[Felvtalk] News about Ginger

2012-02-07 Thread botha . marinda4
My vet ordered Interferon and Cyproheptadine. The vet suspects leukemia is 
already in  kitty's bone marrow. Ginger kitty refuses to eat his food but tried 
to eat his cat litter last night. What should I do? Euthanasia? I can't see my 
darling suffer like this! Marinda 
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Re: [Felvtalk] ELISA IFA Tests:

2012-02-07 Thread Lorrie
On 02-06, Lynda Wilson wrote:
 I've never heard of a PSA. Is this new?
 
 L
 
I thought PSA was a prostate check for men.

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Re: [Felvtalk] News about Ginger

2012-02-07 Thread Terri Brown
First -- I'm sorry you had to find us, but I'm glad you're here.

Please try to remain as calm as possible and don't panic.  Ginger will pick up 
on that -- he might get stressed out if you're freaking out and that won't help 
him.  (hugs)

Only you can decide if it's time to let him go.  No one can make that decision 
for you -- you and Ginger kitty have to decide that.  If he's ready to go, you 
will know.

Try something smelly -- anchovy paste maybe.the juice from a can of 
tuna..see if he will take that.  If he continues to refuse food, he could 
get worse.  More than 72 hours without food and the damage could be 
irreversible.

My very first experience with FeLV: my cat was diagnosed on 10/25/1999 and I 
had to put her to sleep the very next day.  That's how I came to find this 
list.  She was so sick with the anemia that to keep her alive would have been 
cruel.  But some cats pull out of it -- some don't.  Depends on the cat.  My 
one FeLV+ cat lived to be 9-1/2 years old.  So some of them have a good life.  
I don't give up on them until the kitty tells me that they are tired and are 
ready to go.  If you think Ginger wants to fight, then give him the chance.

We have ALL been where you are.  This is an ugly disease.

Hoping with you that Ginger pulls out of this

=^..^= Terri, Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Travis, Dori, Kimiko and 6 
furangels: 
Ruthie, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec, Salome and Sammi =^..^=

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  My vet ordered Interferon and Cyproheptadine. The vet suspects leukemia is 
already in  kitty's bone marrow. Ginger kitty refuses to eat his food but tried 
to eat his cat litter last night. What should I do? Euthanasia? I can't see my 
darling suffer like this! Marinda 
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[Felvtalk] Feeding with syringe!

2012-02-07 Thread GRAS
I'm sorry if I missed any latest info, but has the vet seen Ginger kitty
yet? Has he given any supportive treatment like at least some 
sub-q fluids?  
If you haven't fed a cat with a syringe, technique is important.  I always
gave the cat sitting on my lap or to my side, holding the head from under
the chin, slightly up (cat can be wrapped in a towel if difficult to hold),
inserting the syringe from the SIDE of the mouth (NOT front), squeezing in a
small amount and allowing the cat to swallow, and continue with tiny
amounts.  No sense squeezing in a lot if food only to have the cat spit it
out. The food has to be mushy enough to easily get through the tip of
syringe.  Here, we have Hill's Science Diet A=D, which is high caloric for
sick and recuperating cats.

Here's some info on syringe feeding:
http://www.goodsearch.com/search.aspx?keywords=How+to+feed+cat+with+syringe 
Videos on syringe feeding: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9ygsA93vQc ,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6o17wH6ujk 

Eating litter can mean many things, usually because something is missing in
their diet, some kind of nutritional imbalance, which would be quite
understandable in a sick cat.
http://www.goodsearch.com/search.aspx?keywords=Cats+eating+litter+litter
Natalie 
   
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Subject: [Felvtalk] News about Ginger

My vet ordered Interferon and Cyproheptadine. The vet suspects leukemia is
already in  kitty's bone marrow. Ginger kitty refuses to eat his food but
tried to eat his cat litter last night. What should I do? Euthanasia? I
can't see my darling suffer like this! Marinda Sent via my BlackBerry from
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Re: [Felvtalk] ELISA IFA Tests:

2012-02-07 Thread Lynda Wilson
That's what I found when I googled it, Lorrie :)  This was in response to 
Kathryns thread. She said she meant a PCR test. I've never heard of this 
either.


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On 02-06, Lynda Wilson wrote:

I've never heard of a PSA. Is this new?

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I thought PSA was a prostate check for men.

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Re: [Felvtalk] News about Ginger

2012-02-07 Thread Lynda Wilson
Amen, Terri! That's the best advice to give. And yes, we have all experienced 
this horrible disease. Same happened to my kitten I adopted through my local 
humane society. He never showed signs of being sick (except for some very loose 
stools sometimes) and tested negative (but I think they tested him too early). 
Anyway, one day he was fine, and the second day I was putting him to rest. He 
was in very bad shape and I could see it in his eyes. He was only 9 mos old. 
Next month will be a year since he was laid to rest. He was an orange flame 
kitten, long - haired and beautiful!!! 

Again, only you can decide if it's Ginger's time, but please do not let him 
suffer.

My heart aches for both of you!
Lynda
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  Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 6:02 AM
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] News about Ginger


  First -- I'm sorry you had to find us, but I'm glad you're here.

  Please try to remain as calm as possible and don't panic.  Ginger will pick 
up on that -- he might get stressed out if you're freaking out and that won't 
help him.  (hugs)

  Only you can decide if it's time to let him go.  No one can make that 
decision for you -- you and Ginger kitty have to decide that.  If he's ready to 
go, you will know.

  Try something smelly -- anchovy paste maybe.the juice from a can of 
tuna..see if he will take that.  If he continues to refuse food, he could 
get worse.  More than 72 hours without food and the damage could be 
irreversible.

  My very first experience with FeLV: my cat was diagnosed on 10/25/1999 and I 
had to put her to sleep the very next day.  That's how I came to find this 
list.  She was so sick with the anemia that to keep her alive would have been 
cruel.  But some cats pull out of it -- some don't.  Depends on the cat.  My 
one FeLV+ cat lived to be 9-1/2 years old.  So some of them have a good life.  
I don't give up on them until the kitty tells me that they are tired and are 
ready to go.  If you think Ginger wants to fight, then give him the chance.

  We have ALL been where you are.  This is an ugly disease.

