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Once you reach a certain point though, the subq's don't help anymore and you have to go to iv fluids.  I thought that was what she meant when she mentioned iv feeding?  When I lost Willie he had been on subq's, but then they weren't enough.  We then moved to iv, but then that didn't help either.  Anyway, if there's any hope for Ling to live a while longer that would be wonderful!  
 
tonyaBelinda Sauro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Untreated Kidney failure is very hard on cats and they won't eat because they are nauseated, but once the subq's start making them feel better they get their appetites back, also pepcid would help with the nausea and tummy acid. The subq's really need to be done daily if the kidney failure is bad, one here and there won't do it. Once the cat is feeling better then you have to figure out how often to subq, some will need it daily for the rest of their lives.-- BelindaHappiness is being owned by cats ...Be-Mi-Kitties ...http://www.bemikitties.comPost Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittenshttp://adopt.bemikitties.comFeLV Candle Light Servicehttp://www.bemikitties.com/clsHostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting & web design)http://HostDesign4U.com---BMK Designs (non-profit web
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Re: My Rescue Senior Siamese...not good :(

Terrie,
I hope things go peacefully for Ling at the vet's. He was fortunate to have a loving home for his senior years. Bless you for taking him in and taking such good care of him.
tonya[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Good morning all,
Remember the Senior Siamese that was willed to me?
Well, I'm going to be taking him to the Vet today to send him off to the bridge. He is in the final phase of kidney failure. I don't want him to suffer anymore so I have decided to let him go. He has stopped eating three days ago. I have force fed him and he is throwing it all back up. He has also been fed intravenously as well. He has loss so much weight as well.
He was about 15 yrs old when I got him. He was in poor health and all. He was Hyper-T so that didn't help matters. He had 7 claws imbedded into his pads (minor surgery) and Ear Mites prior to me getting him.
I'm going to do this without my husband around because he always makes it harder. (he is a softy)
So wish "Ling" a safe journey to the bridge.
Terrie MohrCheck site for available Siameses for adoption!http://www.iGive.com/TAZZYShttps://www.paypal.com/TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTShttp://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/Click Here to Join WASHINGTON SIAMESE RESCUE Yahoo Group!http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescueClick Here to Join K9 and Puddy Xpress Yahoo http://groups.yahoo.com/group/K9andPuddyXpress/joinhttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.htmlhttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.htmlTAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTSSIAMESE & COLLIE RESCUEOwner/DriverPetfinder.comAdopt a Homeless Pet!http://www.petfinder.com/http://www.orecatay.com/http://www.awca.net/index.htmhttp://www.felineleukemia.org/http://www.petloss.com/http://www.meezer.com/http://thesiamesestore.com/http://tx.siameserescue.org/adopt.htmlhttp://ca.siameserescue.org/Southern CA. Siamese Rescuehttp://cs.siameserescue.org/Northern CA. Siamese Rescuehttp://cn.siameserescue.org/http://co.siameserescue.org/http://va.siameserescue.org/

Re: Update on the little blind kitten

That's great news, Kat!!Kat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi All,Athena, the little blind kitty, and her sister Artemis went to the vetyesterday. My vet says Artemis weighs 12.5 oz and Athena weighs 11.5 oz.Both got dewormed (strongid) and are too young (only 5 weeks old) to betested or vaccinated, so they'll go back in about 3-4 weeks.

Re: My Rescue Senior Siamese...not good :(

2005-06-28 Thread Sheila208

I'm so sorry Terri, it is hard to say good-bye to these precious old ones. You've been a good Mom and He knows you love him. I'm sure he is thanking you for releasing him from a frail and painful body. God bless you. Sheila

RE: non profit status

If you're not going to fundraise or ask for donations the only benefit would be that the money you spend would be tax exempt.  I don't know what it costs to keep your tax exempt status year to year.  I know here it costs approx. $200 to get incorporated then it costs about $200 more to get tax exempt status.  To keep your incorporation you have to renew each year for $40.  I don't know if there are yearly fees to keep your tax exempt status..
 
tonyaHideyo Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:









Wow  thank you for all the information  I am getting dizzy slightly already 
If I am not getting any donations at all (I am really not gong to solicit for), do I still get a benefit out of this?
 
 




From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of tamara sticklerSent: Monday, June 27, 2005 2:57 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: non profit status 
 

Filing for nonprofit:  (Disadvantageswell...paperwork mostly.  If you aren't extremely organized.either don't do it, or hire someone who is!)  You will need a Board of Directors (3-5 people...I think its different per state), and have to decide on and outline your mission statement, and rules of operation, (this must be available for both the application and public view), your board must vote on and pass this.  (You must notify your board members that they could be held finacially responsible should the nonprofit ever fight or loose a lawsuit.)  You must decide on, and have board members pass, your course of action for dispersment of properties when the nonprofit terminates.  You must make your financial records a matter of public record, available within 30 days (I think) to any (and
 every) person or agency who requests a copy.  If you are granted nonprofit status you must break even or loose money each year.  You can not carry more than (I'm sorry I forget the amount) over each year...but its a small amount.  Lastly you can expect to be audited within the first ten years.  For the first 3-5 years you will be on probationary status.  IF you consistanly file your quarterly taxes, licenses, and other paperwork on time.and your company is precise about what monies come in and where they go, you will most likely be granted full status at the end of that time.  Open a bank account separate from you're ownnever pay cash, only checks or charge with your nonprofit's name on it, deposit EVERY donation, no matter how small, no matter check or cash!

 

Sorry I can't remember more...its been...oh, about 12 years since I started a temporary nonprofit, so I'm a little fuzzy on the specifics- (we started one to fight-expose- another who had become corrupted...long story).  But...once you have been granted perm. status, you can apply for operating grants to help with bookkeeping, building and up keep.  The better your records..the better chance you'll have of applying for and getting assistance.

 

Lastly...God help me, I'm going to quote a woman who started a nonprofit for animals with all the best intentions, and ended a thief -this was overheard at a dinner party,  spoken laughing -"If you want to get rich, start a nonprofit for helping animals!"  The reason I quoted this is thus:  make CERTAIN you have honest, grounded, incorruptable people on your Board of Directors, preferably, one or two who don't agree with you on everything, and a lawyer to help out pro-bono.  Give them equal shares of the power over finances,  make certain they are the types who will demand to stay involved, and pray you're never put to the test.  Money can be very tempting...even to the best intentioned heart.

 

Check with your local community college and enroll in a free lecture or class on starting a nonprofit or talk to a lawyer or Small Business Development Center (usually located at a community college).  Don't do it blindit'll be too expensive in the end.

 

Good luck.

T


Hideyo Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I have a question, as you may know, I rescue cats (most of are strays) with special needs  I fund everything with my income right now and its getting very difficult  as I try to give them the quality food,  quality care.
I have a whats called a refuge permit from the animal services in the city  and I was told by the officer and by other people that I should get a non-profit status (501C)  I know what it is  but what would be the down side of getting such a status?  I know you can get donations and tax break and all that  but I wanted to consider some of the disadvantage by getting it - 
 

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RE: non profit status

Hideyo,
 
First you need to find the website for your state and look up nonprofit incorporation.  On that website it should give you the info. you need to get started.  You would need to apply as a nonprofit corporation first and then get your tax exempt status.  I know it's different in every state, but a lot of people do it themselves without paying someone to help them.  If your boyfriend is a lawyer you 2 could probably do it.  For the tax exempt status you have to already be incorporated and then it's really an accountant you need if you need help.
 
