date:20061010




Nina,
 
I so understand how you feel.  I wanted to do the right thing for 
Peanut in her final days & it is so hard to really know what to do.  We 
can only do the best we can with what we know & I think then, our babies 
will know that we made our decisions out of love for them.  More prayers 
are on the way for you & Spencer.
 
Yvonne

Re: dental work

2006-10-10 Thread Gina WN

Buddy had quite a few dental treatments and extractions over the years.  He did just fine, in fact he seemed to feel better after the extractions.  He ate without a problem, even without all his teeth.  Food was always a big priority for him. :)     Gina 
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Re: My precious Tsubomi has now become free --





Hideyo,
 
I am so sorry for your loss of Tsubomi, but glad that you were able to be 
there with her in her final days.  I'm sure that she felt very loved & 
comforted in your arms.  I can relate to your feelings about how quickly 
these things can happen.  Take extra good care of yourself & know that 
your special little Angel will watch over you always.
 
Yvonne
 
In a message dated 10/10/2006 11:25:54 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Hi, I just wanted to let you know 
  that my baby Tsubomi has decided to leave the body which no longer allowed her 
  to do things she wanted to do and now transited to a place where she had a 
  infinity of freedom – I was holding her all day and all night and she crossed 
  in my arms – felk is such a scary disease – everything happened so quickly, 
  before last Friday, she was acting just fine – but I wish I had paid a little 
  more attention to her little signs though ---
   
  Again, thank you all for all the 
  prayers and encouragement – I and Tsubomi will be forever connected with our 
  souls.. I will just miss holding her and seeing her body so terribly.. it just 
  hasn’t hit me.. I am sort of in shock.. but I know it’s going to be painful 
  when it does..

Re: dental work





In a message dated 10/10/2006 9:00:28 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
i dont 
  think cracker is the kinda bling bling cat!!  

LOL...Good visuals from that one :)  Sammy gets her teeth cleaned 1-2 
times a year & she always seems to feel fine afterwards, like nothing 
happened.  Now, I ask them to use just the gas on her, since she is 
17.  They just clean off the plaque & once or twice, she's needed an 
extraction.  She always gets antirobe before & after.
 
Yvonne

Re: Sharing price information





I'm in a Milwaukee, WI suburb & one of the vets we go to charges 
115 for a senior wellness profile, 24 for the exam, 14 for a fecal, 50 for 
an X-ray, 32 for a snap test, 10 for ear cleaning, 14 for distemper vac.  
The cat-only clinic we go to is comparable in its rates, higher on some items, 
lower on others.  I don't know what they currently charge for spay/neuter, 
b/c it's been 5 years since I've had to have that done.  If I remember 
correctly, dentals at the cat only clinic are usually b/t 100-200, depending on 
if extractions were needed, etc.
 
Yvonne
 
In a message dated 10/9/2006 11:06:33 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Is there 
  a way we can give a geographical location and some basic ideas of what we pay 
  for specific procedures,for example here several of the vets charge 165 
  for a senior panel,,,the SNAP combo test ranges for 39 to 60,,,A CBC is about 
  50,,Spay can go from 50 to 200Dentals from 100 to 400. I would like to 
  compile something that could benefit others so they can see common prices and 
  ranges in different areas and perhaps find a more cost efficient local 
  vet..I am in the Central Valley ( Fresno) of California. It is an ag based 
  community,Kelly

RE: Tsunade has leukemia and I have questions

2006-10-10 Thread Diane Rosenfeldt

Hi, Chelsea --

Sorry Tsunade tested positive.  FeLV is transmittable to other felines, but
is not as contagious as once thought.  I'm fairly new on this list myself,
but many here have mixed their negative and positive cats for years with no
transmission of the disease.  You won't pass this on to the other animals
you wish to handle.  Basically, Tsunade would have to bite each and every
one, and as far as I know, FeLV is limited to cats -- and I'm not even sure
about the exotics.  As a precaution, you would avoid feeding them out of her
food dishes and not let them hang out in her litter box, but then those
things aren't likely to happen in any case.  Your boyfriend's cat should be
okay as long as it is vaccinated for FeLV.  Feed Tsunade good quality
food -- others on the list will tell you which ones -- try to keep her
stress levels down and be really vigilant about sniffles, sneezes, any sign
of illness, and get her to a vet for it.  FeLV cats are really susceptible
to upper respiratory disease and eye things.  Oh, and don't let a vet
suggest you put her to sleep just because she's FeLV.  She probably won't
live as long as if she were well, but she can live many, many years.  Good
luck!

I envy your work (and future work) with all those exciting animals!

Diane R.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Chelsea Bennett
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 10:08 PM
To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Tsunade has leukemia and I have questions

RE: My precious Tsubomi has now become free --




I am so sorry for your loss Hideyo. Tsubomi loved you and you did EVERY 
thing you could. So terribly sad she is gone in soul but how beautiful she went 
while you held her. That baby had so much love. Now she is pain free and will be 
your angel and watch over you, her Mommy. I hope your heart heals fast. Bless 
you both.
kayte and Crackers

Tsunade has leukemia and I have questions

2006-10-10 Thread Chelsea Bennett


Hi, My name is Chelsea.  In late July a kitten (seemed to be) wandered
into my yard.  After thinking she may go home, putting up posts of found
cat, and checking newspapers for lost cat notices, I found she had been
seen at the nearby church and figured she was dumped there.  After trying
to find a home fer her, I soon fell in love with this sweet kitty and was
wanting a cat since my oldest cat Oliver had passed in Feb due to kidney
problems (he was about 15).  So today Tsunade went to the vet to get her
shots, tests, and get fixed.  I was correct she was a girl and in heat,
she had no microchip, was about 8 months - 1.5 years old, and the test
was a strong possitive for felkine leukemia.  I decided to keep her as
long as I can.  I plan to move in with my boyfriend next year, and he has
a cat of 15 years with kidney problems.  Both these cats would be inside
only cats.  If his cat gets vaccinated against leukemia, he will probably
be safe from the dieases, correct???   also Tsunade had diahrrea as of
last night (not seen previoulsy) and she has always vomitted more than
normal.  The vomit is usually spit, hairs, maybe some grass (she is
inside cat as of now-but will go outside on leash walks)  but sometimes
it is a bunch of undigested food chunks.  So I plan to get lacatone
furball medicine and digest a meal ASAP, but are there other medicines
she should be on???  Does anyone know a good cheap source for buying this
digest a meal by infinity?  Tsunade's gums look very pale pink to me, is
there a link to pics of gums of anemic cats?  I won't get anymore cats
(besides possibly boyfriends kitty) as long as she is around.  But I plan
to work with animals as a career so I am wondering if feline leukemia is
transmissible to other mammals???  Tsunade is the only mammal have right
now but that could change as I plan to do rescue/rehab work, breeding
animals, and/or other animal work.  Would it be potentially harmful to
other carnivours (the order- not just food lifestyle) such as genets,
civets, skunks, etc? How about other felines such as servels, ocelots,
lions, and tigers??  My dream career is to someday have my own animal
show and documentaries (such as the late and great Steve Irwin did)?  I
have rescued and relocated snakes and cats many times in the past, a few
weeks ago I helped babysit 2 lion cubs for a zoo fundraiser (they did not
have contact with Tsunade or her body fluids), and I studied and worked
with exotics and not-so-exotic's all my life.  I currently have a small
amount of pets, beta fish aquata and mist, trunks the uromastyx lizard,
treeko the golden gecko, and some colonies of fiddler crabs, hermit
crabs, and crayfish.

thanks, from a dissapointed yet optimistic for 5 + years
 
Chelsea and Tsunade
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Kayte's saying




"Be 
kinder than 
necessary, 
for everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle.." 
 
 
this was on the wall of the NICU when my son AJ was 
premature born..he spent the 1st month in NICU...he was 8 weeks early...I 
think it fits everyone on this archive too...
Kayte

Re: OT-Anyone know of a pet psychic in Indianapolis?

