Re: [Felvtalk] Help- need advice on fleas

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I use advantage. FeLV cats are very prone to Hemobartonella, which will cause 
severe anemia & comes from fleas. ALL my cats get Advantage every month & I 
have never had a problem. Fleas also cause tape worms which will deprive the 
cat of nutrients.
Beth
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Hi all...I suspect Spanky may have fleas. I found some flea dirt looking dust 
and a lump under his chin and also have been seeing little red bugs around but 
no fleas when I comb him. Some were flying so I thought, they couldn't be 
fleas.  I also have a dog and it has been unseasonably warm here in WI this 
week.   

Please let me know how you treat an felv kitty with a weak immune system for 
fleas.  I am terrified at the prospect of having to spray my home and treat 
him.  He used to get one of the topicals years ago but vet didn't think that 
would be good for him now.  We have a vet appt tomorrow for ltci injection and 
bloodwork.   I am taking some of the sample bugs I collected for 
identification.  

Thanks for your help, Stacy and Spanky
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[Felvtalk] Help- need advice on fleas

[Szacherdroid]

Hi all...I suspect Spanky may have fleas. I found some flea dirt looking dust 
and a lump under his chin and also have been seeing little red bugs around but 
no fleas when I comb him. Some were flying so I thought, they couldn't be 
fleas.  I also have a dog and it has been unseasonably warm here in WI this 
week.   

Please let me know how you treat an felv kitty with a weak immune system for 
fleas.  I am terrified at the prospect of having to spray my home and treat 
him.  He used to get one of the topicals years ago but vet didn't think that 
would be good for him now.  We have a vet appt tomorrow for ltci injection and 
bloodwork.   I am taking some of the sample bugs I collected for 
identification.  

Thanks for your help, Stacy and Spanky
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Re: [Felvtalk] Aggie Introduction Part 2

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Andy, 

What a great introduction to the wonderful Aggie! Glad that she & Crookshanks 
are accepting the baby so well. When my daughter was born, my cat Chaucer gave 
her the cold shoulder for months. Didn't go into her room, pretended all the 
baby paraphernalia was invisible, a definite "if I don't acknowledge its 
presence, it'll just go away" attitude. But during their 12 years together, my 
daughter turned out to be the person Chaucer loved best.

I was extremely interested in Aggie's history, especially your experience with 
treatments like LTCI and Interferon. Since there are so few clinical trials & 
studies to go by, shared first hand experiences are invaluable. Thank you so 
much for taking the time to write everything up.

Will look for your posts about your continuing journey with Aggie...

Kris B.





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Sent: Mon, October 11, 2010 2:02:07 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Aggie Introduction Part 2




Our story continues with Aggie introduction, part 2..

At this point, I would have chalked the seizure up to the mirtaziprine if it 
wasn't for the fact that the day before we gave her the drug, Aggie was meowing 
very loudly and had thrown up a bit of a clear liquid.  While my wife didn't 
see 
it, she wasn't covered in drool and wasn't disoriented like after the two known 
seizures.  So, we really don't know what happened, but suspect it was a milder 
seizure type incident, and the mirtaziprine made everything worse.  My vet, nor 
the vet I consulted with at UC Davis, thinks the mirtaziprine was the major 
cause, though they did admit that it might be what triggered the grand mal, and 
the later, smaller seizure.  So, to be on the safe side, she has been on 
phenobarbitol for about a month now, with no further seizures (my wife is home 
with our 3 month old baby, so she would know).  The first three weeks on it 
were 
rough--sluggish, lots of sleeping, and incoordinated with weakness in her hind 
legs.  (Cat, not the wife, for those of you still reading!)  As of now, she is 
pretty much back to normal, with just a little residual weakness.  Nowhere near 
where it was, though.

At present, still getting interferon every day, reloaded her with LTCI weekly 
for three weeks, and now moving back to what had become the sweet spot of every 
2 weeks (next shot is this Saturday) and hoping for the best.  When we next 
test 
her blood in a few weeks, we might see if we can screen for toxoplasmosis and 
cryptococcus (I know I misspelled this!) but didn’t have the cash to do it the 
first time around.  Another possibility is that she might have been exposed to 
insecticide, as we had the outside of our home sprayed for wasps a month or so 
ago.  The day of the first "incident" it had rained, and she was sitting for 
most of the day at the screen door looking out into the yard.  She was sitting 
over the door jam (but still behind the screen, mere inches from an area that 
had been heavily sprayed, as it was a problem area, and the recent rain could 
have easily washed some of the toxins through the screen for her to breathe or 
even lick.  


Could have gotten to her paws, and she could have licked them--I don't know.  
Other possibilities are of course, a brain tumor, the FELV crossing the blood 
brain barrier, lymphoma of the gut that had metastatized (probably misspelled 
this one too) into her brain but avoided the lungs and hasn’t swelled up her 
lymph nodes enough that the vet can feel, or the aforementioned poisoning, 
crypto, and toxoplasmosis.   Our other cat, who has lived with us for five 
years 
(and is FELV negative but vaccinated) was a cat that settled on the front porch 
of the house we had just moved into.  So, it is possible he brought it in, but 
her immune system was strong enough to deal with it for 5 years.

At this point, Aggie seems happy, weight is alright, appetite is good, and her 
zest for life is apparent.  She doesn't mind being around the baby at all, and 
we are trying to make every day a party for as long as we have her.  She is the 
protypical cat, in that she is alternatingly spunky, sweet, and antisocial and 
loves to chase my wife's hair clips all over the house.  She'll ignore almost 
every other toy, but not those hair bands.


Our FELV negative boy--Crookshanks, is the sweetest animal known to humanity.  
He loves the baby, and (supervised of course) will sit with her and 
occasionally 
nuzzle her feet.  He will sit on the couch above me as I hold the baby, and 
groom my head with his tongue.  He does the same to my wife, if he isn’t in her 
lap.  He would love to groom the baby too, but that is a bit much!  