Also,  I would think you would incorporate as a 'sanctuary' so you wouldn't have to do adoptions or anything like that.  Any money that you put into your cats though, would be 'donated' to the sanctuary and therefore would be tax exempt.  It would also free you up to take donations, etc Or do fundraising.
 
tonyaHideyo Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:









It would be great if you could refer me to someone  my boyfriend is a lawyer and he could probably do all the paper work for me, but he is not familiar with all the details at all  I would appreciate it, Michelle!
Thank you!
 




From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 2:24 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: non profit status
 


The details may depend on the state you are in, so the best thing would be to talk to someone in your state.  I can try to refer you to my friend, or you can contact the Animal Legal Defense Fund (they have a website) and ask them for a list of attorney members in your state who might help you with figuring this stuff out. You would not be required to do adoptions, but the animals would become the "property" legally of the nonprofit, not of you (awful, but they are still considered property legally).  The requirements regarding boards do vary, I think.

Michelle

 

 

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Thank you!  Let me ask you this - I am sort of on my own - I have no onereally helping me do anything - I pay all the expenses with my pay checkfrom my job - on a bookkeeping process, do I have to donate my pay checkto my "sanctuary" to get tax break - or how does it work?  Does theboard of directors have to reside in the same country - what's theminimum number of peoples who need to be on the board besides myself -Again, do you have to be adopting out animals to be qualified? Or areyou going to be punished for it?  Does this status have anything to dowith animal services division by any chance (I am trying to stay awayfrom them as much as possible) -

Re: non profit status

I agree, although in Georgia anyway, you can have a one person organization I believe.  
 
tTenHouseCats <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
as far as i am concerned, the advantages FAR outweigh thedisadvantages. you have to do real bookkeeping, keep records, have aboard of directors, have quarterly meetings, and get a certain amountof your funding from the public.most people consider it a huge pain to go through the applicationprocess, and others absolutely hate keeping records. neither aredifficult, just time-consuming. some of us LOVE doing bookkeeping andtaxes (well, you've always known i was a little odd, so this shouldn'tsurprise any of you!)--just find one of us to work with you!there is a yahoo group called, i believe 501(c)3Help, that i know alot of folks have joined and worked with during the process. i'm SUREthere are archived discussions there about reasons for and against!personally, as a bookkeeper for 40 years, i think it is MUCH easierand far
 better in the long run to do everything legally and correctly,whether you go for a 501(c)3 or not--ie, sales tax stuff, incomereporting, etc--that way, no one can ever come back on you and say,"we think an organization of your type should have made $ lastyear---prove to us you didn't."-- MaryChristineAIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCatsMSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ: 289856892

blind siamese if anyone has contacts

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]From: Cathy Saye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 18:37:40 -0700 (PDT)Subject: [kittycityrescue] Blind Siamese cat needs some help in KY

 
I am crossing this post of Blind Siamese... She looks a young cat...She needs some help to go to a cat rescue in special needs.
 
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RE: OT - 2 things

Thanks Stan,
 
This has been going on for at least 2 years.  The sofa started this past year.  So I don't know of any changes.  I do notice that they usually do it when I'm not home a lot and do it less when I'm home more on vacation.  Although I have seen them do it right in front of me at times!
 
The peta thing was referring to an article about peta taking animals from shelters in north carolina and euthanizing them.  The north carolina shelters said they 'thought they were all being given good homes.'
 
tstany petrov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



1-st thing
I think there are lots of reasons for the urinating.
From my personal experience, I know that cats use to do this if they don't like some recent changes you had made in the house. Jersey used to urinate onto my bed. This was when my ex-roomate moved and he liked her. If you have started packing the staff for the new house , that is possible. Cats have good intuition.
2- nd thing.
I ave missed this discussion. Is it possible to adopt tha cats that are endangered?
 
Stan>From: catatonya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" >Subject: OT - 2 things>Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 18:11:35 -0700 (PDT)>>Hi all,>>I have a question some of you might have some advice on.  Some of my cats are continually urinating in inappopriate places.  They are not spraying, but they will go in 2 different corners of my bedroom and my sofa!  :(>>I now put down puppy pads on top of the carpet in my bedroom and fold an old towel on the top.  I have to change these every day.  Also, if I leave clothes or a rug on the floor they will go on those as well.  I keep my sofa covered with a waterproof mattress cover and put a sheet on top of that.  It too, has to be changed almost daily!>>Two of my cats,
 sneaker and popeye, have always gone in the bedroom, but now my positive, DD is doing it too.  What is really weird is that when I change the pads, towels, sheet, whatever to clean ones, she will go and lay in that spot.  Then she'll turn around and pee in the same place she was previously laying.  It's like she can't wait for me to put fresh linen down to go lay there and then later pee on it.  My bed has been doused a couple of times even.>>Any suggestions?  I am moving at the end of July into a new house and I'd really like to stop this behavior with the move. I'm also getting a new sofa. Any ideas?>>One thing I think I will do is put feliway diffusers in every room of the new house before I move the cats over.>>Someone recently posted somewhere to get them very cheaply.  Could you repost that info?>>I have tried these in the past witihout much success, but I'm
 hoping with a new place and really overloading the house with them it will help.  All the cats are healthy, and have had bloodwork, urinalysis etc  In fact I have another cat with a urinary infection right now and he doesn't do this.>>Secondly,  I know it went around on the lists about PETA killing the animals in North Carolina.  I received a new email that stated that peta took the animals from shelters who still use gas chambers for euthanasia.  They stated that they could not find homes for all the animals from these rural shelters, but they thought it was better for them to be humanely euthanized rather than gas.  Being from Georgia, where some shelters still gas, I know this is true.  The letter also stated that peta had given some of these shelters thousands of dollars to improve their facilities as well.  So that's their side of the story.>>The truth may be
 somewhere in the middle.  But I know if I could get the animals from the gas chamber shelters here and euthanize them humanely I would.>>tonya

Re: Urgent: need a home for two healthy cats


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RE: OT - 2 things

2005-06-28 Thread stany petrov


1-st thing
I think there are lots of reasons for the urinating.
From my personal experience, I know that cats use to do this if they don't like some recent changes you had made in the house. Jersey used to urinate onto my bed. This was when my ex-roomate moved and he liked her. If you have started packing the staff for the new house , that is possible. Cats have good intuition.
2- nd thing.
I ave missed this discussion. Is it possible to adopt tha cats that are endangered?
 