  Hoping with you that Ginger pulls out of this

  =^..^= Terri, Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Travis, Dori, Kimiko and 
6 furangels: 
  Ruthie, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec, Salome and Sammi =^..^=

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Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 6:39 AM
Subject: [Felvtalk] News about Ginger


My vet ordered Interferon and Cyproheptadine. The vet suspects leukemia is 
already in  kitty's bone marrow. Ginger kitty refuses to eat his food but tried 
to eat his cat litter last night. What should I do? Euthanasia? I can't see my 
darling suffer like this! Marinda 
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Re: [Felvtalk] News about Ginger

2012-02-07 Thread Marcia Baronda
I know this sounds completely off subject, but there is a ton of information on 
Tanya's CRF website about what to do for cats that aren't eating. This info, 
although is provided for cats with CRF, can be used for any cat that isn't 
eating. I would also recommend a b complex supplement. It will stimulate 
appetite, and cats lose b vitamins during times of stress. What did your vet 
say concerning euthanasia? Some won't say anymore. I will be thinking of you 
and Ginger. My heart goes out to you 3

Marcia



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On Feb 7, 2012, at 5:39 AM, botha.marin...@gmail.com wrote:

 My vet ordered Interferon and Cyproheptadine. The vet suspects leukemia is 
 already in  kitty's bone marrow. Ginger kitty refuses to eat his food but 
 tried to eat his cat litter last night. What should I do? Euthanasia? I can't 
 see my darling suffer like this! Marinda 
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Re: [Felvtalk] News about Ginger

2012-02-07 Thread Beth
Eating litter is a classic sign of severe anemia. Most of my FeLV's died from 
anemia. At this point it's probably too late for interferon. That is a good 
preventative to boost the immune system, but it takes a while to start working. 

I euthanized all mine at the point they started eating litter, but that is a 
choice that only you can make.
My thought are with you  your baby. I know how hard it is to see them suffer.

Beth

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To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2012 6:39 AM
Subject: [Felvtalk] News about Ginger
 
My vet ordered Interferon and Cyproheptadine. The vet suspects leukemia is 
already in  kitty's bone marrow. Ginger kitty refuses to eat his food but tried 
to eat his cat litter last night. What should I do? Euthanasia? I can't see my 
darling suffer like this! Marinda 
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Re: [Felvtalk] ELISA IFA Tests:

2012-02-07 Thread Holly Shelton
Hi, I am new to all of this.  My cat Oliver had the PCR after testing positive 
with the ELISA.  Sadly, he tested positive after getting the PCR test. He is a 
6 year old Siamese.  My vet had a chat with some hoity toity vet either at 
Davis or Cornell who said that it was more accurate.  


Everyone else in the house tested negative and just had their booster shots.  
Follow up blood work for all is in Mid March.


Thanks for all of the info here!


Holly



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Sent: Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:02 am
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ELISA  IFA Tests:


That's what I found when I googled it, Lorrie :)  This was in response to 
Kathryns thread. She said she meant a PCR test. I've never heard of this 
either.

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To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 5:40 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ELISA  IFA Tests:


 On 02-06, Lynda Wilson wrote:
 I've never heard of a PSA. Is this new?

 L

 I thought PSA was a prostate check for men.

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Re: [Felvtalk] News about Ginger

2012-02-07 Thread Holly Shelton
Tanya's CRF site is awesome. It really helped me turn my renal cat around.  I 
can't access my list of things to feed when cats refuse to eat right now.  Off 
the top of my head: a plain McDonald's hamburger patty, all meat baby food, 
boiled chicken, cheese, lunchmeat, smelly fish food.. I am just learning 
about Felv.  My prior experience with cat issues is with diabetes and renal 
failure.  Sending you good thoughts.  Holly



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Subject: [Felvtalk] News about Ginger


My vet ordered Interferon and Cyproheptadine. The vet suspects leukemia is 
already in  kitty's bone marrow. Ginger kitty refuses to eat his food but tried 
to eat his cat litter last night. What should I do? Euthanasia? I can't see my 
darling suffer like this! Marinda 
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[Felvtalk] Tanya's CRF Site

2012-02-07 Thread Val Green
I must have missed it, but can someone give me Tanya's site about CRF? My 
beloved Manny cat has CRF and I want to do as much as I can for him. 

Thank you all,

Valerie
On Feb 7, 2012, at 9:57 AM, Holly Shelton hsshel...@aol.com wrote:

 Tanya's CRF site is awesome. It really helped me turn my renal cat around.  I 
 can't access my list of things to feed when cats refuse to eat right now.  
 Off the top of my head: a plain McDonald's hamburger patty, all meat baby 
 food, boiled chicken, cheese, lunchmeat, smelly fish food.. I am just 
 learning about Felv.  My prior experience with cat issues is with diabetes 
 and renal failure.  Sending you good thoughts.  Holly
 
 
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 To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Tue, Feb 7, 2012 1:30 am
 Subject: [Felvtalk] News about Ginger
 
 My vet ordered Interferon and Cyproheptadine. The vet suspects leukemia is 
 already in  kitty's bone marrow. Ginger kitty refuses to eat his food but 
 tried 
 to eat his cat litter last night. What should I do? Euthanasia? I can't see 
 my 
 darling suffer like this! Marinda 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Tanya's CRF Site

2012-02-07 Thread Chris Macke
Just google Tanya's CRF site and it will come right up
  - Original Message - 
  From: Val Green 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 12:44 PM
  Subject: [Felvtalk] Tanya's CRF Site


  I must have missed it, but can someone give me Tanya's site about CRF? My 
beloved Manny cat has CRF and I want to do as much as I can for him. 


  Thank you all,


  Valerie
  On Feb 7, 2012, at 9:57 AM, Holly Shelton hsshel...@aol.com wrote:


Tanya's CRF site is awesome. It really helped me turn my renal cat around.  
I can't access my list of things to feed when cats refuse to eat right now.  
Off the top of my head: a plain McDonald's hamburger patty, all meat baby food, 
boiled chicken, cheese, lunchmeat, smelly fish food.. I am just learning 
about Felv.  My prior experience with cat issues is with diabetes and renal 
failure.  Sending you good thoughts.  Holl font



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Subject: [Felvtalk] News about Ginger


My vet ordered Interferon and Cyproheptadine. The vet suspects leukemia is 
already in  kitty's bone marrow. Ginger kitty refuses to eat his food but tried 
to eat his cat litter last night. What should I do? Euthanasia? I can't see my 
darling suffer like this! Marinda 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Tanya's CRF Site

2012-02-07 Thread GRAS
Here it is:

http://www.felinecrf.org/ 

 

I am dealing with CRF on a continuous basis, and treatment depends on the
levels of creatinine, BUN, phosphorus, etc.

I use aluminum hydroxide, Pepcid AC, sub=q fluids, special diets, and
whatever the vet tells me depending on test results.

Natalie

 

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To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tanya's CRF Site

 

Just google Tanya's CRF site and it will come right up

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From: Val Green mailto:harpestry...@aol.com  

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 

Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 12:44 PM

Subject: [Felvtalk] Tanya's CRF Site

 

I must have missed it, but can someone give me Tanya's site about CRF? My
beloved Manny cat has CRF and I want to do as much as I can for him. 

