[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-04 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > sparaig wrote: > > >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > > > > >>TurquoiseB wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >Or perhaps because chakras are grafted on after the vedic stuff he > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-04 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > > > > Of course, the idea that the Pandavas represen 5 virtues ala Raja > Yoga is impossible. They > > have to represent 5 chakras even though Chakra

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-04 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister wrote: > > > > And according to Taimni, "hRraya" (heart) in III 35 refers > > to anaahata-cakra (an-aahata): > > > > Bhoja's comment on that suutra: > > hRdayaM s

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-04 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > > > > > Of course, I a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-04 Thread Bhairitu
sparaig wrote: >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>TurquoiseB wrote: >> >> >> >Or perhaps because chakras are grafted on after the vedic stuff he > > > > DOES consider important? >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-04 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > > > > > Of course, I

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-04 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > And according to Taimni, "hRraya" (heart) in III 35 refers > to anaahata-cakra (an-aahata): > Bhoja's comment on that suutra: hRdayaM shariirasya pradesha-visheSas tasminn adhomukha-svalpa- puNDariikaabhyantare 'nt

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-04 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Of course, the idea that the Pandavas represen 5 virtues ala Raja Yoga is impossible. They > have to represent 5 chakras even though Chakra is never mentioned in the Gita or the > Yoga Sutras Well, actually it

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-04 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > > > Of course, I assume that intentional transcending is > > > actually a different physic

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-04 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 wrote: > > > > > > Sahadeva=coccyx center=restraint (muladhara chakra) > > sahadeva (%{saha4-}) mfn. *with the gods*[emph. added] MBh. BhP. ; m. > N. of a R2shi (wit

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-04 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > Of course, I assume that intentional transcending is > > actually a different physical state than spontaneous > > transcending, and that the former is an

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-03 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Sahadeva=coccyx center=restraint (muladhara chakra) sahadeva (%{saha4-}) mfn. *with the gods*[emph. added] MBh. BhP. ; m. N. of a R2shi (with the patr. %{vArSAgira}) RV. i , 107 ; of a man (with the patr. %{zAJjaya

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-03 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Of course, I assume that intentional transcending is > actually a different physical state than spontaneous > transcending, and that the former is an illusion, > while the latter is based on a simple physical change

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-03 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > The third eye is the portal to infinity, that's why it's > important! > > > Unfolding of the chakras unfold powers of morality, self control, > > > chas

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-03 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The third eye is the portal to infinity, that's why it's important! > > Unfolding of the chakras unfold powers of morality, self control, > > chastity, descrimination, etc. That is why we meditate, and the > > unfol

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-03 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 9/3/06 2:19 PM, Bhairitu at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >>> >> > >>> >> Haven't any of you guys considered the obvious? > >>> >> He doesn't speak about chakras (and thousands > >>> >> of other spiritual subjects) bec

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-03 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > TurquoiseB wrote: > > >>>Or perhaps because chakras are grafted on after the vedic stuff he > >>> > >>> > >>DOES consider important? > >> > >> > >>>Maharishi mentions marmas, and not chakras. > >>> > >>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-03 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > MMY calls these marmas and thinks there are about 108 of them > > > IIRC. Of these 3 are most important. > > 107 as I recall from working with an indian who trained for many years > in the tradition that ma

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-03 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > snip> > > > What the hell is this third eye and why do you think it is important? > > > > The third eye is the portal to infinity, that's why it's importa

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-03 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > > Before anyone freaks out and considers this > > > "anti-TM," it's not. > > > > > W

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-03 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Mason" > wrote: > > > > > > When I spent some time with Brahmachari Sattyanand he gave me an > > > advanced t

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-03 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Mason" > > wrote: > > > > > > When I spent some time with Brahmachari Sattyanand > > he gave me an > > > advanced technique wh

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-03 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter wrote: > > > > > > > > --- sparaig wrote: > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Mason" > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > When I spent some time with Brahmachari

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-03 Thread Peter
--- Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 9/3/06 2:19 PM, Bhairitu at > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >>> >> > >>> >> Haven't any of you guys considered the > obvious? > >>> >> He doesn't speak about chakras (and thousands > >>> >> of other spiritual subjects) because he > doesn't > >>> >> kn

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-03 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)? on 9/3/06 2:19 PM, Bhairitu at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >> Haven't any of you guys considered the obvious? >> He doesn't speak about chakras (and thousands &g

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-03 Thread new . morning
> > > > MMY calls these marmas and thinks there are about 108 of them > > IIRC. Of these 3 are most important. 107 as I recall from working with an indian who trained for many years in the tradition that maintains the knowledge of marmas in southern India. Danur Veda. And one hidden one. (thus 10

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-03 Thread Bhairitu
TurquoiseB wrote: >>>Or perhaps because chakras are grafted on after the vedic stuff he >>> >>> >>DOES consider important? >> >> >>>Maharishi mentions marmas, and not chakras. >>> >>> >>In all fairness to MMY, I don't think he wanted to open a pandora's >>box >>with this more e

