Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated.
I know the costs for felv and fiv cats CAN be high, but why not take a chance for their sake. My 2 felv positive girls are amoung the healthiest of my 7 and none of my other girls and 1 boy have contracted it from them. Plus my vet said that it is possible they were exposesd just before I got them and developed an immunity to it, but that now they will always test positive because of the exposure. Annie was 4 when I got her and Nitnoy was around 1 or 2. They were both highly stressed: Nitnoy had her tail bitten off by a raccoon and Annie lost her person to liver cancer and was islolated in a trailer for 21 days. That would be enough to lower anyone's immunity. Now, all we have to do is keep the negatives up to date on their shots just in case Annie or Nitnoy would bite them. Maureen Olvey wrote: > > That's what I was thinking the IFA costs. That's not bad at all. Definitely > worth it. I live on the outskirts of Atlanta. > > In the old days I think our group would have considered euthanasia but > since me and some other folks have been around they are more open-minded > and don't listen to the vets. I'm kind of a "b" and always speak my > mind about doing research and not trusting everything the vet says. > I've gotten burned that way when I had my Basset Hound. When I first > started with the humane society I was only working with ferals and > strays. I got tired of people telling me that any cat that tested > positive for FIV or FeLV one time should be put down without question. > They were saying that even the tame ones that I found in my feral > colonies should be put down and not taken in and fostered. And oh God, > if one cat had an injury, even just a small injury that got a little > infected, and the cat had FIV some vets said that it would never heal so > I should just go ahead and put the cat down. Even if the cat belonged > to someone else they'd say that. Another lady and I started doing > research and webinars and going to shelter medicine seminars to be more > informed. Funny how a little knowledge can make some big changes. > > Still though, if they are all definitely positive there will be some > challenges. We don't have a lot of foster homes and I can't think of any > that would take these guys in to give them a forever home. I told one lady > her and I would be taking a road trip to find a sanctuary for them. I don't > think there's a place in GA that takes in FeLV cats. I really don't know > what we'll do. I'm probably the only one willing to take them in but I've > got so many cats already that won't be able to be adopted because they've > been exposed to FeLV that I'd rather not take anymore. But, I'm such a > sucker that if it came to it I'd end up taking them versus putting them down. > > > “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are > profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon > unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me > sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain > > > > > Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 15:35:20 -0700 > > From: jgonza...@pacbell.net > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. > > > > It depends on the vet and what they charge. I am in Los Angeles and most of > > the vets I know of charge about $100 for the IFA and about $50 or $60 for > > the ELISA test sent to the lab. I would assume your rescue group has a vet > > where they can get a discount. Our rescue group pays $80 for the IFA and > > $27 for the ELISA sent to the lab. I hope your rescue group is not > > considering euthanasia if the mom and kits test positive. What city are you > > in? > > > > --- On Fri, 3/18/11, Maureen Olvey wrote: > > > > > > From: Maureen Olvey > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Date: Friday, March 18, 2011, 3:24 PM > > > > > > > > Yeah, I figured there's a 99% chance the kittens have already gotten enough > > exposure to the virus to catch it. > > > > I did recommend the other tests though like you said. Are the tests very > > expensive? > > > > > > “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are > > profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon > > unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me > > sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark > > Twain > > > > > > > > > Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 15:16:38 -0700 > > > From: jgonza...@pacbell.net > > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. > > > > > > Since it takes 2 to 4 weeks after exposure for the virus to circulate in > > > the bloodstream, chances are that the kittens are infected if the mother > > > cat is truly infected with the virus. You will not kn
Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated.
