Re: [Felvtalk] Tanya's CRF Site
The Holisticat.com folks suggest eggshell powder as a Phos binder. On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 8:30 PM, Holly Shelton hsshel...@aol.com wrote: Dry food isn't great for a renal cat. KD isn't the best either. I fed my Spader wet food with lower phosphorus levels. All of the Friskies Special Diet foods and even the Fancy Feast Chicken and Tuna. I stayed around 230-240 in the phos level on these great charts: http://binkyspage.tripod.com/CanFoodNew.html Holly -Original Message- From: Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:11 pm Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tanya's CRF Site There are some who believe dry food causes CRF, so you may want to research more on this. Try the Holisticat.com site and Googling for other folks. On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 9:59 AM, Val Green harpestry...@aol.com wrote: Thanks, Natalie and all who responded. I've got Manny on prescription K/D dry food, baby food meats and lots of water dishes all over the house. He's probably close to 15 years old and has had CRF for several years. He's put on some weight recently and I'm hopeful he'll be around a few more years. Lots of love from this sweet, black cat! Valerie On Feb 7, 2012, at 12:10 PM, GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote: Here it is: http://www.felinecrf.org/http://www.felinecrf.org/ ** ** I am dealing with CRF on a continuous basis, and treatment depends on the levels of creatinine, BUN, phosphorus, etc. I use aluminum hydroxide, Pepcid AC, sub=q fluids, special diets, and whatever the vet tells me depending on test results. Natalie ** ** *From:* felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf Of *Chris Macke *Sent:* Tuesday, February 07, 2012 12:50 PM *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgfelvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Tanya's CRF Site ** ** Just google Tanya's CRF site and it will come right up - Original Message - *From:* Val Green harpestry...@aol.com *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgfelvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Sent:* Tuesday, February 07, 2012 12:44 PM *Subject:* [Felvtalk] Tanya's CRF Site ** ** I must have missed it, but can someone give me Tanya's site about CRF? My beloved Manny cat has CRF and I want to do as much as I can for him. * *** ** ** Thank you all, ** ** Valerie On Feb 7, 2012, at 9:57 AM, Holly Shelton hsshel...@aol.com hsshel...@aol.com wrote: Tanya's CRF site is awesome. It really helped me turn my renal cat around. I can't access my list of things to feed when cats refuse to eat right now. Off the top of my head: a plain McDonald's hamburger patty, all meat baby food, boiled chicken, cheese, lunchmeat, smelly fish food.. I am just learning about Felv. My prior experience with cat issues is with diabetes and renal failure. Sending you good thoughts. Holl font -Original Message- From: botha.marinda4 botha.marin...@gmail.combotha.marin...@gmail.com To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgfelvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tue, Feb 7, 2012 1:30 am Subject: [Felvtalk] News about Ginger My vet ordered Interferon and Cyproheptadine. The vet suspects leukemia is already in kitty's bone marrow. Ginger kitty refuses to eat his food but tried to eat his cat litter last night. What should I do? Euthanasia? I can't see my darling suffer like this! Marinda Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! ** ** ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgFelvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.orghttp://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgFelvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org*** * -- ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgFelvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org*** * ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Go Get a Life---Go Get a Shelter Animal! Ask your local animal pound to start
Re: [Felvtalk] Tanya's CRF Site
Apple cider vinegar, unpasteurized...and Vitamin C, too. The water fountain should be stainless steel, not plastic. I just ordered another one, on sale. I'll find the site, and pass it on later. Does Manny like to drink from a faucet at all? Sub-q fluids can add years to their liveseasy to do. Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dlg...@windstream.net Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 9:01 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tanya's CRF Site Instead of water dishes, try a water fountain. My Homey has recurring bouts of sturvite crystals and we can't find any medical reason for it. I had 1 water fountain in the kitchen and got another for my bath since everyone comes into my bedroom at night. We like my memory foam mattress and the electric blanket. I have noticed that everyone drinks more water since the fountains. They are attracted by the sound and everyone has adifferent part of the water slide to drink from. I also added a bit of organic (cloudy) cidar vinegar. Someone in the group recommended it for the crystals. I also started Homey on cranberry paste. She does not like it, but I can put it on my finger an stick it in her mouth. So far she has not bitten me but leads a merry chase around the house when she sees me coming. Also, so far she has not had anothr bout with the crystals. Val Green harpestry...