[FairfieldLife] Re: Is TM a New Religion? The Federal District Court
A steering wheel isn't a car either, (but an instrumental part of a car) it's disingenuous to suggest TM is not Religious when it comes from the Sanatana Dharma or eternal Religion of the Vedas. TM should be classified as a Religious Science, clearly it's not JUST a scientific technique. Zeus has spoken!!
[FairfieldLife] The spiritual marriage of Shiva and Shakti
Hinduism's Yoni/Lingam is symbolic of the spiritual marriage of Shiva (our own higher spiritual nature) and Shakti (the serpent fire at the base of our spine, kundalini). The 'star of David' is also symbolic of this spiritual marriage that occurs when the prana in the sushumna rises during meditation and embraces it's Lord, Shiva, bingo, Enlightenment. Notice all the pictures of Shiva and the 'snake' behind him, this is symbolizing the mastering of the kundalini/sex force which can create (enlightenment) or destroy when left uncontrolled (sexual over indulgence). The symbolic snake has been ubiquitous in all the great myths and ancient Religions even in Mayan cultures. Remember Moses' snake? In TM, we eventually will have to raise this Kundalini force at the base of the spine to reach self and God Realization, whether passively or actively. Ayurved is an effort to 'clear' these channels (vayus), for the *key* to Yoga is the awakening of the Kundalini! So when Hindus 'worship' the Lingam it is reverencing the highest goal possible by mankind, the spiritual marriage of Shiva/Shakti. For those of you who don't already know this. :-) (Took me a while to figure it out)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Jerry Brown: California might need a wall if Trump wins
After Hillary wins, I think we'll be headed to a civil war, the South will succeed and take all the illegal aliens hostage! and barter them for coal.
Re: [FairfieldLife] 'International Conference for Re-establishing Vedic India' / HIGHLIGHTS
MMY's true goals finally surface! This is what it was all about from the very beginning. Even Charlie Lutes said as much. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richard@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Ha ha ha ha! Typical Movement bullshit. Label the conference as something not really TM-ish, but then stack the deck with Movement shills and junkies. Won't accomplish shit, but you gotta admire the TMO for trying to to get more and more and more stupid people to give them money. One thing is for sure - you sucked as a dish-washer! YOU WILL NEVER BE ALLOWED TO STACK DISHES IN THE MUM CAMPUS KITCHEN EVER AGAIN. LoL! From: email4you mikemail4you@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: Email4you mikemail4you@... Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2015 4:42 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] 'International Conference for Re-establishing Vedic India' / HIGHLIGHTS even The Dalai Lama sent his greetings and full support for reaching the conference goals Following are just a few of the highlights from the 'International Conference for Re-establishing Vedic India', which featured many of India's leading scientists, educators, government ministers and spiritual luminaries--and also prominent Vedic Scientists, educators and researchers from all parts of the world. Dr Peter Swan gives a beautiful, detailed overview of this historic conference, with slides, anecdotes, and descriptions of the speakers and their topics on the Maharishi Channel's 'Family Chat'. Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaram (Dr Tony Nader) gave an overview of Vedic Science in light of Maharishi's insights: he explained that Vedic Science is not a philosophy or religion--or just inspiring stories. Vedic Science is the complete understanding of how Nature functions--both on the level of individual life, and all life in the universe. In great detail, he described the many ways that Maharishi revitalized the understanding of Vedic Science and brought out the techniques to experience Enlightenment--the fundamental reality that 'I am the Veda'. His talk highlighted the beauty and simplicity of Maharishi's Vedic Science and technologies: the reality that problems are many in the world but the solution is one--the experience of that divinity which is there within everyone. The revered Shankaracharya of Jyotir Math, Vasudevananda Saraswati, gave a beautiful and stirring tribute to the ever growing impact of Maharishi's revival of Vedic Science in the world. And he congratulated Maharaja and all the scientists who are upholding the purity and completeness of this knowledge. He echoed the words of Maharaja: 'Vedic Science is not just for India--it is for the world'. And he pledged his complete support for implementing Maharishi's programmes to bring peace and prosperity to all lands and people. Shankaracharya ji presided over every session of the three day conference. He said: This knowledge is for everyone--Muslims, Hindus, Christians, Jews, everyone. Maharaja has brought Maharishi's knowledge from modern science and Vedic Science and we will take it! I pray God, I wish, and I demand that we shine the light of Veda--that we shine the light of harmony--throughout India and the world. Yogashri Swami Ram Dev ji, is considered by many to be the greatest living Yogi in India. He spoke with enormous enthusiasm about Maharishi's revival of knowledge, and Maharaja's leadership in the world. He promised to speak with Prime Minister Narendra Modi about implementing Maharishi's programmes for India, and he said that he wanted to sponsor the next such conference on Vedic Science. He requested that all the leading scientists that Maharishi had trained so perfectly, should again and again come to India to help with this great work. He said: Maharishi has done all the work by breaking down the barriers--by introducing Transcendental Meditation, Yoga, and Vedic Wisdom to the whole world. There are so many teachers in the field of Yoga--but we should all be learning from Maharishi. This is the real Vedic Yoga, that Maharishi ji has given to the world. He added: Maharaja has given up everything in the service of Maharishi--when we do that, when we give ourselves completely to service, then the whole world works for us! (followed by great laughter)...The world is fascinated by wealth, but it will never bring happiness and peace. Complete knowledge--this is what Maharaja is giving, and all his saintly scientists and educators. I salute Maharishi ji--that great Maha Purusha! Maharishi has brought you all, the vanguard of Vedic Knowledge in the world--the holy, pious priests of Vedic Wisdom--a blessing for the whole world. Swami Amritaswaroopananda Puri is the senior disciple of Amma ji. He spoke about the importance of the Vedic principle of harmony. He said that this conference would surely become the inspiration for a coherent effort to
[FairfieldLife] Global warming biggest science scandal ever-paper.
The fiddling with temperature data is the biggest science scandal ever New data shows that the “vanishing” of polar ice is not the result of runaway global warming 2K 925 7 13 3K Email The “vanishing” of polar ice (and the polar bears) has become a poster-child for warmists. Photo: ALAMY http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/ By Christopher Booker 10:15PM GMT 07 Feb 2015 1628 Comments http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/earth/environment/globalwarming/11395516/The-fiddling-with-temperature-data-is-the-biggest-science-scandal-ever.html#disqus_thread When future generations look back on the global-warming scare of the past 30 years, nothing will shock them more than the extent to which the official temperature records – on which the entire panic ultimately rested – were systematically “adjusted” to show the Earth as having warmed much more than the actual data justified. Two weeks ago, under the headline “How we are being tricked by flawed data on global warming”, I wrote about Paul Homewood, who, on his Notalotofpeopleknowthat blog, had checked the published temperature graphs for three weather stations in Paraguay against the temperatures that had originally been recorded. In each instance, the actual trend of 60 years of data had been dramatically reversed, so that a cooling trend was changed to one that showed a marked warming. This was only the latest of many examples of a practice long recognised by expert observers around the world – one that raises an ever larger question mark over the entire official surface-temperature record. Following my last article, Homewood checked a swathe of other South American weather stations around the original three. In each case he found the same suspicious one-way “adjustments”. First these were made by the US government’s Global Historical Climate Network (GHCN). They were then amplified by two of the main official surface records, the Goddard Institute for Space Studies (Giss) and the National Climate Data Center (NCDC), which use the warming trends to estimate temperatures across the vast regions of the Earth where no measurements are taken. Yet these are the very records on which scientists and politicians rely for their belief in “global warming”. Homewood has now turned his attention to the weather stations across much of the Arctic, between Canada (51 degrees W) and the heart of Siberia (87 degrees E). Again, in nearly every case, the same one-way adjustments have been made, to show warming up to 1 degree C or more higher than was indicated by the data that was actually recorded. This has surprised no one more than Traust Jonsson, who was long in charge of climate research for the Iceland met office (and with whom Homewood has been in touch). Jonsson was amazed to see how the new version completely “disappears” Iceland’s “sea ice years” around 1970, when a period of extreme cooling almost devastated his country’s economy. Related Articles Barack Obama's personal battle against climate change http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/earth/environment/11365583/Barack-Obamas-personal-battle-against-climate-change.html 23 Jan 2015 Rise in sea levels is 'faster than we thought' http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/earth/environment/climatechange/11346154/Rise-in-sea-levels-is-faster-than-we-thought.html 14 Jan 2015 One of the first examples of these “adjustments” was exposed in 2007 by the statistician Steve McIntyre, when he discovered a paper published in 1987 by James Hansen, the scientist (later turned fanatical climate activist) who for many years ran Giss. Hansen’s original graph showed temperatures in the Arctic as having been much higher around 1940 than at any time since. But as Homewood reveals in his blog post, “Temperature adjustments transform Arctic history”, Giss has turned this upside down. Arctic temperatures from that time have been lowered so much that that they are now dwarfed by those of the past 20 years. Homewood’s interest in the Arctic is partly because the “vanishing” of its polar ice (and the polar bears) has become such a poster-child for those trying to persuade us that we are threatened by runaway warming. But he chose that particular stretch of the Arctic because it is where ice is affected by warmer water brought in by cyclical shifts in a major Atlantic current – this last peaked at just the time 75 years ago when Arctic ice retreated even further than it has done recently. The ice-melt is not caused by rising global temperatures at all. Of much more serious significance, however, is the way this wholesale manipulation of the official temperature record – for reasons GHCN and Giss have never plausibly explained – has become the real elephant in the room of the greatest and most costly scare the world has known. This really does begin to look like one of the
[FairfieldLife] Re: Religion itself is a strawman
Ignorance is so think (in this world) you could cut it with a knife, Jerry Jarvis. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jason_green2@... wrote : The point is, fraudulent people use fraudulent religions as a smokescreen, to advance their own fraudulent agenda. The modern civilisation still hasn't reconciled itself with the darker side of islamic ideology. The educational system in these countries only makes it worse. They churn out mindless zombies. --- anartaxius@... wrote : Religious taboos are memes, concepts designed to protect ideas that do not stand up to scrutiny from being scrutinised by way of coercion and fear, an attempt to condition the mind, which is naturally curious, from directing its attention in the direction of such scrutiny. 'It will not do to investigate the subject of religion too closely, as it is apt to lead to Infidelity.' —Abraham Lincoln --- s3raphita@... wrote : Thanks. Yes, he seems to be making the same point as I just have. Re I don't think cowardice comes into it.: well, in The Guardian's case it seems not - judging from the article; but in may other cases fear is for sure playing a part. --- salyavin808 @... wrote : Je suis d'accord, though my instinct is to feel pity rather than disgust - and then Saudi Arabia publicly flogs a journalist for running a liberal website on the same day they condemn the killings in Paris and I'm disgusted too: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/11/flogging-global-outrage-saudi-arabia-silent http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/11/flogging-global-outrage-saudi-arabia-silent --- turquoiseb@... wrote : Yep, as I was saying a few days ago when Feste was urging us to respect Muslims' religious beliefs, how exactly are we supposed to feel anything but disgust for a group that really believes it's permissible to order a hit on anyone who creates an image of a human being? I know that the Guardian ran this story because they believe that this nut job cleric is out of the ordinary and a bit of a statistical outlier, but it is actually *standard Sunni Muslim dogma* that creating images of human beings is worshipping idols and thus punishable by death. Technically, the Charlie Hebdo murders would have been justified in these fanatics' eyes if they'd published completely reverential images of Mohammed. So I'm sorry, but anyone who dares to tell me that I have to respect these people's religion is as insane as they are. Anyone who believes this shit is either stuck in the Middle Ages or insane or both, and we have a responsibility to other sane human beings to point it out.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Eenie, meenie, miney, moe; enjoy and Merry Christmas.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Some Fairfield, Iowa Age of Enlightenment News:
MMY was a Hindu monk and never claimed to be enlightened, I personally don't think he was. However TM works, that should be a relevant factor in the overall merits of the TM program IMHO.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi - Eliminating Stress and Stabilizing Unbounded
The resistances are Lust, Anger, Greed, etc. (In Yoga, the Doshas) what MMY uses the 'catch-all' phrase 'stress' for. Additionally, Patanjali meant for us to practice not only step 8 or Samadhi/meditation but the ethical virtues as well (steps 1 2 Yama and NiYama) in order to achieve this over-all goal of Yoga or Union. Even MMY himself says in his Gita under Yoga in the appendix that Patanjali meant all limbs of Yoga to be practiced simultaneously, MMY's words, not mine!
