No, I am saying that my vet prescribed very
conservative amount of prednisone to Naomi so I couldnt tell exactly how to
convert --- I will ask my vet tomorrow morning..
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Also Ayumi seems to be snorting more do you know
what it means? She always has in the past.. and come and go.. but I notice
more for the past couple of days..
My alternative vet recommends Cell Food and Willard
Water for critters who are having trouble breathing. It has to do with
increasing the oxygen they can pull into their bodies. I've tried the Cell
Food myself and feel like I can breath better. Both are at health food
stores and on line.
anemia can cause open-mouth breathing if they are very very anemic, because
it means they are not getting enough oxygen (oxygen is supplied in the
blood)
\Michelle
Gunnar was first tested positive using the Elissa test on August 3.
He just started eating Wellness wet/dry, and I started the Mega C on
Saturday.
When do you recommend I take him back for his retest? Is September 23
too soon? And should I do the Elissa again? And keep doing the Elissa
until
I'd give it at least 2 months. How old is he?Susan Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gunnar was first tested positive using the Elissa test on August 3.He just started eating Wellness wet/dry, and I started the Mega C onSaturday.When do you recommend I take him back for his retest? Is September
I'd give it at least 2 months. How old is he?Susan Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gunnar was first tested positive using the Elissa test on August 3.He just started eating Wellness wet/dry, and I started the Mega C onSaturday.When do you recommend I take him back for his retest? Is September
Susan,
I would wait at least 90 days and then get the IFA test.
Keep giving the Mega C and good food and hopefully he will clear the
virus. But if not and it could take longer than 90 days, he'll still
be healthier with the supplements and better food, which gives him a
better chance of
He's at least 1-1/2 years old, possibly 2 years. He's in excellent
health - good appetite, shiny coat, clear eyes. He's amazing. I have
two negatives, who are in the process of being vaccinated, and they will
mix. However, I want the very best for Gunnar and want to time our
tests for optimum
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 9/11/06 8:37:18 AM
Susan,
I would wait *at least* 90 days and then get the IFA test. WOULD I
NOT WANT TO GET THE ELISSA TEST AGAIN??? ISN'T THE IFA TEST THE FINAL
SAY??? IF THE IFA CAME BACK POSITIVE, WOULD I CONTINUE TO RETEST WITH
THE IFA? AND HOW OFTEN?
Keep
I had Gypsy on both, I started on Prednisone in pill form and then when
to the injections. The dose of Prednisone that I had Gypsy on was low,
and I can't remember if she had been tapered off of it before we tried
the Prednisolone, (also IM injections). I had also heard it is the
less harsh of
Did you check the archives on the IBD list? They should have the
answer to that. I hope by the time I'm writing this that you have the
dosing info figured out.
N
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks. I am getting the prednisolone in pill form, but wanted
to know if the dosing is
Hideyo,
Kerry R and I think Tad and Gloria have used homemade oxygen carriers.
I remember Tad saying that you don't want to make the carrier "air
tight". Cover the carrier, put the hose from the oxygen tank in the
front grate, but allow some ventilation. Did you check the archives to
see
Yes you could still give it a try later down the road, I have heard
of a cat that tested negative after a year, so that's why I always say a
minimum of 90 days. I tested Bailey for the first 3 years and he always
tested positive, I figured after 3 years, he was positive.
I also had both
Sorry typing faster than brain is working I meant 5 years not 3
I tested Bailey for the first 3 years and he always tested positive, I
figured after 3 years, he was positive.
--
Belinda
happiness is being owned by cats ...
Be-Mi-Kitties
http://bemikitties.com
Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 9/11/06 9:51:42 AM
Yes you could still give it a try later down the road, I have heard
of a cat that tested negative after a year, so that's why I always say
a
minimum of 90 days. I tested Bailey for the first 3 years and he
always
tested positive, I figured after 3
Hi Kiley,
I'm in Sumner, can I ask who your vet in Seattle is?? I have a
great vet too but it's always good to know others in my area.
Maybe when you have a minute you could list them on the Post Adoptable
FeLV/FIV/FIP list in the
FeLV/FIV/FIP+
Friendly Vets. section?
--
Belinda
I actually lost my little Bailey on May 6th, 2006 at age 11 years
to what turned out to be pancreatic cancer. He started out being anemic
and we resolved that but couldn't find the cancer, we knew he had cancer
but none of the tests we did confirmed it. When I finally decided to
allow
Yes you can, the prednisolone is what the liver turns the prednisone
into, just one less step the body needs to use to process it.
