[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (1) The small self *is* Judy. Judy's the > > > > > > illusion. > > > > > > > > > > > > (2) Being in ignorance is *not* what Judy is > > > > > > complaining about, never has been. > > > > > > > > > > > > (3) All three of you--Rory, Barry, and Jim--have > > > > > > completely missed the point I was making to Rory. > > > > > > I really didn't think I was being *that* subtle. > > > > > > > > > > > > Take another look at what I wrote a little earlier > > > > > > in the thread, commenting on Rory's attempt to > > > > > > play therapist: > > > > > > > > > > > > "If I work *really really hard* on this, someday > > > > > > in the future I may come to be able to appreciate > > > > > > the Now." > > > > > > > > > > *lol* Yes, I appreciate(d) your intellectual attempt to turn > > > this > > > > > into an infinitely regressing paradox, but didn't really > think > > > it > > > > > was worth commenting on :-) > > > > > > > > Now if you'd just take out the "lol" and the > > > > smiley face, I might be convinced you were > > > > capable of expressing an honest reaction. > > > > > > *lol* I don't give a crap what you might or not be convinced > of :-) > > > > but you DO post a lot... > > ...said the pot to the kettle. :-) Do YOU post a lot because you > care what other personas think of your persona? Do you care whether > other personas happen to agree with the opinion your persona might > be expressing in any given moment? These things are not particularly > high on my list, anyhow, and I could be wrong but I doubt they rank > very high on yours :-) OTOH I very much enjoy loving and being loved; understanding and being understood; tickling and being tickled by humor and self- recognition -- some of the reasons I *do* post here a lot, which don't have a whole lot to do with persona, opinion and so on AFAICS :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (1) The small self *is* Judy. Judy's the > > > > > illusion. > > > > > > > > > > (2) Being in ignorance is *not* what Judy is > > > > > complaining about, never has been. > > > > > > > > > > (3) All three of you--Rory, Barry, and Jim--have > > > > > completely missed the point I was making to Rory. > > > > > I really didn't think I was being *that* subtle. > > > > > > > > > > Take another look at what I wrote a little earlier > > > > > in the thread, commenting on Rory's attempt to > > > > > play therapist: > > > > > > > > > > "If I work *really really hard* on this, someday > > > > > in the future I may come to be able to appreciate > > > > > the Now." > > > > > > > > *lol* Yes, I appreciate(d) your intellectual attempt to turn > > this > > > > into an infinitely regressing paradox, but didn't really think > > it > > > > was worth commenting on :-) > > > > > > Now if you'd just take out the "lol" and the > > > smiley face, I might be convinced you were > > > capable of expressing an honest reaction. > > > > *lol* I don't give a crap what you might or not be convinced of :-) > > but you DO post a lot... ...said the pot to the kettle. :-) Do YOU post a lot because you care what other personas think of your persona? Do you care whether other personas happen to agree with the opinion your persona might be expressing in any given moment? These things are not particularly high on my list, anyhow, and I could be wrong but I doubt they rank very high on yours :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Don't listen because in nirvana it's not like that. > > > > > > It's not empty or cold or barren. You don't remember > > > > > > that the ecstasy and completion of absorption in God > > > > > > is so fantastic that you can't possibly have lost > > > > > > anything because all the things you've always loved > > > > > > and always experienced came forth from there and exist > > > > > > there and are always there." > > > > > > > > > > Yes. Only the mind thinks THAT is empty and cold and barren, > > > while > > > > *at > > > > > the same time* recognizing it is completely satisfied, rock- > > > bottom > > > > at > > > > > last in the crystal-clear ocean of paradox. And as it > > surrenders > > > > into > > > > > its own emptiness, Heart awakens into appreciation of its > own > > > > > fullness, incarnating more and more fully with the attentive > > > > breath, > > > > > for prana is Brahman :-) > > > > > > > > A fine piece of writing, that! > > > > > > > > "the crystal-clear ocean of paradox"- home of mobius dick, eh? > > > > > > And the Kleinboggle. > > > > Hiranyagarbha-Torus with a twist, still preserving a semblance of > > self-other duality? > > I'm looking into it... ...and obtaining a View of our own backside, no doubt :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > Deja vu > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Thats the stripper Barry wrote one of his stories about, right? > > > > > > > > I thought that was Toots Sweet. > > > > > > There's now effective drugs that can cure that for you Rory. Or > think of baseball. > > > > Cure what? Alzheimer's? And think what of baseball? > > Toots Sweet --> Tout suite = quickly; toot ~ too ; strippers ~ sex; > ==> sex too quickly. > > Boy, you need one of Jim's beanie caps! *lol* I apologize, Akasha; it has been a very very long time since I was concerned with such; I didn't have that reference in my ready- access file. It was indeed both a clever and logical twist on my pun :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > (1) The small self *is* Judy. Judy's the > > > > illusion. > > > > > > > > (2) Being in ignorance is *not* what Judy is > > > > complaining about, never has been. > > > > > > > > (3) All three of you--Rory, Barry, and Jim--have > > > > completely missed the point I was making to Rory. > > > > I really didn't think I was being *that* subtle. > > > > > > > > Take another look at what I wrote a little earlier > > > > in the thread, commenting on Rory's attempt to > > > > play therapist: > > > > > > > > "If I work *really really hard* on this, someday > > > > in the future I may come to be able to appreciate > > > > the Now." > > > > > > *lol* Yes, I appreciate(d) your intellectual attempt to turn > this > > > into an infinitely regressing paradox, but didn't really think > it > > > was worth commenting on :-) > > > > Now if you'd just take out the "lol" and the > > smiley face, I might be convinced you were > > capable of expressing an honest reaction. > > *lol* I don't give a crap what you might or not be convinced of :-) but you DO post a lot... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Deja vu > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thats the stripper Barry wrote one of his stories about, > > right? > > > > > > > > > > > > I thought that was Toots Sweet. > > > > > > > > > > There's now effective drugs that can cure that for you Rory. Or > > > think of baseball. > > > > > > > > Cure what? Alzheimer's? And think what of baseball? > > > > > > Toots Sweet --> Tout suite = quickly; toot ~ too ; strippers ~ sex; > > > ==> sex too quickly. > > > > > > Boy, you need one of Jim's beanie caps! > > > > You strike me as too clever by half, and as a result, half as clever. > > You are so witty. Half man, half wit. Now *that* strikes me as funny! Ha-ha! Good one! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Don't listen because in nirvana it's not like that. > > > > > It's not empty or cold or barren. You don't remember > > > > > that the ecstasy and completion of absorption in God > > > > > is so fantastic that you can't possibly have lost > > > > > anything because all the things you've always loved > > > > > and always experienced came forth from there and exist > > > > > there and are always there." > > > > > > > > Yes. Only the mind thinks THAT is empty and cold and barren, > > while > > > *at > > > > the same time* recognizing it is completely satisfied, rock- > > bottom > > > at > > > > last in the crystal-clear ocean of paradox. And as it > surrenders > > > into > > > > its own emptiness, Heart awakens into appreciation of its own > > > > fullness, incarnating more and more fully with the attentive > > > breath, > > > > for prana is Brahman :-) > > > > > > A fine piece of writing, that! > > > > > > "the crystal-clear ocean of paradox"- home of mobius dick, eh? > > > > And the Kleinboggle. > > Hiranyagarbha-Torus with a twist, still preserving a semblance of > self-other duality? I'm looking into it... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Deja vu > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Thats the stripper Barry wrote one of his stories about, > right? > > > > > > > > > > I thought that was Toots Sweet. > > > > > > > > There's now effective drugs that can cure that for you Rory. Or > > think of baseball. > > > > > > Cure what? Alzheimer's? And think what of baseball? > > > > Toots Sweet --> Tout suite = quickly; toot ~ too ; strippers ~ sex; > > ==> sex too quickly. > > > > Boy, you need one of Jim's beanie caps! > > You strike me as too clever by half, and as a result, half as clever. You are so witty. Half man, half wit. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > Deja vu > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Thats the stripper Barry wrote one of his stories about, right? > > > > > > > > I thought that was Toots Sweet. > > > > > > There's now effective drugs that can cure that for you Rory. Or > think of baseball. > > > > Cure what? Alzheimer's? And think what of baseball? > > Toots Sweet --> Tout suite = quickly; toot ~ too ; strippers ~ sex; > ==> sex too quickly. > > Boy, you need one of Jim's beanie caps! You strike me as too clever by half, and as a result, half as clever. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > Deja vu > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > > Thats the stripper Barry wrote one of his stories about, right? > > > > > > I thought that was Toots Sweet. > > > > There's now effective drugs that can cure that for you Rory. Or think of baseball. > > Cure what? Alzheimer's? And think what of baseball? Toots Sweet --> Tout suite = quickly; toot ~ too ; strippers ~ sex; ==> sex too quickly. Boy, you need one of Jim's beanie caps! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > "Don't listen because in nirvana it's not like that. > > > > It's not empty or cold or barren. You don't remember > > > > that the ecstasy and completion of absorption in God > > > > is so fantastic that you can't possibly have lost > > > > anything because all the things you've always loved > > > > and always experienced came forth from there and exist > > > > there and are always there." > > > > > > Yes. Only the mind thinks THAT is empty and cold and barren, > while > > *at > > > the same time* recognizing it is completely satisfied, rock- > bottom > > at > > > last in the crystal-clear ocean of paradox. And as it surrenders > > into > > > its own emptiness, Heart awakens into appreciation of its own > > > fullness, incarnating more and more fully with the attentive > > breath, > > > for prana is Brahman :-) > > > > A fine piece of writing, that! > > > > "the crystal-clear ocean of paradox"- home of mobius dick, eh? > > And the Kleinboggle. Hiranyagarbha-Torus with a twist, still preserving a semblance of self-other duality? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Deja vu > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Thats the stripper Barry wrote one of his stories about, right? > > > > I thought that was Toots Sweet. > > There's now effective drugs that can cure that for you Rory. Or think > of baseball. Cure what? Alzheimer's? And think what of baseball? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > "Don't listen because in nirvana it's not like that. > > > It's not empty or cold or barren. You don't remember > > > that the ecstasy and completion of absorption in God > > > is so fantastic that you can't possibly have lost > > > anything because all the things you've always loved > > > and always experienced came forth from there and exist > > > there and are always there." > > > > Yes. Only the mind thinks THAT is empty and cold and barren, while > *at > > the same time* recognizing it is completely satisfied, rock- bottom > at > > last in the crystal-clear ocean of paradox. And as it surrenders > into > > its own emptiness, Heart awakens into appreciation of its own > > fullness, incarnating more and more fully with the attentive > breath, > > for prana is Brahman :-) > > A fine piece of writing, that! > > "the crystal-clear ocean of paradox"- home of mobius dick, eh? And the Kleinboggle. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > A fine piece of writing, that! > > "the crystal-clear ocean of paradox"- home of mobius dick, eh? The whale eating its own tail? I like it :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Deja vu > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Thats the stripper Barry wrote one of his stories about, right? > > I thought that was Toots Sweet. There's now effective drugs that can cure that for you Rory. Or think of baseball. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > "Don't listen because in nirvana it's not like that. > > It's not empty or cold or barren. You don't remember > > that the ecstasy and completion of absorption in God > > is so fantastic that you can't possibly have lost > > anything because all the things you've always loved > > and always experienced came forth from there and exist > > there and are always there." > > Yes. Only the mind thinks THAT is empty and cold and barren, while *at > the same time* recognizing it is completely satisfied, rock-bottom at > last in the crystal-clear ocean of paradox. And as it surrenders into > its own emptiness, Heart awakens into appreciation of its own > fullness, incarnating more and more fully with the attentive breath, > for prana is Brahman :-) A fine piece of writing, that! "the crystal-clear ocean of paradox"- home of mobius dick, eh? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