So—that is one long introduction!  In all likelihood, we are on the downhill 
slope of our time together, but who knows—she is a spunky girl and we’ve been 
lucky to have her for so long.  I’ll keep you posted as we go through the rest 
of our journey together.  Even though we never met, all of you have 

Re: [Felvtalk] Add my Chloe (FELV) to the Bridge list

[Emeraldkittee]

Gloria,
 
We are so sorry to hear of Chloe's passing.  How many happy reunions she will 
have with her siblings now;  and how many angels with tails you have watching 
over you.  
 
Our hearts are heavy with yours.  Bless Chloe.
 
Shannon and Whimsy

--- On Mon, 10/11/10, Gloria B. Lane  wrote:


From: Gloria B. Lane 
Subject: [Felvtalk] Add my Chloe (FELV) to the Bridge list
To: "Feline Leukemia" 
Date: Monday, October 11, 2010, 6:53 PM


My Chloe died today - she's a gray and white FELV kitty, a lovely and sweet 
kitty.  I got her in Sept 2005, from a lady in Oklahoma named Jennifer.  
Jennifer had been a vet tech, and had FELV cats, but when her baby developed 
serious problems and she needed to pass her specia needs cats on to someone 
else, and I took them.

One by one they have passed on.  Chloe was the last - she was 15 or 16, claws 
had grown out, and she was having some kidney problems.  Fall is so dry, it 
seems to be hard on kidney cats.

Chloe was a sweetie and had a soft and gentle passing.  I kept covering her and 
trying to keep her hydrated and warm, but she said no mom, I don't want the 
cover on me. Sleep soft sweet Chloe.

Gloria

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Re: [Felvtalk] Add my Chloe (FELV) to the Bridge list

[Sharyl]

Gloria, what a loving tribute for Chloe.  Thank you for taking her and her 
friends in and caring for them.  Sounds like she had a great life with you.  We 
love them, care for them and in the end let them go.  I will light a candle for 
both of you tonight.
Sharyl

--- On Mon, 10/11/10, Gloria B. Lane  wrote:

> From: Gloria B. Lane 
> Subject: [Felvtalk] Add my Chloe (FELV) to the Bridge list
> To: "Feline Leukemia" 
> Date: Monday, October 11, 2010, 7:53 PM
> My Chloe died today - she's a gray
> and white FELV kitty, a lovely and sweet kitty.  I got
> her in Sept 2005, from a lady in Oklahoma named
> Jennifer.  Jennifer had been a vet tech, and had FELV
> cats, but when her baby developed serious problems and she
> needed to pass her specia needs cats on to someone else, and
> I took them.
> 
> One by one they have passed on.  Chloe was the last -
> she was 15 or 16, claws had grown out, and she was having
> some kidney problems.  Fall is so dry, it seems to be
> hard on kidney cats.
> 
> Chloe was a sweetie and had a soft and gentle
> passing.  I kept covering her and trying to keep her
> hydrated and warm, but she said no mom, I don't want the
> cover on me. Sleep soft sweet Chloe.
> 
> Gloria
> 
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Re: [Felvtalk] L-Lysine Reaction

[Laurieskatz]

I sprinkle the viralys powder on canned food.
It seems finer consistency than crushed L Lysine tablets.

"Love animals: God has given them the rudiments of thought and joy
untroubled. Do not trouble their joy, don't harass them, don't deprive them
of their happiness, don't work against God's intent. Man, do not pride
yourself on superiority to animals; they are without sin, and you, with your
greatness, defile the earth by your appearance on it, and leave the traces
of your foulness after you - alas, it is true of almost every one of
us!"~Fyodor Dostoyevsky



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I use the Viralys too. It is easy to syringe & give. I use for my cat with
Stomatitis.
Beth
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HI, It might have been to much,or not mixed enough. My vet has a
tube,Varalys,oral gel for cats.Each 1.25 ml contains 250mg of L-lysineHCI in
a highly palatable base. I copied that from the tube.CAthy--- On Mon,
10/11/10, Natalie  wrote:


From: Natalie 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] L-Lysine Reaction
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Monday, October 11, 2010, 12:47 PM


I believe that L-Lysine is available in liquid form.maybe that would
work better?

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To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] L-Lysine Reaction

Have been reading lately on here about L-Lysine for the cat...I crushed a
tablet very well (I have a mortar and pestle from when my mom was here and
we had to crush her meds) and added it to Lucky's food.  Poor guy vomited it
right up -- I mean, back into the feed dishes!
So now I don't know exactly what to do...maybe decrease to half a tab (about
250 mg)?
Anyone else had a cat with a bad reaction to L-Lysine?  Ideas?
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Re: [Felvtalk] Add my Chloe (FELV) to the Bridge list

[Sally Davis]

Bye sweet Chloe. Thanks you Gloria for taking her and the others into your
life.

Sally

On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 7:53 PM, Gloria B. Lane wrote:

> My Chloe died today - she's a gray and white FELV kitty, a lovely and sweet
> kitty.  I got her in Sept 2005, from a lady in Oklahoma named Jennifer.
>  Jennifer had been a vet tech, and had FELV cats, but when her baby
> developed serious problems and she needed to pass her specia needs cats on
> to someone else, and I took them.
>
> One by one they have passed on.  Chloe was the last - she was 15 or 16,
> claws had grown out, and she was having some kidney problems.  Fall is so
> dry, it seems to be hard on kidney cats.
>
> Chloe was a sweetie and had a soft and gentle passing.  I kept covering her
> and trying to keep her hydrated and warm, but she said no mom, I don't want
> the cover on me. Sleep soft sweet Chloe.
>
> Gloria
>
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Re: [Felvtalk] L-Lysine Reaction

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I use the Viralys too. It is easy to syringe & give. I use for my cat with 
Stomatitis.
Beth
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Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 11:03:49 
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Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] L-Lysine Reaction

HI, It might have been to much,or not mixed enough. My vet has a 
tube,Varalys,oral gel for cats.Each 1.25 ml contains 250mg of L-lysineHCI in a 
highly palatable base. I copied that from the tube.CAthy--- On Mon, 10/11/10, 
Natalie  wrote:


From: Natalie 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] L-Lysine Reaction
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Monday, October 11, 2010, 12:47 PM


I believe that L-Lysine is available in liquid form.maybe that would
work better?