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-03 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: snip> > What the hell is this third eye and why do you think it is important? The third eye is the portal to infinity, that's why it's important! Unfolding of the chakras unfold powers of morality, self control, chas

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-03 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > > Before anyone freaks out and considers this > > > "anti-TM," it's not. > > > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-03 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > Before anyone freaks out and considers this > > "anti-TM," it's not. > > Why, *of course* it's not anti-TM (or anti-MMY). > How could anybody think ac

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-03 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Before anyone freaks out and considers this > "anti-TM," it's not. > If you think I'm wrong about this, try to > remember when he *has* talked about other spir- > itual traditions, like the times he's conveyed > compl

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-03 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Haven't any of you guys considered the obvious? > > He doesn't speak about chakras (and thousands > > of other spiritual subjects) because he doesn't > > know anything about them. Ha, haI enjoyed this and your posts b

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-03 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Yup, he secularized a lot of the stuff. For instance, creative > intelligence for shakti. I think you hit the nail on the head, MMY simplified everything and made it more appealing to a world wide audience..hence

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-03 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [I quoted from Wikipedia:] > > In Hinduism and in some related Asian cultures, a chakra is > > thought to be a nexus of metaphysical and/or biophysical energy > > residing in the human body > > MMY calls these marmas

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-03 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Mason" wrote: > > > > When I spent some time with Brahmachari Sattyanand he gave me an > > advanced technique which involves paying attention to the mantra in a > > particul

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-03 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Mason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > When I spent some time with Brahmachari Sattyanand he gave me an > advanced technique which involves paying attention to the mantra > in a particular location. Me, too. > Being in India, with an Indian, in an Ind

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-03 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Mason" > > wrote: > > > > > > When I spent some time with Brahmachari Sattyanand > > he gave me an > > > advanced technique wh

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-03 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" > > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yaho

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-03 Thread Peter
--- sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Mason" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > When I spent some time with Brahmachari Sattyanand > he gave me an > > advanced technique which involves paying attention > to the mantra in a > > particular locatio

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-03 Thread Peter
--- sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu > wrote: > > > > > > Yup, he secularized a lot of th

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-03 Thread Ingegerd
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > > > Or perhaps because chakras are grafted on after the vedic stuff he > > > DOES consider important? > > > > Maharishi mentions marmas, and not chakras

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-03 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > > > Yup, he secularized a lot of the stuff. For instance, creative > > > intelligence for shakt

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-03 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Mason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > When I spent some time with Brahmachari Sattyanand he gave me an > advanced technique which involves paying attention to the mantra in a > particular location. Being in India, with an Indian, in an Indian > ashram,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-03 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Or perhaps because chakras are grafted on after the vedic stuff he > > DOES consider important? > > > Maharishi mentions marmas, and not chakras. > > > > In all fairness to MMY, I don't think he wanted to open a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-03 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > Yup, he secularized a lot of the stuff. For instance, creative > > intelligence for shakti. > > > > I don't think he uses "creative intelligence" as a transl

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-03 Thread Paul Mason
When I spent some time with Brahmachari Sattyanand he gave me an advanced technique which involves paying attention to the mantra in a particular location. Being in India, with an Indian, in an Indian ashram, I asked him if he meant in the vicinity of the so&so chakra, but he soon made it very

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-03 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Or perhaps because chakras are grafted on after the vedic > > > stuff he DOES consider important? > > > Maharishi mentions marmas, and not chakras. > > > > In all fairness to MMY, I don't think he wanted to open

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-03 Thread TurquoiseB
> > Or perhaps because chakras are grafted on after the vedic stuff he > DOES consider important? > > Maharishi mentions marmas, and not chakras. > > In all fairness to MMY, I don't think he wanted to open a pandora's > box > with this more esoteric stuff, who knows, I may not be a meditator n

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-03 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 wrote: > > > > remember what Christ said, no man cometh unto the Father > > (Brahman) but thru meie. thur the all seeing 'third' eye. > > Yep, I'm sure that is what Ch

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-03 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I stand corrected. He appears to refer to brahmi shakti as "the cosmic creative intelligence" > aka "Mother Divine." > > http://is1.mum.edu/vedicreserve/vedant.htm > > Rk Veda 1.158.6 > > Translation: For those (

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-02 Thread Robert Gimbel
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Gimbel" wrote: > > > > (snip) > > "I take that back. The mention of chakra appears to be descriptive > > rather than prescriptive > > > (to use Judy's phrase), and ther

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-02 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Gimbel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > (snip) > "I take that back. The mention of chakra appears to be descriptive > rather than prescriptive > > (to use Judy's phrase), and there is much of interest in this > upanishad for those who think > > TM i

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-02 Thread Robert Gimbel
(snip) "I take that back. The mention of chakra appears to be descriptive rather than prescriptive > (to use Judy's phrase), and there is much of interest in this upanishad for those who think > TM is important rather than thinking that you gotta attend to each individual leaf (or > chakra).

