Om
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:
good critique Turq that gets at a problem. Right up there along with with
that economic short-selling one of yours before too. Original.
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Today I
Secular meditation, 3x per day: morning, noon, and night.
http://artfangs.com/NewFiles/IllusMorningNoon.html
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Om
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
good critique Turq that gets at a problem.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:
This study, along with other recent neuroradiological studies of Buddhist
meditators and Francescan nuns, suggests that all individuals, regardless of
cultural background or religion, experience the same neuropsychological
What would a completely secularized set of meditation and
self-development techniques LOOK LIKE? If you were to design one
or
speculate about one, what would it involve and not involve?
Retailing 'spirituality'
Marketing:
Where East Meets West,
Field
An MU study has data to support a neuropsychological model that proposes
spiritual experiences associated with selflessness are related to decreased
activity in the right parietal lobe of the brain.
Er, um, the main finding of TM research is that it is associated with increased
alpha coherence
What would a completely secularized set of meditation and
self-development techniques LOOK LIKE?
-The Holy Grail
Open source meditation? Yep, this guy from UCLA in neuroscience is doing
it. With his Time-in meditation. He is dang close to secular and
open-source.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:
What would a completely secularized set of meditation and
self-development techniques LOOK LIKE?
-The Holy Grail
* * Over the years I have really enjoyed the Holy Grail corpus and loved its
Unitive emphasis on alchemy,
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
What would a completely secularized set of meditation and
self-development techniques LOOK LIKE?
-The Holy Grail
* * Over the years I have
That creates problems in some environments. The dedicated people in
those environments -- teachers, therapists, health care professionals
and even law enforcement or prison officials -- are DYING for techniques
that would help the people they're dedicated to helping. But many of
these people are
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
What would a completely secularized set of meditation and
self-development
In comparison, TM is very much proprietary source software. It cannot
really ever be completely divorced from its origins in Hindu (or, if you
prefer, Vedic) trappings.
Would seem that TM is between a rock and a hard place trying to get in to
public institutions generally. Could the TM-Rajas
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
Open source meditation? Yep, this guy from UCLA in neuroscience is doing
TM is practiced in public and private schools throughout the USA these days as
part of the Quiet Time program of the David Lynch Foundation.
It is true that there is no way in the USA for TM to be funded by a public
school system, but the DLF has introduced the Quiet TIme program to hundreds of
This study, along with other recent neuroradiological studies of Buddhist
meditators and Francescan nuns, suggests that all individuals, regardless of
cultural background or religion, experience the same neuropsychological
functions during spiritual experiences, such as transcendence.
--- In
This study, along with other recent neuroradiological studies of Buddhist
meditators and Francescan nuns, suggests that all individuals, regardless of
cultural background or religion, experience the same neuropsychological
functions during spiritual experiences, such as transcendence.
Selflessness -- Core Of All Major World Religions -- Has Neuropsychological
Connection
This study, along with other recent neuroradiological studies of Buddhist
meditators and Francescan nuns, suggests that all individuals, regardless
of cultural background or religion, experience
Researchers say the implication of this connection means people in many
disciplines, including peace studies, health care or religion can learn
different ways to attain selflessness, to experience transcendence, and to help
themselves and others.
Selflessness -- Core Of All Major World
What would it be? Secular Meditation?
A race in the marketplace (particularly for a publicly funded meditation taught
and used in school for good reasons of science) is evidently on. Whoever
succeeds at developing it proly should get a Nobel Prize in science. If they
succeed in getting it
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:
What would it be? Secular Meditation?
A race in the marketplace (particularly for a publicly
funded meditation taught and used in school for good
reasons of science) is evidently on. Whoever succeeds
at developing
Open source meditation? Yep, this guy from UCLA in neuroscience is doing it.
With his Time-in meditation. He is dang close to secular and open-source.
Take a listen to his Google-talk:
http://drdansiegel.com/resources/video_clips/
What would it be? Secular Meditation?
