Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S

2013-05-23 Thread Share Long
m: Xenophaneros Anartaxius To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 9:20 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@y

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S

2013-05-23 Thread Share Long
edge. From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 8:06 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Jas

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S

2013-05-23 Thread Share Long
Jason, I liked your analogy and I think Judy asks a valid question.  What say you? From: authfriend To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 7:42 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel Good

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2013-05-23 Thread salyavin808
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > > > > > > > Good spiritual advice even for just TM

[FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S

2013-05-23 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
lity to sense the outside universe, it would need the > hardware. It would be objective. > > If consciousness came from the intelligence of the totality > of nature's laws, it's a software issue. The Qualia aspect > of reality is interesting. It's subjective. > > Bring it

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2013-05-23 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Jason" wrote: > (snip) > Allow me to rephrase the topic. > > Judy's thesis is this. There is a dark room. You are inside > it in darkness. There is bright light outside. The windows > are covered with blinds with no light coming in. > > You slowly ope

[FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S

2013-05-23 Thread Jason
ld be objective. If consciousness came from the intelligence of the totality of nature's laws, it's a software issue. The Qualia aspect of reality is interesting. It's subjective. Bring it on, Xeno Taxius, Judy, Salyawin. > > _________

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2013-05-23 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > > > > > Good spiritual advice even for just TM'ers on today's Zen > > > calendar, "Stop your wandering, look penetrating

[FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S

2013-05-23 Thread Buck
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > > > Good spiritual advice even for just TM'ers on today's Zen > > calendar, "Stop your wandering, look penetratingly into > > your inherent nature, concentrate your spiritual ene

[FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S

2013-05-22 Thread sparaig
I took the full course nearly 40 years ago, but I recall hearing that some of the tapes changed over the years. L --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > Michael DEan Goodman responds with great authority: >

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2013-05-22 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > Good spiritual advice even for just TM'ers on today's Zen > calendar, "Stop your wandering, look penetratingly into > your inherent nature, concentrate your spiritual energy, > sit in zazen, and break through." > Come to meditation while

[FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S

2013-05-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > Michael DEan Goodman responds with great authority: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/18669 > > But my recollection of the SCI course tapes is as Judy says, > not as Michael says. FWIW, my suggestion to Share had t

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2013-05-22 Thread Share Long
out how we frame and reframe our experiences. From: Richard J. Williams To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 9:39 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S  

[FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S

2013-05-22 Thread Buck
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" wrote: > > Sorry Buck. I have no soul. No light body. But I do have an imagination, and > I can pretend I have all kinds of stuff in me that doesn't actually exist. > Dear Xenophaneros Anartaxius, Friend you are not heartless. E

[FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S

2013-05-22 Thread sparaig
ni doing sleep research on long term meditators, > > people reporting certain experiences, etc.  I guess an observable  > > baseline would have to be established first. > > > > > > ____________ > > From: sparaig > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Tuesday, M

[FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S

2013-05-22 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
Sorry Buck. I have no soul. No light body. But I do have an imagination, and I can pretend I have all kinds of stuff in me that doesn't actually exist. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > What, no picture of the soul in the light-body, the jivan? Got any pictures > of the e

[FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S

2013-05-22 Thread Buck
What, no picture of the soul in the light-body, the jivan? Got any pictures of the electro-biochemistry of the thymus, heart, solarplexes and root area of the neurophysiology. No of course not, TM'ers don't go there unless you've taken the Ved in Physiology course and cultivated awareness that

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2013-05-22 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: > > > > Good Lord, Lawson, life is fascinating! I was just > > asking a friend if there is ever a time when existence > > is not conscious. This was in the context of

[FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S

2013-05-22 Thread Buck
;t like the idea of perpetuating ancient religions with > > > > the language of science especially when it isn't very good science. > > > > > > > > I've been reading about free will (or the lack of it) all day, > > > > some interesting experiments can

[FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S

2013-05-22 Thread Buck
tting than just transcending some in meditation. By Jove Keep up the good work, Buck > > > > From: salyavin808 > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 6:57 AM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZ

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2013-05-22 Thread Richard J. Williams
> > Good Lord, Lawson, life is fascinating! I was just > > asking a friend if there is ever a time when existence > > is not conscious. This was in the context of the famous > > phrase from SCI Lesson 8: when existence becomes > > conscious, then intelligence becomes intelligent. > > turquoise:

[FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S

2013-05-22 Thread salyavin808
lyavin808 > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 6:57 AM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel > Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S > > > >   > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "spa

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S

2013-05-22 Thread Share Long
es rise to matter.  Am I totally brain washed?! From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 6:57 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S  

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2013-05-22 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: > > Good Lord, Lawson, life is fascinating!  I was just > asking a friend if there is ever a time when existence > is not conscious. This was in the context of the famous > phrase from SCI Lesson 8: when existence becomes > conscious, th

[FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S

2013-05-22 Thread salyavin808
's more like it, > > it fits in with observations and doesn't require gods, whether > > quantum or biblical. There is even a fabulous structure in our > > heads that can be measured to be displaying consciousness and > > having thoughts. Give me the most obvious explana

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S

2013-05-22 Thread Share Long
bject: [FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S   What is consciousness? Tononi's Integrated Information Theory asserts that the level consciousness depends on a certain sophistication in the interaction of parts of a syste

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2013-05-22 Thread sparaig
ing consciousness and > having thoughts. Give me the most obvious explanation every > time. > > > > ________ > > From: salyavin808 > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 2:32 PM > > Subject: [Fai

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2013-05-21 Thread salyavin808
dea if it's important but the idea that we only use 10% of our brains is a myth. Unless you enjoy Britain's Got Talent of course. > From: salyavin808 > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 8:43 AM > Subject: [Fa

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S

2013-05-21 Thread Share Long
hts. Give me the most obvious explanation every time. > ____ > From: salyavin808 > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 2:32 PM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel > Good, Achieve Goals

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2013-05-21 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" wrote: (snip) > "Does matter emerge from consciousness?" It's a weird mystical > idea that started in the far east and was an early interpretation > of quantum mechanics. I can't see how the statement makes sense, > it seems to contradict everyth

[FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S

2013-05-21 Thread card
tter emerge from consciousness?  Or is > something else altogether happening? > > > > > > From: salyavin808 > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 2:32 PM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZ

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2013-05-21 Thread Richard J. Williams
> > does consciousness emerge from matter or does matter > > emerge from consciousness? Or is something else > > altogether happening... > > salyavin: > I've been reading about free will... > >From what I've read, 'free will' is an idealist notion. You cannot have both 'free will', and at the

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2013-05-21 Thread Share Long
e reporting certain experiences, etc.  I guess an observable  baseline > would have to be established first. > > > ____ > From: sparaig > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 12:06 AM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-H

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2013-05-21 Thread doctordumbass
gt; > From: "doctordumbass@" > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 9:42 AM > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, > > > Feel Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S > > &

[FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S

2013-05-21 Thread Ann
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > (snip) > > I *do* have an undying hope > > that people can learn to *laugh* at themselves. > > It's a liberating feeling, one that does wonders > > to dispel ego and all thos

[FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S

2013-05-21 Thread salyavin808
> From: salyavin808 > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 2:32 PM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel > Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S > > > >   > > >

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2013-05-21 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: (snip) > I *do* have an undying hope > that people can learn to *laugh* at themselves. > It's a liberating feeling, one that does wonders > to dispel ego and all those other things that > cause unhappiness. How would you know? I've never kn

[FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S

2013-05-21 Thread authfriend
established first. > > > > From: sparaig > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 12:06 AM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel > Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S > > >

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2013-05-21 Thread authfriend
> Or is something else altogether happening? > > > > > > From: salyavin808 > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 2:32 PM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel >

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2013-05-21 Thread Share Long
2:32 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: > > Salyavin wrote:  Once you have enough brain cells you have consciousness.  > Share asks:  I'v

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2013-05-21 Thread Share Long
riences, etc.  I guess an observable  baseline would have to be established first. From: sparaig To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 12:06 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel Good, Achieve Goals Dr.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S

2013-05-21 Thread Share Long
Negativity, Feel Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > > > One thing you've got to say about the TM movement -- it > > never fails to amuse... :-) >

[FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S

2013-05-20 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" wrote: > > Suppose, like me, Turq has no soul, is not a soul, but > has a certain twisted compassion in that he wants to > save idiots from themselves. Close, but no cigar. I *do* have an undying hope that people can learn to *l

[FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S

2013-05-20 Thread sparaig
hat one of the functions of > > yawning is to cool the brain.  > > > > ________ > > From: salyavin808 > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 1:31 PM > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE:

[FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S

2013-05-20 Thread sparaig
answer, absolutely. > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: > > > > > > Doc, do you think ANY structure is necessary for consciousness?  > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________ >

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2013-05-20 Thread sparaig
_ > > From: "doctordumbass@" > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 9:23 AM > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel > > Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S > >

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2013-05-20 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > > > > > One thing you've got to say about the TM movement -- it > > > never fails to amuse...

[FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S

2013-05-20 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > > > One thing you've got to say about the TM movement -- it > > never fails to amuse... :-) > > And, given the amount of posts and energy the Turq devotes in posting about

[FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S

2013-05-20 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > One thing you've got to say about the TM movement -- it > never fails to amuse... :-) And, given the amount of posts and energy the Turq devotes in posting about the TMO, it certainly has made a deep impression on this poor soul - 4

[FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S

2013-05-20 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" wrote: (snip) > The point I'm making is, I don't see it as mind and matter, > it's all the same thing to me, you can't seperate them, they > don't work without each other. This is what I'm saying about > consciousness, it's a function. Once you h

[FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S

2013-05-20 Thread salyavin808
steps.  It's the best I can do > > > with this topic.  Thanks for your patience.  BTW, speaking of the hot > > > human brain, scientists have recently theorized that one of the functions > > > of yawning is to cool the brain.  > > > > > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S

2013-05-20 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" wrote: > > > > Yep, a functioning brain is the seat of consciousness but > > groups like the TMO will attempt to weaken that idea for > > their own agenda. > > Exactly. While I appreci

[FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S

2013-05-20 Thread card
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "PaliGap" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" wrote: > > > It doesn't contradict anything I've said about consciousness > > anyway. Placing of brain structures is well understood, it > > can be predicted what functions peo

[FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S

2013-05-20 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" wrote: > > Yep, a functioning brain is the seat of consciousness but groups > like the TMO will attempt to weaken that idea for their own agenda. Exactly. While I appreciate your tenacity and infinite patience in trying to have a rational conver

[FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S

2013-05-20 Thread card
o cool the brain.  > > > > ________________ > > From: salyavin808 > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 1:31 PM > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel > > Good, Achieve Go

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2013-05-20 Thread salyavin808
salyavin808 > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 1:31 PM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel > Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S > > > >   > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "

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2013-05-20 Thread Share Long
From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 1:31 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "PaliGap" wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S

2013-05-20 Thread salyavin808
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "PaliGap" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" wrote: > > > > "The condemned man may live for several days or even weeks. > > > But, he believes so strongly in the curse that has been > > > uttered, that he will surely die. It i

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2013-05-20 Thread salyavin808
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "PaliGap" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" wrote: > > > It doesn't contradict anything I've said about consciousness > > anyway. Placing of brain structures is well understood, it > > can be predicted what functions peo

[FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S

2013-05-20 Thread PaliGap
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" wrote: > > "The condemned man may live for several days or even weeks. > > But, he believes so strongly in the curse that has been > > uttered, that he will surely die. It is said that the ritual > > loading of the kundela creates a "spear of

[FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S

2013-05-20 Thread PaliGap
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" wrote: > It doesn't contradict anything I've said about consciousness > anyway. Placing of brain structures is well understood, it > can be predicted what functions people will lose or have > difficulty with after a damage to the brain. I'm

[FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S

2013-05-20 Thread PaliGap
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "PaliGap" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros > > Anartaxius" wrote: > > > > > We see other people, animals, and by their behaviour we > > > deem them to be consciou

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2013-05-20 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" wrote: (snip) > Yep, a functioning brain is the seat of consciousness but > groups like the TMO will attempt to weaken that idea for > their own agenda. Salyavin, why don't you see if you can make your case without leaving a trail of slain straw

[FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S

2013-05-20 Thread salyavin808
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "PaliGap" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros > Anartaxius" wrote: > > > We see other people, animals, and by their behaviour we > > deem them to be conscious. Yet if the brain of these > > beings is damaged in certain way

[FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S

2013-05-20 Thread salyavin808
rt for evidence. > ________________ > From: salyavin808 > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 9:56 AM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel > Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S

2013-05-20 Thread PaliGap
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" wrote: > We see other people, animals, and by their behaviour we > deem them to be conscious. Yet if the brain of these > beings is damaged in certain ways, that conscious > behaviour departs. Injection of certain drugs, such as

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S

2013-05-20 Thread Share Long
hare Long wrote: > > > > Doc, do you think ANY structure is necessary for consciousness?  > > > > > > > > ____ > > From: "doctordumbass@" > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 9:23 AM >

[FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S

2013-05-20 Thread salyavin808
t; > > Doc, do you think ANY structure is necessary for consciousness?  > > > > > > > > > > From: "doctordumbass@" > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 9:23 AM > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYP

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S

2013-05-20 Thread Share Long
AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S   I was wondering the same thing. Probably not, but the paradox to finding the answer to that question, is that, in order for me to assess such a thing, in the moment, I must have a structu

[FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S

2013-05-20 Thread doctordumbass
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 9:23 AM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel > Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S > > > >   > Thoughts and consciousness are not the same thing. Consciousness or aw

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S

2013-05-20 Thread Share Long
Doc, do you think ANY structure is necessary for consciousness?  From: "doctordumb...@rocketmail.com" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 9:23 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity,

[FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S

2013-05-20 Thread doctordumbass
Thoughts and consciousness are not the same thing. Consciousness or awareness is fundamental, with thoughts secondary. So for thoughts, yes, you need a brain. But for consciousness, the brain structure isn't necessary. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" wrote: > > > > --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S

