Hi Bonnie,
That is terrible, how could they do that...But what can we do? Lisa
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Subject: Re: cat and dog fur
The Phillippines is also a source
Stop buying furs period and fake furs of unknown or questionable origin.
Like the tome says...fur belongs on beautiful animals and ugly people.
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Thanks. She's been off supplements entirely, although I did give her some
just before her surgery to try to beef up her immune system, and that is around
when her diarrhea started (though she did not have diarrhea for the years she
got the supplements before). After the surgery, when the
Using homeopathics is such an individual thing. Hideyo has had great
success with Sulphur and it didn't help Gypsy at all. Patti wrote
about using BioPlasma, (a combination of 12 cell salt remedies), that
helps with nutrient absorption, Gypsy does seem to respond favorably to
that. We've had
Oops, sorry, we're talking about Lucy, not Ginger! :)
N
Nina wrote:
Using homeopathics is such an individual thing. Hideyo has had great
success with Sulphur and it didn't help Gypsy at all. Patti wrote
about using BioPlasma, (a combination of 12 cell salt remedies), that
helps with
I have bone meal and can try it with Lucy, though I am wary of it because
her calcium levels were high two blood tests ago (but normal last blood
test). Her diarrhea started a week ago after sudden diet change and
antibiotics, so it is probably different than Gypsy's problems, but maybe the
Hi, I noticed that there are some bald spots and flakey
inside of ear on all of my four kittens and the mamas nose as welland
I think they are ringworm though they still have URIs that come and go
and cant get rid of (over several weeks now) for some reasons.
Any suggestions on
Cats that have had URI often bust out in ringworm...welcome to my world.Its
from the lowered immune system. I use blue start ointment and it never
fails you can get it in any pharmacy. Or in real bad cases I take them to the
vet and he gives them a liquiddon't know what it is though
Thanks. These kittens are FeLV negative
but is it still common? Let me make sure that I understood what you said - is
your kitty with ringworm Felv negative, too? but has URI and interferon helped
her?
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Hideyo,
Oh man, let's hope your guys don't have ringworm. I've never had to
deal with it myself, but it sounds like a real nightmare! I'll send
you my compiled notes on treatment for it off-list. Does anyone know
how to confirm diagnosis w/o taking a kitty to the vet?
N
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Really? Why is it such a nightmare? Is it
because its contagious and hard to get rid of? It wont kill them
or make them really sick, will they? Someone told me that I should get a black
light to confirm it.
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Yes,
I do rescue. And any cat or dog that has lowered immune system can bust out
in ringworm.
Yes its now a practice here that any cat or kitten neg or positive gets
interferon with URI. I have viral URI going around in all the pounds. And I darn
near lost a mom with 4 week olds but the
Yeah use a black light..that's how you can tell for
sure.
No ringworm wont make them any sicker its just a pain to get rid of and it
could take a couple of months for the hair to grow
back
What I am really concerned is that what
caused to have such a lower immune system among my kitties
Do you use alpha interferon?.. any side
effects on interferon?
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Some times kittens getting over ringworm dont make adoption for a long time
cause its unsighly...we just wait till the fur grows completely back
see our
available orphans at:http://members.petfinder.org/~TX418/index.htmlKaren
817-453-4888
The URI and probably stress caused the low immune system. Yes I use Alpha
he mixes it for adults and then for kittens I have never had any side effects
with Negatives or positives.
I am positive it is what is making the difference here.
They seem to bounce back faster and better.
see our
I need prescription to get interferon,
right?
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in kittens
The URI and probably stress
Where do I get a black light? Do they
have it at Walgreen or something?
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I got mine at walmart.
Children are more suseptible than adults but if you have dryer sking then
you are more likely to catch it. I caught it when Bramble had it. You can apply
iodiene on the ringworm areas to help the fungal spores from spreading - Bramble
used to like the iodiene as it is kept in the fridge so
I have had cats sleep in bed with me and never caught it. My oldest
daughter 22 years old we use as the ringworm tester if she is in the same room
she catches it !
Did you try the black light method? If you take them into a dark area and shine the black light on it if it glows greenish it is definately ringworm.but be careful sometimes ringworm does not glow green.Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi, I noticed that there are some bald spots
My most recent kitten Mystery had ringworm, without my knowledge and I brought her in my house of 10 cats, 1 dog and my sonmy FeLV+ cat is the only one that caught it and of course I did also...it is really bad, I used an antibactial spray three days on and 1 day off for 3 weeks and that
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Children are more suseptible than adults but if you have dryer sking then you are more likely to catch it. I caught it when Bramble had it. You can apply iodiene on the ringworm areas to help the fungal spores from spreading -
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Children are more suseptible than adults but if you have dryer sking then you are more likely to catch it. I caught it when Bramble had it. You can apply iodiene on the ringworm areas to help the fungal
I sure hope you don't have the RW :( This is
not fun but I knew we'd have it eventually since I do a little rescue and have a
herd of cats. Little Ms Purrsy brought it with her and was diagnosed
early-mid August ... I was so very careful handling her, isolated her
immediately in her condo
Del.Blue Star ointmentbeing using it for 10 years. You can get it
at any pharmacy.
like any rescue I get it. but the blue star has always worked for me. 5.00
a jar
Nina - how about posting your compiled notes on
treatment on this list ... with so many different strains of RW what doesn't
work on one may work on another.