> > Deja vu --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thats the stripper Barry wrote one of his stories about, right? I thought that was Toots Sweet. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > Unc: > > > > > > Akasha, your attempts to get me to take you seriously > > > > > > aren't going to work any better than Judy's. :-) > > A: > > > > > Ah shucks. My deeply embedded desire to have you take me > > seriously is my last smaskara, the resolution of which would have > > brought me > > > > > eternal residence in the NOW, total liberation from the > cycle of > > > > > birth and death, Brahman Incarnate. > > > > > > > > > > Damn, foiled again!!! > > > > J: > > > > Just appreciate the Now, Akasha, just appreciate the Now. > > > > > > > > We've got a really delicious Now going here... > > > > R: > > > I don't get it; could you explain it to me again and again and > > > again? :-) > > > > A: > > Only if you ask, over and over and over and over again and again > and > > again. > > Deja vu Thats the stripper Barry wrote one of his stories about, right? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Unc: > > > > > Akasha, your attempts to get me to take you seriously > > > > > aren't going to work any better than Judy's. :-) > A: > > > > Ah shucks. My deeply embedded desire to have you take me > seriously is my last smaskara, the resolution of which would have > brought me > > > > eternal residence in the NOW, total liberation from the cycle of > > > > birth and death, Brahman Incarnate. > > > > > > > > Damn, foiled again!!! > > J: > > > Just appreciate the Now, Akasha, just appreciate the Now. > > > > > > We've got a really delicious Now going here... > > R: > > I don't get it; could you explain it to me again and again and > > again? :-) > > A: > Only if you ask, over and over and over and over again and again and > again. Deja vu Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
> > > Unc: > > > > Akasha, your attempts to get me to take you seriously > > > > aren't going to work any better than Judy's. :-) A: > > > Ah shucks. My deeply embedded desire to have you take me seriously is my last smaskara, the resolution of which would have brought me > > > eternal residence in the NOW, total liberation from the cycle of > > > birth and death, Brahman Incarnate. > > > > > > Damn, foiled again!!! J: > > Just appreciate the Now, Akasha, just appreciate the Now. > > > > We've got a really delicious Now going here... R: > I don't get it; could you explain it to me again and again and > again? :-) A: Only if you ask, over and over and over and over again and again and again. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Unc: > > > Akasha, your attempts to get me to take you seriously > > > aren't going to work any better than Judy's. :-) > > > > Ah shucks. My deeply embedded desire to have you take me seriously is > > my last smaskara, the resolution of which would have brought me > > eternal residence in the NOW, total liberation from the cycle of > > birth and death, Brahman Incarnate. > > > > Damn, foiled again!!! > > Just appreciate the Now, Akasha, just appreciate the Now. > > We've got a really delicious Now going here... I don't get it; could you explain it to me again and again and again? :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > Jim: > > > > What is sitting on top of my head makes a Cray look like a rock, > > > > with regard to relative processing power. What is sitting on top > > of > > > > my head is a universal neural net with infinite computing power, > > > > plugged in and ready to go!!! Thanks for the suggestion, > > > > though...got any more 'good ones'? > > > > > > So when is the output of your blackbox going to start being > reflected > > > in your posts? :) > > > > Output? A *real* programmer don't have to show you > > no steenkin' output! > > Treasure of the Sierra Mudra? *rofl* Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "Don't listen because in nirvana it's not like that. > It's not empty or cold or barren. You don't remember > that the ecstasy and completion of absorption in God > is so fantastic that you can't possibly have lost > anything because all the things you've always loved > and always experienced came forth from there and exist > there and are always there." Yes. Only the mind thinks THAT is empty and cold and barren, while *at the same time* recognizing it is completely satisfied, rock-bottom at last in the crystal-clear ocean of paradox. And as it surrenders into its own emptiness, Heart awakens into appreciation of its own fullness, incarnating more and more fully with the attentive breath, for prana is Brahman :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Jim: > > > What is sitting on top of my head makes a Cray look like a rock, > > > with regard to relative processing power. What is sitting on top > of > > > my head is a universal neural net with infinite computing power, > > > plugged in and ready to go!!! Thanks for the suggestion, > > > though...got any more 'good ones'? > > > > So when is the output of your blackbox going to start being reflected > > in your posts? :) > > Output? A *real* programmer don't have to show you > no steenkin' output! Treasure of the Sierra Mudra? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Unc: > > > Akasha, your attempts to get me to take you seriously > > > aren't going to work any better than Judy's. :-) > > > > Ah shucks. My deeply embedded desire to have you take me seriously > > is my last smaskara, the resolution of which would have brought me > > eternal residence in the NOW, total liberation from the cycle of > > birth and death, Brahman Incarnate. > > > > Damn, foiled again!!! > > No fair! You're appealing to the selfless service > aspect of me... Is that your (very) small self? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jim: > > What is sitting on top of my head makes a Cray look like a rock, > > with regard to relative processing power. What is sitting on top of > > my head is a universal neural net with infinite computing power, > > plugged in and ready to go!!! Thanks for the suggestion, > > though...got any more 'good ones'? > > So when is the output of your blackbox going to start being reflected > in your posts? :) Output? A *real* programmer don't have to show you no steenkin' output! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Unc: > > Akasha, your attempts to get me to take you seriously > > aren't going to work any better than Judy's. :-) > > Ah shucks. My deeply embedded desire to have you take me seriously > is my last smaskara, the resolution of which would have brought me > eternal residence in the NOW, total liberation from the cycle of > birth and death, Brahman Incarnate. > > Damn, foiled again!!! No fair! You're appealing to the selfless service aspect of me... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Speaking of sexual aberration, it goes the other way too- I recall > Maharishi talking about the small self holding the Self in bondage > (!). YES! Claiming *seriously* that it is only a victim all the while! Priceless comedy; talk about your Stooges or Marx brothers! :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jim: > > What is sitting on top of my head makes a Cray look like a rock, > > with regard to relative processing power. What is sitting on top of > > my head is a universal neural net with infinite computing power, > > plugged in and ready to go!!! Thanks for the suggestion, > > though...got any more 'good ones'? > > So when is the output of your blackbox going to start being reflected > in your posts? :) Oops, it isn't MY blackbox (nor is it black, nor a box, but of course, you knew that didn't you?) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > > Attempted spiritual rape. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ah! Fodder for Rick and his fascination with all the > > > > > > kiss-and-tell babes with regard to Maharishi. Perhaps > > > > > > all that ever happened was that he tried to tell them > > > > > > something about themselves they didn't want to hear, > > > > > > and in their minds, that became rape. > > > > > > > > > > Yup, that's one of the rapist's favorite excuses: > > > > > All she needed was a really good screwing. > > > > > > > > Ohmygod, she's actually serious! :-) > > > > > > > > The small self is REALLY feeling threatened this time. > > > > > > It's interesting how "rape" is cognate with "rapture," and too > > > how the self can see the "rapture" of the Self as a "rape," > > > and "therapist" as "the rapist." > > > > It would be fascinating if it weren't so scary. > > A self so terrified of losing itself that it > > sees Self as attempted rape. > > Well, it's just another story -- one I can certainly relate and > relate to, as it has seemed that way to me sometimes :-) I guess I was fortunate, in that none of the experiences in my life of self dropping away and leaving only Self have had the least bit of dread or resistance associated with them. Interestingly enough, it was the same with acid, back in my hippie days. Everyone I knew had at least one "bummer," in which the fear of losing self became so predominant that the person "freaked out." Me, for what- ever reason, I just went with it and had great unity exper- iences. Go figure. All this brou-ha-ha (ha ha) has made me remember a great rap by the Rama fellow I studied with, dealing with this same subject: "At the border of nirvana there's a crossing. And when you reach the border of nirvana, someone will come up to you and inform you that if you enter into nirvana everything that you've ever loved will be lost. You will be alone. There will be the most terrible aloneness that you can imagine. You will be alienated from everything, including yourself, forever. A sense of drifting in a cold, desolate space forever. "At that moment, O nobly-born, all the images from all of your lives will come forward and will demand your attention. They will say, 'Don't cross over there. You will lose us and you will be sorrowful and empty and void.' "If you listen to what that fellow at the border tells you, then you won't cross over. You'll go back to all the things that have bound you and limited you also. You'll go back to both because in the world of duality you have the pairs of opposites. "If you listen to me, which no one does, fortunately, I would suggest that it's not like that at all. That when that fellow comes up to you and warns you against crossing the border, you'll say, 'Listen, several lifetimes ago I read one of Rama's books and while he very rarely says anything of any value whatsoever, there was one point he made which I put on a 3x5 file card which I happen to have in my back pocket. And I was going to review it because he said I'd run into you. I didn't actually believe it at the time but now that I've run into you I just happen to have this file card tucked away here and I'd like to examine it for a moment, if you don't mind.' "And of course he'll say, 'We don't have time, the worlds are turning, existence is manifesting...' And you'll say, 'Just a minute!' You'll take out your faded 3x5 file card, it's a few lifetimes old -- actually, it would be better if you had a plastic one which you had laser engraved, because as we all know plastic lasts forever -- and it says, 'DON'T LISTEN.' Hopefully, it will be in the right language. "Don't listen because in nirvana it's not like that. It's not empty or cold or barren. You don't remember that the ecstasy and completion of absorption in God is so fantastic that you can't possibly have lost anything because all the things you've always loved and always experienced came forth from there and exist there and are always there." Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Attempted spiritual rape. > > > > > > > > > > Ah! Fodder for Rick and his fascination with all the > > > > > kiss-and-tell babes with regard to Maharishi. Perhaps > > > > > all that ever happened was that he tried to tell them > > > > > something about themselves they didn't want to hear, > > > > > and in their minds, that became rape. > > > > > > > > Yup, that's one of the rapist's favorite excuses: > > > > All she needed was a really good screwing. > > > > > > Ohmygod, she's actually serious! :-) > > > > > > The small self is REALLY feeling threatened this time. > > > > It's interesting how "rape" is cognate with "rapture," and too > > how the self can see the "rapture" of the Self as a "rape," > > and "therapist" as "the rapist." > > It would be fascinating if it weren't so scary. > A self so terrified of losing itself that it > sees Self as attempted rape. Speaking of sexual aberration, it goes the other way too- I recall Maharishi talking about the small self holding the Self in bondage (!). Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jim: > > What is sitting on top of my head makes a Cray look like a rock, > > with regard to relative processing power. What is sitting on top of > > my head is a universal neural net with infinite computing power, > > plugged in and ready to go!!! Thanks for the suggestion, > > though...got any more 'good ones'? > > So when is the output of your blackbox going to start being reflected > in your posts? :) We all see what we need to, hey, Akasha? :) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