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Bonnie Hogue
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 11:50 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] L-Lysine Reaction

Have been reading lately on here about L-Lysine for the cat...I crushed a
tablet very well (I have a mortar and pestle from when my mom was here and
we had to crush her meds) and added it to Lucky's food.  Poor guy vomited it
right up -- I mean, back into the feed dishes!
So now I don't know exactly what to do...maybe decrease to half a tab (about
250 mg)?
Anyone else had a cat with a bad reaction to L-Lysine?  Ideas?
Thanks!
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Re: [Felvtalk] Add my Chloe (FELV) to the Bridge list

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Chloe had a good number of years & lots of love with you. Bless you & Chloe, 
Gloria.
Beth
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Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 18:53:21 
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Subject: [Felvtalk] Add my Chloe (FELV) to the Bridge list

My Chloe died today - she's a gray and white FELV kitty, a lovely and  
sweet kitty.  I got her in Sept 2005, from a lady in Oklahoma named  
Jennifer.  Jennifer had been a vet tech, and had FELV cats, but when  
her baby developed serious problems and she needed to pass her specia  
needs cats on to someone else, and I took them.

One by one they have passed on.  Chloe was the last - she was 15 or  
16, claws had grown out, and she was having some kidney problems.   
Fall is so dry, it seems to be hard on kidney cats.

Chloe was a sweetie and had a soft and gentle passing.  I kept  
covering her and trying to keep her hydrated and warm, but she said no  
mom, I don't want the cover on me. Sleep soft sweet Chloe.

Gloria

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Re: [Felvtalk] Add my Chloe (FELV) to the Bridge list

[Hotmail Junk]

My heart hurts for you! My prayers are with you!!

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 11, 2010, at 4:53 PM, "Gloria B. Lane"  wrote:

> My Chloe died today - she's a gray and white FELV kitty, a lovely and sweet 
> kitty.  I got her in Sept 2005, from a lady in Oklahoma named Jennifer.  
> Jennifer had been a vet tech, and had FELV cats, but when her baby developed 
> serious problems and she needed to pass her specia needs cats on to someone 
> else, and I took them.
> 
> One by one they have passed on.  Chloe was the last - she was 15 or 16, claws 
> had grown out, and she was having some kidney problems.  Fall is so dry, it 
> seems to be hard on kidney cats.
> 
> Chloe was a sweetie and had a soft and gentle passing.  I kept covering her 
> and trying to keep her hydrated and warm, but she said no mom, I don't want 
> the cover on me. Sleep soft sweet Chloe.
> 
> Gloria
> 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Add my Chloe (FELV) to the Bridge list

[Gloria B. Lane]

Thank you so much, Sara, that's very special.

Gloria

On Oct 11, 2010, at 6:58 PM, Sara Kasteleyn wrote:

Gloria, your loving tribute to Chloe has brought tears to my eyes.   
Bless
you for taking such good care of this sweet girl.  We will light a  
candle

tonight to light her way, and to honor your love for her.

Sara

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Lane

Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 4:53 PM
To: Feline Leukemia
Subject: [Felvtalk] Add my Chloe (FELV) to the Bridge list

My Chloe died today - she's a gray and white FELV kitty, a lovely and
sweet kitty.  I got her in Sept 2005, from a lady in Oklahoma named
Jennifer.  Jennifer had been a vet tech, and had FELV cats, but when
her baby developed serious problems and she needed to pass her specia
needs cats on to someone else, and I took them.

One by one they have passed on.  Chloe was the last - she was 15 or
16, claws had grown out, and she was having some kidney problems.
Fall is so dry, it seems to be hard on kidney cats.

Chloe was a sweetie and had a soft and gentle passing.  I kept
covering her and trying to keep her hydrated and warm, but she said no
mom, I don't want the cover on me. Sleep soft sweet Chloe.

Gloria

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Re: [Felvtalk] Add my Chloe (FELV) to the Bridge list

[Sara Kasteleyn]

Gloria, your loving tribute to Chloe has brought tears to my eyes.  Bless
you for taking such good care of this sweet girl.  We will light a candle
tonight to light her way, and to honor your love for her.

Sara

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Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 4:53 PM
To: Feline Leukemia
Subject: [Felvtalk] Add my Chloe (FELV) to the Bridge list

My Chloe died today - she's a gray and white FELV kitty, a lovely and  
sweet kitty.  I got her in Sept 2005, from a lady in Oklahoma named  
Jennifer.  Jennifer had been a vet tech, and had FELV cats, but when  
her baby developed serious problems and she needed to pass her specia  
needs cats on to someone else, and I took them.

One by one they have passed on.  Chloe was the last - she was 15 or  
16, claws had grown out, and she was having some kidney problems.   
Fall is so dry, it seems to be hard on kidney cats.

Chloe was a sweetie and had a soft and gentle passing.  I kept  
covering her and trying to keep her hydrated and warm, but she said no  
mom, I don't want the cover on me. Sleep soft sweet Chloe.

Gloria

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[Felvtalk] Add my Chloe (FELV) to the Bridge list

[Gloria B. Lane]

My Chloe died today - she's a gray and white FELV kitty, a lovely and  
sweet kitty.  I got her in Sept 2005, from a lady in Oklahoma named  
Jennifer.  Jennifer had been a vet tech, and had FELV cats, but when  
her baby developed serious problems and she needed to pass her specia  
needs cats on to someone else, and I took them.