2013-05-19 Thread salyavin808
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" > > > wrote: > (snip) > > > > > > > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S

2013-05-19 Thread card
Consciousness without brain? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9dP9F5nKpY --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In F

[FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S

2013-05-19 Thread card
Consciousness without brain? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9dP9F5nKpY --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In F

[FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S

2013-05-19 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
One of the philosophical arguments concerning consciousness concerns 'zombies'. David Chalmers and Daniel Dennett here discuss opposing points of view on the subject in two separate documents I found on the web. DAVID CHALMERS Zombies are hypothetical creatures of the sort that philosophers ha

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S

2013-05-19 Thread Ravi Chivukula
A reductionist approach to argument, LOL..when losing an argument, play dumb - Curtis is a master of this approach. May be you can plead a variant of philosophical zombieness? I'm just programmed to defend the reductionist approach to mind? On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 11:42 AM, salyavin808 wrote: >

[FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S

2013-05-19 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" > > wrote: (snip) > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yup, and it's perfectly natural to find something > > > > > > > > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S

2013-05-19 Thread salyavin808
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" > > > wrote: > (snip) > > > > > > > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S

2013-05-19 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" > > wrote: (snip) > > > > > > > > > > > Yup, and it's perfectly natural to find something > > > > > > > > > > > c

[FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S

2013-05-18 Thread salyavin808
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" > > > wrote: > (snip) > > > > > > > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S

2013-05-18 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" > > wrote: (snip) > > > > > > > > > Yup, and it's perfectly natural to find something > > > > > > > > > complex a

[FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S

2013-05-18 Thread salyavin808
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" wrote: > > > > > > Nonsense. > > > > authfriend: > > Oh, a well-formulated scientific argument, salyavin. ;-) > > > > My assertion stands, even without the parenthetical. Brains > > and consciousness are very highly *correlated*, but

[FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S

2013-05-18 Thread Richard J. Williams
> > Nonsense. > > authfriend: > Oh, a well-formulated scientific argument, salyavin. ;-) > > My assertion stands, even without the parenthetical. Brains > and consciousness are very highly *correlated*, but that > doesn't nail causation. Faucets and water are very highly > correlated; does that

[FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S

2013-05-18 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Jason" wrote: (snip) > Bio-electrical impulses from the nervous system power the > brain. This enables the functioning of the live animated > brain, which in turn perceives the universe. > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biological_neural_network > > Jud

[FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S

2013-05-18 Thread Jason
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" > > > > wrote: > > (snip) > > > > > > > > > Yup, and it's perfectly natural to fin

[FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S

2013-05-17 Thread salyavin808
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" > > > wrote: > (snip) > > > > > > > > Yu

[FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S

2013-05-17 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" > > wrote: (snip) > > > > > > > Yup, and it's perfectly natural to find something > > > > > > > complex and assum

[FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S

2013-05-17 Thread salyavin808
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "card" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" > > > wrote: > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S

2013-05-17 Thread salyavin808
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" > > > wrote: > (snip) > > > > > > Yup,

[FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S

2013-05-17 Thread card
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S

2013-05-17 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" > > wrote: (snip) > > > > > Yup, and it's perfectly natural to find something complex > > > > > and assume that

[FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S

2013-05-16 Thread salyavin808
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" > > > wrote: > > > > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S

2013-05-16 Thread salyavin808
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" wrote: > > > > I like what top physicist and bongo player Richard Feynman said: > > > > "I can live with doubt and uncertainty and not knowing. I think > > it is much more interesti

[FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S

2013-05-16 Thread John
hoogroups.com > Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 11:51 AM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel > Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S > > > >   > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: > > > > Well t

[FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S

2013-05-16 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > Yup, and it's

[FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S

2013-05-16 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" wrote: > > I like what top physicist and bongo player Richard Feynman said: > > "I can live with doubt and uncertainty and not knowing. I think > it is much more interesting to live not knowing than to have > answers that might be wrong." > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S

2013-05-16 Thread Ann
than that, it's a great quote, thank you. > > > > > > From: salyavin808 > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 11:51 AM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel > Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S &g

[FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S

2013-05-16 Thread Jason
> > > --- "salyavin808" wrote: > > > > > > Yup, and it's perfectly natural to find something complex > > > and assume that it must have been created by something more > > > complex. This was Darwins genius as he showed it isn't the > > > case where biology is concerned. > > > > > --- "authfrie

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel Good, Achieve Goals Dr. Shelley S

2013-05-16 Thread Share Long
that came out all by itself!  Other than that, it's a great quote, thank you. From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 11:51 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: SELF-HYPNOTIZE: Channel, End Negativity, Feel Good, Ac

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