 

Thank you all,

 

Valerie
On Feb 7, 2012, at 9:57 AM, Holly Shelton hsshel...@aol.com wrote:

Tanya's CRF site is awesome. It really helped me turn my renal cat around.
I can't access my list of things to feed when cats refuse to eat right now.
Off the top of my head: a plain McDonald's hamburger patty, all meat baby
food, boiled chicken, cheese, lunchmeat, smelly fish food.. I am just
learning about Felv.  My prior experience with cat issues is with diabetes
and renal failure.  Sending you good thoughts.  Holl font



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Subject: [Felvtalk] News about Ginger

My vet ordered Interferon and Cyproheptadine. The vet suspects leukemia is 
already in  kitty's bone marrow. Ginger kitty refuses to eat his food but
tried 
to eat his cat litter last night. What should I do? Euthanasia? I can't see
my 
darling suffer like this! Marinda 
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Re: [Felvtalk] News about Ginger

2012-02-07 Thread Marcia Baronda
Hi
I just have to be totally honest here so that you and Ginger don't go through 
what my little Fletch went through. I didn't make it to the vet on time. Fletch 
died in his crate while I was racing to get him there to stop his suffering. He 
died a horrible death, and I will never ever forget it. Now, none of us can see 
your kitty, or what kind of shape it is in, but please, don't wait to long. 
It's a hard decision because there IS hope for Felv cats. It's a fine line to 
walk. And I think it's very hard, anymore, to find a vet who will actually tell 
you to euthanize. My thoughts are with you. I'm so sorry you and Ginger have to 
go through this.

Marcia

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 already in  kitty's bone marrow. Ginger kitty refuses to eat his food but 
 tried to eat his cat litter last night. What should I do? Euthanasia? I can't 
 see my darling suffer like this! Marinda 
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Re: [Felvtalk] News about Ginger

2012-02-07 Thread Marcia Baronda
Beth, I had no idea. That is a very good piece of info. Thank you!

Marcia


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On Feb 7, 2012, at 9:14 AM, Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Eating litter is a classic sign of severe anemia. Most of my FeLV's died from 
 anemia. At this point it's probably too late for interferon. That is a good 
 preventative to boost the immune system, but it takes a while to start 
 working. 
 I euthanized all mine at the point they started eating litter, but that is a 
 choice that only you can make.
 My thought are with you  your baby. I know how hard it is to see them suffer.
 Beth
 Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org
  
 
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 already in  kitty's bone marrow. Ginger kitty refuses to eat his food but 
 tried to eat his cat litter last night. What should I do? Euthanasia? I can't 
 see my darling suffer like this! Marinda 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Tanya's CRF Site

2012-02-07 Thread Val Green
Thanks, Natalie and all who responded. I've got Manny on prescription K/D dry 
food, baby food meats and lots of water dishes all over the house. He's 
probably close to 15 years old and has had CRF for several years. He's put on 
some weight recently and I'm hopeful he'll be around a few more years. Lots of 
love from this sweet, black cat!

Valerie

On Feb 7, 2012, at 12:10 PM, GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote:

 Here it is:
 
 http://www.felinecrf.org/
 
  
 
 I am dealing with CRF on a continuous basis, and treatment depends on the 
 levels of creatinine, BUN, phosphorus, etc.
 
 I use aluminum hydroxide, Pepcid AC, sub=q fluids, special diets, and 
 whatever the vet tells me depending on test results.
 
 Natalie
 
  
 
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 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Chris Macke
 Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 12:50 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tanya's CRF Site
 
  
 
 Just google Tanya's CRF site and it will come right up
 
 - Original Message -
 
 From: Val Green
 
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 
 Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 12:44 PM
 
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Tanya's CRF Site
 
  
 
 I must have missed it, but can someone give me Tanya's site about CRF? My 
 beloved Manny cat has CRF and I want to do as much as I can for him. 
 
  
 
 Thank you all,
 
  
 
 Valerie
 On Feb 7, 2012, at 9:57 AM, Holly Shelton hsshel...@aol.com wrote:
 
 Tanya's CRF site is awesome. It really helped me turn my renal cat around.  I 
 can't access my list of things to feed when cats refuse to eat right now.  
 Off the top of my head: a plain McDonald's hamburger patty, all meat baby 
 food, boiled chicken, cheese, lunchmeat, smelly fish food.. I am just 
 learning about Felv.  My prior experience with cat issues is with diabetes 
 and renal failure.  Sending you good thoughts.  Holl font
 
 
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 Sent: Tue, Feb 7, 2012 1:30 am
 Subject: [Felvtalk] News about Ginger
 
 My vet ordered Interferon and Cyproheptadine. The vet suspects leukemia is 
 already in  kitty's bone marrow. Ginger kitty refuses to eat his food but 
 tried 
 to eat his cat litter last night. What should I do? Euthanasia? I can't see 
 my 
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Re: [Felvtalk] News about Ginger

2012-02-07 Thread Wendy
I have just signed up for felv talk and truly appreciate finding this group!  
After fostering three kittens, our family decided to adopt them when we 
received the results that all three were positive for feline leukemia.  We kept 
all three and have one cat still with us who will turn five years old in May.  
I tell you this to let you know that I have been where you are with Ginger 
twice...in both situations, our kitties had severe anemia.  The first time, I 
know that I let our little one suffer too long due to my difficulty letting her 
go.  The second time, I knew when it was time to euthanize and was able to say 
a peaceful and gentle goodbye.  I listened closely when our vet presented the 
options.  As Marcia said, it's a fine line to walk because you want to do all 
that you can do for your baby but you do not want to see him suffer.  I will 
keep you and Ginger in my good thoughts and am so sorry about the situation.
Wendy

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From: Marcia Baronda marciabmar...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] News about Ginger
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Tuesday, February 7, 2012, 1:30 PM

Hi
I just have to be totally honest here so that you and Ginger don't go through 
what my little Fletch went through. I didn't make it to the vet on time. Fletch 
died in his crate while I was racing to get him there to stop his suffering. He 
died a horrible death, and I will never ever forget it. Now, none of us can see 
your kitty, or what kind of shape it is in, but please, don't wait to long. 
It's a hard decision because there IS hope for Felv cats. It's a fine line to 
walk. And I think it's very hard, anymore, to find a vet who will actually tell 
you to euthanize. My thoughts are with you. I'm so sorry you and Ginger have to 
go through this.

Marcia

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 already in  kitty's bone marrow. Ginger kitty refuses to eat his food but 
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Re: [Felvtalk] News about Ginger

2012-02-07 Thread Beth
I had the same experience, Wendy.

I pulled out all the stops with my first FeLV, only to see her suffer. I won't 
do it any more.

Beth 

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 From: Wendy speechie1...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2012 2:17 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] News about Ginger
 

I have just signed up for felv talk and truly appreciate finding this group!  
After fostering three kittens, our family decided to adopt them when we 
received the results that all three were positive for feline leukemia.  We kept 
all three and have one cat still with us who will turn five years old in May.  
I tell you this to let you know that I have been where you are with Ginger 
twice...in both situations, our kitties had severe anemia.  The first time, I 
know that I let our little one suffer too long due to my difficulty letting her 
go.  The second time, I knew when it was time to euthanize and was able to say 
a peaceful and gentle goodbye.  I listened closely when our vet presented the 
options.  As Marcia said, it's a fine line to walk because you want to do all 
that you can do for your baby but you do not want to see him suffer.  I will 
keep you and Ginger in my good thoughts and am so sorry about the situation.

