[FairfieldLife] Re: For MJ and the Turq

2013-06-03 Thread Ann


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> > >
> > > Dr. PS, as I said, I've only seen Elephant Man and The Straight Story.  
> > > Even from these two, I can tell that Lynch does not have a normal mind, 
> > > whatever that is!  I just read the plot summary of Eraserhead on rotten 
> > > tomatoes.  It does not sound like my favorite type of film (-:
> > 
> > 
> > Eraserhead is about eternal Love. I think you would like it, once you learn 
> > to view with your heart.
> 
> Personally I love the movie, but "universal love"?
> 
> (From wiki)
> 
> "The Man in the Planet (Jack Fisk) is seen moving levers in his home in 
> space, while the head of Henry Spencer (Jack Nance) is seen floating in the 
> sky. A spermatozoon-like creature emerges from Spencer's mouth, floating into 
> the void.
> In an industrial cityscape, Spencer walks home with his groceries. He is 
> stopped outside his apartment by the Beautiful Girl Across the Hall (Judith 
> Anna Roberts), who informs him that his girlfriend, Mary X (Charlotte 
> Stewart), has invited him to dinner with her family. Spencer leaves his 
> groceries in his apartment, which is filled with piles of dirt and dead 
> vegetation. That night, Spencer visits X's home, conversing awkwardly with 
> her mother (Jeanne Bates). At the dinner table, he is asked to carve a 
> chicken that X's talkative father (Allen Joseph) has "made"; the bird moves 
> and writhes on the plate and gushes blood when cut. After dinner, Spencer is 
> cornered by X's mother, who tries to kiss him. She tells him that X has had 
> his child and that the two must marry. X, however, is not sure if what she 
> bore is a child.
> The couple move into Spencer's one-room apartment and begin caring for the 
> child—a swaddled bundle with an inhuman, snakelike face, resembling the 
> spermatozoon creature seen earlier. The infant refuses all food, crying 
> incessantly and intolerably. The sound drives X hysterical, and she leaves 
> Spencer and the child. Spencer attempts to care for the child, and he learns 
> that it struggles to breathe and has developed painful sores.
> Spencer begins experiencing visions, again seeing the Man in the Planet, as 
> well as the Lady in the Radiator (Laurel Near), who sings to him as she 
> stomps upon miniature replicas of Spencer's child. After a sexual encounter 
> with the Beautiful Girl Across the Hall, Spencer has another vision, seeing 
> his own head fall off, revealing a stump underneath that resembles the 
> child's face. Spencer's head falls from the sky, landing on a street and 
> breaking open. A boy finds it, bringing it to a pencil factory to be turned 
> into erasers. Spencer is then seen, in his normal form, in a billowing cloud 
> of eraser shavings.
> Spencer tries to seek out the Beautiful Girl Across the Hall, but she has 
> begun taking other men home. Crushed, Spencer returns to his room, where the 
> child is crying. He takes a pair of scissors and for the first time removes 
> the child's swaddling. It is revealed that the child has no skin; the 
> bandages held its internal organs together, and they spill apart after the 
> rags are cut. The child gasps in pain, and Spencer stabs its organs with the 
> scissors. The wounds gush a thick liquid, covering the child. The power in 
> the room overloads, causing the lights to flicker; as they flick on and off 
> the child grows to huge proportions. As the lights burn out completely, the 
> child's head is replaced by the planet seen at the beginning. The side of the 
> planet bursts apart, and inside, the Man in the Planet struggles with his 
> levers, which are now emitting sparks. Spencer is embraced warmly by the Lady 
> in the Radiator, as both white light and white noise build to a crescendo 
> before the screen turns black and silent."
> 
> Great and harrowing stuff but I need an explanation about the
> universal love.

I think he said "eternal love" but the description of this movie just sounds 
like a tripped-out bad dream to me. However, I never saw it so perhaps the wiki 
synopsis fails to capture the poignancy, the love, the eternal nature of caring 
that the moving pictures and sound track convey according to Nabby. I'm not 
about to spend an hour and a half of my life to find out though.
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: For MJ and the Turq

2013-06-03 Thread card

Lynch's maternal ancestry is from Finland. Despite their
Swedish family name (Sundholm) they might actually've been
(Uralic) Finns, because many Finnish speaking families
took Swedish family names in the 17th and 18th century, I
believe.

Thus, David might well have some Siberian mammoth hunter
genes. That could explain a lot, now couldn't it?

Wiki:

Lynch was born in Missoula, Montana on January 20, 1946.[13][14] His father, 
Donald Walton Lynch, was a research scientist working for the U.S. Department 
of Agriculture, and his mother, Edwina "Sunny" Lynch (née Sundholm), was an 
English language tutor[13] whose grandfather's parents had immigrated to the 
United States from Finland in the 19th century.[15]



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> >
> > Dr. PS, as I said, I've only seen Elephant Man and The Straight Story.  
> > Even from these two, I can tell that Lynch does not have a normal mind, 
> > whatever that is!  I just read the plot summary of Eraserhead on rotten 
> > tomatoes.  It does not sound like my favorite type of film (-:
> 
> 
> Eraserhead is about eternal Love. I think you would like it, once you learn 
> to view with your heart.
>



[FairfieldLife] Re: For MJ and the Turq

2013-06-02 Thread salyavin808


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> >
> > Dr. PS, as I said, I've only seen Elephant Man and The Straight Story.  
> > Even from these two, I can tell that Lynch does not have a normal mind, 
> > whatever that is!  I just read the plot summary of Eraserhead on rotten 
> > tomatoes.  It does not sound like my favorite type of film (-:
> 
> 
> Eraserhead is about eternal Love. I think you would like it, once you learn 
> to view with your heart.

Personally I love the movie, but "universal love"?

(From wiki)

"The Man in the Planet (Jack Fisk) is seen moving levers in his home in space, 
while the head of Henry Spencer (Jack Nance) is seen floating in the sky. A 
spermatozoon-like creature emerges from Spencer's mouth, floating into the void.
In an industrial cityscape, Spencer walks home with his groceries. He is 
stopped outside his apartment by the Beautiful Girl Across the Hall (Judith 
Anna Roberts), who informs him that his girlfriend, Mary X (Charlotte Stewart), 
has invited him to dinner with her family. Spencer leaves his groceries in his 
apartment, which is filled with piles of dirt and dead vegetation. That night, 
Spencer visits X's home, conversing awkwardly with her mother (Jeanne Bates). 
At the dinner table, he is asked to carve a chicken that X's talkative father 
(Allen Joseph) has "made"; the bird moves and writhes on the plate and gushes 
blood when cut. After dinner, Spencer is cornered by X's mother, who tries to 
kiss him. She tells him that X has had his child and that the two must marry. 
X, however, is not sure if what she bore is a child.
The couple move into Spencer's one-room apartment and begin caring for the 
child—a swaddled bundle with an inhuman, snakelike face, resembling the 
spermatozoon creature seen earlier. The infant refuses all food, crying 
incessantly and intolerably. The sound drives X hysterical, and she leaves 
Spencer and the child. Spencer attempts to care for the child, and he learns 
that it struggles to breathe and has developed painful sores.
Spencer begins experiencing visions, again seeing the Man in the Planet, as 
well as the Lady in the Radiator (Laurel Near), who sings to him as she stomps 
upon miniature replicas of Spencer's child. After a sexual encounter with the 
Beautiful Girl Across the Hall, Spencer has another vision, seeing his own head 
fall off, revealing a stump underneath that resembles the child's face. 
Spencer's head falls from the sky, landing on a street and breaking open. A boy 
finds it, bringing it to a pencil factory to be turned into erasers. Spencer is 
then seen, in his normal form, in a billowing cloud of eraser shavings.
Spencer tries to seek out the Beautiful Girl Across the Hall, but she has begun 
taking other men home. Crushed, Spencer returns to his room, where the child is 
crying. He takes a pair of scissors and for the first time removes the child's 
swaddling. It is revealed that the child has no skin; the bandages held its 
internal organs together, and they spill apart after the rags are cut. The 
child gasps in pain, and Spencer stabs its organs with the scissors. The wounds 
gush a thick liquid, covering the child. The power in the room overloads, 
causing the lights to flicker; as they flick on and off the child grows to huge 
proportions. As the lights burn out completely, the child's head is replaced by 
the planet seen at the beginning. The side of the planet bursts apart, and 
inside, the Man in the Planet struggles with his levers, which are now emitting 
sparks. Spencer is embraced warmly by the Lady in the Radiator, as both white 
light and white noise build to a crescendo before the screen turns black and 
silent."

Great and harrowing stuff but I need an explanation about the
universal love.



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: For MJ and the Turq

2013-06-02 Thread Share Long
dear Nablusoss, I just watched its trailer on youtube.  I want to like it 
because I like you and I'm still grateful for the recommendation.  It could be 
that I simply have a feminine perspective on eternal love and you a masculine.  
Vive le difference maybe...





 From: nablusoss1008 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2013 6:26 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: For MJ and the Turq
 


  


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>
> Dr. PS, as I said, I've only seen Elephant Man and The Straight Story.  Even 
> from these two, I can tell that Lynch does not have a normal mind, whatever 
> that is!  I just read the plot summary of Eraserhead on rotten tomatoes.  
> It does not sound like my favorite type of film (-:

Eraserhead is about eternal Love. I think you would like it, once you learn to 
view with your heart.


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: For MJ and the Turq

2013-06-02 Thread nablusoss1008


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>
> Dr. PS, as I said, I've only seen Elephant Man and The Straight Story.  Even 
> from these two, I can tell that Lynch does not have a normal mind, whatever 
> that is!  I just read the plot summary of Eraserhead on rotten tomatoes.  
> It does not sound like my favorite type of film (-:


Eraserhead is about eternal Love. I think you would like it, once you learn to 
view with your heart.