2006-10-10 Thread berniluv

Hi all, long time no see, I know. I promised my
daughter I would try to find a pet psychic in
the Indianapolis, Indiana area. She has two cats
and a dog; the one cat likes the dog (sort of)
and the other cat HATES the dog AND the other
cat. The hating cat is Siamese, of course, and
she was there long before the other two, so my
daughter doesn't feel like she can get rid of
her (and I wouldn't want her to.) But whenever
she's in the same rom as the other cat, she
sprays all over. And yes, both cats are fixed.
Any ideas? I thought a pet psychic could at
least tell us what's going on. I don't want ant
of the animals to depart. Help!! Luv, Nancy and
her MC




Heaven, to me, will never a Heaven be
Unless my pets are there with me!

Don't take your organs to Heaven~~~
Heaven knows we need them here!

Spencer

2006-10-10 Thread Evan

Nina - just wanted to let you know that both you and Spencer are in our 
hearts and prayers. It's never easy to find that difficult balance 
between feeling like you've done all you can for your loved one and 
wondering if you're efforts are more for us than them. Spencer has 
entrusted himself to you- you can trust he'll let you know when it's 
time for goodbye - the eyes will reveal the spirit. Wrap yourself and 
Spencer in the comfort of knowing you  have loved - and loved well. ~ Evan


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Re: Another vet visit for Spencer?

  The pepcid did help Fred thankfully, he was not eating good and after 
starting it his appetite is better, he has gained back the weight he 
lost.  Now his phosphorus is high so tonight I started him on binders, 
that should also help his tummy feel better, and tomorrow I should get 
the cafarate I ordered and hopefully take care of any tummy ulcers he 
may have.  Now if I can just get him to not be such a grouch about 
getting his fluids ...:(


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Re: Spencer and the difficulty of final decisions

Nina, You love Spencer and you WILL do the right thing for him. What you feel in your heart will be the best thing you can do for Spencer, and he will know that too. Have faith in yourself. You are not going to put him through too much, and you're not going to let him go too soon. Things will work out the way they are supposed to. take care, tNina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Belinda,Thank you so much for your suggestions. You're right, I don't know what's going on with him exactly. Who knows, it could be Pancreatitis. I'm in that terrible position of wondering, 'if only'. I was stewing in that feeling all day yesterday. It's making me wonder if my resistance to all the suggested testing was misguided. I'm at that terrible point were
I know we're just about out of time, where there's still life, and therefore still hope, but hope is dwindling rapidly. As I told you, I had the housecall vet on the phone this morning. He even had a cancellation and could have come this afternoon. I hung up without making an appointment. Something is holding me back from making that final decision. I tend to think, when I feel this way, that perhaps there's a miracle just waiting, if only I could figure out what to do to nudge it along. Before I began this post, I was thinking maybe I could call the housecall vet back and have him come draw blood for more tests. Unfortunately, Spencer's so emaciated at this point, I doubt his veins would support a blood draw. I have a call into my AC... I'm wondering if perhaps my hesitation to relieve Spencer of his practically useless body has more to do with allowing death to take it's natural course. Maybe the light in his eyes has
more to do with him being glad for the opportunity to pass on his own then what I was hopefully interpreting yesterday as an indication of possible recovery. I know everyone on the list knows, (and of course Hideyo has just gone through it with her little Tsubomi), just how hard it is to watch and wait and comfort and cry through that process. I've always believed that euthanasia is a gift of love, that if it is done for the animal and not for our own convenience, or even to ease our own suffering, then it is the right thing to do. In Spencer's case, I'm not getting any of the signals that normally tell me this is what he wants... So, I continue to wait and watch and support and try to be brave through my tears.NinaBelinda wrote:> Steriods will help any kind of inflammation not just inflammation from > cancer. They also help many other conditions.>

Re: Tsunade has f leukemia

Chelsea, You are doing the right thing. When I first found out we had a positive amongst us I had an elderly cat with kidney disease and ibd. He never caught anything from either positive cat and died of kidney failure, still negative. Good luck. My positive is up to 6 years old at least. She was dumped at my vet's door. Her name is DD for "door dump". That's what the vets call it when someone leaves a cat with them. She was at least a year old and a strong positive when I got her in 2000. Her only problem so far has been overgrooming. (Knock on wood.) tonyaChelsea Bennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, My name is Chelsea. In late July a kitten (seemed to be) wanderedinto my yard. After thinking she may go home,
putting up posts of foundcat, and checking newspapers for lost cat notices, I found she had beenseen at the nearby church and figured she was dumped there. After tryingto find a home fer her, I soon fell in love with this sweet kitty and waswanting a cat since my oldest cat Oliver had passed in Feb due to kidneyproblems (he was about 15). So today Tsunade went to the vet to get hershots, tests, and get fixed. I was correct she was a girl and in heat,she had no microchip, was about 8 months - 1.5 years old, and the testwas a strong possitive for felkine leukemia. I decided to keep her aslong as I can. I plan to move in with my boyfriend next year, and he hasa cat of 15 years with kidney problems. Both these cats would be insideonly cats. If his cat gets vaccinated against leukemia, he will probablybe safe from the dieases, correct??? also Tsunade had diahrrea as oflast night (not seen previoulsy) and she has always
vomitted more thannormal. The vomit is usually spit, hairs, maybe some grass (she isinside cat as of now-but will go outside on leash walks) but sometimesit is a bunch of undigested food chunks. So I plan to get lacatonefurball medicine and digest a meal ASAP, but are there other medicinesshe should be on??? thanks, from a dissapointed yet optimistic for 5 + yearsChelsea and Tsunade[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Another vet visit for Spencer?

Pepcid has never helped my cats in these situations either.  Watch for side effects or worsened appetite with the pepcid.     Think of it like this.. I feel sick at my stomach.  I drink pepto bismol to help, but instead  I throw up. ugh.  tBelinda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Too much pepcid also causes stomach upset and can be hard on the kidney's (learned this from the CRF group I'm on). Fred who does have stomach upset and was vomiting foamy stuff, gets a 1/4 tablet a day and most CRF kitties start out on 1/4 EOD, the least amount you need to use to solve the problem the better.-- Belindahappiness is being owned by cats ...Be-Mi-Kittieshttp://bemikitties.comPost Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP
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Re: OT: "Sneaky" ways to feed ferals

Put a bunch of big pots together and hide a water dish behind them?Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Hi guys,     I am not allowed (by my HOA) to have bowls, etc., on my porch.  All pet food dishes must be kept inside.  I am allowed to have plants outside.  I have been just pouring the food out directly on my porch, which isn't the best method, but it works.  I'm trying to figure out how to give them water.  Maybe a bowl inside some sort of plant pot?  Anyone got an idea?    I want to fix them up a little nest for winter too..actually one is semi-social and will allow me to pet him, etc if I sit out on the porch for a while.  If I can get him to where he will allow me to take him to the vet I will bring him in..he seems to want
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Re: My precious Tsubomi has now become free --

Hideyo,       I'm so sorry for your loss.  Everyone always says 'you did everything you could'.  And you certainly did.  I'm sorry.  I know you'll miss Tsubomi.  What does "Tsubomi" mean?     tdede hicken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  May you find peace Hideyo. I know how you feel. Justknow you will both see each other again. To have acat love you as much as you do them is a most preciousgift.Go with God,Dede--- Hideyo Yamamoto<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:> Hi, I just wanted to let you know that my baby> Tsubomi has decided to> leave the body which no longer allowed her to do> things she wanted to do> and now transited to a place where she had a> infinity of
 freedom - I was> holding her all day and all night and she crossed in> my arms - felk is> such a scary disease - everything happened so> quickly, before last> Friday, she was acting just fine - but I wish I had> paid a little more> attention to her little signs though ---> > > > Again, thank you all for all the prayers and> encouragement - I and> Tsubomi will be forever connected with our souls.. I> will just miss> holding her and seeing her body so terribly.. it> just hasn't hit me.. I> am sort of in shock.. but I know it's going to be> painful when it does..> > > > > > Hideyo > > "When you are in the service of your fellow beings, you are only in the service of your God"Mosiah 2:17__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam?
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Re: George Please add to the CLS :(

Hugs to you Sherry, and all of the cats you love and take care of.     tSherry DeHaan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Sadly Jen had to let our sweet George go yesterday.She sent us a long e-mail telling us how she appreciates all that we do for these beautiful fur kids,and how we love them when no one else would.It was a very sad but sweet e-mail.I know she has a hard time deciding when to let them go. Thank you all for your prayers.Please keep Katarina in your prayers for she has a cancer eating away at her nose and Jen says it will be time to let her go too.The beautiful 11 year old survived hurricane Katrina and now this.I kiss her and tell her how much I love her every time I see her.  Sherry  Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Yahoo! Small Business.