One by one they have passed on.  Chloe was the last - she was 15 or  
16, claws had grown out, and she was having some kidney problems.   
Fall is so dry, it seems to be hard on kidney cats.


Chloe was a sweetie and had a soft and gentle passing.  I kept  
covering her and trying to keep her hydrated and warm, but she said no  
mom, I don't want the cover on me. Sleep soft sweet Chloe.


Gloria

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Re: [Felvtalk] L-Lysine Reaction

[Heather]

I just bought Lysine treats from my vet, I had heard some cats hated them
but have had pretty good luck so far--though they need to eat many so might
get tired of them quickly, and, they are expensive, $20 a pouch.

On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 3:31 PM, Sharyl  wrote:

> Bonnie, I don't know what buffers are used with the tablets.  I buy the
> pure L-lysine powder from www.iHerbs.com .  That
> way I don't have to worry about reactions to buffering agents.  It comes in
> a 1 lb jar.  I use 1/4 tsp (250 mg) per qt. of water or per one 5.5 oz can
> of food.
> Sharyl
>
> --- On Mon, 10/11/10, Bonnie Hogue  wrote:
>
> > From: Bonnie Hogue 
> > Subject: [Felvtalk] L-Lysine Reaction
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Date: Monday, October 11, 2010, 11:50 AM
>  > Have been reading lately on here
> > about L-Lysine for the cat...I crushed a tablet very well (I
> > have a mortar and pestle from when my mom was here and we
> > had to crush her meds) and added it to Lucky's food.
> > Poor guy vomited it right up -- I mean, back into the feed
> > dishes!
> > So now I don't know exactly what to do...maybe decrease to
> > half a tab (about 250 mg)?
> > Anyone else had a cat with a bad reaction to
> > L-Lysine?  Ideas?
> > Thanks!
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Re: [Felvtalk] L-Lysine Reaction

[Sharyl]

Bonnie, I don't know what buffers are used with the tablets.  I buy the pure 
L-lysine powder from www.iHerbs.com.  That way I don't have to worry about 
reactions to buffering agents.  It comes in a 1 lb jar.  I use 1/4 tsp (250 mg) 
per qt. of water or per one 5.5 oz can of food.
Sharyl  

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> From: Bonnie Hogue 
> Subject: [Felvtalk] L-Lysine Reaction
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Date: Monday, October 11, 2010, 11:50 AM
> Have been reading lately on here
> about L-Lysine for the cat...I crushed a tablet very well (I
> have a mortar and pestle from when my mom was here and we
> had to crush her meds) and added it to Lucky's food. 
> Poor guy vomited it right up -- I mean, back into the feed
> dishes!
> So now I don't know exactly what to do...maybe decrease to
> half a tab (about 250 mg)?
> Anyone else had a cat with a bad reaction to
> L-Lysine?  Ideas?
> Thanks!
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Re: [Felvtalk] Aggie Introduction Part 2

[Edna Taylor]

Andy,
 
What a wonderful story and a very lucky kitty (both of them).  Sure wish there 
were more folks like y'all in the world.  
 
I have a Feluk positive kitty with a neurological disorder ( feline cerebellar 
hyposplasia - he wobbles a bit) that we just rescued and I need to find a home 
for him.  S, if anyone knows someone in Texas who might want to adopt, 
let me know :)

Edna
 
> From: oxjake...@hotmail.com
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 18:02:07 +
> Subject: [Felvtalk] Aggie Introduction Part 2
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Our story continues with Aggie introduction, part 2..
> 
> At this point, I would have chalked the seizure up to the mirtaziprine if it 
> wasn't for the fact that the day before we gave her the drug, Aggie was 
> meowing very loudly and had thrown up a bit of a clear liquid. While my wife 
> didn't see it, she wasn't covered in drool and wasn't disoriented like after 
> the two known seizures. So, we really don't know what happened, but suspect 
> it was a milder seizure type incident, and the mirtaziprine made everything 
> worse. My vet, nor the vet I consulted with at UC Davis, thinks the 
> mirtaziprine was the major cause, though they did admit that it might be what 
> triggered the grand mal, and the later, smaller seizure. So, to be on the 
> safe side, she has been on phenobarbitol for about a month now, with no 
> further seizures (my wife is home with our 3 month old baby, so she would 
> know). The first three weeks on it were rough--sluggish, lots of sleeping, 
> and incoordinated with weakness in her hind legs. (Cat, not the wife, for 
> those of you still reading!) As of now, she is pretty much back to normal, 
> with just a little residual weakness. Nowhere near where it was, though.
> 
> At present, still getting interferon every day, reloaded her with LTCI weekly 
> for three weeks, and now moving back to what had become the sweet spot of 
> every 2 weeks (next shot is this Saturday) and hoping for the best. When we 
> next test her blood in a few weeks, we might see if we can screen for 
> toxoplasmosis and cryptococcus (I know I misspelled this!) but didn’t have 
> the cash to do it the first time around. Another possibility is that she 
> might have been exposed to insecticide, as we had the outside of our home 
> sprayed for wasps a month or so ago. The day of the first "incident" it had 
> rained, and she was sitting for most of the day at the screen door looking 
> out into the yard. She was sitting over the door jam (but still behind the 
> screen, mere inches from an area that had been heavily sprayed, as it was a 
> problem area, and the recent rain could have easily washed some of the toxins 
> through the screen for her to breathe or even lick. 
> 
> Could have gotten to her paws, and she could have licked them--I don't know. 
> Other possibilities are of course, a brain tumor, the FELV crossing the blood 
> brain barrier, lymphoma of the gut that had metastatized (probably misspelled 
> this one too) into her brain but avoided the lungs and hasn’t swelled up her 
> lymph nodes enough that the vet can feel, or the aforementioned poisoning, 
> crypto, and toxoplasmosis. Our other cat, who has lived with us for five 
> years (and is FELV negative but vaccinated) was a cat that settled on the 
> front porch of the house we had just moved into. So, it is possible he 
> brought it in, but her immune system was strong enough to deal with it for 5 
> years.
> 
> At this point, Aggie seems happy, weight is alright, appetite is good, and 
> her zest for life is apparent. She doesn't mind being around the baby at all, 
> and we are trying to make every day a party for as long as we have her. She 
> is the protypical cat, in that she is alternatingly spunky, sweet, and 
> antisocial and loves to chase my wife's hair clips all over the house. She'll 
> ignore almost every other toy, but not those hair bands. 
> 
> Our FELV negative boy--Crookshanks, is the sweetest animal known to humanity. 
> He loves the baby, and (supervised of course) will sit with her and 
> occasionally nuzzle her feet. He will sit on the couch above me as I hold the 
> baby, and groom my head with his tongue. He does the same to my wife, if he 
> isn’t in her lap. He would love to groom the baby too, but that is a bit 
> much! 
> 
> So—that is one long introduction! In all likelihood, we are on the downhill 
> slope of our time together, but who knows—she is a spunky girl and we’ve been 
> lucky to have her for so long. I’ll keep you posted as we go through the rest 
> of our journey together. Even though we never met, all of you have given me 
> so much hope and inspiration. To those of you who have lost cats, my deepest 
> condolences--and know that I will continue to send good thoughts and 
> purrayers, as Alice likes to say, your way. 
> 
> Peace,
> Andy 
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Re: [Felvtalk] L-Lysine Reaction