[FairfieldLife] Dosha=defect (Sanskrit)
Dosha : Defect ; imperfection ; blemish ; fault ; shortcoming . In Yoga philosophy there are five doshas : lust ( kama ) , anger ( krodha ) , greed ( lobha ) , delusion ( moha ) , and envy ( matsarya ).
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dosha=defect (Sanskrit)
In *AyurVed* the doshas meaning is different. Dosha in Ayurved are the three humors of the body; kapha, pitta, and vata. In *Yoga* the meaning is-Dosha : Defect ; imperfection ; blemish ; fault ; shortcoming . In Yoga philosophy there are five doshas : lust ( kama ) , anger ( krodha ) , greed ( lobha ) , delusion ( moha ) , and envy ( matsarya ).
[FairfieldLife] MMY's catch-all phrase for the doshas is 'stress'
Are you beginning to 'get' what MMY was talking about when he was talking about stress? Lust, Anger, Greed to name a few, (the doshas). These, are the sleeping elephants MMY used to talk about in the early days, IMHO.
[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY's catch-all phrase for the doshas is 'stress'
So, Lawson, you don't know what you're talking about. Study up on the word Dosha from the Sanskrit dictionary. Thanks. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Here is Brahmananda Saraswati, talking about the six enemies (aka stress): In truth then victory is really this; for the one who has no risk of inner defeat. In truth, by the suppression only of outer (usual) enemies no one can become permanently victorious; because from those enemies there is no lasting suppression. True knowledge of victory occurs then from obtaining control over internal enemies. Really, only by the permanent subjugation of internal enemies is the subjugation of the external enemy achieved; because the inner enemy gives rise to the creation of the external enemies. The internal enemies are kaama (lust), krodha (anger), lobha (greed), moha (delusion), mada (intoxification) and maatsarya (jealousy). This is really the shhaDarivarga, the group of six inner enemies which create any external enemies of the world; therefore if you wish to experience happiness and peace one must gain victory over all one's gross enemies, then you should cut off the place of birth of the six subtle enemies, kaama (lust), krodha (anger), lobha (greed), moha (delusion), mada(intoxification) and maatsarya (jealousy). Without gaining victory over the shhaDarivarga (group of six enemies) then you cannot completely irradicate the external enemies. This is fixed. This is the proven experience of those who have gained victory over these internal subtle enemies, that if the birthplace of the external enemies becomes destroyed and all enemies have become eradicated then afterwards no enemies remain and in truth this is considered to be a real victory. For him the true and lasting store-house of happiness and peace is opened. Jai Guru Dev ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote : Doshas aren't stress, in Maharishi's eyes, as far as I know. Samskaras are stress. The term doṣa literally means contamination but I don't think that Maharishi ever used it in that sense. That is more a Buddhist thing to use doṣa to refer to lust, etc.. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Are you beginning to 'get' what MMY was talking about when he was talking about stress? Lust, Anger, Greed to name a few, (the doshas). These, are the sleeping elephants MMY used to talk about in the early days, IMHO.
[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY's catch-all phrase for the doshas is 'stress'
Fleetwood-Nice quote, the real Jihad is the inner one, though that is accomplished by the inner AND outer disciplines. This is the REAL teaching of Yoga as defined by SBS and loosely referred to by MMY. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Here is Brahmananda Saraswati, talking about the six enemies (aka stress): In truth then victory is really this; for the one who has no risk of inner defeat. In truth, by the suppression only of outer (usual) enemies no one can become permanently victorious; because from those enemies there is no lasting suppression. True knowledge of victory occurs then from obtaining control over internal enemies. Really, only by the permanent subjugation of internal enemies is the subjugation of the external enemy achieved; because the inner enemy gives rise to the creation of the external enemies. The internal enemies are kaama (lust), krodha (anger), lobha (greed), moha (delusion), mada (intoxification) and maatsarya (jealousy). This is really the shhaDarivarga, the group of six inner enemies which create any external enemies of the world; therefore if you wish to experience happiness and peace one must gain victory over all one's gross enemies, then you should cut off the place of birth of the six subtle enemies, kaama (lust), krodha (anger), lobha (greed), moha (delusion), mada(intoxification) and maatsarya (jealousy). Without gaining victory over the shhaDarivarga (group of six enemies) then you cannot completely irradicate the external enemies. This is fixed. This is the proven experience of those who have gained victory over these internal subtle enemies, that if the birthplace of the external enemies becomes destroyed and all enemies have become eradicated then afterwards no enemies remain and in truth this is considered to be a real victory. For him the true and lasting store-house of happiness and peace is opened. Jai Guru Dev ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote : Doshas aren't stress, in Maharishi's eyes, as far as I know. Samskaras are stress. The term doṣa literally means contamination but I don't think that Maharishi ever used it in that sense. That is more a Buddhist thing to use doṣa to refer to lust, etc.. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Are you beginning to 'get' what MMY was talking about when he was talking about stress? Lust, Anger, Greed to name a few, (the doshas). These, are the sleeping elephants MMY used to talk about in the early days, IMHO.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY's catch-all phrase for the doshas is 'stress'
Doubtful; he was basically a Religious Devout Hindu who thought he could cleverly convert the West to Indian culture. That's it in a nutshell! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : he left them alone because he was morally bankrupt - a liar, womanizer, thief and con artist and flim flam man. From: fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 2:02 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY's catch-all phrase for the doshas is 'stress' Thank you. Yep - Maharishi was probably wise to leave alone any sort of moral precepts, as he wanted the TM technique available as widely as possible, vs. taking on the various religious creeds. As desires become more comprehensive, these enemies must be faced anyway, and resolved, so that further growth is possible. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Fleetwood-Nice quote, the real Jihad is the inner one, though that is accomplished by the inner AND outer disciplines. This is the REAL teaching of Yoga as defined by SBS and loosely referred to by MMY. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Here is Brahmananda Saraswati, talking about the six enemies (aka stress): In truth then victory is really this; for the one who has no risk of inner defeat. In truth, by the suppression only of outer (usual) enemies no one can become permanently victorious; because from those enemies there is no lasting suppression. True knowledge of victory occurs then from obtaining control over internal enemies. Really, only by the permanent subjugation of internal enemies is the subjugation of the external enemy achieved; because the inner enemy gives rise to the creation of the external enemies. The internal enemies are kaama (lust), krodha (anger), lobha (greed), moha (delusion), mada (intoxification) and maatsarya (jealousy). This is really the shhaDarivarga, the group of six inner enemies which create any external enemies of the world; therefore if you wish to experience happiness and peace one must gain victory over all one's gross enemies, then you should cut off the place of birth of the six subtle enemies, kaama (lust), krodha (anger), lobha (greed), moha (delusion), mada(intoxification) and maatsarya (jealousy). Without gaining victory over the shhaDarivarga (group of six enemies) then you cannot completely irradicate the external enemies. This is fixed. This is the proven experience of those who have gained victory over these internal subtle enemies, that if the birthplace of the external enemies becomes destroyed and all enemies have become eradicated then afterwards no enemies remain and in truth this is considered to be a real victory. For him the true and lasting store-house of happiness and peace is opened. Jai Guru Dev ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote : Doshas aren't stress, in Maharishi's eyes, as far as I know. Samskaras are stress. The term doṣa literally means contamination but I don't think that Maharishi ever used it in that sense. That is more a Buddhist thing to use doṣa to refer to lust, etc.. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Are you beginning to 'get' what MMY was talking about when he was talking about stress? Lust, Anger, Greed to name a few, (the doshas). These, are the sleeping elephants MMY used to talk about in the early days, IMHO.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY's catch-all phrase for the doshas is 'stress'
L.-though you are correct Samskaras denote impressions or groves, it does NOT define the NATURE of those groves or impediments, dosha does! These are MMY's 'sleeping elephants'. Dosha is not a Buddhist term, per se. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote : Indeed. But all experiences, for an unenlightened person, take one away from pure consciousness. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Samskaras are impressions. Without them you wouldn't know anything! :-D On 11/26/2014 09:25 AM, LEnglish5@... mailto:LEnglish5@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Doshas aren't stress, in Maharishi's eyes, as far as I know. Samskaras are stress. The term doṣa literally means contamination but I don't think that Maharishi ever used it in that sense. That is more a Buddhist thing to use doṣa to refer to lust, etc.. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Are you beginning to 'get' what MMY was talking about when he was talking about stress? Lust, Anger, Greed to name a few, (the doshas). These, are the sleeping elephants MMY used to talk about in the early days, IMHO.