RE: My precious Tsubomi has now become free --

2006-10-10 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto

You are probably talking about Ayumi (meaning a walking beauty) - and
Tsubomi (a small blossom), I found her in my front porch about a year
ago.. she and Ginger have been living together as they are both felk
positive --now I am afraid that Ginger will miss Tsubomi, too --- 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 10:31 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: My precious Tsubomi has now become free --

Hi Hideyo,

I am so sorry about little Tsubomi.  How long did you
have Tsubomi?  I couldn't remember if she had
originally come with you to the U.S. or if that was
another kitty.  I hope Tsubomi's sweet memories
comfort you while you grieve for her.  Prayers going
out for your comfort and peace.  I am glad she is pain
free now.

:)
Wendy

--- Hideyo Yamamoto
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi, I just wanted to let you know that my baby
> Tsubomi has decided to
> leave the body which no longer allowed her to do
> things she wanted to do
> and now transited to a place where she had a
> infinity of freedom - I was
> holding her all day and all night and she crossed in
> my arms - felk is
> such a scary disease - everything happened so
> quickly, before last
> Friday, she was acting just fine - but I wish I had
> paid a little more
> attention to her little signs though ---
> 
>  
> 
> Again, thank you all for all the prayers and
> encouragement - I and
> Tsubomi will be forever connected with our souls.. I
> will just miss
> holding her and seeing her body so terribly.. it
> just hasn't hit me.. I
> am sort of in shock.. but I know it's going to be
> painful when it does..
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Hideyo 
> 
> 

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Re: My precious Tsubomi has now become free --

2006-10-10 Thread Sherry DeHaan

I am so sorry Hideyo,Tsubomi left with your loving touch. Hugs to you.  SherryHideyo Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Hi, I just wanted to let you know that my baby Tsubomi has decided to leave the body which no longer allowed her to do things she wanted to do and now transited to a place where she had a infinity of freedom  I was holding her all day and all night and she crossed in my arms  felk is such a scary disease  everything happened so quickly, before last Friday, she was acting just fine  but I wish I had paid a little more attention to her little signs though ---     Again, thank you all for all the prayers and encouragement  I and Tsubomi will be forever connected with our souls.. I will just miss holding her and seeing her body so terribly.. it just hasnt hit me.. I am sort of in shock.. but I know its going to be painful when it does..        Hideyo  
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Re: OT:TEXAS - Carrollton AS - "ITSY" - gorgeous male Choc. Point

2006-10-10 Thread FORGETMENOTPETS




I thought someone was pulling him for me I cant seem to arrange it
I just cant get off work to go get him or I would.
hell its just 10 to adopt him he is already 
neutered

Re: OT:TEXAS - Carrollton AS - "ITSY" - gorgeous male Choc. Point

2006-10-10 Thread Susan Loesch

Kelley - I'm not sure.  I didn't see anything about someone getting -- I hope they are.  He is to special to go down.Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:I could have forwarded this to SR.  I thought someone else was getting him.     I don't know if SR pulls from that shelter or not.   On 10/10/06, Susan Loesch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:   I sent this to the Siamese Rescue person in Memphis that we've been working with here in Little Rock.  She is contacting the TX Siamese Rescue group to get.  (I'd also forwarded this to someone in the TX
 SR group -- don't know if that is the same contact she made or not.    [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: CARROLLTON, TX ANIMAL SERVICES  Can someone help this kitty?  
    PTS SCHEDULED FOR EARLY AM WEDNESDAY 10/11.    Please call the shelter at 972-466-3420 x3 to
 tag, if possible, by Tuesday 10/10 6pm .    Note that you can email right up until prior to 7am Wednesday 10/11  EMAIL : [EMAIL PROTECTED]  (@cityofcarrolton.com)   PLEASE consider tagging or pulling any available kitty as soon as available to rescue .  Remember that Halloween is approaching and there are people that may come to the shelter looking for a black cat and/or white cat although all colors may be most at risk. This is the time of year kitties need RESCUE orgs to help them please especially consider the entire group below
 upon availability and PULL ASAP. THANKS!!!   ITSY, M, CHOCOLATE POINT SIAMESE (FULL), ID 14159 This is the most beautiful big 20 lb kitty found out and about (we think his name is really cute - probably for ITSY-BITSY.) He has a great personality and is friends with everyone. AVAILABLE TO RESCUE NOW. ALREADY NEUTERED! If not adopted or rescued this week, will be on next week's PTS list.     AVAILABILITY: ALL ON CURRENT PTS LIST NEED TO BE TAGGED OR PULLED PRIOR TO COB 6PM, Tuesday, 10/10.  EMAILS ACCEPTED RIGHT UP UNTIL 7AM WEDNESDAY, 10/11 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] (@ cityofcarrollton.com)
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Re: Spencer and the difficulty of final decisions

2006-10-10 Thread TenHouseCats


as we all here know, this is the very hardest place we as catparents
ever find ourselves.

for me, it's remembering that sometimes i'm the position to give them
that final gift, of peace, in gratitude for all the love they've
offered me. learning to separate out my own needs from theirs is the
hard part...

i do want to say, tho, that one of the most profound things anyone
ever told me was that, "it is better to send them home one day too
early, than 5 minutes too late." protecting them from suffering is,
for me, the biggest thing...

MC

On 10/10/06, Marylyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

After walking the walk with the Royal Princess Kitty Kattgive them
the opportunity to leave on their own.  Don't rush them on their journey.
You would not want to be rushed on yours.  If you know in your heart that
you would want to be helped along if your were in their paws consider it.
Or if they flat tell you it is time and they need or want help.

The awful thing is you have to be so much stronger to do this.  With Kitty I
have no doubt that I did right letting her leave on her own.

Blessings to you.






If you have men who will
exclude any of God's creatures
from the shelter of
compassion and pity, you will have men who
will deal likewise with
their fellow man.
 St.
Francis
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From: "Nina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: ; "Carol Robinson"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 2:52 PM
Subject: Spencer and the difficulty of final decisions


> Belinda,
> Thank you so much for your suggestions.  You're right, I don't know what's
> going on with him exactly.  Who knows, it could be Pancreatitis.  I'm in
> that terrible position of wondering, 'if only'.  I was stewing in that
> feeling all day yesterday.  It's making me wonder if my resistance to all
> the suggested testing was misguided.  I'm at that terrible point were I
> know we're just about out of time, where there's still life, and therefore
> still hope, but hope is dwindling rapidly.  As I told you, I had the
> housecall vet on the phone this morning.  He even had a cancellation and
> could have come this afternoon.  I hung up without making an appointment.
> Something is holding me back from making that final decision.  I tend to
> think, when I feel this way, that perhaps there's a miracle just waiting,
> if only I could figure out what to do to nudge it along.  Before I began
> this post, I was thinking maybe I could call the housecall vet back and
> have him come draw blood for more tests.  Unfortunately, Spencer's so
> emaciated at this point, I doubt his veins would support a blood draw.  I
> have a call into my AC...  I'm wondering if perhaps my hesitation to
> relieve Spencer of his practically useless body has more to do with
> allowing death to take it's natural course.  Maybe the light in his eyes
> has more to do with him being glad for the opportunity to pass on his own
> then what I was hopefully interpreting yesterday as an indication of
> possible recovery.  I know everyone on the list knows, (and of course
> Hideyo has just gone through it with her little Tsubomi), just how hard it
> is to watch and wait and comfort and cry through that process.  I've
> always believed that euthanasia is a gift of love, that if it is done for
> the animal and not for our own convenience, or even to ease our own
> suffering, then it is the right thing to do.  In Spencer's case, I'm not
> getting any of the signals that normally tell me this is what he wants...
> So, I continue to wait and watch and support and try to be brave through
> my tears.
> Nina
>
>
> Belinda wrote:
>
>> Steriods will help any kind of inflammation not just inflammation from
>> cancer.  They also help many other conditions.
>>
>
>






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Re: OT:TEXAS - Carrollton AS - "ITSY" - gorgeous male Choc. Point

2006-10-10 Thread Kelley Saveika

I could have forwarded this to SR.  I thought someone else was getting him.
 