[Natalie]

http://www.goodsearch.com/search.aspx?keywords=L-Lysine+-+liquid+form - on
this, I see that Puritan and Solgar among others, carry the liquid form of
lysine.

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of CATHERINE DIDONNA
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 2:04 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] L-Lysine Reaction

HI, It might have been to much,or not mixed enough. My vet has a
tube,Varalys,oral gel for cats.Each 1.25 ml contains 250mg of L-lysineHCI in
a highly palatable base. I copied that from the tube.CAthy--- On Mon,
10/11/10, Natalie  wrote:


From: Natalie 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] L-Lysine Reaction
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Monday, October 11, 2010, 12:47 PM


I believe that L-Lysine is available in liquid form.maybe that would
work better?

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Bonnie Hogue
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 11:50 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] L-Lysine Reaction

Have been reading lately on here about L-Lysine for the cat...I crushed a
tablet very well (I have a mortar and pestle from when my mom was here and
we had to crush her meds) and added it to Lucky's food.  Poor guy vomited it
right up -- I mean, back into the feed dishes!
So now I don't know exactly what to do...maybe decrease to half a tab (about
250 mg)?
Anyone else had a cat with a bad reaction to L-Lysine?  Ideas?
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Re: [Felvtalk] L-Lysine Reaction

[CATHERINE DIDONNA]

HI, It might have been to much,or not mixed enough. My vet has a 
tube,Varalys,oral gel for cats.Each 1.25 ml contains 250mg of L-lysineHCI in a 
highly palatable base. I copied that from the tube.CAthy--- On Mon, 10/11/10, 
Natalie  wrote:


From: Natalie 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] L-Lysine Reaction
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Monday, October 11, 2010, 12:47 PM


I believe that L-Lysine is available in liquid form.maybe that would
work better?

-Original Message-
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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Bonnie Hogue
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 11:50 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] L-Lysine Reaction

Have been reading lately on here about L-Lysine for the cat...I crushed a
tablet very well (I have a mortar and pestle from when my mom was here and
we had to crush her meds) and added it to Lucky's food.  Poor guy vomited it
right up -- I mean, back into the feed dishes!
So now I don't know exactly what to do...maybe decrease to half a tab (about
250 mg)?
Anyone else had a cat with a bad reaction to L-Lysine?  Ideas?
Thanks!
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[Felvtalk] Aggie Introduction Part 2

[Andy Domek]

Our story continues with Aggie introduction, part 2..
 
At this point, I would have chalked the seizure up to the mirtaziprine if it 
wasn't for the fact that the day before we gave her the drug, Aggie was meowing 
very loudly and had thrown up a bit of a clear liquid.  While my wife didn't 
see it, she wasn't covered in drool and wasn't disoriented like after the two 
known seizures.  So, we really don't know what happened, but suspect it was a 
milder seizure type incident, and the mirtaziprine made everything worse.  My 
vet, nor the vet I consulted with at UC Davis, thinks the mirtaziprine was the 
major cause, though they did admit that it might be what triggered the grand 
mal, and the later, smaller seizure.  So, to be on the safe side, she has been 
on phenobarbitol for about a month now, with no further seizures (my wife is 
home with our 3 month old baby, so she would know).  The first three weeks on 
it were rough--sluggish, lots of sleeping, and incoordinated with weakness in 
her hind legs.  (Cat, not the wife, for those of you still reading!)  As of 
now, she is pretty much back to normal, with just a little residual weakness.  
Nowhere near where it was, though.
 
At present, still getting interferon every day, reloaded her with LTCI weekly 
for three weeks, and now moving back to what had become the sweet spot of every 
2 weeks (next shot is this Saturday) and hoping for the best.  When we next 
test her blood in a few weeks, we might see if we can screen for toxoplasmosis 
and cryptococcus (I know I misspelled this!) but didn’t have the cash to do it 
the first time around.  Another possibility is that she might have been exposed 
to insecticide, as we had the outside of our home sprayed for wasps a month or 
so ago.  The day of the first "incident" it had rained, and she was sitting for 
most of the day at the screen door looking out into the yard.  She was sitting 
over the door jam (but still behind the screen, mere inches from an area that 
had been heavily sprayed, as it was a problem area, and the recent rain could 
have easily washed some of the toxins through the screen for her to breathe or 
even lick.  
 
