Re: OT: Will be away!

2005-02-15 Thread Cherie A Gabbert
Good luck BrendaI be thinking about ya ;-)) Cherie"Brenda K. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi All.    Just wanted to let everybody know that my daughter and I will be leaving tomorrow late morning for Minneapolis.  I have to have an angiogram Thursday morning related to being a heart tr

RE: Ginger's appointment

2005-02-15 Thread Cherie A Gabbert
I mix mine, before I knew Amber was positive, my cats were co-existing, for a year or more, then I had a sudden death, and tested all, and 1 came up positive, but I still have everyone together. There has been much discussion on how long the virus is alive outside the body, and my vet still holds

Re: OT Humor: We're Having A Puppy!

2005-02-15 Thread Brenda K. Smith
Terrie.     :) I knew I had to send it on.  It is so true.  I know most of us on this list have dealt with stupid people trying to rid of their dogs or cats for the same reasons.  I especially like the ones I hear or read about that can't take their dog/cat to another state where they are

Re: OT: Will be away!

2005-02-15 Thread Brenda K. Smith
Thank you, Terrie.  I'm sure you all will get sick of hearing about Lovey and Merrie. :) -- Brenda. http://www.whiskersandwicks.com http://www.cheqnet.net/~bksmith "The only risk you ever run in befriending a cat is enriching yourself." - Colette Don't Take

Re: OT: Will be away!

2005-02-15 Thread Brenda K. Smith
Thanks, Gloria. :) -- Brenda. http://www.whiskersandwicks.com http://www.cheqnet.net/~bksmith "The only risk you ever run in befriending a cat is enriching yourself." - Colette Don't Take Your Organs To Heaven. Heaven Knows We Need Them Here. Gloria B. Lane wrote: Than

Re: OT Humor: We're Having A Puppy!

2005-02-15 Thread TatorBunz
I LOVE IT! LMAO   That was what I needed to cheer me up for the day! Thanks for sending it!   Terrie MohrCheck site for available Siameses for adoption!More will be posted soon.http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescuehttp://hometown.aol.c

Re: My Lucky is gone/Hubby update

2005-02-15 Thread TatorBunz
Julie,     Your husband is in my thoughts and prayers. I'm sending a bunch of good vibes your way from all my kitties with headbutts and all.   Terrie MohrCheck site for available Siameses for adoption!More will be posted soon.http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/http://groups.yahoo.

Re: OT: Will be away!

2005-02-15 Thread TatorBunz
Brenda,     I wish you the best of luck and hope everything goes as planned for you. Have a safe drive there as well. Look forward to hearing about Lovey's stories from you. We will hear from you when you get back!    :)   Terrie MohrCheck site for available Siameses for adoption!More will be po

Re: OT: Will be away!

2005-02-15 Thread Gloria B. Lane
Thanks Brenda, we'll be thinking of you - Gloria At 09:07 PM 2/15/2005, you wrote: Hi All. Just wanted to let everybody know that my daughter and I will be leaving tomorrow late morning for Minneapolis. I have to have an angiogram Thursday morning related to being a heart transplant pat

OT: Will be away!

2005-02-15 Thread Brenda K. Smith
Hi All.     Just wanted to let everybody know that my daughter and I will be leaving tomorrow late morning for Minneapolis.  I have to have an angiogram Thursday morning related to being a heart transplant patient.  I know I don't write much, but with all this going on with the transport o

Re: I'm so sorry about Scully

2005-02-15 Thread S D
Thanks a lot. I am still in shock and trying to understand what just happened. I only learned about FelV a week ago today and haven't had time to question everything. As I get back into a routine and over this sadness I need to learn more about this disease!   I am staying hopeful about Rookie. He

Re: any thoughts?

2005-02-15 Thread Kerry MacKenzie
>>>Any thoughts on how to help ease his grief? I guess lots and lots of love and attention (which he is doubtless getting already) and when the time is right a new compatible companion to cuddle up with. By the way, do you know about the Candlelight Service that Belinda (Sauro) (thank yo

OT Humor: We're Having A Puppy!

2005-02-15 Thread Brenda K. Smith
Hi All. A rescuer sent me this. Thought all you rescuers would get it. :) Anyone involved in rescue should be able to see the humor in this RESCUE HELP NEEDED ASAP: Please help After two long years of being on a waiting list for an agility dog, we have been notified by the bre

I'm so sorry about Scully

2005-02-15 Thread Kerry MacKenzie
Hi and welcome! I'm so sorry you lost your dear little friend Scully--I can well imagine the shock you must be in. I hope the memories you have of her--she sounds like a truly wonderful little soul--bring you comfort at this sad time. As Julie (I believe) said, we're sorry for the reason you

Re: My Lucky is gone/Hubby update

2005-02-15 Thread Kerry MacKenzie
Dear Julie Your husband's surgeon sounds fabulous--as you say, just the sort of doc we want for our kitties! I'm so glad things are progressing in a hopeful way for Steve--I do hope the medication works and makes the surgery unnecessary. Sending lots of positive vibes your way. take care, Ker

RE: any thoughts?

