasonable and usually sincere, albeit, sometimes within a context or a writing style that you don't seem to pick up on, given this statement of yours. I am not a hostile person and I don't hold onto or maintain hostility on this forum towards anyone ever, really. If I did, I wouldn't stay here. I have certain triggers - Share's mean streak is one of them, when it pops up. I respond to what shows up in the moment, or as a result of watching the trajectory of a conversation unfold. I try to keep a larger picture in mind almost always, even as I may descend into the energy and feeling of a thread as it resonates within me. I may not always succeed in the heat of the moment (in keeping the larger picture at the forefront), but behind the scenes, in my own life, I always go through a process of lessons learned, if you will. I am a human being and I *believe* in the concepts of accountability and humility, for example. This prepares the ground. It's a set up. Then when Share responds, Emily declares the response to be inadequate or shocking, and proceeds to plunge the knife in and twist it as much as she can. Jesus Christ Feste, I have been shocked by Share on many occasions, it's true, and she has deferred and refused to take accountability for her words, or even explain them, on even more occasions. I have also apologized more times and copped to my own actions more than many here and I have stated many times that I always check what I might say to others against my self - I am not a saint nor do I pretend to be. Share has a record of zero on that front. I hold no animosity towards her; I am just objectively stating what I have noticed from her posts here. To attribute these kinds of violent images to me says a lot about you, not me. Curiously, Share, do you agree with what Feste says here about me? Is this how you have experienced me on this forum? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Poor, helpless Share. She is Lady, hear her squeak... Feste
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Good, it appears that you do. OTOH, you gain pleasure from holding a perception that Judy is a punching bag getting beat up. Sounds kind of macabre to me. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote: Feste, do you see the humor in this? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: I think Feste must have taken one too many of his testosterone pills over Thanksgiving. Emily wrote: First of all, I am seldom, if ever, truly mean; I do get mad sometimes. I do tease others about themselves and only those who have no ability to laugh at themselves whatsoever take offense, from what I've noticed. I make fun of myself as well all the time. (Again, all in a manner and context sometimes that not everyone understands, particularly given that you can't see me or hear my tone of voice). Secondly, I always try to communicate from an honest place. I *never* script anyone - how could I do that? I have no power or control over what anyone except myself writes. Everyone here has a choice if and how, they respond. Share ignores most of what I comment to her on; she certainly never responds the way I think she ought; I am not her keeper, but like everyone here, including me, if she posts, she runs the risk of receiving feedback. If that bothers her, than she has the option not to post. Thank you for your feedback; I find it humorous honestly, although quite off-base. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: What you and authfriend don't like is that Share does not respond to you in the way you declare that she ought to, and that makes you mad and mean. You think she should say what you have scripted for her, but of course things don't work that way, and to expect them to is just another way of trying to control another person. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: It's interesting to see the different approaches taken by the Mean Girls. Authfriend practices a kind of knee-jerk negativity that produces crude, nasty attacks. In respect of Share (and Barry), she is All Nasty, All the Time. It doesn't matter what these two write; the response is always the same. Any excuse to belittle, mock, and insult -- that's authfriend's MO. With Emily, it's a little different at first. It starts with the pretense that she doesn't understand or is trying to understand something that Share wrote. No pretense. I *am* trying to understand by asking her to explain what she is saying or thinking or feeling when she says it. Sometimes I am asking her to provide a larger context for her comments because a lot of what she says doesn't make sense to me. I've stated that many, many, times. Objectively, human behavior does interest me, no doubt, and I truly am a sincerely curious sort of person. Emily likes to sound reasonable and sincere, carefully trying to disguise her hostility. I am *sounding* that way because I always give everyone the benefit of the doubt and I am often reasonable and usually sincere, albeit, sometimes within a context or a writing style that you don't seem to pick up on, given this statement of yours. I am not a hostile person and I don't hold onto or maintain hostility on this forum towards anyone ever, really. If I did, I wouldn't stay here. I have certain triggers - Share's mean streak is one of them, when it pops up. I respond to what shows up in the moment, or as a result of watching the trajectory of a conversation unfold. I try to keep a larger picture in mind almost always, even as I may descend into the energy and feeling of a thread as it resonates within me. I may not always succeed in the heat of the moment (in keeping the larger picture at the forefront), but behind the scenes, in my own life, I always go through a process of lessons learned, if you will. I am a human being and I *believe* in the concepts of accountability and humility, for example. This prepares the ground. It's a set up. Then when Share responds, Emily declares the response to be inadequate or shocking, and proceeds to plunge the knife in and twist it as much as she can. Jesus Christ Feste, I have been shocked by Share on many occasions, it's true, and she has deferred and refused to take accountability for her words, or even explain them, on even more occasions. I have also apologized more times and copped to my own actions more than many here and I have stated many times that I always check what I might say to others against my self - I am not a saint nor do I pretend to be. Share has a record of zero on that front. I hold no animosity towards her; I am just objectively stating what I have noticed from her posts here. To attribute these kinds of violent images to me says a lot about you, not me. Curiously, Share, do