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: For MJ and the Turq

2013-06-02 Thread Share Long
Dr. PS, as I said, I've only seen Elephant Man and The Straight Story.  Even 
from these two, I can tell that Lynch does not have a normal mind, whatever 
that is!  I just read the plot summary of Eraserhead on rotten tomatoes.  It 
does not sound like my favorite type of film (-:
I have a long term gov friend who used to try to convince me to see Silence of 
the Lambs because he knew I'm into movies.  Though I recognize that it's 
probably great cinema, it's really not my cup of tea.  I can have a very 
visceral reaction to screen violence.      





 From: drpsutphen 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2013 3:41 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: For MJ and the Turq
 


  
When Lynch is constrained by a more traditional narrative he does fine with 
only a little weirdness coming through from time-to-time. But Judy or Share, 
have you seen "Eraserhead"? There is no way you can think such a movie comes 
from a normal mind. This is a very "sick" movie.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
> >
> > If you can watch the Twin Peaks series and NOT say that son
> > of a bitch is ill in his feeble mind then there is something 
> > seriously wrong with you.
> 
> Must be something wrong with me, then. I thought much of
> "Twin Peaks" was brilliant.
> 
> And it was must-see TV at the time, too, so I had lots of
> company.
> 
> A lot of it was side-splittingly funny. Some of the humor
> was creepy, but dude, this was prime-time network television,
> so obviously it wasn't "ill" enough to make most people
> uncomfortable.
> 
> If it made you uncomfortable, fine, you're entitled. But of
> all the possible descriptions of the mind of the guy
> responsible, "feeble" is about the last one that could
> legitimately be applied.
> 
> IMHO, of course.
>


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: For MJ and the Turq

2013-06-02 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" 
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> > 
> > > However, a decade or so from now, while y'all are
> > > still trying to distance yourselves from ever having
> > > confessed to having liked "Twin Peaks,"
> >
> > Who has been trying to distance themselves from having
> > asserted that they liked "Twin Peaks"? Did I miss
> > something? Or is Barry just confused again?
> 
> Well, I would say that you missed the phrase "a
> decade or so from now." "Still" refers to the idea
> that they'll still be claiming to find depth in the
> series then, all those years on, not that they're
> distancing themselves from it now. Pretty astounding
> oopsie from someone who claims to be a professional
> editor and spends much of her time berating others
> on this form for their inability to read.  :-)

Uh, no, pinhead, actually it appears you miswrote to
start with--which is what I was pointing out--and are
still miswriting in an attempt to wiggle out of the
first error.

"Still trying to distance yourselves" in a decade or
so implies we're trying to distance ourselves *now*.
That was your first mistake.

Unfortunately, you can't fix it by explaining 
"distance yourselves" as "still claiming to find
depth." It's one or the other.

Just say "Oopsie!"

In any case, I don't think anybody has claimed to
"find depth" in "Twin Peaks." I certainly haven't. So
your attempt at a fix got that wrong too.

> My point -- although speculative -- was that in a
> decade or so I think *most* people will find "Twin
> Peaks" a laughable exercise in pretense and, as I
> suggested by reposting Alex's video clip, a classic
> example of "being weird just to be weird."

>From this and the rest of what you write, I gather
you didn't see much if any of the series. Nor did
you read what I wrote about it.

> It's the same realization that many of us who liked
> Jean-Luc Godard's films in our youth come to when
> re-watching them these days. They're so bad as to
> be laughable. Nothing but youthful posturing and
> the use of incomprehensible (or non-existent) plots
> and one-dimensional characters to make it *seem* as
> if they're full of deep, symbolic, cosmic meaning.

I don't think "Twin Peaks" had much if any "deep,
symbolic, cosmic meaning." If it did, it went over
my head. But the characters themselves were certainly
not "one-dimensional."

The plot did get less and less comprehensible as it
went along, and I lost interest somewhere into the
second season (as I said to start with, I found
"much of" the series brilliant).

Whether the good parts will lose their charm in a
decade, I have no idea. I doubt it. But if they do,
I won't be apologizing or trying to distance myself
from having liked them. At the time (and still), 
they were brilliant.

> That's what I suspect will happen with "Twin Peaks"
> and many of Lynch's movies. There's an "artsy" trap
> that many critics and moviegoers fall prey to in
> that they feel that films *with* strong plotlines
> and strong, believable characters can't really be
> full of deep meaning.

Really? I've never heard anything like that. To the
contrary.

 They write off these films to
> some extent and put down the filmmakers as creators
> of "popular entertainment." You hear this said all
> the time about Steven Spielberg.

Um, "Twin Peaks" was a prime-time network television
series, toots. You're really losing track here. You
can't put "Twin Peaks" in the same category as his
films exactly *because* it was "popular entertainment."

> My reaction is, "Excuse me? Shakespeare was a creator
> of popular entertainment. That doesn't mean that his
> works were devoid of depth or that they didn't explore
> interesting topics."
> 
> I have an admitted prejudice towards Joss Whedon because
> I think he creates (in his TV work, anyway...I'm not as
> impressed by his recent blockbuster movies) some of the most
> tightly-plotted stories going, full of strong, interesting
> characters who would be memorable on their own, but who
> become much more so because of their interactions with
> other characters, just as strong and just as interesting as
> they are. There is no such thing as an "extra" in a Joss
> Whedon story; everyone has a strong role to play, and
> without any one of them the whole wouldn't be whole.
> 
> You could remove an enigmatic dwarf of three from any of
> David Lynch's movies, and no one would even notice. They
> were there in the first place only to throw an element
> of weirdness into the mix, and lure people who fall for
> that stuff into thinking he had deep things to say. I
> don't think he did.
> 
> Although I think he's done acceptable work in the past,
> I don't hold "Twin Peaks" or most of his recent films
> among them.

Remember, I've been talking only about "Twin Peaks." And
as I said, it's clear that you never saw much if any of
it, so your criti

[FairfieldLife] Re: For MJ and the Turq

2013-06-02 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> 
> > However, a decade or so from now, while y'all are
> > still trying to distance yourselves from ever having
> > confessed to having liked "Twin Peaks,"
>
> Who has been trying to distance themselves from having
> asserted that they liked "Twin Peaks"? Did I miss
> something? Or is Barry just confused again?

Well, I would say that you missed the phrase "a
decade or so from now." "Still" refers to the idea
that they'll still be claiming to find depth in the
series then, all those years on, not that they're
distancing themselves from it now. Pretty astounding
oopsie from someone who claims to be a professional
editor and spends much of her time berating others
on this form for their inability to read.  :-)

My point -- although speculative -- was that in a
decade or so I think *most* people will find "Twin
Peaks" a laughable exercise in pretense and, as I
suggested by reposting Alex's video clip, a classic
example of "being weird just to be weird."

It's the same realization that many of us who liked
Jean-Luc Godard's films in our youth come to when
re-watching them these days. They're so bad as to
be laughable. Nothing but youthful posturing and
the use of incomprehensible (or non-existent) plots
and one-dimensional characters to make it *seem* as
if they're full of deep, symbolic, cosmic meaning.

That's what I suspect will happen with "Twin Peaks"
and many of Lynch's movies. There's an "artsy" trap
that many critics and moviegoers fall prey to in
that they feel that films *with* strong plotlines
and strong, believable characters can't really be
full of deep meaning. They write off these films to
some extent and put down the filmmakers as creators
of "popular entertainment." You hear this said all
the time about Steven Spielberg.

My reaction is, "Excuse me? Shakespeare was a creator
of popular entertainment. That doesn't mean that his
works were devoid of depth or that they didn't explore
interesting topics."

I have an admitted prejudice towards Joss Whedon because
I think he creates (in his TV work, anyway...I'm not as
impressed by his recent blockbuster movies) some of the most
tightly-plotted stories going, full of strong, interesting
characters who would be memorable on their own, but who
become much more so because of their interactions with
other characters, just as strong and just as interesting as
they are. There is no such thing as an "extra" in a Joss
Whedon story; everyone has a strong role to play, and
without any one of them the whole wouldn't be whole.

You could remove an enigmatic dwarf of three from any of
David Lynch's movies, and no one would even notice. They
were there in the first place only to throw an element
of weirdness into the mix, and lure people who fall for
that stuff into thinking he had deep things to say. I
don't think he did.

Although I think he's done acceptable work in the past,
I don't hold "Twin Peaks" or most of his recent films
among them. They are pretty much the film counterpart of
the cartoon series he "penned" for the L.A. Weekly for
many years. "Penned" is in quotes because he drew it
ONCE, and never changed it in all the succeeding years.
All he had to do was send the editors new words to insert
into the word balloons each week:



That's how I think he makes movies. He just recycles the
same images from his nightmares, going for weirdness to
distract people from the fact that he doesn't have any
creative ideas any more, if he ever did. YMMV.




[FairfieldLife] Re: For MJ and the Turq

2013-06-01 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:

> However, a decade or so from now, while y'all are 
> still trying to distance yourselves from ever having
> confessed to having liked "Twin Peaks,"

Who has been trying to distance themselves from having
asserted that they liked "Twin Peaks"? Did I miss
something? Or is Barry just confused again?