Wendy

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From: Marcia Baronda marciabmar...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] News about Ginger
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Tuesday, February 7, 2012, 1:30 PM


Hi
I just have to be totally honest here so that you and Ginger don't go through 
what my little Fletch went through. I didn't make it to the vet on time. 
Fletch died in his crate while I was racing to get him there to stop his 
suffering. He died a horrible death, and I will never ever forget it. Now, 
none of us can see your kitty, or what kind of shape it is in, but please, 
don't wait to
 long. It's a hard decision because there IS hope for Felv cats. It's a fine 
line to walk. And I think it's very hard, anymore, to find a vet who will 
actually tell you to euthanize. My thoughts are with you. I'm so sorry you and 
Ginger have to go through this.

Marcia

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On Feb 7, 2012, at 5:39 AM, botha.marin...@gmail.com wrote:

 My vet ordered Interferon and Cyproheptadine. The vet suspects leukemia is 
 already in  kitty's bone marrow. Ginger kitty refuses to eat his food but 
 tried to eat his cat litter last night. What should I do? Euthanasia? I 
 can't see my darling suffer like this! Marinda 
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[Felvtalk] Ginger; virus in bone marrow

2012-02-07 Thread Marta Gasper
.. I want to tell you what hapenned to us with our FeLV+ Jourdan. On Thurs vet 
though virus was in the bone marrow. Sat she was very poor but she was holding 
her own. By Mon one of her eyes looked very strange so I went to get things 
ready to get her to vet, drove her there, less than 10 mts. We got her out of 
carrier, set on table, when vet came in she reared her head up and stared at 
them. Both her eyes were completly white, looked like something out of a horror 
movie. Vet said the virus would have gotten in her brain and made her blind, 
she was in lots of pain so we helped her along. But did I wish I had done it 
before..
I'm not saying same will happen to Ginger but we don't know. If virus is in the 
bone marrow it is very bad and she's really suffering. Whatever you do will be 
the best decision
Sending a big hug
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Re: [Felvtalk] Tanya's CRF Site

2012-02-07 Thread Sharyl
It's 
www.felineCRF.org
 
Has everything you need to know.  Was a life saver for me
Sharyl
 


 From: Val Green harpestry...@aol.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2012 12:44 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Tanya's CRF Site
  

I must have missed it, but can someone give me Tanya's site about CRF? My 
beloved Manny cat has CRF and I want to do as much as I can for him. 

Thank you all,

Valerie
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Tanya's CRF site is awesome. It really helped me turn my renal cat around.  I 
can't access my list of things to feed when cats refuse to eat right now.  Off 
the top of my head: a plain McDonald's hamburger patty, all meat baby food, 
boiled chicken, cheese, lunchmeat, smelly fish food.. I am just learning 
about Felv.  My prior experience with cat issues is with diabetes and renal 
failure.  Sending you good thoughts.  Holly



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Sent: Tue, Feb 7, 2012 1:30 am
Subject: [Felvtalk] News about Ginger


My vet ordered Interferon and Cyproheptadine. The vet suspects leukemia is 
already in  kitty's bone marrow. Ginger kitty refuses to eat his food but tried 
to eat his cat litter last night. What should I do? Euthanasia? I can't see my 
darling suffer like this! Marinda 
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[Felvtalk] Smokey

2012-02-07 Thread cindy reasoner
It has been a very long time since I have posted anything.  I first found this 
site when my Smokey tested positive for feline leukemia.  He had a hard time at 
the beginning with fevers but we finally got that under control.  He has gone 
over 6 years with no problems or sickness.  The other day I felt a very large 
knot on his left front leg.  I took him to the vet to get it checked out.  He 
thought it was probably cancer.  He removed it today but he couldn't get all of 
it.  He described it as having tenticles going in all different directions.  He 
is sending it off to be sure it is cancer and what type.  I have never dealt 
with this before and Smokey's outlook seems pretty grave.  Any opinions would 
be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

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Re: [Felvtalk] Smokey

2012-02-07 Thread john pollack
no opinions, just prayers for Smokey



 From: cindy reasoner reasoner37...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2012 4:11 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Smokey
 
It has been a very long time since I have posted anything.  I first found this 
site when my Smokey tested positive for feline leukemia.  He had a hard time at 
the beginning with fevers but we finally got that under control.  He has gone 
over 6 years with no problems or sickness.  The other day I felt a very large 
knot on his left front leg.  I took him to the vet to get it checked out.  He 
thought it was probably cancer.  He removed it today but he couldn't get all of 
it.  He described it as having tenticles going in all different directions.  He 
is sending it off to be sure it is cancer and what type.  I have never dealt 
with this before and Smokey's outlook seems pretty grave.  Any opinions would 
be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

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Re: [Felvtalk] Smokey

2012-02-07 Thread Beth
Cindy -

So sorry to hear about Smokey.  I have a friend who had this with her dog. She 
had the 1st tumor removed, but it kept spreading. She just kept him going as 
long as he was still happy  not suffering.
Give him lots of love. He has done remarkable living this long with this awful 
virus.

Beth

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 From: cindy reasoner reasoner37...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2012 4:11 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Smokey
 
It has been a very long time since I have posted anything.  I first found this 
site when my Smokey tested positive for feline leukemia.  He had a hard time at 
the beginning with fevers but we finally got that under control.  He has gone 
over 6 years with no problems or sickness.  The other day I felt a very large 
knot on his left front leg.  I took him to the vet to get it checked out.  He 
thought it was probably cancer.  He removed it today but he couldn't get all of 
it.  He described it as having tenticles going in all different directions.  He 
is sending it off to be sure it is cancer and what type.  I have never dealt 
with this before and Smokey's outlook seems pretty grave.  Any opinions would 
be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

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Re: [Felvtalk] Smokey

2012-02-07 Thread GRAS
If it had tentacles, it could be squamous cell cancer

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of cindy reasoner
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 4:12 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Smokey

It has been a very long time since I have posted anything.  I first found
this site when my Smokey tested positive for feline leukemia.  He had a hard
time at the beginning with fevers but we finally got that under control.  He
has gone over 6 years with no problems or sickness.  The other day I felt a
very large knot on his left front leg.  I took him to the vet to get it
checked out.  He thought it was probably cancer.  He removed it today but he
couldn't get all of it.  He described it as having tenticles going in all
different directions.  He is sending it off to be sure it is cancer and what
type.  I have never dealt with this before and Smokey's outlook seems pretty
grave.  Any opinions would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

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Re: [Felvtalk] Smokey

2012-02-07 Thread GRAS
Would anyone with a cat or dog that has had cancer removed be interested in
a black salve that would get to the rest of the tentacles that the vet may
not have been able to remove? It's not expensive, but you would have to join
a group where you would get advice from people who have used it and lots of
moral support, too.  It is for people and animals.there's also an herbal
tonic for cancer, you get the herbs, brew up the tonic, etc. REALLY WORKS!
In cases after surgery, the salve would be able to reach the interior
through the incisions.

Natalie

 

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 4:50 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Smokey

 

Cindy -

 

So sorry to hear about Smokey.  I have a friend who had this with her dog.
She had the 1st tumor removed, but it kept spreading. She just kept him
going as long as he was still happy  not suffering.

