[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-04 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: The third eye is the portal to infinity, that's why it's important! Unfolding of the chakras unfold powers of morality, self control, chastity,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-04 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course, I assume that intentional transcending is actually a different physical state than spontaneous transcending, and that the former is an illusion, while the latter is based on a simple physical change in how

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-04 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sahadeva=coccyx center=restraint (muladhara chakra) sahadeva (%{saha4-}) mfn. *with the gods*[emph. added] MBh. BhP. ; m. N. of a R2shi (with the patr. %{vArSAgira}) RV. i , 107 ; of a man (with the patr. %{zAJjaya})

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-04 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: Of course, I assume that intentional transcending is actually a different physical state than spontaneous transcending, and that the former is an

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-04 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 no_reply@ wrote: Sahadeva=coccyx center=restraint (muladhara chakra) sahadeva (%{saha4-}) mfn. *with the gods*[emph. added] MBh. BhP. ; m. N. of a R2shi (with

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-04 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: Of course, I assume that intentional transcending is actually a different physical

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-04 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course, the idea that the Pandavas represen 5 virtues ala Raja Yoga is impossible. They have to represent 5 chakras even though Chakra is never mentioned in the Gita or the Yoga Sutras Well, actually it is

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-04 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And according to Taimni, hRraya (heart) in III 35 refers to anaahata-cakra (an-aahata): Bhoja's comment on that suutra: hRdayaM shariirasya pradesha-visheSas tasminn adhomukha-svalpa- puNDariikaabhyantare

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-04 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: Of course, I

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-04 Thread Bhairitu
sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TurquoiseB wrote: Or perhaps because chakras are grafted on after the vedic stuff he DOES consider important? Maharishi mentions marmas, and not chakras.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-04 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: Of course, I

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-04 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: And according to Taimni, hRraya (heart) in III 35 refers to anaahata-cakra (an-aahata): Bhoja's comment on that suutra: hRdayaM

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-04 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: Of course, the idea that the Pandavas represen 5 virtues ala Raja Yoga is impossible. They have to represent 5 chakras even though Chakra is

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-04 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: TurquoiseB wrote: Or perhaps because chakras are grafted on after the vedic stuff he DOES consider

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-03 Thread Robert Gimbel
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel babajii_99@ wrote: (snip) I take that back. The mention of chakra appears to be descriptive rather than prescriptive (to use Judy's phrase), and there is

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-03 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I stand corrected. He appears to refer to brahmi shakti as the cosmic creative intelligence aka Mother Divine. http://is1.mum.edu/vedicreserve/vedant.htm Rk Veda 1.158.6 Translation: For those () established in

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-03 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 no_reply@ wrote: remember what Christ said, no man cometh unto the Father (Brahman) but thru meie. thur the all seeing 'third' eye. Yep, I'm sure that is what

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-03 Thread TurquoiseB
Or perhaps because chakras are grafted on after the vedic stuff he DOES consider important? Maharishi mentions marmas, and not chakras. In all fairness to MMY, I don't think he wanted to open a pandora's box with this more esoteric stuff, who knows, I may not be a meditator now if

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-03 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or perhaps because chakras are grafted on after the vedic stuff he DOES consider important? Maharishi mentions marmas, and not chakras. In all fairness to MMY, I don't think he wanted to open a pandora's

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-03 Thread Paul Mason
When I spent some time with Brahmachari Sattyanand he gave me an advanced technique which involves paying attention to the mantra in a particular location. Being in India, with an Indian, in an Indian ashram, I asked him if he meant in the vicinity of the soso chakra, but he soon made it very

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-03 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: Yup, he secularized a lot of the stuff. For instance, creative intelligence for shakti. I don't think he uses creative intelligence as a translation

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-03 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or perhaps because chakras are grafted on after the vedic stuff he DOES consider important? Maharishi mentions marmas, and not chakras. In all fairness to MMY, I don't think he wanted to open a pandora's

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-03 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I spent some time with Brahmachari Sattyanand he gave me an advanced technique which involves paying attention to the mantra in a particular location. Being in India, with an Indian, in an Indian ashram, I asked

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-03 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: Yup, he secularized a lot of the stuff. For instance, creative intelligence for

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-03 Thread Ingegerd
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Or perhaps because chakras are grafted on after the vedic stuff he DOES consider important? Maharishi mentions marmas, and not chakras. In the

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2006-09-03 Thread Peter
--- sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: Yup, he secularized a lot of the stuff.