A race in
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:
Open source meditation? Yep, this guy from UCLA in neuroscience is doing it.
With his Time-in meditation. He is dang close to secular and open-source.
Take a listen to his Google-talk:
In comparison, TM is very much proprietary source software. It
cannot
really ever be completely divorced from its origins in Hindu (or,
if you
prefer, Vedic) trappings. To teach it, a person has to not only be
specially trained by the organization that holds
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
Open source meditation? Yep, this guy from UCLA in neuroscience is doing
it. With his Time-in meditation. He is dang close to secular and
good critique Turq that gets at a problem. Right up there along with with
that economic short-selling one of yours before too. Original.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
Today I found myself remembering something Vaj said -- that one of the
Always had the old school name:Non-reader
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:
good critique Turq that gets at a problem. Right up there along with
with that economic short-selling one of yours before too. Original.
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On Aug 4, 2011, at 9:44 PM, seventhray1 wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltablues@... wrote:
BTW is this service Rory renders an hourly rate or is it billed by
intensity? (Cat-o-nine with the metal tips only in the premium Mel Gibson
package.)
* * Beautiful, Mark! Having myself undergone a dark night of the soul for
several years, during which horrific time I lost the golden light of God and
Master and my own soul, and my own certainties and special attainments, and
where absolutely everything I believed in or held dear crumbled to
Thank you for sharing this, and I agree. We do seem to be kindred spirits in
many ways, though, of course, we part ways in certain areas. I'm glad we met.
Perhaps our association will continue.
Perhaps, too, we should talk on the phone sometime. I don't know if we could
strike up a real
You may have missed this one. But I think this soundtrack and
presentation would go well with your little sermon. I enjoyed it and
yes agree that it is overblown. But Charlie could deliver it well I
think.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLci5DoZqHU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLci5DoZqHU
I know a few folks who are looking for work. Are the voracious, all-consuming
greed factories hiring?
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* * Beautiful, Mark! Having myself undergone a dark night of the soul for
several years, during which horrific time I
Thank you, 7th ray, nice, touching and somewhat hilarious, though in the
context of his doing what he could to counterbalance what was happening in the
world and the little I know of the toll it took on him, a little sad. How many
eons have voices in the dark worlds been saying such things?
At least one is hiring to replace me.
On Aug 5, 2011, at 8:57 PM, whynotnow7 wrote:
I know a few folks who are looking for work. Are the voracious,
all-consuming greed factories hiring?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote:
* * Beautiful, Mark! Having
Yes, Mark, that sounds good! Feel free to email me whenever you would like to
connect. And it would be fun to meet; if you ever make it to Fairfield, please
be sure to look us up.
I meant a priori in that Realization is even prior to direct experience;
experience is itself the feedback or the
That is good. Take a look at Janet Sussman for example. There are others.
Her teaching fulfills a lot of what you peg as a more secular
meditational/spiritual non-religious practice. She has been at it for a long
time as a spiritual teacher. You can google her name. She also has a page at
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:
That is good. Take a look at Janet Sussman for example. There are others.
Her teaching fulfills a lot of what you peg as a more secular
meditational/spiritual non-religious practice. She has been at it for a long
time
Doug, If you find out about a service for Jeff, please email me.
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wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
That is good. Take a look at Janet Sussman for example. There are
In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@...
wrote:
So, you're outta here until the evening of Aug 12.
Bhur hoo!
OM MG!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
That is good. Take a look at Janet Sussman for example. There are
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@...
wrote:
In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@
wrote:
So, you're outta here until the evening of Aug 12.
Bhur hoo!
OM MG!
I'll have to have Rory give me 50 lashings for
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
snip
If I were to try to create a true secular spiriuality, I
wouldn't recommend meditation that used mantras at all.
snip
I doubt I'd recommend heavy visualization techniques to folks
just starting meditation, but again my
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@...
wrote:
I'll have to have Rory give me 50 lashings for missing the opportunity to
say, The Buck stops here.
The save counts, I missed it too.