Give him lots of love. He has done remarkable living this long with this
awful virus.

 

Beth

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From: cindy reasoner reasoner37...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2012 4:11 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Smokey


It has been a very long time since I have posted anything.  I first found
this site when my Smokey tested positive for feline leukemia.  He had a hard
time at the beginning with fevers but we finally got that under control.  He
has gone over 6 years with no problems or sickness.  The other day I felt a
very large knot on his left front leg.  I took him to the vet to get it
checked out.  He thought it was probably cancer.  He removed it today but he
couldn't get all of it.  He described it as having tenticles going in all
different directions.  He is sending it off to be sure it is cancer and what
type.  I have never dealt with this before and Smokey's outlook seems pretty
grave.  Any opinions would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

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Re: [Felvtalk] Smokey

2012-02-07 Thread Maureen Olvey

Depending on how far it has spread and whether it has metatisized, amputating 
the leg might be an option.  Cats and dogs do great on three legs.  We had a 
cat in our rescue recently who had to have her leg removed all the way up like 
to the hip.  They didn't leave a nub or anything.  Looked like she had never 
bee born with a leg.  Kind of weird looking but you couldn't tell the 
difference at all in how she acted and played.  Actually she had had some pain 
in her leg before they removed it so once it was gone then she felt even better 
and became more playful.  Like I said, it may not be possible for various 
reasons but if the vet says it would work and it's the only thing that would 
get rid of the cancer then I would go for it. 

“I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain

Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 13:50:02 -0800
From: create_me_...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Smokey

Cindy -
So sorry to hear about Smokey.  I have a friend who had this with her dog. She 
had the 1st tumor removed, but it kept spreading. She just kept him going as 
long as he was still happy  not suffering.Give him lots of love. He has done 
remarkable living this long with this awful virus.
Beth
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From: cindy reasoner reasoner37...@yahoo.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
 Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2012 4:11 PM
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Smokey
   

It has been a very long time since I have posted anything.  I first found this 
site when my Smokey tested positive for feline leukemia.  He had a hard time at 
the beginning with fevers but we finally got that under control.  He has gone 
over 6 years with no problems or sickness.  The other day I felt a very large 
knot on his left front leg.  I took him to the vet to get it checked out.  He 
thought it was probably cancer.  He removed it today but he couldn't get all of 
it.  He described it as having tenticles going in all different directions.  He 
is sending it off to be sure it is cancer and what type.  I have never dealt 
with this before and Smokey's outlook seems pretty grave.  Any opinions would 
be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

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Re: [Felvtalk] Smokey

2012-02-07 Thread Maureen Olvey

From my limited amount of experience with this black salve and tonic, I would 
recommend it.  I wouldn't hesitate to try it again on any of my animals that 
had cancer.

“I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain

Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 17:42:29 -0500
From: g...@optonline.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Smokey



Would anyone with a cat or dog that has had cancer removed be interested in a 
black salve that would get to the rest of the tentacles that the vet may not 
have been able to remove? It’s not expensive, but you would have to join a 
group where you would get advice from people who have used it and lots of moral 
support, too.  It is for people and animals…there’s also an herbal tonic for 
cancer, you get the herbs, brew up the tonic, etc. REALLY WORKS!  In cases 
after surgery, the salve would be able to reach the interior through the 
incisions.Natalie From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 4:50 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Smokey Cindy - So sorry to hear about Smokey.  I have a 
friend who had this with her dog. She had the 1st tumor removed, but it kept 
spreading. She just kept him going as long as he was still happy  not 
suffering.Give him lots of love. He has done remarkable living this long with 
this awful virus. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org  From: 
cindy reasoner reasoner37...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2012 4:11 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Smokey
It has been a very long time since I have posted anything.  I first found this 
site when my Smokey tested positive for feline leukemia.  He had a hard time at 
the beginning with fevers but we finally got that under control.  He has gone 
over 6 years with no problems or sickness.  The other day I felt a very large 
knot on his left front leg.  I took him to the vet to get it checked out.  He 
thought it was probably cancer.  He removed it today but he couldn't get all of 
it.  He described it as having tenticles going in all different directions.  He 
is sending it off to be sure it is cancer and what type.  I have never dealt 
with this before and Smokey's outlook seems pretty grave.  Any opinions would 
be greatly appreciated.

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Re: [Felvtalk] Ginger; virus in bone marrow

2012-02-07 Thread Maureen Olvey

I'm a little confused.  I thought the FeLV virus gets into the bone marrow of 
every cat that is not able to extinguish the virus.  The virus gets into the 
blood stream then progresses to the bone marrow.  From there the virus will 
replicate in the white blood cells and the cat will stay persistantly viremic 
or it will become dormant in the bone marrow.  The bone marrow is where the 
virus resides in every positive cat isn't it?

“I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain

Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 12:06:02 -0800
From: marta.gas...@yahoo.com
To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Ginger; virus in bone marrow

.. I want to tell you what hapenned to us with our FeLV+ Jourdan. On Thurs vet 
though virus was in the bone marrow. Sat she was very poor but she was holding 
her own. By Mon one of her eyes looked very strange so I went to get things 
ready to get her to vet, drove her there, less than 10 mts. We got her out of 
carrier, set on table, when vet came in she reared her head up and stared at 
them. Both her eyes were completly white, looked like something out of a horror 
movie. Vet said the virus would have gotten in her brain and made her blind, 
she was in lots of pain so we helped her along. But did I wish I had done it 
before..
I'm not saying same will happen to Ginger but we don't know. If virus is in the 
bone marrow it is very bad and she's really suffering. Whatever you do will be 
the best decision
Sending a big hug
Marta
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Smokey

2012-02-07 Thread dlgegg
What is the name of the salve and tonic?  Would like to have some on hand just 
in case.

 Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com wrote: 
 
 From my limited amount of experience with this black salve and tonic, I would 
 recommend it.  I wouldn't hesitate to try it again on any of my animals that 
 had cancer.
 
 “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
 profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
 unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
 sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain
 
 Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 17:42:29 -0500
 From: g...@optonline.net
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Smokey
 
 
 
 Would anyone with a cat or dog that has had cancer removed be interested in a 
 black salve that would get to the rest of the tentacles that the vet may not 
 have been able to remove? It’s not expensive, but you would have to join a 
 group where you would get advice from people who have used it and lots of 
 moral support, too.  It is for people and animals…there’s also an herbal 
 tonic for cancer, you get the herbs, brew up the tonic, etc. REALLY WORKS!  
 In cases after surgery, the salve would be able to reach the interior through 
 the incisions.Natalie From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth
 Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 4:50 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Smokey Cindy - So sorry to hear about Smokey.  I have 
 a friend who had this with her dog. She had the 1st tumor removed, but it 
 kept spreading. She just kept him going as long as he was still happy  not 
 suffering.Give him lots of love. He has done remarkable living this long with 
 this awful virus. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org  From: 
 cindy reasoner reasoner37...@yahoo.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
 Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2012 4:11 PM
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Smokey
 It has been a very long time since I have posted anything.  I first found 
 this site when my Smokey tested positive for feline leukemia.  He had a hard 
 time at the beginning with fevers but we finally got that under control.  He 
 has gone over 6 years with no problems or sickness.  The other day I felt a 
 very large knot on his left front leg.  I took him to the vet to get it 
 checked out.  He thought it was probably cancer.  He removed it today but he 
 couldn't get all of it.  He described it as having tenticles going in all 
 different directions.  He is sending it off to be sure it is cancer and what 
 type.  I have never dealt with this before and Smokey's outlook seems pretty 
 grave.  Any opinions would be greatly appreciated.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Cindy
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Smokey

2012-02-07 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
I was going to try out Dr. Sam Chachoua's serum when my cat died the day it
was being shipped.   You can watch his lecture and decide for yourself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNoT8lb3aIs   If yes, I can send you
contacts.