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Feste tries again: Standard practice? You have got to be kidding. Uh, no. I have never seen it before. I. Think. It. Is. Very. Bad. Writing. LOL. Better learn to appreciate Web-speak for the sake of your blood pressure. It's not going anywhere. It's quite fun watching you being a punching bag for everyone else and lamely trying to claim victory. Actually I don't claim victory. The folks throwing the punches and missing (or smacking themselves in the face) are losers without any assistance from me. But I'm glad you're enjoying the spectacle. As for the testosterone pills, I don't need them. Just ask my girlfriend. Mmmm-hmmm. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Um, looks a whole lot different from here, Feste. As for the weird punctuation, you must not get around the Web a lot; it's pretty much standard practice these days for bloggers and commenters when they want to say something emphatically. Poor Richard has been exceedingly frustrated that he can't get me to respond to his trolling (but as I keep saying, if you'd like me to give you a detailed refutation of anything he says about me, just ask). If Share stood up to me, it must have been awfully feebly, because I didn't notice. Xeno's making a total ass of himself, not for the first time. And Barry? He's repeatedly shot himself in the foot trying to get me over the past few days. Trouble is, he doesn't have any ammunition except lies, and for some reason it never dawns on him that his lies are easily disposed of. I guess you've been reading only his posts and not my responses. Want to try again? Feste fumphs: Hey auth, what's with the weird punctuation? Doesn't. Make. Any. Sense. I can only conclude that you have cracked under the recent pressure. First, Share stands up to you. Then Richard J. Williams kicks your ass all over the park, without much reply from you, and then Xeno and Barry put the boot in, just to make sure you don't get up. Not a good week for you on this board, is it? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Feste, You. Do. Not. Have. A. Clue. Feste the Clueless wrote: What you and authfriend don't like is that Share does not respond to you in the way you declare that she ought to, and that makes you mad and mean. You think she should say what you have scripted for her, but of course things don't work that way, and to expect them to is just another way of trying to control another person. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: It's interesting to see the different approaches taken by the Mean Girls. Authfriend practices a kind of knee-jerk negativity that produces crude, nasty attacks. In respect of Share (and Barry), she is All Nasty, All the Time. It doesn't matter what these two write; the response is always the same. Any excuse to belittle, mock, and insult -- that's authfriend's MO. With Emily, it's a little different at first. It starts with the pretense that she doesn't understand or is trying to understand something that Share wrote. No pretense. I *am* trying to understand by asking her to explain what she is saying or thinking or feeling when she says it. Sometimes I am asking her to provide a larger context for her comments because a lot of what she says doesn't make sense to me. I've stated that many, many, times. Objectively, human behavior does interest me, no doubt, and I truly am a sincerely curious sort of person. Emily likes to sound reasonable and sincere, carefully trying to disguise her hostility. I am *sounding* that way because I always give everyone the benefit of the doubt and I am often reasonable and usually sincere, albeit, sometimes within a context or a writing style that you don't seem to pick up on, given this statement of yours. I am not a hostile person and I don't hold onto or maintain hostility on this forum towards anyone ever, really. If I did, I wouldn't stay here. I have certain triggers - Share's mean streak is one of them, when it pops up. I respond to what shows up in the moment, or as a result of watching the trajectory of a conversation unfold. I try to keep a larger picture in mind almost always, even as I may descend into the energy and feeling of a thread as it resonates within me. I may not always succeed in the heat of the moment (in keeping the larger picture at the forefront), but behind the scenes, in my own life, I always go through a process of lessons learned, if you will. I am a human being and I *believe* in the concepts of accountability and humility, for example. This prepares the ground. It's a set up. Then when Share responds, Emily declares the response to be inadequate or shocking, and proceeds to plunge the knife in and twist it as much as she can. Jesus Christ
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It's just a metaphor, hon. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote: Good, it appears that you do. OTOH, you gain pleasure from holding a perception that Judy is a punching bag getting beat up. Sounds kind of macabre to me. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote: Feste, do you see the humor in this? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: I think Feste must have taken one too many of his testosterone pills over Thanksgiving. Emily wrote: First of all, I am seldom, if ever, truly mean; I do get mad sometimes. I do tease others about themselves and only those who have no ability to laugh at themselves whatsoever take offense, from what I've noticed. I make fun of myself as well all the time. (Again, all in a manner and context sometimes that not everyone understands, particularly given that you can't see me or hear my tone of voice). Secondly, I always try to communicate from an honest place. I *never* script anyone - how could I do that? I have no power or control over what anyone except myself writes. Everyone here has a choice if and how, they respond. Share ignores most of what I comment to her on; she certainly never responds the way I think she ought; I am not her keeper, but like everyone here, including me, if she posts, she runs the risk of receiving feedback. If that bothers her, than she has the option not to post. Thank you for your feedback; I find it humorous honestly, although quite off-base. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: What you and authfriend don't like is that Share does not respond to you in the way you declare that she ought to, and that makes you mad and mean. You think she should say what you have scripted for her, but of course things don't work that way, and to expect them to is just another way of trying to control another person. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: It's interesting to see the different approaches taken by the Mean Girls. Authfriend practices a kind of knee-jerk negativity that produces crude, nasty attacks. In respect of Share (and Barry), she is All Nasty, All the Time. It doesn't matter what these two write; the response is always the same. Any excuse to belittle, mock, and insult -- that's authfriend's MO. With Emily, it's a little different at first. It starts with the pretense that she doesn't understand or is trying to understand something that Share wrote. No pretense. I *am* trying to understand by asking her to explain what she is saying or thinking or feeling when she says it. Sometimes I am asking her to provide a larger context for her comments because a lot of what she says doesn't make sense to me. I've stated that many, many, times. Objectively, human behavior does interest me, no doubt, and I truly am a sincerely curious sort of person. Emily likes to sound reasonable and sincere, carefully trying to disguise her hostility. I am *sounding* that way because I always give everyone the benefit of the doubt and I am often reasonable and usually sincere, albeit, sometimes within a context or a writing style that you don't seem to pick up on, given this statement of yours. I am not a hostile person and I don't hold onto or maintain hostility on this forum towards anyone ever, really. If I did, I wouldn't stay here. I have certain triggers - Share's mean streak is one of them, when it pops up. I respond to what shows up in the moment, or as a result of watching the trajectory of a conversation unfold. I try to keep a larger picture in mind almost always, even as I may descend into the energy and feeling of a thread as it resonates within me. I may not always succeed in the heat of the moment (in keeping the larger picture at the forefront), but behind the scenes, in my own life, I always go through a process of lessons learned, if you will. I am a human being and I *believe* in the concepts of accountability and humility, for example. This prepares the ground. It's a set up. Then when Share responds, Emily declares the response to be inadequate or shocking, and proceeds to plunge the knife in and twist it as much as she can. Jesus Christ Feste, I have been shocked by Share on many occasions, it's true, and she has deferred and refused to take accountability for her words, or even explain them, on even more occasions. I have also apologized more times and copped to my own actions more than many here and I have stated many times that I always check what I might say to others against my self - I am not a saint nor do I pretend to be. Share has a record of zero on that front. I hold no animosity towards her; I am just objectively stating what I have noticed from her posts here. To
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Apples and oranges, Dick. Can't really compare the loftly self ambition and arrogance that characterizes Obama, with the demonic idiocy of George Bush. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: This NOT a conference call, Mr. Obama - Angela Merkel On 11/29/2013 10:01 AM, doctordumbass@... mailto:doctordumbass@... wrote: I have used the Google. - former President G. W. Bush ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Share, make Google your friend! Missed you at the Thanksgiving dinner yesterday. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... wrote: This morning when I opened Yahoo there was a news story in the top five saying that the family was fleeing the country! Now when I went to find that story, it's gone! On Friday, November 29, 2013 6:24 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: The land of the free. Free to die because of religious beliefs? Fair enough. Plenty of belief systems refuse blood transfusions. I've known TMers who say they would refuse any sort of transplant because they don't want someone else's karma. In fact, I've known people who died because they chose alternative healthcare. Alternative to things that work it would seem. This is why I say natural selection works on the religious too. Not cruel at all, or at least no crueller than it is for you and me. Maybe if I'd read article That's a very cruel comment. I'm on the side of the parents. Since when does the state have the right to inflict chemotherapy on people who don't want it? The family has every right to choose an alternative method of treatment. This is supposed to be the land of the free. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: That's a very cruel comment. I'm on the side of the parents. Since when does the state have the right to inflict chemotherapy on people who don't want it? The family has every right to choose an alternative method of treatment. This is supposed to be the land of the free. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Yup, natural selection works on the religious too. Maybe they'll see the irony in that and stop being so silly. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... wrote: But the State of Ohio wants her to continue the treatment. It appears to me that the girl and her family have the right to forego the treatment if that is their religious preference to do so. http://news.yahoo.com/ohio-amish-girl-cuts-off-contact-amid-chemo-161240343.html http://news.yahoo.com/ohio-amish-girl-cuts-off-contact-amid-chemo-161240343.html
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Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: 00000000, right
Like I said, Feste, Judy doesn't take criticism very gracefully. It's looking like Judy is striking out on all counts today - not one single person is defending her. If anyone dares to say anything about her, she bites back. And there is an echo in here. On 11/29/2013 4:47 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: Um, looks a whole lot different from here, Feste. As for the weird punctuation, you must not get around the Web a lot; it's pretty much standard practice these days for bloggers and commenters when they want to say something emphatically. Poor Richard has been exceedingly frustrated that he can't get me to respond to his trolling (but as I keep saying, if you'd like me to give you a detailed refutation of anything he says about me, just ask). If Share stood up to me, it must have been awfully feebly, because I didn't notice. Xeno's making a total ass of himself, not for the first time. And Barry? He's repeatedly shot himself in the foot trying to get me over the past few days. Trouble is, he doesn't have any ammunition except lies, and for some reason it never dawns on him that his lies are easily disposed of. I guess you've been reading only his posts and not my responses. Want to try again? Feste fumphs: Hey auth, what's with the weird punctuation? Doesn't. Make. Any. Sense. I can only conclude that you have cracked under the recent pressure. First, Share stands up to you. Then Richard J. Williams kicks your ass all over the park, without much reply from you, and then Xeno and Barry put the boot in, just to make sure you don't get up. Not a good week for you on this board, is it? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: *Feste, You. Do. Not. Have. A. Clue.* *Feste the Clueless wrote:* What you and authfriend don't like is that Share does not respond to you in the way you declare that she ought to, and that makes you mad and mean. You think she should say what you have scripted for her, butof course things don't work that way, and to expect them to is just another way of trying to control another person. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: It's interesting to see the different approaches taken by the Mean Girls. Authfriend practices a kind of knee-jerk negativity that produces crude, nasty attacks. In respect of Share (and Barry), she is All Nasty, All the Time. It doesn't matter what these two write; the response is always the same. Any excuse to belittle, mock, and insult -- that's authfriend's MO. With Emily, it's a little different at first. It starts with the pretense that she doesn't understand or is trying to understand something that Share wrote. No pretense. I *am* trying to understand by asking her to explain what she is saying or thinking or feeling when she says it. Sometimes I am asking her to provide a larger context for her comments because a lot of what she says doesn't make sense to me. I've stated that many, many, times. Objectively, human behavior does interest me, no doubt, and I truly am a sincerely curious sort of person. Emily likes to sound reasonable and sincere, carefully trying to disguise her hostility. I am *sounding* that way because I always give everyone the benefit of the doubt and I am often reasonable and usually sincere, albeit, sometimes within a context or a writing style that you don't seem to pick up on, given this statement of yours. I am not a hostile person and I don't hold onto or maintain hostility on this forum towards anyone ever, really. If I did, I wouldn't stay here. I have certain triggers - Share's mean streak is one of them, when it pops up. I respond to what shows up in the moment, or as a result of watching the trajectory of a conversation unfold. I try to keep a larger picture in mind almost always, even as I may descend into the energy and feeling of a thread as it resonates within me. I may not always succeed in the heat of the moment (in keeping the larger picture at the forefront), but behind the scenes, in my own life, I always go through a process of lessons learned, if you will. I am a human being and I *believe* in the concepts of
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Goodness me, just because it's a fad on the Web doesn't mean you have to follow it. It. Makes. No. Sense. At. All. It's. Stupid. I thought you were the sort of person who liked to uphold standards of good, effective writing, but alas, it appears that I am mistaken. I. Am. Sad. About. That. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Feste tries again: Standard practice? You have got to be kidding. Uh, no. I have never seen it before. I. Think. It. Is. Very. Bad. Writing. LOL. Better learn to appreciate Web-speak for the sake of your blood pressure. It's not going anywhere. It's quite fun watching you being a punching bag for everyone else and lamely trying to claim victory. Actually I don't claim victory. The folks throwing the punches and missing (or smacking themselves in the face) are losers without any assistance from me. But I'm glad you're enjoying the spectacle. As for the testosterone pills, I don't need them. Just ask my girlfriend. Mmmm-hmmm. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Um, looks a whole lot different from here, Feste. As for the weird punctuation, you must not get around the Web a lot; it's pretty much standard practice these days for bloggers and commenters when they want to say something emphatically. Poor Richard has been exceedingly frustrated that he can't get me to respond to his trolling (but as I keep saying, if you'd like me to give you a detailed refutation of anything he says about me, just ask). If Share stood up to me, it must have been awfully feebly, because I didn't notice. Xeno's making a total ass of himself, not for the first time. And Barry? He's repeatedly shot himself in the foot trying to get me over the past few days. Trouble is, he doesn't have any ammunition except lies, and for some reason it never dawns on him that his lies are easily disposed of. I guess you've been reading only his posts and not my responses. Want to try again? Feste fumphs: Hey auth, what's with the weird punctuation? Doesn't. Make. Any. Sense. I can only conclude that you have cracked under the recent pressure. First, Share stands up to you. Then Richard J. Williams kicks your ass all over the park, without much reply from you, and then Xeno and Barry put the boot in, just to make sure you don't get up. Not a good week for you on this board, is it? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Feste, You. Do. Not. Have. A. Clue. Feste the Clueless wrote: What you and authfriend don't like is that Share does not respond to you in the way you declare that she ought to, and that makes you mad and mean. You think she should say what you have scripted for her, but of course things don't work that way, and to expect them to is just another way of trying to control another person. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: It's interesting to see the different approaches taken by the Mean Girls. Authfriend practices a kind of knee-jerk negativity that produces crude, nasty attacks. In respect of Share (and Barry), she is All Nasty, All the Time. It doesn't matter what these two write; the response is always the same. Any excuse to belittle, mock, and insult -- that's authfriend's MO. With Emily, it's a little different at first. It starts with the pretense that she doesn't understand or is trying to understand something that Share wrote. No pretense. I *am* trying to understand by asking her to explain what she is saying or thinking or feeling when she says it. Sometimes I am asking her to provide a larger context for her comments because a lot of what she says doesn't make sense to me. I've stated that many, many, times. Objectively, human behavior does interest me, no doubt, and I truly am a sincerely curious sort of person. Emily likes to sound reasonable and sincere, carefully trying to disguise her hostility. I am *sounding* that way because I always give everyone the benefit of the doubt and I am often reasonable and usually sincere, albeit, sometimes within a context or a writing style that you don't seem to pick up on, given this statement of yours. I am not a hostile person and I don't hold onto or maintain hostility on this forum towards anyone ever, really. If I did, I wouldn't stay here. I have certain triggers - Share's mean streak is one of them, when it pops up. I respond to what shows up in the moment, or as a result of watching the trajectory of a conversation unfold. I try to keep a larger picture in mind almost always, even as I may descend into the energy and feeling of a thread as it resonates within me. I may not always succeed in the heat of the moment (in keeping the larger picture at the forefront), but behind the scenes, in my own life, I always go