Stan>From: catatonya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" >Subject: OT - 2 things>Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 18:11:35 -0700 (PDT)>>Hi all,>>I have a question some of you might have some advice on.  Some of my cats are continually urinating in inappopriate places.  They are not spraying, but they will go in 2 different corners of my bedroom and my sofa!  :(>>I now put down puppy pads on top of the carpet in my bedroom and fold an old towel on the top.  I have to change these every day.  Also, if I leave clothes or a rug on the floor they will go on those as well.  I keep my sofa covered with a waterproof mattress cover and put a sheet on 
top of that.  It too, has to be changed almost daily!>>Two of my cats, sneaker and popeye, have always gone in the bedroom, but now my positive, DD is doing it too.  What is really weird is that when I change the pads, towels, sheet, whatever to clean ones, she will go and lay in that spot.  Then she'll turn around and pee in the same place she was previously laying.  It's like she can't wait for me to put fresh linen down to go lay there and then later pee on it.  My bed has been doused a couple of times even.>>Any suggestions?  I am moving at the end of July into a new house and I'd really like to stop this behavior with the move. I'm also getting a new sofa. Any ideas?>>One thing I think I will do is put feliway diffusers in every room of the new house before I move the cats 
over.>>Someone recently posted somewhere to get them very cheaply.  Could you repost that info?>>I have tried these in the past witihout much success, but I'm hoping with a new place and really overloading the house with them it will help.  All the cats are healthy, and have had bloodwork, urinalysis etc  In fact I have another cat with a urinary infection right now and he doesn't do this.>>Secondly,  I know it went around on the lists about PETA killing the animals in North Carolina.  I received a new email that stated that peta took the animals from shelters who still use gas chambers for euthanasia.  They stated that they could not find homes for all the animals from these rural shelters, but they thought it was better for them to be humanely euthanized rather than 
gas.  Being from Georgia, where some shelters still gas, I know this is true.  The letter also stated that peta had given some of these shelters thousands of dollars to improve their facilities as well.  So that's their side of the story.>>The truth may be somewhere in the middle.  But I know if I could get the animals from the gas chamber shelters here and euthanize them humanely I would.>>tonya

OT - 2 things

Hi all,
 
I have a question some of you might have some advice on.  Some of my cats are continually urinating in inappopriate places.  They are not spraying, but they will go in 2 different corners of my bedroom and my sofa!  :(
 
I now put down puppy pads on top of the carpet in my bedroom and fold an old towel on the top.  I have to change these every day.  Also, if I leave clothes or a rug on the floor they will go on those as well.  I keep my sofa covered with a waterproof mattress cover and put a sheet on top of that.  It too, has to be changed almost daily!
 
Two of my cats, sneaker and popeye, have always gone in the bedroom, but now my positive, DD is doing it too.  What is really weird is that when I change the pads, towels, sheet, whatever to clean ones, she will go and lay in that spot.  Then she'll turn around and pee in the same place she was previously laying.  It's like she can't wait for me to put fresh linen down to go lay there and then later pee on it.  My bed has been doused a couple of times even.
 
Any suggestions?  I am moving at the end of July into a new house and I'd really like to stop this behavior with the move. I'm also getting a new sofa. Any ideas?
 
One thing I think I will do is put feliway diffusers in every room of the new house before I move the cats over.
 
Someone recently posted somewhere to get them very cheaply.  Could you repost that info?
 
I have tried these in the past witihout much success, but I'm hoping with a new place and really overloading the house with them it will help.  All the cats are healthy, and have had bloodwork, urinalysis etc  In fact I have another cat with a urinary infection right now and he doesn't do this.
 
Secondly,  I know it went around on the lists about PETA killing the animals in North Carolina.  I received a new email that stated that peta took the animals from shelters who still use gas chambers for euthanasia.  They stated that they could not find homes for all the animals from these rural shelters, but they thought it was better for them to be humanely euthanized rather than gas.  Being from Georgia, where some shelters still gas, I know this is true.  The letter also stated that peta had given some of these shelters thousands of dollars to improve their facilities as well.  So that's their side of the story.  
 
The truth may be somewhere in the middle.  But I know if I could get the animals from the gas chamber shelters here and euthanize them humanely I would.
 
tonya

Re: Urgent: need a home for two healthy cats

I'm in CA and now I have the two Chow/Husky fosters at my house, so I 
couldn't do it right now anyway. I hope someone comes through for these 
girls.

Nina

Hideyo Yamamoto wrote:

There isn’t much time, and I don’t know if anyone can help – but I am 
praying for a hope.


I have a situation where I need to find a home for two adult (I think 
they are 7 and 8 yrs old) healthy girl kitties –


To make a long story short, they are the victims of selfish and 
irresponsible human – they are on the way to the pound tomorrow, and I 
am trying to see if I can find an even temporary home for these two 
beautiful girls – I think I have someone who can foster them in a 
couple of weeks, but she can’t do so right away –


I live in NM – all of the rescue groups said that they won’t have a 
room -




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RE: Urgent: need a home for two healthy cats









There isn’t much time, and I don’t
know if anyone can help – but I am praying for a hope.

 

I have a situation where I need to find a
home for two adult (I think they are 7 and 8 yrs old) healthy girl kitties –


To make a long story short, they are the victims
of selfish and irresponsible human – they are on the way to the pound
tomorrow, and I am trying to see if I can find an even temporary home for these
two beautiful girls – I think I have someone who can foster them in a
couple of weeks, but she can’t do so right away – 

 

I live in NM – all of the rescue
groups said that they won’t have a room - 

 









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Behalf Of Belinda Sauro
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 9:21
AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Update on the little
blind kitten



 

    Here's a direct link to the album of these
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RE: Sebastian









Did you say that you have done the X-ray
already to see she has not spinal cord or disk problem or anything??

 









From:
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Hideyo Yamamoto
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 3:27
PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: Sebastian



 

Hi, Jennifer, B-12 is still going to be
helpful – it absorbs more appropriately in the body that other V-B (I
give it to Ginger every day, too) – so please feel free to do so. V-B is
safe, any extra they may take, it will get washed out from the body,
don’t worry at all about overdosing .

 

Is there any other symptoms? Does he eat
ok?  Has he lost weight?? I will ask my holistic vet to see if he has any
idea about the condition.

 









From:
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On Behalf Of JENNIFER RATLIFF
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 1:29
PM
To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Sebastian



 





Thanks so
much Nina and Hideyo for all of your help!!!

The vet was pleased with the results of Sebastian's
blood work.  I still can not figure out what is causing the weakness in
his hind legs.  He is falling all of the time now and he laid down in the
litter box today when he was trying to use the bathroom.  I have checked
on the b 12 methylycobalamin.  He is not diabetic.  Should I give it
to him anyway to see if it will help?  Is there a maximum dose because I
know that you can overdose on some vitamins?  Everyone just seems to think
that the weakness is just becasue of the leukemia, but I refuse to believe
that.  His blood work was good and I want to try every option to try and
help his legs.  Has anyone seen similar problems in their positive
kitties?  Sebastian was on a high dose of depo medrol for about a year and
a half.  This may be the cause of the weakness.  I just need
help.  I feel overwhelmed.

RE: Update on the little blind kitten

Thank you, Kat for the pictures - they are just so precious and I am so
happy to see them under your care, and it's making me cry - please keep
us posted as how they are doing !!  

PS I wish I could hold them both!!

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Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 9:14 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Update on the little blind kitten

Hi All,

Athena, the little blind kitty, and her sister Artemis went to the vet
yesterday.  My vet says Artemis weighs 12.5 oz and Athena weighs 11.5
oz.
Both got dewormed (strongid) and are too young (only 5 weeks old) to be
tested or vaccinated, so they'll go back in about 3-4 weeks.

My vet says Athena's right eye socket has no orb at all, anf the left
socket has a very small orb, but that she still probably can't even see
shadows.  But we'll be re-checking each time she goes to the vet.  It
doesn't affect her good nature - she loves to be held, cuddled, and
bottle
fed.  She was having some difficulty transitioning to drinking from a
bowl, so I set up a small water bottle in her cage, and both kittens
have
adapted quite well to it.  Artemis enjoys being cuddled too (what kitten
doesn't - even if it's only from the mom-cat).