[FairfieldLife] Man made Global Warming Strikes again!
Great Lakes ice cover developing; Earliest in over 40 years http://ads.mlive.com/RealMedia/ads/click_lx.ads/www.mlive.com/weather/2014/11/great_lakes_ice_cover_developi.html/67659060/StoryAd/MICHIGANLIVE/default/empty.gif/61434664556c527a7471734141717248 Ice is already starting to develop on Michigan's Great Lakes. This is the earliest ice on some of the Great Lakes in at least 40 years. According to the Great Lakes Environmental Research Laboratory http://www.glerl.noaa.gov/, on November 20, 2014, Three of Michigan's Great Lakes had ice starting to form. Lake Superior and Lake Michigan were one-half percent ice covered, while Lake Huron had one percent ice. Lake Erie was not reporting any ice as of Nov. 20, 2014. Decent early season ice coverage records date back to 1973. Last Friday was the earliest date that all three Great Lakes already had ice since the better reporting of early season ice began. Lake Superior actually had ice forming on November 15th of this year. That is the earliest ice on Lake Superior in the good data set. Lakes Superior, Michigan and Huron had ice 10 days earlier this year than last year. Lake Superior only had five and a half months without any ice on the lake. Chris Cla http://connect.mlive.com/staff/cclark/photos.html
[FairfieldLife] Obama legalizing undocumented Democrats
Are ya happy now Democrats?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pipeline Protest
Lower oil prices will stimulate the economy providing more money for RD on Solar, Wind and alternative energy.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pipeline Protest
right on dixon
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good
Curtis-wiki is useful, but not the final word. Hear, see and speak no evil is just a catch-all phrase meaning stay on the positive side of life, IMHO. If you entertain evil, indulge in evil, speak evil it pollutes your own soul, why gossip? You take on that evil, it 'soils' your own soul. It doesn't mean we don't see things for what they are, we just don't indulge in them in the same manner. MMY was saying the same thing, I hope this helps you understand MMY better. Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves. Matt 10:16 King James
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good
right on, the 'bright side', not the 'dark' side! Don't go to the negative side of life, MMY/paraphrased
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good
Every heard of-Hear no Evil, See no Evil, Speak no Evil? MMY was saying the same thing, it's a universal truth applicable to everyone. MMY described the why very well I thought, there's nothing there, sorry Charlie.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Scientist Reviews Three Types of Meditation
Sounds like MMY, Share.. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : wgm, I heard from a TM teacher friend that Maharishi once said that if you have any habits you want to change, good to do so before CC. Because after CC, you'll simply witness them! From: wgm4u no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 6:01 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Scientist Reviews Three Types of Meditation Dr. Johnson says-The TM technique allows your mind to easily and effortlessly settle inward, through quieter levels of thought, until you experience the most silent and peaceful level of your own awareness—pure consciousness. I say-Yes, this is *eventually* true, but in practice it takes many years of dedicated practice to achieve this (pure consciousness) and some say even lifetimes of practice. So what MMY teaches is correct, only, the devil (time) is in the details which MMY conveniently left out or perhaps didn't know himself. He apparently thought after a few years of TM all of your vices would magically disappear and your didn't even have to try to get rid of them..what a joke!
[FairfieldLife] Re: A Scientist Reviews Three Types of Meditation
Dr. Johnson says-The TM technique allows your mind to easily and effortlessly settle inward, through quieter levels of thought, until you experience the most silent and peaceful level of your own awareness—pure consciousness. I say-Yes, this is *eventually* true, but in practice it takes many years of dedicated practice to achieve this (pure consciousness) and some say even lifetimes of practice. So what MMY teaches is correct, only, the devil (time) is in the details which MMY conveniently left out or perhaps didn't know himself. He apparently thought after a few years of TM all of your vices would magically disappear and your didn't even have to try to get rid of them..what a joke!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Land of the Veda
We just trap 'em and kill 'em here in America, No problem; problem solved! Humans have right too!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Iowa goes Red
right on MJ-Finally some coherence in the National Consciousness! Damn Democracy, damn democracy
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Mechanics of Consciousness
True, but a very esoteric teaching that ONLY experience can bear out, certainly Turq will never understand it!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: He Came Out Of The Himalayas
I didn't know Maharishi recommended being Gay! Are you sure...?
[FairfieldLife] Re: He Came Out Of The Himalayas
Most people fall asleep around the 3rd bubble and never do get to the transcendent, but hey, that's better than nothing and sometimes you may even get a glimpse of what's beyond, like MMY said: you know it's a house and not a tree, in 7 steps of instruction.
[FairfieldLife] Re: More Movement BS to get rich
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's declining brain functioning
I think Curtis has a point, MMY didn't always answer questions directly, I believe he felt the ends justified the means and yes, he did use hyperbole. But to see him as a money grubbing fool is missing the point. MMY was a religious Hindu fundamentalist, IMHO, which explains everything! He really wanted World Peace, he really cared for people and the World, he was a good man and helped many. He really believed, World Peace is just a matter of money, (to support the group program), even Christians believe in the power of groups praying the Rosary, TM and TMSP is basically the same dynamic
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's declining brain functioning
Right on bro, and anyone who can play a guitar, harmonica and drum is OK in my book! ;-) I also question whether he actually bought into the ME effect, apparently Hagelin's idea? Helen Lutes apparently once said, He tricked us into being spiritual, so yeah, MMY thought the ends justified the means, and hey, maybe they do?... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : I totally agree that Maharishi was a believer in his Hindu religious beliefs. Unfortunately that included a view of dispensable Westerners as cash cows for his holy purposes. He called us non Indians the mix ups in India because we could not trace our shakka clan lineage. He used us for the purpose he believed suited us best, financial exploitation. But your point is one that I share about his beliefs in much of his own rap. I am not sure how cynical he was about the flying program though. I am not sure he believed in it as much as his TM, but I could be wrong. At the time he developed the siddhi program he was so obviously winging it I am kinda skeptical. It was a huge cash cow for the movement when initiations had dropped off. Certainly a complex guy and worthy of many nuanced POVs about him. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I think Curtis has a point, MMY didn't always answer questions directly, I believe he felt the ends justified the means and yes, he did use hyperbole. But to see him as a money grubbing fool is missing the point. MMY was a religious Hindu fundamentalist, IMHO, which explains everything! He really wanted World Peace, he really cared for people and the World, he was a good man and helped many. He really believed, World Peace is just a matter of money, (to support the group program), even Christians believe in the power of groups praying the Rosary, TM and TMSP is basically the same dynamic
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's declining brain functioning
Thanks ye. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Neat insight, Bill. Yes, I would say just as plausible as the other ill conceived motives pushed so hard by others here. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I think Curtis has a point, MMY didn't always answer questions directly, I believe he felt the ends justified the means and yes, he did use hyperbole. But to see him as a money grubbing fool is missing the point. MMY was a religious Hindu fundamentalist, IMHO, which explains everything! He really wanted World Peace, he really cared for people and the World, he was a good man and helped many. He really believed, World Peace is just a matter of money, (to support the group program), even Christians believe in the power of groups praying the Rosary, TM and TMSP is basically the same dynamic
[FairfieldLife] Obama phone (reprise)-free stuff.
Original Obamaphone Lady: Obama Voter Says Vote for Obama because he gives a free Phone https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpAOwJvTOio https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpAOwJvTOio Original Obamaphone Lady: Obama Voter Say... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpAOwJvTOio Protester outside of Romney rally explains h... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpAOwJvTOio Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More illegal aliens needed!
B-There is no free stuff, hard working Americans pay for it! Really, you think government benefits come from a money tree or something? Oh, and our children and Grand children will have to pay for it...amazing comment!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More illegal aliens needed!
WOW, awesome! I guess the internet is free too, huh? Firefox is free, ergo the internet is also free?, profound logic! But, that's liberal speak
[FairfieldLife] More illegal aliens needed!
The Democrats are desperate for more illegal immigrants that will eventually vote for them. These undocumented Democrats will sway close races in their favor and eventually cause Major states to go Blue. This will be a great Victory for the Democrats, unfortunately not for America as it continues to grow the entitlement society we are becoming.
Re: [FairfieldLife] More illegal aliens needed!
What it means is that Democrat politicians and their flunkeys in government like Lois Lerner will control everything...including THEIR salary, everybody else will just be there for THEM. Absolute government power to control and regulate private business, big and small. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Nothing wrong with Blue states as long as the blue doesn't mean Police State. Traditionally it is the right wing that wants authoritarian government. My suggestion is this election vote NEITHER Republican or Democrat. Vote for some third party candidate. Let's mix things up a bit. The Dems keep begging for money but they lost a lot of support by not supporting their constituents and supporting Wall Street instead. They behaved like just another shade of Republican. And of course I support only legal immigration. Illegals make bad gardeners who can't do accounting and overbill. On 10/26/2014 09:35 AM, wgm4u wrote: The Democrats are desperate for more illegal immigrants that will eventually vote for them. These undocumented Democrats will sway close races in their favor and eventually cause Major states to go Blue. This will be a great Victory for the Democrats, unfortunately not for America as it continues to grow the entitlement society we are becoming.
[FairfieldLife] Democrats need to get rid of Voter ID, ASAP.
With millions of illegal aliens coming, and here in America, the Dems need illegals to be able vote without any medaling! It's all about POWER! For THEM. The more people in poverty the better, for THEM. Let them in...they're undocumented Democrats!
[FairfieldLife] US Having Its Coolest Year On Record
Posted on October 25, 2014 http://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2014/10/25/us-having-its-coolest-year-on-record/ by stevengoddard http://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/author/stevengoddard/ The percentage of US HCN stations to reach 90 degrees was the smallest on record this year, with four of the five coolest years occurring above 350 PPM CO2. The most widespread heat occurred in 1931, when more than 98% of stations were over 90 degrees. https://stevengoddard.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/screenhunter_4028-oct-25-11-17.jpg https://stevengoddard.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/screenhunter_4028-oct-25-11-17.jpg https://stevengoddard.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/screenhunter_4028-oct-25-11-17.jpg https://stevengoddard.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/screen... https://stevengoddard.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/screenhunter_4028-oct-25-11-17.jpg View on stevengoddard.files.w... https://stevengoddard.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/screenhunter_4028-oct-25-11-17.jpg Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Chopra got it right!
