Yesterday at one point Lucy howled and started open mouth breathing and
stumbled to the garage door where there is cold air. I assumed (and still
think)
it was her anemia getting so bad she was not getting enough oxygen. I almost
reached for valium to knock her out for euthanasia, but
Michelle,
Am still thinking of you and Lucy. I know from
experience that a cat's HCT can be super low, and they
are still alive. Again, you will know. You are doing
everything right, and have gotten advice from
knowlegable people. When the time comes, you will be
at peace knowing you did
No - you are not horrible at all. You are thinking of Lucy and how to do
what is best and what is right for her. Use your intuition, Michelle - you
know her better than anyone.
This is such a terrible disease. I've only started reading about it since
your ordeal. My heart and my prayers are
Michelle,
The thing with force feeding is that it's worth it if it gets them through
something, it's not worth it if it doesn't. And the hard thing with that is
that you don't know which situation you're in.
Give her a day to not eat to see if the appetite will come back of its own
accord.
Michelle,
I don't think you are horrible for considering euthanizing Lucy. You've
thrown everything but the kitchen sink at her and she hasn't responded
the way you hoped and now it seems you've come to the agonizing point
of resolving yourself to the fact that your intervention won't be
At 11:11 AM 2/4/2007, you wrote:
I am soo happy these guys are safe and warm and cared for. It is
amazing that regardless of our distress we always accommodate just
one more and sleep so much better knowing they are safe.
PLEASE let us know how they are doing,, no go make some hot chocolate
Patti, you are a wonder! Congratulations on getting the furbabies inside
and safe from the storm. Here are vibes that they both check out OK at the
vet and that Bart doesn't have FIP. You go girl!!
Diane R.
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Hi, does anyone know a lot about essiat tonic and what it does to the
body? Is it good for other than cancers?
actually, I think I meant to ask if I am horrible if I don't euthanise her,
not if I do. She is clearly suffering to some extent. Every once in a while
she seems to need air, meows and breathes with her mouth open, and if we open
a door or window to the cold air she settles down. I gave
I have backed off the meds. Just steroid shot once a day, and I gave her a
metronidazole and her clindamycin once yesterday instead of twice, in case the
metronidazole helps her diarrhea or the clindamycin helps the congestion. And
nose drops every other day. That's all, though.
I dont
I just don't know Michelle were she my cat, I would have euth'd her
already, but she's not my cat. I do know purring isn't necessarily a good
sign, they purr when they are miserable too. I think maybe it's time, but
only you can see her, and read her body language.
Phaewryn
At 12:20 PM 2/4/2007, you wrote:
We tend to put our own subjective feelings on theirbehavior, Cats do
purr a lot if they are in severe pain, It is just a reaction, the
sunlight is craving warmth,,,nature had a good system of allowing an
animal to die when the time was right, They did
I care about you, and really want you to know I say this with every bit of
compassion and care I can. I know you are suffering and confused, and
desperate. Please know I have Lucy's well-being at heart when I say this to
you...
No, you are absolutely WRONG! Oh please do NOT attempt home
I know that about purring. But she only purrs when we pet her, not
otherwise, so I do think that means she likes us petting her.
In a message dated 2/4/2007 5:07:05 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL
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writes:
I just don't know Michelle were she my cat, I would have euth'd
I do not often get offended by this list, and I know I am in a bad state to
begin with. But I really take offense at this thing people always say, which
at least one of you has said to me in my questioning what to do about
euthanasia, that I need to ask if I am keeping her here for me or for
Apropos to what I just wrote is an email I got from my old chiropractor, a
healer, who I asked the same question of.
Michelle
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Hi MIchelle,
I am so sorry to hear about your sadness.
The question you are asking, I am afraid, isn't an easy one to answer. I will
do my
Michelle,
Please don't cut us off because you are offended by a response. In my
heart, I truly believe that response wasn't meant to hurt you. We all need
friends who are direct and who tell us exactly what they think - even if it
is painful - and not just to tell us what they think we want to
Charity Bart are in my thoughts and prayers. I think what you are doing
is wonderful, Patti. Please keep us updated.
Renee
Suffering is a sacred process?