[FairfieldLife] Re: For MJ and the Turq

2013-06-01 Thread nablusoss1008


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > What of INLAND EMPIRE?
> 
> It has the touch of a real genius. As with all Lynch's films they are 
> confusing at first and revealing a true love for mankind in a touching way. 
> You could say that about all his films, it's, at least for me, the "touch" of 
> David Lynch which also has written him forever into that short list of 
> historic film-makers.
> 
> What makes Inland Empire extraordinary is that it was shot without a script, 
> every move and every shot was improvised as they went along. Even the actors 
> were improvising, many of them complete amateurs Lynch met on the street, in 
> some cases even during shooting. Everything was based on ideas that unveiled 
> themselves as he went along shooting (with a small digital camera).  
> 
> Film-critics, and I'm not refferring to lovers of B-movies and silly movies 
> by Woddy Allen on this list, but real lovers of the art of filmmaking often 
> see it 4-5 times before they get the clue. So don't expect the Turq to say 
> anything valid about this film. But, read my lips, he'll probably be able to 
> cough up some simpeltons amongs the critics that simply didn't get it.


David Lynch on Inland Empire:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37J68A6QcKg



[FairfieldLife] Re: For MJ and the Turq

2013-06-01 Thread nablusoss1008


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig"  wrote:
>
> 
> What of INLAND EMPIRE?

It has the touch of a real genius. As with all Lynch's films they are confusing 
at first and revealing a true love for mankind in a touching way. You could say 
that about all his films, it's, at least for me, the "touch" of David Lynch 
which also has written him forever into that short list of historic film-makers.

What makes Inland Empire extraordinary is that it was shot without a script, 
every move and every shot was improvised as they went along. Even the actors 
were improvising, many of them complete amateurs Lynch met on the street, in 
some cases even during shooting. Everything was based on ideas that unveiled 
themselves as he went along shooting (with a small digital camera).  

Film-critics, and I'm not refferring to lovers of B-movies and silly movies by 
Woddy Allen on this list, but real lovers of the art of filmmaking often see it 
4-5 times before they get the clue. So don't expect the Turq to say anything 
valid about this film. But, read my lips, he'll probably be able to cough up 
some simpeltons amongs the critics that simply didn't get it.





[FairfieldLife] Re: For MJ and the Turq

2013-06-01 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
>
> Oh I admit it is well made, and the actors (most of them were
> quite good)

The acting was top-drawer, total emotional honesty even
given the very odd characters they were playing. No
condescension whatsoever.

The big surprise (to me) was Richard Beymer, last seen
(by me) as Tony in "West Side Story." Fantastic
performance, I thought.

> but the abuse and murder of women that seem to be a theme
> in his films was not to my taste

Nor mine. But there were some terrific, very powerful
female characters. Piper Laurie was extraordinary.

Don't know how involved Lynch was in the casting--I would
imagine pretty deeply--but the casting and the acting were
both superb.

Not commenting on any of the rest of this one way or the
other...

I will say I wasn't aware Lynch was a TMer until well after
"Twin Peaks."


> - not to mention the irony of:
> 
> 1 - Marshy and the TM leaders and the even low level governors who for YEARS 
> have talked about how we need to be careful what we watch, what we think, 
> what we say, what kind of energy we are putting out and "entertaining" - in 
> other words not to "entertain" negativity by exposing oneself to it and by 
> the way Big Bopper Bevan used to expound on such themes in staff meetings at 
> MIU and here this ass Lynch who claims TM gave him the creativity to make the 
> films is pumping out negativity at a phenomenal rate and don't bother to tell 
> me that you don't think the films express negativity because by Movement 
> standards his films are loaded with it.
> 
> 2 - The irony of the Movement not allowing his films like Eraserhead, Blue 
> Velvet and Twin Peaks to be shown at any of their facilities, yet praising 
> the bastard for what a great filmmaker he is. Typical Movement hypocrisy.
> 
> For the record, I reviled Lynch when I first saw a few episodes of Twin 
> Peaks, not knowing he was a meditator. When a TM friend in Kentucky told me 
> that not only was Lynch an ardent TM'er, he had been meditating long before 
> he made Twin Peaks, I thought he was out of his mind.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________
>  From: authfriend 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2013 1:46 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: For MJ and the Turq
>  
> 
> 
>   
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
> >
> > If you can watch the Twin Peaks series and NOT say that son
> > of a bitch is ill in his feeble mind then there is something 
> > seriously wrong with you.
> 
> Must be something wrong with me, then. I thought much of
> "Twin Peaks" was brilliant.
> 
> And it was must-see TV at the time, too, so I had lots of
> company.
> 
> A lot of it was side-splittingly funny. Some of the humor
> was creepy, but dude, this was prime-time network television,
> so obviously it wasn't "ill" enough to make most people
> uncomfortable.
> 
> If it made you uncomfortable, fine, you're entitled. But of
> all the possible descriptions of the mind of the guy
> responsible, "feeble" is about the last one that could
> legitimately be applied.
> 
> IMHO, of course.
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: For MJ and the Turq

2013-06-01 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
>
> Steven Spielberg
> Larry McMurtry
> Jo Rowling
> Frederick Remington
> Nora Ephron
> James Bama
> 
> Just a few of the great artists of our time who are not
> screwed up in the head. The idea that you have to be fucked
> up to be a creative genius is as solid as the idea that
> group practice of TMSP is gonna save the world.

Since you seem to be commenting on my post to Peter, and
appear to believe I was saying one has to be fucked up
to be a creative genius, I think perhaps a second reading
is in order.




 Notice how adroitly I revile TM as I make my point about almost anything else. 
> 
> Disclaimer: Such creativity on my part was not cultivated through TM 
> practice. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  From: authfriend 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2013 5:42 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: For MJ and the Turq
>  
> 
> 
>   
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "drpsutphen"  wrote:
> >
> > When Lynch is constrained by a more traditional narrative he
> > does fine with only a little weirdness coming through from
> > time-to-time.
> 
> Well, that wouldn't apply to "Twin Peaks," which was quite
> consistently weird (albeit not always creepy-weird, and
> nowhere near as weird, from what I've read and heard, as
> much of his other work) and most certainly not a
> "traditional" narrative. But (as noted) I thought he did
> more than fine with it.
> 
> > But Judy or Share, have you seen "Eraserhead"? There is no
> > way you can think such a movie comes from a normal mind.
> > This is a very "sick" movie.
> 
> You know, Peter, I don't recall having made a blanket
> endorsement of Lynch's work as coming from a "normal"
> mind. That would be kinda silly of me, having seen only
> "Twin Peaks" and, long ago, "Elephant Man." Here I was 
> commenting only on "Twin Peaks" in response to Michael's
> denunciation thereof.
> 
> I will say, however, generally speaking, I'm not at all
> sure that the most inspired and creative artistic work
> in any medium comes only from "normal" minds. By the same
> token, I don't believe a mind that doesn't qualify as
> "normal" is necessarily "sick." And some arguably "sick"
> minds do indisputably brilliant work (e.g., Van Gogh).
> 
> Finally, you'll forgive me if I don't accept credentials
> in psychology as equally valid with regard to critical
> evaluation of artistic work.
> 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > If you can watch the Twin Peaks series and NOT say that son
> > > > of a bitch is ill in his feeble mind then there is something 
> > > > seriously wrong with you.
> > > 
> > > Must be something wrong with me, then. I thought much of
> > > "Twin Peaks" was brilliant.
> > > 
> > > And it was must-see TV at the time, too, so I had lots of
> > > company.
> > > 
> > > A lot of it was side-splittingly funny. Some of the humor
> > > was creepy, but dude, this was prime-time network television,
> > > so obviously it wasn't "ill" enough to make most people
> > > uncomfortable.
> > > 
> > > If it made you uncomfortable, fine, you're entitled. But of
> > > all the possible descriptions of the mind of the guy
> > > responsible, "feeble" is about the last one that could
> > > legitimately be applied.
> > > 
> > > IMHO, of course.
> > >
> >
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: For MJ and the Turq

2013-06-01 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, azgrey  wrote:
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "drpsutphen"  wrote:
> > >
> > > When Lynch is constrained by a more traditional narrative he
> > > does fine with only a little weirdness coming through from
> > > time-to-time.
> > 
> > Well, that wouldn't apply to "Twin Peaks," which was quite
> > consistently weird (albeit not always creepy-weird, and
> > nowhere near as weird, from what I've read and heard, as
> > much of his other work) and most certainly not a
> > "traditional" narrative. But (as noted) I thought he did
> > more than fine with it.
> > 
> > > But Judy or Share, have you seen "Eraserhead"? There is no
> > > way you can think such a movie comes from a normal mind.
> > > This is a very "sick" movie.
> > 
> > You know, Peter, I don't recall having made a blanket
> > endorsement of Lynch's work as coming from a "normal"
> > mind. That would be kinda silly of me, having seen only
> > "Twin Peaks" and, long ago, "Elephant Man." Here I was 
> > commenting only on "Twin Peaks" in response to Michael's
> > denunciation thereof.
> > 
> > I will say, however, generally speaking, I'm not at all
> > sure that the most inspired and creative artistic work
> > in any medium comes only from "normal" minds. By the same
> > token, I don't believe a mind that doesn't qualify as
> > "normal" is necessarily "sick." And some arguably "sick"
> > minds do indisputably brilliant work (e.g., Van Gogh).
> > 
> > Finally, you'll forgive me if I don't accept credentials
> > in psychology as equally valid with regard to critical
> > evaluation of artistic work.
> 
> But since the good Doctor wasn't providing a critical evaluation
> of an artistic work but rather an evaluation of the mind behind the
> work, and the fact that the junkyard dog hasn't seen the work in 
> question, I guess that earns the old mutt another big oopsie.

I'm sure Peter is grateful for your defense; as you've
recognized, he's easily intimidated.