Jim: > What is sitting on top of my head makes a Cray look like a rock, > with regard to relative processing power. What is sitting on top of > my head is a universal neural net with infinite computing power, > plugged in and ready to go!!! Thanks for the suggestion, > though...got any more 'good ones'? So when is the output of your blackbox going to start being reflected in your posts? :) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Unc: > > Akasha, your attempts to get me to take you seriously > > aren't going to work any better than Judy's. :-) > > Ah shucks. My deeply embedded desire to have you take me seriously is > my last smaskara, the resolution of which would have brought me > eternal residence in the NOW, total liberation from the cycle of > birth and death, Brahman Incarnate. > > Damn, foiled again!!! Just appreciate the Now, Akasha, just appreciate the Now. We've got a really delicious Now going here... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Rory: > > > > > > > > > > If you would rather not do the Work, that is > > > > (apparently) > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > prerogative :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Judy: > > > > > > > > > Try again, Rory, you still ain't getting it. > > > > > > A: > > > > > > > > Maybe Rory can have Jim process it in the Cray sitting > > on > > > top > > > > > > > > of his head. What is sitting on top of my head makes a Cray look like a rock, with regard to relative processing power. What is sitting on top of my head is a universal neural net with infinite computing power, plugged in and ready to go!!! Thanks for the suggestion, though...got any more 'good ones'? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
Unc: > Akasha, your attempts to get me to take you seriously > aren't going to work any better than Judy's. :-) Ah shucks. My deeply embedded desire to have you take me seriously is my last smaskara, the resolution of which would have brought me eternal residence in the NOW, total liberation from the cycle of birth and death, Brahman Incarnate. Damn, foiled again!!! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Attempted spiritual rape. > > > > > > > > > > Ah! Fodder for Rick and his fascination with all the > > > > > kiss-and-tell babes with regard to Maharishi. Perhaps > > > > > all that ever happened was that he tried to tell them > > > > > something about themselves they didn't want to hear, > > > > > and in their minds, that became rape. > > > > > > > > Yup, that's one of the rapist's favorite excuses: > > > > All she needed was a really good screwing. > > > > > > Ohmygod, she's actually serious! :-) > > > > > > The small self is REALLY feeling threatened this time. > > > > It's interesting how "rape" is cognate with "rapture," and too > > how the self can see the "rapture" of the Self as a "rape," > > and "therapist" as "the rapist." > > It would be fascinating if it weren't so scary. > A self so terrified of losing itself that it > sees Self as attempted rape. Well, it's just another story -- one I can certainly relate and relate to, as it has seemed that way to me sometimes :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
> > > > > Attempted spiritual rape. > > > > > > > > Ah! Fodder for Rick and his fascination with all the > > > > kiss-and-tell babes with regard to Maharishi. Perhaps > > > > all that ever happened was that he tried to tell them > > > > something about themselves they didn't want to hear, > > > > and in their minds, that became rape. > > > > > > Yup, that's one of the rapist's favorite excuses: > > > All she needed was a really good screwing. > > > > Ohmygod, she's actually serious! :-) > > > > The small self is REALLY feeling threatened this time. > > It's interesting how "rape" is cognate with "rapture," and too > how the self can see the "rapture" of the Self as a "rape," > and "therapist" as "the rapist." It would be fascinating if it weren't so scary. A self so terrified of losing itself that it sees Self as attempted rape. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Rory: > > > > > > > > > If you would rather not do the Work, that is > > > (apparently) > > > > your > > > > > > > > > prerogative :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Judy: > > > > > > > > Try again, Rory, you still ain't getting it. > > > > > A: > > > > > > > Maybe Rory can have Jim process it in the Cray sitting > on > > top > > > > > > > of his head. > > > > > J: > > > > > > Hey, I already suggested that! > > > > > > > > > > Rory needs to have things repeated to him before he gets it > > > > > sometimes. > > > > > > > > > > (You have been saying "stop this nonesense, stop harassing > me" > > > > > for 10 > > > > > cycles of posts now, and he still doesn't seem to get it. ) > > > > > > > > Attempted spiritual rape. > > > > > > Ah! Fodder for Rick and his fascination with all the > > > kiss-and-tell babes with regard to Maharishi. Perhaps > > > all that ever happened was that he tried to tell them > > > something about themselves they didn't want to hear, > > > and in their minds, that became rape. > > > > Yup, that's one of the rapist's favorite excuses: > > All she needed was a really good screwing. > > Ohmygod, she's actually serious! :-) > > The small self is REALLY feeling threatened this time. It's interesting how "rape" is cognate with "rapture," and too how the self can see the "rapture" of the Self as a "rape," and "therapist" as "the rapist." The issue would as always I suppose boil down to informed consent. Does the moth ever really consent to be immolated in the flame it dances around? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Rory: > > > > > > > > > If you would rather not do the Work, that is > > > (apparently) > > > > your > > > > > > > > > prerogative :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Judy: > > > > > > > > Try again, Rory, you still ain't getting it. > > > > > A: > > > > > > > Maybe Rory can have Jim process it in the Cray sitting > on > > top > > > > > > > of his head. > > > > > J: > > > > > > Hey, I already suggested that! > > > > > > > > > > Rory needs to have things repeated to him before he gets it > > > > > sometimes. > > > > > > > > > > (You have been saying "stop this nonesense, stop harassing > me" > > > > > for 10 > > > > > cycles of posts now, and he still doesn't seem to get it. ) > > > > > > > > Attempted spiritual rape. > > > > > > Ah! Fodder for Rick and his fascination with all the > > > kiss-and-tell babes with regard to Maharishi. Perhaps > > > all that ever happened was that he tried to tell them > > > something about themselves they didn't want to hear, > > > and in their minds, that became rape. > > > > Yup, that's one of the rapist's favorite excuses: > > All she needed was a really good screwing. > > Ohmygod, she's actually serious! :-) > > The small self is REALLY feeling threatened this time. Barry, that's the *TV show*, remember? Turn it *off*, for pete's sake. You know, appreciate the Now. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > I've switched channels, and haven't really > > > been following "Wheel Of Karma," but I thought > > > I'd let you guys know that over on the Springer > > > channel the guest is a favorite "repeat guest." > > > She's been on the show several times a year for > > > over ten years now, and they keep asking her back. > > > She's a favorite with the audience, because every > > > time she's on, she tells the same old tale of > > > woe. On every show, people on the stage and > > > people from the audience give her sincere advice > > > about things she could do to be a little happier, > > > but she never does any of them. She says it's > > > because intellectually, she has analyzed each > > > of the suggestions and knows that they cannot > > > work. Me, I just think it's because she likes > > > the attention she gets from being on the Springer > > > show, and doesn't know what she'd say on it if > > > she weren't miserable any more. > > > > Try watching real life for a change, Barry. Believe > > me, it's *far* more interesting. > > Not really. The real-life model for my made-up > Springer character and *her* infinitely-repeating > tales of woe are much more boring than the fictional > version. The problem with watching too much TV is that you start creating your own fantasies and mistaking them for real life. Why anyone would want to create *boring* fantasies is another question entirely. But I guess maybe real life is just too challenging for some. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > Rory: > > > > > > > > If you would rather not do the Work, that is > > (apparently) > > > your > > > > > > > > prerogative :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > Judy: > > > > > > > Try again, Rory, you still ain't getting it. > > > > A: > > > > > > Maybe Rory can have Jim process it in the Cray sitting on > top > > > > > > of his head. > > > > J: > > > > > Hey, I already suggested that! > > > > > > > > Rory needs to have things repeated to him before he gets it > > > > sometimes. > > > > > > > > (You have been saying "stop this nonesense, stop harassing me" > > > > for 10 > > > > cycles of posts now, and he still doesn't seem to get it. ) > > > > > > Attempted spiritual rape. > > > > Ah! Fodder for Rick and his fascination with all the > > kiss-and-tell babes with regard to Maharishi. Perhaps > > all that ever happened was that he tried to tell them > > something about themselves they didn't want to hear, > > and in their minds, that became rape. > > Yup, that's one of the rapist's favorite excuses: > All she needed was a really good screwing. Ohmygod, she's actually serious! :-) The small self is REALLY feeling threatened this time. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > Rory: > > > > > > > If you would rather not do the Work, that is > (apparently) > > your > > > > > > > prerogative :-) > > > > > > > > > > Judy: > > > > > > Try again, Rory, you still ain't getting it. > > > A: > > > > > Maybe Rory can have Jim process it in the Cray sitting on top > > > > > of his head. > > > J: > > > > Hey, I already suggested that! > > > > > > Rory needs to have things repeated to him before he gets it > > > sometimes. > > > > > > (You have been saying "stop this nonesense, stop harassing me" > > > for 10 > > > cycles of posts now, and he still doesn't seem to get it. ) > > > > Attempted spiritual rape. > > Ah! Fodder for Rick and his fascination with all the > kiss-and-tell babes with regard to Maharishi. Perhaps > all that ever happened was that he tried to tell them > something about themselves they didn't want to hear, > and in their minds, that became rape. Yup, that's one of the rapist's favorite excuses: All she needed was a really good screwing. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > I've switched channels, and haven't really > > been following "Wheel Of Karma," but I thought > > I'd let you guys know that over on the Springer > > channel the guest is a favorite "repeat guest." > > She's been on the show several times a year for > > over ten years now, and they keep asking her back. > > She's a favorite with the audience, because every > > time she's on, she tells the same old tale of > > woe. On every show, people on the stage and > > people from the audience give her sincere advice > > about things she could do to be a little happier, > > but she never does any of them. She says it's > > because intellectually, she has analyzed each > > of the suggestions and knows that they cannot > > work. Me, I just think it's because she likes > > the attention she gets from being on the Springer > > show, and doesn't know what she'd say on it if > > she weren't miserable any more. > > Try watching real life for a change, Barry. Believe > me, it's *far* more interesting. Not really. The real-life model for my made-up Springer character and *her* infinitely-repeating tales of woe are much more boring than the fictional version. The Springer babe has been known to laugh at herself at least once in the past ten years... :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Judy: > > > > > But that's yet another iteration of the regress. > > > > > "Desire to grow" and "appreciate the Now" are > > > > > mutually exclusive, not just intellectually but > > > > > experientially. > > Rory: > > > > I appreciate how it could look like this intellectually, and how > > it is evidently your experience, but I don't find it to be the case > > > > intellectually or experientially at all. ... > > You are now seeing differences? I thought it was all Oneness? Oh please, Akasha, don't make me out to be more stupid than I actually am :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Attempted spiritual rape. > > Fortunately I'm wearing my black belt... Fortunately... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've switched channels, and haven't really > been following "Wheel Of Karma," but I thought > I'd let you guys know that over on the Springer > channel the guest is a favorite "repeat guest." > She's been on the show several times a year for > over ten years now, and they keep asking her back. > She's a favorite with the audience, because every > time she's on, she tells the same old tale of > woe. On every show, people on the stage and > people from the audience give her sincere advice > about things she could do to be a little happier, > but she never does any of them. She says it's > because intellectually, she has analyzed each > of the suggestions and knows that they cannot > work. Me, I just think it's because she likes > the attention she gets from being on the Springer > show, and doesn't know what she'd say on it if > she weren't miserable any more. Try watching real life for a change, Barry. Believe me, it's *far* more interesting. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Rory: > > > > > > If you would rather not do the Work, that is (apparently) > your > > > > > > prerogative :-) > > > > > > > > Judy: > > > > > Try again, Rory, you still ain't getting it. > > A: > > > > Maybe Rory can have Jim process it in the Cray sitting on top > > > > of his head. > > J: > > > Hey, I already suggested that! > > > > Rory needs to have things repeated to him before he gets it > > sometimes. > > > > (You have been saying "stop this nonesense, stop harassing me" > > for 10 > > cycles of posts now, and he still doesn't seem to get it. ) > > Attempted spiritual rape. Ah! Fodder for Rick and his fascination with all the kiss-and-tell babes with regard to Maharishi. Perhaps all that ever happened was that he tried to tell them something about themselves they didn't want to hear, and in their minds, that became rape. So Maharihi's off the hook. Don't you all feel much better now? :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
Judy: > > > > But that's yet another iteration of the regress. > > > > "Desire to grow" and "appreciate the Now" are > > > > mutually exclusive, not just intellectually but > > > > experientially. Rory: > > > I appreciate how it could look like this intellectually, and how > it is evidently your experience, but I don't find it to be the case > > > intellectually or experientially at all. ... You are now seeing differences? I thought it was all Oneness? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Rory: > > > > > If you would rather not do the Work, that is (apparently) your > > > > > prerogative :-) > > > > > > Judy: > > > > Try again, Rory, you still ain't getting it. > A: > > > Maybe Rory can have Jim process it in the Cray sitting on top > > > of his head. > J: > > Hey, I already suggested that! > > Rory needs to have things repeated to him before he gets it > sometimes. > > (You have been saying "stop this nonesense, stop harassing me" for 10 > cycles of posts now, and he still doesn't seem to get it. ) Attempted spiritual rape. Fortunately I'm wearing my black belt... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > It ain't the body, Rory. Isn't it? Yet another place where we differ! :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > Rory: > > > > *lol* I don't give a crap ... > > > > > > Ah so reevaling on so many levels. > > > > > > Those that are constipated often are oblivious to others' concerns, > > > since they are focussed on trying to "push" their "agendas" out for > > > all to endure. > > > > > > * lol* *lol* *lol* :) :) :) > > > > I am not constipated, Akasha, in this body at least; sorry to > > disappoint you :-) > > It ain't the body, Rory. Isn't it? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Rory: > > > *lol* I don't give a crap ... > > > > Ah so reevaling on so many levels. > > > > Those that are constipated often are oblivious to others' concerns, > > since they are focussed on trying to "push" their "agendas" out for > > all to endure. > > > > * lol* *lol* *lol* :) :) :) > > I am not constipated, Akasha, in this body at least; sorry to > disappoint you :-) It ain't the body, Rory. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Ask yourself whether there might be something just a bit > > > > > peculiar about the concept of "a technique to enable > > > > > us to appreciate the Now." > > > > > > > > Yes, Judy, I am familiar with your "infinite regress" > > > > argument -- it just doesn't apply here, at least in any > > > > meaningful way. The fact is, these techniques do work, if we > > > > really feel we have a sincere need or desire to "grow." > > > > > > But that's yet another iteration of the regress. > > > "Desire to grow" and "appreciate the Now" are > > > mutually exclusive, not just intellectually but > > > experientially. > > > > I appreciate how it could look like this intellectually, and how it > > is evidently your experience, but I don't find it to be the case > > intellectually or experientially at all. Part of the paradox, I > > suppose. > > Part of the difference between us. Vive la difference! :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > Ask yourself whether there might be something just a bit > > > > peculiar about the concept of "a technique to enable > > > > us to appreciate the Now." > > > > > > Yes, Judy, I am familiar with your "infinite regress" > > > argument -- it just doesn't apply here, at least in any > > > meaningful way. The fact is, these techniques do work, if we > > > really feel we have a sincere need or desire to "grow." > > > > But that's yet another iteration of the regress. > > "Desire to grow" and "appreciate the Now" are > > mutually exclusive, not just intellectually but > > experientially. > > I appreciate how it could look like this intellectually, and how it > is evidently your experience, but I don't find it to be the case > intellectually or experientially at all. Part of the paradox, I > suppose. Part of the difference between us. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Rory: > > > > *lol* I don't give a crap ... > > > > > > Ah so reevaling on so many levels. > > > > > > Those that are constipated often are oblivious to others' concerns, > > > since they are focussed on trying to "push" their "agendas" out for > > > all to endure. > > > > > > * lol* *lol* *lol* :) :) :) > > > > I am not constipated, Akasha, in this body at least; sorry to > > disappoint you :-) > > I'm relieved. *rofl* good one Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > Ask yourself whether there might be something just a bit > > > peculiar about the concept of "a technique to enable > > > us to appreciate the Now." > > > > Yes, Judy, I am familiar with your "infinite regress" argument -- > > it just doesn't apply here, at least in any meaningful way. The > > fact is, these techniques do work, if we really feel we have a > > sincere need or desire to "grow." > > But that's yet another iteration of the regress. > "Desire to grow" and "appreciate the Now" are > mutually exclusive, not just intellectually but > experientially. > > Each is valid on its own level, but as long as > you're doing one, you aren't doing the other. > > That's why this kind of thing has never worked > for me. I've switched channels, and haven't really been following "Wheel Of Karma," but I thought I'd let you guys know that over on the Springer channel the guest is a favorite "repeat guest." She's been on the show several times a year for over ten years now, and they keep asking her back. She's a favorite with the audience, because every time she's on, she tells the same old tale of woe. On every show, people on the stage and people from the audience give her sincere advice about things she could do to be a little happier, but she never does any of them. She says it's because intellectually, she has analyzed each of the suggestions and knows that they cannot work. Me, I just think it's because she likes the attention she gets from being on the Springer show, and doesn't know what she'd say on it if she weren't miserable any more. Gotta go now...she's about to tell the same story she's told hundreds of times now, and I have to listen closely to see if anything's changed since the last time she was on... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Rory: > > > *lol* I don't give a crap ... > > > > Ah so reevaling on so many levels. > > > > Those that are constipated often are oblivious to others' concerns, > > since they are focussed on trying to "push" their "agendas" out for > > all to endure. > > > > * lol* *lol* *lol* :) :) :) > > I am not constipated, Akasha, in this body at least; sorry to > disappoint you :-) I'm relieved. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Rory: > > *lol* I don't give a crap ... > > Ah so reevaling on so many levels. > > Those that are constipated often are oblivious to others' concerns, > since they are focussed on trying to "push" their "agendas" out for > all to endure. > > * lol* *lol* *lol* :) :) :) I am not constipated, Akasha, in this body at least; sorry to disappoint you :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (1) The small self *is* Judy. Judy's the > > > > > illusion. > > > > > > > > > > (2) Being in ignorance is *not* what Judy is > > > > > complaining about, never has been. > > > > > > > > > > (3) All three of you--Rory, Barry, and Jim--have > > > > > completely missed the point I was making to Rory. > > > > > I really didn't think I was being *that* subtle. > > > > > > > > > > Take another look at what I wrote a little earlier > > > > > in the thread, commenting on Rory's attempt to > > > > > play therapist: > > > > > > > > > > "If I work *really really hard* on this, someday > > > > > in the future I may come to be able to appreciate > > > > > the Now." > > > > > > > > *lol* Yes, I appreciate(d) your intellectual attempt to turn > > this > > > > into an infinitely regressing paradox, but didn't really think > > it > > > > was worth commenting on :-) > > > > > > Now if you'd just take out the "lol" and the > > > smiley face, I might be convinced you were > > > capable of expressing an honest reaction. > > > > *lol* I don't give a crap what you might or not be convinced of :-) > > Good, Rory. Now see if you can do without those > two crutches. *lol* :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > Ask yourself whether there might be something just a bit > > > peculiar about the concept of "a technique to enable > > > us to appreciate the Now." > > > > Yes, Judy, I am familiar with your "infinite regress" argument -- > > it just doesn't apply here, at least in any meaningful way. The > > fact is, these techniques do work, if we really feel we have a > > sincere need or desire to "grow." > > But that's yet another iteration of the regress. > "Desire to grow" and "appreciate the Now" are > mutually exclusive, not just intellectually but > experientially. I appreciate how it could look like this intellectually, and how it is evidently your experience, but I don't find it to be the case intellectually or experientially at all. Part of the paradox, I suppose. > Each is valid on its own level, but as long as > you're doing one, you aren't doing the other. > > That's why this kind of thing has never worked > for me. I can see the appeal of this belief-system. It is nice and neat, and saves us the trouble of having to take any personal responsibility for our perceptions :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