That's what I was thinking the IFA costs. That's not bad at all. Definitely worth it. I live on the outskirts of Atlanta. In the old days I think our group would have considered euthanasia but since me and some other folks have been around they are more open-minded and don't listen to the vets. I'm kind of a "b" and always speak my mind about doing research and not trusting everything the vet says. I've gotten burned that way when I had my Basset Hound. When I first started with the humane society I was only working with ferals and strays. I got tired of people telling me that any cat that tested positive for FIV or FeLV one time should be put down without question. They were saying that even the tame ones that I found in my feral colonies should be put down and not taken in and fostered. And oh God, if one cat had an injury, even just a small injury that got a little infected, and the cat had FIV some vets said that it would never heal so I should just go ahead and put the cat down. Even if the cat belonged to someone else they'd say that. Another lady and I started doing research and webinars and going to shelter medicine seminars to be more informed. Funny how a little knowledge can make some big changes. Still though, if they are all definitely positive there will be some challenges. We don't have a lot of foster homes and I can't think of any that would take these guys in to give them a forever home. I told one lady her and I would be taking a road trip to find a sanctuary for them. I don't think there's a place in GA that takes in FeLV cats. I really don't know what we'll do. I'm probably the only one willing to take them in but I've got so many cats already that won't be able to be adopted because they've been exposed to FeLV that I'd rather not take anymore. But, I'm such a sucker that if it came to it I'd end up taking them versus putting them down. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain > Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 15:35:20 -0700 > From: jgonza...@pacbell.net > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. > > It depends on the vet and what they charge. I am in Los Angeles and most of > the vets I know of charge about $100 for the IFA and about $50 or $60 for the > ELISA test sent to the lab. I would assume your rescue group has a vet where > they can get a discount. Our rescue group pays $80 for the IFA and $27 for > the ELISA sent to the lab. I hope your rescue group is not considering > euthanasia if the mom and kits test positive. What city are you in? > > --- On Fri, 3/18/11, Maureen Olvey wrote: > > > From: Maureen Olvey > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Friday, March 18, 2011, 3:24 PM > > > > Yeah, I figured there's a 99% chance the kittens have already gotten enough > exposure to the virus to catch it. > > I did recommend the other tests though like you said. Are the tests very > expensive? > > > “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are > profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon > unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me > sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain > > > > > Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 15:16:38 -0700 > > From: jgonza...@pacbell.net > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. > > > > Since it takes 2 to 4 weeks after exposure for the virus to circulate in > > the bloodstream, chances are that the kittens are infected if the mother > > cat is truly infected with the virus. You will not know if the mother is > > truly infected with the virus until you do more testing. You can test for > > FELV at any age so if you want to know if the kittens have the virus, have > > them tested for FELV. If it were me, I would test the mother cat via the > > ELISA test sent to the lab, then do the IFA test. Many of us in rescue > > have and continue to get false positive readings for the FELV/FIV snap > > combo test. I see absolutely no reason to separate the kittens from their > > mother. If mom is infected, then it is likely that kittens have been > > exposed to the virus since birth or in-vitro. > > > > --- On Fri, 3/18/11, Maureen Olvey wrote: > > > > > > From: Maureen Olvey > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Date: Friday, March 18, 2011, 2:27 PM > > > > > > > > Now I have a question and need advice. > > > > My rescue just took in a mama cat and 4 young kittens that are still > > nursing. Just our luck the mama c
Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated.
It depends on the vet and what they charge. I am in Los Angeles and most of the vets I know of charge about $100 for the IFA and about $50 or $60 for the ELISA test sent to the lab. I would assume your rescue group has a vet where they can get a discount. Our rescue group pays $80 for the IFA and $27 for the ELISA sent to the lab. I hope your rescue group is not considering euthanasia if the mom and kits test positive. What city are you in? --- On Fri, 3/18/11, Maureen Olvey wrote: From: Maureen Olvey Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Friday, March 18, 2011, 3:24 PM Yeah, I figured there's a 99% chance the kittens have already gotten enough exposure to the virus to catch it. I did recommend the other tests though like you said. Are the tests very expensive? “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain > Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 15:16:38 -0700 > From: jgonza...@pacbell.net > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. > > Since it takes 2 to 4 weeks after exposure for the virus to circulate in the > bloodstream, chances are that the kittens are infected if the mother cat is > truly infected with the virus. You will not know if the mother is truly > infected with the virus until you do more testing. You can test for FELV at > any age so if you want to know if the kittens have the virus, have them > tested for FELV. If it were me, I would test the mother cat via the ELISA > test sent to the lab, then do the IFA test. Many of us in rescue have and > continue to get false positive readings for the FELV/FIV snap combo test. I > see absolutely no reason to separate the kittens from their mother. If mom is > infected, then it is likely that kittens have been exposed to the virus since > birth or in-vitro. > > --- On Fri, 3/18/11, Maureen Olvey wrote: > > > From: Maureen Olvey > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Friday, March 18, 2011, 2:27 PM > > > > Now I have a question and need advice. > > My rescue just took in a mama cat and 4 young kittens that are still > nursing. Just our luck the mama cat tested positive for FeLV. My > recommendation was not to put any of them down, but to wait a few months to > see what happens. Maybe the mama cat can kick the virus. My question is > about the kittens. I know they have probably already gotten the virus from > the mama cat, but is there any chance at all that they haven't gotten it? > One vet said maybe we should separate the kittens from the mama just in case > they haven't picked the virus up yet. What do you guys think? Would that be > possible - for them not to have it already, I mean? I know since the kittens > are only about 4 weeks old their chances aren't too good but we want to do > the best we can for them and save them if possible. We've got people that > can bottle feed if they need to be taken from the mom. But I don't want to > separate them if there's no point to it. > > What do you guys think? > > Also, seems like I've heard you guys mentioning vitamins. Was it B > vitamins? Would that be a good idea for the mama cat? > > > “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are > profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon > unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me > sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain > > > > > From: drosenfe...@wi.rr.com > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 18:39:13 -0500 > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. > > > > Generally spay/neuter is a good idea in most cases -- much less > > uncomfortable for the cat, since heat is usually excruciating for them. But > > this is a reason you should seek out a vet familiar with FeLV -- they should > > be able to judge whether Amber would be too stressed by the procedure, or > > figure out ways that she won't be (kitty Prozac?). > > > > Diane R. > > > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___
Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated.