I've created a photo album so you could see their pictures.  Go to
http://albums.bemikitties.com/
scroll down to the bottom of the page and click on the Pet Albums
category
and then click on "Athena and Artemis" for their pictures.
(Thank you Belinda for creating the Be-mi-kitties website!!)

They were named after 2 greek goddesses:
Artemis is the greek goddess of the hunt and protector of women.
Athena is the greek goddess of wisdom and justice (and justice is always
blind)

Kat (Mew Jersey)

RE: Sebastian









Hi, Jennifer, B-12 is still going to be
helpful – it absorbs more appropriately in the body that other V-B (I
give it to Ginger every day, too) – so please feel free to do so. V-B is
safe, any extra they may take, it will get washed out from the body, don’t
worry at all about overdosing .

 

Is there any other symptoms? Does he eat
ok?  Has he lost weight?? I will ask my holistic vet to see if he has any idea
about the condition.

 









From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of JENNIFER RATLIFF
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 1:29
PM
To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Sebastian



 





Thanks so
much Nina and Hideyo for all of your help!!!

The vet was pleased with the results of Sebastian's
blood work.  I still can not figure out what is causing the weakness in
his hind legs.  He is falling all of the time now and he laid down in the
litter box today when he was trying to use the bathroom.  I have checked
on the b 12 methylycobalamin.  He is not diabetic.  Should I give it
to him anyway to see if it will help?  Is there a maximum dose because I
know that you can overdose on some vitamins?  Everyone just seems to think
that the weakness is just becasue of the leukemia, but I refuse to believe
that.  His blood work was good and I want to try every option to try and
help his legs.  Has anyone seen similar problems in their positive
kitties?  Sebastian was on a high dose of depo medrol for about a year and
a half.  This may be the cause of the weakness.  I just need
help.  I feel overwhelmed.

Re: Sebastian

I meant to say Internists and Orthopedists! 
Nina


Nina wrote:


Jennifer,
Who are you taking Sebastian to?  They are ignorant about FeLV.  This 
is not a "symptom" of the disease.  You need to find a veterinary 
specialty clinic, (one that has board certified Internists and 
Cardiologists), to take Sebastian to, get his records sent over to 
them and start having someone take more of an interest in what is 
going on with him!  Your regular vet should be able to recommend a 
hospital, or call the emergency clinic in your area and ask for a 
reference.


The Vit B dose I was giving Gypsy was 1cc, but she's a small cat.  Get 
yourself a decent vet that will work on your behalf in finding a way 
to help your boy.  (Even your crummy vet should be able to tell you 
how much Vit B to give).  I don't know if that will help Sebastian, or 
not.  Vit B helps perk them up, I do know that, and it's given to 
kitties that are having a problem with absorbing nutrients from their 
food.  Did you ever find out about Sebastian's potassium levels?  It 
sounds like his legs are getting worse, if this is the first time 
you've seen him having trouble holding himself up to defecate.  Please 
get on this asap!

Nina

JENNIFER RATLIFF wrote:


Thanks so much Nina and Hideyo for all of your help!!!

The vet was pleased with the results of Sebastian's blood work.  I 
still can not figure out what is causing the weakness in his hind 
legs.  He is falling all of the time now and he laid down in the 
litter box today when he was trying to use the bathroom.  I have 
checked on the b 12 methylycobalamin.  He is not diabetic.  Should I 
give it to him anyway to see if it will help?  Is there a maximum 
dose because I know that you can overdose on some vitamins?  Everyone 
just seems to think that the weakness is just becasue of the 
leukemia, but I refuse to believe that.  His blood work was good and 
I want to try every option to try and help his legs.  Has anyone seen 
similar problems in their positive kitties?  Sebastian was on a high 
dose of depo medrol for about a year and a half.  This may be the 
cause of the weakness.  I just need help.  I feel overwhelmed.

Re: Sebastian


Jennifer,
Who are you taking Sebastian to?  They are ignorant about FeLV.  This is 
not a "symptom" of the disease.  You need to find a veterinary specialty 
clinic, (one that has board certified Internists and Cardiologists), to 
take Sebastian to, get his records sent over to them and start having 
someone take more of an interest in what is going on with him!  Your 
regular vet should be able to recommend a hospital, or call the 
emergency clinic in your area and ask for a reference.


The Vit B dose I was giving Gypsy was 1cc, but she's a small cat.  Get 
yourself a decent vet that will work on your behalf in finding a way to 
help your boy.  (Even your crummy vet should be able to tell you how 
much Vit B to give).  I don't know if that will help Sebastian, or not.  
Vit B helps perk them up, I do know that, and it's given to kitties that 
are having a problem with absorbing nutrients from their food.  Did you 
ever find out about Sebastian's potassium levels?  It sounds like his 
legs are getting worse, if this is the first time you've seen him having 
trouble holding himself up to defecate.  Please get on this asap!

Nina

JENNIFER RATLIFF wrote:


Thanks so much Nina and Hideyo for all of your help!!!

The vet was pleased with the results of Sebastian's blood work.  I 
still can not figure out what is causing the weakness in his hind 
legs.  He is falling all of the time now and he laid down in the 
litter box today when he was trying to use the bathroom.  I have 
checked on the b 12 methylycobalamin.  He is not diabetic.  Should I 
give it to him anyway to see if it will help?  Is there a maximum dose 
because I know that you can overdose on some vitamins?  Everyone just 
seems to think that the weakness is just becasue of the leukemia, but 
I refuse to believe that.  His blood work was good and I want to try 
every option to try and help his legs.  Has anyone seen similar 
problems in their positive kitties?  Sebastian was on a high dose of 
depo medrol for about a year and a half.  This may be the cause of the 
weakness.  I just need help.  I feel overwhelmed.

Re: Sebastian

2005-06-28 Thread Lernermichelle




There is NO way that his weakness is the direct result of his leukemia 
virus, because all the leukemia virus does is weaken the immune system to other 
diseases.  So if it is the result of a disease, it is some other disease-- 
which he may have gotten due to having a compromised immune system from the 
FeLV.  Or an injury. There are long-term effects of depo, including muscle 
wasting. When did the depo end? If it is from the depo I would have expected it 
to start while he was still on the depo, as that is when his muscles would have 
been wasting. Our dog who was on steroids long-term developed weakness in her 
hind end also, but she developed it while on the steroids.
Michelle

Sebastian

2005-06-28 Thread JENNIFER RATLIFF


Thanks so much Nina and Hideyo for all of your help!!!
The vet was pleased with the results of Sebastian's blood work.  I still can not figure out what is causing the weakness in his hind legs.  He is falling all of the time now and he laid down in the litter box today when he was trying to use the bathroom.  I have checked on the b 12 methylycobalamin.  He is not diabetic.  Should I give it to him anyway to see if it will help?  Is there a maximum dose because I know that you can overdose on some vitamins?  Everyone just seems to think that the weakness is just becasue of the leukemia, but I refuse to believe that.  His blood work was good and I want to try every option to try and help his legs.  Has anyone seen similar problems in their positive kitties?  Sebastian was on a high dose of depo medrol for about a year and a half.  This may be the cause of the weakness.  I just need help.  I feel overwhelmed.

Re: question bout kittens....


MC,
Okay, now I'm even more jealous.  Sooo...  Where are the pictures?!
Nina

TenHouseCats wrote:


doing it this way is PERFECT--all the kittens belong to rescue groups,
so i don't have to worry about placing them myself at all. i get all
the joys of kittens, without having to go insane til they grow up!

yeah, i have a lot of folks who come by to satisfy their kitten urgings.

they're so CUTE

Re: My Rescue Senior Siamese...not good :(





Yes, done that too.
 