@aol.com wrote: Thanks, Natalie and all who responded. I've got Manny on prescription K/D dry food, baby food meats and lots of water dishes all over the house. He's probably close to 15 years old and has had CRF for several years. He's put on some weight recently and I'm hopeful he'll be around a few more years. Lots of love from this sweet, black cat! Valerie On Feb 7, 2012, at 12:10 PM, GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote: Here it is: http://www.felinecrf.org/ I am dealing with CRF on a continuous basis, and treatment depends on the levels of creatinine, BUN, phosphorus, etc. I use aluminum hydroxide, Pepcid AC, sub=q fluids, special diets, and whatever the vet tells me depending on test results. Natalie From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Chris Macke Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 12:50 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tanya's CRF Site Just google Tanya's CRF site and it will come right up - Original Message - From: Val Green To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 12:44 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Tanya's CRF Site I must have missed it, but can someone give me Tanya's site about CRF? My beloved Manny cat has CRF and I want to do as much as I can for him. Thank you all, Valerie On Feb 7, 2012, at 9:57 AM, Holly Shelton hsshel...@aol.com wrote: Tanya's CRF site is awesome. It really helped me turn my renal cat around. I can't access my list of things to feed when cats refuse to eat right now. Off the top of my head: a plain McDonald's hamburger patty, all meat baby food, boiled chicken, cheese, lunchmeat, smelly fish food.. I am just learning about Felv. My prior experience with cat issues is with diabetes and renal failure. Sending you good thoughts. Holl font -Original Message- From: botha.marinda4 botha.marin...@gmail.com To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tue, Feb 7, 2012 1:30 am Subject: [Felvtalk] News about Ginger My vet ordered Interferon and Cyproheptadine. The vet suspects leukemia is already in kitty's bone marrow. Ginger kitty refuses to eat his food but tried to eat his cat litter last night. What should I do? Euthanasia? I can't see my darling suffer like this! Marinda Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.o rg ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.o rg ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.o rg ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.o rg ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Tanya's CRF Site
That's why a fountain is good, too, it has a filter (but the fountain must also be cleaned often; filter replaced monthly. Chlorine not good for them. Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 9:11 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tanya's CRF Site One of my vets tells of cats who drink local city water who develop this problem. My guys all drink bottled spring or distilled water because we travel and it is easier to do the bottles than to change from one city water to another (yes, there is a difference...big time). On Feb 7, 2012, at 8:01 PM, dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net wrote: Instead of water dishes, try a water fountain. My Homey has recurring bouts of sturvite crystals and we can't find any medical reason for it. I had 1 water fountain in the kitchen and got another for my bath since everyone comes into my bedroom at night. We like my memory foam mattress and the electric blanket. I have noticed that everyone drinks more water since the fountains. They are attracted by the sound and everyone has adifferent part of the water slide to drink from. I also added a bit of organic (cloudy) cidar vinegar. Someone in the group recommended it for the crystals. I also started Homey on cranberry paste. She does not like it, but I can put it on my finger an stick it in her mouth. So far she has not bitten me but leads a merry chase around the house when she sees me coming. Also, so far she has not had anothr bout with the crystals. Val Green harpestry...