Deepak Chopra: That’s one school of thought, but not what I learned. I had my spiritual apprenticeship with the Shankara- charya school in India, and my immediate mentor was Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, who brought Transcendental Meditation to the West. Maharishi was a disciple in turn of the Shankaracharya. That tradition goes back to the ninth century sage Adi Shankara. Their interpretation always has been that the eight limbs of yoga are practiced simultaneously. In that way it is similar to the Eightfold Path in Buddhism. The eight limbs are Niyama, Yama, Asana, Pranayama, Pratyahara, Dharana, Dhyana, and Samadhi and are all actually combined into one discipline. Yama and Niyama are rules of social and personal conduct, so why not include them as things that you do? It’s about the internal shift in attitude that you have to make. Pratyahara and Pranayama are actually forms of Raja yoga, and therefore they are complementary to Asana. Dharana, Dhyana, and Samadhi are supposed to be the culmination of this practice, but all eight limbs are still part of your daily practice. Wgm says: Even MMY says the same in his BG in the appendix on Yoga! All limbs were meant to be practiced 'simultaneously, many meditators have this confused, mostly because MMY himself said one thing and wrote another, see for yourself. (Gita Appendix/Yoga)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Billy Graham: America is Just as Wicked...
Turq-No one can *prove* the existence of God to you or anybody else! God can only be proven to yourself through your own *experience*. God is a subjective reality, and as MMY used to say, The proof is in the pudding, ie the taste!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Billy Graham: America is Just as Wicked...
Turq- Subjective experience only verifies subjective proof, INITIALLY, but eventually, what we find, if the theory bears out, is that the objective World is nothing BUT the subjective World as well. It's a dichotomy that only experience can sort outall is one. The relative World is nothing but Maya-Shakti, (the play of Mother Divine) you know that. The 5 physical senses will never be able to perceive that reality, only the subtler senses can discern that reality, which is SUBJECTIVE, I can't prove it to YOU because it's a subjective experience, FWIW. (Got me thinkin' anyway :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : I must be prescient, having just said: I honestly think that a large part of the problem is that many of the players on the Believer side of this particular discussion have been indoctrinated by Maharishi not only with poor critical thinking skills, but with an actual false belief. That is, they believe that their subjective experience constitutes objective proof. It doesn't, and never will. :-) From: wgm4u no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 5:18 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Billy Graham: America is Just as Wicked... Turq-No one can *prove* the existence of God to you or anybody else! God can only be proven to yourself through your own *experience*. God is a subjective reality, and as MMY used to say, The proof is in the pudding, ie the taste!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Billy Graham: America is Just as Wicked...
Fleet is right. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : uh...Barry...you being a former TM teacher and all, Maharishi wasn't talking about subjective experience, constituting objective proof, for anyone else, only for the subject, and only in a life of enlightenment. The meme for waking state is to always doubt experience, and it is an appropriate caution, for such a state of immature consciousness. But, as we grow up, and see waking state for what it is, a very incomplete picture of life, the subjective, and objective experience merges. So much easier that way, going about life, knowing what to do, to help others, and ourselves. Again, it is a personal thing, for each of us to personally evaluate, for ourselves, regarding our own experience. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : I must be prescient, having just said: I honestly think that a large part of the problem is that many of the players on the Believer side of this particular discussion have been indoctrinated by Maharishi not only with poor critical thinking skills, but with an actual false belief. That is, they believe that their subjective experience constitutes objective proof. It doesn't, and never will. :-) From: wgm4u no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 5:18 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Billy Graham: America is Just as Wicked... Turq-No one can *prove* the existence of God to you or anybody else! God can only be proven to yourself through your own *experience*. God is a subjective reality, and as MMY used to say, The proof is in the pudding, ie the taste!
[FairfieldLife] Religion is BS
George Carlin --- Religion is Bullshit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8r-e2NDSTuE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8r-e2NDSTuE George Carlin --- Religion is Bullshit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8r-e2NDSTuE George Carlin Legend View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8r-e2NDSTuE Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: King Tony's Pedigree
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : MMY also said, Reincarnation is for the ignorant, which is kind of specious IMHO since everybody is ignorant! (i.e. short of enlightenment), therefore, Reincarnation is for everybody. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 10/1/2014 1:41 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... mailto:mjackson74@... wrote : Someone recently told me that Marshy referred to Nader as Ram reincarnated, is that true? It's true that Marshy spoke astounding amounts of crap that, even if any of it was possible, he couldn't possibly have known about. But I never heard him actually say this one. Maybe I just nodded off during the weight in gold moment or the 96 hour introduction to his book of discoveries about human physiology. Maharishi selected Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam because: he loves the most There is some doubt that either of you ever heard or were in the presence of MMY to hear him speak, whether nodded or not. Go figure. Maharishi selected There is some doubt that either of you ever heard or were in the presence of MMY to hear him speak, whether nodded or not. Go figure.
[FairfieldLife] Re: FWIW: Gaudapada and Buddha
I like what MMY says on the subject, reality is both relative (dynamic) and absolute (silent), the unity of the two is the eternal reality of living being. Only in the pralaya does the Absolute exist ALONE. When creation re-emerges from pralaya, all the pure souls come out as they went in and hence the drama continueswe do have, indeed, eternal life. We may have bodies of solar systems or great galaxies as time goes by. FWIW Pralaya, in Hindu cosmology http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindu_cosmology, is an aeonic term for Dissolution, which specifies different periods of time during which non activity situation persists, as per different formats or contexts. The word Mahapralaya stands for Great Dissolution. During each pralaya, the lower ten realms (loka http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loka) are destroyed,[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pralaya#cite_note-shivp-1 while the higher four realms, including Satya-loka http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satya-loka, Tapa-loka, Jana-loka, and Mahar-loka are preserved.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightened animals
Cute story, but unlikely. Man is unique in that he has ALL the 7 spinal centers which enable HIM, above all the animals, plants and minerals, to FULLY reflect the efflorescence of Being. Yogananda has said that man's body was a 'special' creation by God, endowed with all the 7 chakra/spiritual centers. The consciousness of the most evolved animals were implanted into these special vehicles created by God, hence man's 'consciousness' evolved to its present state through all of the mineral, plant and animal kingdoms, but his present body was a special creation by God (though it didn't look like it does today--another subject). Man was given free will and chose to disobey God and began to procreate like he had as an animal, this was the fall of man from grace and the beginning of man's journey through the wheel of karma and re-birth (aka Samsara). Ever since then, man has been trying to regain Paradise Lost; if I understand the story correctly...:-) The Lake of Fire and eternal damnation Jesus spoke of is the 'curse' of death and re-birth, Reincarnation, which the Buddha spoke of as the wheel of suffering. For until man regains fully his identity with Spirit he is doomed to wander the earth in search of redemption and liberation.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Lost tribes of Israel
I think Manly Hall suggested the Lost tribes 'of Israel' were those people who fled the Atlantian flood and were spread across the planet to places like Egypt, India, China and the Americas (Mayans, Toltecs, etc.) among others; hence the uncanny similarity in the philosophies and architecture of these cultures, such as the pyramids of Egypt and Central and South America. Max Heindel suggested the 'promised land' was all the land that surfaced after the flood (in the Bible know as Noah and the flood), or Atlantis.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting Underage Girl
I think Share, for God to put us through all of this, it's got to more than just an 'ultimate relaxation'. You know that; it is described as Sat (Truth) Chit (Conscious..) Ananda (Bliss or eternal happiness), Yogananda calls it 'ever new joy'. TC is more than just No thought and NO mantra...really? (Don't know whether to laugh or cry). People, including TM instructors, take MMY's analogies too far!, they're just teaching tools! Some day Share, if you keep meditating, you will have a clear experience of transcendental consciousness and you'll NEVER forget it, NEVER! It will be an explosion of happiness and bliss like you've never experienced before, now that's worth infusing... We should be happy and grateful that we transcend just a little, but it's not the 'full monty', if you will. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : wgm, one of the most interesting tidbits I've heard recently is that Maharishi once explained enlightenment as the ultimate relaxation, though the person who told me wasn't sure if the word was ultimate, but something along those lines. From my own experience I agree with this 100%. I notice that the more relaxed I am in activity, the more loving I feel. It's not rocket science! Sometimes if I need to settle down in activity, I'll simply track my next five breaths. No trying to slow it down. No trying to deepen it. Just paying attention to my next five breaths. So far, it works every time. On Wednesday, October 8, 2014 5:44 PM, wgm4u no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: I would agree, and far from it, even to the extent that he may have NEVER even experienced it TC to begin with. MMY used to honestly say in the beginning (which is where most people are...and remain, i.e. beginners) it's like perceiving a house in the distance, enough to know it's not a tree (or words to that effect). My point being, even if you only experience a MOMENT of bubbling bliss, it is so enrapturing everything else pales in comparison, he apparently/perhaps obviously didn't even have that! Which would be the common experience of most TMers In short, SC was not transcending, nor do most meditators, deal with it! No thought, no mantra and NO bliss equals NO transcendental consciousness! As, even a moment of that bliss is more rewarding than all of worldly pleasures one could have in a lifetime, combined. How do I know, OK, I experienced it ONCE. During TM I fell asleep and awoke on the other side of deep sleep, it was pure bliss (I don't even know if that would qualify as transcending other than I had that incredible experience. Think of the bubble diagram, the transcendental is beyond relativity, it IS enlightenment. IMHO ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : wgm, what I'd feel safe concluding is that Stephen Collins wasn't established in bliss consciousness. As for hyperbole, a friend of mine, whose been told he's in BC, says that hyperbolic speech is a cultural aspect of life in India. I'd add that for a practical visionary like Maharishi, his job is to offer the highest vision and a means to attain it. Hmmm, I guess Charlie meant 7 HUMAN lifetimes? On Wednesday, October 8, 2014 2:10 PM, wgm4u no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: What you CAN conclude Share is that Mr. Collins wasn't transcending to 'bliss consciousness' ( Let the Bliss begin, on wall behind Youtube interview at David Lynch event ), if he were? do you really think he would have been molesting girls? Like I said, he never got his promised banana. ;-) Doesn't mean there is NO bliss consciousness, just that MMY's rhetoric is mostly hyperbole. TM may, eventually, lead you to enlightenment, but more likely in 7 lifetimes life Charlie Lutes suggests, which is more consistent with the proper understanding of Yoga. TM is merely watered down Yogastill good, just, keep it in context. Stephen Collins at The David Lynch Foundation Night of Comedy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcQ_cogtn4o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcQ_cogtn4o Stephen Collins at The David Lynch Foundation Night of C... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcQ_cogtn4o Stephen Collins is on the Board of Directors of The David Lynch Foundation and talks about meditation and upcoming projects with Comic Bible TV Correspo... View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcQ_cogtn4o Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: Truth -- the bitterness untouched by TM