2005-02-15 Thread S D
Cherie A Gabbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:   So I ask you was Rookie, previous vaccinated against FeLV and if he was then he could very well be positive, now. The same would go for Scully, Scully might had had the virus and been vaccinated before testing for the virus therefore would come up ne

RE: any thoughts?

2005-02-15 Thread S D
Thanks again. It is great to have so much support. Please bear with me as I learn how to navigate through this newsgroup. I hope that my replies reach people!     Had Scully been tested before and been negative?  No, she had not been tested. There didn't seem to be a reason to.     I hope your ot

Re: any thoughts?

2005-02-15 Thread S D
Thanks so much.  did your vet suggest testing Rookie again in 4-6 months? regards     She said that he would probably be fine. I could test him, but it is not necessary. I'm having a hard time accepting that. I would love to bring a new playmate in for Rookie - however I don't want to put anyone

Re: any thoughts?

2005-02-15 Thread S D
Thanks for your kind thoughts. It really helps with the sadness.What exactly did your vet do for Scully when she presented her symptoms? Scully was treated for upper respiratory illness (antibiotics). When I first took her to the vet she only had a slightly runny eye and was beginning to sneeze m

RE: Ginger's Miracle

2005-02-15 Thread catatonya
Hi Hideyo,   I'm glad you made it to the list.   My advice, for what it's worth, would be to vaccinate all my cats for felv.  If your cats are mostly rescues, strays, it's likely that some of them are latent carriers of felv and you don't know it.  Meanwhile they could be infecting others.   I agre

Re: Gary and Melange

2005-02-15 Thread catatonya
Congratulations on all your great news, Jill!Jill Poe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Gary is actually looking almost completely back tonormal. Her nose is not getting much paler. We havetapered down her appetite stimulants to almost nothingbecause they make her so tired. She is still eating alot (babyf

Re: any thoughts?

2005-02-15 Thread catatonya
Hi,   I'm sorry to hear about Scully.  I've been on the list for years, and yes, leukemia kitties often get sick and go downhill very fast.  It happened with the first one I lost.  I basically lost her from upper respiratory.   But she was so sick and was part feral that I couldn't medicate her wel

OT: I'm sorry

2005-02-15 Thread Brenda K. Smith
Sorry everyone for sending two messages. I thought I had canceled and stopped the first email, but apparently not. :( -- Brenda. http://www.whiskersandwicks.com http://www.cheqnet.net/~bksmith "The only risk you ever run in befriending a cat is enriching yourself." -

OT: Please Help 1 Leg - Bloomington, IL - Mendota, IL - Sun 2/20

2005-02-15 Thread Brenda K. Smith
Hi All.     Please cross post widely!!  My new adopted wonderful kitties are almost home. :)  There will be one more cat on this transport I think.  A lady in Indianapolis adopting a cat from Atlanta, GA. This is the last half of a long transport for these sweet kitties.  The first ha

OT: Please Help 1 Leg - Bloomington, IL - Mendota, IL - Sun 2/20

2005-02-15 Thread Brenda K. Smith
Hi All.     We cross post widely!!  My new adopted wonderful kitties are almost home. :)  There will be one more cat on this transport I think.  A lady in Indianapolis adopting a cat from Atlanta, GA. This is the last half of a long transport for these sweet kitties.  The first half i

RE: Ginger's appointment

2005-02-15 Thread Barb Moermond
If you search the FeLV archives, you will find good descriptions of onset symptoms of both the wet and dry forms of FIP - dry being much harder to detect, much more subtle.  I don't think that I would worry about it unless they started showing signs of the wet form.  What kind of supplements do you

RE: Ginger's appointment

2005-02-15 Thread Barb Moermond
Good for you for rescuing and keeping:) I really wouldn't be worried about kitties having a positive corona virus titer - most do actually as there are so many corona viruses, but vaccinating can be a complicated decision.  Do you have a table or closet or shelf or something right outside G

RE: Ginger's appointment

2005-02-15 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto
Yep. I know – there are going to be some risks to everyone unfortunately – especially when you have so many cats already like I do – I have in the past 3 to 4 years spent worrying about my cats getting FIP every time they run a high fever and sneeze – unlike FeLV, there is no definite diag

RE: Ginger's appointment

2005-02-15 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto
Actually, right now I am not planning on vaccinating them at all, especially FeLV vaccinations  – I know this is always a controversial issue for most of us – it’s a tricky situation for me, as all of my corona virus positive kitties, which is 90 % of mine are going to have a greater risk o

Re: Ginger's appointment

2005-02-15 Thread Nina
My red stemmed needles have 20 x 5/8 written on them.  I also have needles with pink stems they have 25 x 3/4 on them, I didn't look at the blue stemmed ones, but they are definitely bigger. Nina Hideyo Yamamoto wrote: Do you know the size of the needles you use? 