But since he *did* deliver a critical evaluation of the
work in question ("a very sick movie"), and since I *didn't*
mention that work at all, let alone evaluate it (or the
mind behind it), your commentary seems, I don't know, a bit
irrelevant.

> Isn't it amazing how often toothless old mutts hallucinate?

Is that what your problem is, you hallucinated what you're
commenting on? Well, it certainly wouldn't be the first time.



> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > If you can watch the Twin Peaks series and NOT say that son
> > > > > of a bitch is ill in his feeble mind then there is something 
> > > > > seriously wrong with you.
> > > > 
> > > > Must be something wrong with me, then. I thought much of
> > > > "Twin Peaks" was brilliant.
> > > > 
> > > > And it was must-see TV at the time, too, so I had lots of
> > > > company.
> > > > 
> > > > A lot of it was side-splittingly funny. Some of the humor
> > > > was creepy, but dude, this was prime-time network television,
> > > > so obviously it wasn't "ill" enough to make most people
> > > > uncomfortable.
> > > > 
> > > > If it made you uncomfortable, fine, you're entitled. But of
> > > > all the possible descriptions of the mind of the guy
> > > > responsible, "feeble" is about the last one that could
> > > > legitimately be applied.
> > > > 
> > > > IMHO, of course.
> > > >
> > >
> >
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: For MJ and the Turq

2013-06-01 Thread azgrey


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "drpsutphen"  wrote:
> >
> > When Lynch is constrained by a more traditional narrative he
> > does fine with only a little weirdness coming through from
> > time-to-time.
> 
> Well, that wouldn't apply to "Twin Peaks," which was quite
> consistently weird (albeit not always creepy-weird, and
> nowhere near as weird, from what I've read and heard, as
> much of his other work) and most certainly not a
> "traditional" narrative. But (as noted) I thought he did
> more than fine with it.
> 
> > But Judy or Share, have you seen "Eraserhead"? There is no
> > way you can think such a movie comes from a normal mind.
> > This is a very "sick" movie.
> 
> You know, Peter, I don't recall having made a blanket
> endorsement of Lynch's work as coming from a "normal"
> mind. That would be kinda silly of me, having seen only
> "Twin Peaks" and, long ago, "Elephant Man." Here I was 
> commenting only on "Twin Peaks" in response to Michael's
> denunciation thereof.
> 
> I will say, however, generally speaking, I'm not at all
> sure that the most inspired and creative artistic work
> in any medium comes only from "normal" minds. By the same
> token, I don't believe a mind that doesn't qualify as
> "normal" is necessarily "sick." And some arguably "sick"
> minds do indisputably brilliant work (e.g., Van Gogh).
> 
> Finally, you'll forgive me if I don't accept credentials
> in psychology as equally valid with regard to critical
> evaluation of artistic work.


But since the good Doctor wasn't providing a critical evaluation
of an artistic work but rather an evaluation of the mind behind the
work, and the fact that the junkyard dog hasn't seen the work in 
question, I guess that earns the old mutt another big oopsie.

Isn't it amazing how often toothless old mutts hallucinate?


 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > If you can watch the Twin Peaks series and NOT say that son
> > > > of a bitch is ill in his feeble mind then there is something 
> > > > seriously wrong with you.
> > > 
> > > Must be something wrong with me, then. I thought much of
> > > "Twin Peaks" was brilliant.
> > > 
> > > And it was must-see TV at the time, too, so I had lots of
> > > company.
> > > 
> > > A lot of it was side-splittingly funny. Some of the humor
> > > was creepy, but dude, this was prime-time network television,
> > > so obviously it wasn't "ill" enough to make most people
> > > uncomfortable.
> > > 
> > > If it made you uncomfortable, fine, you're entitled. But of
> > > all the possible descriptions of the mind of the guy
> > > responsible, "feeble" is about the last one that could
> > > legitimately be applied.
> > > 
> > > IMHO, of course.
> > >
> >
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: For MJ and the Turq

2013-06-01 Thread sparaig

What of INLAND EMPIRE?

L


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "drpsutphen"  wrote:
>
> When Lynch is constrained by a more traditional narrative he does fine with 
> only a little weirdness coming through from time-to-time. But Judy or Share, 
> have you seen "Eraserhead"? There is no way you can think such a movie comes 
> from a normal mind. This is a very "sick" movie.
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
> > >
> > > If you can watch the Twin Peaks series and NOT say that son
> > > of a bitch is ill in his feeble mind then there is something 
> > > seriously wrong with you.
> > 
> > Must be something wrong with me, then. I thought much of
> > "Twin Peaks" was brilliant.
> > 
> > And it was must-see TV at the time, too, so I had lots of
> > company.
> > 
> > A lot of it was side-splittingly funny. Some of the humor
> > was creepy, but dude, this was prime-time network television,
> > so obviously it wasn't "ill" enough to make most people
> > uncomfortable.
> > 
> > If it made you uncomfortable, fine, you're entitled. But of
> > all the possible descriptions of the mind of the guy
> > responsible, "feeble" is about the last one that could
> > legitimately be applied.
> > 
> > IMHO, of course.
> >
>




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: For MJ and the Turq

2013-06-01 Thread Bhairitu
"Erasehead" is a film about an industrialized post-apocalyptic world.  
Therefore it is a political commentary on the possibility of society 
moving into such a crushing state.  George Lucas's "THX1138" is also a 
film about a post-apocalyptic world.  Neither film would probably sit 
well with some people.  "Erasehead" was embraced by the arts community.  
Lynch was also inspired by Salvadore Dali's 1929 short "Un Chein Andalou":
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0020530/

Sometimes you have to create shocking art to wake up an otherwise 
sleeping public.

On 06/01/2013 01:41 PM, drpsutphen wrote:
> When Lynch is constrained by a more traditional narrative he does fine with 
> only a little weirdness coming through from time-to-time. But Judy or Share, 
> have you seen "Eraserhead"? There is no way you can think such a movie comes 
> from a normal mind. This is a very "sick" movie.
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
>>> If you can watch the Twin Peaks series and NOT say that son
>>> of a bitch is ill in his feeble mind then there is something
>>> seriously wrong with you.
>> Must be something wrong with me, then. I thought much of
>> "Twin Peaks" was brilliant.
>>
>> And it was must-see TV at the time, too, so I had lots of
>> company.
>>
>> A lot of it was side-splittingly funny. Some of the humor
>> was creepy, but dude, this was prime-time network television,
>> so obviously it wasn't "ill" enough to make most people
>> uncomfortable.
>>
>> If it made you uncomfortable, fine, you're entitled. But of
>> all the possible descriptions of the mind of the guy
>> responsible, "feeble" is about the last one that could
>> legitimately be applied.
>>
>> IMHO, of course.
>>
>
>



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: For MJ and the Turq

2013-06-01 Thread Michael Jackson
Yep, quoting a sociopath who did everything for himself and his own pleasure is 
the way to go. But maybe Marshy wasn't a full on sociopath. Maybe he was just a 
dilettante. 




 From: nablusoss1008 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2013 6:01 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: For MJ and the Turq
 


  


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "drpsutphen"  wrote:
>
> When Lynch is constrained by a more traditional narrative he does fine with 
> only a little weirdness coming through from time-to-time. But Judy or Share, 
> have you seen "Eraserhead"? There is no way you can think such a movie comes 
> from a normal mind. This is a very "sick" movie.

That's one of the reasons why Maharishi questioned if pshycology was a science. 
Shrinks have absolutely no idea what is going on in the mind, as you here 
proove.


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: For MJ and the Turq

2013-06-01 Thread nablusoss1008


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "drpsutphen"  wrote:
>
> When Lynch is constrained by a more traditional narrative he does fine with 
> only a little weirdness coming through from time-to-time. But Judy or Share, 
> have you seen "Eraserhead"? There is no way you can think such a movie comes 
> from a normal mind. This is a very "sick" movie.

That's one of the reasons why Maharishi questioned if pshycology was a science. 
Shrinks have absolutely no idea what is going on in the mind, as you here 
proove.



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: For MJ and the Turq

2013-06-01 Thread Michael Jackson
Steven Spielberg
Larry McMurtry
Jo Rowling
Frederick Remington
Nora Ephron
James Bama

Just a few of the great artists of our time who are not screwed up in the head. 
The idea that you have to be fucked up to be a creative genius is as solid as 
the idea that group practice of TMSP is gonna save the world. Notice how 
adroitly I revile TM as I make my point about almost anything else. 

Disclaimer: Such creativity on my part was not cultivated through TM practice. 






 From: authfriend 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2013 5:42 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: For MJ and the Turq
 


  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "drpsutphen"  wrote:
>
> When Lynch is constrained by a more traditional narrative he
> does fine with only a little weirdness coming through from
> time-to-time.

Well, that wouldn't apply to "Twin Peaks," which was quite
consistently weird (albeit not always creepy-weird, and
nowhere near as weird, from what I've read and heard, as
much of his other work) and most certainly not a
"traditional" narrative. But (as noted) I thought he did
more than fine with it.

> But Judy or Share, have you seen "Eraserhead"? There is no
> way you can think such a movie comes from a normal mind.
> This is a very "sick" movie.

You know, Peter, I don't recall having made a blanket
endorsement of Lynch's work as coming from a "normal"
mind. That would be kinda silly of me, having seen only
"Twin Peaks" and, long ago, "Elephant Man." Here I was 
commenting only on "Twin Peaks" in response to Michael's
denunciation thereof.

I will say, however, generally speaking, I'm not at all
sure that the most inspired and creative artistic work
in any medium comes only from "normal" minds. By the same
token, I don't believe a mind that doesn't qualify as
"normal" is necessarily "sick." And some arguably "sick"
minds do indisputably brilliant work (e.g., Van Gogh).