However, even if you could get a reduced fee through Dr. Sam's foundation,
the leg amputation would be a lot less expensive.


On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 12:11 PM, cindy reasoner reasoner37...@yahoo.comwrote:

 It has been a very long time since I have posted anything.  I first found
 this site when my Smokey tested positive for feline leukemia.  He had a
 hard time at the beginning with fevers but we finally got that under
 control.  He has gone over 6 years with no problems or sickness.  The other
 day I felt a very large knot on his left front leg.  I took him to the vet
 to get it checked out.  He thought it was probably cancer.  He removed it
 today but he couldn't get all of it.  He described it as having tenticles
 going in all different directions.  He is sending it off to be sure it is
 cancer and what type.  I have never dealt with this before and Smokey's
 outlook seems pretty grave.  Any opinions would be greatly appreciated.

 Thanks,

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Re: [Felvtalk] Smokey

2012-02-07 Thread Maureen Olvey

I'll let Natalie talk to you about this since she has the most experience.  
It's not something you can get off the shelf in a store.

“I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain

 Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 19:01:30 -0600
 From: dlg...@windstream.net
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Smokey
 CC: molvey...@hotmail.com
 
 What is the name of the salve and tonic?  Would like to have some on hand 
 just in case.
 
  Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com wrote: 
  
  From my limited amount of experience with this black salve and tonic, I 
  would recommend it.  I wouldn't hesitate to try it again on any of my 
  animals that had cancer.
  
  “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
  profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
  unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
  sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark 
  Twain
  
  Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 17:42:29 -0500
  From: g...@optonline.net
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Smokey
  
  
  
  Would anyone with a cat or dog that has had cancer removed be interested in 
  a black salve that would get to the rest of the tentacles that the vet may 
  not have been able to remove? It’s not expensive, but you would have to 
  join a group where you would get advice from people who have used it and 
  lots of moral support, too.  It is for people and animals…there’s also an 
  herbal tonic for cancer, you get the herbs, brew up the tonic, etc. REALLY 
  WORKS!  In cases after surgery, the salve would be able to reach the 
  interior through the incisions.Natalie From: 
  felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
  [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth
  Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 4:50 PM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Smokey Cindy - So sorry to hear about Smokey.  I 
  have a friend who had this with her dog. She had the 1st tumor removed, but 
  it kept spreading. She just kept him going as long as he was still happy  
  not suffering.Give him lots of love. He has done remarkable living this 
  long with this awful virus. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! 
  www.Furkids.org  From: cindy reasoner reasoner37...@yahoo.com
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2012 4:11 PM
  Subject: [Felvtalk] Smokey
  It has been a very long time since I have posted anything.  I first found 
  this site when my Smokey tested positive for feline leukemia.  He had a 
  hard time at the beginning with fevers but we finally got that under 
  control.  He has gone over 6 years with no problems or sickness.  The other 
  day I felt a very large knot on his left front leg.  I took him to the vet 
  to get it checked out.  He thought it was probably cancer.  He removed it 
  today but he couldn't get all of it.  He described it as having tenticles 
  going in all different directions.  He is sending it off to be sure it is 
  cancer and what type.  I have never dealt with this before and Smokey's 
  outlook seems pretty grave.  Any opinions would be greatly appreciated.
  
  Thanks,
  
  Cindy
  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Tanya's CRF Site

2012-02-07 Thread dlgegg
Instead of water dishes, try a water fountain.  My Homey has recurring bouts of 
sturvite crystals and we can't find any medical reason for it.  I had 1 water 
fountain in the kitchen and got another for my bath since everyone comes into 
my bedroom at night.  We like my memory foam mattress and the electric blanket. 
 I have noticed that everyone drinks more water since the fountains.  They are 
attracted by the sound and everyone has adifferent part of the water slide to 
drink from.  I also added a bit of organic (cloudy) cidar vinegar.  Someone in 
the group recommended it for the crystals.  I also started Homey on cranberry 
paste.  She does not like it, but I can put it on my finger an stick it in her 
mouth.  So far she has not bitten me but leads a merry chase around the house 
when she sees me coming.  Also, so far she has not had anothr bout with the 
crystals.

 Val Green harpestry...@aol.com wrote: 
 Thanks, Natalie and all who responded. I've got Manny on prescription K/D dry 
 food, baby food meats and lots of water dishes all over the house. He's 
 probably close to 15 years old and has had CRF for several years. He's put on 
 some weight recently and I'm hopeful he'll be around a few more years. Lots 
 of love from this sweet, black cat!
 
 Valerie
 
 On Feb 7, 2012, at 12:10 PM, GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote:
 
  Here it is:
  
  http://www.felinecrf.org/
  
   
  
  I am dealing with CRF on a continuous basis, and treatment depends on the 
  levels of creatinine, BUN, phosphorus, etc.
  
  I use aluminum hydroxide, Pepcid AC, sub=q fluids, special diets, and 
  whatever the vet tells me depending on test results.
  
  Natalie
  
   
  
  From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
  [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Chris Macke
  Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 12:50 PM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tanya's CRF Site
  
   
  
  Just google Tanya's CRF site and it will come right up
  
  - Original Message -
  
  From: Val Green
  
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  
  Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 12:44 PM
  
  Subject: [Felvtalk] Tanya's CRF Site
  
   
  
  I must have missed it, but can someone give me Tanya's site about CRF? My 
  beloved Manny cat has CRF and I want to do as much as I can for him. 
  
   
  
  Thank you all,
  
   
  
  Valerie
  On Feb 7, 2012, at 9:57 AM, Holly Shelton hsshel...@aol.com wrote:
  
  Tanya's CRF site is awesome. It really helped me turn my renal cat around.  
  I can't access my list of things to feed when cats refuse to eat right now. 
   Off the top of my head: a plain McDonald's hamburger patty, all meat baby 
  food, boiled chicken, cheese, lunchmeat, smelly fish food.. I am just 
  learning about Felv.  My prior experience with cat issues is with diabetes 
  and renal failure.  Sending you good thoughts.  Holl font
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: botha.marinda4 botha.marin...@gmail.com
  To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Sent: Tue, Feb 7, 2012 1:30 am
  Subject: [Felvtalk] News about Ginger
  
  My vet ordered Interferon and Cyproheptadine. The vet suspects leukemia is 
  already in  kitty's bone marrow. Ginger kitty refuses to eat his food but 
  tried 
  to eat his cat litter last night. What should I do? Euthanasia? I can't see 
  my 
  darling suffer like this! Marinda 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Tanya's CRF Site

2012-02-07 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
Has anyone tried the suggestions on http://www.holisticat.com/crf.html ?
Seems  very treatable this way.