@aol.com wrote: Thanks, Natalie and all who responded. I've got Manny on prescription K/D dry food, baby food meats and lots of water dishes all over the house. He's probably close to 15 years old and has had CRF for several years. He's put on some weight recently and I'm hopeful he'll be around a few more years. Lots of love from this sweet, black cat! Valerie On Feb 7, 2012, at 12:10 PM, GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote: Here it is: http://www.felinecrf.org/ I am dealing with CRF on a continuous basis, and treatment depends on the levels of creatinine, BUN, phosphorus, etc. I use aluminum hydroxide, Pepcid AC, sub=q fluids, special diets, and whatever the vet tells me depending on test results. Natalie From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org ] On Behalf Of Chris Macke Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 12:50 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tanya's CRF Site Just google Tanya's CRF site and it will come right up - Original Message - From: Val Green To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 12:44 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Tanya's CRF Site I must have missed it, but can someone give me Tanya's site about CRF? My beloved Manny cat has CRF and I want to do as much as I can for him. Thank you all, Valerie On Feb 7, 2012, at 9:57 AM, Holly Shelton hsshel...@aol.com wrote: Tanya's CRF site is awesome. It really helped me turn my renal cat around. I can't access my list of things to feed when cats refuse to eat right now. Off the top of my head: a plain McDonald's hamburger patty, all meat baby food, boiled chicken, cheese, lunchmeat, smelly fish food.. I am just learning about Felv. My prior experience with cat issues is with diabetes and renal failure. Sending you good thoughts. Holl font -Original Message- From: botha.marinda4 botha.marin...@gmail.com To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tue, Feb 7, 2012 1:30 am Subject: [Felvtalk] News about Ginger My vet ordered Interferon and Cyproheptadine. The vet suspects leukemia is already in kitty's bone marrow. Ginger kitty refuses to eat his food but tried to eat his cat litter last night. What should I do? Euthanasia? I can't see my darling suffer like this! Marinda Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.o rg ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.o rg ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.o rg ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.o rg ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Smokey
I have never heard of this black salve. Does it really help? Where can I get more information on it and the group? I should get the pathology results back in a few days. I have felt a couple of verysmall knots on other parts of his body so I am afraid it has spread. The vet did take out a couple of lymph nodes too. I just can't get over how big this one was how I could have missed it until now. The vet told me that this one will come back and he was afraid it would be pretty soon. He said there was no reason to try to remove it or any others because they would just come back. I plan on spoiling him for however long he has left. When he seems like his quality of life isn't good anymore then I will let him go. Right now he is eating and playing. He doesn't act like anything is wrong. I am so stressed out right now. I trapped a mom cat and her 2 kittens(although they are about 8 months old) and had them spayed. I found a home for the mom cat but I still have the kittens which are feral and I can't find a home for them.They came from my work so I don't know anything else to do but take them back to work and let them live there me keep feeding them. Does that sound terrible? I just can't keep them. Anybody got any ideas? I won't take them to the shelter because someonetold me they would euthanize them if they are feral. Now poor Smokey is sick. Thanks for your prayers and ideas for Smokey. I will let you know what the pathologyreport says. Cindy--- On Tue, 2/7/12, GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote: From: GRAS g...@optonline.netSubject: Re: [Felvtalk] SmokeyTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgDate: Tuesday, February 7, 2012, 4:42 PM Would anyone with a cat or dog that has had cancer removed be interested in a black salve that would get to the rest of the tentacles that the vet may not have been able to remove? It’s not expensive, but you would have to join a group where you would get advice from people who have used it and lots of moral support, too. It is for people and animals…there’s also an herbal tonic for cancer, you get the herbs, brew up the tonic, etc. REALLY WORKS! In cases after surgery, the salve would be able to reach the interior through the incisions. Natalie From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of BethSent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 4:50 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: [Felvtalk] Smokey Cindy - So sorry to hear about Smokey. I have a friend who had this with her dog. She had the 1st tumor removed, but it kept spreading. She just kept him going as long as he was still happy not suffering. Give him lots of love. He has done remarkable living this long with this awful virus. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter!www.Furkids.org From: cindy reasoner reasoner37...