In a message dated 6/28/2005 10:37:19 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Untreated Kidney failure is very hard on cats and they won't eat because they are nauseated, but once the subq's start making them feel better they get their appetites back, also pepcid would help with the nausea and tummy acid.  The subq's really need to be done daily if the kidney failure is bad, one here and there won't do it.  Once the cat is feeling better then you have to figure out how often to subq, some will need it daily for the rest of their lives.-- Belinda

 
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Re: question bout kittens....

2005-06-28 Thread TenHouseCats

doing it this way is PERFECT--all the kittens belong to rescue groups,
so i don't have to worry about placing them myself at all. i get all
the joys of kittens, without having to go insane til they grow up!

yeah, i have a lot of folks who come by to satisfy their kitten urgings.

they're so CUTE 

On 6/28/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  
> Whoo-Hooo! My dream job! If only I was disabled enough to not have to work
> (I have asthma but not bad enough to be considered "disabled"). My mom is in
> the same boat as you, except she's allergic to cats, so she spends all her
> time tending her garden and making crafts. Wish I lived closer to you, I'd
> love to come help socialize the kittens (that's the technical term for
> mooching some kitten kissies). I miss having kittens around, but then, on
> the same note, it's nice not to have to worry about placing any this year.
> So far, NO preggo queens have shown up at my door. I haven't even seen many
> ads for free kittens locally, come to think of it, maybe spay/neuter is
> starting to sink into these's hillbilly's hard heads! 
> 
> Jenn
> http://ucat.us
> http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html 
>   
> ~~~
> and tho no one asked specifically, i'll answer anyway: no, i do NOT
> have a life outside of the cats! hee hee... i'm on disability (ie, a
> member of the idle poor), am home all day, have no human family
> members to take care of. and live on the internet.
> 
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Re: My Rescue Senior Siamese...not good :(

  Untreated Kidney failure is very hard on cats and they won't eat 
because they are nauseated, but once the subq's start making them feel 
better they get their appetites back, also pepcid would help with the 
nausea and tummy acid.  The subq's really need to be done daily if the 
kidney failure is bad, one here and there won't do it.  Once the cat is 
feeling better then you have to figure out how often to subq, some will 
need it daily for the rest of their lives.


--
Belinda
Happiness is being owned by cats ...

Be-Mi-Kitties ...
http://www.bemikitties.com

Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens
http://adopt.bemikitties.com

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Re: My Rescue Senior Siamese...not good :(


  Hi Terrie,
 I second what Michelle has said, cats in very bad shape have come back 
and lived years with daily subq's


--
Belinda
Happiness is being owned by cats ...

Be-Mi-Kitties ...
http://www.bemikitties.com

Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens
http://adopt.bemikitties.com

FeLV Candle Light Service
http://www.bemikitties.com/cls

HostDesign4U.com  (affordable hosting & web design)
http://HostDesign4U.com

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Re: My Rescue Senior Siamese...not good :(

2005-06-28 Thread Kat

Oh Terrie,
I'm sorry it's Ling's time to leave, but so grateful to you for showing
him love, dignity and respect - Gentle hugs to both of you.
Kat (Mew Jersey)
---
Good morning all,
Remember the Senior Siamese that was willed to me?
Well, I'm going to be taking him to the Vet today to send him off to the
bridge. He is in the final
phase of kidney failure. I don't want him to suffer anymore so I have
decided to let him go. He has
stopped eating three days ago. I have force fed him and he is throwing it
all back up. He has also been
fed intravenously as well. He has loss so much weight as well.
He was about 15 yrs old when I got him. He was in poor health and all. He
was Hyper-T so that didn't
help matters. He had 7 claws imbedded into his pads (minor surgery) and
Ear Mites prior to me getting
him.
I'm going to do this without my husband around because he always makes it
harder. (he is a softy)
So wish "Ling" a safe journey to the bridge.


[IMAGE]
Terrie Mohr

Re: My Rescue Senior Siamese...not good :(

2005-06-28 Thread tamara stickler

Terri,
 
God bless all three of you. I'll be thinking of you.  Ling is lucky to have someone willing to take on the pain of making that final decision.  You're a strong lady.  And never fear, his prev. owner will be there in the room with you, he and the vet waiting to take him HOME.
 
Peace.
T
At 11:03 AM 6/28/2005, you wrote:>Good morning all,> Remember the Senior Siamese that was willed to me?>Well, I'm going to be taking him to the Vet today to send him off to the >bridge. He is in the final phase of kidney failure. I don't want him to >suffer anymore so I have decided to let him go. He has stopped eating >three days ago. I have force fed him and he is throwing it all back up. He >has also been fed intravenously as well. He has loss so much weight as well.>He was about 15 yrs old when I got him. He was in poor health and all. He >was Hyper-T so that didn't help matters. He had 7 claws imbedded into his >pads (minor surgery) and Ear Mites prior to me getting him.>I'm going to do this without my husband around because he always makes it >harder. (he is a softy)>So wish "Ling" a safe
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Re: My Rescue Senior Siamese...not good :(

May peace be with Ling on his journey. My thoughts are with you Terrie!

Jenn
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http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html 


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Re: My Rescue Senior Siamese...not good :(

Yes, I have done that. He also is Hyper-T was on meds for that.
I'm surprised that he has made it this far. He was in such poor shape when I got him that my Vets ask me if I was sure about this. I forgot to mention too, all his teeth were bad and if we would have put him in surgery to have then removed he wouldn't survived. His system is failing due to neglect prior to me getting him.
I wanted him to know that he was loved and cared for by us til the end regardless of how much time he had left.
In a message dated 6/28/2005 10:01:33 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Have you been doing subcutaneous fluids? Forgive me if you have been doing this already, but it makes the hugest difference with kidney failure. Cats can live for years, until quite old, with kidney failure on fluids. There is a really helpful yahoo group for CRF with cats who have lived for many years with the disease.
Michelle

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Re: My Rescue Senior Siamese...CRF website info

2005-06-28 Thread tamara stickler

Here are the addresses for two WONDERFUL support groups.  I used them when my cat was diagnosed with CRF (chronic renal failure).  Many of the cats on these sites have lived 5 and more years with the CRF and are still  doing well today.  
 
You will learn more than the vet can tell you...and often better info. than your vet can give you.
Good luck.
 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Have you been doing subcutaneous fluids? Forgive me if you have been doing this already, but it makes the hugest difference with kidney failure. Cats can live for years, until quite old, with kidney failure on fluids.  There is a really helpful yahoo group for CRF with cats who have lived for many years with the disease.
Michelle__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Re: My Rescue Senior Siamese...not good :(

2005-06-28 Thread Gloria B. Lane


Best wishes Terri, He's had a good life.  I'll be thinking of you - Gloria

At 11:03 AM 6/28/2005, you wrote:

Good morning all,
Remember the Senior Siamese that was willed to me?
Well, I'm going to be taking him to the Vet today to send him off to the 
bridge. He is in the final phase of kidney failure. I don't want him to 
suffer anymore so I have decided to let him go. He has stopped eating 
three days ago. I have force fed him and he is throwing it all back up. He 
has also been fed intravenously as well. He has loss so much weight as well.
He was about 15 yrs old when I got him. He was in poor health and all. He 
was Hyper-T so that didn't help matters. He had 7 claws imbedded into his 
pads (minor surgery) and Ear Mites prior to me getting him.
I'm going to do this without my husband around because he always makes it 
harder. (he is a softy)

So wish "Ling" a safe journey to the bridge.


