--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote:
As I pointed out earlier, Guilio Tononi's phi formula, if taken to its
logical conclusion, supports Hagelin's assertion about the unified field and
consciousness.
Good, I'll fly down the shops later. That ought to save on
What does one have to do with the other? At best, IF someone ever demonstrates
floating, you could evoke this as the direction for research to go in to
explain an already observed phenomenon, but you can't use the conclusion that
the unified field fits Tononi's definition (maybe) of a conscious
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote:
What does one have to do with the other?
Because John Hagelin claims we can think at the level of the
unified field and influence the world at the classical level
including things like levitation, invisibility, world peace,
It doesn't matter what John thinks follows automatically from consciousness =
unified field.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote:
What does one have to do with the other?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote:
It doesn't matter what John thinks follows automatically from consciousness =
unified field.
Shhh! You'll spoil the fundraising
L
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@
wrote:
To a neuroscientist the term unified field refers to the
image
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, PaliGap compost1uk@... wrote:
-- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@ wrote:
Well now you have. It refers of course to the way the brain
unifies sense data into a coherent picture of the world as
a theatre that we are
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@ wrote:
It was a serious response.
That's too bad.
Not really.
It's kind of the $64,000 question, after all.
For me, the serious question
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@
wrote:
It was a serious response.
That's too bad.
Not really.
As I pointed out earlier, Guilio Tononi's phi formula, if taken to its
logical conclusion, supports Hagelin's assertion about the unified field and
consciousness.
Tononi doesn't like it when people do that, but he has to add in all sorts of
exceptions to the formula to invalidate the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, PaliGap compost1uk@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, PaliGap compost1uk@ wrote:
-- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote:
Actually, Hagelin was pretty big back when he was still publishing.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@... wrote:
[...]
And Hagelin's point is that the behavior of the QM unified field and the
behavior ascribed to consciousness in MMY's interpretation (at least) of
the vedic tradition are identical in myriad ways. In fact,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@ wrote:
[...]
And Hagelin's point is that the behavior of the QM unified field and the
behavior ascribed to consciousness in MMY's interpretation (at
-- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@... wrote:
Well now you have. It refers of course to the way the brain
unifies sense data into a coherent picture of the world as
a theatre that we are witnessing but when you look inside the
brain, no such theatre exists.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, PaliGap compost1uk@... wrote:
-- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@ wrote:
Well now you have. It refers of course to the way the brain
unifies sense data into a coherent picture of the world as
a theatre that we are
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, PaliGap compost1uk@ wrote:
-- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@ wrote:
Well now you have. It refers of course to the way the brain
Russel Brand credits TM with helping him get out of a hardcore drug abuser
lifestyle. He was no doubt a brilliant comedian before TM, but he says that TM
helped him survive a very rough time in his life. Youtube has a BBC special on
drug abuse that he hosted. He was pretty bad off at his worst.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote:
Russel Brand credits TM with helping him get out of a hardcore drug abuser
lifestyle. He was no doubt a brilliant comedian before TM, but he says that
TM helped him survive a very rough time in his life. Youtube has a BBC
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote:
Russel Brand credits TM with helping him get out of a hardcore drug abuser
lifestyle. He was no doubt a brilliant comedian before TM, but he
I actually enjoyed that interview, despite various wince-worthy remarks by John.
L
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote:
Russel Brand credits TM with helping him get out of a
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote:
I actually enjoyed that interview, despite various wince-worthy remarks by
John.
Not to mention the wince-worthy physics.
L
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@ wrote:
--- In
Which parts of the physics were wince-worthy? Claiming that the Unified Field
fulfills Einstein's dream? It certainly does, valid or not.
And of course, no scientific theory can ever be said to be completely validated
nor completely discredited anyway.
L
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote:
Which parts of the physics were wince-worthy? Claiming that the Unified Field
fulfills Einstein's dream? It certainly does, valid or not.
Sigh. Claiming that you've found the unified field is a joke.
Claiming that it is
Actually, Hagelin was pretty big back when he was still publishing. Yyou
realize that the Director of Research at CERN asked him to tweak Flipped SU(5)
originally, right?
And consciousness being the unified field is kinda a tautology if you look at
how Tononi defines phi in his Integrated
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote:
Actually, Hagelin was pretty big back when he was still publishing. Yyou
realize that the Director of Research at CERN asked him to tweak Flipped
SU(5) originally, right?
So, how does that make him world renowned?
I
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote:
Actually, Hagelin was pretty big back when he was still publishing. Yyou
realize that the Director of Research at CERN asked him to tweak
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote:
Actually, Hagelin was pretty big back when he was still publishing. Yyou
realize that the Director of Research at CERN asked him to tweak
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