Does anyone
know if I can switch from prednisone
to
prednisolone all at once without problem, and if the dosing is the same?
--
Belinda
happiness is being
Hi all,
Several of my group are wanting to strike out on own on and start a cat rescue, hopefully branching into other animals in the future.
Does anyone who has been through this before have any tips?
Thanks so much!-- Vist the Austin Siamese Rescue store and save a kitty
BOY am I glad someone asked this question!!! My husband and I are in the middle of staring down the mountain of paperwork too... any tips would be appreciated
Leslie =^..^=
On 9/11/06, Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi all,
Several of my group are wanting to strike out on own on
I have never used it myself.. Just seen it being used...
Both with people and animals at the vets...
Basically normal air contains only about 16 % oxygen
so just a very small amount flowing in the direction
of the breathing will help...
The covering is just to keep a draft from blowing it
all
I got a message from my Internist yesterday, (unfortunately I haven't
been able to reconnect with her for follow up questions). My question
had been about Dex shots and what to do now that Spencer seems to have a
new lease on life. She said that in order to prescribe chemo drugs
she'd need a
Well, I have gotten some good information on the Internet, but it is always good to hear from other people who have gone thorough it.
Here are some of the links I have found:
http://www.bestfriends.org/archives/forums/061404grassroots.html
Good job, Kayte, switching food on them can be very difficult. Any steps to improve are steps in the right direction. If you choose to step forward again, I wanted to make sure that you are gradually mixing the new food in with the old. Most cats will refuse outright anything different, but if you
Hi Nina
When you say DEX is that DEXAMETHASONE ??
Leo got only one shot.. I asked about getting another
but she was hesitant because of his ammune system...
But now it doesn't make any difference...
How much is Spencer getting
I do have another FeLV+ cat with chronic fevers and
the one
Hello,
I've decided to adopt the other FeLV+ kitten that was just given the green light from her URI from her foster mom - after a month's recuperation. I called today to let the humane society know and I find that they've already put her back out in the adoption room (though they are all
Hi Leslie
Somebody correct me if I am wrong here...
Interferon is an immune system booster...
The problem is that if you use it too much
the immune system can become totally dependent on it...
Most vets agree that 7 days on and 7 days off is the best
compromise...
It is diluted in water and
Hi Tad,
Yes, Dexamethasone. Spencer has been getting daily injections of .4cc,
(that's 4/10 of a cc). That amount was prescribed when he weighed about
13 lbs. and he was at death's door. The experience you describe for
your boy with the fevers is what I've been praying for with Spencer.
My understanding about the reasoning behind the pulse method protocol,
(7 days on 7 days off), is because the oral interferon, (Interferon
Alpha), is actually a human interferon, (derived from human dna, rather
than feline). After extended use, the cats develop an immunity to it
and it is no
I forgot to mention that my Internist also commented on the Elspar...
She said that it is a good treatment; it's not considered chemo. Its
effects lasts for approx 3 days and is used to get patients into
remission quickly, but does not hold. She said even if I could afford
it, it can't be
I'm confused about who is asking what here. Who's the person that is
using caps to talk with? Anyway, this was just posted on my feral list
in answer to questions about ELISA vs IFA. I don't know this person,
(and I hope he wouldn't mind my copying his post for our list), but his
response
Michelle,
I've seen your posts about switching Lucy from prednisone to
prednisolone today, but you haven't said how she's doing. Is she
eating? Has her stool firmed up at all? Any other symptoms? With all
that's going on at my house I didn't get to Gypsy's mush for two days.
I had been
CORTLAND COUNTY SPCA
i hope to know by tomorrow how many FeLVs there are involved.. the kitty on the page is one.
MC
-- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors!Maybe That'll Make The DifferenceMaryChristineAIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCatsMSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ICQ: 289856892
retest using the IFA at a minimum of 90 days--i go for 120 days since most times it takes between three and four months to clear the virus--so unless you are absolutely sure that he couldn't have been in contact with an infected cat that entire amount, better to wait.
statistically, 70% of those
You guys, as I've said before, are FANTASTIC. Whenever I get down about
stuff I read on other Internet sites regarding mixing or throwing off
the virus, I can always count on coming to you and getting an
optimistic, truthful and knowledgeable answer.