Finally, you'll forgive me if I don't accept credentials
in psychology as equally valid with regard to critical
evaluation of artistic work.

> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
> > >
> > > If you can watch the Twin Peaks series and NOT say that son
> > > of a bitch is ill in his feeble mind then there is something 
> > > seriously wrong with you.
> > 
> > Must be something wrong with me, then. I thought much of
> > "Twin Peaks" was brilliant.
> > 
> > And it was must-see TV at the time, too, so I had lots of
> > company.
> > 
> > A lot of it was side-splittingly funny. Some of the humor
> > was creepy, but dude, this was prime-time network television,
> > so obviously it wasn't "ill" enough to make most people
> > uncomfortable.
> > 
> > If it made you uncomfortable, fine, you're entitled. But of
> > all the possible descriptions of the mind of the guy
> > responsible, "feeble" is about the last one that could
> > legitimately be applied.
> > 
> > IMHO, of course.
> >
>


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: For MJ and the Turq

2013-06-01 Thread Michael Jackson
Lynch wishes he could do something as fine as Firefly.





 From: turquoiseb 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2013 4:20 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: For MJ and the Turq
 


  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "PaliGap"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > If you can watch the Twin Peaks series and NOT say that son
> > > > of a bitch is ill in his feeble mind then there is something 
> > > > seriously wrong with you.
> > > 
> > > Must be something wrong with me, then. I thought much of
> > > "Twin Peaks" was brilliant.
> > 
> > Some comments require no response, because not only is 
> > one not necessary, it would detract from what the poster
> > in question already said.  :-)
> > 
> > So I will merely repost Alex's comment on the subject,
> > which kinda says it all:
> > 
> > http://youtu.be/QdO9orWQ-Nk
> 
> You know I tried. I really DID try. Just couldn't *get* it.
> 
> http://youtu.be/-wGcFofX7Hc

:-) Point taken. There is no accounting for taste.

However, a decade or so from now, while y'all are 
still trying to distance yourselves from ever having
confessed to having liked "Twin Peaks," I'll bet that 
I'll still be proud of having 'gotten' "Firefly" 
first time around.  :-)


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: For MJ and the Turq

2013-06-01 Thread Michael Jackson
Oh I admit it is well made, and the actors (most of them were quite good) but 
the abuse and murder of women that seem to be a theme in his films was not to 
my taste - not to mention the irony of:

1 - Marshy and the TM leaders and the even low level governors who for YEARS 
have talked about how we need to be careful what we watch, what we think, what 
we say, what kind of energy we are putting out and "entertaining" - in other 
words not to "entertain" negativity by exposing oneself to it and by the way 
Big Bopper Bevan used to expound on such themes in staff meetings at MIU and 
here this ass Lynch who claims TM gave him the creativity to make the films is 
pumping out negativity at a phenomenal rate and don't bother to tell me that 
you don't think the films express negativity because by Movement standards his 
films are loaded with it.

2 - The irony of the Movement not allowing his films like Eraserhead, Blue 
Velvet and Twin Peaks to be shown at any of their facilities, yet praising the 
bastard for what a great filmmaker he is. Typical Movement hypocrisy.

For the record, I reviled Lynch when I first saw a few episodes of Twin Peaks, 
not knowing he was a meditator. When a TM friend in Kentucky told me that not 
only was Lynch an ardent TM'er, he had been meditating long before he made Twin 
Peaks, I thought he was out of his mind.





 From: authfriend 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2013 1:46 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: For MJ and the Turq
 


  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
>
> If you can watch the Twin Peaks series and NOT say that son
> of a bitch is ill in his feeble mind then there is something 
> seriously wrong with you.

Must be something wrong with me, then. I thought much of
"Twin Peaks" was brilliant.

And it was must-see TV at the time, too, so I had lots of
company.

A lot of it was side-splittingly funny. Some of the humor
was creepy, but dude, this was prime-time network television,
so obviously it wasn't "ill" enough to make most people
uncomfortable.

If it made you uncomfortable, fine, you're entitled. But of
all the possible descriptions of the mind of the guy
responsible, "feeble" is about the last one that could
legitimately be applied.

IMHO, of course.


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: For MJ and the Turq

2013-06-01 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "drpsutphen"  wrote:
>
> When Lynch is constrained by a more traditional narrative he
> does fine with only a little weirdness coming through from
> time-to-time.

Well, that wouldn't apply to "Twin Peaks," which was quite
consistently weird (albeit not always creepy-weird, and
nowhere near as weird, from what I've read and heard, as
much of his other work) and most certainly not a
"traditional" narrative. But (as noted) I thought he did
more than fine with it.

> But Judy or Share, have you seen "Eraserhead"? There is no
> way you can think such a movie comes from a normal mind.
> This is a very "sick" movie.

You know, Peter, I don't recall having made a blanket
endorsement of Lynch's work as coming from a "normal"
mind. That would be kinda silly of me, having seen only
"Twin Peaks" and, long ago, "Elephant Man." Here I was 
commenting only on "Twin Peaks" in response to Michael's
denunciation thereof.

I will say, however, generally speaking, I'm not at all
sure that the most inspired and creative artistic work
in any medium comes only from "normal" minds. By the same
token, I don't believe a mind that doesn't qualify as
"normal" is necessarily "sick." And some arguably "sick"
minds do indisputably brilliant work (e.g., Van Gogh).

Finally, you'll forgive me if I don't accept credentials
in psychology as equally valid with regard to critical
evaluation of artistic work.




> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
> > >
> > > If you can watch the Twin Peaks series and NOT say that son
> > > of a bitch is ill in his feeble mind then there is something 
> > > seriously wrong with you.
> > 
> > Must be something wrong with me, then. I thought much of
> > "Twin Peaks" was brilliant.
> > 
> > And it was must-see TV at the time, too, so I had lots of
> > company.
> > 
> > A lot of it was side-splittingly funny. Some of the humor
> > was creepy, but dude, this was prime-time network television,
> > so obviously it wasn't "ill" enough to make most people
> > uncomfortable.
> > 
> > If it made you uncomfortable, fine, you're entitled. But of
> > all the possible descriptions of the mind of the guy
> > responsible, "feeble" is about the last one that could
> > legitimately be applied.
> > 
> > IMHO, of course.
> >
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: For MJ and the Turq

2013-06-01 Thread drpsutphen
When Lynch is constrained by a more traditional narrative he does fine with 
only a little weirdness coming through from time-to-time. But Judy or Share, 
have you seen "Eraserhead"? There is no way you can think such a movie comes 
from a normal mind. This is a very "sick" movie.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
> >
> > If you can watch the Twin Peaks series and NOT say that son
> > of a bitch is ill in his feeble mind then there is something 
> > seriously wrong with you.
> 
> Must be something wrong with me, then. I thought much of
> "Twin Peaks" was brilliant.
> 
> And it was must-see TV at the time, too, so I had lots of
> company.
> 
> A lot of it was side-splittingly funny. Some of the humor
> was creepy, but dude, this was prime-time network television,
> so obviously it wasn't "ill" enough to make most people
> uncomfortable.
> 
> If it made you uncomfortable, fine, you're entitled. But of
> all the possible descriptions of the mind of the guy
> responsible, "feeble" is about the last one that could
> legitimately be applied.
> 
> IMHO, of course.
>




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: For MJ and the Turq

2013-06-01 Thread Bhairitu
I saw that movie last year.  I thought it was a pretty good zombie flic.

On 06/01/2013 12:52 PM, sparaig wrote:
> A friend of mine, Rob Freeman, worked on a zombie movie in Africa (the first, 
> last and only zombie movie shot in deepest Africa for many reasons) which you 
> may find interesting:
>
> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1386925/
>
> The story behind the movie is quite amazing.
>
> Rob ended up in a broom closet in a local hospital, lying on a spare table 
> for several weeks with malaria, for example.
> The crew had to bribe the local highway men every day in order to get to the 
> shooting site.
>
> Etc.
>
> L
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>
>> I'm a big fan of Lynch's films though not because he is a meditator.
>> But then I also like zombie films too.  I like dark, edgy films because
>> they are stimulating.  I like Jennifer Lynch's films too as they are
>> often even more edgier than her father's.
>>
>> That said, I've watched a few of the new episodes "Arrested
>> Development".  I had tried to watch some of the old episodes first but
>> they seemed a little muted being for broadcast television.  Then new
>> ones I find funnier and the third one has to do with Linsey going off to
>> India which had some good jokes in it.
>>
>> I mentioned the John Frankenheimer film "99 and 44/100 % Dead" last week
>> as a film that had been shot in Seattle in the early 1970s and I had
>> watched one scene being shot at an abandoned school in the University
>> District.  Yesterday my DVD of the movie arrived so I watched it last
>> night.  I remember it got panned by the critics and I think the problem
>> was the editing because some scenes run a little longer than needed. I
>> might make a good movie for a film class to edit.
>>
>
>



[FairfieldLife] Re: For MJ and the Turq

2013-06-01 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "PaliGap"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > If you can watch the Twin Peaks series and NOT say that son
> > > > of a bitch is ill in his feeble mind then there is something 
> > > > seriously wrong with you.
> > > 
> > > Must be something wrong with me, then. I thought much of
> > > "Twin Peaks" was brilliant.
> > 
> > Some comments require no response, because not only is 
> > one not necessary, it would detract from what the poster
> > in question already said.  :-)
> > 
> > So I will merely repost Alex's comment on the subject,
> > which kinda says it all:
> > 
> > http://youtu.be/QdO9orWQ-Nk
> 
> You know I tried. I really DID try. Just couldn't *get* it.
> 
> http://youtu.be/-wGcFofX7Hc

:-) Point taken. There is no accounting for taste.