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2006-09-03 Thread Peter
--- sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I spent some time with Brahmachari Sattyanand he gave me an advanced technique which involves paying attention to the mantra in a particular location. Being in

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-03 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-03 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason premanandpaul@ wrote: When I spent some time with Brahmachari Sattyanand he gave me an advanced technique which

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-03 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I spent some time with Brahmachari Sattyanand he gave me an advanced technique which involves paying attention to the mantra in a particular location. Me, too. Being in India, with an Indian, in an Indian

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-03 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason premanandpaul@ wrote: When I spent some time with Brahmachari Sattyanand he gave me an advanced technique which involves paying attention to the mantra in a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-03 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip [I quoted from Wikipedia:] In Hinduism and in some related Asian cultures, a chakra is thought to be a nexus of metaphysical and/or biophysical energy residing in the human body MMY calls these marmas and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-03 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yup, he secularized a lot of the stuff. For instance, creative intelligence for shakti. I think you hit the nail on the head, MMY simplified everything and made it more appealing to a world wide audience..hence you

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-03 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Haven't any of you guys considered the obvious? He doesn't speak about chakras (and thousands of other spiritual subjects) because he doesn't know anything about them. Ha, haI enjoyed this and your posts below, I

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-03 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Before anyone freaks out and considers this anti-TM, it's not. snip If you think I'm wrong about this, try to remember when he *has* talked about other spir- itual traditions, like the times he's conveyed

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-03 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip Before anyone freaks out and considers this anti-TM, it's not. snip Why, *of course* it's not anti-TM (or anti-MMY). How could anybody think

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-03 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip Before anyone freaks out and considers this anti-TM, it's not. snip

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-03 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip What the hell is this third eye and why do you think it is important? The third eye is the portal to infinity, that's why it's important! Unfolding of the chakras unfold powers of morality, self control, chastity,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-03 Thread Bhairitu
TurquoiseB wrote: Or perhaps because chakras are grafted on after the vedic stuff he DOES consider important? Maharishi mentions marmas, and not chakras. In all fairness to MMY, I don't think he wanted to open a pandora's box with this more esoteric stuff, who knows, I

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-03 Thread new . morning
MMY calls these marmas and thinks there are about 108 of them IIRC. Of these 3 are most important. 107 as I recall from working with an indian who trained for many years in the tradition that maintains the knowledge of marmas in southern India. Danur Veda. And one hidden one. (thus 108)

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-03 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)? on 9/3/06 2:19 PM, Bhairitu at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Haven't any of you guys considered the obvious? He doesn't speak about chakras (and thousands of other spiritual subjects) because he

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-03 Thread Peter
--- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 9/3/06 2:19 PM, Bhairitu at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Haven't any of you guys considered the obvious? He doesn't speak about chakras (and thousands of other spiritual subjects) because he doesn't know anything about them. If

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-03 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: --- sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason premanandpaul@ wrote: When I spent some time with

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-03 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason premanandpaul@ wrote: When I spent some time with Brahmachari Sattyanand he gave me an advanced technique which

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-03 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason premanandpaul@ wrote: When I spent some time with Brahmachari Sattyanand he gave me an advanced

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-03 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip Before anyone freaks out and considers this anti-TM, it's not. snip

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-03 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: snip What the hell is this third eye and why do you think it is important? The third eye is the portal to infinity, that's why it's important!

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-03 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MMY calls these marmas and thinks there are about 108 of them IIRC. Of these 3 are most important. 107 as I recall from working with an indian who trained for many years in the tradition that maintains the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-03 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TurquoiseB wrote: Or perhaps because chakras are grafted on after the vedic stuff he DOES consider important? Maharishi mentions marmas, and not chakras. In all fairness to MMY, I don't

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-03 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 9/3/06 2:19 PM, Bhairitu at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Haven't any of you guys considered the obvious? He doesn't speak about chakras (and thousands of other spiritual subjects) because he doesn't know

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-03 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The third eye is the portal to infinity, that's why it's important! Unfolding of the chakras unfold powers of morality, self control, chastity, descrimination, etc. That is why we meditate, and the unfolding of the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-02 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've only been meditating for 37 years (TM govenor/Siddha...in poor standing)and don't really know...any takers? BillyG. (previous subject line cut off) Hi, I think yes, it probably is, though I had such an