Thank you, thank you, thank you I will
i'd definitely go for the IFA instead of the elissa--the false positive rate is just too high on the latter. i don't know how much actual research there is on how long it can take to clear on the IFA--i'd seen a cite of up to 8 months from exposure, tho that one no longer appears where i saw it.
You are sooo correct; after all that time, it really won't matter. BUT
WOULDN'T IT BE WONDERFUL FOR THE DAY TO ACTUALLY COME TO
CELEBRATE???!
I've already told Gunnar - no matter what the test results say - HE
WILL NOT SPEND THE REST OF HIS LIFE WEARING A LABEL. UNLESS, OF
COURSE, IT'S A
I was sort of in the process and never
completed it.. setting up non profit organization is very easy and getting tax
exemption status is time consuming (lots of paper work) I have some information
that different people oh the list sent it to me I will forward them to
you if I can find
I have been in contact with Otis's new mom and Otis has a confirmed ride on the 19th of September! /mari
On 9/6/06, Pam Norman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Pam Norman
To: petvet
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 10:09 PM
Subject: Otis/blind deaf kitten needs
Thanks, Nina. I can't believe you are responding at all, to be honest, with all you are going through.
Lucy's bowels are firm and she just started having a normal-ish appetite again, but only after I put her up to 12.5 mg/day of pred. I think I really need to try to leave her on this for at
I do notthink it is a good idea to stop the dex if it is making him feel better.If there is a mass, what else does she think it could be?Felv+ cats get lymphoma so much, I would think that if there is obviously cancer it should be fine to assume it is lymphoma.It does not seem, to me, that she
The little guy with the broken jaw too? Poor little guy At least it seems that the entire community is busy trying to help these cats /mari
On 9/11/06, TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
CORTLAND COUNTY SPCA
i hope to know by tomorrow how many FeLVs there are
Thank you Tad and Nina for your quick responses.
I did read about Spencer's reaction to Interferon and as (I believe it was Michelle) pointed out last week FeLV+ cats are 600 times more likely to get Lymphoma, it makes me a little nervous, though Satch isn't showing signs of anything more than a
I don't know what else she thinks it could be. No one has said that
there is definitely a mass. They keep saying things like, I think I
felt a mass, that could be a mass on the xray, but not, Yep, that's a
mass all right! I think she's prescribing the steroid shots because I
asked her to.
One thing I always consider with testing -- the tests, the trip to a vet and drawing of blood, is really stressful for the cat. So if you have even a single positive ELISA test, go with the IFA next time. The less the cat needs to be tested, the better.TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Nina,
That information is not accurate, this is not what I've heard from
people who use it, I think you should ask her to consult with an
oncologist, what is her experience with cancer, is she oncologist??
Elspar is used in several treatment protocols, it is also used as a
rescue
I wrote to this person off list and asked them to clarify. Here's his
response:
Let me rephrase that: IFAs depend upon advanced stages of infection to
detect the presence of antigen and thus won't usually pick up early
infections or sequestered infections *that don't involve the bone
That Lucy is such a little dickens when it comes to getting into stuff
she shouldn't. I'm remembering the olive oil incident, (what's with the
oil craving?). If she's anything like Gypsy, bread crumbs would be
enough to cause trouble. I haven't had Gypsy on steroids for such a
long time
I can verify that Elspar is used for cancer treatments (Chemo). My
negative cat has lymphoma of the intestines and his chemo protocol includes
Elspar on varying weeks.
I am pleasantly surprised at the success of chemo for cats--right now may
cat has done very well and gained some weight. I know
not only that, but in some places, IFAs don't cost any more than an ELISA!
On 9/11/06, Susan Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
One thing I always consider with testing -- the tests, the trip to a vet and drawing of blood, is really stressful for the cat. So if you have even a single positive ELISA
Thank goodness! If it had been me, I'd have
gone gotten him myself in a hearbeat! It wasn't all that
far!
P
- Original Message -
From:
Mari Kolbe
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 5:17
PM
Subject: Re: Otis/blind deaf kitten needs
That would be awesome, thanks you
On 9/11/06, TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
remind me tomorrow or so--there is a pretty good yahoogroup just for helping folks through the process!
On 9/11/06, Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I was sort of in the process and never completed
So glad to see this!