However, a decade or so from now, while y'all are 
still trying to distance yourselves from ever having
confessed to having liked "Twin Peaks," I'll bet that 
I'll still be proud of having 'gotten' "Firefly" 
first time around.  :-)





[FairfieldLife] Re: For MJ and the Turq

2013-06-01 Thread PaliGap


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
> > >
> > > If you can watch the Twin Peaks series and NOT say that son
> > > of a bitch is ill in his feeble mind then there is something 
> > > seriously wrong with you.
> > 
> > Must be something wrong with me, then. I thought much of
> > "Twin Peaks" was brilliant.
> 
> Some comments require no response, because not only is 
> one not necessary, it would detract from what the poster
> in question already said.  :-)
> 
> So I will merely repost Alex's comment on the subject,
> which kinda says it all:
> 
> http://youtu.be/QdO9orWQ-Nk

You know I tried. I really DID try. Just couldn't *get* it.

http://youtu.be/-wGcFofX7Hc




[FairfieldLife] Re: For MJ and the Turq

2013-06-01 Thread sparaig
A friend of mine, Rob Freeman, worked on a zombie movie in Africa (the first, 
last and only zombie movie shot in deepest Africa for many reasons) which you 
may find interesting:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1386925/

The story behind the movie is quite amazing.

Rob ended up in a broom closet in a local hospital, lying on a spare table for 
several weeks with malaria, for example.
The crew had to bribe the local highway men every day in order to get to the 
shooting site.

Etc.

L

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:

> I'm a big fan of Lynch's films though not because he is a meditator.  
> But then I also like zombie films too.  I like dark, edgy films because 
> they are stimulating.  I like Jennifer Lynch's films too as they are 
> often even more edgier than her father's.
> 
> That said, I've watched a few of the new episodes "Arrested 
> Development".  I had tried to watch some of the old episodes first but 
> they seemed a little muted being for broadcast television.  Then new 
> ones I find funnier and the third one has to do with Linsey going off to 
> India which had some good jokes in it.
> 
> I mentioned the John Frankenheimer film "99 and 44/100 % Dead" last week 
> as a film that had been shot in Seattle in the early 1970s and I had 
> watched one scene being shot at an abandoned school in the University 
> District.  Yesterday my DVD of the movie arrived so I watched it last 
> night.  I remember it got panned by the critics and I think the problem 
> was the editing because some scenes run a little longer than needed. I 
> might make a good movie for a film class to edit.
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: For MJ and the Turq

2013-06-01 Thread PaliGap
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
>
> If you can watch the Twin Peaks series and NOT say that son of a
> bitch is ill in his feeble mind then there is something seriously
> wrong with you.

Proud to be in the legions you decry. Loved it (well series one
anyway). 

http://youtu.be/RFPLk5mJ1D4



[FairfieldLife] Re: For MJ and the Turq

2013-06-01 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
> >
> > If you can watch the Twin Peaks series and NOT say that son
> > of a bitch is ill in his feeble mind then there is something 
> > seriously wrong with you.
> 
> Must be something wrong with me, then. I thought much of
> "Twin Peaks" was brilliant.

Some comments require no response, because not only is 
one not necessary, it would detract from what the poster
in question already said.  :-)

So I will merely repost Alex's comment on the subject,
which kinda says it all:

http://youtu.be/QdO9orWQ-Nk





[FairfieldLife] Re: For MJ and the Turq

2013-06-01 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
>
> If you can watch the Twin Peaks series and NOT say that son
> of a bitch is ill in his feeble mind then there is something 
> seriously wrong with you.

Must be something wrong with me, then. I thought much of
"Twin Peaks" was brilliant.

And it was must-see TV at the time, too, so I had lots of
company.

A lot of it was side-splittingly funny. Some of the humor
was creepy, but dude, this was prime-time network television,
so obviously it wasn't "ill" enough to make most people
uncomfortable.

If it made you uncomfortable, fine, you're entitled. But of
all the possible descriptions of the mind of the guy
responsible, "feeble" is about the last one that could
legitimately be applied.

IMHO, of course.





[FairfieldLife] Re: For MJ and the Turq

2013-06-01 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams"  wrote:
>
> Share Long:
> > Check out post #336439 in which turq praises both 
> > Dune and The Straight Story...
> >
> Share, if Judy is for it, Barry is against it.

I haven't seen either of these films.


 It's 
> that simple, even if it involves cognitive dissonance,
> and Barry likes it that way: totally confused.
> 
> > Maybe he's having too much cognitive dissonance over 
> > the fact that we both like the latter.
> 
> You think? LoL!
> 
> Barry believes in a soul-monad that reincarnates
> after death, to be re-born inside another body at
> some future date, after spending ten days in the
> 'Bardo', but Barry claims to be an atheist. 
> 
> Can you figure that one?
> 
> > > > I've only seen Elephant Man which I found deeply moving, 
> > > > and The Straight Story which I enjoyed for its simplicity, 
> > > > quirkiness and sweetness. No extra showering needed in 
> > > > either case.
>




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: For MJ and the Turq

2013-06-01 Thread Bhairitu
On 06/01/2013 04:54 AM, turquoiseb wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>> I've only seen Elephant Man which I found deeply moving,
>> and The Straight Story which I enjoyed for its simplicity,
>> quirkiness and sweetness. No extra showering needed in
>> either case.
> Then you aren't qualified to talk about David Lynch
> AT ALL, are you?
>
> Try this scene from "Blue Velvet" on for size. Then
> come back and tell us it made you feel all TM-blissy
> and warm and fuzzy inside. The actress, by the way,
> was engaged to Lynch at the time. Do you wonder why
> she called off the marriage?
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QTlPkr8odQ
>
> Please explain to us which SCI tape the spiritual
> lesson conveyed by Dennis Hopper sniffing amyl nitrate
> and moaning "Mommy" while threatening a woman comes
> from. I think I must have missed that part.
>
> If anyone complains about this clip being posted here,
> please remember that the film was written and directed
> by TM's Number One Poster Boy and take your complaints
> to them.
>

I'm a big fan of Lynch's films though not because he is a meditator.  
But then I also like zombie films too.  I like dark, edgy films because 
they are stimulating.  I like Jennifer Lynch's films too as they are 
often even more edgier than her father's.

That said, I've watched a few of the new episodes "Arrested 
Development".  I had tried to watch some of the old episodes first but 
they seemed a little muted being for broadcast television.  Then new 
ones I find funnier and the third one has to do with Linsey going off to 
India which had some good jokes in it.

I mentioned the John Frankenheimer film "99 and 44/100 % Dead" last week 
as a film that had been shot in Seattle in the early 1970s and I had 
watched one scene being shot at an abandoned school in the University 
District.  Yesterday my DVD of the movie arrived so I watched it last 
night.  I remember it got panned by the critics and I think the problem 
was the editing because some scenes run a little longer than needed. I 
might make a good movie for a film class to edit.




[FairfieldLife] Re: For MJ and the Turq

2013-06-01 Thread Richard J. Williams
Share Long:
> Check out post #336439 in which turq praises both 
> Dune and The Straight Story...
>
Share, if Judy is for it, Barry is against it. It's 
that simple, even if it involves cognitive dissonance,
and Barry likes it that way: totally confused.

> Maybe he's having too much cognitive dissonance over 
> the fact that we both like the latter.

You think? LoL!

Barry believes in a soul-monad that reincarnates
after death, to be re-born inside another body at
some future date, after spending ten days in the
'Bardo', but Barry claims to be an atheist. 

Can you figure that one?

> > > I've only seen Elephant Man which I found deeply moving, 
> > > and The Straight Story which I enjoyed for its simplicity, 
> > > quirkiness and sweetness. No extra showering needed in 
> > > either case.




[FairfieldLife] Re: For MJ and the Turq

2013-06-01 Thread Richard J. Williams


mjackson74:
> For the record, I was at MIU kitchen services 
> from 1985 - 1987...
> 
So, you went all the way to Iowa to work for a 
religious school, for free, working as a busboy 
and a waiter; then baked bread for two years; 
tried to fly inside a golden dome; and failed to 
complete a single course at school - not even a 
basic English or History course or even a single
course in Management; but I'm the 'opium dreamer'? 

Go figure.

> So go back to the hooka pipe Richey, or the peyote 
> smoker - I figure that's where you get all your opium 
> dreams from to begin with.
> 

> > If you can watch the Twin Peaks series and 
> > NOT say that son of a bitch is ill in his 
> > feeble mind then there is something seriously 
> > wrong with you.
> > 
> You're the guy that supports MMY's GMO hoax
> and baked the GM bread for two years without
> completing a single course at MUM, but David 
> Lynch has something terrible wrong with him? 
> 
> Go figure. 
> 
> > > > I've only seen Elephant Man which I found deeply moving, 
> > > > and The Straight Story which I enjoyed for its simplicity, 
> > > > quirkiness and sweetness. No extra showering needed in 
> > > > either case.
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: For MJ and the Turq

2013-06-01 Thread doctordumbass
I can accept that - I am kind of shallow when it comes to movies, vastly 
preferring comedies, action, and adventure, to the more serious stuff. Having 
said that, when someone drags me to watch something more serious, I generally 
enjoy it. Looking forward to Iron Man 3!!