[]

Terrie Mohr

Check site for available Siameses for adoption!

http://www.iGive.com/TAZZYS

https://www.paypal.com/
TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS

http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/

Click Here to Join WASHINGTON SIAMESE RESCUE Yahoo Group!
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescue

Click Here to Join K9 and Puddy Xpress Yahoo 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/K9andPuddyXpress/join


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http://www.petloss.com/
http://www.meezer.com/

http://thesiamesestore.com/

http://tx.siameserescue.org/adopt.html

http://ca.siameserescue.org/

Southern CA. Siamese Rescue

http://cs.siameserescue.org/

Northern CA. Siamese Rescue

http://cn.siameserescue.org/


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Re: Update on the little blind kitten

2005-06-28 Thread Mari Kolbe

The babies are absolutely beautiful.  While all cats and kittens are beautiful, there is something truly beautiful about our disabled and special needs furchildren - I look at her little face and the only thing I see is her beautiful soul shining through.  

 
We have four blind furchildren, so feel free to write me off list if you have questions or need info.  I know there is a yahoo group for deaf cat caregivers, but last time I checked there wasn't one devoted to blind cats. Most who have blind cats are members of the disabled cats or handicats2 groups.

 
-- /mari (SpiritCat)Until there are none, adopt one.SpiritCat and the Mooseheart Mumpkeesof southeastern Texas[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: My Rescue Senior Siamese...not good :(

2005-06-28 Thread Lernermichelle




Have you been doing subcutaneous fluids? Forgive me if you have been doing 
this already, but it makes the hugest difference with kidney failure. Cats can 
live for years, until quite old, with kidney failure on fluids.  There is a 
really helpful yahoo group for CRF with cats who have lived for many years with 
the disease.
Michelle

Re: OT, going off line (setting to NO MAIL - detailed instructions for everyone)




Here are the instructions for setting your 
account to "no mail" on this type of list. Everyone might want to save this, as 
it may come in handy someday! 
 
Go to this page:
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/Felvtalk_felineleukemia.org 
Scroll down to the bottom, and see where it has 
an area to enter your email address right below where it says "To unsubscribe 
from Felvtalk, get a password reminder, or change your subscription options 
enter your subscription email address"
Enter your email address there, and click the 
button beside it that says "unsubscribe or edit 
options".
 
That will take you to another page. The TOP place 
to enter anything on that page is for your password, enter your password there, 
and click the button under it that says "log in".

(NOTE that if you do not know, or have forgotten 
your password, the option to have it mailed to you is ALSO on this page, at the 
bottom!)
This takes you to a page that has lots of 
different things on it. There are headings in yellowish/tanish colored areas, 
look for these, find the 4th row down, the one that says "Your Felvtalk 
Subscription Options", below that one there are areas that are darker 
grey, the first one says this:
 
Mail delivery 
Set this option to Enabled to receive messages posted to this 
mailing list. Set it to Disabled if you want to stay subscribed, but 
don't want mail delivered to you for a while (e.g. you're going on vacation). If 
you disable mail delivery, don't forget to re-enable it when you come back; it 
will not be automatically re-enabled. 
There are little checkboxes beside that, click the 
one that says "disabled", anbd then scroll down to the bottom of the page and 
click the button that says "submit my changes". 
That should be all you have to do, anhd you wont 
get any more mail after the changes go through (give it a few hours to take 
effect). When you come back, go to the same pages, and do the same thing, 
except, instead of clicking the "disabled" box, click the "Enabled" box instead, 
and then you will begin to get the list emails again. Hope that 
helps!
 
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collect KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil, a 3 yr old special needs cat who 
must live on a liquid diet for the rest of his life.Bazil's caretaker 
collects labels and sends them to KMR, where they add up until she earns a free 
can of formula!PLEASE save your KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil!
 
If you use KMR, even just one can, please ask me for the mailing address 
you can send them to, to help feed Bazil!
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Re: blood test and at home vets

What about actually taking the vial(s) of blood to the vet?   Too late 
for this visit, but maybe in the future you could set it up to run the 
blood to the vet that gets the results back the same day.  I'm so 
nervous for you.  My prayers and good wishes are always with you, but 
I'll be especially focusing good energy toward the two of you tomorrow!

Nina

MacKenzie, Kerry N. wrote:


Thanks so much Nina, for thinking of us.

Believe me, I have no problem asking for a copy of lab tests. He**, 
I've paid for them. I've done this before--showed them to other vets. 
And, I don't feel I have to tell the first vet I'm doing that, esp 
when it's an emergency (as in fact it always has been). It's a 
business to them, and they got their $$!


I suppose if it were a vet I wanted to use long-term then I might say 
something, just to keep the wheels oiled.


As I don't yet have a housecall vet I'm happy with, plus the housecall 
vet took 48 hours to get the lab results back to me (the clinic I use 
gets them back the same day (provided the appointment is before 11am) 
I'll have to take her to the vet again.  Once Flavia's there, she's 
quite quiet, poor little sweetheart.


Wish us luck tomorrow--that the count is no less than 21! She will NOT 
take the antibiotics. So far she's made it very clear.


I'll ask about injectables tomorrow.

Thanks again Nina---Kerry & Flav.

RE: My Rescue Senior Siamese...not good :(

2005-06-28 Thread Cherie A Gabbert

Good luck to you both Terrie, you are in my thoughts and prayers.
Cherie"MacKenzie, Kerry N." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Wishing you a peaceful last day with Ling, Terrie. I'm glad he will have you with him. That's the most important thing--that he knows he is truly loved till the end, and beyond.
Big hugs to you both
Kerry

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Re: Update on the little blind kitten




Aww, aren't they adorable? But then, what kittens 
aren't? Athena will probably have to eventually have her eyes removed, from the 
looks of it. If you are interested, there are some really great support groups 
for owners of blind cats out there, I'd be happy to post a few links. 

 
So you must be into Greek mythology, or at least 
the Greek culture, right? I'm also a member of the Greek Animal Rescue, and if 
you ever want a REAL Greek animal, they always are bringing cats and dogs over 
from Greece to find them good USA or Canadian (or other 
countries) homes. I just got a email alert today about 4 Greek cats needing 
to be re-homed abroad. I sponsor a Greek cat that has Herpes Virus, he wasn't 
being treated before I began to sponsor him, and he would have gone blind 
eventually. Now he's being cared for. Greece has really horrible animal cruelty 
issues, possibly one of the worst countries in the world for animal welfare. 
Anyways, if you want a REAL Greek cat, here's the website:
http://www.garcanada.com
 