Also, people in Los Angeles are gushing about Renavast: http://renavast.com



On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 9:10 AM, GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote:

 Here it is:

 http://www.felinecrf.org/ 

 ** **

 I am dealing with CRF on a continuous basis, and treatment depends on the
 levels of creatinine, BUN, phosphorus, etc.

 I use aluminum hydroxide, Pepcid AC, sub=q fluids, special diets, and
 whatever the vet tells me depending on test results.

 Natalie

 ** **

 *From:* felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:
 felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf Of *Chris Macke
 *Sent:* Tuesday, February 07, 2012 12:50 PM
 *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Tanya's CRF Site

 ** **

 Just google Tanya's CRF site and it will come right up

 - Original Message - 

 *From:* Val Green harpestry...@aol.com 

 *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 

 *Sent:* Tuesday, February 07, 2012 12:44 PM

 *Subject:* [Felvtalk] Tanya's CRF Site

 ** **

 I must have missed it, but can someone give me Tanya's site about CRF? My
 beloved Manny cat has CRF and I want to do as much as I can for him. 

 ** **

 Thank you all,

 ** **

 Valerie
 On Feb 7, 2012, at 9:57 AM, Holly Shelton hsshel...@aol.com wrote:

 Tanya's CRF site is awesome. It really helped me turn my renal cat around.
  I can't access my list of things to feed when cats refuse to eat right
 now.  Off the top of my head: a plain McDonald's hamburger patty, all meat
 baby food, boiled chicken, cheese, lunchmeat, smelly fish food.. I am
 just learning about Felv.  My prior experience with cat issues is with
 diabetes and renal failure.  Sending you good thoughts.  Holl font

 

 -Original Message-
 From: botha.marinda4 botha.marin...@gmail.com
 To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Tue, Feb 7, 2012 1:30 am
 Subject: [Felvtalk] News about Ginger

 My vet ordered Interferon and Cyproheptadine. The vet suspects leukemia is 
 

 already in  kitty's bone marrow. Ginger kitty refuses to eat his food but 
 tried 

 to eat his cat litter last night. What should I do? Euthanasia? I can't see 
 my 

 darling suffer like this! Marinda 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Tanya's CRF Site

2012-02-07 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
There are some who believe dry food causes CRF, so you may want to research
more on this.   Try the Holisticat.com site and Googling for other folks.


On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 9:59 AM, Val Green harpestry...@aol.com wrote:

 Thanks, Natalie and all who responded. I've got Manny on prescription K/D
 dry food, baby food meats and lots of water dishes all over the house. He's
 probably close to 15 years old and has had CRF for several years. He's put
 on some weight recently and I'm hopeful he'll be around a few more years.
 Lots of love from this sweet, black cat!

 Valerie


 On Feb 7, 2012, at 12:10 PM, GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote:

 Here it is:

 http://www.felinecrf.org/http://www.felinecrf.org/ 

 ** **

 I am dealing with CRF on a continuous basis, and treatment depends on the
 levels of creatinine, BUN, phosphorus, etc.

 I use aluminum hydroxide, Pepcid AC, sub=q fluids, special diets, and
 whatever the vet tells me depending on test results.

 Natalie

 ** **

 *From:* felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:
 felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf Of *Chris Macke
 *Sent:* Tuesday, February 07, 2012 12:50 PM
 *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgfelvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Tanya's CRF Site

 ** **

 Just google Tanya's CRF site and it will come right up

 - Original Message - 

 *From:* Val Green harpestry...@aol.com 

 *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgfelvtalk@felineleukemia.org 

 *Sent:* Tuesday, February 07, 2012 12:44 PM

 *Subject:* [Felvtalk] Tanya's CRF Site

 ** **

 I must have missed it, but can someone give me Tanya's site about CRF? My
 beloved Manny cat has CRF and I want to do as much as I can for him. 

 ** **

 Thank you all,

 ** **

 Valerie
 On Feb 7, 2012, at 9:57 AM, Holly Shelton  hsshel...@aol.com
 hsshel...@aol.com wrote:

 Tanya's CRF site is awesome. It really helped me turn my renal cat around.
  I can't access my list of things to feed when cats refuse to eat right
 now.  Off the top of my head: a plain McDonald's hamburger patty, all meat
 baby food, boiled chicken, cheese, lunchmeat, smelly fish food.. I am
 just learning about Felv.  My prior experience with cat issues is with
 diabetes and renal failure.  Sending you good thoughts.  Holl font

 

 -Original Message-
 From: botha.marinda4  botha.marin...@gmail.combotha.marin...@gmail.com
 To: felvtalk  felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgfelvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Tue, Feb 7, 2012 1:30 am
 Subject: [Felvtalk] News about Ginger

 My vet ordered Interferon and Cyproheptadine. The vet suspects leukemia is 
 

 already in  kitty's bone marrow. Ginger kitty refuses to eat his food but 
 tried 

 to eat his cat litter last night. What should I do? Euthanasia? I can't see 
 my 

 darling suffer like this! Marinda 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Tanya's CRF Site

2012-02-07 Thread MaiMaiPG
One of my vets tells of cats who drink local city water who develop  
this problem.  My guys all drink bottled spring or distilled water  
because we travel and it is easier to do the bottles than to change  
from one city water to another (yes, there is a difference...big time).


On Feb 7, 2012, at 8:01 PM, dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net 
 wrote:


Instead of water dishes, try a water fountain.  My Homey has  
recurring bouts of sturvite crystals and we can't find any medical  
reason for it.  I had 1 water fountain in the kitchen and got  
another for my bath since everyone comes into my bedroom at night.   
We like my memory foam mattress and the electric blanket.  I have  
noticed that everyone drinks more water since the fountains.  They  
are attracted by the sound and everyone has adifferent part of the  
water slide to drink from.  I also added a bit of organic (cloudy)  
cidar vinegar.  Someone in the group recommended it for the  
crystals.  I also started Homey on cranberry paste.  She does not  
like it, but I can put it on my finger an stick it in her mouth.  So  
far she has not bitten me but leads a merry chase around the house  
when she sees me coming.  Also, so far she has not had anothr bout  
with the crystals.


 Val Green harpestry...@aol.com wrote:
Thanks, Natalie and all who responded. I've got Manny on  
prescription K/D dry food, baby food meats and lots of water dishes  
all over the house. He's probably close to 15 years old and has had  
CRF for several years. He's put on some weight recently and I'm  
hopeful he'll be around a few more years. Lots of love from this  
sweet, black cat!