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Synchronicity. Dang look here, on the Zen Calendar for today out in the outhouse on the shelf right next to that other paper... “In their deepest nature humans are Buddha, as water is ice. And there is not ice without water, so without the Buddha there could be no humans. Woe to them who seek it in the far distance, and know not that it is very near.” -Hakuin The Zen Calendar For 11/29/2013 it’s a daily quote, koan, sutra, or parable to ensure every morning gets off to an enlightened start. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Thanks Doc for your diagnosis too. I concur. Yep, these intellectual guys work way too hard at something that is much simpler as It is. It is, as is Simplest state of Being, with a nose in the human life. It is fabulous in reality. They are so close and so knowledgeable in ways you can feel they just should come back, get their Dome badge updated, sit up and really go for It and git along for the finish line. Like, what else are they dooing? I sense Annex should come back; like he so wants It, should get on back on faculty again and really go for It some more. Attend to It and sit more intently with It more. Is an amazing benefit of Being on MUM faculty for instance, that you get housing, meals, stipend, and the time actually structured to the work day to do long meditation and Be with the Knowledge. It is incredible. It is way better than say, just Federal prison where you just get three squares and some clothes to wear, or just working out in the world. And, hey there are more graduate degrees that can be taken too as a means to Be here. It is a great prescription for finishing a life on earth while you have it. Life is so pitiful and pitiable otherwise. I'd say, Git on with It. It is time for old meditators who do know better to Be here now and git it done, -Buck in the Dome Like what are people waiting for! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote: Interesting. I used to have a lot of visual and auditory experiences in meditation and they always left me confused. I would come out of meditation and deny what I had just *seen* or *heard* until I realized it wasn't a matter of *seeing* or *hearing*, it was a matter of *Being*. I didn't *see* it because I *was* it. *I* was the whole experience. M used to say, Unity, it it's early days, can be very confusing. Never understood what he meant at the time, then it dawned on me. On Friday, November 29, 2013 5:51 AM, anartaxius@... anartaxius@... wrote: There is the experience of wholeness. You are not 'in it', the experience is it; there is nothing attached to it. The mind can play the game of trying to understand it with its habit of conditional thinking but ultimately it just has to surrender to the fact that that doesn't work. The unity does not have to do anything to hold together; it is not like a ball of caramel popcorn stuck together that can come apart. There is what is described as unity, but there is no one in it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: OK - Thank you for revealing your lack of experience with GC. Frankly, it didn't sound to me, as if you knew what you were talking about, when you first brought it up. I am also curious why you think you are in unity. It sounds like your unity has a lot of conditions attached to it, in order to remain unified. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote: The thought popped into my head, and then I put to the keyboard and you read it. As basically an atheist, I seemed to have mostly done an end run around GC, it had no conceptual material to work with, as GC, as M explained it, derives its material from what one's beliefs are in regard to spiritual traditions etc. Still this state is described in various ways. For example the philosopher Plotinus said nous (pure being) falls in love and is simplified into a happy fullness. I remember writing some things long ago that from an emotional point of view correspond with what Buck is writing now, but I did not express it in religious terms. Benchmarks are guide posts but are not rigid time and place dependent markers, and you might experience something of unity even when you are barely transcending as a new meditator, or if you are one of those rare individuals like Ekhart Tolle or Krishnamurti, you might just slip into unity without any preliminaries. Unity throws you off the path, the path dies, you are on your own, and there is no way to doubt it, if it is clear enough. By on your own, I mean there isn't anything else, even though you can refer to your body as 'me' and so forth. Everything that went before is seen through as having been as a fraud. Eventually you can look at it any way you like, as wholeness, as unity, as duality. Everything that was there before is still there except the relationship of thought with experience
[FairfieldLife] RE: Childhood dreams don#39;t have to be let in childhood
Hey Barry, Wanted to let you know how much everyone here (in the family) enjoyed that video. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: Thanks to Red Bull Media House, at least one young boy's dreams became a reality. I simply cannot imagine how many takes and bandages went into the making of this, but it sure paid off: http://vitaminl.tv/video/1?ref=fbs http://vitaminl.tv/video/1?ref=fbs
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I don't follow it because it's a fad. I don't follow it at all, actually; I very rarely use it. But it really isn't stupid--if you think about how it would sound if you said it aloud, you may hear an echo of, say, your mother: You. Get. In. Here. Right. Now. It can be an effective way of emphasizing something. Me, I don't think standards of good writing on a Web forum (i.e., highly informal, conversational) necessarily exclude what would be nonstandard in more formal writing if it adds something--flavor, humor, irony, surprise. It can be creative and entertaining if well used. Given your reaction, I'll most likely use the period-after-every-word effect more often. It's fun to see your stuffy freakout. I believe Barry has used it a few times, but that didn't seem to have upset you. Double standards, perhaps? Feste huffed: Goodness me, just because it's a fad on the Web doesn't mean you have to follow it. It. Makes. No. Sense. At. All. It's. Stupid. I thought you were the sort of person who liked to uphold standards of good, effective writing, but alas, it appears that I am mistaken. I. Am. Sad. About. That. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Feste tries again: Standard practice? You have got to be kidding. Uh, no. I have never seen it before. I. Think. It. Is. Very. Bad. Writing. LOL. Better learn to appreciate Web-speak for the sake of your blood pressure. It's not going anywhere. It's quite fun watching you being a punching bag for everyone else and lamely trying to claim victory. Actually I don't claim victory. The folks throwing the punches and missing (or smacking themselves in the face) are losers without any assistance from me. But I'm glad you're enjoying the spectacle. As for the testosterone pills, I don't need them. Just ask my girlfriend. Mmmm-hmmm.