I'll forward you the email alert off list, it has 
pictures and wont go through the list because of the size.
Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html 

 
~~~Hi 
All,Athena, the little blind kitty, and her sister Artemis went to the 
vetyesterday.  My vet says Artemis weighs 12.5 oz and Athena weighs 
11.5 oz.Both got dewormed (strongid) and are too young (only 5 weeks old) to 
betested or vaccinated, so they'll go back in about 3-4 weeks.My vet 
says Athena's right eye socket has no orb at all, anf the leftsocket has a 
very small orb, but that she still probably can't even seeshadows.  But 
we'll be re-checking each time she goes to the vet.  Itdoesn't affect 
her good nature - she loves to be held, cuddled, and bottlefed.  She 
was having some difficulty transitioning to drinking from abowl, so I set up 
a small water bottle in her cage, and both kittens haveadapted quite well to 
it.  Artemis enjoys being cuddled too (what kittendoesn't - even if 
it's only from the mom-cat).I've created a photo album so you could see 
their pictures.  Go tohttp://albums.bemikitties.com/scroll 
down to the bottom of the page and click on the Pet Albums categoryand then 
click on "Athena and Artemis" for their pictures.(Thank you Belinda for 
creating the Be-mi-kitties website!!)They were named after 2 greek 
goddesses:Artemis is the greek goddess of the hunt and protector of 
women.Athena is the greek goddess of wisdom and justice (and justice is 
alwaysblind)Kat (Mew Jersey)
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RE: Update on the little blind kitten

2005-06-28 Thread Cherie A Gabbert

I am so happy for the three of you that is wonderful, you guys are lucky to have found one another ;-))
Cherie"MacKenzie, Kerry N." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Totally adorable. Lucky kits to have found you, Kat.-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED][mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of KatSent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 10:14 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Update on the little blind kittenHi All,Athena, the little blind kitty, and her sister Artemis went to the vetyesterday. My vet says Artemis weighs 12.5 oz and Athena weighs 11.5oz.Both got dewormed (strongid) and are too young (only 5 weeks old) to betested or vaccinated, so they'll go back in about 3-4 weeks.My vet says Athena's right eye socket has no orb at all, anf the leftsocket has a very small orb, but that she still probably can't even seeshadows. But we'll be re-checking each time she goes to the vet. Itdoesn't affect her good nature - she
loves to be held, cuddled, andbottlefed. She was having some difficulty transitioning to drinking from abowl, so I set up a small water bottle in her cage, and both kittenshaveadapted quite well to it. Artemis enjoys being cuddled too (what kittendoesn't - even if it's only from the mom-cat).I've created a photo album so you could see their pictures. Go tohttp://albums.bemikitties.com/scroll down to the bottom of the page and click on the Pet Albumscategoryand then click on "Athena and Artemis" for their pictures.(Thank you Belinda for creating the Be-mi-kitties website!!)They were named after 2 greek goddesses:Artemis is the greek goddess of the hunt and protector of women.Athena is the greek goddess of wisdom and justice (and justice is alwaysblind)Kat (Mew Jersey)

Re: My Rescue Senior Siamesee...not good :(

2005-06-28 Thread Joan Doljan

Terrie,
Thank you for taking such good loving care of Ling and taking on the hardest of all tasks.
Joan[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: My Rescue Senior Siamese...not good :(


Aww Terrie,
I'm sorry it's Ling's time, but so glad he found you.  Many blessings to 
you both.  It never gets easier, even when we know it's the right 
decision.  I'll be thinking about all of you.  Blessings to Ling on his 
journey to be with his human love that has passed.

Nina

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


*Good morning all,*
*Remember the Senior Siamese that was willed to me?*
*Well, I'm going to be taking him to the Vet today to send him off to 
the bridge. He is in the final phase of kidney failure. I don't want 
him to suffer anymore so I have decided to let him go. He has stopped 
eating three days ago. I have force fed him and he is throwing it all 
back up. He has also been fed intravenously as well. He has loss so 
much weight as well. *
*He was about 15 yrs old when I got him. He was in poor health and 
all. He was Hyper-T so that didn't help matters. He had 7 claws 
imbedded into his pads (minor surgery) and Ear Mites prior to me 
getting him.*
*I'm going to do this without my husband around because he always 
makes it harder. (he is a softy)*

*So wish "Ling" a safe journey to the bridge.*
 


*
Terrie Mohr

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RE: My Rescue Senior Siamese...not good :(

2005-06-28 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.

Title: Message

Wishing you a peaceful last day with Ling, Terrie. I'm
glad he will have you with him. That's the most important thing--that
he knows he is truly loved till the end, and beyond.
Big
hugs to you both
Kerry

-Original Message-From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Barb MoermondSent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 11:12
AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: My Rescue
Senior Siamese...not good :(
Wishing you and Ling peace and calm and a smooth passage to the Bridge for
Ling
<<<>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

Good morning
all,
Remember the
Senior Siamese that was willed to me?
Well, I'm going to be taking him
to the Vet today to send him off to the bridge. He is in the final phase of
kidney failure. I don't want him to suffer anymore so I have decided to let
him go. He has stopped eating three days ago. I have force fed him and he is
throwing it all back up. He has also been fed intravenously as well. He has
loss so much weight as well.
He was about 15 yrs old when I
got him. He was in poor health and all. He was Hyper-T so that didn't help
matters. He had 7 claws imbedded into his pads (minor surgery) and Ear Mites
prior to me getting him.
I'm going to do this without my
husband around because he always makes it harder. (he is a
softy)
So wish "Ling" a safe journey to
the bridge.
Terrie
MohrCheck site for available Siameses for
adoption!http://www.iGive.com/TAZZYShttps://www.paypal.com/TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTShttp://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/Click Here to Join WASHINGTON SIAMESE
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RESCUEOwner/DriverPetfinder.comAdopt a Homeless Pet!http://www.petfinder.com/http://www.orecatay.com/http://www.awca.net/index.htmhttp://www.felineleukemia.org/http://www.petloss.com/http://www.meezer.com/http://thesiamesestore.com/http://tx.siameserescue.org/adopt.htmlhttp://ca.siameserescue.org/Southern CA. Siamese Rescuehttp://cs.siameserescue.org/Northern CA. Siamese Rescuehttp://cn.siameserescue.org/http://co.siameserescue.org/http://va.siameserescue.org/Barb+Smoky
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making me smile." - Anonymous

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blood test and at home vets

2005-06-28 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.

Title: Message

Thanks so much Nina, for thinking of
us.
Believe me, I have no
problem asking for a copy of lab tests. He**, I've paid for them. I've done this before--showed them to other vets. And,
I don't feel I have to tell the first vet I'm doing that, esp when
it's an emergency (as in fact it always has been). It's a business to them, and
they got their $$!
I suppose if it were a vet I wanted to use long-term
then I might say something, just to keep the wheels
oiled.
As I don't yet have a housecall vet I'm happy
with, plus the housecall vet
took 48 hours to get the lab results back to me
(the clinic I use gets them back the same day (provided the appointment
is before 11am) I'll have to take
her to the vet again. Once
Flavia's there, she's quite quiet, poor little
sweetheart.
Wish us luck tomorrow--that the count is no less than
21! She will NOT take the antibiotics. So far she's made it very
clear.
I'll ask about injectables
tomorrow.
Thanks again Nina---Kerry &
Flav.
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Re: My Rescue Senior Siamese...not good :(

2005-06-28 Thread Barb Moermond

Wishing you and Ling peace and calm and a smooth passage to the Bridge for Ling
<<<>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

My Rescue Senior Siamese...not good :(

Kerry - blood tests and at home vets


Hi Kerry,
I pasted the following exchange from my IBD list and thought it might be 
an option for keeping Flavia out of the vet's office.  How is she doing?

Nina

<>

>>> Your other option would be to have the house call vet come and pull
the blood and then be honest with him.  Tell him that you will be
presenting the lab values to another vet for a second opinion.  Timmy
is the first and foremost concern...not the ego of the vet. 
Hopefully, he would not have a problem with this.  You can tell him

that you would value is input with regard to the blood values but
that you would also like a copy for your files and then you could
take this to your other vet for a consultation. >>>

RE: Update on the little blind kitten & question

2005-06-28 Thread EWagner7701

Hi all!  Those little babies are SO adorable!  Thank you, Kat, for the pictures!!  Just a question for you all... I checked the website for a vet that actually knows something about FeLV (unlike our current one), but the closest 2 are at colleges 2 hours away.  Fine for sometimes, but not all the time.  If anyone lives near Chicago (I live in Indiana, but am very close to Chicago) and has a good vet, could you e-mail and let me know?  Thank you so much!
Erika, Tom, Bernie and Tink

Re: Update on the little blind kitten



These babies are so lucky to have you, Kat!
 
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Re: question bout kittens....




Whoo-Hooo! My dream job! If only I was disabled 
enough to not have to work (I have asthma but not bad enough to be considered 
"disabled"). My mom is in the same boat as you, except she's allergic to cats, 
so she spends all her time tending her garden and making crafts. Wish I lived 
closer to you, I'd love to come help socialize the kittens (that's the technical 
term for mooching some kitten kissies). I miss having kittens around, but then, 
on the same note, it's nice not to have to worry about placing any this year. So 
far, NO preggo queens have shown up at my door. I haven't even seen many ads for 
free kittens locally, come to think of it, maybe spay/neuter is starting to sink 
into these's hillbilly's hard heads!
Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html 