Could have gotten to her paws, and she could have licked them--I don't know.  
Other possibilities are of course, a brain tumor, the FELV crossing the blood 
brain barrier, lymphoma of the gut that had metastatized (probably misspelled 
this one too) into her brain but avoided the lungs and hasn’t swelled up her 
lymph nodes enough that the vet can feel, or the aforementioned poisoning, 
crypto, and toxoplasmosis.   Our other cat, who has lived with us for five 
years (and is FELV negative but vaccinated) was a cat that settled on the front 
porch of the house we had just moved into.  So, it is possible he brought it 
in, but her immune system was strong enough to deal with it for 5 years.
 
At this point, Aggie seems happy, weight is alright, appetite is good, and her 
zest for life is apparent.  She doesn't mind being around the baby at all, and 
we are trying to make every day a party for as long as we have her.  She is the 
protypical cat, in that she is alternatingly spunky, sweet, and antisocial and 
loves to chase my wife's hair clips all over the house.  She'll ignore almost 
every other toy, but not those hair bands.
 
Our FELV negative boy--Crookshanks, is the sweetest animal known to humanity.  
He loves the baby, and (supervised of course) will sit with her and 
occasionally nuzzle her feet.  He will sit on the couch above me as I hold the 
baby, and groom my head with his tongue.  He does the same to my wife, if he 
isn’t in her lap.  He would love to groom the baby too, but that is a bit much! 
  
 
So—that is one long introduction!  In all likelihood, we are on the downhill 
slope of our time together, but who knows—she is a spunky girl and we’ve been 
lucky to have her for so long.  I’ll keep you posted as we go through the rest 
of our journey together.  Even though we never met, all of you have given me so 
much hope and inspiration.  To those of you who have lost cats, my deepest 
condolences--and know that I will continue to send good thoughts and purrayers, 
as Alice likes to say, your way.  
 
Peace,
Andy
  
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[Felvtalk] Aggie Introduction Part 1

[Andy Domek]

This is the first of two posts--my wordy self had originally tried to post one 
long email, but I was over the limit.  So, I thought it was a good idea to 
break it up. Without further ado--here is part 1--part 2 is being posted 
momentarily.  
 
 
Hi all,
 
I've been following for awhile, but never actually joined.  So, first and 
foremost--thank you for all of your wonderful information and kindness you show 
to each other on a daily basis.  It is truly inspiring.  Prepare thyselves for 
a VERY long email  
 
Second, while I am new to the list, I am not new to FELV as I've had a 
wonderful FELV + kitty (Aggie) that my wife and I raised from a kitten since 
2004.  We found her and her siblings, less than a year after we got married, 
under the dumpster of the apartment complex where we used to live.  We got them 
cleaned up, adopted out, and then the one person who adopted two of them called 
to let us know that they were going to have one of them put down due to testing 
positive for FELV.  So, despite not being a "cat" person--as I've always had 
dogs and birds, we became a cat family.  So, I've been living with the disease, 
knowing full well what it could do, for over 6 years now.  She's tested 
positive throughout the years on Elisa and IFA on multiple occasions.
 
Aggie Lucky Trouble has given us so much joy since day one.   I have loved 
every minute of having her in my life—within ten minutes of her being “mine” 
she had me wrapped around her little paw and she became the matriarch of a long 
line of cats that I’m sure my family will have throughout the years. 
For the first 5 years of Aggie's life, she took daily Alpha Interferon from a 
dropper (it is still the highlight of her day--she loves the stuff!), went 
to the vet twice a year for wellness checkups and she wasn't sick a day in her 
life.  In the summer of 2009, however, I noticed a bump behind her right ear.  
Long story short, it was an adenocarcinoma of the parotid salivary gland.  Vets 
at UC Davis said it was encapsulated, and they got all the cancer they could 
see, with a very small, but clean margin.  We opted not to do radiation, as we 
didn't want to stress her little system and get the FELV into active mode.  We 
diligently checked for regrowths, had her lungs x-rayed every few months, and 
had bloodwork run a few times a year.  No return of the adenocarcinoma that we 
know of. 
 
Spring of 2010, she's active and playful as normal, but her bloodwork, and 
weight started to decline.  Everything looked good other than WBC 3.8, 
neutrophils 2000, and platelets (est 50-120)were a bit low.  On followup tests, 
the WBC and neutrophils were even a bit lower (3.6 and 1800, respectively).  
So, we went the LTCI route.  After 3 weekly shots, things had declined further 
(WBC 2.8 and Neutrophils 1200), but we had read this would happen initially as 
the stuff killed off the infected cells.
 
Went to every other week on the stuff, and things had improved (WBC 4.0, 
Neutophils 2800, and Platelets 120-Normal--not as worried about platelets as 
she is VERY difficult to get a sample from--it usually takes everyone in the 
office and she gives everybody heck).  Subsequent tests (still at every two 
weeks) and WBC had risen to 4.8, Neutrophils to 3800, and same platelets).  
 
 
 
All was good until a month or so ago, when I noticed her weight was down a bit, 
so I gave her a quarter pill of an appetite stimulant--mirazapine--and a half 
hour later she was seizing (lasted 30 seconds, but it seemed like hours).  This 
was also the time when we tried to stretch her LTCI to every three weeks.  
Rushed her to the e-vet, where she was her normal, wild self--leaping on the 
vet's keyboard and getting in the way.  Didn't run any tests, as the e-vet 
thought it would be less expensive at our regular vet's office.  Two days 
later, she had another, milder seizure--still standing, responsive to her name, 
but drooling and twitching, and contorted.  Lots of loud meows and a bit spacey 
afterword for a few minutes, but back to normal after that.  Told that the 
mirtaziprine will be in the system for at least 72 hours, so it is possible 
that it lowered the threshold for her body to have a seizure.  This would make 
sense, as her last seizure was about 68 hours after her first seizure.  She has 
had no seizures since.  
 