RE: Ginger's appointment

2005-02-15 Thread Barb Moermond
I would think that until they are all vaccinated (if you're planning on doing that) your bleach and clothes changing would do the trick.  If you are tired of doing laundry, use Lysol on the clothes, because Lysol will kill the virus.  Depending on what your set-up is, you could have a changing room

Re: Ginger's appointment

2005-02-15 Thread Nina
That was my concern with Hideyo's other cats, if I read her post correctly, her other cats are not vaccinated.  I mix my pos and neg, everyone has access to each other.  But my negs are all vaccinated.  I don't think there's great cause for concern either, but it worries me that your FelV- have

RE: Ginger's appointment

2005-02-15 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto
Do you know the size of the needles you use?  I usually use 20 or 18 gauze needles for fluid (one is pink cap and the other is light blue cap), but the one vet gave with vitamin shots are so much larger – and I was not comfortable with it.   Ginger is tortoiseshell – I wonder if it has a

Re: Ginger's appointment

2005-02-15 Thread Nina
Hideyo, I use the tiny needles for everything, including the Vita B injections.  I don't know why you wouldn't be able to use them.  I have different vets for different cats/purposes and Gypsy's vet did send me home with the larger needles, I'm just not using them and have had no problem.  I do

RE: Ginger's appointment

2005-02-15 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto
Sorry – correction!!  I meant – “even with the fact that most of my cats are NOT vaccinated for FeLV ?     -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hideyo Yamamoto Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 4:03 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org S

RE: Ginger's appointment

2005-02-15 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto
With given the fact that most of my cats are vaccinated for FeLV ? When I took Ginger in – I knew there is going to be a risk – but I wanted to make sure I do everything I can given benefits/risk of all the factors. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECT

RE: Ginger's appointment

2005-02-15 Thread Barb Moermond
With those precautions, I think you're completely safe.  The concensus is that it takes prolonged intimate contact to transfer the virus and that the virus is extremely fragile and short-lived outside the host.  There are many people on this list who mix their positives and negatives knowingly for

RE: Ginger's appointment

2005-02-15 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto
I am not sure which doctor studied it, but I will do some research and try to find out.   Do you think there is a great risk of my other cats to get FeLV?  I do worry –I wash my hands with bleach (1-bleach & 8 water) all the time, before and after visiting Ginger, and change my clothes a

Re: Gary and Melange

2005-02-15 Thread Lernermichelle
Jill, could you send a list of every treatment Gary has gotten/is getting for the anemia? I know you did before, but I can not find it and want to save it. My memory tells me she got a transfusion, a dex shot, and is on Epogen. Anything else? And her HCT was down to 10, right? Thanks, Michelle

Re: Gary and Melange

2005-02-15 Thread Lernermichelle
That is absolutely amazing about gary and I hope to god it continues. I really wonder what is happening with her, as I lost Simon to a sudden plunge in HCT, and while he had lymphoma they did not think the anemia directly caused by it at the end. Maybe if he had withstood the catheterization a

RE: Ginger's appointment

2005-02-15 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto
Dear Julie, Thank you so much for your response.  It actually helps me a lot and I am so glad that you understand how I feel (that’s a price less reward) –  I think, I will wait – I can always take her, but right now, there is no reason to stress her. And I think and hope that Ginger will

vaccine-related carcinomas

2005-02-15 Thread TenHouseCats
do a google search for "Feline VAS" and there's lots and lots of stuff--as usual, you'll have to judge the value of the data yourself. i know that what i've been told is that it was an ingredient in the injection, the adjuvant(?), that was the problem, and that most vaccine makers have changed

OT: Do NOT adopt to this person!