Chances are, if she was positive when they were born, they've got it. Taking them away wouldn't make any difference. I don't see any point, and they're too young to test; at a very young age, there are too many false positives. Poor family! I would definitely give mama Vitamin C and CoQ10 - vegetarian type at GNC is in powder form, open capsule and add to her food. With Vitamin C, start small amounts and build up not to cause diarrhea. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey Sent: Friday, March 18, 2011 5:27 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. Now I have a question and need advice. My rescue just took in a mama cat and 4 young kittens that are still nursing. Just our luck the mama cat tested positive for FeLV. My recommendation was not to put any of them down, but to wait a few months to see what happens. Maybe the mama cat can kick the virus. My question is about the kittens. I know they have probably already gotten the virus from the mama cat, but is there any chance at all that they haven't gotten it? One vet said maybe we should separate the kittens from the mama just in case they haven't picked the virus up yet. What do you guys think? Would that be possible - for them not to have it already, I mean? I know since the kittens are only about 4 weeks old their chances aren't too good but we want to do the best we can for them and save them if possible. We've got people that can bottle feed if they need to be taken from the mom. But I don't want to separate them if there's no point to it. What do you guys think? Also, seems like I've heard you guys mentioning vitamins. Was it B vitamins? Would that be a good idea for the mama cat? "I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn't..the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further." - Mark Twain > From: drosenfe...@wi.rr.com > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 18:39:13 -0500 > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. > > Generally spay/neuter is a good idea in most cases -- much less > uncomfortable for the cat, since heat is usually excruciating for them. But > this is a reason you should seek out a vet familiar with FeLV -- they should > be able to judge whether Amber would be too stressed by the procedure, or > figure out ways that she won't be (kitty Prozac?). > > Diane R. > > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated.
Yeah, I figured there's a 99% chance the kittens have already gotten enough exposure to the virus to catch it. I did recommend the other tests though like you said. Are the tests very expensive? “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain > Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 15:16:38 -0700 > From: jgonza...@pacbell.net > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. > > Since it takes 2 to 4 weeks after exposure for the virus to circulate in the > bloodstream, chances are that the kittens are infected if the mother cat is > truly infected with the virus. You will not know if the mother is truly > infected with the virus until you do more testing. You can test for FELV at > any age so if you want to know if the kittens have the virus, have them > tested for FELV. If it were me, I would test the mother cat via the ELISA > test sent to the lab, then do the IFA test. Many of us in rescue have and > continue to get false positive readings for the FELV/FIV snap combo test. I > see absolutely no reason to separate the kittens from their mother. If mom is > infected, then it is likely that kittens have been exposed to the virus since > birth or in-vitro. > > --- On Fri, 3/18/11, Maureen Olvey wrote: > > > From: Maureen Olvey > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Friday, March 18, 2011, 2:27 PM > > > > Now I have a question and need advice. > > My rescue just took in a mama cat and 4 young kittens that are still nursing. > Just our luck the mama cat tested positive for FeLV. My recommendation was > not to put any of them down, but to wait a few months to see what happens. > Maybe the mama cat can kick the virus. My question is about the kittens. I > know they have probably already gotten the virus from the mama cat, but is > there any chance at all that they haven't gotten it? One vet said maybe we > should separate the kittens from the mama just in case they haven't picked > the virus up yet. What do you guys think? Would that be possible - for them > not to have it already, I mean? I know since the kittens are only about 4 > weeks old their chances aren't too good but we want to do the best we can for > them and save them if possible. We've got people that can bottle feed if > they need to be taken from the mom. But I don't want to separate them if > there's no point to it. > > What do you guys think? > > Also, seems like I've heard you guys mentioning vitamins. Was it B vitamins? > Would that be a good idea for the mama cat? > > > “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are > profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon > unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me > sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain > > > > > From: drosenfe...@wi.rr.com > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 18:39:13 -0500 > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. > > > > Generally spay/neuter is a good idea in most cases -- much less > > uncomfortable for the cat, since heat is usually excruciating for them. But > > this is a reason you should seek out a vet familiar with FeLV -- they should > > be able to judge whether Amber would be too stressed by the procedure, or > > figure out ways that she won't be (kitty Prozac?). > > > > Diane R. > > > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated.