One angry self-righteous dude! College professor per chance?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting Underage Girl
What you CAN conclude Share is that Mr. Collins wasn't transcending to 'bliss consciousness' ( Let the Bliss begin, on wall behind Youtube interview at David Lynch event ), if he were? do you really think he would have been molesting girls? Like I said, he never got his promised banana. ;-) Doesn't mean there is NO bliss consciousness, just that MMY's rhetoric is mostly hyperbole. TM may, eventually, lead you to enlightenment, but more likely in 7 lifetimes life Charlie Lutes suggests, which is more consistent with the proper understanding of Yoga. TM is merely watered down Yogastill good, just, keep it in context. Stephen Collins at The David Lynch Foundation Night of Comedy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcQ_cogtn4o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcQ_cogtn4o Stephen Collins at The David Lynch Foundation Night of C... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcQ_cogtn4o Stephen Collins is on the Board of Directors of The David Lynch Foundation and talks about meditation and upcoming projects with Comic Bible TV Correspo... View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcQ_cogtn4o Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting Underage Girl
I would agree, and far from it, even to the extent that he may have NEVER even experienced it TC to begin with. MMY used to honestly say in the beginning (which is where most people are...and remain, i.e. beginners) it's like perceiving a house in the distance, enough to know it's not a tree (or words to that effect). My point being, even if you only experience a MOMENT of bubbling bliss, it is so enrapturing everything else pales in comparison, he apparently/perhaps obviously didn't even have that! Which would be the common experience of most TMers In short, SC was not transcending, nor do most meditators, deal with it! No thought, no mantra and NO bliss equals NO transcendental consciousness! As, even a moment of that bliss is more rewarding than all of worldly pleasures one could have in a lifetime, combined. How do I know, OK, I experienced it ONCE. During TM I fell asleep and awoke on the other side of deep sleep, it was pure bliss (I don't even know if that would qualify as transcending other than I had that incredible experience. Think of the bubble diagram, the transcendental is beyond relativity, it IS enlightenment. IMHO ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : wgm, what I'd feel safe concluding is that Stephen Collins wasn't established in bliss consciousness. As for hyperbole, a friend of mine, whose been told he's in BC, says that hyperbolic speech is a cultural aspect of life in India. I'd add that for a practical visionary like Maharishi, his job is to offer the highest vision and a means to attain it. Hmmm, I guess Charlie meant 7 HUMAN lifetimes? On Wednesday, October 8, 2014 2:10 PM, wgm4u no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: What you CAN conclude Share is that Mr. Collins wasn't transcending to 'bliss consciousness' ( Let the Bliss begin, on wall behind Youtube interview at David Lynch event ), if he were? do you really think he would have been molesting girls? Like I said, he never got his promised banana. ;-) Doesn't mean there is NO bliss consciousness, just that MMY's rhetoric is mostly hyperbole. TM may, eventually, lead you to enlightenment, but more likely in 7 lifetimes life Charlie Lutes suggests, which is more consistent with the proper understanding of Yoga. TM is merely watered down Yogastill good, just, keep it in context. Stephen Collins at The David Lynch Foundation Night of Comedy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcQ_cogtn4o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcQ_cogtn4o Stephen Collins at The David Lynch Foundation Night of C... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcQ_cogtn4o Stephen Collins is on the Board of Directors of The David Lynch Foundation and talks about meditation and upcoming projects with Comic Bible TV Correspo... View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcQ_cogtn4o Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting Underage Girl
Huh? I thought TM *automatically* made one a better person...in just a few years no less! Gee, maybe MMY was, shall we say, *embellishing* the supposed benefits? More hyperbole from the great one I guess! Today Stephen Collins, tomorrow, Raja Roger Ram? (and this is the highest teaching on the planet?) '7th Heaven' Dad Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting Underage Girl, Fallout Reaches Hollywood By Suzy Byrne https://celebrity.yahoo.com/blogs/author/suzy-byrne-20131202/ https://celebrity.yahoo.com/blogs/author/suzy-byrne-20131202/ Suzy Byrne https://celebrity.yahoo.com/blogs/author/suzy-byrne-20131202/ See our Celebrity writer Suzy Byrne's profile on Yahoo Celebrity. View Suzy Byrne's latest posts. View on celebrity.yahoo.com https://celebrity.yahoo.com/blogs/author/suzy-byrne-20131202/ Preview by Yahoo View photo . Stephen Collins (Getty Images) Stephen Collins, who played minister and family man the Rev. Eric Camden on TV's 7th Heaven, confessed to his now ex-wife that he molested an underage girl and exposed himself to two others, prompting police on both coasts to examine his admission and Hollywood to distance itself from the actor. There is a formal complaint on file and the incident is being investigated by the Manhattan Special Victims Squad, the NYPD confirmed to The Insider With Yahoo.
[FairfieldLife] With TM Religion is NOT necessary.
Yes, TM made Religion obsolete, now all you have to do is meditate twice a day for 20 minutes and all the virtues will just fall in your lap, isn't that cool! Patanjali and his 8 *means* to Yoga...NOT NECESSARY! Oh no, TM is s powerful it well, creates saints in a thrice! Silly Yoga teachers, got it all wrong! I'd say Jai Guru Dev but seeing MMY didn't even teach what SBS taught per se, I'll have to pass I'll bet TM has not even enlightened ONE person on this planet, it's a good meditation technique but hey, let's not exaggerate it's benefits, we'll be happier with truth and honesty! And maybe even be better meditators as a result!
[FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins on Youtube
Stephen Collins at The David Lynch Foundation Night of Comedy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcQ_cogtn4o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcQ_cogtn4o Stephen Collins at The David Lynch Foundation Night of C... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcQ_cogtn4o Stephen Collins is on the Board of Directors of The David Lynch Foundation and talks about meditation and upcoming projects with Comic Bible TV Correspo... View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcQ_cogtn4o Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: Stephen Collins on Youtube
Gives a whole new meaning to Let the Bliss Begin.;-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Stephen Collins on Youtube
Right, how could this even be possible, I mean, transcending to bliss consciousness twice a day and then coming out and molesting girls...really! Hey..maybe they really *aren't* transcending to bliss consciousness!!! (Now it ALL makes sense).
Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting Underage Girl
Nyuk, nyuk...I'd buy THAT; for a dollar!!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Collins Admits to Molesting Underage Girl
Any day now, TM is gonna 'kick in' any day now!! This is what happens when you expect 'GOD' to do everything for you.NOTHING! God gives YOU the power to do it for yourself! Just a little teaching completely missing from the tmorg.
[FairfieldLife] Maybe Stephen Collins never got his banana.
Ah yes, as MMY used to say; there are two ways to train a wild Monkey, one is to pursue it and tie it down and the other is to just leave a banana at your door and it will be their obediently every day (MMY paraphrased)only problem is MMY, WHERE'S THE BANANA?! We need a banana! Mr Stephen Collins didn't get his banana. Maybe he needs checking to find his banana? or maybe he never got a banana? Did ANYONE get a banana? I got some fruit loops, but no banana!
[FairfieldLife] Re: With TM Religion is NOT necessary.
I agree Yifuxero, in fact the Kundali must ascend the Shumuna, even according to MMY, and open ALL the higher centers (chakras). See below (repeat): Yifuxero says:Transcendence MMY style is most likely (statistically speaking), the 'fuzzy experience, without the 3rd eye opening. CORRECT Your hit the nail on the head with the above comment!! Maharishi Mahesh Yogi on Kundalini, the Chakras and Laya Yoga. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HHkXoH97r0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HHkXoH97r0 Maharishi Mahesh Yogi on Kundalini, the Chakras and... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HHkXoH97r0 When the body becomes purer and purer it (Kundalini) awakens and travels to the 6th Chakra. This gives clear experience of Being, very clear pure consciousn. View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HHkXoH97r0 Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero@... wrote : Right, little indication that any of the Buddha at the Gas pump people or other self-proclaimed Advaitins have opened their 3rd eye chakras. When people say that they transcend, it's a partial opening of the Crown Chakra. Samadhi according to Vedic traditions involves openings of both the Crown Chakra and the 3rd eye chakra. In addition, the development of Siddhis is a natural outcome. Transcendence MMY style is most likely (statistically speaking), the 'fuzzy experience, without the 3rd eye opening. ... In addition, no TM'ers have duplicated the Siddhis of many of the Catholic Saints, such as true levitation, bilocation, etc.
[FairfieldLife] Global warming 'Doomsday' effects have not happened.
'Where's the global warming?' Expert says public are growing sceptical of climate change THE PUBLIC are becoming ever more sceptical of climate change as they begin to ask 'where is the global warming we were promised?', a leading scientist has claimed. By: Levi Winchester http://www.express.co.uk/search/Levi+Winchester?s=Levi+Winchesterb=1 Published: Mon, October 6, 2014 The public are more sceptical about climate change than ever before [GETTY] This week saw the 18th anniversary since the Earth's temperature last rose - something that Dr Benny Peiser, from the Global Warming Policy Forum, says experts http://www.express.co.uk/news/nature/518497/Exclusive-interview-with-Dr-Benny-Peiser# are struggling to understand. He explains that we are now in the midst of a crisis of credibility because the global warming - and accompanied 'Doomsday' effects - that we were once warned about has not happened. Scientists from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate http://www.express.co.uk/news/nature/518497/Exclusive-interview-with-Dr-Benny-Peiser# Change (IPCC) once predicted a temperature rise of 0.2 degrees per decade - but are now baffled by the fact our planet's temperature has not increased for almost two decades.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jerry email to John sent on Sunday
I'd buy THAT, for a dollar! :-)
[FairfieldLife] Listen to the old fool denigrate YOGA! (Krishnamurti)
Is it true that yoga will awaken deeper energy, which is called kundalini? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chPBmSzvStQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chPBmSzvStQ Is it true that yoga will awaken deeper energy, which is... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chPBmSzvStQ Brockwood Park 1979 - Question #2 from Question and Answer Meeting #1 'Is it true that yoga will awaken deeper energy, which is called kundalini?' This vide... View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chPBmSzvStQ Preview by Yahoo Here's what MMY says about Kundalini: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi on Kundalini, the Chakras and Laya Yoga. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HHkXoH97r0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HHkXoH97r0 Maharishi Mahesh Yogi on Kundalini, the Chakras and... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HHkXoH97r0 When the body becomes purer and purer it (Kundalini) awakens and travels to the 6th Chakra. This gives clear experience of Being, very clear pure consciousn. View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HHkXoH97r0 Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Antarctic sea ice reaches record levels, scientists say.