Ok, just my opinion, but what a load of crap! I hope that person (pam) had
truly suffered in her past, so she will be justified/qualified in advocating
suffering in others! How the HELL does she know that suffering in a terminal
illness is a pathway to spiritual
Since I last wrote, Lucy got up, climbed all 14 stairs to the upstairs, ate
half a jar of baby food and a couple pieces of dry food, curled up on a cat
bed, and is purring away as Gray pets her. When Gray poured the dry food for
Patches, Lucy literally got up and ran over to it, trying to
Oh Michelle, I'm so sorry. I can't even imagine how awful it must be to
be in the middle of this torment and feel like you have to stay away
from the usual support of the list because we've hurt you even more.
I'm so upset, I've been so upset right along side you throughout this.
All I want
Michelle, Please don't leave this list. You have helped me and so many others
with our fur babies. We need your calm loving caring answers that you have
always been ready to give. I for one have the same feeling that if one of my
babies is eating and still showing a desire to go on I will do
Michelle,
You and Lucy are still in my prayers. I'm sorry you're upset by something
that's been said. I just skipped about 900 messages because I was worried when
I saw you said unsubscribe and thought you had lost Lucy. Please reconsider.
You are in a terrible place right now and you
Hi Paolo,
I hope you've got this straightened out by now, but you should be able to
just create a whole new yahoo address and rejoin the group. You and Rompi are
in my prayers.
tonya
Paolo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sorry for not having written before, yesterday I was just too
Oh Michelle PLEASE do not leave us.You have been here for me so many times and
it just would not be the same without you here.Phaewryn was not trying to hurt
you and maybe she misunderstood what you were saying.That is so easy to do
while communicating this way.PLEASE reconsider.
Sherry
Thank you Nina for saying the right thing again. I guess I kind of panicked
when Michelle said she was leaving the list. She has always been so kind and
helpful . You are right if she needs time away from us to focus on Lucy . We
will still be here for her if she needs us. I pray that she will
You can't second guess yourself about if you'd known sooner, etc It is a
terrible thing that we have to try to judge the quality of life or amount of
pain when we can't just 'ask'. I will say that when I am nauseous I like it to
be cool. That might be part of her breathing heavily.
Chris,
I'm so sorry about Mylo.
tonya
Chris Ramzy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mylo went to the specialist yesterday. The doctor was very nice and seemed
very educated on FeLV. He said that Mylo's kidney's are very inflamed, and
that he believe's that Mylo has lymphoma and possibly
Has Lucy passed?
t
Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Michelle has unsubscribed the list -- Michelled called me and I had a
long conversation this afternoon, I have not read Michell's posting or
other's postings regarding the topic.
I feel very strongly that we are here to support
No, at least I haven't heard that. I think when Hideyo typed
previous, she meant precious.
catatonya wrote:
Has Lucy passed?
t
*/Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote:
Michelle has unsubscribed the list -- Michelled called me and I had a
long conversation this afternoon, I
Patti,
Congratulations on just getting through that night! I hope Bart checks out
ok with the vet, and the bloating goes away. You are all in my prayers. Be
CAREFUL out in the snow and ice. I hope the cold weather breaks soon. I don't
remember where you live. But it sounds like the
Please don't go Michelle, we all value your knowledge and input and want to be
able to help you (whether by advice or just being an ear to hear) as you have
helped so many of us. You having Gray there to be a 2nd pair of eyes is a
blessing for YOU. Surely, you trust him to tell you if he
Tonya,
thank you for your thoughts. Yes, thanks to the advices from you all
I succeeded in subscribing to the Feline Lymphoma and Feline Cancer
groups. It results that I am no longer subscribed to Feline Anemia (!)
although I regularly receive all the posts from that group (!).
I am just afraid
Patti, you are an inspiration and an excellent example of mind over matter (or
medicine). I agree w/MC about the recliner, that's awesome:)
BTW, anyone want to borrow Bandit?
Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito
My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely
Patty, You are so amazing and strong.
Patty, Bart Charity are blessed to have you so are we. You are such an
inspiration. Please keep us up on there progress. I'm so happy they are out of
the cold. Sheila
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