Since it takes 2 to 4 weeks after exposure for the virus to circulate in the bloodstream, chances are that the kittens are infected if the mother cat is truly infected with the virus. You will not know if the mother is truly infected with the virus until you do more testing. You can test for FELV at any age so if you want to know if the kittens have the virus, have them tested for FELV. If it were me, I would test the mother cat via the ELISA test sent to the lab, then do the IFA test. Many of us in rescue have and continue to get false positive readings for the FELV/FIV snap combo test. I see absolutely no reason to separate the kittens from their mother. If mom is infected, then it is likely that kittens have been exposed to the virus since birth or in-vitro. --- On Fri, 3/18/11, Maureen Olvey wrote: From: Maureen Olvey Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Friday, March 18, 2011, 2:27 PM Now I have a question and need advice. My rescue just took in a mama cat and 4 young kittens that are still nursing. Just our luck the mama cat tested positive for FeLV. My recommendation was not to put any of them down, but to wait a few months to see what happens. Maybe the mama cat can kick the virus. My question is about the kittens. I know they have probably already gotten the virus from the mama cat, but is there any chance at all that they haven't gotten it? One vet said maybe we should separate the kittens from the mama just in case they haven't picked the virus up yet. What do you guys think? Would that be possible - for them not to have it already, I mean? I know since the kittens are only about 4 weeks old their chances aren't too good but we want to do the best we can for them and save them if possible. We've got people that can bottle feed if they need to be taken from the mom. But I don't want to separate them if there's no point to it. What do you guys think? Also, seems like I've heard you guys mentioning vitamins. Was it B vitamins? Would that be a good idea for the mama cat? “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain > From: drosenfe...@wi.rr.com > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 18:39:13 -0500 > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. > > Generally spay/neuter is a good idea in most cases -- much less > uncomfortable for the cat, since heat is usually excruciating for them. But > this is a reason you should seek out a vet familiar with FeLV -- they should > be able to judge whether Amber would be too stressed by the procedure, or > figure out ways that she won't be (kitty Prozac?). > > Diane R. > > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated.