I don't know if SR pulls from that shelter or not. 
On 10/10/06, Susan Loesch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I sent this to the Siamese Rescue person in Memphis that we've been working with here in Little Rock.  She is contacting the TX Siamese Rescue group to get.  (I'd also forwarded this to someone in the TX SR group -- don't know if that is the same contact she made or not.  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 




CARROLLTON, TX ANIMAL SERVICES
Can someone help this kitty?


 

PTS SCHEDULED FOR EARLY AM WEDNESDAY 10/11.  

Please call the shelter at 972-466-3420 x3 to tag, if possible, by Tuesday 10/10 6pm
.    Note that you can email right up until prior to 7am Wednesday 10/11  EMAIL
:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (@cityofcarrolton.com) 

PLEASE consider tagging or pulling any available kitty as soon as available to rescue
.  Remember that Halloween is approaching and there are people that may come to the shelter looking for a black cat and/or white cat although all colors may be most at risk. This is the time of year kitties need RESCUE orgs to help them please especially consider the entire group below upon availability and PULL ASAP. THANKS!!!


ITSY, M, CHOCOLATE POINT SIAMESE (FULL), ID 14159 This is the most beautiful big 20 lb kitty found out and about (we think his name is really cute - probably for ITSY-BITSY.) He has a great personality and is friends with everyone. AVAILABLE TO RESCUE NOW. ALREADY NEUTERED! If not adopted or rescued this week, will be on next week's PTS list.





 
AVAILABILITY: ALL ON CURRENT PTS LIST NEED TO BE TAGGED OR PULLED PRIOR TO COB 6PM, Tuesday, 10/10.  EMAILS ACCEPTED RIGHT UP UNTIL 7AM WEDNESDAY, 10/11 - 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (@
cityofcarrollton.com)


CONTACT: Carrollton Animal Services at 972-466-3420 x3. ADDRESS: 2727 Nimitz Ln, Carrollton, TX 75007 HOURS: SHELTER IS OPEN M-W-F (10am-5pm) and T-TH (10am-6pm) and Saturday (1:30pm-5pm). 
GENERAL PUBLIC ADOPTION FEES (does not apply to rescue org with 501c3): ONLY $10 ADOPTION FEE FOR EVERY KITTEN, CAT, PUPPY, OR DOG BUT REQUIRED TO PURCHASE A $50 SPAY/NEUTER VOUCHER FOR EVERY ANIMAL NOT ALREADY NEUTERED/SPAYED. $5 for CITY REGISTRATION ONLY IF YOU LIVE IN THE CITY OF CARROLLTON. 
RESCUE GROUP REQUIREMENTS: Appropriate 501c3 documentation on file, tag letter, please call shelter for info. 
 

 

 
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Re: OT:TEXAS - Carrollton AS - "ITSY" - gorgeous male Choc. Point

2006-10-10 Thread Susan Loesch

I sent this to the Siamese Rescue person in Memphis that we've been working with here in Little Rock. She is contacting the TX Siamese Rescue group to get. (I'd also forwarded this to someone in the TX SR group -- don't know if that is the same contact she made or not. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:CARROLLTON, TX ANIMAL SERVICES Can someone help this kitty? PTS SCHEDULED FOR EARLY AM WEDNESDAY 10/11. Please call the shelter at 972-466-3420 x3 to tag, if possible, by Tuesday 10/10 6pm. Note that you can email right up until prior to 7am Wednesday 10/11 EMAIL:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (@cityofcarrolton.com) PLEASE consider tagging or pulling any available kitty as soon as available to rescue. Remember that Halloween is approaching and there are people that may come to the shelter looking for a black cat and/or white cat although all colors may be most at risk. This is the time of year kitties need RESCUE orgs to help them please especially consider the entire group below upon availability and PULL ASAP.
THANKS!!! ITSY, M, CHOCOLATE POINT SIAMESE (FULL), ID 14159 This is the most beautiful big 20 lb kitty found out and about (we think his name is really cute - probably for ITSY-BITSY.) He has a great personality and is friends with everyone. AVAILABLE TO RESCUE NOW. ALREADY NEUTERED! If not adopted or rescued this week, will be on next week's PTS list. AVAILABILITY: ALL ON CURRENT PTS LIST NEED TO BE TAGGED OR PULLED PRIOR TO COB 6PM, Tuesday, 10/10. EMAILS ACCEPTED RIGHT UP UNTIL 7AM WEDNESDAY, 10/11 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] (@cityofcarrollton.com) CONTACT: Carrollton Animal Services at 972-466-3420 x3. ADDRESS: 2727 Nimitz Ln, Carrollton, TX 75007 HOURS: SHELTER IS OPEN M-W-F (10am-5pm) and T-TH
(10am-6pm) and Saturday (1:30pm-5pm). GENERAL PUBLIC ADOPTION FEES (does not apply to rescue org with 501c3): ONLY $10 ADOPTION FEE FOR EVERY KITTEN, CAT, PUPPY, OR DOG BUT REQUIRED TO PURCHASE A $50 SPAY/NEUTER VOUCHER FOR EVERY ANIMAL NOT ALREADY NEUTERED/SPAYED. $5 for CITY REGISTRATION ONLY IF YOU LIVE IN THE CITY OF CARROLLTON. RESCUE GROUP REQUIREMENTS: Appropriate 501c3 documentation on file, tag letter, please call shelter for info. Terrie Mohr-ForkerTAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTSSIAMESE & COLLIE RESCUEDonations accepted at:https://www.paypal.com/http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescuehttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.htmlhttp://www.felineleukemia.org/http://www.hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.htmlhttp://www.petloss.com/

Re: Spencer and the difficulty of final decisions

2006-10-10 Thread Marylyn

After walking the walk with the Royal Princess Kitty Kattgive them 
the opportunity to leave on their own.  Don't rush them on their journey. 
You would not want to be rushed on yours.  If you know in your heart that 
you would want to be helped along if your were in their paws consider it. 
Or if they flat tell you it is time and they need or want help.


The awful thing is you have to be so much stronger to do this.  With Kitty I 
have no doubt that I did right letting her leave on her own.


Blessings to you.






If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
from the shelter of 
compassion and pity, you will have men who
will deal likewise with 
their fellow man.
 St. 
Francis
- Original Message - 
From: "Nina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: ; "Carol Robinson" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 2:52 PM
Subject: Spencer and the difficulty of final decisions



Belinda,
Thank you so much for your suggestions.  You're right, I don't know what's 
going on with him exactly.  Who knows, it could be Pancreatitis.  I'm in 
that terrible position of wondering, 'if only'.  I was stewing in that 
feeling all day yesterday.  It's making me wonder if my resistance to all 
the suggested testing was misguided.  I'm at that terrible point were I 
know we're just about out of time, where there's still life, and therefore 
still hope, but hope is dwindling rapidly.  As I told you, I had the 
housecall vet on the phone this morning.  He even had a cancellation and 
could have come this afternoon.  I hung up without making an appointment. 
Something is holding me back from making that final decision.  I tend to 
think, when I feel this way, that perhaps there's a miracle just waiting, 
if only I could figure out what to do to nudge it along.  Before I began 
this post, I was thinking maybe I could call the housecall vet back and 
have him come draw blood for more tests.  Unfortunately, Spencer's so 
emaciated at this point, I doubt his veins would support a blood draw.  I 
have a call into my AC...  I'm wondering if perhaps my hesitation to 
relieve Spencer of his practically useless body has more to do with 
allowing death to take it's natural course.  Maybe the light in his eyes 
has more to do with him being glad for the opportunity to pass on his own 
then what I was hopefully interpreting yesterday as an indication of 
possible recovery.  I know everyone on the list knows, (and of course 
Hideyo has just gone through it with her little Tsubomi), just how hard it 
is to watch and wait and comfort and cry through that process.  I've 
always believed that euthanasia is a gift of love, that if it is done for 
the animal and not for our own convenience, or even to ease our own 
suffering, then it is the right thing to do.  In Spencer's case, I'm not 
getting any of the signals that normally tell me this is what he wants... 
So, I continue to wait and watch and support and try to be brave through 
my tears.