Valerie

On Feb 7, 2012, at 12:10 PM, GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote:


Here it is:

http://www.felinecrf.org/



I am dealing with CRF on a continuous basis, and treatment depends  
on the levels of creatinine, BUN, phosphorus, etc.


I use aluminum hydroxide, Pepcid AC, sub=q fluids, special diets,  
and whatever the vet tells me depending on test results.


Natalie



From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
] On Behalf Of Chris Macke

Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 12:50 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tanya's CRF Site



Just google Tanya's CRF site and it will come right up

- Original Message -

From: Val Green

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 12:44 PM

Subject: [Felvtalk] Tanya's CRF Site



I must have missed it, but can someone give me Tanya's site about  
CRF? My beloved Manny cat has CRF and I want to do as much as I  
can for him.




Thank you all,



Valerie
On Feb 7, 2012, at 9:57 AM, Holly Shelton hsshel...@aol.com wrote:

Tanya's CRF site is awesome. It really helped me turn my renal cat  
around.  I can't access my list of things to feed when cats refuse  
to eat right now.  Off the top of my head: a plain McDonald's  
hamburger patty, all meat baby food, boiled chicken, cheese,  
lunchmeat, smelly fish food.. I am just learning about Felv.   
My prior experience with cat issues is with diabetes and renal  
failure.  Sending you good thoughts.  Holl font



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From: botha.marinda4 botha.marin...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tue, Feb 7, 2012 1:30 am
Subject: [Felvtalk] News about Ginger

My vet ordered Interferon and Cyproheptadine. The vet suspects  
leukemia is
already in  kitty's bone marrow. Ginger kitty refuses to eat his  
food but tried
to eat his cat litter last night. What should I do? Euthanasia? I  
can't see my

darling suffer like this! Marinda
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Re: [Felvtalk] Ginger; virus in bone marrow

2012-02-07 Thread GRAS
I believe that when the IFA test becomes positive, the virus has gotten into
the bone marrow.

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 7:51 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Ginger; virus in bone marrow

 

I'm a little confused.  I thought the FeLV virus gets into the bone marrow
of every cat that is not able to extinguish the virus.  The virus gets into
the blood stream then progresses to the bone marrow.  From there the virus
will replicate in the white blood cells and the cat will stay persistantly
viremic or it will become dormant in the bone marrow.  The bone marrow is
where the virus resides in every positive cat isn't it?

I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are
profitable to the human race or doesn't..the pain which it inflicts upon
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me
sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further. - Mark
Twain

  _  

Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 12:06:02 -0800
From: marta.gas...@yahoo.com
To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Ginger; virus in bone marrow


.. I want to tell you what hapenned to us with our FeLV+ Jourdan. On Thurs
vet though virus was in the bone marrow. Sat she was very poor but she was
holding her own. By Mon one of her eyes looked very strange so I went to get
things ready to get her to vet, drove her there, less than 10 mts. We got
her out of carrier, set on table, when vet came in she reared her head up
and stared at them. Both her eyes were completly white, looked like
something out of a horror movie. Vet said the virus would have gotten in her
brain and made her blind, she was in lots of pain so we helped her along.
But did I wish I had done it before..

I'm not saying same will happen to Ginger but we don't know. If virus is in
the bone marrow it is very bad and she's really suffering. Whatever you do
will be the best decision

Sending a big hug

Marta

 

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Re: [Felvtalk] News about Ginger

2012-02-07 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
What kind of litter?

On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 6:14 AM, Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Eating litter is a classic sign of severe anemia. Most of my FeLV's died
 from anemia. At this point it's probably too late for interferon. That is a
 good preventative to boost the immune system, but it takes a while to start
 working.
 I euthanized all mine at the point they started eating litter, but that is
 a choice that only you can make.
 My thought are with you  your baby. I know how hard it is to see them
 suffer.
 Beth
 Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org http://www.furkids.org/


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 *Subject:* [Felvtalk] News about Ginger

 My vet ordered Interferon and Cyproheptadine. The vet suspects leukemia is
 already in  kitty's bone marrow. Ginger kitty refuses to eat his food but
 tried to eat his cat litter last night. What should I do? Euthanasia? I
 can't see my darling suffer like this! Marinda
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Re: [Felvtalk] Tanya's CRF Site

2012-02-07 Thread Holly Shelton
Dry food isn't great for a renal cat. KD isn't the best either.  I fed my 
Spader wet food with lower phosphorus levels.  All of the Friskies Special Diet 
foods and even the Fancy Feast Chicken and Tuna.
I stayed around 230-240 in the phos level on these great charts: 
http://binkyspage.tripod.com/CanFoodNew.html


Holly


-Original Message-
From: Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:11 pm
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tanya's CRF Site


There are some who believe dry food causes CRF, so you may want to research 
more on this.   Try the Holisticat.com site and Googling for other folks.



On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 9:59 AM, Val Green harpestry...@aol.com wrote:


Thanks, Natalie and all who responded. I've got Manny on prescription K/D dry 
food, baby food meats and lots of water dishes all over the house. He's 
probably close to 15 years old and has had CRF for several years. He's put on 
some weight recently and I'm hopeful he'll be around a few more years. Lots of 
love from this sweet, black cat!


Valerie



On Feb 7, 2012, at 12:10 PM, GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote:








Here it is:
http://www.felinecrf.org/ 
 
I am dealing with CRF on a continuous basis, and treatment depends on the 
levels of creatinine, BUN, phosphorus, etc.
I use aluminum hydroxide, Pepcid AC, sub=q fluids, special diets, and whatever 
the vet tells me depending on test results.
Natalie
 

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Chris Macke
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 12:50 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tanya's CRF Site

 

Just google Tanya's CRF site and it will come right up


- Original Message - 

From: Val Green 

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 

Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 12:44 PM

Subject: [Felvtalk] Tanya's CRF Site

 

I must have missed it, but can someone give me Tanya's site about CRF? My 
beloved Manny cat has CRF and I want to do as much as I can for him. 

 

Thank you all,

 

Valerie
On Feb 7, 2012, at 9:57 AM, Holly Shelton hsshel...@aol.com wrote:


Tanya's CRF site is awesome. It really helped me turn my renal cat around.  I 
can't access my list of things to feed when cats refuse to eat right now.  Off 
the top of my head: a plain McDonald's hamburger patty, all meat baby food, 
boiled chicken, cheese, lunchmeat, smelly fish food.. I am just learning 
about Felv.  My prior experience with cat issues is with diabetes and renal 
failure.  Sending you good thoughts.  Holl font



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From: botha.marinda4 botha.marin...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tue, Feb 7, 2012 1:30 am
Subject: [Felvtalk] News about Ginger

My vet ordered Interferon and Cyproheptadine. The vet suspects leukemia is 
already in  kitty's bone marrow. Ginger kitty refuses to eat his food but tried 
to eat his cat litter last night. What should I do? Euthanasia? I can't see my 
darling suffer like this! Marinda 
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