Scientists say the extent of Antarctic sea ice cover is at its highest level since records began. Satellite imagery reveals an area of about 20 million square kilometres covered by sea ice around the Antarctic continent. It's the wind now! Snicker. New record set for extent of Antarctic sea ice http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-09-14/record-coverage-of-antarctic-sea-ice/5742668 http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-09-14/record-coverage-of-antarctic-sea-ice/5742668 New record set for extent of Antarctic sea ice http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-09-14/record-coverage-of-antarctic-sea-ice/5742668 Scientists say the extent of Antarctic sea ice cover is at its highest level since records began. View on www.abc.net.au http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-09-14/record-coverage-of-antarctic-sea-ice/5742668 Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Why MMY's Bhagavad Gita will never be a classic.
There is sooo much more in the Gita, if you just sit back and think you got it by just reading 6 chapters of MMY's it makes me want to cry. Below is an incredible translation and commentary by a real saint IMHO, read it and be amazed. Not only on what you read by what you didn't read in MMY's Gita! http://bookstore.yogananda-srf.org/mc_images/product/detail/GTWA_PB.jpg http://bookstore.yogananda-srf.org/mc_images/product/detail/GTWA_PB.jpg http://bookstore.yogananda-srf.org/mc_images/product/detail/GTWA_PB.jpg http://bookstore.yogananda-srf.org/mc_images/product/det... http://bookstore.yogananda-srf.org/mc_images/product/detail/GTWA_PB.jpg View on bookstore.yogananda-... http://bookstore.yogananda-srf.org/mc_images/product/detail/GTWA_PB.jpg Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Why MMY's Bhagavad Gita will never be a classic.
You're right Share, but that only scratches the surface of this great classic Masterpiece by Vyasa!, and how he cleverly intertwines the Sanskrit names with the esoteric principles behind them (much like Raja Ram does in his publication) to bring out the inner meaning is truly amazing, MMY doesn't do that!! The BG unfold the WHOLE study of Yoga, it's all there, not just a few simple comments and observations.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why MMY's Bhagavad Gita will never be a classic.
The 5 Pandus were meant to represent the 5 lower chakras under the power of the soul and the 100 evil minded sons of Dhritarashtra were meant to represent all the vices man is subject to in life, Duryodana chief among them as Material Desire. Which came first? the war? or the allegory of man's spiritual quest? I think the later! Vyasa's Bhagavad Gita came first, the so-called war was added to tell the story!, get it? The field of the body (kurushetra) is where the battle is fought between the evil and good tendencies (there's that duality again, God and the Devil). Hence the BG is as Religious as any Christian scripture. It's really a beautiful story that MMY really hasn't addressed, that wasn't his intention after all, but that's another story.
[FairfieldLife] Rapid City, ND sees earliest snowfall since 1888.
Snicker-This is for all the global Warming cool aide drinkers on this group... An early September winter storm in the Black Hills has dumped more than 6 inches of snow in the area, while Rapid City received its earliest snowfall in more than 120 years. Jon Chamberlain, meteorologist with the National Weather Service in Rapid City, said almost 1 inch of snow had fallen in downtown Rapid City by 8:30 a.m. while 2 inches was measured in higher elevations in town. I can't wait until Al Gore's fantastic tales on An inconvenient truth truth out to be inconveniently wrong too!!!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's Supreme Enlightenment and those who are jealous of it [ was Re: Nice to hear from you, Rish]
I remember a residence course I went to years and years ago at Pac Pal, we were exposed to hours and hours of L.Domash. After one lecture ended (here I am at an 'advanced' course and they're still trying to sell me on TM) I asked the course leader if he could play ANYTHING of MMY in lieu of L. Domash, shortly thereafter another course participant came up to me and said he felt the same way and was glad I spoke up. In those days they were ALWAYS trying to sell you on something. Through the window of science we see the dawn of the age of boredom, err, enlightenment.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's Supreme Enlightenment and those who are jealous of it [ was Re: Nice to hear from you, Rish]
Actually, according to a great Indian saint we are actually in Dwapara Yuga, (Swami Sri Yukteswar). The Holy Science - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holy_Science http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holy_Science The Holy Science - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holy_Science The Holy Science is a book written by Swami Sri Yukteswar Giri in 1894 under the title Kaivalya Darsanam. Sri Yukteswar states that he wrote The Ho... View on en.wikipedia.org http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holy_Science Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rapid City, ND sees earliest snowfall since 1888.
Actually, I don't believe it OR disbelieve it. I will keep an open mind on the subject.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's Supreme Enlightenment and those who are jealous of it [ was Re: Nice to hear from you, Rish]
Snicker.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Ideal India, Lighthouse of Peace on Earth' by Maharishi ~ Excerpt
Regarding powerful comment by MMY posted by Rick: You can see MMY regards things of Indian origin the best, funny how he qualified it thus. Remember MMY was a Hindu! Also he contradicts his former comments suggesting ANY form of government would be fine if the people in that government are living in accord with natural law, which makes more sense to me. He seems to suggest this (Vedic, neo-Hindu) government can be imposed from without, and not a gradual *growth* from within, hence his grandiose programs to reform the World, perhaps MMY had a Messiah complex, yes? Remember what you said MMY?? For the forest to be green, every tree must be green, that was when his teachings didn't go to his head, I guess. MMY will always be an enigma, and he never let on whether he was enlightened or not, most people believe he didn't even practice TM. I don't think we even know WHAT he practiced. From: 'Rick Archer' rick@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] 'Ideal India, Lighthouse of Peace on Earth' by Maharishi ~ Excerpt In a 2001 publication called 'Ideal India, the Lighthouse of Peace on Earth', Maharishi Mahesh Yogi wrote the following: Those people who are holding the reins of Indian administration should know their administration is not of Indian origin. The Indian Constitution, promoted by Jawaharlal Nehru, is non-Indian, because it does not nourish the life of either Brahmanas, Kshatriyas, Vaishyas, or Shudras; it is only suited to Varn Shankar Shrisht - it is not suited for the survival and evolution of pure life. It does not cater for the natural specialties of Brahmanas, Kshatriyas, Vaishyas, or Shudras; it does not even suit the requirements of Brahmachari, Grihastha, Vanaprastha, or Sanyas - it does not cater for the Varn Prasht Vyavastha - it is a copy of non-Indian ideals of life, which have resulted from thousands of years of slavery of foreign powers in India. Through Devata Yagya and Anusthan, Bhakti, and Vedant, we are trying to bless the world from the ancient Indian heritage - the Vedic Heritage; but the Government of India is suppressing the reality of Indian life through its laws. We strongly condemn the word secular and the meaning of secularism that governs the administration of the Government of India, and which dismisses the scientific reality of Devatas and Yagyas and has put these most fundamental fields of intelligence out of government policy. For India to be ideal, it has to rise to invincibility through the wisdom of the Veda; through devotion to Devatas and Yagyas and through the performance of Yagya and Anusthan for the individual to rise to his Cosmic Potential. The deep roots of Dharma have been cruelly invaded by the British, American, and German Christian-oriented philosophy of life. It is a shame for Indians, living in the Land of the Veda, to allow the fundamentals of their Vedic Knowledge to be invaded and virtually crucified by the shallow and very superficial principles of Christendom - baseless principles of life in the name of national unity.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rapid City, ND sees earliest snowfall since 1888.
Sorry, but Climate 'scientist's' credibility has been severely challenged recently; add to that the enormous money involved with GOVERNMENT grants, colleague peer pressure and other pressures involved in solving this so-called emergency. I think we'd better eye this with some healthy skepticism
[FairfieldLife] Proof-Obama is the devil!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Proof-Obama is the devil!
I guess he didn't see the horns! ;-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rapid City, ND sees earliest snowfall since 1888.
MMY used hyperbole to promote his ideas, understanding that and your question will be answered. I think MMY even believed his own rhetoric, he made up TM (a good beginner program, don't get me wrong) but I don't think it came from Guru Dev. I think MMY believed transcendental conscious could be obtained in a few years, whereas in practice most people won't even transcend fully ONCE in their lifetime! Hence his idea that TM would bring about all of Patanjali's 8 limbs of Yoga as a *result* of practice is poppy cock. He even let slip in his Gita translation (such as it is) that the eight limbs of Patanjali's Yoga were meant to be *means* to Yoga and not *ends* (read it for yourself in the appendix under Yoga).
[FairfieldLife] Re: Proof-Obama is the devil!
It was all part of God's plan his 'Lila-shakti' if you will, there is NO hell per se, even heaven is a temporary abode. Beyond duality lies the truth, pure eternal happiness. MMY got that right, Everybody's inner being IS pure happiness. No happiness when you meditate?, sorry...no transcendental consciousness. Keep tryin'.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rapid City, ND sees earliest snowfall since 1888.
There is no Parampara in the TM program, MMY *wasn't* a Guru! Thanks Duveyoung! Parampara (Sanskrit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanskrit: परम्परा, paramparā) denotes a succession of teachers and disciples in traditional Vedic culture and Indian religions http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_religions such as Hinduism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinduism, Sikhism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sikhism, Jainism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jainism and Buddhism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhism. It is also known as guru-shishya tradition http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guru-shishya_tradition (succession from guru http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guru to disciple).
[FairfieldLife] Why MMY's Bhagavad Gita will never be a classic.