Nina


Belinda wrote:

Steriods will help any kind of inflammation not just inflammation from 
cancer.  They also help many other conditions.

Spencer and the difficulty of final decisions

2006-10-10 Thread Nina


Belinda,
Thank you so much for your suggestions.  You're right, I don't know 
what's going on with him exactly.  Who knows, it could be Pancreatitis.  
I'm in that terrible position of wondering, 'if only'.  I was stewing in 
that feeling all day yesterday.  It's making me wonder if my resistance 
to all the suggested testing was misguided.  I'm at that terrible point 
were I know we're just about out of time, where there's still life, and 
therefore still hope, but hope is dwindling rapidly.  As I told you, I 
had the housecall vet on the phone this morning.  He even had a 
cancellation and could have come this afternoon.  I hung up without 
making an appointment.  Something is holding me back from making that 
final decision.  I tend to think, when I feel this way, that perhaps 
there's a miracle just waiting, if only I could figure out what to do to 
nudge it along.  Before I began this post, I was thinking maybe I could 
call the housecall vet back and have him come draw blood for more 
tests.  Unfortunately, Spencer's so emaciated at this point, I doubt his 
veins would support a blood draw.  I have a call into my AC...  I'm 
wondering if perhaps my hesitation to relieve Spencer of his practically 
useless body has more to do with allowing death to take it's natural 
course.  Maybe the light in his eyes has more to do with him being glad 
for the opportunity to pass on his own then what I was hopefully 
interpreting yesterday as an indication of possible recovery.  I know 
everyone on the list knows, (and of course Hideyo has just gone through 
it with her little Tsubomi), just how hard it is to watch and wait and 
comfort and cry through that process.  I've always believed that 
euthanasia is a gift of love, that if it is done for the animal and not 
for our own convenience, or even to ease our own suffering, then it is 
the right thing to do.  In Spencer's case, I'm not getting any of the 
signals that normally tell me this is what he wants...  So, I continue 
to wait and watch and support and try to be brave through my tears.

Nina


Belinda wrote:

Steriods will help any kind of inflammation not just inflammation from 
cancer.  They also help many other conditions.

Re: Another vet visit for Spencer?

Steriods will help any kind of inflammation not just inflammation from 
cancer.  They also help many other conditions.


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Re: Another vet visit for Spencer?

  Too much pepcid also causes stomach upset and can be hard on the 
kidney's (learned this from the CRF group I'm on).  Fred who does have 
stomach upset and was vomiting foamy stuff, gets a 1/4 tablet a day and 
most CRF kitties start out on 1/4 EOD, the least amount you need to use 
to solve the problem the better.


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Re: Another vet visit for Spencer?

   Spencer has never been diagnosed with cancer.  It is suspected but 
has never been confirmed, it could be many things going on with him, I 
personally would take him to the vet.  His symptoms of not wanting to 
eat are exactly what Bailey was going thorough and I will always wonder 
if his undiagnosed and untreated pancreatitis turned into cancer.


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Re: My precious Tsubomi has now become free --

2006-10-10 Thread Barb Moermond

I'm so sorry Hideyo, GLOW to light her path and ease your heart...Hideyo Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Hi, I just wanted to let you know that my baby Tsubomi has decided to leave the body which no longer allowed her to do things she wanted to do and now transited to a place where she had a infinity of freedom  I was holding her all day and all night and she crossed in my arms  felk is such a scary disease  everything happened so quickly, before last Friday, she was acting just fine  but I wish I had paid a little more attention to her little signs though ---     Again, thank you all for all the prayers and encouragement  I and Tsubomi will be forever connected with our souls.. I will just miss holding her and seeing her body so terribly.. it just hasnt hit me.. I am sort of in shock.. but I know its going to be painful when it does..        Hideyo Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito"My cat the clown:  paying no mind to whom he should impress.  Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile."- Anonymous 
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Re: Another vet visit for Spencer?

   Sounds very much like pancreatitis, this is exactly how Bailey 
acted, very uncomfortable when I fed him.


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Re: My precious Tsubomi has now become free --

2006-10-10 Thread dede hicken

May you find peace Hideyo.  I know how you feel.  Just
know you will both see each other again.  To have a
cat love you as much as you do them is a most precious
gift.

Go with God,
Dede

--- Hideyo Yamamoto
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi, I just wanted to let you know that my baby
> Tsubomi has decided to
> leave the body which no longer allowed her to do
> things she wanted to do
> and now transited to a place where she had a
> infinity of freedom - I was
> holding her all day and all night and she crossed in
> my arms - felk is
> such a scary disease - everything happened so
> quickly, before last
> Friday, she was acting just fine - but I wish I had
> paid a little more
> attention to her little signs though ---
> 
>  
> 
> Again, thank you all for all the prayers and
> encouragement - I and
> Tsubomi will be forever connected with our souls.. I
> will just miss
> holding her and seeing her body so terribly.. it
> just hasn't hit me.. I
> am sort of in shock.. but I know it's going to be
> painful when it does..
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Hideyo 
> 
> 


"When you are in the service of your fellow beings, you are only in the service 
of your God"
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Re: Sharing price information

2006-10-10 Thread wendy

Hi Kelly,

I would be happy to compile the info. that everyone
posts.  I just need a little patience from anyone
waiting for it, as it might take some time to get
everything together.  I think it's a fantastic idea. 
I would have to think about how to do the layout, but
I would do it in Excel, which hopefully everyone has
on their computer.  If not, I know there is probably
be someone out there on this list who would be willing
to scan the document into a PDF file so the remaining
people who can't download in Excel can download in
Adobe.  I don't have a scanner.  Everyone, send me
your prices and location (and whether that price comes
from a low-cost clinic, or a regular city, suburban,
or rural vet)!!!

:)
Wendy 

--- kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> At 08:46 PM 10/9/2006, you wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Is there a way we can give a geographical location
> and some basic 
> ideas of what we pay for specific procedures,
> for example here several of the vets charge 165 for
> a senior 
> panel,,,the SNAP combo test ranges for 39 to 60,,,A
> CBC is about 
> 50,,Spay can go from 50 to 200Dentals from 100
> to 400.
> I would like to compile something that could benefit
> others so they 
> can see common prices and ranges in different areas
> and perhaps find 
> a more cost efficient local vet..
> I am in the Central Valley ( Fresno) of California.
> It is an ag based 
> community,
> Kelly
> 
> 
> >I am absolutely drooling over those prices..  I
> am limited 
> >(hmph) to two kitties by lease and since I take
> them to a cat only 
> >vet (very very good, I love them) I can barely
> afford the two!  I 
> >love my vets and the care they give my boys, but I
> know I couldn't 
> >afford their prices on the problems a kitty that
> finds me would 
> >have.  Right now, we're coasting smoothly along -
> Bandit is keeping 
> >his weight up and Smoky has no bladder issues
> (knocking on wood) - 
> >but Smoky had 4 or 5 episodes of cystitis last
> winter from 
> >Thanksgiving to about Valentine's.  A LOT of
>  especially 
> >with 2 visits to the ER...  I live in a moderately
> small city with a 
> >lot of vets and a vet school, so I am lucky in the
> array of choices 
> >available.  But I've done phone surveys of 8-10
> clinics to see if I 
> >could find a place noticeably less expensive for
> the 2 physicals and 
> >baseline bloodwork.  They were all within about $30
> of each other, 
> >so why go to a vet who doesn't know them...
> >
> >Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >I think it is going to vary a lot by location.
> >
> >We have a lot of city subsidized services here.
> >
> >Since I live in the poor area of town I get free
> spay/neuter, 
> >rabies, and city registration.  I have to take a
> day off work and 
> >get up at 5 am and wait in line.  Supposedly we are
> limited to 3 
> >animals per person per visit, but I have taken i
> more.  They will 
> >spay as many as they have time to do.   There is
> another rescue lady 
> >who is there every time.
> >
> >Microchip is $10, fvcrp shot 11, felv shot 10.
> >
> >I can get dentals for about $30, plus blood work
> $20..then each 
> >tooth that needs to be extracted is $5 to $20.
> >
> >I know I am lucky.
> >
> >Echocardiogram from the cardiologist is $340.
> >
> >My vet does not charge me for exams because I bring
> him so much business.
> >
> >We have a compounding phrmacy in town...I just paid
> $49 for 
> >flagyl..ouch ouch..but some people don't have
> compounding pharmacies 
> >near them...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >On 10/9/06, kelly
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >All of us in these feline groups spend a lot of
> money helping our
> >cats, Our vets order test,,,labs,,meds etc and we
> really have no idea
> >what most people are paying for these procedures,be
> it a spay or a
> >dental,,ultra sound or Xray
> >I am hoping there is very computer literate person
> out there who
> >might be willing to keep the bo9oks so to
> say...just have a way to
> >post the information that is sent in my
> members,,,This information
> >should be able to be cross posted to any groups in
> need of this information.
> >I am ignorant on how to...and my time has totally
> disappeared be I help.
> >We can even list the vet practices and geographical
> location which
> >might really help so many in need,,
> >Is this a feasibility???
> >Kelly
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >--
> >Vist the Austin Siamese Rescue store and save a
> kitty life!
> >
>
>http://www.cafepress.com/austinsiamese
> >
> >http://astore.amazon.com/austinsiamese-20
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito
> >
> >"My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should
> impress. Merely 
> >living his life, doing what pleases him, and making
> me smile."
> >- Anonymous
> >
> >
> >Get your email and more, right on the 
>
>new
> Yahoo.com
> >No virus found in this