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> >
> > His stuff mostly looks like dreams I don't want to have. Could be worse, I 
> > suppose, if the big, worldly TMO supporter was someone like Donald Strumpet 
> > - He'd probably start wearing a dhoti, and ascribing Sidha-like powers to 
> > his *hair*.
> 
> 
> I was a Lynch-fan 30 years before I heard he was doing TM. His films 
> certainly dive deep into the filthy underground where showers are needed, a 
> world inhabitated by people struggelig with overcoming inner and outer demons 
> in an attempt to move towards towards light and love. 
> 
> There is an enormous amount of respect for the struggle of humans in their 
> quest for dignity in his films which is very moving. Then ofcourse there is 
> his revolutionary way of using clipping, music and camera, but thats surface 
> values compared to the content. 
> 
> That's what millions of Lynch-fans have discovered and cherish, and that's 
> what have escaped the majority of posters on this forum.
> 
> 
>  
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen  wrote:
> > >
> > > Ha ha! Whenever I see a David Lynch film I feel like I need to take a 
> > > shower. Has anyone in the TMO seen his films? I kind of doubt it!
> > >
> >
>




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: For MJ and the Turq

2013-06-01 Thread Share Long
Hey Nabby, I might get into archiving.  Check out post # 336439 in which turq 
praises both Dune and The Straight Story.  Maybe he's having too much cognitive 
dissonance over the fact that we both like the latter.  And he certainly has 
not in person been around any bliss ninnies recently if he thinks I'm one!  
Anyway, thanks for the Eraserhead recommendation.  And Lawson thanks for 
passing along what Lynch said about Dune.  I read Dune years ago but would not 
have described it with the word heartbreak.  So his comment makes me think more 
deeply about it.





 From: nablusoss1008 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2013 7:10 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: For MJ and the Turq
 


  


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> >
> > I've only seen Elephant Man which I found deeply moving, 
> > and The Straight Story which I enjoyed for its simplicity, 
> > quirkiness and sweetness. No extra showering needed in 
> > either case.

Share, do see Eraserhead. It's considered one of his most intriguing films and 
the film Lynch himself most "spiritual" 

> 
> Then you aren't qualified to talk about David Lynch
> AT ALL, are you? 

And nor is the Turq.

Don't worry about the Turq, Share. He doesn't "get" films without a plot or 
where deeper emotions are involved.

He certainly has some nerve commeting on anything regarding Lynch, having 
labelled it "sick". In another post he admitted to not understanding anything 
of what the David Lynch universe is all about. 

The Turq is certainly not qualified to talk about the films of David Lynch 
since he has no clue to what they are all about. What an utter fool.


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: For MJ and the Turq

2013-06-01 Thread Michael Jackson
Of all the asses on FFL you take the cake Richy. Not only are you incorrect but 
your assertions are just plain stupid. I have a good mind to ask Ravi to savage 
you since he flames people here better than anyone in my opinion.

First you accuse me of ever having been at MIU to begin with, now you claim I 
was there, and doing evil things. For the record, I was at MIU kitchen services 
from 1985 - 1987. There was no GM wheat, rye or buckwheat on the market at that 
time, nor is there any GM wheat today, at least none that is legal. Therefore 
your assertion that I baked GM bread is not only idiotic but it is also 
incorrect.

As to GM crops themselves, anyone with a brain can see it is a marketing 
strategy for an enormous chemical company that wants to rule the world. If you 
think its cool for one company to rule the worlds food supply, you must still 
be doing hallucinogenic drugs. Being against GM crops is the one thing that 
Nabby and I agree on. 

So go back to the hooka pipe Richey, or the peyote smoker - I figure that's 
where you get all your opium dreams from to begin with.





 From: Richard J. Williams 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2013 10:29 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: For MJ and the Turq
 


  
mjackson74:
> If you can watch the Twin Peaks series and 
> NOT say that son of a bitch is ill in his 
> feeble mind then there is something seriously 
> wrong with you.
> 
You're the guy that supports MMY's GMO hoax
and baked the GM bread for two years without
completing a single course at MUM, but David 
Lynch has something terrible wrong with him? 

Go figure. 

> > > I've only seen Elephant Man which I found deeply moving, 
> > > and The Straight Story which I enjoyed for its simplicity, 
> > > quirkiness and sweetness. No extra showering needed in 
> > > either case.


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: For MJ and the Turq

2013-06-01 Thread Richard J. Williams
mjackson74:
> If you can watch the Twin Peaks series and 
> NOT say that son of a bitch is ill in his 
> feeble mind then there is something seriously 
> wrong with you.
> 
You're the guy that supports MMY's GMO hoax
and baked the GM bread for two years without
completing a single course at MUM, but David 
Lynch has something terrible wrong with him? 

Go figure.  
 
> > > I've only seen Elephant Man which I found deeply moving, 
> > > and The Straight Story which I enjoyed for its simplicity, 
> > > quirkiness and sweetness. No extra showering needed in 
> > > either case.




[FairfieldLife] Re: For MJ and the Turq

2013-06-01 Thread nablusoss1008


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
>
> If you can watch the Twin Peaks series and NOT say that son of a bitch is ill 
> in his feeble mind then there is something seriously wrong with you.


You and Peter should team up. He could supply you with limitless medication and 
every eveing you could discuss the horribleness of Lynch. A perfect match.



> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> > >ake the
> > > I've only seen Elephant Man which I found deeply moving, 
> > > and The Straight Story which I enjoyed for its simplicity, 
> > > quirkiness and sweetness. No extra showering needed in 
> > > either case.
> 
> Share, do see Eraserhead. It's considered one of his most intriguing films 
> and the film Lynch himself most "spiritual" 
> 
> > 
> > Then you aren't qualified to talk about David Lynch
> > AT ALL, are you? 
> 
> And nor is the Turq.
> 
> Don't worry about the Turq, Share. He doesn't "get" films without a plot or 
> where deeper emotions are involved.
> 
> He certainly has some nerve commeting on anything regarding Lynch, having 
> labelled it "sick". In another post he admitted to not understanding anything 
> of what the David Lynch universe is all about. 
> 
> The Turq is certainly not qualified to talk about the films of David Lynch 
> since he has no clue to what they are all about. What an utter fool.
>




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: For MJ and the Turq

2013-06-01 Thread Michael Jackson
If you can watch the Twin Peaks series and NOT say that son of a bitch is ill 
in his feeble mind then there is something seriously wrong with you.





 From: nablusoss1008 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2013 8:10 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: For MJ and the Turq
 


  


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> >
> > I've only seen Elephant Man which I found deeply moving, 
> > and The Straight Story which I enjoyed for its simplicity, 
> > quirkiness and sweetness. No extra showering needed in 
> > either case.

Share, do see Eraserhead. It's considered one of his most intriguing films and 
the film Lynch himself most "spiritual" 

> 
> Then you aren't qualified to talk about David Lynch
> AT ALL, are you? 

And nor is the Turq.

Don't worry about the Turq, Share. He doesn't "get" films without a plot or 
where deeper emotions are involved.

He certainly has some nerve commeting on anything regarding Lynch, having 
labelled it "sick". In another post he admitted to not understanding anything 
of what the David Lynch universe is all about. 

The Turq is certainly not qualified to talk about the films of David Lynch 
since he has no clue to what they are all about. What an utter fool.


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: For MJ and the Turq

2013-06-01 Thread nablusoss1008


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@...  wrote:
>
> His stuff mostly looks like dreams I don't want to have. Could be worse, I 
> suppose, if the big, worldly TMO supporter was someone like Donald Strumpet - 
> He'd probably start wearing a dhoti, and ascribing Sidha-like powers to his 
> *hair*.


I was a Lynch-fan 30 years before I heard he was doing TM. His films certainly 
dive deep into the filthy underground where showers are needed, a world 
inhabitated by people struggelig with overcoming inner and outer demons in an 
attempt to move towards towards light and love. 

There is an enormous amount of respect for the struggle of humans in their 
quest for dignity in his films which is very moving. Then ofcourse there is his 
revolutionary way of using clipping, music and camera, but thats surface values 
compared to the content. 

That's what millions of Lynch-fans have discovered and cherish, and that's what 
have escaped the majority of posters on this forum.


 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen  wrote:
> >
> > Ha ha! Whenever I see a David Lynch film I feel like I need to take a 
> > shower. Has anyone in the TMO seen his films? I kind of doubt it!
> >
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: For MJ and the Turq

2013-06-01 Thread nablusoss1008


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> >
> > I've only seen Elephant Man which I found deeply moving, 
> > and The Straight Story which I enjoyed for its simplicity, 
> > quirkiness and sweetness. No extra showering needed in 
> > either case.


Share, do see Eraserhead. It's considered one of his most intriguing films and 
the film Lynch himself most "spiritual" 


> 
> Then you aren't qualified to talk about David Lynch
> AT ALL, are you? 

And nor is the Turq.


Don't worry about the Turq, Share. He doesn't "get" films without a plot or 
where deeper emotions are involved.

He certainly has some nerve commeting on anything regarding Lynch, having 
labelled it "sick". In another post he admitted to not understanding anything 
of what the David Lynch universe is all about. 

The Turq is certainly not qualified to talk about the films of David Lynch 
since he has no clue to what they are all about. What an utter fool.



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: For MJ and the Turq

2013-06-01 Thread Share Long
turq, to quote you back to yourself:  don't be an ass.  First of all, the 
movies of his I mentioned were not TM blissy nor were my comments about them.  
Duh!  And why would anyone complain about the clip?  One is free to watch or 
not watch.    





 From: turquoiseb 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2013 6:54 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: For MJ and the Turq
 


  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>
> I've only seen Elephant Man which I found deeply moving, 
> and The Straight Story which I enjoyed for its simplicity, 
> quirkiness and sweetness. No extra showering needed in 
> either case.