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-02 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > jim_flanegin wrote: > > >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > > > > >>jim_flanegin wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-02 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > sparaig wrote: > > >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > > > > >>wmurphy77 wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-02 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > > Quick google search yields little about chakras as spiritual > > thingies. There are

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-02 Thread Bhairitu
sparaig wrote: >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>jim_flanegin wrote: >> >> >> >>>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> wmurphy77 wrote: >--- In FairfieldLife@yah

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-02 Thread Bhairitu
jim_flanegin wrote: >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>jim_flanegin wrote: >> >> >> >>>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> wmurphy77 wrote: >--- In FairfieldLif

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-02 Thread Bhairitu
sparaig wrote: >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>wmurphy77 wrote: >> >> >> >>>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >And what does MMY say? > > > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-02 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > Quick google search yields little about chakras as spiritual > thingies. There are "wheels" > > mentioned, but not spiritual nexi specifical called "cha

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-02 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > Quick google search yields little about chakras as spiritual > thingies. There are "wheels" > > mentioned, but not spiritual nexi specifical called "cha

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-02 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > snip > > > Or perhaps becaus

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-02 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > jim_flanegin wrote: > > >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > > > > >>wmurphy77 wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>

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2006-09-02 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > wmurphy77 wrote: > > >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >>>And what does MMY say? > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>Like others have mentioned here I never heard him speak of

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2006-09-02 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > jim_flanegin wrote: > > >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > > > > >>wmurphy77 wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>

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2006-09-02 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Quick google search yields little about chakras as spiritual thingies. There are "wheels" > mentioned, but not spiritual nexi specifical called "chakras." This appears to be a Tibetan > Buddhist term, ? In Hindu

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2006-09-02 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > snip > > > Or perhaps because

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2006-09-02 Thread Bhairitu
jim_flanegin wrote: >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>wmurphy77 wrote: >> >> >> >>>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Indians in general speak of the third eye open ("kundalini has >>>

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2006-09-02 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > snip > > > Or perhaps because

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2006-09-02 Thread Bhairitu
wmurphy77 wrote: >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >>>And what does MMY say? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>Like others have mentioned here I never heard him speak of the >> >> >chakras. > > >>It's not that the information isn't important tho

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2006-09-02 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: snip > Or perhaps because chakras are grafted on after the vedic stuff he DOES consider important?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-02 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > > > wmurphy77 wrote: > > > > >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > > > > > > > >>Indians in general speak of the third eye open ("kundal

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-02 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > > > > >And what does MMY say? > > > > > > > > Like others have mentioned here I never heard him speak of the > chakras. > > It's not that the information

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2006-09-02 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > wmurphy77 wrote: > > >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > > > > >>Indians in general speak of the third eye open ("kundalini has > >> > >> > >risen") > > > > > >>as a sign of enlightenmen

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2006-09-02 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > wmurphy77 wrote: > > >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > > > > >>Indians in general speak of the third eye open ("kundalini has > >> > >> > >risen") > > > > > >>as a sign of enlightenmen

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2006-09-02 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >And what does MMY say? > > > > > Like others have mentioned here I never heard him speak of the chakras. > It's not that the information isn't important though. I'm not sure why MMY does not mention opening of the

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2006-09-02 Thread Peter
--- sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > "jim_flanegin" > > wrote: > > > Not sure I understand all of what you said- > > > > > > all I can say is that when the third e

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-02 Thread Bhairitu
wmurphy77 wrote: >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>Indians in general speak of the third eye open ("kundalini has >> >> >risen") > > >>as a sign of enlightenment. >> >> > > >And what does MMY say? > > Like others have mentioned here I

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2006-09-02 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yep, I'm sure that is what Christ meant: "me" = 3rd eye. Yes, as Christ is *the only begotten* of the Father and is God immanent IN creation (formless Christ or Buddhic plane of consciousness, the one life, the one

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2006-09-02 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" > wrote: > > Not sure I understand all of what you said- > > > > all I can say is that when the third eye opens (a very weird > > expression by the way...) the ab

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2006-09-02 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Indians in general speak of the third eye open ("kundalini has risen") > as a sign of enlightenment. And what does MMY say? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/g

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2006-09-02 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" > wrote: > > Not sure I understand all of what you said- > > > > all I can say is that when the third eye opens (a very weird > > expression by the way...) the ab

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2006-09-02 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Not sure I understand all of what you said- > > all I can say is that when the third eye opens (a very weird > expression by the way...) the ability is gained to see all manner of > things without the optic machi

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2006-09-02 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 wrote: > > > > > > I've only been meditating for 37 years (TM govenor/Siddha...in poor > > > stan

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-02 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 wrote: > > > > I've only been meditating for 37 years (TM govenor/Siddha...in poor > > standing)and don't really know...any takers? BillyG. > > > > (previous subjec

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2006-09-02 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I've only been meditating for 37 years (TM govenor/Siddha...in poor > standing)and don't really know...any takers? BillyG. > > (previous subject line cut off) > Hi, I think yes, it probably is, though I had such an