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Richard bluffs: Feste is correct - it's not standard web practice - I'm no newbie and I've never seen anything like this. On a blog, a discussion group, or on Twitter or Facebook. It's almost bizarre and even more bizarre for Judy to then try and make you feel like it's all your fault. http://lmgtfy.com/?q=period+after+every+word http://lmgtfy.com/?q=period+after+every+word (guffaw) Next time I see it used, I'll save the link for you.
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Are you still insisting that it's pretty much standard practice these days for bloggers and commenters when they want to say something emphatically? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: I don't follow it because it's a fad. I don't follow it at all, actually; I very rarely use it. But it really isn't stupid--if you think about how it would sound if you said it aloud, you may hear an echo of, say, your mother: You. Get. In. Here. Right. Now. It can be an effective way of emphasizing something. Me, I don't think standards of good writing on a Web forum (i.e., highly informal, conversational) necessarily exclude what would be nonstandard in more formal writing if it adds something--flavor, humor, irony, surprise. It can be creative and entertaining if well used. Given your reaction, I'll most likely use the period-after-every-word effect more often. It's fun to see your stuffy freakout. I believe Barry has used it a few times, but that didn't seem to have upset you. Double standards, perhaps? Feste huffed: Goodness me, just because it's a fad on the Web doesn't mean you have to follow it. It. Makes. No. Sense. At. All. It's. Stupid. I thought you were the sort of person who liked to uphold standards of good, effective writing, but alas, it appears that I am mistaken. I. Am. Sad. About. That. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Feste tries again: Standard practice? You have got to be kidding. Uh, no. I have never seen it before. I. Think. It. Is. Very. Bad. Writing. LOL. Better learn to appreciate Web-speak for the sake of your blood pressure. It's not going anywhere. It's quite fun watching you being a punching bag for everyone else and lamely trying to claim victory. Actually I don't claim victory. The folks throwing the punches and missing (or smacking themselves in the face) are losers without any assistance from me. But I'm glad you're enjoying the spectacle. As for the testosterone pills, I don't need them. Just ask my girlfriend. Mmmm-hmmm.
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What is with you? I wouldn't have said it if I didn't mean it. But don't overinterpret. It's not that every time someone wants to be emphatic, they use it. Rather, it's standard in that it's used often enough that most readers have seen it before and don't think it's weird; they understand what it's meant to convey. It's been around for several years now. As I say, next time I see it used, I'll give you the link. Then maybe you can relax. You're getting yourself all worked up over nothing. The Internet is changing how people write, and there ain't a damn thing you can do about it. You didn't answer my question, BTW, as to why you didn't explode in blind rage when Barry has used it. Feste continues to fester: Are you still insisting that it's pretty much standard practice these days for bloggers and commenters when they want to say something emphatically? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: I don't follow it because it's a fad. I don't follow it at all, actually; I very rarely use it. But it really isn't stupid--if you think about how it would sound if you said it aloud, you may hear an echo of, say, your mother: You. Get. In. Here. Right. Now. It can be an effective way of emphasizing something. Me, I don't think standards of good writing on a Web forum (i.e., highly informal, conversational) necessarily exclude what would be nonstandard in more formal writing if it adds something--flavor, humor, irony, surprise. It can be creative and entertaining if well used. Given your reaction, I'll most likely use the period-after-every-word effect more often. It's fun to see your stuffy freakout. I believe Barry has used it a few times, but that didn't seem to have upset you. Double standards, perhaps? Feste huffed: Goodness me, just because it's a fad on the Web doesn't mean you have to follow it. It. Makes. No. Sense. At. All. It's. Stupid. I thought you were the sort of person who liked to uphold standards of good, effective writing, but alas, it appears that I am mistaken. I. Am. Sad. About. That. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Feste tries again: Standard practice? You have got to be kidding. Uh, no. I have never seen it before. I. Think. It. Is. Very. Bad. Writing. LOL. Better learn to appreciate Web-speak for the sake of your blood pressure. It's not going anywhere. It's quite fun watching you being a punching bag for everyone else and lamely trying to claim victory. Actually I don't claim victory. The folks throwing the punches and missing (or smacking themselves in the face) are losers without any assistance from me. But I'm glad you're enjoying the spectacle. As for the testosterone pills, I don't need them. Just ask my girlfriend. Mmmm-hmmm.
[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: The Vivid and Present Threat of Hooliganism on Fairfield Life.