Firstly, it was never completed as far as we know. We do know MMY did some translation sand commentarys of chapters 7-18 but we don't know which ones for sure and they were never published. The missing chapters of MMY's Gita were left in the hands of Charles Lutes and were mysteriously 'stolen' from him and have disappeared, presumably at least one person knows where they are (if you know let us all know). Secondly, and more importantly, MMY never really unfolds the allegory that the Bhagavad Gita IS. MMY suggests in his translation that when Krishna advised Arjuna to ...rise and fight, it was talking about an actual war that occurred in India in long gone days. (Think about how silly that sounds, a dialogue on an actual battlefield where Arjuna becomes self-realized and Krishna has a class on Indian philosophy, really??) That is incorrect, Vyasa's classic only uses that historical reference loosely to tell a more subtle esoteric battle, that is, the battle between good and evil waged on the field (kurushetra) of the body, mind and soul. Understanding the Sanskrit meanings of the words and characters in the script unfolds the esoteric meaning, only a really intuitive realized soul can properly understand Vyasa's meaning since Sanskrit words can have different meanings. MMY only refers to this connection, BUT HE NEVER UNFOLDS IT! Why? probably because he had an *agenda* in writing the book and never intended to do a comprehensive analysis of it. He also said if *time permitted*, (what, he was 93 when he died) in order to do justice to the subject he'd have to do a commentary on the Gita in light of ALL six systems of Indian philosophy (Nyaya, Vaisheshika, Sankhya, Yoga...etc.) which would equal 24 commentaries...it never happened! Which is Absurd, IMO. Thirdly, even though TM is not taught in the context of Religion, is used to be! MMY said that TM is, I quote, the greatest blessing of the Vedas, (The Vedas MMY) and that all Religions come from the *eternal Religion* of the Vedas. (MMY The Vedas). The TM technique may not be a Religion, and like a steering wheel may not be called a car, it certainly is central to the functioning of a car. That is the relationship of the TM technique to Religion. The advanced chapters of the Gita were too Religious sounding for MMY, IMHO. For instance the title of Chapter 16v21 is, The Threefold Gate of Hell, I wonder why MMY didn't bless us with his commentary of this chapter...hummm?
[FairfieldLife] Re: A Short History of TMer Newsgroups, Part 1
At first I though Judy was a 'plant' by the tmorg to defend MMY and the TMO's reputation, then I realized she was pretty much just posting her own opinions, some of which I agree with and some not ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : Years ago, when the internet was just getting started (1994) I was surfing around and ran across Usenet - discussion groups. At first I subscribed to a site that discussed ISKCON, because I had been a participant in one of their temples for about a year (3716 Watseka Ave in L.A.) and I was taken with their devotion and depth of knowledge. Some members had started a news group discussion on the internet and I started to read and lurk there for a few weeks. I was very impressed with some of the topics discussed and the responses. Then I discovered alt.meditation.transcendental (now Google Groups) and so I decided to join. What a disappointment! It was like a bar room brawl - Judy was there and Barry and Lon P. Stacks (RIP) and they were thrashing it out with that Asshole Nick (Andrew Skolnick) the science journalist. Judy did her best to defend her position but for appearances the whole group was just an exercise in futility - it was, and still is, a cess-pool of misinformation. So, I decided to post some of my own messages, not so much to prove anything, but just to improve the look and feel. Anyone surfing there would have thought TMers were all buffoons and gimcracks, for all appearances. So, I started writing up some nifty essays with fancy subject lines, not so much to get attention but to make the place look like a forum with useful and insightful analysis. So, for years I posted my essays to AMT to try and make the forum look good. I must have posted 8,000 essay from 1999 - 2003. I didn't get a response from Judy for close to fours years to any of my cogent postings. And, only two from Barry. Maybe they were JELLOS - I don't know. Then, they started spewing and posting political propaganda, in what I thought was an attempt to make the site look like a pile of crap and they tried to make the place look like a dung heap. One day I disputed Judy's claim that George W. Bush was a liar and so I posted a retort. That's about when it hit the fan! Ever since then she has hated my guts - nothing to do with TM or the mechanics of consciousness - just hateful slander and personal attacks, all directed at me. So, I either had to shut up or leave. But look, I've got an ego about as big as Mt. Rushmore so I don't back down without a fight - never have and never will. I am a military brat from Texas and I know everything about everything and I'm living at the center of the universe. So, at some point several of us left the Google Groups and came over to Yahoo Groups. Now it looks like this place going to shit too - there's no moderation, nobody gives a crap, and nobody will stand up for the Maharishi. They aren't even proud of their past. All they want to do is post fluff and drivel - you can read it here every day. It's sometime just pathetic what some people will post to the internet. Myself included. Selections from the Usenet Archives: http://www.rwilliams.us/archives.htm http://www.rwilliams.us/archives.htm
[FairfieldLife] Poor Al Gore-wrong again!
Myth of arctic meltdown: Stunning satellite images show summer ice cap is thicker and covers 1.7million square kilometres MORE than 2 years ago...despite Al Gore's prediction it would be ICE-FREE by now Seven years after former US Vice-President Al Gore's warning, Arctic ice cap has expanded for second year in row An area twice the size of Alaska - America's biggest state - was open water two years ago and is now covered in ice These satellite images taken from University of Illinois's Cryosphere project show ice has become more concentrated By David Rose for The Mail on Sunday http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/search.html?s=authornamef=David+Rose+for+The+Mail+on+Sunday Published: 17:04 EST, 30 August 2014 | Updated: 03:56 EST, 31 August 2014 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2738653/Stunning-satellite-images-summer-ice-cap-thicker-covers-1-7million-square-kilometres-MORE-2-years-ago-despite-Al-Gore-s-prediction-ICE-FREE-now.html#email http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2738653/Stunning-satellite-images-summer-ice-cap-thicker-covers-1-7million-square-kilometres-MORE-2-years-ago-despite-Al-Gore-s-prediction-ICE-FREE-now.html#socialLinks 18kshares 1.1k View comments http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2738653/Stunning-satellite-images-summer-ice-cap-thicker-covers-1-7million-square-kilometres-MORE-2-years-ago-despite-Al-Gore-s-prediction-ICE-FREE-now.html#comments The speech by former US Vice-President Al Gore was apocalyptic. ‘The North Polar ice cap is falling off a cliff,’ he said. ‘It could be completely gone in summer in as little as seven years. Seven years from now.’ Those comments came in 2007 as Mr Gore accepted the Nobel Peace Prize for his campaigning on climate change. But seven years after his warning, The Mail on Sunday can reveal that, far from vanishing, the Arctic ice cap has expanded for the second year in succession – with a surge, depending on how you measure it, of between 43 and 63 per cent since 2012. Scroll down for video SHARE PICTURE Copy link to paste in your message +4 To put it another way, an area the size of Alaska, America’s biggest state, was open water two years ago, but is again now covered by ice. Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2738653/Stunning-satellite-images-summer-ice-cap-thicker-covers-1-7million-square-kilometres-MORE-2-years-ago-despite-Al-Gore-s-prediction-ICE-FREE-now.html#ixzz3BzS68BeX http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2738653/Stunning-satellite-images-summer-ice-cap-thicker-covers-1-7million-square-kilometres-MORE-2-years-ago-despite-Al-Gore-s-prediction-ICE-FREE-now.html#ixzz3BzS68BeX Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter http://ec.tynt.com/b/rw?id=bBOTTqvd0r3Pooab7jrHcUu=MailOnline | Daily Mail http://ec.tynt.com/b/rf?id=bBOTTqvd0r3Pooab7jrHcUu=DailyMail http://ec.tynt.com/b/rf?id=bBOTTqvd0r3Pooab7jrHcUu=DailyMail Daily Mail http://ec.tynt.com/b/rf?id=bBOTTqvd0r3Pooab7jrHcUu=DailyMail A handpicked selection of the latest news, sport, showbiz, science and health stories from around... View on ec.tynt.com http://ec.tynt.com/b/rf?id=bBOTTqvd0r3Pooab7jrHcUu=DailyMail Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: 8/1213/14-Maharishi: As we take care of ourself, the world will take of itself for us on that level
It would be nice if TM actually worked as advertised and taught, that is, we really did transcend to pure bliss consciousness right from the beginning. If that were the case we'd all be enlightened by now. Unfortunately, that is NOT the case, hence you have TM'ers (like me) 40+ years and still have basic problems. The devil is in the details, and MMY oversold TM in order to get as many started as possible, did the ends justify the means?, maybeTM does work, it just takes a lot longer than we were led to believe and perhaps even M finally realized. (Some say it could take as long as 7 lifetimes to reach our full 'mental' potential.) That being said, I'm a lot better off having started TM than not(just a little perspective on the subject). Maharishi and Hyperbole go together, TM is still the best entry level program to the overall study of Yoga, though it just scratches the surface, IMHO. PS. No mantra, no thought and no bliss? No transcendental consciousness!! sorry Charlie (tuna). The experience of the transcendental is Sat-Chit-Ananda! Where's the beef?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Awake: The Life Of Yogananda - Rotten Tomatoes
Thanks Rick-That link didn't work (for me) but here it is on Youtube. I think Yogananda truly was a God-man and I think he knew about ALL the techniques of meditation, including TM or mantra-japa. He teaches Kriya which works directly with the prana or life force, not indirectly like TM. It is more difficult but more reliable in the long run, IMHO. Awake: The Life of Yogananda Official Trailer 1 (2014) - Documentary HD https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyLkg3uDe1c https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyLkg3uDe1c Awake: The Life of Yogananda Official Trailer 1... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyLkg3uDe1c Subscribe to TRAILERS: http://bit.ly/sxaw6h Subscribe to COMING SOON: http://bit.ly/H2vZUn Subscribe to INDIE TRAILERS: http://goo.gl/iPUuo Li... View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyLkg3uDe1c Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Hamas fires rocket randomly into Israel. (Caught on tape.)