 
~~~and 
tho no one asked specifically, i'll answer anyway: no, i do NOThave a life 
outside of the cats! hee hee... i'm on disability (ie, amember of the idle 
poor), am home all day, have no human familymembers to take care of. and 
live on the internet.
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RE: Off topic going off line

2005-06-28 Thread carlas

Like the old way? I have that one 

Carla

From:   "Doljan, Joan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org'" 

Date sent:  Tue, 28 Jun 2005 11:44:59 -0400
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> I did not go off line from the list.  I suspect you should email
> James. For other yahoo lists (for instance) you can go no mail.  Also,
> you can go on the tool bar and go to the out of office assistant.  
> 
> -Original Message-
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> 
> 
> 
> Hi
> 
> how do you go off line I am going away for two weeks?
> 
> Carla
>

Re: Update on the little blind kitten

2005-06-28 Thread Sheila208

In a message dated 6/28/2005 11:13:06 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


  http://albums.bemikitties.com/


They are precious. Thank you so much for taking them both. It will be such a comfort for Athena having her sister with her. You are a very special person and will be blessed for your kindness.

Sheila

RE: Off topic going off line

2005-06-28 Thread Doljan, Joan

I did not go off line from the list.  I suspect you should email James. For
other yahoo lists (for instance) you can go no mail.  Also, you can go on
the tool bar and go to the out of office assistant.  

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 11:37 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Off topic going off line

Hi

how do you go off line I am going away for two weeks?

Carla

RE: Update on the little blind kitten

2005-06-28 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.

Totally adorable. Lucky kits to have found you, Kat.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kat
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 10:14 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Update on the little blind kitten

Hi All,

Athena, the little blind kitty, and her sister Artemis went to the vet
yesterday.  My vet says Artemis weighs 12.5 oz and Athena weighs 11.5
oz.
Both got dewormed (strongid) and are too young (only 5 weeks old) to be
tested or vaccinated, so they'll go back in about 3-4 weeks.

My vet says Athena's right eye socket has no orb at all, anf the left
socket has a very small orb, but that she still probably can't even see
shadows.  But we'll be re-checking each time she goes to the vet.  It
doesn't affect her good nature - she loves to be held, cuddled, and
bottle
fed.  She was having some difficulty transitioning to drinking from a
bowl, so I set up a small water bottle in her cage, and both kittens
have
adapted quite well to it.  Artemis enjoys being cuddled too (what kitten
doesn't - even if it's only from the mom-cat).

I've created a photo album so you could see their pictures.  Go to
http://albums.bemikitties.com/
scroll down to the bottom of the page and click on the Pet Albums
category
and then click on "Athena and Artemis" for their pictures.
(Thank you Belinda for creating the Be-mi-kitties website!!)

They were named after 2 greek goddesses:
Artemis is the greek goddess of the hunt and protector of women.
Athena is the greek goddess of wisdom and justice (and justice is always
blind)

Kat (Mew Jersey)

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Off topic going off line

2005-06-28 Thread carlas


Hi

how do you go off line I am going away for two weeks?

Carla

Re: Update on the little blind kitten


Kat,
Thank you so much for keeping us up to date about your little angels 
Athena and Artemis.  Thanks for the pictures, (just proves the fact that 
a kittens first job is to be adorable!).  Bless you, bless you, bless you!

Nina

Kat wrote:


Hi All,

Athena, the little blind kitty, and her sister Artemis went to the vet
yesterday.  My vet says Artemis weighs 12.5 oz and Athena weighs 11.5 oz.
Both got dewormed (strongid) and are too young (only 5 weeks old) to be
tested or vaccinated, so they'll go back in about 3-4 weeks.

My vet says Athena's right eye socket has no orb at all, anf the left
socket has a very small orb, but that she still probably can't even see
shadows.  But we'll be re-checking each time she goes to the vet.  It
doesn't affect her good nature - she loves to be held, cuddled, and bottle
fed.  She was having some difficulty transitioning to drinking from a
bowl, so I set up a small water bottle in her cage, and both kittens have
adapted quite well to it.  Artemis enjoys being cuddled too (what kitten
doesn't - even if it's only from the mom-cat).

I've created a photo album so you could see their pictures.  Go to
http://albums.bemikitties.com/
scroll down to the bottom of the page and click on the Pet Albums category
and then click on "Athena and Artemis" for their pictures.
(Thank you Belinda for creating the Be-mi-kitties website!!)

They were named after 2 greek goddesses:
Artemis is the greek goddess of the hunt and protector of women.
Athena is the greek goddess of wisdom and justice (and justice is always
blind)

Kat (Mew Jersey)

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Update on the little blind kitten

2005-06-28 Thread Kat

Hi All,

Athena, the little blind kitty, and her sister Artemis went to the vet
yesterday.  My vet says Artemis weighs 12.5 oz and Athena weighs 11.5 oz.
Both got dewormed (strongid) and are too young (only 5 weeks old) to be
tested or vaccinated, so they'll go back in about 3-4 weeks.

My vet says Athena's right eye socket has no orb at all, anf the left
socket has a very small orb, but that she still probably can't even see
shadows.  But we'll be re-checking each time she goes to the vet.  It
doesn't affect her good nature - she loves to be held, cuddled, and bottle
fed.  She was having some difficulty transitioning to drinking from a
bowl, so I set up a small water bottle in her cage, and both kittens have
adapted quite well to it.  Artemis enjoys being cuddled too (what kitten
doesn't - even if it's only from the mom-cat).

I've created a photo album so you could see their pictures.  Go to
http://albums.bemikitties.com/
scroll down to the bottom of the page and click on the Pet Albums category
and then click on "Athena and Artemis" for their pictures.
(Thank you Belinda for creating the Be-mi-kitties website!!)

They were named after 2 greek goddesses:
Artemis is the greek goddess of the hunt and protector of women.
Athena is the greek goddess of wisdom and justice (and justice is always
blind)

Kat (Mew Jersey)

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