Why are you thinking I should go ahead and separate them from mama cat? Is that so her milk will hurry and dry up so we can get her spayed or is there another reason? Oh, there's another foster that has the family right now. I'm hoping to keep it that way! I thought I would be able to get out of fostering since I found out one of my kitties had FeLV. As much as I love fostering I was looking forward to a break. I had already told the rest of the board that I wouldn't be able to foster anymore. Figures we'd take in a FeLV + kitty right after my discovery. Somehow I have a feeling that at some point I'll end up with the family. So much for taking a break from fostering! Actually, I'd rather take a break from work not fostering but that's not an option. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain > Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 14:58:37 -0700 > From: cline...@yahoo.com > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. > > Maureen, the kittens are probably already FeLV+. I would separate them from > the Momma cat. They are old enough to eat canned kitten food mixed with a > little warm water and KMR. When I rescued a momma a litter of 4 all were > positive. The kittens lived 12-14 months. Momma lived for 4 yrs. But they > had a good life for as long as they were with me. > > I tried B12, folic acid, brewers yeast, L-lysine and Mega C. Didn't help my > kittens but yours could be different. > > Thank you for taking this family in. Be sure to spay the Momma immediately. > Sharyl > > --- On Fri, 3/18/11, Maureen Olive wrote: > > > From: Maureen Olvey > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Friday, March 18, 2011, 5:27 PM > > > > Now I have a question and need advice. > > My rescue just took in a mama cat and 4 young kittens that are still nursing. > Just our luck the mama cat tested positive for FeLV. My recommendation was > not to put any of them down, but to wait a few months to see what happens. > Maybe the mama cat can kick the virus. My question is about the kittens. I > know they have probably already gotten the virus from the mama cat, but is > there any chance at all that they haven't gotten it? One vet said maybe we > should separate the kittens from the mama just in case they haven't picked > the virus up yet. What do you guys think? Would that be possible - for them > not to have it already, I mean? I know since the kittens are only about 4 > weeks old their chances aren't too good but we want to do the best we can for > them and save them if possible. We've got people that can bottle feed if > they need to be taken from the mom. But I don't want to separate them if > there's no point to it. > > What do you guys think? > > Also, seems like I've heard you guys mentioning vitamins. Was it B vitamins? > Would that be a good idea for the mama cat? > > > “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are > profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon > unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me > sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain > > > > > From: drosenfe...@wi.rr.com > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 18:39:13 -0500 > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. > > > > Generally spay/neuter is a good idea in most cases -- much less > > uncomfortable for the cat, since heat is usually excruciating for them. But > > this is a reason you should seek out a vet familiar with FeLV -- they should > > be able to judge whether Amber would be too stressed by the procedure, or > > figure out ways that she won't be (kitty Prozac?). > > > > Diane R. > > > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated.
Maureen, the kittens are probably already FeLV+. I would separate them from the Momma cat. They are old enough to eat canned kitten food mixed with a little warm water and KMR. When I rescued a momma a litter of 4 all were positive. The kittens lived 12-14 months. Momma lived for 4 yrs. But they had a good life for as long as they were with me. I tried B12, folic acid, brewers yeast, L-lysine and Mega C. Didn't help my kittens but yours could be different. Thank you for taking this family in. Be sure to spay the Momma immediately. Sharyl --- On Fri, 3/18/11, Maureen Olive wrote: From: Maureen Olvey Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Friday, March 18, 2011, 5:27 PM Now I have a question and need advice. My rescue just took in a mama cat and 4 young kittens that are still nursing. Just our luck the mama cat tested positive for FeLV. My recommendation was not to put any of them down, but to wait a few months to see what happens. Maybe the mama cat can kick the virus. My question is about the kittens. I know they have probably already gotten the virus from the mama cat, but is there any chance at all that they haven't gotten it? One vet said maybe we should separate the kittens from the mama just in case they haven't picked the virus up yet. What do you guys think? Would that be possible - for them not to have it already, I mean? I know since the kittens are only about 4 weeks old their chances aren't too good but we want to do the best we can for them and save them if possible. We've got people that can bottle feed if they need to be taken from the mom. But I don't want to separate them if there's no point to it. What do you guys think? Also, seems like I've heard you guys mentioning vitamins. Was it B vitamins? Would that be a good idea for the mama cat? “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain > From: drosenfe...