Rory: > *lol* I don't give a crap ... Ah so reevaling on so many levels. Those that are constipated often are oblivious to others' concerns, since they are focussed on trying to "push" their "agendas" out for all to endure. * lol* *lol* *lol* :) :) :) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > (1) The small self *is* Judy. Judy's the > > > > illusion. > > > > > > > > (2) Being in ignorance is *not* what Judy is > > > > complaining about, never has been. > > > > > > > > (3) All three of you--Rory, Barry, and Jim--have > > > > completely missed the point I was making to Rory. > > > > I really didn't think I was being *that* subtle. > > > > > > > > Take another look at what I wrote a little earlier > > > > in the thread, commenting on Rory's attempt to > > > > play therapist: > > > > > > > > "If I work *really really hard* on this, someday > > > > in the future I may come to be able to appreciate > > > > the Now." > > > > > > *lol* Yes, I appreciate(d) your intellectual attempt to turn > this > > > into an infinitely regressing paradox, but didn't really think > it > > > was worth commenting on :-) > > > > Now if you'd just take out the "lol" and the > > smiley face, I might be convinced you were > > capable of expressing an honest reaction. > > *lol* I don't give a crap what you might or not be convinced of :-) Good, Rory. Now see if you can do without those two crutches. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Ask yourself whether there might be something just a bit > > peculiar about the concept of "a technique to enable > > us to appreciate the Now." > > Yes, Judy, I am familiar with your "infinite regress" argument -- > it just doesn't apply here, at least in any meaningful way. The > fact is, these techniques do work, if we really feel we have a > sincere need or desire to "grow." But that's yet another iteration of the regress. "Desire to grow" and "appreciate the Now" are mutually exclusive, not just intellectually but experientially. Each is valid on its own level, but as long as you're doing one, you aren't doing the other. That's why this kind of thing has never worked for me. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > (1) The small self *is* Judy. Judy's the > > > illusion. > > > > > > (2) Being in ignorance is *not* what Judy is > > > complaining about, never has been. > > > > > > (3) All three of you--Rory, Barry, and Jim--have > > > completely missed the point I was making to Rory. > > > I really didn't think I was being *that* subtle. > > > > > > Take another look at what I wrote a little earlier > > > in the thread, commenting on Rory's attempt to > > > play therapist: > > > > > > "If I work *really really hard* on this, someday > > > in the future I may come to be able to appreciate > > > the Now." > > > > *lol* Yes, I appreciate(d) your intellectual attempt to turn this > > into an infinitely regressing paradox, but didn't really think it > > was worth commenting on :-) > > Now if you'd just take out the "lol" and the > smiley face, I might be convinced you were > capable of expressing an honest reaction. *lol* I don't give a crap what you might or not be convinced of :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Rory: > > > > > If you would rather not do the Work, that is (apparently) your > > > > > prerogative :-) > > > > > > Judy: > > > > Try again, Rory, you still ain't getting it. > A: > > > Maybe Rory can have Jim process it in the Cray sitting on top > > > of his head. > J: > > Hey, I already suggested that! > > Rory needs to have things repeated to him before he gets it sometimes. > > (You have been saying "stop this nonesense, stop harassing me" for 10 > cycles of posts now, and he still doesn't seem to get it. ) *lol* We see what we need to see, don't we? :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Unc: > > > > "It" is the seed in a seedless orange, of course. :-) > > Judy: > > > Wrongaroonie. Try again. > > U: > > Oh. I didn't realize it was a Quiz Show. Sorry. > > > > Is this "Wheel Of Karma," that show where the person > > who has never experienced clear, sustained, 24/7 > > witnessing gets to define it, and its relationship > > to enlightenment as a whole, for those who have? > > > > I'd watch, but "Jerry Springer" is on the other > > channel... :-) > > Is that the show where rajas throw their thrones at each other? > (Don't look at my Rajariness like that your Highness Dude!) Akasha, your attempts to get me to take you seriously aren't going to work any better than Judy's. :-) But now that you mention it, there just *was* an incident of throne-throwing on Springer. Two rajas started whacking at each other with their chairs, and while the Jerryguards were distracted trying to break up the fight, their wives (whose names, in accordance with TM etiquette, were never mentioned) got into this awesome, screaming catfight, trying to rip each other's saris off. And someone once said that television was a vast wasteland... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > (1) The small self *is* Judy. Judy's the > > illusion. > > > > (2) Being in ignorance is *not* what Judy is > > complaining about, never has been. > > > > (3) All three of you--Rory, Barry, and Jim--have > > completely missed the point I was making to Rory. > > I really didn't think I was being *that* subtle. > > > > Take another look at what I wrote a little earlier > > in the thread, commenting on Rory's attempt to > > play therapist: > > > > "If I work *really really hard* on this, someday > > in the future I may come to be able to appreciate > > the Now." > > *lol* Yes, I appreciate(d) your intellectual attempt to turn this > into an infinitely regressing paradox, but didn't really think it > was worth commenting on :-) Now if you'd just take out the "lol" and the smiley face, I might be convinced you were capable of expressing an honest reaction. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So I'm sitting there not appreciating the Now, > > > > > > > > and I say to myself, "I'd rather be appreciating > > > > > > > > the Now." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My point is that you've gotten yourself into > > > > > > > > yet another infinite regress when you "prescribe" > > > > > > > > appreciating the Now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some Suggestions on How to Appreciate the Now: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) Pay attention to whatever is in front of us. How are > we > > > > > > > feeling? If we feel good, the exercise is done. If not, > > try > > > > > > > step 2. > > > > > > > > > > > > "It would be better if I felt good." > > > > > > > > > > And so how do we feel? Not-good? Is that the same as bad? > What > > > > > kind of bad? Itchy? Weepy? Stubborn? Guilty? Angry? "Not- > good" > > is > > > > > a good start, but perhaps let's dig a little deeper, taking > > our > > > > > time, allowing it to breathe. Where in the body would it be, > > if > > > > > it were in the body? > > > > > > > > Another very useful technique, with the limitation > > > > inherent in any technique. It must actually be > > > > practiced, not just read and discarded. > > > > > > Yes indeedydoo. If we're not appreciating the Now, > > > and we think it would be better if we did, we should > > > practice this technique so we can get rid of all > > > those nasty obstacles sitting there in the way. > > > > > > > > > > *lol* I like your laugh. No, it is not to "get rid" of the > > obstacles at all; it is to refine our attention sufficiently to > > appreciate them and integrate them as aspects of our Wholeness. :-) > > Yes indeedydoo. If we aren't sufficiently appreciating > the obstacles to be able to integrate them as aspects of > our Wholeness, and we think it would be better if we did, > we should practice this technique to get rid of all the > nasty obstacles to that appreciation and integration > sitting there in the way. > > Think "infinite regress," Rory. Think "going around in > circles." > > Ask yourself whether there might be something just a bit > peculiar about the concept of "a technique to enable > us to appreciate the Now." Yes, Judy, I am familiar with your "infinite regress" argument -- it just doesn't apply here, at least in any meaningful way. The fact is, these techniques do work, if we really feel we have a sincere need or desire to "grow." The truth is, of course, there *is* no growth; we *are* throroughly enjoying the Now, always have been, always will be. I was using a spacetime "perspective" to communicate with any small portion of Us which might still believe itself "trapped" in those illusory limitations. But I am happy if you are -- and even if you aren't :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
> > Rory: > > > > If you would rather not do the Work, that is (apparently) your > > > > prerogative :-) > > > > Judy: > > > Try again, Rory, you still ain't getting it. A: > > Maybe Rory can have Jim process it in the Cray sitting on top > > of his head. J: > Hey, I already suggested that! Rory needs to have things repeated to him before he gets it sometimes. (You have been saying "stop this nonesense, stop harassing me" for 10 cycles of posts now, and he still doesn't seem to get it. ) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
Unc: > > > > > And getting smaller with every labored defense... Akasha: > > > > And in contrast, the Unc small self is getting bigger with > > > > each new barb? U: > > > I haven't dated anyone named barb since I was in the > > > TM movement, but as I remember it, she definitely > > > made parts of me get bigger. A: > > An engorged ego ? > She actually *did* have a thing for big egos, and > was a bit of a starfucker within the TM movement. > Probably did Bevan and Hagelin at the same time. :-) Oh. THAT barb. I thought you meant the other one. Well, I bet it was magical. Even if some moments were grey. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Rory: > > > If you would rather not do the Work, that is (apparently) your > > > prerogative :-) > > Judy: > > Try again, Rory, you still ain't getting it. > > Maybe Rory can have Jim process it in the Cray sitting on top > of his head. Hey, I already suggested that! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Rory: > > > If you would rather not do the Work, that is (apparently) your > > > prerogative :-) > > Judy: > > Try again, Rory, you still ain't getting it. > > Maybe Rory can have Jim process it in the Cray sitting on top of his head. Maybe there is nothing to process :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > And what is the "it" you believe the definition in > > > > question refers to for which I'm proposing the term > > > > "CC" be used as shorthand? > > > > > > "It" is the seed in a seedless orange, of course. :-) > > > > Wrongaroonie. Try again. > > Oh. I didn't realize it was a Quiz Show. Sorry. > > Is this "Wheel Of Karma," that show where the person > who has never experienced clear, sustained, 24/7 > witnessing gets to define it, and its relationship > to enlightenment as a whole, for those who have? No, it's not, on several counts. It *is* the show where the contestant demonstrates that he thinks he's a lot more clever than he really is. The correct answer to the question was even right there at the top of the previous post in this exchange all along (now snipped in deference to Akasha, but that was why I had left it all in). Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