BTW is this service Rory renders an hourly rate or is it billed by
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@...
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@
wrote:
I'll have to have Rory give me 50 lashings for missing the opportunity to
say, The Buck stops here.
The save counts,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote:
All this sounds vaguely familiar, I think I signed this exact document when I
became a teacher! You left out the part of equitable relief if the
contract (which we were not given a copy of) was broken.
I appreciate your
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltablues@... wrote:
BTW is this service Rory renders an hourly rate or is it billed by
intensity? (Cat-o-nine with the metal tips only in the premium Mel
Gibson package.)
I think we the real question we have to ask is, Is Mark an
turquoiseb:
...mindfulness can be completely secularized.
Mindfullness is a Buddhist religious practice, so it
might be difficult to completely secularize it. If you
tried to do so, you'd get something very much similar to
the TM practice.
In order to totally secularize the Shamtha pratices
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
Today I found myself remembering something Vaj said -- that one of the
reasons mindfulness is making inroads into PC-sensitive environments
such as publicly-funded schools, in which other techniques such as TM
might
turquoiseb:
If the meditation practices you suggest use mantras,
where would they come from?
The source of the bija mantras used in TM and in the
Tibetan Dzogchen have the same source: the Tantric
Tradition which was established in India during the
Gupta Age.
The bija mantras used in
Secular or God-based, what is the difference, really? Both make assumptions in
order to create a path to ultimate freedom.
The more important point is, imo, how's that working for you, or me?
Why can't we have our God and secularize it too? Perhaps enjoy our rational
secular viewpoint at
... or secularize that creation into the humanity we feel
for each other? Doesn't have to be an either/or situation.
Already here. Its called Buddhism.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@...
wrote:
Secular or God-based, what is the difference, really? Both make
Yep, *everything* is already here. :-)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@... wrote:
... or secularize that creation into the humanity we feel
for each other? Doesn't have to be an either/or situation.
Already here. Its called Buddhism.
--- In
This is was profound post for me. I believe Sam Harris has taken your
questions pretty seriously and has written about possible answers. The
comparison between TM and proprietary software is right on. Getting TM into
schools will always be saddled with the same problems as an other religious
-- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote:
Secular or God-based, what is the difference, really? Both make assumptions
in order to create a path to ultimate freedom.
This is the problem, there actually is a huge difference including the embedded
belief like the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@...
wrote:
This is was profound post for me.
Thanks for this, Curtis. I figured that you'd be one
of the folks who would get the intent behind these
questions. Given the polarity we see around us behind
the duality of
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
Today I found myself remembering something Vaj said -- that one of the
reasons mindfulness is making inroads into PC-sensitive environments
such as publicly-funded schools, in which other techniques such as TM
might
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@...
wrote:
-- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote:
Secular or God-based, what is the difference, really? Both make assumptions
in order to create a path to ultimate freedom.
This is
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote:
To a certain extent this is true. However, the City of Rio de Janeiro has put
its entire school system on the waiting list to learn TM through the David
Lynch Foundation. One million kids. That's pretty wide-spread
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius
anartaxius@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
Today I found myself remembering something Vaj said -- that one of the
reasons mindfulness is making inroads into PC-sensitive
Daniel Siegel from UCLA has been working on the secular part of this for a
while. Reference a look at this old FFL posting and thread for Daniel Siegel.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/235500
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@
good critique Turq that gets at a problem. Right up there along with with
that economic short-selling one of yours before too. Original.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
Today I found myself remembering something Vaj said -- that one of the
reasons
Why meditative practice Creates Well-being in our Bodies and Minds:
http://drdansiegel.com/uploads/SuperConsciousness%20article.interview.pdf
good critique Turq that gets at a problem. Right up there along with with
that economic short-selling one of yours before too. Original.
---
http://atomicgator.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/unicorns-rainbow.jpg
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:
Why meditative practice Creates Well-being in our Bodies and Minds:
http://drdansiegel.com/uploads/SuperConsciousness%20article.interview.pdf
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