2005-02-15 Thread Brenda K. Smith
Hi All.     Received this from Jenny just now.  Please crosspost widely!  Thanks. JENNIFER RYAN CADIEU wrote: Permission to crosspost Subject: [SIBERNET] Do not adopt to this person From: Peg Moore <[EMA

Re: OT-Simba is missing

2005-02-15 Thread Faye Lewis
I have had him nearly 10 years. I got him as a 5 week old kitten. He was feral but he has tamed considerably. He and I are very close. He just isn't a people cat--except family. He is quite attached to me. My mother too. He likes to sleep inside the house. I am trying to mentally communicat

Re: Ginger's appointment

2005-02-15 Thread Barb Moermond
needle size might be a factor for the injection site sarcomas - combined with the substance being injected.   Hideyo, if possible, could a vet come to the house and do a blood draw there?  Getting a good set of baseline values is important and that way, stress would be minimized.Julie Johnson <[EMA

Re: Ginger's appointment

2005-02-15 Thread Nina
Hideyo,     >and what they found out is that cancers/tumors are not caused by vaccine itself, but rather by “injections” – they did testing with a control group with saline solutions and they still found cancers/tumors from the group I hadn't heard this before, and it is of great concern to

Re: Ginger's appointment

2005-02-15 Thread Julie Johnson
Hi Hideyo,   It can be really hard to decide on a trip to the vet when kitty is doing well; especially if the kitty is feral.   I think bloodwork can be so important, though; it can alert us to very slight changes over time that produce no symptoms.  It's really a tough call; maybe plan to take her

Ginger's appointment

2005-02-15 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto
After going back and forth, I decided not to take Ginger to her appointment yesterday after all.  She has been doing well, and I wanted to minimize any chances of stressing her if I could avoid it.  She is a feral cat, and she is extremely skittish and I guess, since she has been doing so w

Re: any thoughts?

2005-02-15 Thread Terri Brown
We've all been there.  Big hugs to you.   Goodnight, sweet Scully...   =^..^= Terri, Salome', Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Sammi, and 5 furangels: RuthieGirl, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth and Alec =^..^=   Furkid Photos! http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7sgqa/My FeLV Site: http://pages.

Re: OT-Simba is missing

2005-02-15 Thread Nina
If he's feral, would he go back to wherever it was that you found him? Maybe you could start putting food out there. I'm glad he's just been to the vet, at least he's had a recent check up. Maybe if/when Patricia makes contact, she can convince him to come home. I'd bargain with him, tell h

RE: OT-Simba is missing

2005-02-15 Thread Faye Lewis
We don't have a shelter. We are really rural. No one gets all hot and bothered about a loose animal unless they are attacking livestock. Which these stupid dogs are. Simba is feral and won't approach any human but my mother and myself. the few neighbors I have are good people and wouldn't

Re: OT-Simba is missing

2005-02-15 Thread Faye Lewis
Thank you Nina. I tried the whistle it did not work. I live in a rural area with neighbors fairly far apart. I did put food out but it has not been touched. I did call the AC you recommended and set up an appointment for tonight after work. The good thing is that the dogs have not been back

RE: OT-Simba is missing

2005-02-15 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Ditto---praying for Simba's safe return, Faye. Kerry PS I want to come back as a cat in Nina's house. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nina Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 1:20 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: OT-Simba is mis

RE: Gary and Melange

2005-02-15 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
That's SUCH great news about Gary and Melange, Jill! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jill Poe Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 1:15 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Gary and Melange Gary is actually looking almost completely ba

Re: Gary and Melange

2005-02-15 Thread Julie Johnson
I'm so happy for your good news, Jill!  You tell those silly kitties to keep up the good work!Jill Poe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Gary is actually looking almost completely back tonormal. Her nose is not getting much paler. We havetapered down her appetite stimulants to almost nothingbecause they m

Re: Gary and Melange

2005-02-15 Thread Nina
Hooray! I'm thrilled to hear that Gary is doing so well. Prayers and good thoughts coming that she keeps this up. It's also great that you have a diagnosis about Melange and a plan to help his UTI! Nina Jill Poe wrote: Gary is actually looking almost completely back to normal. Her nose is n

Re: OT-Simba is missing

2005-02-15 Thread Nina
Faye, What's going on with Simba? Have you seen him at all? Did you call an AC? Did you try the whistle? Are you putting food out for him? When my Ursula went missing I drove my entire neighborhood crazy until she showed back up. My mom made cards with her picture on them and all the pert

Gary and Melange

2005-02-15 Thread Jill Poe
Gary is actually looking almost completely back to normal. Her nose is not getting much paler. We have tapered down her appetite stimulants to almost nothing because they make her so tired. She is still eating a lot (babyfood only with lots of vitamins) and looks more alert now. She is followin

Re: any thoughts?