Our regular vet wanted to refer us out to UC Davis, but overall costs for 
diagnostic tests were going to be almost $5000, which we couldn't afford.  So, 
we did a compromise, and our regular vet did a chest x-ray to see if there was 
some sort of systemic cancer, and we ran blood to see if there was something 
there that might indicate a seizure.  The only weird thing was that her 
bloodwork looked great (for her anyway--still 4.8 WBC, and good neutrophils and 
everything else).  Nothing in the lungs either. 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] L-Lysine Reaction

[Bonnie Hogue]

Thanks, Edna.  I'll call the vet.  I am always trying to save a few pennies, 
so I got this at Rite Aide...maybe not the best idea.  Thought the 
ingredients were the same but maybe they buffer it differently for the cat.

Thanks for the suggestion.
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To: 
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 9:53 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] L-Lysine Reaction




I get mine from the vet's office specificaly for pets and it comes in a 
paste.




Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 12:47:40 -0400
From: at...@optonline.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] L-Lysine Reaction

I believe that L-Lysine is available in liquid form.maybe that would
work better?

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Bonnie Hogue
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 11:50 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] L-Lysine Reaction

Have been reading lately on here about L-Lysine for the cat...I crushed a
tablet very well (I have a mortar and pestle from when my mom was here 
and
we had to crush her meds) and added it to Lucky's food. Poor guy vomited 
it

right up -- I mean, back into the feed dishes!
So now I don't know exactly what to do...maybe decrease to half a tab 
(about

250 mg)?
Anyone else had a cat with a bad reaction to L-Lysine? Ideas?
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Re: [Felvtalk] L-Lysine Reaction

[Bonnie Hogue]

Have not seen the liquid; will look for it.
Thanks.
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To: 
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Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] L-Lysine Reaction



I believe that L-Lysine is available in liquid form.maybe that would
work better?

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Bonnie Hogue
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 11:50 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] L-Lysine Reaction

Have been reading lately on here about L-Lysine for the cat...I crushed a
tablet very well (I have a mortar and pestle from when my mom was here and
we had to crush her meds) and added it to Lucky's food.  Poor guy vomited 
it

right up -- I mean, back into the feed dishes!
So now I don't know exactly what to do...maybe decrease to half a tab 
(about

250 mg)?
Anyone else had a cat with a bad reaction to L-Lysine?  Ideas?
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Re: [Felvtalk] L-Lysine Reaction

[Edna Taylor]

I get mine from the vet's office specificaly for pets and it comes in a paste.
 

> Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 12:47:40 -0400
> From: at...@optonline.net
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] L-Lysine Reaction
> 
> I believe that L-Lysine is available in liquid form.maybe that would
> work better?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Bonnie Hogue
> Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 11:50 AM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: [Felvtalk] L-Lysine Reaction
> 
> Have been reading lately on here about L-Lysine for the cat...I crushed a
> tablet very well (I have a mortar and pestle from when my mom was here and
> we had to crush her meds) and added it to Lucky's food. Poor guy vomited it
> right up -- I mean, back into the feed dishes!
> So now I don't know exactly what to do...maybe decrease to half a tab (about
> 250 mg)?
> Anyone else had a cat with a bad reaction to L-Lysine? Ideas?
> Thanks!
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Re: [Felvtalk] L-Lysine Reaction

[Natalie]

I believe that L-Lysine is available in liquid form.maybe that would
work better?

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Bonnie Hogue
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 11:50 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] L-Lysine Reaction

Have been reading lately on here about L-Lysine for the cat...I crushed a
tablet very well (I have a mortar and pestle from when my mom was here and
we had to crush her meds) and added it to Lucky's food.  Poor guy vomited it
right up -- I mean, back into the feed dishes!
So now I don't know exactly what to do...maybe decrease to half a tab (about
250 mg)?
Anyone else had a cat with a bad reaction to L-Lysine?  Ideas?
Thanks!
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[Felvtalk] L-Lysine Reaction

[Bonnie Hogue]

Have been reading lately on here about L-Lysine for the cat...I crushed a 
tablet very well (I have a mortar and pestle from when my mom was here and we 
had to crush her meds) and added it to Lucky's food.  Poor guy vomited it right 
up -- I mean, back into the feed dishes!
So now I don't know exactly what to do...maybe decrease to half a tab (about 
250 mg)?
Anyone else had a cat with a bad reaction to L-Lysine?  Ideas?
Thanks!
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[Felvtalk] Treatments for (possibly) recently infected cat?

[Rachel]

Hi-

A couple weeks ago I posted about a foster cat (Oscar) I took in that tested 
positive on the SNAP test and negative on the IFA test for FeLV.  Prior to the 
SNAP test, I had kept him mostly confined but occasionally let him out 
supervised.  The last time I let him out, he suddenly attacked a nursing foster 
cat I have named Simone.  The fight lasted only about 30 seconds before I broke 
it up, but I was bit in the process by Oscar, so I know he was trying to bite 
Simone.  I examined her then and after Oscar tested positive (about five days 
later) and did not detect any bite marks or puncture wounds.  She tested 
negative, but I've had her confined ever since pending a re-test.  That was 
about three weeks ago and she was tested on Sept. 28, so she was not scheduled 
to be retested for at least a couple more weeks.  


I read that FeLV is not usually infectious until about stage five.  Oscar 
tested 
negative on the IFA so I had hoped that even if he did bite Simone, he was not 
shedding the virus.  Well, Simone has now developed persistent diarrhea the 
past 
week and a half, which I read can be a symptom of the acute phase of infection. 
 
I had her stool tested a week ago for coccidia (which Oscar also had) and they 
did NOT detect coccidia.  I've been feeding her a diet of boiled chicken and 
brown rice/pasta with lots of lysine and vitamins mixed in to boost her immune 
system, but the diarrhea persists.  I have a vet appt. for her this morning to 
have her examined.