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-02 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 no_reply@ wrote: I've only been meditating for 37 years (TM govenor/Siddha...in poor standing)and don't really know...any takers? BillyG. (previous subject line

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-02 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 no_reply@ wrote: I've only been meditating for 37 years (TM govenor/Siddha...in poor

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-02 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not sure I understand all of what you said- all I can say is that when the third eye opens (a very weird expression by the way...) the ability is gained to see all manner of things without the optic machinery of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-02 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: Not sure I understand all of what you said- all I can say is that when the third eye opens (a very weird expression by the way...) the ability

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-02 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Indians in general speak of the third eye open (kundalini has risen) as a sign of enlightenment. And what does MMY say? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-02 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: Not sure I understand all of what you said- all I can say is that when the third eye opens (a very weird expression by the way...) the ability

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-02 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yep, I'm sure that is what Christ meant: me = 3rd eye. Yes, as Christ is *the only begotten* of the Father and is God immanent IN creation (formless Christ or Buddhic plane of consciousness, the one life, the one soul)

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-02 Thread Bhairitu
wmurphy77 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Indians in general speak of the third eye open (kundalini has risen) as a sign of enlightenment. And what does MMY say? Like others have mentioned here I never heard him speak of

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2006-09-02 Thread Peter
--- sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: Not sure I understand all of what you said- all I can say is that when the third eye opens (a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-02 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And what does MMY say? Like others have mentioned here I never heard him speak of the chakras. It's not that the information isn't important though. I'm not sure why MMY does not mention opening of the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-02 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: wmurphy77 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: Indians in general speak of the third eye open (kundalini has risen) as a sign of enlightenment. And

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-02 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: wmurphy77 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: Indians in general speak of the third eye open (kundalini has risen) as a sign of enlightenment. And

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-02 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: And what does MMY say? Like others have mentioned here I never heard him speak of the chakras. It's not that the information isn't

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-02 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: wmurphy77 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: Indians in general speak of the third eye open (kundalini has

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-02 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: snip Or perhaps because chakras are grafted on after the vedic stuff he DOES consider

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-02 Thread Bhairitu
wmurphy77 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And what does MMY say? Like others have mentioned here I never heard him speak of the chakras. It's not that the information isn't important though. I'm not sure why MMY

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-02 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: snip Or perhaps

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-02 Thread Bhairitu
jim_flanegin wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: wmurphy77 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: Indians in general speak of the third eye open (kundalini has risen) as a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-02 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: snip Or perhaps

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-02 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Quick google search yields little about chakras as spiritual thingies. There are wheels mentioned, but not spiritual nexi specifical called chakras. This appears to be a Tibetan Buddhist term, ? In Hinduism

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-02 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: jim_flanegin wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: wmurphy77 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: Indians in general

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-02 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: wmurphy77 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: And what does MMY say? Like others have mentioned here I never heard him speak of the chakras.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-02 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: jim_flanegin wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: wmurphy77 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: Indians in general

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-02 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: snip Or perhaps

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-02 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: snip Quick google search yields little about chakras as spiritual thingies. There are wheels mentioned, but not spiritual nexi specifical called

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-02 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: snip Quick google search yields little about chakras as spiritual thingies. There are wheels mentioned, but not spiritual nexi specifical called

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-02 Thread Bhairitu
sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: wmurphy77 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: And what does MMY say? Like others have mentioned here I never heard him speak of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-02 Thread Bhairitu
jim_flanegin wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: jim_flanegin wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: wmurphy77 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-02 Thread Bhairitu
sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: jim_flanegin wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: wmurphy77 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-02 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: snip Quick google search yields little about chakras as spiritual thingies. There are

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-02 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: wmurphy77 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: And what does MMY

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-02 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: jim_flanegin wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: jim_flanegin wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: wmurphy77 wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-02 Thread Robert Gimbel
(snip) I take that back. The mention of chakra appears to be descriptive rather than prescriptive (to use Judy's phrase), and there is much of interest in this upanishad for those who think TM is important rather than thinking that you gotta attend to each individual leaf (or chakra).

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-02 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (snip) I take that back. The mention of chakra appears to be descriptive rather than prescriptive (to use Judy's phrase), and there is much of interest in this upanishad for those who think TM is important