Del
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How often do you useBlue Star ointmenton the area? Twice
a day?
Del
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Del.Blue Star
once per day.never seen it fail
Thanks, Nina.
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It's pretty long and not organized in any fashion. I
can't vouch for any of it, but when I
Info can be found
here:
www.guaranteed-ringworm-cure.com/eguide
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Ringworm Gel: http://www.petsbestrx.com/ringworm/
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I always use Gentian Violet - or sometimes use Golden Seal. Both are
anti-fungals.
I'm a-gonna go get me some Blue Star ointment to try! Got a ringworm kitty
here...
Gloria
At 01:47 PM 10/31/2005, you wrote:
Del.Blue Star ointmentbeing using it for 10 years. You can get it
at any
Gentian Violet ... messy though, isn't it? I remember that from when
I was a child (many, many, many moons ago), didn't know it was still
available.
Del
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Is this safe for 12 wk old kittens?
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once per day.never seen it fail
Sure thing - My grandmother told us to use it when I was about 10 and had
ringworm. Dr had given us some messy white cream. But the Gentian Violet
knocked it out pronto.
BUT very messy. I put it on my cats VERY carefully! And sometimes, it's
just not the right thing.
Gloria
At 02:36 PM
I am very much the same way - I also learned my lessons hard way.. when
they are spayed/neutered, I actually wait while they are in surgery...
my vet accommodate my desire to be there.. so as soon as I take a cat,
they will start on surgery without waiting around which can be stressful
for my
DO NOT USE TEA TREE OIL ON
CATS
Yes my Katrina kittens were 7 weeks old. Ringworm, earmites, Rhino and
chlymedia I used blue star on both.Whisper has since been adopted. I have a
6 week old here now from the pound with URI he gets both interferon and blue
star it cleared up after one week.
Well, it has been a roller coaster of a weekend for
me. My poor husband probably thinks I have gone
bonkers. I called in sick (in tears) to work Thursday
evening (for Friday) because I thought I was going to
have to take Cricket to be PTS if he started having
difficulty breathing due to low
Amy, I'm all the way in Texas and don't know anyone
in NY. Try contacting Best Friends (bestfriends.org)
and see if they have a contact. Good luck. Wendy
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I had sent this e-mail out last week regarding a
leuk
positive kitty. I haven't followed up
Healing prayers coming your way for cricket.
Karen
I hope I find somebody. This woman can't keep the
kitten much longer and I've never had to give up
trying to find a home for one yet. There are just so
many out there.
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Amy, I'm all the way in Texas and don't know anyone
in NY. Try contacting Best Friends
When human gets it, is it itchy?
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Yes my Katrina kittens were 7 weeks old.
Now I feel so overwhelmed already,
because I am sure that they have RW all of 4 kittens have bold patches
on their ears and some on faces I am now depressed - I really
dont have a place to separate them please forward me RW yahoo
group I would appreciate it. What is the name of gel
I wonder if I have it.. I have some red
spots its sort of stings and itchy--- is it RW? Its encouraging
to know that most of your kitties did not get it. What spray did you use on
you? What is Difulcan is it over the counter drug?
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I havent I have to go get
it since I have 5 cats with bald spots, I am hoping that it will tell
me something if anyone has RW
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I hope Cricket continues to do well. It is true that there is always
some chance of rejection of a transfusion. But an rbc of 8 is so low that
I feared he would die within a few days without one. I am glad to see he is
proving us wrong so far, and hope he continues to. Dr. Lies swears I-R
Don't panic. Ringworm is a very common fungi in the environment.Most of us and our pets come into contact with it every day and do not become infected. Most outbreaks are due to immune system issues. There is a more than reasonable chance that no human will get the ringworm from your cats. I had a
I just went to my local pharmacy and asked for Blue Star Ointment. He
carries it, but is out and is going to order some more.
Gloria
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Yes, please don't use Tea Tree Oil on or around cats.
And if it's a small amount in a product (like Halo
makes an earwash that has T.T. listed in it) I won't
use it either because I wonder what effect it has on
their liver.
Janine
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Hmm, I don't know if there's one on Long Island.
Terri in NJ
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Red spots stings and itchy ... yup, probably
RW.
Del
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Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 6:15
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Subject: RE: OT: Help ! ringworm in
kittens
I wonder if I have
it.. I have some
This is what I posted earlier, you may have
seen it by now. Someone also suggested Blue Star ointment and it is cheap
... maybe I'll buy that, too, andtry it on some of my furkids.
Revival animal supply catalog has two pages on RW and their suggestions, which
include selling alltheir
Will ringworm show up under a 'black light'??