RE: My precious Tsubomi has now become free --

Hideyo,

I am so sorry about your precious Tsubomi.  My heart
breaks for you.

Cindy Reasoner

--- "Wolf, Leah R." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Dear Hideyo,
>  
> I am so sorry.  Don't blame yourself.  Cats are so
> good at not showing
> how sick they really are and when we realize what is
> happening it can be
> too late.  It was her time to go and she will be
> waiting for you.
>  
>  
> Leah
> 
> 
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Hideyo
> Yamamoto
> Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 12:22 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org;
> [EMAIL PROTECTED];
> [EMAIL PROTECTED];
> [EMAIL PROTECTED];
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: My precious Tsubomi has now become free --
> 
> 
> 
> Hi, I just wanted to let you know that my baby
> Tsubomi has decided to
> leave the body which no longer allowed her to do
> things she wanted to do
> and now transited to a place where she had a
> infinity of freedom - I was
> holding her all day and all night and she crossed in
> my arms - felk is
> such a scary disease - everything happened so
> quickly, before last
> Friday, she was acting just fine - but I wish I had
> paid a little more
> attention to her little signs though ---
> 
>  
> 
> Again, thank you all for all the prayers and
> encouragement - I and
> Tsubomi will be forever connected with our souls.. I
> will just miss
> holding her and seeing her body so terribly.. it
> just hasn't hit me.. I
> am sort of in shock.. but I know it's going to be
> painful when it does..
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Hideyo
> 
> 


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Re: My precious Tsubomi has now become free --

2006-10-10 Thread etrent


I am so sorry, Hideyo.


 


elizabeth


 
 
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Hi, I just wanted to let you know that my baby Tsubomi has decided to leave the body which no longer allowed her to do things she wanted to do and now transited to a place where she had a infinity of freedom – I was holding her all day and all night and she crossed in my arms – felk is such a scary disease – everything happened so quickly, before last Friday, she was acting just fine – but I wish I had paid a little more attention to her little signs though ---


 


Again, thank you all for all the prayers and encouragement – I and Tsubomi will be forever connected with our souls.. I will just miss holding her and seeing her body so terribly.. it just hasn’t hit me.. I am sort of in shock.. but I know it’s going to be painful when it does..


 


 


Hideyo 





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Re: My precious Tsubomi has now become free --

2006-10-10 Thread jenmeyer

"Sleep soundly little one, for your brand new journey has just begun."

Please take care of yourself, Hideyo, and let us know if you need 
anything at all!

Jen


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unique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the world; 
You become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed..." --Antoine 
de Saint-Exupéry

"If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know 
each other.  If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and 
what you do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys." --
Chief Dan George

"The flame that burns twice as bright burns half as long..." --Blade 
Runner

Re: My precious Tsubomi has now become free --

2006-10-10 Thread Marylyn




You did exactly what Tsubomi wanted you to do and 
you were holding her and loving her when she left.  
 
Bless you and her.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
If you have men who will exclude any of God's 
creatures 
from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who 
 
will deal likewise with their fellow 
man.  
St. Francis

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Hideyo Yamamoto 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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  Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 11:21 
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  Subject: My precious Tsubomi has now 
  become free --
  
  
  Hi, I just wanted to let you know 
  that my baby Tsubomi has decided to leave the body which no longer allowed her 
  to do things she wanted to do and now transited to a place where she had a 
  infinity of freedom  I was holding her all day and all night and she crossed 
  in my arms  felk is such a scary disease  everything happened so quickly, 
  before last Friday, she was acting just fine  but I wish I had paid a little 
  more attention to her little signs though ---
   
  Again, thank you all for all the 
  prayers and encouragement  I and Tsubomi will be forever connected with our 
  souls.. I will just miss holding her and seeing her body so terribly.. it just 
  hasnt hit me.. I am sort of in shock.. but I know its going to be painful 
  when it does..
   
   
  Hideyo

Re: My precious Tsubomi has now become free --

2006-10-10 Thread TatorBunz

Hideyo,
I'm so sorry my heart aches for you. Please believe you did
everything within reason for Tsubomi. She knows how much you loved her and she
loved you as well.
Yes, the shock of it will come soon.
That's the worst part when reality sets in.
Please take care of yourself and get some much needed rest.
Your other furbabies will need you to be strong for them
too.
Please accept my condolences in your loss.
In a message dated 10/10/2006 9:25:54 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Hi, I just wanted to let you know
that my baby Tsubomi has decided to leave the body which no longer allowed her
to do things she wanted to do and now transited to a place where she had a
infinity of freedom – I was holding her all day and all night and she crossed
in my arms – felk is such a scary disease – everything happened so quickly,
before last Friday, she was acting just fine – but I wish I had paid a little
more attention to her little signs though ---
Again, thank you all for all the
prayers and encouragement – I and Tsubomi will be forever connected with our
souls.. I will just miss holding her and seeing her body so terribly.. it just
hasn’t hit me.. I am sort of in shock.. but I know it’s going to be painful
when it does..
Hideyo

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RE: My precious Tsubomi has now become free --

2006-10-10 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane




My deepest condolences, Hideyo.  May Tsubomi have a 
swift and gentle journey to the Bridge.
 
Diane R.


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hideyo 
YamamotoSent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 11:22 AMTo: 
felvtalk@felineleukemia.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: My precious Tsubomi 
has now become free --


Hi, I just wanted to let you know 
that my baby Tsubomi has decided to leave the body which no longer allowed her 
to do things she wanted to do and now transited to a place where she had a 
infinity of freedom – I was holding her all day and all night and she crossed in 
my arms – felk is such a scary disease – everything happened so quickly, before 
last Friday, she was acting just fine – but I wish I had paid a little more 
attention to her little signs though ---
 
Again, thank you all for all the 
prayers and encouragement – I and Tsubomi will be forever connected with our 
souls.. I will just miss holding her and seeing her body so terribly.. it just 
hasn’t hit me.. I am sort of in shock.. but I know it’s going to be painful when 
it does..
 
 
Hideyo 


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Re: My precious Tsubomi has now become free --

2006-10-10 Thread wendy

Hi Hideyo,

I am so sorry about little Tsubomi.  How long did you
have Tsubomi?  I couldn't remember if she had
originally come with you to the U.S. or if that was
another kitty.  I hope Tsubomi's sweet memories
comfort you while you grieve for her.  Prayers going
out for your comfort and peace.  I am glad she is pain
free now.

:)
Wendy

--- Hideyo Yamamoto
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi, I just wanted to let you know that my baby
> Tsubomi has decided to
> leave the body which no longer allowed her to do
> things she wanted to do
> and now transited to a place where she had a
> infinity of freedom - I was
> holding her all day and all night and she crossed in
> my arms - felk is
> such a scary disease - everything happened so
> quickly, before last
> Friday, she was acting just fine - but I wish I had
> paid a little more
> attention to her little signs though ---
> 
>  
> 
> Again, thank you all for all the prayers and
> encouragement - I and
> Tsubomi will be forever connected with our souls.. I
> will just miss
> holding her and seeing her body so terribly.. it
> just hasn't hit me.. I
> am sort of in shock.. but I know it's going to be
> painful when it does..
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Hideyo 
> 
> 

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RE: My precious Tsubomi has now become free --

2006-10-10 Thread Wolf, Leah R.