@wi.rr.com > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 18:39:13 -0500 > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. > > Generally spay/neuter is a good idea in most cases -- much less > uncomfortable for the cat, since heat is usually excruciating for them. But > this is a reason you should seek out a vet familiar with FeLV -- they should > be able to judge whether Amber would be too stressed by the procedure, or > figure out ways that she won't be (kitty Prozac?). > > Diane R. > > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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See below. I think she meant to send it to you not to mee --- On Fri, 3/18/11, Linda Demiri wrote: From: Linda Demiri Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. To: "Jacquelyn Gonzales " Date: Friday, March 18, 2011, 2:53 PM Honest I don't think it makes much of a difference to seperate the kittens. I had a positive kitty and her sister turned out negative yet they both nursed from their mom whom was positive and alive and well to this day. My kitty passed away @ 19months from severe anemia (but I was dealing with a very incompetent VET) her sibiling and Mother are alive and well. I think its all about the Cats immune system so I wish you the best of luck with that. PS I have been told that COLUSTRUM works magic for cats and all pets in general. Good Luck! Linda Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Jacquelyn Gonzales Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 21:40:00 To: Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. If your vet did the FELV/FIV combo snap test on the mother, beware as this test can produce false positive readings due to cross-reactivity. Please test her via ELISA sent to the lab and if that comes back positive, test via IFA. Or, you can go straight to the IFA test. --- On Fri, 3/18/11, Maureen Olvey wrote: From: Maureen Olvey Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Friday, March 18, 2011, 2:27 PM Now I have a question and need advice. My rescue just took in a mama cat and 4 young kittens that are still nursing. Just our luck the mama cat tested positive for FeLV. My recommendation was not to put any of them down, but to wait a few months to see what happens. Maybe the mama cat can kick the virus. My question is about the kittens. I know they have probably already gotten the virus from the mama cat, but is there any chance at all that they haven't gotten it? One vet said maybe we should separate the kittens from the mama just in case they haven't picked the virus up yet. What do you guys think? Would that be possible - for them not to have it already, I mean? I know since the kittens are only about 4 weeks old their chances aren't too good but we want to do the best we can for them and save them if possible. We've got people that can bottle feed if they need to be taken from the mom. But I don't want to separate them if there's no point to it. What do you guys think? Also, seems like I've heard you guys mentioning vitamins. Was it B vitamins? Would that be a good idea for the mama cat? "I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn't..the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further." - Mark Twain > From: drosenfe...@wi.rr.com > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 18:39:13 -0500 > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. > > Generally spay/neuter is a good idea in most cases -- much less > uncomfortable for the cat, since heat is usually excruciating for them. But > this is a reason you should seek out a vet familiar with FeLV -- they should > be able to judge whether Amber would be too stressed by the procedure, or > figure out ways that she won't be (kitty Prozac?). > > Diane R. > > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated.
Yes. Both tests are usually back in 24 hours. --- On Fri, 3/18/11, Maureen Olvey wrote: From: Maureen Olvey Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Friday, March 18, 2011, 2:46 PM A, good point. Hadn't thought about that. Would we get the results of those tests pretty quick? “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain > Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 14:40:00 -0700 > From: jgonza...@pacbell.net > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. > > If your vet did the FELV/FIV combo snap test on the mother, beware as this > test can produce false positive readings due to cross-reactivity. Please > test her via ELISA sent to the lab and if that comes back positive, test via > IFA. Or, you can go straight to the IFA test. > > --- On Fri, 3/18/11, Maureen Olvey wrote: > > > From: Maureen Olvey > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Friday, March 18, 2011, 2:27 PM > > > > Now I have a question and need advice. > > My rescue just took in a mama cat and 4 young kittens that are still > nursing. Just our luck the mama cat tested positive for FeLV. My > recommendation was not to put any of them down, but to wait a few months to > see what happens. Maybe the mama cat can kick the virus. My question is > about the kittens. I know they have probably already gotten the virus from > the mama cat, but is there any chance at all that they haven't gotten it? > One vet said maybe we should separate the kittens from the mama just in case > they haven't picked the virus up yet. What do you guys think? Would that be > possible - for them not to have it already, I mean? I know since the kittens > are only about 4 weeks old their chances aren't too good but we want to do > the best we can for them and save them if possible. We've got people that > can bottle feed if they need to be taken from the mom. But I don't want to > separate them if there's no point to it. > > What do you guys think? > > Also, seems like I've heard you guys mentioning vitamins. Was it B > vitamins? Would that be a good idea for the mama cat? > > > “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are > profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon > unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me > sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain > > > > > From: drosenfe...@wi.rr.com > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 18:39:13 -0500 > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. > > > > Generally spay/neuter is a good idea in most cases -- much less > > uncomfortable for the cat, since heat is usually excruciating for them. But > > this is a reason you should seek out a vet familiar with FeLV -- they should > > be able to judge whether Amber would be too stressed by the procedure, or > > figure out ways that she won't be (kitty Prozac?). > > > > Diane R. > > > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated.