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Hideyo,Oh man, let's hope your guys don't have ringworm. I've never had to deal with it myself, but it sounds like a real nightmare! I'll send you my compiled notes on treatment for it off-list. Does anyone know how to
Hideyo,
Ringworm is a nightmare. You need to quarantine those kittens right away. Preferably in a basement or somewhere totally away from the others. Meanwhile... the spores spread through the air. If possible I would put them in cages and put sheets over the cages to try to keep it from
I got mine at petsmart.Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Where do I get a black light? Do they have it at Walgreen or something?
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You can also try lotromin. (athlete's foot cream)
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Children are more suseptible than adults but if you have dryer sking then you are more likely to catch it. I caught it when Bramble had it. You can apply iodiene on the ringworm areas to help the fungal spores from
Yes,
Luckily some people (and animals) are not as susceptible to it. My boyfriend had it bad enough he had to finally go to the doctor, yet I never got it
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Hello everyone,
I am new to the list and wanted to introduce myself and tell about why I am
here. I appreciate you taking a minute to read about us.
My name is Sandy and until recently I've had 3 adult cats who I love like
fuzzy children. I have a stepdaughter who moved home this summer for a
Did you say on the ears and nose?? I don't think it's that common in those areas. Sure it's not earmites?
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Is this safe for 12 wk old kittens?
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Hi Sandy,
I'm sorry for your loss, and I'm sorry you had to find us. I don't have time for a long reply right now, but you were right not to let your vet euthanize your cat.
My opinion is the first thing you need to do is go ahead and vaccinate your negative cat. Quarantine it and booster in 3
Additionally, the positive results you've just received could be positive simply because they were recently exposed. Many times a cat will test positive after exposure, but then clear the virus after a period of time. Especially this is true for healthy adult cats. Don't give up!
tonya
No, the RW does not always flouresce. And it
can (did) get kind of nasty before it did show up. Doc's wood's light is
much stronger than my $15 UV light ... his didn't floresce either! Which
makes diagnosis more frustrating. Once you have a dx on one cat you can
fairly assume the other
My kitties have RW on the backs of their ears, fur
loss on the tips without lesionson the tips(yet), lesions and fur
loss on the foreheads, one lesionon the flank, fur loss spotson paws
and tail, fur loss spots on the nose ... Often the other cats
have been exposed before any dx is made and
Gloria,
grocery stores also carry it.
ringworm is extremely common on the outside of the
ear..
Sandy,
Sorry for the FeLV+ status of your kitties, it is
scary at first, and heartbreaking. They can live good lives even though
they may not be as long as we'd like. Go ahead and vaccinate your
negatives for FeLV+. If you can separate the + fm the - it is recommended
although many on the
Guys,
I tried all the lastest from revival with ringworm...nothing works like
the old fashioned stuff. Blue star. its thick and prevents it from spreading. it
smells bad and they dont lick it.
My daughter really suffers cuase she is allergic to the blue star too so
she uses iodine and benedryl for the itch
I never get it...
Thanks for the ideas. I've stayed clear of any kinds of grains,
fruits, or veggies because she's so diet sensitive. I did try
Metamucil and other fibers, they didn't help her. Her diarrhea (IBD),
I strongly suspect was brought on by an accidental over-vaccination.
It's been tough to get a
Hi Sandy!
It's always a little bittersweet welcoming new members to the list,
FeLV is such a devastating disease...but you won't find a more
knowledgable, more caring group of people!! :) I'm also in the
Houston area (Seabrook, to be exact), so if there's anything you need,
please don't
Wendy,
I'm very pleased to hear you and Cricket are hanging in there. I'm
praying big time that the IR helps him over his anemia. Bless you guys,
I know how hard that roller coaster ride can be, most of us do. Try
very hard to continue to take care of yourself, keep your spirits up and
Sorry, it's getting past my bed-time...hard to form a thought! What I
meant for the lysine dosage: 500 mg per day split between two meals
(250 mg per meal)!
Jen
But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will be
unique
Guys,
couldn't her adult cats be showing a false positive just from being
exposed and then pull a negative later? Your right the disease isnt that easy
spread. especially in healthy adults with history of being
vaccinated
Hi Sandy,
Take a deep breath, you're doing fine. You cared enough to know that
euthanasia is not the answer and you researched well enough to find us.
I would strongly suggest finding a different vet. It's a real hot
button with me how many people who should know better suggest pts at the
Hi all
I've just started a new bag to give Pookie his fluids--and I can't tell on
this bag where the discernible water level is! I actually let some go down
the sink in an effort to find the level and that didn't work. I've never
started a new bag before (I'm still fumbling my way around subQs)
Kerry,
This is what the vet techs who work for my vet do. They get a clean
syringe and put a needle on the end. Then they inject air into the bag
via the medicine port.
As a nurse on the CRF list objected to this, thinking of humans no
doubt, I asked the vet school pharmacist who she said
Another question-- i have a spare unused couple of Ringer's bags that i
bought last year. I tried to fit one up just now (I can see the fluid level
on these) but there's no fluid coming out when I unlock it---obviously
I'm doing something wrong. Any idea what I need to do to get this bag
working
Thanks Bonnie---which bit is the medicine port--is it the hole at the bottom
of the bag (once the bag's unsealed) that you put the hose in? Do i take
the hose back out to put the air in--won't the fluid pour out then? Oh dear!
Kerry
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