Dear Hideyo,
 
I am so sorry.  Don't blame yourself.  Cats are 
so good at not showing how sick they really are and when we realize what is 
happening it can be too late.  It was her time to go and she will be 
waiting for you.
 
 
Leah



From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
On Behalf Of Hideyo YamamotoSent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 
12:22 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org; 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: My precious Tsubomi 
has now become free --


Hi, I just wanted to let you know 
that my baby Tsubomi has decided to leave the body which no longer allowed her 
to do things she wanted to do and now transited to a place where she had a 
infinity of freedom – I was holding her all day and all night and she crossed in 
my arms – felk is such a scary disease – everything happened so quickly, before 
last Friday, she was acting just fine – but I wish I had paid a little more 
attention to her little signs though ---
 
Again, thank you all for all the 
prayers and encouragement – I and Tsubomi will be forever connected with our 
souls.. I will just miss holding her and seeing her body so terribly.. it just 
hasn’t hit me.. I am sort of in shock.. but I know it’s going to be painful when 
it does..
 
 
Hideyo

Re: My precious Tsubomi has now become free --

2006-10-10 Thread TenHouseCats


oh, sweetie, i'm so sorry. i've been sending prayers and light, even
tho i haven't been able to post.

thank you for loving her so much.

MC

On 10/10/06, Hideyo Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:




Hi, I just wanted to let you know that my baby Tsubomi has decided to leave
the body which no longer allowed her to do things she wanted to do and now
transited to a place where she had a infinity of freedom – I was holding her
all day and all night and she crossed in my arms – felk is such a scary
disease – everything happened so quickly, before last Friday, she was acting
just fine – but I wish I had paid a little more attention to her little
signs though ---



Again, thank you all for all the prayers and encouragement – I and Tsubomi
will be forever connected with our souls.. I will just miss holding her and
seeing her body so terribly.. it just hasn't hit me.. I am sort of in
shock.. but I know it's going to be painful when it does..





Hideyo



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My precious Tsubomi has now become free --

2006-10-10 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto









Hi, I just wanted to let you know that my baby Tsubomi has decided
to leave the body which no longer allowed her to do things she wanted to do and
now transited to a place where she had a infinity of freedom – I was
holding her all day and all night and she crossed in my arms – felk is
such a scary disease – everything happened so quickly, before last
Friday, she was acting just fine – but I wish I had paid a little more
attention to her little signs though ---

 

Again, thank you all for all the prayers and encouragement –
I and Tsubomi will be forever connected with our souls.. I will just miss
holding her and seeing her body so terribly.. it just hasn’t hit me.. I
am sort of in shock.. but I know it’s going to be painful when it does..

 

 

Hideyo

OT: Kayte's saying

2006-10-10 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane







From: 
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On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 
2006 8:26 AMTo: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: 
Another vet visit for Spencer?"Be 
kinder than 
necessary, 
for everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle.." 
 
Oh my God, how simple yet profound is 
THIS?
 
Diane 
R.
 

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Re: dental work

I only had a problem once with any of my babies after
a dental.  It was with Madison and it took her a few
days to get over the anesthesia.  They use something
different now but I can't remember the name of it.  It
is on her chart at the vet's office.  The vet I use
will send them home with antibiotics and pain medicine
if they had any extractions.  Also, the vet will have
me feed them soft food for about 5 days. They do blood
work before they sedate them to be sure nothing is
going on they don't know about.  I am taking my dog
(Mollie) tomorrow to get a dental.  I hope this helps.

Cindy Reasoner

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hi guys
> I was just reading the sharing price archive and it
> made me think!! In a  
> month or so Crackers will be going for a dental
> check up. His first. What  
> exactly happens and can anyone share experiences
> such as how their babies felt  and 
> acted afterwards, what things are usually done? All
> the vet told me was that  
> in the future we will do dental work. Nothing to
> worry about now. I read once  
> where an owner got gold caps on the kitties teeth.
> LOL! i dont think cracker 
> is  the kinda bling bling cat!! Hope all is well
> much love
> Kayte and Crackers
> Ps he has had his teeth and gums checked at each 
> visit.
> 

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Re: dental work




thanks jenn
I am printing what u said out so i can make sure Crackers gets the best 
care. He is 5 yrs "young" LOL. he is the biggest baby loves kisses but LOL 
doesn't like vet...I have to brush he to make him stay on table:) that usually 
works! Thank again!
Kayte and Crackers

Re: dental work

2006-10-10 Thread Tad Burnett





Cats teeth are designed for tearing meat off the bone.. Not so much for
grinding food up
as with humans... Cats have stronger stomach acid and can swallow and
digest larger
chunks of food... Thus they can do without teeth and eat most
commercial cat food...
My cats have never had a problem and have been eating normally within a
few hours
after an extraction... Often eating better than before when they had
pain in their mouth..
Actually tooth problems is a major cause of not eating... And gum
problems are big
with FeLV+ cats...

On the other hand if an infection gets in the jaw, which does happen,
it can be very hard
to get rid of and can end up killing the cat...

My personal opinion... If a tooth is giving problem, just pull it
out... And if that means
pulling them all out.. so be it...

If all they need is cleaning then that is great !!!
Tad

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
  
  
  Hi guys
  I was just reading the sharing price archive and it made me
think!! In a month or so Crackers will be going for a dental check up.
His first. What exactly happens and can anyone share experiences such
as how their babies felt and acted afterwards, what things are usually
done? All the vet told me was that in the future we will do dental
work. Nothing to worry about now. I read once where an owner got gold
caps on the kitties teeth. LOL! i dont think cracker is the kinda bling
bling cat!! Hope all is well
  much love
  Kayte and Crackers
  Ps he has had his teeth and gums checked at each visit.

Re: dental work

2006-10-10 Thread jenmeyer

Hi Kayte!

I do alot of the teeth cleanings at my clinic, so I can tell you how 
we do them and what to ask your vet if that will help!

A regular dental does involve your pet being sedated and 
intubated...ask your vet what type of anesthetic will be used (we use 
isofluorane--an inhalant anesthetic that is considered very safe as it 
is not metabolized by the body and allows a fast recovery).  As for 
the dental itself, depending on the condition of the teeth (amount of 
tartar, etc.), the length of time it takes for a full cleaning is 
about 1/2 hour...We use an ultrasonic "water pick" similar to what 
human dentists use to scale the teeth, then polish (again, like human 
dentists do) and apply fluoride!  Depending on your clinic, there may 
be a dental technician who does the cleaning with the vet standing by 
to perform any extractions, or the vet may do the cleaning herself!

As for other questions you may want to ask...I'm not sure how old 
Crackers is, but if he is older, be sure to ask whether or not the 
clinic has a heating device to keep his body temp regulated while 
sedated.  Body temps drop when sedated which can drop blood pressure 
and make the recovery process much longer...especially in older pets!  
You may also want to ask about fluid therapy while sedated and even 
during the recovery process (I.V. drip)...it's not a necessary thing, 
but can aid in a smooth recovery process!

Overall, a dental is a safe procedure!  Just get all the assurances on 
the sedation process (we typically pre-med with atropine and some type 
of pain management med...as a sidenote for DOG owners, beware of the 
use of ketoprofen as a pain med for DOGS!!  It's rare, but severe 
ulcering of the GI tract can occur)!

Hope this helps!

Jen



"But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will be 
unique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the world; 
You become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed..." --Antoine 
de Saint-Exupéry

"If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know 
each other.  If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and 
what you do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys." --
Chief Dan George

"The flame that burns twice as bright burns half as long..." --Blade 
Runner

- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 9:00 am
Subject: dental work
To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

> Hi guys
> I was just reading the sharing price archive and it made me 
> think!! In a  
> month or so Crackers will be going for a dental check up. His 
> first. What  
> exactly happens and can anyone share experiences such as how their 
> babies felt  and 
> acted afterwards, what things are usually done? All the vet told 
> me was that  
> in the future we will do dental work. Nothing to worry about now. 
> I read once  
> where an owner got gold caps on the kitties teeth. LOL! i dont 
> think cracker 
> is  the kinda bling bling cat!! Hope all is well
> much love
> Kayte and Crackers
> Ps he has had his teeth and gums checked at each  visit.
>

Re: What do i do?