So you think lying is fine too? As I've said before, most folks here are honest. But there are still several Bad Apples (fortunately some of the worst ones have left) who have no inhibitions about lying--in particular, about other FFL members they don't like--and I think that is terribly destructive. It's the essence of unkindness. And it's hardly a matter of old grudges when it continues to this day. I have never been on a Web forum where lying was so complacently tolerated. But it breeds mutual disrespect and lowers standards of civility generally. I would be willing to bet that if there were less tolerance for lying, there would be a lot less unkindness overall. As I've said many times before, life is tough enough when everyone is doing their absolute damndest to be as honest as they possibly can. There's no excuse for making it tougher. IMHO, of course. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: I think people are pretty honest here. The only person who obsesses about lying is you. Your question to Buck is of course just a way of sidestepping the issue of perpetual unkindness. I can see why you would want to do that, since you are the principal purveyor of it. You need to let go of all these old grudges and obsessions. They are negative attachments that do not serve you well. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: How about the lying? You never mention the lying, Buck. Does that mean you think it's OK to lie? Buck huffed: You can't even hardly invite any civilized person to visit here to FFL with what perpetual unkindness has taken over here on this yahoo-group. It is simply appalling that this culture of low meanness and unkindness has got going here. It is no good to have in our house, But I fear most now for the very life of this entire list if this culture of unkindness is not checked. -Buck
[FairfieldLife] RE: Re: A Meditator#39;s Thanksgiving
Antelope Valley Freeway! YES - loved those guys! high five... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius wrote: I think it is kind of like asymptotic lines, which approach each other but never meet, but eventually you get close enough to see there is an end, closure, but you can never quite get there... From an old Firesign Theatre album, the voice reading out the signs that a character in one of their audio plays passes on a Southern California highway: Antelope Freeway, 1 mile Antelope Freeway, 1/2 mile Antelope Freeway, 1/4 mile Antelope Freeway, 1/8 mile Antelope Freeway, 1/16 mile Antelope Freeway, 1/32 mile Antelope Freeway, 1/64 mile... :-)
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You are as responsible as anyone else for creating an atmosphere of mutual disrespect. Do you behave like this in your real, day-to-day life? Is that how you talk to people? I don't think so. The real dishonesty, the real lie, comes from you. I think you are dishonest with yourself. I suspect that the truth, as I mentioned a couple of weeks ago, is that you enjoy being mean. You enjoy hitting out at other people. My guess is that doing so assuages some of the anger that you feel and gives you some kind of safety valve that you find satisfying. You concoct this fake issue of dishonesty and pretend to yourself that you are the virtuous one, standing up for what is right. Unfortunately, the reality is that you are a person in the grip of some very deep-rooted obsessions that make you very difficult and unpleasant to deal with. Your behavior toward Share is a disgrace. It amounts to harassment, and I don't think this forum should put up with it. You wouldn't be able to do it on Facebook, yet you think you can do it here. You should either change your behavior or unsubscribe. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: So you think lying is fine too? As I've said before, most folks here are honest. But there are still several Bad Apples (fortunately some of the worst ones have left) who have no inhibitions about lying--in particular, about other FFL members they don't like--and I think that is terribly destructive. It's the essence of unkindness. And it's hardly a matter of old grudges when it continues to this day. I have never been on a Web forum where lying was so complacently tolerated. But it breeds mutual disrespect and lowers standards of civility generally. I would be willing to bet that if there were less tolerance for lying, there would be a lot less unkindness overall. As I've said many times before, life is tough enough when everyone is doing their absolute damndest to be as honest as they possibly can. There's no excuse for making it tougher. IMHO, of course. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: I think people are pretty honest here. The only person who obsesses about lying is you. Your question to Buck is of course just a way of sidestepping the issue of perpetual unkindness. I can see why you would want to do that, since you are the principal purveyor of it. You need to let go of all these old grudges and obsessions. They are negative attachments that do not serve you well. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: How about the lying? You never mention the lying, Buck. Does that mean you think it's OK to lie? Buck huffed: You can't even hardly invite any civilized person to visit here to FFL with what perpetual unkindness has taken over here on this yahoo-group. It is simply appalling that this culture of low meanness and unkindness has got going here. It is no good to have in our house, But I fear most now for the very life of this entire list if this culture of unkindness is not checked. -Buck
[FairfieldLife] Confirmation bias in the TM movement
Confirmation bias is a tendency to favour information that confirms beliefs. People display this bias when they gather information selectively, or when they interpret it in a biased way. The effect is stronger for emotionally charged issues and for deeply entrenched beliefs. So how does it work? Many people learned TM back in the glory days. How did they fare? Well, some of them dropped into the rabbit hole at the first initiation and had a Damascus Road experience and became convinced converts on the spot. At the other end of the scale, some people thought, Well, yes. I repeated a syllable for 20 minutes. I guess I feel kinda relaxed. Is that it? The latter group would carry on meditating for a month or so and eventually get bored and drop the practice. The former group - those who were sold on the technique - became enthusiastic meditators and eventually moved on to become TM teachers and sidhi practitioners. They mixed with others exactly like themselves and naturally thought that this was the universal effect of TM on everybody else. When they later went out into the world of the common people and encountered those whose results were less earth-shaking they insisted such doubting souls should have their meditation checked. Now here is were confusion was worse confounded: some of those they counselled did indeed later have more valuable results after checking. That led the teachers to assume that *everyone else* whose experiences didn't match their own must be at fault. But what say they were wrong? Look. In meditation you're asking someone to revert their attention 180 degrees from the objective world to the subjective experience. Isn't it obvious that for some people that could trigger an ecstatic kundalini blow-out but for others it could be a trivial event. It depends on individual psychology. In fact, for a small minority, I imagine it could be positively harmful and actually damage their nervous system. If you're contacting the Universal Field and you're a fragile individual that could be like connecting a low-watt light bulb to a high-voltage supply. My point is that I'm very happy if TM has proved a life-changing boon for some people; or has proved a useful re-charge-cum-re-boot for those like me. But I don't have any issue with accepting that for many it's almost completely useless and for a minority could be positively harmful. A little humility may be in order.