A, good point. Hadn't thought about that. Would we get the results of those tests pretty quick? “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain > Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 14:40:00 -0700 > From: jgonza...@pacbell.net > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. > > If your vet did the FELV/FIV combo snap test on the mother, beware as this > test can produce false positive readings due to cross-reactivity. Please > test her via ELISA sent to the lab and if that comes back positive, test via > IFA. Or, you can go straight to the IFA test. > > --- On Fri, 3/18/11, Maureen Olvey wrote: > > > From: Maureen Olvey > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Friday, March 18, 2011, 2:27 PM > > > > Now I have a question and need advice. > > My rescue just took in a mama cat and 4 young kittens that are still nursing. > Just our luck the mama cat tested positive for FeLV. My recommendation was > not to put any of them down, but to wait a few months to see what happens. > Maybe the mama cat can kick the virus. My question is about the kittens. I > know they have probably already gotten the virus from the mama cat, but is > there any chance at all that they haven't gotten it? One vet said maybe we > should separate the kittens from the mama just in case they haven't picked > the virus up yet. What do you guys think? Would that be possible - for them > not to have it already, I mean? I know since the kittens are only about 4 > weeks old their chances aren't too good but we want to do the best we can for > them and save them if possible. We've got people that can bottle feed if > they need to be taken from the mom. But I don't want to separate them if > there's no point to it. > > What do you guys think? > > Also, seems like I've heard you guys mentioning vitamins. Was it B vitamins? > Would that be a good idea for the mama cat? > > > “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are > profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon > unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me > sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain > > > > > From: drosenfe...@wi.rr.com > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 18:39:13 -0500 > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. > > > > Generally spay/neuter is a good idea in most cases -- much less > > uncomfortable for the cat, since heat is usually excruciating for them. But > > this is a reason you should seek out a vet familiar with FeLV -- they should > > be able to judge whether Amber would be too stressed by the procedure, or > > figure out ways that she won't be (kitty Prozac?). > > > > Diane R. > > > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated.
If your vet did the FELV/FIV combo snap test on the mother, beware as this test can produce false positive readings due to cross-reactivity. Please test her via ELISA sent to the lab and if that comes back positive, test via IFA. Or, you can go straight to the IFA test. --- On Fri, 3/18/11, Maureen Olvey wrote: From: Maureen Olvey Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Friday, March 18, 2011, 2:27 PM Now I have a question and need advice. My rescue just took in a mama cat and 4 young kittens that are still nursing. Just our luck the mama cat tested positive for FeLV. My recommendation was not to put any of them down, but to wait a few months to see what happens. Maybe the mama cat can kick the virus. My question is about the kittens. I know they have probably already gotten the virus from the mama cat, but is there any chance at all that they haven't gotten it? One vet said maybe we should separate the kittens from the mama just in case they haven't picked the virus up yet. What do you guys think? Would that be possible - for them not to have it already, I mean? I know since the kittens are only about 4 weeks old their chances aren't too good but we want to do the best we can for them and save them if possible. We've got people that can bottle feed if they need to be taken from the mom. But I don't want to separate them if there's no point to it. What do you guys think? Also, seems like I've heard you guys mentioning vitamins. Was it B vitamins? Would that be a good idea for the mama cat? “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain > From: drosenfe...@wi.rr.com > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 18:39:13 -0500 > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. > > Generally spay/neuter is a good idea in most cases -- much less > uncomfortable for the cat, since heat is usually excruciating for them. But > this is a reason you should seek out a vet familiar with FeLV -- they should > be able to judge whether Amber would be too stressed by the procedure, or > figure out ways that she won't be (kitty Prozac?). > > Diane R. > > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated.
Now I have a question and need advice. My rescue just took in a mama cat and 4 young kittens that are still nursing. Just our luck the mama cat tested positive for FeLV. My recommendation was not to put any of them down, but to wait a few months to see what happens. Maybe the mama cat can kick the virus. My question is about the kittens. I know they have probably already gotten the virus from the mama cat, but is there any chance at all that they haven't gotten it? One vet said maybe we should separate the kittens from the mama just in case they haven't picked the virus up yet. What do you guys think? Would that be possible - for them not to have it already, I mean? I know since the kittens are only about 4 weeks old their chances aren't too good but we want to do the best we can for them and save them if possible. We've got people that can bottle feed if they need to be taken from the mom. But I don't want to separate them if there's no point to it. What do you guys think? Also, seems like I've heard you guys mentioning vitamins. Was it B vitamins? Would that be a good idea for the mama cat? “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain > From: drosenfe...@wi.rr.com > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 18:39:13 -0500 > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any advice appreciated. > > Generally spay/neuter is a good idea in most cases -- much less > uncomfortable for the cat, since heat is usually excruciating for them. But > this is a reason you should seek out a vet familiar with FeLV -- they should > be able to judge whether Amber would be too stressed by the procedure, or > figure out ways that she won't be (kitty Prozac?). > > Diane R. > > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