2005-02-15 Thread Nina
SD, I'm so sorry you lost your sweet Scully.  What a terrible shock to your family.  I'm glad you found us though.  It is quite possible that Rookie is indeed negative.  There are many, many negative cats that live and love with positives that remain negative.  Please try not to stress yourself

Re: Gary - Immunoregulin

2005-02-15 Thread Nina
>A lot of vets do not like to send home drawn injections, though. If you have a vet that doesn't want to give you med injections to administer at home, appeal to them, argue with them and if they still don't want to trust you to do it, find another vet. It makes a world of difference in reducin

Re: Gary - Immunoregulin

2005-02-15 Thread Lernermichelle
If she will give you the shots, you can give them subcutaneously at home without having to stress her by bringing her in.  I did that.  A lot of vets do not like to send home drawn injections, though. Michelle

Re: any thoughts?

2005-02-15 Thread Barbara Lowe
Hello and welcome to the group. Sorry you lost your Scully so unexpectedly. I have two siblings and only one was positive. Jelly Roll passed away last Nov at 2 1/2 yrs old. His sister is negative-just tested her again-and doing fine. they played together, groomed each other all their lives.

RE: any thoughts?

2005-02-15 Thread Julie Johnson
Hi and welcome.  I'm so very sorry to hear about Scully; my heart goes out to you.   Had Scully been tested before and been negative?  I had a cat, Encore, who had repeatedly tested negative, became rather suddenly ill (thin and anemic), and tested positive for FeLV at about 4 years of age.  The on

Re: My Lucky is gone

2005-02-15 Thread Julie Johnson
Thank you so much; you're right, her spirit will always be with me.TenHouseCats <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: i'm sorry, too, julie. something that someone told me once that sort of helped (since words really can't do that much) is that the pain we feel when they leave comes from their clawing their p

Re: My Lucky is gone/Hubby update

2005-02-15 Thread Julie Johnson
Thank you so much, Tonya, and thank you for keeping Steve and me in your thoughts.   We met with another vascular surgeon last week and we both really liked him; he has a great reputation and was very good at explaining (without being condescending) and showing us treatment options. There is a medi

Re: My Lucky is gone

2005-02-15 Thread Julie Johnson
Thank you, Barbara.  You're right; the time together is never long enough.   JulieBarbara Lowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Dear Julie, I am so so sorry for the loss of Lucky. Poor baby. I am glad you all had the holidays and some quality loving time together after her surgery. How rotten to lose

OT: skin problems

2005-02-15 Thread Cherie A Gabbert
Well according to an article I have recently read at http://www.pressenter.com/~dvmvis/ringworm.htm the hair shaft may be brocken with no other symptoms, so we are opting to wait a week before she comes home with me. Cherie  

RE: My Lucky is gone

2005-02-15 Thread Julie Johnson
Dear Hideyo,   Thank you so much for your kind words and thoughts.   I am so happy to meet you, but sorry you needed to find us; like Kerry, I didn't see your original post about Ginger.  You've already learned that this is the most wonderful and knowledgable group of folks you'll ever be fortunate

Re: Immuno-Regulin

2005-02-15 Thread Cherie A Gabbert
I had a chance to read the article and put a call into my vet to ask her about it. Cherie[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am just wondering if anyone on the list has used Immuno-regulin, and why we never talk about it as a potential remedy for anemia that is not diagnosable? The article on the felinele

RE: Immuno-Regulin

2005-02-15 Thread Cherie A Gabbert
Thanks I will check that out Cherie"Doljan, Joan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I saw that you can get Immunoregulan without a prescription from RevivalAnimal Health.-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 4:03 PMTo: felvtalk@felinele

RE: any thoughts?

2005-02-15 Thread Cherie A Gabbert
  First of all I am very sorry to hear of your loss. I am sure Scully had a very full life with you. I would also like to say Hi and Welcome, We have had tons of list problems recently, but we are getting through them, I had to pull your email off of archives because it did not post on my system.

Re: Lucky

2005-02-15 Thread Julie Johnson
Thank you, Jill.  The shock of the unexpected really compounds the pain, as you know.    Sending all best wishes and healing energy to your kids.   Love, Julie Jill Poe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Julie, I'm so sorry about your little Lucky. I knowwhat it feels like to go to the vet and get a shock

RE: Immuno-Regulin

2005-02-15 Thread Doljan, Joan
I saw that you can get Immunoregulan without a prescription from Revival Animal Health. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 4:03 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Immuno-Regulin I have used it for Anemia with

any thoughts?

2005-02-15 Thread S D
Hi, I am new to this list and had some trouble signing up last week. However, I will post the update first and then the original email I had tried to send. On Sat. Feb 12, I put my little friend Scully to rest. She was really beginning to suffer the effects of FelV and I couldn't bear to watch h