NDTV exclusive - how Hamas assembles and fires rockets https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_fP6mlNSK8#t=71 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_fP6mlNSK8#t=71 NDTV exclusive - how Hamas assembles and fires rockets https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_fP6mlNSK8#t=71 Minutes before the 72-hour ceasefire began, this rocket was fired from deep within a civilian zone. Watch more videos: http://www.ndtv.com/video?yt View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_fP6mlNSK8#t=71 Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Coldest Antarctic June Ever Recorded
Coldest Antarctic June Ever Recorded http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/07/12/coldest-antarctic-june-ever-recorded/ Posted on July 12, 2014 http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/07/12/coldest-antarctic-june-ever-recorded/ by Anthony Watts http://wattsupwiththat.com/author/wattsupwiththat/ Story submitted by Eric Worrall Antarctica continues to defy the global warming script, with a report from Meteo France, that June this year was the coldest Antarctic June ever recorded, at the French Antarctic Dumont d’Urville Station. According to the press release, during June this year, the average temperature was -22.4c (-8.3F), 6.6c (11.9F) lower than normal. This is the coldest June ever recorded at the station, and almost the coldest monthly average ever – only September 1953 was colder, with a recorded average temperature of -23.5c (-10.3F).
Re: [FairfieldLife] POLL: Obama Worst Modern-Day President
Obama should be a 'good speaker', he has 16 liberals writing his speeches
[FairfieldLife] POLL: Obama Worst Modern-Day President
Why? Because he only represents his left wing base and ideology, which is only less than half the Country. O happy day when he leaves(it's his way or the hi-way).
Re: [FairfieldLife] POLL: Obama Worst Modern-Day President
This President if so full of BS; if you can't see it you must be blind... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote : Ha! Just got back from seeing Dinesh D'Souza's movie, *America*. Excellent! There's stuff even Bhairitu can appreciate in there. Dinesh axes the question, What would the world be like if America never existed? On Wednesday, July 2, 2014 11:37 AM, Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: It might be good if he did represent his left wing base. But he doesn't even do that. He represents Wall Street. On 07/02/2014 10:14 AM, wgm4u wrote: Why? Because he only represents his left wing base and ideology, which is only less than half the Country. O happy day when he leaves(it's his way or the hi-way).
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pitchforks Are Coming… Fo r Us Plutocrats
Poor? What poor? Oh, you mean the poor we are importing from South of the Border, correct! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Same guy we've been discussing here for a few days with the billionaire who gets it thread. Have you seen the price of ass wipe lately? The poor can't even afford to take a shit. On 07/02/2014 10:35 AM, 'Rick Archer' rick@... mailto:rick@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: They know we're coming sooner or later: http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/06/the-pitchforks-are-coming-for-us-plutocrats-108014.html#.U7OALSjA420 http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/06/the-pitchforks-are-coming-for-us-plutocrats-108014.html#.U7OALSjA420
Re: [FairfieldLife] Dumb (Bush) and Dumber (Obama)-Iraq.
You're right. BTW, Bush senior was against the invasion of Iraq. Too bad, Bush W didn't listen to his father. I guess they deserved Saddam Hussein after all. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : We had no business in Iraq in the first place. But apparently the military industrial complex felt they had big business there and we were given the bill. Let's not pay it. On 06/13/2014 12:41 PM, wgm4u wrote: Let this be a lesson, When you stop fighting evil, IT RETURNS! Bush, turns out was Dumb for going IN to Iraq and Obama is Dumber for leaving.The war on terror IS NOT over! Wake up Dems.
[FairfieldLife] Dumb (Bush) and Dumber (Obama)-Iraq.
Let this be a lesson, When you stop fighting evil, IT RETURNS! Bush, turns out was Dumb for going IN to Iraq and Obama is Dumber for leaving.The war on terror IS NOT over! Wake up Dems.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Why morality is important in reaching enlightenment.
Where's the rest, he didn't even bother to address NiYama? More conflicting vague information from MMY in my opinion, like his Bhagavad Gitaunfinished! I guess you will believe what you want to believe, so be it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote : An excerpt of Maharishi's talks on the Yoga Sutras of Patanjali: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYKsNCyj_sE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYKsNCyj_sE William Sands has a new book on Yoga out, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi and His Gift to the World and Maharishi’s Yoga: The Royal Path to Enlightenment. http://www.elephantjournal.com/2014/03/a-different-take-on-ashtanga-yoga-william-f-sands/ http://www.elephantjournal.com/2014/03/a-different-take-on-ashtanga-yoga-william-f-sands/ Sands' website is: http://www.wfsands.com http://www.wfsands.com L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : wgm4u, didn't Maharishi once explain that by doing TM one was actually practicing all 8 limbs of yoga? I'm pretty sure he did but I don't remember the details. On Thursday, April 17, 2014 1:35 PM, wgm4u no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: As long as the prana (or chi) is locked in the lower chakras (spiritual centers of awakening) of lust, anger and greed, it will not release the soul to higher realms. These samskaras (deep impressions) eventually must be 'burnt' out completely to maintain that state of Self-Realization or God Realization. Though the impressions are in the sub-conscious mind their correlate is reflected in the vital/pranic body (sometimes called the health body that permeates the physical body). This is why Ayurved is pursued in TM and other organizations, by clearing the vayus (or airs, actually the pranic channels in the subtle body) of 'stress' and impurities (ie. attachments) one is finally set free to *ascend* to Samadhi. Remember MMY said in the beginning, ones tip toes through the sleeping elephants', these sleeping elephants are the doshas (in yoga AND in Ayurved) which must be removed/replaced by the virtues, hence the importance of practicing ALL of Patanjali's 8 limbs of Yoga, not just a few..
[FairfieldLife] Re: What are the *benefits* of believing in God?
Faith and believe in God are powerful tools that enable you to do that which you could not do by yourself! The belief in a higher power enables one to go beyond your own limitations and do things you thought impossible. Conversely, if you have no belief in your higher power you cut yourself off from that inner resource, even if you believe in YOURSELF you will be more successful than if you don't, which should be obvious, hence the importance in belief! It opens the door to YOUR inner power! But you must have faith in it and practice it! Truly I tell you, if you have faith as small as a mustard seed, you can say to this mountain, ‘Move from here to there,’ and it will move. Nothing will be impossible for you.” Matt 17:20 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Probably not what you are looking for, but what I've observed from the atheists, at least on this forum is that they are more comfortable keeping the discussion on highly abstract issues. Issues that can't really be resolved one way or the other, or at least kept on a bit of solid ground. For example, does the belief in atheism necessitate the tabla rasa theory that we are born with a blank slate? Do the atheists believe that when we die, it all goes to black. Good questions, speaking entirely for myself - as atheists (as far as I know) aren't a gang with a set of instructions about what threshold of beliefs you need to reach before being a member - it's more about just not having a belief that there has ever been any sort of creator and relying instead on both uncertainty where necessary and confidence where appropriate. Everything is subject to review as more information comes to light, including whether or not there is any sort of god. But nobody actually knows whether there is one and given the apparent lack of necessity and amount of better explanations for god's traditional roles I know where I'd place my money. I like the idea of life after death though, it'd be cool to wake up in heaven or on the next stage of the computer game we all might be playing. I also like the idea of reincarnation be nice to know I may in some way get another go at this.But looking at what we know about animals and brains and evolution I'd have to say it isn't very likely. In fact, if I was a gambling man, I'd say the odds weren't worth much of a stake. But there might be something we don't know of course. It's a case of finding out later with that one but don't hold your breath. You can always say, we have no evidence.', but I'd like to know if it's what they believe. I ask that because there are many instances that would contradict these two assumptions. And sometimes when pressed, you will hear the atheist reply with, there is so much we don't know about genetics, or there is so much we don't know about how the brain works, which sounds a lot like, God works in mysterious way. Now , the God works in mysterious ways doesn't do it for me either, but neither does the genetics things, or the brain thing, at least as it is often used here. Often just a lame default, I think,. I would say that the progress that has been made in studying consciousness in a short time has been rather impressive. Given the power of the scientific method to get to the bottom of things I would expect to get a working model of consciousness and self awareness very soon. We know where thoughts occur, what part of the brain needs to be active in order for consciousness to function (and how to knock it out), if it's possible to do it then we will. Unquestionably. The brain is after all another physical structure. .Unless there is something really unusual going on. You have to look at it from an evolutionists perspective, there haven't always been brains and you can trace their growth from early on in history, it shouldn't be too hard to build a graph showing which animal has which level of awareness. We seem to be the only one with the ability to sit back and think about it. That's the only difference I can see with us: we have a metaphorical inner life and can make up abstract ideas like afterlife's. How we got that adaptation is a mystery but maybe not such a big one. And of course, having an explanation of the consciousness hard problem doesn't mean we are going to be able to easily fit it to our own experience. And I expect there will be a lot of people who refuse to even try. So it isn't really lame, just a statement that there are still mysteries. And mysteries that I refuse to fill with woo woo. So, that would be my take on the issue. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Sometimes I look at the way that believers react to the word atheist -- spitting it out as if it were an epithet -- and find it a curious reaction. I mean,
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What are the *benefits* of believing in God?
Perhaps Barry is waiting for someone to prove it FOR him!? Unfortunately Barry will be waiting a long time if that's the case, as God can only be proved to oneself since it is a subjective experience. I can't prove it for him, he can only prove it for himself. God is an *experience* that transcends the five senses, and certainly can't be discerned using a microscope or a telescope. Until it's real for you it's merely a theory, maybe the best, but still, just a theory. AS MMY used to say, The proof is in the pudding. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : One of the very few unequivocally accurate statements Barry has made in this discussion: NOTHING could fit better into the description can't really be resolved one way or another than the existence of God.
Re: [FairfieldLife] !Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam is Coming to Fairfield!
No Mantra, No Thoughts, No Bliss?--Sorry, No Samadhi! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Lawson, I'm not sure about the accuracy of your statement that because the dive is shallower, progression to samadhi takes longer. In one of Fred Travis' graduate classes, someone complained that they didn't feel deep in TM anymore. Fred explained that one way to understand the growth from CC to GC is that the depth comes up to the surface. So we might not feel deep. But that doesn't mean that we aren't deep. I'd add that in any case, trying to feel deep is counter productive. On Wednesday, April 16, 2014 9:29 PM, LEnglish5@... LEnglish5@... wrote: The long-term outcome of all mantras is that they lead to samadhi. Some work faster than others, which, ironically, is the point of advanced techniques: the dive is more shallow, so the progression to samadhi takes longer. So that doesn't explain the striking difference between TM and other mantra-based methods. It's not the fact that a simple, fast-working mantra was being used. If that was the case, then other practices would show the simplest state of awareness slower, but instead, they show it LESS, the longer people have been practicing. L