Then you aren't qualified to talk about David Lynch
AT ALL, are you? 

Try this scene from "Blue Velvet" on for size. Then
come back and tell us it made you feel all TM-blissy
and warm and fuzzy inside. The actress, by the way, 
was engaged to Lynch at the time. Do you wonder why 
she called off the marriage?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QTlPkr8odQ

Please explain to us which SCI tape the spiritual 
lesson conveyed by Dennis Hopper sniffing amyl nitrate
and moaning "Mommy" while threatening a woman comes
from. I think I must have missed that part. 

If anyone complains about this clip being posted here,
please remember that the film was written and directed
by TM's Number One Poster Boy and take your complaints
to them. 

> 
>  From: Peter Sutphen 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2013 6:25 AM
> Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: For MJ and the Turq
> 
> Ha ha! Whenever I see a David Lynch film I feel like I need to take a shower. 
> Has anyone in the TMO seen his films? I kind of doubt it! 
> 
> ____________________
>  From:  doctordumbass@... ; 
> To:  ; 
> Subject:  [FairfieldLife] Re: For MJ and the Turq 
> Sent:  Sat, Jun 1, 2013 1:41:22 AM 
> 
> A slippery slope, Dr. Pete. Next, you'll be proclaiming that a crucifix, 
> submerged in the artist's *own* urine, is not high art. Or, that Yoko Ono is 
> not one of the world's greatest vocalists. Or even that Kim Kardashian, Joan 
> Rivers, and Bruce Jenner, are not three of the most beautiful women you have 
> ever seen. It hurts me.
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "drpsutphen"  wrote:
> >
> > Such ridiculous crap. 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > More "sick" and "twisted" stuff from David Lynch. 
> > > 
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bgoRGqHwBE
> > >
> >
>


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: For MJ and the Turq

2013-06-01 Thread doctordumbass
"...explain to us.." You, and whose army in your head? Or are Curtis, Vaj and 
others who never post here, but often agreed with you, included in your fantasy?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> >
> > I've only seen Elephant Man which I found deeply moving, 
> > and The Straight Story which I enjoyed for its simplicity, 
> > quirkiness and sweetness. No extra showering needed in 
> > either case.
> 
> Then you aren't qualified to talk about David Lynch
> AT ALL, are you? 
> 
> Try this scene from "Blue Velvet" on for size. Then
> come back and tell us it made you feel all TM-blissy
> and warm and fuzzy inside. The actress, by the way, 
> was engaged to Lynch at the time. Do you wonder why 
> she called off the marriage?
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QTlPkr8odQ
> 
> Please explain to us which SCI tape the spiritual 
> lesson conveyed by Dennis Hopper sniffing amyl nitrate
> and moaning "Mommy" while threatening a woman comes
> from. I think I must have missed that part. 
> 
> If anyone complains about this clip being posted here,
> please remember that the film was written and directed
> by TM's Number One Poster Boy and take your complaints
> to them. 
> 
> 
> > ____________________
> >  From: Peter Sutphen 
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2013 6:25 AM
> > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: For MJ and the Turq
> >  
> > Ha ha! Whenever I see a David Lynch film I feel like I need to take a 
> > shower. Has anyone in the TMO seen his films? I kind of doubt it!  
> > 
> > 
> >  From:  doctordumbass@ ; 
> > To:  ; 
> > Subject:  [FairfieldLife] Re: For MJ and the Turq 
> > Sent:  Sat, Jun 1, 2013 1:41:22 AM 
> > 
> > A slippery slope, Dr. Pete. Next, you'll be proclaiming that a crucifix, 
> > submerged in the artist's *own* urine, is not high art. Or, that Yoko Ono 
> > is not one of the world's greatest vocalists. Or even that Kim Kardashian, 
> > Joan Rivers, and Bruce Jenner, are not three of the most beautiful women 
> > you have ever seen. It hurts me.
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "drpsutphen"  wrote:
> > >
> > > Such ridiculous crap. 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > More "sick" and "twisted" stuff from David Lynch. 
> > > > 
> > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bgoRGqHwBE
> > > >
> > >
> >
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: For MJ and the Turq

2013-06-01 Thread doctordumbass
His stuff mostly looks like dreams I don't want to have. Could be worse, I 
suppose, if the big, worldly TMO supporter was someone like Donald Strumpet - 
He'd probably start wearing a dhoti, and ascribing Sidha-like powers to his 
*hair*.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen  wrote:
>
> Ha ha! Whenever I see a David Lynch film I feel like I need to take a shower. 
> Has anyone in the TMO seen his films? I kind of doubt it!
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: For MJ and the Turq

2013-06-01 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>
> I've only seen Elephant Man which I found deeply moving, 
> and The Straight Story which I enjoyed for its simplicity, 
> quirkiness and sweetness. No extra showering needed in 
> either case.

Then you aren't qualified to talk about David Lynch
AT ALL, are you? 

Try this scene from "Blue Velvet" on for size. Then
come back and tell us it made you feel all TM-blissy
and warm and fuzzy inside. The actress, by the way, 
was engaged to Lynch at the time. Do you wonder why 
she called off the marriage?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QTlPkr8odQ

Please explain to us which SCI tape the spiritual 
lesson conveyed by Dennis Hopper sniffing amyl nitrate
and moaning "Mommy" while threatening a woman comes
from. I think I must have missed that part. 

If anyone complains about this clip being posted here,
please remember that the film was written and directed
by TM's Number One Poster Boy and take your complaints
to them. 


> 
>  From: Peter Sutphen 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2013 6:25 AM
> Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: For MJ and the Turq
>  
> Ha ha! Whenever I see a David Lynch film I feel like I need to take a shower. 
> Has anyone in the TMO seen his films? I kind of doubt it!  
> 
> ________________
>  From:  doctordumbass@... ; 
> To:  ; 
> Subject:  [FairfieldLife] Re: For MJ and the Turq 
> Sent:  Sat, Jun 1, 2013 1:41:22 AM 
> 
> A slippery slope, Dr. Pete. Next, you'll be proclaiming that a crucifix, 
> submerged in the artist's *own* urine, is not high art. Or, that Yoko Ono is 
> not one of the world's greatest vocalists. Or even that Kim Kardashian, Joan 
> Rivers, and Bruce Jenner, are not three of the most beautiful women you have 
> ever seen. It hurts me.
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "drpsutphen"  wrote:
> >
> > Such ridiculous crap. 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > More "sick" and "twisted" stuff from David Lynch. 
> > > 
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bgoRGqHwBE
> > >
> >
>




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: For MJ and the Turq

2013-06-01 Thread Share Long
I've only seen Elephant Man which I found deeply moving, and The Straight Story 
which I enjoyed for its simplicity, quirkiness and sweetness.  No extra 
showering needed in either case.  





 From: Peter Sutphen 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2013 6:25 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: For MJ and the Turq
 


  
Ha ha! Whenever I see a David Lynch film I feel like I need to take a shower. 
Has anyone in the TMO seen his films? I kind of doubt it!  




 From:  doctordumb...@rocketmail.com ; 
To:  ; 
Subject:  [FairfieldLife] Re: For MJ and the Turq 
Sent:  Sat, Jun 1, 2013 1:41:22 AM 


  
A slippery slope, Dr. Pete. Next, you'll be proclaiming that a crucifix, 
submerged in the artist's *own* urine, is not high art. Or, that Yoko Ono is 
not one of the world's greatest vocalists. Or even that Kim Kardashian, Joan 
Rivers, and Bruce Jenner, are not three of the most beautiful women you have 
ever seen. It hurts me.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "drpsutphen"  wrote:
>
> Such ridiculous crap. 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > More "sick" and "twisted" stuff from David Lynch. 
> > 
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bgoRGqHwBE
> >
>

 
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: For MJ and the Turq

2013-06-01 Thread Peter Sutphen
Ha ha! Whenever I see a David Lynch film I feel like I need to take a shower. 
Has anyone in the TMO seen his films? I kind of doubt it! 

[FairfieldLife] Re: For MJ and the Turq

2013-06-01 Thread nablusoss1008


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "drpsutphen"  wrote:
>
> Such ridiculous crap.


Do you feel better now ?

 
 
> > More "sick" and "twisted" stuff from David Lynch. 
> >  
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bgoRGqHwBE
> >
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: For MJ and the Turq

2013-05-31 Thread doctordumbass
A slippery slope, Dr. Pete. Next, you'll be proclaiming that a crucifix, 
submerged in the artist's *own* urine, is not high art. Or, that Yoko Ono is 
not one of the world's greatest vocalists. Or even that Kim Kardashian, Joan 
Rivers, and Bruce Jenner, are not three of the most beautiful women you have 
ever seen. It hurts me.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "drpsutphen"  wrote:
>
> Such ridiculous crap. 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > More "sick" and "twisted" stuff from David Lynch. 
> >  
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bgoRGqHwBE
> >
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: For MJ and the Turq

2013-05-31 Thread drpsutphen
Such ridiculous crap. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
>
> 
> More "sick" and "twisted" stuff from David Lynch. 
>  
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bgoRGqHwBE
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: For MJ and the Turq

2013-05-31 Thread nablusoss1008


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"  
wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > More "sick" and "twisted" stuff from David Lynch. 
> >  
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bgoRGqHwBE
> >
> 
> http://youtu.be/QdO9orWQ-Nk



Have a Good Day Today, Alex :-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IugOfDBWcGc



[FairfieldLife] Re: For MJ and the Turq

2013-05-31 Thread Alex Stanley


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
>
> 
> More "sick" and "twisted" stuff from David Lynch. 
>  
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bgoRGqHwBE
>

http://youtu.be/QdO9orWQ-Nk