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I don't think you have even remotely established this as standard practice. On the contrary, it's an unusual deviation from the norm. I wasn't impressed by the link you provided. It was a lot of people asking about the use of periods after every word, but not a single example that I could see. Nor have I seen a single example of its use by a good writer. Where are these blogs in which it is standard practice? In answer to your question, I do not in general read Turquoise B. He is a mean S.O.B. so I usually avoid him. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: What is with you? I wouldn't have said it if I didn't mean it. But don't overinterpret. It's not that every time someone wants to be emphatic, they use it. Rather, it's standard in that it's used often enough that most readers have seen it before and don't think it's weird; they understand what it's meant to convey. It's been around for several years now. As I say, next time I see it used, I'll give you the link. Then maybe you can relax. You're getting yourself all worked up over nothing. The Internet is changing how people write, and there ain't a damn thing you can do about it. You didn't answer my question, BTW, as to why you didn't explode in blind rage when Barry has used it. Feste continues to fester: Are you still insisting that it's pretty much standard practice these days for bloggers and commenters when they want to say something emphatically? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: I don't follow it because it's a fad. I don't follow it at all, actually; I very rarely use it. But it really isn't stupid--if you think about how it would sound if you said it aloud, you may hear an echo of, say, your mother: You. Get. In. Here. Right. Now. It can be an effective way of emphasizing something. Me, I don't think standards of good writing on a Web forum (i.e., highly informal, conversational) necessarily exclude what would be nonstandard in more formal writing if it adds something--flavor, humor, irony, surprise. It can be creative and entertaining if well used. Given your reaction, I'll most likely use the period-after-every-word effect more often. It's fun to see your stuffy freakout. I believe Barry has used it a few times, but that didn't seem to have upset you. Double standards, perhaps? Feste huffed: Goodness me, just because it's a fad on the Web doesn't mean you have to follow it. It. Makes. No. Sense. At. All. It's. Stupid. I thought you were the sort of person who liked to uphold standards of good, effective writing, but alas, it appears that I am mistaken. I. Am. Sad. About. That. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Feste tries again: Standard practice? You have got to be kidding. Uh, no. I have never seen it before. I. Think. It. Is. Very. Bad. Writing. LOL. Better learn to appreciate Web-speak for the sake of your blood pressure. It's not going anywhere. It's quite fun watching you being a punching bag for everyone else and lamely trying to claim victory. Actually I don't claim victory. The folks throwing the punches and missing (or smacking themselves in the face) are losers without any assistance from me. But I'm glad you're enjoying the spectacle. As for the testosterone pills, I don't need them. Just ask my girlfriend. Mmmm-hmmm.
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Feste, You. Still. Do. Not. Have. A. Clue. Are you familiar with the term false equivalency? What a hypocrite you are. Not to mention a male chauvinist. It's perfectly OK with you for Barry to beat up on people he doesn't like with far, far worse nastiness than I could ever dream of managing. Including your precious Share. Remember his SHUT THE FUCK UP post to her? (Do you remember that Ann, Emily, and I tried to get her to stand up for herself instead of continuing to let him maul her?) And then that he actually repeated it just recently? I don't recall a word from you about either of those posts (do remind me if I'm wrong). Or any others of Barry's many hundreds of sadistic attacks, for that matter. Not to mention the unending lies in those attacks. Barry's gross and slanderous dishonesty is not a fake issue. You don't have a damn thing to say to me until you open your eyes, get your head on straight, and see who's doing the real damage to this forum. I'm a piker compared to Barry. And you are a coward. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: You are as responsible as anyone else for creating an atmosphere of mutual disrespect. Do you behave like this in your real, day-to-day life? Is that how you talk to people? I don't think so. The real dishonesty, the real lie, comes from you. I think you are dishonest with yourself. I suspect that the truth, as I mentioned a couple of weeks ago, is that you enjoy being mean. You enjoy hitting out at other people. My guess is that doing so assuages some of the anger that you feel and gives you some kind of safety valve that you find satisfying. You concoct this fake issue of dishonesty and pretend to yourself that you are the virtuous one, standing up for what is right. Unfortunately, the reality is that you are a person in the grip of some very deep-rooted obsessions that make you very difficult and unpleasant to deal with. Your behavior toward Share is a disgrace. It amounts to harassment, and I don't think this forum should put up with it. You wouldn't be able to do it on Facebook, yet you think you can do it here. You should either change your behavior or unsubscribe. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: So you think lying is fine too? As I've said before, most folks here are honest. But there are still several Bad Apples (fortunately some of the worst ones have left) who have no inhibitions about lying--in particular, about other FFL members they don't like--and I think that is terribly destructive. It's the essence of unkindness. And it's hardly a matter of old grudges when it continues to this day. I have never been on a Web forum where lying was so complacently tolerated. But it breeds mutual disrespect and lowers standards of civility generally. I would be willing to bet that if there were less tolerance for lying, there would be a lot less unkindness overall. As I've said many times before, life is tough enough when everyone is doing their absolute damndest to be as honest as they possibly can. There's no excuse for making it tougher. IMHO, of course. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: I think people are pretty honest here. The only person who obsesses about lying is you. Your question to Buck is of course just a way of sidestepping the issue of perpetual unkindness. I can see why you would want to do that, since you are the principal purveyor of it. You need to let go of all these old grudges and obsessions. They are negative attachments that do not serve you well. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: How about the lying? You never mention the lying, Buck. Does that mean you think it's OK to lie? Buck huffed: You can't even hardly invite any civilized person to visit here to FFL with what perpetual unkindness has taken over here on this yahoo-group. It is simply appalling that this culture of low meanness and unkindness has got going here. It is no good to have in our house, But I fear most now for the very life of this entire list if this culture of unkindness is not checked. -Buck