My question is if there is anything that can be done for a recently infected 
cat 
to help them fight off the virus?  Also, if Simone is infected with FeLV, the 
chances are likely her kittens will have it as well, no?  She has four 5-week 
old kittens and is surrogate nursing one 3-week old kitten.  None show any 
symptoms and appear to be healthy and robust kitties, however, I read that cats 
infected as kittens are most likely to be viremic and go on to develop the 
disease FeLV.  In that case, my vet recommends euthanization.  There is a 
rescue 
with a shelter local to me that has a room for FeLV+ cats, but they have a 
waiting list four cats deep right now and I don't know how long it would be to 
get in five kittens!  Also, I am told that viremic cats rarely live past 2-3 
years of age.  I'm trying to think positive thoughts, but all the worrying, 
guilt and "what-ifs" is just agonizing.  Your thoughts?


Rachel



  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Another Murphy relapse-now URI

[Sara Kasteleyn]

Never tired of hearing about you and Murphy.  What a spunky little guy...and 
what a loving caretaker!  Best of luck with this latest ick.  Purrrayers coming 
your way.



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From: "Alice Flowers" 
To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" 
Sent: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 13:41:23 -0700 PDT
Subject: [Felvtalk] Another Murphy relapse-now URI

Another Murphy relapse...poor boy is all congested and sneezy with a URI, he 
began with light sneezing earlier this week, I gave him a PennG shot Friday 
night because he had sneezed so much that he was getting bloody droplets. Now 
he's really getting plugged up. I called the vet to see about reducing his 
prednisolone dose because steroids suppress the immune system. He's been on 
Lasix and Pred for 3 weeks since his diagnosis of Lymphoma. We are cutting him 
down to 1/2 from 5mg 2x a day to once a day. I have put some L-Lysine powder 
into gel caps because he will not eat it in his food nor eat the very expensive 
Lysine treats we tried in the past. Seems the Lysine is supposed to help keep 
the herpes virus (viruses in general) from replicating. This flares up every 
time his immune system is low and he ends up with upper respiratory problems. I 
know he's not feeling well because I've waken up with him snuggled with me on 
the bed for the last 2 mornings. He normally doesn't get on the bed, he likes 
to 
sleep by the open slider screen door. I am still optimistic because his 
breathing is still better, hopefully the fluid is still gone from his chest 
area, he was in for his check up a week ago and the vet was impressed with how 
clear his lungs sounded. Maybe he picked up a bug from the exam room-he was 
wandering on the floor, my fault for letting him move around. He's such a 
people 
person, he likes all the people at the vet clinic and wants to see what they 
are 
doing. I hope the Lysine helps soon. They said if he's still congested, we can 
try a mild Afrin nasal decongestant. He's not that bad yet, I don't think, just 
somewhat depressed. Not eating as much, but still eating the AD and all the 
gravy from the fancy feast plus some dry food. I know some may be tired of 
hearing about Murphy, but I think it may help to keep hope alive, he keeps 
bouncing back since the end of July when he became so anemic that by the first 
of August I had to syringe feed him for a few days. He is on Procrit now just 
once a week instead of 3x a week. Please, purrayers help!! Alice
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Re: [Felvtalk] Dostoyevsky

[Lorrie]

On 10-10, Laurieskatz wrote:
> 
> "Love animals: God has given them the rudiments of thought and joy
> untroubled. Do not trouble their joy, don't harass them, don't
> deprive them of their happiness, don't work against God's intent.
> Man, do not pride yourself on superiority to animals; they are
> without sin, and you, with your greatness, defile the earth by your
> appearance on it, and leave the traces of your foulness after you -
> alas, it is true of almost every one of us!"~Fyodor Dostoyevsky
> 
TRUER WORDS WERE NEVER SPOKEN!   Thanks for these words of wisdom! 


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Re: [Felvtalk] Another Murphy relapse-now URI

[nise...@yahoo.com]

Hi Alice & Murphy!

Sorry to hear about the URI and hope he is feeling more comfortable today. 

I learn so much from your Murphy updates and can't tell you how much I 
appreciate your taking the time to post them.

Many thoughts and prayers coming your way from Kris, Max & Avis.





From: Alice Flowers 
To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" 
Sent: Sun, October 10, 2010 4:41:23 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Another Murphy relapse-now URI

Another Murphy relapse...poor boy is all congested and sneezy with a URI, he 
began with light sneezing earlier this week, I gave him a PennG shot Friday 
night because he had sneezed so much that he was getting bloody droplets. Now 
he's really getting plugged up. I called the vet to see about reducing his 
prednisolone dose because steroids suppress the immune system. He's been on 
Lasix and Pred for 3 weeks since his diagnosis of Lymphoma. We are cutting him 
down to 1/2 from 5mg 2x a day to once a day. I have put some L-Lysine powder 
into gel caps because he will not eat it in his food nor eat the very expensive 
Lysine treats we tried in the past. Seems the Lysine is supposed to help keep 
the herpes virus (viruses in general) from replicating. This  flares up every 
time his immune system is low and he ends up with upper respiratory problems. I 
know he's not feeling well because I've waken up with him snuggled with me on 
the bed for the last 2 mornings. He normally doesn't get on the bed, he likes 
to 

sleep by the open slider screen door. I am still optimistic because his 
breathing is still better, hopefully the fluid is still gone from his chest 
area, he was in for his check up a week ago and the vet was impressed with how 
clear his lungs sounded. Maybe he picked up a bug from the exam room-he was 
wandering on the floor, my fault for letting him move around. He's such a 
people 

person, he likes all the people at the vet clinic and wants to see what they 
are 

doing. I hope the Lysine helps soon. They said if he's still congested, we can 
try a mild Afrin nasal decongestant. He's not that bad yet, I don't think, just 
somewhat depressed. Not eating as much, but still eating the AD and all the 
gravy from the fancy feast plus some dry food. I know some may be tired of 
hearing about Murphy, but I think it may help to keep hope alive, he keeps 
bouncing back since the end of July when he became so anemic that by the first 
of August I had to syringe feed him for a few days. He is on Procrit now just 
once a week instead of 3x a week. Please, purrayers help!!  Alice
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