N
Pam Norman wrote:
Thank goodness! If it had been me,
I'd have gone gotten him myself in a hearbeat! It wasn't all
that far!
P
-
Original Message -
From:
Mari Kolbe
To:
felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent:
Monday,
No, I still have not taken her there. I keep canceling (wonder how many times they'll let me do that). It's over 1.5 hours away, so probably an all day event, and she just hates the car so much. If it were Patches, who does not mind the car, I probably would have gone already. When i had to
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/501C3Help/
that should be it
On 9/11/06, Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That would be awesome, thanks you
On 9/11/06, TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
remind me tomorrow or so--there is a pretty good yahoogroup just for helping folks
Yes, it's definitely chemo, though it affects only lymphoma cells so is not harsh at all. And in chemo protocols the next drug is not given until a week after the Elspar, so the effects must be expected to last at least a week at a time.
Plus, I would assume that, if the Elspar could shrink
If there is an oncologist within your reach, I think I would try to see him or her.
Michelle
In a message dated 9/11/2006 7:07:01 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I don't know what else she thinks it could be. No one has said that there is "definitely a mass". They keep
I don't think interferon, or any other immune support drug, would aid the growth of lymphoma.
If you think he has a bad URI, I would try Immuno-Regulin, which really helps a lot with that.
While they are at major risk of lymphoma, and I have lost 4 to lymphoma at differing ages, I have also
Wow, that is a really low dose of dex. When I have given dex shots, I have given 1 whole cc at a time, or 1/2 cc mixed with 1/2 cc depomedrol. And none of my cats weighed more than 9 or 10 pounds at the time, some as little as 6. But I was not giving it every day long-term, either, just for one
No, I am not a member anymore and doubt I would be approved as a member at this point after my run-in with the nasty moderator.Maybe I will try to get back on...
Michelle
In a message dated 9/11/2006 10:33:27 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Did you check the archives on the
Did somebody mention frustrated ???
My vet is a country vet.. with many years of experience
with milk cows but is willing to study up on ideas that I
have picked up on the internet... He has just taken on a
new vet or maybe she is an intern and she has been working
with my cats.. She does believe
Hi,
I know this maybe a shot in the dark, since I think most of the people on this list don't live in new york, but I thought I would try. Maybe someone would know someone that cat sits. My husband and I are going to my sister's wedding in California from sept 18-25th, we are looking for a cat
Ok Crackers hacking has stopped but today he started sneezing and his nose
is running a little...i was at my moms and her kitten has an upper respiratory
infection...i WANDER if me holding her kitten with the URI could have gotten the
germs on my shirt and cracker got it that way? other than
I went and saw Ziggy today at the kitty hospital (actually visited twice).
His hematocrit when he went in on wednesday night was 6%!!! IT didnt even
show up on the normal blood tests they had to run a special test! With his
blood transfusion its up to about 14% they will probably give him
Poor Ziggy! About 6 months ago I told all of you that Ziggy's second feline
leukemia test came back negative and he was ok and cured. Well I was wrong.
He was losing weight and just not acting like himself (he was hiding and
not playing with the other kitties). So i took him to the vet last
Please keep us posted on Ziggy. Poor baby. I hope he is home
with you soon.
elizabeth
In a message dated 9/11/2006 7:29:01 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Poor
Ziggy! About 6 months ago I told all of you that Ziggy's second feline
leukemia test came back
Clearly identify why you think you want to be a 501(c)(3). There's a lot of paperwork every year to maintain that status and, in some states,you become subject to legal requirements that do not apply to independent rescues. What do you hope to gain by becoming a 501(c)(3) nonprofit? - Grant
Thanks for the things to think about.
There are definite advantages to not filing. The chief one I can think of is not having to deal with a board.
I do have a friend who does Persian rescue and is not a 501(c)(3). She ends up doing stuff I am not willing to do, though, like putting second
Hi Jeni,
If you haven't find anyone yet you can try to call murray hill animal
hospital and ask for sarah. I don't know if she still works there, but
she does petsitting. The ph # to the hospital is 212 685 2857
Good luck!
On 9/9/06, JENI RECA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
I know this maybe a
Then perhaps a timeline and a business plan, with obtaining 501(c)(3) status part of the timeline rather than a starting point.Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Thanks for the things to think about.There are definite advantages to not filing. The chief one I can think of is not
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