2006-10-10 Thread Tad Burnett





No... You can't tell for sure without tests... I think this is called
an educated guess...
And probably a good likely hood of being right...

The treatment for an FeLV+ cat is basically the same as it should be
for a neg. cat...
Good food.. Good care... low stress... Not running outside where it is
exposed to
other diseases and weather extremes... A trip to the vet at the first
sign of a bug...
Interferon... but actually this too has worked in neg.  cats for hard
URI cases

Some vets will push expensive testing at every chance and others will
make you ask
for it... Same with treatment... There are many cats that are FeLV+
that are living 
good lives although probably short and no one will ever know they were
pos... 
And there are many healthy cats that are tested pos. and put to sleep
without
anyone being asked if they want to keep the cat for the rest of its
healthy life...

The trick is to find a vet that will treat in accordance with your
wants... Most vets
are flexible but you may have to make yourself known as to what you
want...
Tad

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
  
  
  Hi
  I am also pretty new at FELV my cat Crackers hasnt been sick yet
except eye infection, but there are many "pros" on here. I would get
another opinion though. It doesn't sound right that a vet can look at a
kitty and say he has FELV Pos. and the other kitty looks like he is
getting it?? I only have 1 cat 5yrs old and the only way I found out he
was POS was a blood test. Looking at him 20 lbs and thick coat he looks
like a healthy LOVE bug:) I know animals have there own "issues" but
isnt that kinda like you and hubby/ significant other going to Drs and
the Dr. saying oh you look like you have HIV and your "partner" does
too. Guys is that true? Can a vet tell if a cat is FELV POS by just
looking at the cat?
  Kayte and Crackers

Re: Prayers for my Tsubomi

Hideyo, I am so sorry to hear Tsubomi isn't doing any
better.  I pray that her final days are peaceful. 
Both of you are in my prayers.

Cindy Reasoner

--- Hideyo Yamamoto
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> First, I wanted to thank you all for all your
> prayers, advise and
> encouragement for my Tsubomi - I am staying home
> with Tsubomi today as I
> feel that her final days of her life this time
> around is approaching -
> she is having a bit difficult time breathing and she
> is very cold
> because of her severe anemia - I had thought of
> getting her another
> transfusion, but by this morning, I did not want her
> to go through what
> she went through last time (waiting around at
> emergency clinic and
> stayed there for 8 hours) - it's extremely difficult
> to watch her just
> die.. but I know that she does not want me to drag
> her into the car or
> any stranger coming to the house - so this is what I
> decided with
> Tsubomi - I am going to stay with her and watch her
> and hold her so that
> she can cross the bridge at her home - I am crying
> as I type this, but I
> am trying not to cry in front of Tsubomi and Ginger
> as I don't want to
> upset them..
> 
>  
> 
> I am asking you all for another prayers for my
> belived Tsubomi so that
> she can cross the bridge and be transited to her
> freedom very peacefully
> --- any advise as to how I can make her feel more
> comfortable is
> extrememly appreciated - thank you all - It's so
> nice to have you
> around..
> 
>  
> 
> Hideyo and Tsubomi
> 
> 


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dental work




Hi guys
I was just reading the sharing price archive and it made me think!! In a 
month or so Crackers will be going for a dental check up. His first. What 
exactly happens and can anyone share experiences such as how their babies felt 
and acted afterwards, what things are usually done? All the vet told me was that 
in the future we will do dental work. Nothing to worry about now. I read once 
where an owner got gold caps on the kitties teeth. LOL! i dont think cracker is 
the kinda bling bling cat!! Hope all is well
much love
Kayte and Crackers
Ps he has had his teeth and gums checked at each 
visit.

Re: Another vet visit for Spencer?

Nina, I am so sorry to hear about Spencer.  I am
praying that he will start eating again.  I know when
some of my babies won't eat I will get a rotisserie
chicken from the grocery store and sometimes they will
eat that.  I know it may not help with Spencer.  Both
of you are in my prayers.

Cindy Reasoner

--- Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi Guys,
> I can't make up my mind about Spencer.  He's been on
> the dex shots since 
> 9/7.  I started to half his dose eod on Sat.  It
> doesn't seemed to have 
> had any negative effect.  If it wasn't for the fact
> that he's all but 
> stopped eating, I would think he was on his way to
> recovery.  He's so 
> emaciated now.  He continues to enjoy life, he does
> things that are not 
> at all in line with someone that is dying.  He has
> decided that the roof 
> of our outside habitat is the perfect place to get
> away from it all and 
> somehow he scales the 8 foot fence to climb up
> there.  The first day he 
> did it I helped him down, figuring he wouldn't be
> able to do it 
> himself.  I was wrong.  I haven't seen him do it,
> but he gets up and 
> down on his own.  He's active during the night and
> his eyes are bright.  
> He's not hiding, he's not sleeping excessively, when
> he sees me approach 
> he meows hello to me, if only he would eat!  I've
> tried assit feeding 
> him.  He stresses out and won't swallow.  He acts
> like he's interested 
> in food, sometimes he'll take a couple of bites,
> then he makes a face 
> like the food is his enemy, like it makes his
> stomach hurt to eat.  It 
> doesn't seem like he's not eating because he's
> preparing to die, it's 
> like it hurts to eat, so he won't eat.
> 
> Bruce thinks I should leave him alone, that I
> shouldn't bring him back 
> to the vet.  He thinks that I'll only be making the
> time he has left 
> miserable to do so.  I just don't know what to do. 
> When I ask Spencer 
> about going to the vet to see if they can help, I
> swear I hear him say 
> NO!  No more vets!  I don't know if this is wishful
> thinking on my part, 
> but I keep wanting to save him.  We never had a
> diffinative 
> diagnosis...  I hate the idea of him slowly starving
> to death.  I hate 
> the idea of pts before he's ready.  I hate the idea
> of bringing him to 
> the vet and putting him through the poking and
> proding.  I just don't 
> know what to do.
> 
> Thanks for listening,
> Nina
> 
> 
> 
> 


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Re: What do i do?




Hi
I am also pretty new at FELV my cat Crackers hasnt been sick yet except eye 
infection, but there are many "pros" on here. I would get another opinion 
though. It doesn't sound right that a vet can look at a kitty and say he has 
FELV Pos. and the other kitty looks like he is getting it?? I only have 1 cat 
5yrs old and the only way I found out he was POS was a blood test. Looking at 
him 20 lbs and thick coat he looks like a healthy LOVE bug:) I know animals have 
there own "issues" but isnt that kinda like you and hubby/ significant other 
going to Drs and the Dr. saying oh you look like you have HIV and your "partner" 
does too. Guys is that true? Can a vet tell if a cat is FELV POS by just looking 
at the cat?
Kayte and Crackers

Re: Prayers for my Tsubomi




Many prayers for you and Tsubomi!! Hope you are feeling better soon.
Kayte and Crackers

Re: Another vet visit for Spencer?




Nina 
I just read the entire group listing! I am sooo sorry about Spencer and I 
dont have any experience with the sickness part. Pokemon died from lyphomia but 
I didn't even know she had it!! She got sick and in a short time was gone. Then 
again I thought she was a kitten and she was 6-7 yrs old. She was a stray i 
foundAnyways..I am holding you and Spencer in my heart and prayers. My God 
its so hard to read about Spencer. Poor little thing. But Nina Spencer loves 
you! That's why he came back to you his mommy and that's why he is still here. 
Our cats have there special connection with us! I dont know what I would do if 
Crackers was in Spencers situation. I would follow my heart! Good luck in the 
battle and Bless you guys.
Kayte and Crackers
"Be 
kinder than 
necessary, 
for everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle.."

Re: Another vet visit for Spencer?

2006-10-10 Thread Lernermichelle




Nina, I am really sorry. This is the hardest thing in the world.
Michelle

Re: Another vet visit for Spencer?