Unc: > > > "It" is the seed in a seedless orange, of course. :-) Judy: > > Wrongaroonie. Try again. U: > Oh. I didn't realize it was a Quiz Show. Sorry. > > Is this "Wheel Of Karma," that show where the person > who has never experienced clear, sustained, 24/7 > witnessing gets to define it, and its relationship > to enlightenment as a whole, for those who have? > > I'd watch, but "Jerry Springer" is on the other > channel... :-) Is that the show where rajas throw their thrones at each other? (Don't look at my Rajariness like that your Highness Dude!) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Judy: > > > > > > > > > Rory, has it ever occurred to you to say to > > > > > > > > > yourself, "Gee, this doesn't seem to be working"? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rory: > > > > > > > > *lol* No. I certainly wouldn't see the point in giving > up > > > > > > > > before we have even tried; that doesn't seem like you. > > But > > > > > > > > it is *your* body, and *your* emotions and *your* mind, > > and > > > > > > > > you have every right to choose when and where and with > > whom > > > > > > > > and certainly *whether or not* to inquire into them. I > > > > > > > > think you're the greatest either way.:-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On the other hand, if I *were* saying to myself, "Gee, > > this > > > > > > > doesn't seem to be working," and if there were some pain > > > > > > > associated with the thought, I suppose I would go ahead > > and > > > > > > > breathe and see/feel where in the body that > pain/defeatism > > > > > > > was located, and so on ... :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > Great. You go do that, and let us know what > > > > > > you discover, OK? > > > > > > > > > > And Judy will keep complaining about being in > > > > > ignorance. It's a status quo thang... :-) > > > > > > > > It is the small self, which is *not* Judy, fighting for its > > > > illusory life... > > > > > > (1) The small self *is* Judy. Judy's the > > > illusion. > > > > > > (2) Being in ignorance is *not* what Judy is > > > complaining about, never has been. > > > > > > (3) All three of you--Rory, Barry, and Jim--have > > > completely missed the point I was making to Rory. > > > I really didn't think I was being *that* subtle. > > > > > > Take another look at what I wrote a little earlier > > > in the thread, commenting on Rory's attempt to > > > play therapist: > > > > > > "If I work *really really hard* on this, someday > > > in the future I may come to be able to appreciate > > > the Now." > > > > > > Jim, try thinking about this one above your head, > > > see if you can pick up on one of those effortless > > > answers. > > > > > > If you're still stumped, revisit the original > > > context: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > [to Barry:] > > > > > So I'm sitting there not appreciating the Now, > > > > > and I say to myself, "I'd rather be appreciating > > > > > the Now." > > > > > > > > > > My point is that you've gotten yourself into > > > > > yet another infinite regress when you "prescribe" > > > > > appreciating the Now. > > > > > > > > Some Suggestions on How to Appreciate the Now: > > > > > > > > 1) Pay attention to whatever is in front of us. How are we > > feeling? > > > > If we feel good, the exercise is done. If not, try step 2. > > > > > > "It would be better if I felt good." > > > > > > > 2) If we don't feel completely satisfied, and we wish to clarify > > > > our thinking patterns, > > > > > > "It would be better if I clarified my thinking > > > patterns so I could be completely satisfied." > > > > > > > > > > 3) If we don't feel completely satisfied, and we wish to clarify > > > > our emotional-physiological patterns, > > > > > > "It would be better if I clarified my > > > emotional-physiological patterns so I could be > > > completely satisified." > > > > > > If I work *really really hard* on this, someday > > > in the future I may come to be able to appreciate > > > the Now. > > > > If you would rather not do the Work, that is (apparently) your > > prerogative :-) > > Try again, Rory, you still ain't getting it. *lol* That is (apparently) my prerogative. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send a
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Great. You go do that, and let us know what > > > > > > > > you discover, OK? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And Judy will keep complaining about being in > > > > > > > ignorance. It's a status quo thang... :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > It is the small self, which is *not* Judy, fighting for its > > > > > > illusory life... > > > > > > > > > > (1) The small self *is* Judy. > > > > > > > > And getting smaller with every labored defense... > > > > > > And in contrast, the Unc small self is getting bigger with > > > each new barb? > > > > I haven't dated anyone named barb since I was in the > > TM movement, but as I remember it, she definitely > > made parts of me get bigger. > > An engorged ego ? She actually *did* have a thing for big egos, and was a bit of a starfucker within the TM movement. Probably did Bevan and Hagelin at the same time. :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So I'm sitting there not appreciating the Now, > > > > > > > and I say to myself, "I'd rather be appreciating > > > > > > > the Now." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My point is that you've gotten yourself into > > > > > > > yet another infinite regress when you "prescribe" > > > > > > > appreciating the Now. > > > > > > > > > > > > Some Suggestions on How to Appreciate the Now: > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) Pay attention to whatever is in front of us. How are we > > > > > > feeling? If we feel good, the exercise is done. If not, > try > > > > > > step 2. > > > > > > > > > > "It would be better if I felt good." > > > > > > > > And so how do we feel? Not-good? Is that the same as bad? What > > > > kind of bad? Itchy? Weepy? Stubborn? Guilty? Angry? "Not- good" > is > > > > a good start, but perhaps let's dig a little deeper, taking > our > > > > time, allowing it to breathe. Where in the body would it be, > if > > > > it were in the body? > > > > > > Another very useful technique, with the limitation > > > inherent in any technique. It must actually be > > > practiced, not just read and discarded. > > > > Yes indeedydoo. If we're not appreciating the Now, > > and we think it would be better if we did, we should > > practice this technique so we can get rid of all > > those nasty obstacles sitting there in the way. > > > > > > *lol* I like your laugh. No, it is not to "get rid" of the > obstacles at all; it is to refine our attention sufficiently to > appreciate them and integrate them as aspects of our Wholeness. :-) Yes indeedydoo. If we aren't sufficiently appreciating the obstacles to be able to integrate them as aspects of our Wholeness, and we think it would be better if we did, we should practice this technique to get rid of all the nasty obstacles to that appreciation and integration sitting there in the way. Think "infinite regress," Rory. Think "going around in circles." Ask yourself whether there might be something just a bit peculiar about the concept of "a technique to enable us to appreciate the Now." Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
Rory: > > If you would rather not do the Work, that is (apparently) your > > prerogative :-) Judy: > Try again, Rory, you still ain't getting it. Maybe Rory can have Jim process it in the Cray sitting on top of his head. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 > > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is constant foreground PC a sufficnet criteria > > > > > > > > > > for CC? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That's how MMY defines it (if it's permanent); > > > > > > > > > "witnessing" can apply to temporary experiences > > > > > > > > > (CC being 24-hour permanent witnessing). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's a "symbol," but for a very specific > > > > > > > > > experience. I don't see that your four- > > > > > > > > > letter job is any better, as long as we > > > > > > > > > know what the definition of "CC" is. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That's all I'm saying. I agree with you > > > > > > > > > that a lot of the other terms are problematic. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But what is your definition of CC? (but define it in a > > non- > > > > > > > > seeking way :) ) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In my understanding of how MMY uses the term, CC > > > > > > > is permanent, 24-hour-a-day foreground PC. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you now get universal consensus on this list for > that > > > > > > > > definition? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If I'm representing MMY's definition correctly, > > > > > > > I ought to be able to, at least from those who > > > > > > > recall MMY's teaching. Corrections to my > > > > > > > understanding of how MMY uses the term are > > > > > > > welcome. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm only suggesting it because it's a term we're > > > > > > > all familiar with, and it's not a complicated > > > > > > > definition. > > > > > > > > > > > > Downright simplistic, in fact. :-) > > > > > > > > > > Suitable for beginners, true. > > > > > > > > Suitable for experts, too...just incomplete, as > > > > any definition of the undefinable would be. It's > > > > sorta like defining an orange as a round fruit. > > > > There's more to it than that... > > > > > > And what is the "it" you believe the definition in > > > question refers to for which I'm proposing the term > > > "CC" be used as shorthand? > > > > "It" is the seed in a seedless orange, of course. :-) > > Wrongaroonie. Try again. Oh. I didn't realize it was a Quiz Show. Sorry. Is this "Wheel Of Karma," that show where the person who has never experienced clear, sustained, 24/7 witnessing gets to define it, and its relationship to enlightenment as a whole, for those who have? I'd watch, but "Jerry Springer" is on the other channel... :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > (1) The small self *is* Judy. Judy's the > illusion. > > (2) Being in ignorance is *not* what Judy is > complaining about, never has been. > > (3) All three of you--Rory, Barry, and Jim--have > completely missed the point I was making to Rory. > I really didn't think I was being *that* subtle. > > Take another look at what I wrote a little earlier > in the thread, commenting on Rory's attempt to > play therapist: > > "If I work *really really hard* on this, someday > in the future I may come to be able to appreciate > the Now." *lol* Yes, I appreciate(d) your intellectual attempt to turn this into an infinitely regressing paradox, but didn't really think it was worth commenting on :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > No, it is not to "get rid" of the obstacles > at all; it is to refine our attention sufficiently to appreciate > them and integrate them as aspects of our Wholeness. :-) An important distinction that is often lost on those who have spent decades immersed in the TM metaphors of "stress" and "knots of stress" and "unstressing," none of which actually exist, or were ever barriers to the realization of enlightenment. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So I'm sitting there not appreciating the Now, > > > > > > > and I say to myself, "I'd rather be appreciating > > > > > > > the Now." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My point is that you've gotten yourself into > > > > > > > yet another infinite regress when you "prescribe" > > > > > > > appreciating the Now. > > > > > > > > > > > > Some Suggestions on How to Appreciate the Now: > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) Pay attention to whatever is in front of us. How are we > > > > > > feeling? If we feel good, the exercise is done. If not, > try > > > > > > step 2. > > > > > > > > > > "It would be better if I felt good." > > > > > > > > And so how do we feel? Not-good? Is that the same as bad? What > > > > kind of bad? Itchy? Weepy? Stubborn? Guilty? Angry? "Not- good" > is > > > > a good start, but perhaps let's dig a little deeper, taking > our > > > > time, allowing it to breathe. Where in the body would it be, > if > > > > it were in the body? > > > > > > Another very useful technique, with the limitation > > > inherent in any technique. It must actually be > > > practiced, not just read and discarded. > > > > Yes indeedydoo. If we're not appreciating the Now, > > and we think it would be better if we did, we should > > practice this technique so we can get rid of all > > those nasty obstacles sitting there in the way. > > > > > > *lol* I like your laugh. No, it is not to "get rid" of the obstacles > at all; it is to refine our attention sufficiently to appreciate > them and integrate them as aspects of our Wholeness. :-) exactly; I never met an obstacle that wasn't me. And I can't get rid of myself. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Judy: > > > > > > > > Rory, has it ever occurred to you to say to > > > > > > > > yourself, "Gee, this doesn't seem to be working"? > > > > > > > > > > > > Rory: > > > > > > > *lol* No. I certainly wouldn't see the point in giving up > > > > > > > before we have even tried; that doesn't seem like you. > But > > > > > > > it is *your* body, and *your* emotions and *your* mind, > and > > > > > > > you have every right to choose when and where and with > whom > > > > > > > and certainly *whether or not* to inquire into them. I > > > > > > > think you're the greatest either way.:-) > > > > > > > > > > > > On the other hand, if I *were* saying to myself, "Gee, > this > > > > > > doesn't seem to be working," and if there were some pain > > > > > > associated with the thought, I suppose I would go ahead > and > > > > > > breathe and see/feel where in the body that pain/defeatism > > > > > > was located, and so on ... :-) > > > > > > > > > > Great. You go do that, and let us know what > > > > > you discover, OK? > > > > > > > > And Judy will keep complaining about being in > > > > ignorance. It's a status quo thang... :-) > > > > > > It is the small self, which is *not* Judy, fighting for its > > > illusory life... > > > > (1) The small self *is* Judy. Judy's the > > illusion. > > > > (2) Being in ignorance is *not* what Judy is > > complaining about, never has been. > > > > (3) All three of you--Rory, Barry, and Jim--have > > completely missed the point I was making to Rory. > > I really didn't think I was being *that* subtle. > > > > Take another look at what I wrote a little earlier > > in the thread, commenting on Rory's attempt to > > play therapist: > > > > "If I work *really really hard* on this, someday > > in the future I may come to be able to appreciate > > the Now." > > > > Jim, try thinking about this one above your head, > > see if you can pick up on one of those effortless > > answers. > > > > If you're still stumped, revisit the original > > context: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > [to Barry:] > > > > So I'm sitting there not appreciating the Now, > > > > and I say to myself, "I'd rather be appreciating > > > > the Now." > > > > > > > > My point is that you've gotten yourself into > > > > yet another infinite regress when you "prescribe" > > > > appreciating the Now. > > > > > > Some Suggestions on How to Appreciate the Now: > > > > > > 1) Pay attention to whatever is in front of us. How are we > feeling? > > > If we feel good, the exercise is done. If not, try step 2. > > > > "It would be better if I felt good." > > > > > 2) If we don't feel completely satisfied, and we wish to clarify > > > our thinking patterns, > > > > "It would be better if I clarified my thinking > > patterns so I could be completely satisfied." > > > > > > > 3) If we don't feel completely satisfied, and we wish to clarify > > > our emotional-physiological patterns, > > > > "It would be better if I clarified my > > emotional-physiological patterns so I could be > > completely satisified." > > > > If I work *really really hard* on this, someday > > in the future I may come to be able to appreciate > > the Now. > > If you would rather not do the Work, that is (apparently) your > prerogative :-) Try again, Rory, you still ain't getting it. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > Great. You go do that, and let us know what > > > > > > > you discover, OK? > > > > > > > > > > > > And Judy will keep complaining about being in > > > > > > ignorance. It's a status quo thang... :-) > > > > > > > > > > It is the small self, which is *not* Judy, fighting for its > > > > > illusory life... > > > > > > > > (1) The small self *is* Judy. > > > > > > And getting smaller with every labored defense... > > > > And in contrast, the Unc small self is getting bigger with > > each new barb? > > I haven't dated anyone named barb since I was in the > TM movement, but as I remember it, she definitely > made parts of me get bigger. An engorged ego ? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is constant foreground PC a sufficnet criteria > > > > > > > > > for CC? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That's how MMY defines it (if it's permanent); > > > > > > > > "witnessing" can apply to temporary experiences > > > > > > > > (CC being 24-hour permanent witnessing). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's a "symbol," but for a very specific > > > > > > > > experience. I don't see that your four- > > > > > > > > letter job is any better, as long as we > > > > > > > > know what the definition of "CC" is. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That's all I'm saying. I agree with you > > > > > > > > that a lot of the other terms are problematic. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But what is your definition of CC? (but define it in a > non- > > > > > > > seeking way :) ) > > > > > > > > > > > > In my understanding of how MMY uses the term, CC > > > > > > is permanent, 24-hour-a-day foreground PC. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you now get universal consensus on this list for that > > > > > > > definition? > > > > > > > > > > > > If I'm representing MMY's definition correctly, > > > > > > I ought to be able to, at least from those who > > > > > > recall MMY's teaching. Corrections to my > > > > > > understanding of how MMY uses the term are > > > > > > welcome. > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm only suggesting it because it's a term we're > > > > > > all familiar with, and it's not a complicated > > > > > > definition. > > > > > > > > > > Downright simplistic, in fact. :-) > > > > > > > > Suitable for beginners, true. > > > > > > Suitable for experts, too...just incomplete, as > > > any definition of the undefinable would be. It's > > > sorta like defining an orange as a round fruit. > > > There's more to it than that... > > > > And what is the "it" you believe the definition in > > question refers to for which I'm proposing the term > > "CC" be used as shorthand? > > "It" is the seed in a seedless orange, of course. :-) Wrongaroonie. Try again. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So I'm sitting there not appreciating the Now, > > > > > > and I say to myself, "I'd rather be appreciating > > > > > > the Now." > > > > > > > > > > > > My point is that you've gotten yourself into > > > > > > yet another infinite regress when you "prescribe" > > > > > > appreciating the Now. > > > > > > > > > > Some Suggestions on How to Appreciate the Now: > > > > > > > > > > 1) Pay attention to whatever is in front of us. How are we > > > > > feeling? If we feel good, the exercise is done. If not, try > > > > > step 2. > > > > > > > > "It would be better if I felt good." > > > > > > And so how do we feel? Not-good? Is that the same as bad? What > > > kind of bad? Itchy? Weepy? Stubborn? Guilty? Angry? "Not-good" is > > > a good start, but perhaps let's dig a little deeper, taking our > > > time, allowing it to breathe. Where in the body would it be, if > > > it were in the body? > > > > Another very useful technique, with the limitation > > inherent in any technique. It must actually be > > practiced, not just read and discarded. > > Yes indeedydoo. If we're not appreciating the Now, > and we think it would be better if we did, we should > practice this technique so we can get rid of all > those nasty obstacles sitting there in the way. > > *lol* I like your laugh. No, it is not to "get rid" of the obstacles at all; it is to refine our attention sufficiently to appreciate them and integrate them as aspects of our Wholeness. :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > Judy: > > > > > > > Rory, has it ever occurred to you to say to > > > > > > > yourself, "Gee, this doesn't seem to be working"? > > > > > > > > > > Rory: > > > > > > *lol* No. I certainly wouldn't see the point in giving up > > > > > > before we have even tried; that doesn't seem like you. But > > > > > > it is *your* body, and *your* emotions and *your* mind, and > > > > > > you have every right to choose when and where and with whom > > > > > > and certainly *whether or not* to inquire into them. I > > > > > > think you're the greatest either way.:-) > > > > > > > > > > On the other hand, if I *were* saying to myself, "Gee, this > > > > > doesn't seem to be working," and if there were some pain > > > > > associated with the thought, I suppose I would go ahead and > > > > > breathe and see/feel where in the body that pain/defeatism > > > > > was located, and so on ... :-) > > > > > > > > Great. You go do that, and let us know what > > > > you discover, OK? > > > > > > And Judy will keep complaining about being in > > > ignorance. It's a status quo thang... :-) > > > > It is the small self, which is *not* Judy, fighting for its > > illusory life... > > (1) The small self *is* Judy. Judy's the > illusion. > > (2) Being in ignorance is *not* what Judy is > complaining about, never has been. > > (3) All three of you--Rory, Barry, and Jim--have > completely missed the point I was making to Rory. > I really didn't think I was being *that* subtle. > > Take another look at what I wrote a little earlier > in the thread, commenting on Rory's attempt to > play therapist: > > "If I work *really really hard* on this, someday > in the future I may come to be able to appreciate > the Now." > > Jim, try thinking about this one above your head, > see if you can pick up on one of those effortless > answers. > > If you're still stumped, revisit the original > context: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > [to Barry:] > > > So I'm sitting there not appreciating the Now, > > > and I say to myself, "I'd rather be appreciating > > > the Now." > > > > > > My point is that you've gotten yourself into > > > yet another infinite regress when you "prescribe" > > > appreciating the Now. > > > > Some Suggestions on How to Appreciate the Now: > > > > 1) Pay attention to whatever is in front of us. How are we feeling? > > If we feel good, the exercise is done. If not, try step 2. > > "It would be better if I felt good." > > > 2) If we don't feel completely satisfied, and we wish to clarify > > our thinking patterns, > > "It would be better if I clarified my thinking > patterns so I could be completely satisfied." > > > > 3) If we don't feel completely satisfied, and we wish to clarify > > our emotional-physiological patterns, > > "It would be better if I clarified my > emotional-physiological patterns so I could be > completely satisified." > > If I work *really really hard* on this, someday > in the future I may come to be able to appreciate > the Now. If you would rather not do the Work, that is (apparently) your prerogative :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Great. You go do that, and let us know what > > > > > > you discover, OK? > > > > > > > > > > And Judy will keep complaining about being in > > > > > ignorance. It's a status quo thang... :-) > > > > > > > > It is the small self, which is *not* Judy, fighting for its > > > > illusory life... > > > > > > (1) The small self *is* Judy. > > > > And getting smaller with every labored defense... > > And in contrast, the Unc small self is getting bigger with > each new barb? I haven't dated anyone named barb since I was in the TM movement, but as I remember it, she definitely made parts of me get bigger. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > You've been trying now for quite a string of posts. > > > Do you think you've gotten anywhere? > > > > *lol* Yes, I have done the work I needed to do. > > I meant with me. So did I. :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
> > > > > Great. You go do that, and let us know what > > > > > you discover, OK? > > > > > > > > And Judy will keep complaining about being in > > > > ignorance. It's a status quo thang... :-) > > > > > > It is the small self, which is *not* Judy, fighting for its > > > illusory life... > > > > (1) The small self *is* Judy. > > And getting smaller with every labored defense... And in contrast, the Unc small self is getting bigger with each new barb? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is constant foreground PC a sufficnet criteria > > > > > > > > for CC? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That's how MMY defines it (if it's permanent); > > > > > > > "witnessing" can apply to temporary experiences > > > > > > > (CC being 24-hour permanent witnessing). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's a "symbol," but for a very specific > > > > > > > experience. I don't see that your four- > > > > > > > letter job is any better, as long as we > > > > > > > know what the definition of "CC" is. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That's all I'm saying. I agree with you > > > > > > > that a lot of the other terms are problematic. > > > > > > > > > > > > Good. > > > > > > > > > > > > But what is your definition of CC? (but define it in a non- > > > > > > seeking way :) ) > > > > > > > > > > In my understanding of how MMY uses the term, CC > > > > > is permanent, 24-hour-a-day foreground PC. > > > > > > > > > > > Can you now get universal consensus on this list for that > > > > > > definition? > > > > > > > > > > If I'm representing MMY's definition correctly, > > > > > I ought to be able to, at least from those who > > > > > recall MMY's teaching. Corrections to my > > > > > understanding of how MMY uses the term are > > > > > welcome. > > > > > > > > > > I'm only suggesting it because it's a term we're > > > > > all familiar with, and it's not a complicated > > > > > definition. > > > > > > > > Downright simplistic, in fact. :-) > > > > > > Suitable for beginners, true. > > > > Suitable for experts, too...just incomplete, as > > any definition of the undefinable would be. It's > > sorta like defining an orange as a round fruit. > > There's more to it than that... > > And what is the "it" you believe the definition in > question refers to for which I'm proposing the term > "CC" be used as shorthand? "It" is the seed in a seedless orange, of course. :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > Judy: > > > > > > > Rory, has it ever occurred to you to say to > > > > > > > yourself, "Gee, this doesn't seem to be working"? > > > > > > > > > > Rory: > > > > > > *lol* No. I certainly wouldn't see the point in giving up > > > > > > before we have even tried; that doesn't seem like you. But > > > > > > it is *your* body, and *your* emotions and *your* mind, and > > > > > > you have every right to choose when and where and with whom > > > > > > and certainly *whether or not* to inquire into them. I > > > > > > think you're the greatest either way.:-) > > > > > > > > > > On the other hand, if I *were* saying to myself, "Gee, this > > > > > doesn't seem to be working," and if there were some pain > > > > > associated with the thought, I suppose I would go ahead and > > > > > breathe and see/feel where in the body that pain/defeatism > > > > > was located, and so on ... :-) > > > > > > > > Great. You go do that, and let us know what > > > > you discover, OK? > > > > > > And Judy will keep complaining about being in > > > ignorance. It's a status quo thang... :-) > > > > It is the small self, which is *not* Judy, fighting for its > > illusory life... > > (1) The small self *is* Judy. And getting smaller with every labored defense... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So I'm sitting there not appreciating the Now, > > > > > and I say to myself, "I'd rather be appreciating > > > > > the Now." > > > > > > > > > > My point is that you've gotten yourself into > > > > > yet another infinite regress when you "prescribe" > > > > > appreciating the Now. > > > > > > > > Some Suggestions on How to Appreciate the Now: > > > > > > > > 1) Pay attention to whatever is in front of us. How are we > > > > feeling? If we feel good, the exercise is done. If not, try > > > > step 2. > > > > > > "It would be better if I felt good." > > > > And so how do we feel? Not-good? Is that the same as bad? What > > kind of bad? Itchy? Weepy? Stubborn? Guilty? Angry? "Not-good" is > > a good start, but perhaps let's dig a little deeper, taking our > > time, allowing it to breathe. Where in the body would it be, if > > it were in the body? > > Another very useful technique, with the limitation > inherent in any technique. It must actually be > practiced, not just read and discarded. Yes indeedydoo. If we're not appreciating the Now, and we think it would be better if we did, we should practice this technique so we can get rid of all those nasty obstacles sitting there in the way. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is constant foreground PC a sufficnet criteria > > > > > > > for CC? > > > > > > > > > > > > That's how MMY defines it (if it's permanent); > > > > > > "witnessing" can apply to temporary experiences > > > > > > (CC being 24-hour permanent witnessing). > > > > > > > > > > > > It's a "symbol," but for a very specific > > > > > > experience. I don't see that your four- > > > > > > letter job is any better, as long as we > > > > > > know what the definition of "CC" is. > > > > > > > > > > > > That's all I'm saying. I agree with you > > > > > > that a lot of the other terms are problematic. > > > > > > > > > > Good. > > > > > > > > > > But what is your definition of CC? (but define it in a non- > > > > > seeking way :) ) > > > > > > > > In my understanding of how MMY uses the term, CC > > > > is permanent, 24-hour-a-day foreground PC. > > > > > > > > > Can you now get universal consensus on this list for that > > > > > definition? > > > > > > > > If I'm representing MMY's definition correctly, > > > > I ought to be able to, at least from those who > > > > recall MMY's teaching. Corrections to my > > > > understanding of how MMY uses the term are > > > > welcome. > > > > > > > > I'm only suggesting it because it's a term we're > > > > all familiar with, and it's not a complicated > > > > definition. > > > > > > Downright simplistic, in fact. :-) > > > > Suitable for beginners, true. > > Suitable for experts, too...just incomplete, as > any definition of the undefinable would be. It's > sorta like defining an orange as a round fruit. > There's more to it than that... And what is the "it" you believe the definition in question refers to for which I'm proposing the term "CC" be used as shorthand? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > Judy: > > > > > > Rory, has it ever occurred to you to say to > > > > > > yourself, "Gee, this doesn't seem to be working"? > > > > > > > > Rory: > > > > > *lol* No. I certainly wouldn't see the point in giving up > > > > > before we have even tried; that doesn't seem like you. But > > > > > it is *your* body, and *your* emotions and *your* mind, and > > > > > you have every right to choose when and where and with whom > > > > > and certainly *whether or not* to inquire into them. I > > > > > think you're the greatest either way.:-) > > > > > > > > On the other hand, if I *were* saying to myself, "Gee, this > > > > doesn't seem to be working," and if there were some pain > > > > associated with the thought, I suppose I would go ahead and > > > > breathe and see/feel where in the body that pain/defeatism > > > > was located, and so on ... :-) > > > > > > Great. You go do that, and let us know what > > > you discover, OK? > > > > And Judy will keep complaining about being in > > ignorance. It's a status quo thang... :-) > > It is the small self, which is *not* Judy, fighting for its > illusory life... (1) The small self *is* Judy. Judy's the illusion. (2) Being in ignorance is *not* what Judy is complaining about, never has been. (3) All three of you--Rory, Barry, and Jim--have completely missed the point I was making to Rory. I really didn't think I was being *that* subtle. Take another look at what I wrote a little earlier in the thread, commenting on Rory's attempt to play therapist: "If I work *really really hard* on this, someday in the future I may come to be able to appreciate the Now." Jim, try thinking about this one above your head, see if you can pick up on one of those effortless answers. If you're still stumped, revisit the original context: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > [to Barry:] > > So I'm sitting there not appreciating the Now, > > and I say to myself, "I'd rather be appreciating > > the Now." > > > > My point is that you've gotten yourself into > > yet another infinite regress when you "prescribe" > > appreciating the Now. > > Some Suggestions on How to Appreciate the Now: > > 1) Pay attention to whatever is in front of us. How are we feeling? > If we feel good, the exercise is done. If not, try step 2. "It would be better if I felt good." > 2) If we don't feel completely satisfied, and we wish to clarify > our thinking patterns, "It would be better if I clarified my thinking patterns so I could be completely satisfied." > 3) If we don't feel completely satisfied, and we wish to clarify > our emotional-physiological patterns, "It would be better if I clarified my emotional-physiological patterns so I could be completely satisified." If I work *really really hard* on this, someday in the future I may come to be able to appreciate the Now. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
> > U: > > > And when this happens, in this dreamed-of future, > > > wave to the pigs as they fly by... :-) A: > > The ones emerging from your butt? U:> > Mixed metaphor. It's monkeys that fly out of > one's butt, and pigs that fly. :-) All possibilities dude. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > Judy: > > > > > Rory, has it ever occurred to you to say to > > > > > yourself, "Gee, this doesn't seem to be working"? > > > > > > Rory: > > > > *lol* No. I certainly wouldn't see the point in giving up > before > > > > we have even tried; that doesn't seem like you. But it is > *your* > > > > body, and *your* emotions and *your* mind, and you have every > > > > right to choose when and where and with whom and certainly > > > > *whether or not* to inquire into them. I think you're the > greatest > > > > either way.:-) > > > > > > On the other hand, if I *were* saying to myself, "Gee, this > doesn't > > > seem to be working," and if there were some pain associated with > the > > > thought, I suppose I would go ahead and breathe and see/feel > where > > > in the body that pain/defeatism was located, and so on ... :-) > > > > Great. You go do that, and let us know what > > you discover, OK? > > And Judy will keep complaining about being in > ignorance. It's a status quo thang... :-) It is the small self, which is *not* Judy, fighting for its illusory life... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > Beautiful. A few comments interleaved below. > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > Akasha: > > > > > > > Does it strike anyone else as funny, even absurd, that > the > > > > whole paradigm about enlightenment on this list is > > > > > > > dichotomous, digital, either "on or off"? > > > > > > > > > > Unc: > > > > > > YES! That's exactly the issue. > > > > > > > > > > > I realized that some time back, during the discussions > > > > > > about 'appreciation.' Some comment by, I think, Tom > > > > > > made me completely abandon my old paradigm and come up > > > > > > with a new one that more accurately described my > > > > > > subjective experience. > > > > > > > > > > A: > > > > > > > Pure consciousness begins from the first mediation. If > not > > > > > > > before. > > > > > > > > > > U: > > > > > > Before. There has never been a moment in my life when > > > > > > I was not enlightened. > > > > > > > > > > That's the one point on all of this where I think we differ. > > > > > First, I see no value in labels such as enlightenment. > > > > > > > > Me, either. I was just using the terminology already > > > > being used in these discussions. > > > > > > > > > It can create > > > > > distinctions, it can creates longing for "titles", it can > > create > > > > > false egos, it can creates scams, etc. And the upside is? > > > > > > > > Giving some people who are anxious for the "title" > > > > something to do with their time? :-) > > > > > > > > > > I just never appreciated it > > > > > > until a three-week period in Fiuggi, when the 24/7 wit- > > > > > > nessing made it impossible not to appreciate. Since > > > > > > then, that witnessing has slipped from foreground to > > > > > > background many times, but what I realized during the > > > > > > 'appreciation' discussion is that it has always been > > > > > > present. What I realized when I first appreciated it > > > > > > was that it had *always* been present. > > > > > > > Speaking of which, perhaps someone can comment on an experience > I've > > had lately: > > > > I've always had a well developed intellect, can think quickly. > > However, lately my intellect has literally been operating on a > > higher level. I say that because my previous experience of mental > > concentration in order to think something through always felt like > > it was inside my brain, and it took a lot of effort. > > > > My recent experience is that I am thinking *above* my brain. There > > seems to be a location about two hands above my head, wherein if I > > focus my thinking there, my intellect seems to achieve effortless > > answers to anything. > > > > Just out of curiosity, does anyone know what this is, or have heard > > of it before? Also feels like I'm wearing a crown, or a halo or > > something. Not a big deal, just curious. Thanks- > > > Sounds like classic disociation... Yes, if you haven't experienced it, it does, huh? When I was younger I used to get spaced out by too much meditation and experience things that I couldn't integrate. This, by contrast, is something I can experience, or not, at will. Its usefulness is 100% practical and fully grounded. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just BELIEVE Peter, and You CAN Fly!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Judy: > > > > Rory, has it ever occurred to you to say to > > > > yourself, "Gee, this doesn't seem to be working"? > > > > Rory: > > > *lol* No. I certainly wouldn't see the point in giving up before > > > we have even tried; that doesn't seem like you. But it is *your* > > > body, and *your* emotions and *your* mind, and you have every > > > right to choose when and where and with whom and certainly > > > *whether or not* to inquire into them. I think you're the greatest > > > either way.:-) > > > > On the other hand, if I *were* saying to myself, "Gee, this doesn't > > seem to be working," and if there were some pain associated with the > > thought, I suppose I would go ahead and breathe and see/feel where > > in the body that pain/defeatism was located, and so on ... :-) > > Great. You go do that, and let us know what > you discover, OK? And Judy will keep complaining about being in ignorance. It's a status quo thang... :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