@yahoo.comTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2012 4:11 PMSubject: [Felvtalk] Smokey It has been a very long time since I have posted anything. I first found this site when my Smokey tested positive for feline leukemia. He had a hard time at the beginning with fevers but we finally got that under control. He has gone over 6 years with no problems or sickness. The other day I felt a very large knot on his left front leg. I took him to the vet to get it checked out. He thought it was probably cancer. He removed it today but he couldn't get all of it. He described it as having tenticles going in all different directions. He is sending it off to be sure it is cancer and what type. I have never dealt with this before and Smokey's outlook seems pretty grave. Any opinions would be greatly appreciated.Thanks,Cindy___Felvtalk mailing listFelvtalk@felineleukemia.orghttp://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org-Inline Attachment Follows- ___Felvtalk mailing listFelvtalk@felineleukemia.orghttp://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] News about Ginger
Eating clumping litter that contains sodium bentonite can be lethal because it can solidify in the intestines, if inhaled, can cause lungs to fill, can also block urethras. If the instructions on litter say “do not flush down the toilet” because it will cause blockage, it contains sodium bentonite, and will do the same to a cat. They are not required to say so on the package, why? I don’t know. Was that your question? Natalie From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kathryn Hargreaves Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 11:50 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] News about Ginger What kind of litter? On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 6:14 AM, Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote: Eating litter is a classic sign of severe anemia. Most of my FeLV's died from anemia. At this point it's probably too late for interferon. That is a good preventative to boost the immune system, but it takes a while to start working. I euthanized all mine at the point they started eating litter, but that is a choice that only you can make. My thought are with you your baby. I know how hard it is to see them suffer. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org http://www.furkids.org/ _ From: botha.marin...@gmail.com botha.marin...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2012 6:39 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] News about Ginger My vet ordered Interferon and Cyproheptadine. The vet suspects leukemia is already in kitty's bone marrow. Ginger kitty refuses to eat his food but tried to eat his cat litter last night. What should I do? Euthanasia? I can't see my darling suffer like this! Marinda Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Go Get a Life---Go Get a Shelter Animal! Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by implementing the No Kill Equation: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/ Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] FW: Tanya's CRF Site
YES, not good at all, especially for CRF patients, however, sometimes they won’t eat anything else, and something is better than nothing. One of mine will not eat K-D canned food – so I mix it half/half with another food…better that, than losing weight and dying. Natalie From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kathryn Hargreaves Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 9:10 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tanya's CRF Site There are some who believe dry food causes CRF, so you may want to research more on this. Try the Holisticat.com site and Googling for other folks. On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 9:59 AM, Val Green harpestry...@aol.com wrote: Thanks, Natalie and all who responded. I've got Manny on prescription K/D dry food, baby food meats and lots of water dishes all over the house. He's probably close to 15 years old and has had CRF for several years. He's put on some weight recently and I'm hopeful he'll be around a few more years. Lots of love from this sweet, black cat! Valerie On Feb 7, 2012, at 12:10 PM, GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote: Here it is: http://www.felinecrf.org/ I am dealing with CRF on a continuous basis, and treatment depends on the levels of creatinine, BUN, phosphorus, etc. I use aluminum hydroxide, Pepcid AC, sub=q fluids, special diets, and whatever the vet tells me depending on test results. Natalie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Smokey
You ask me to invite you to join the 2053 Googlegroup…..Once you are a member, you can look through the archives, see success stories where salve was used on people and animals, get all the info on how to get salve and where to order the herbs to make the tonic (or buy small amount from list owner). It really is miraculous – one man’s arm was saved from amputation, a horse’s eye with cancer saved, many bunny and rat owners are members because those poor little critters get cancers…. You can actually look salve and tonic online, but they are NOT the same and are much more expensive…. If you would use the salve as soon as possible, so it can still seep in through the incision, it would be ideal. It will come back if it had tentacles and it was most likely squamous cell…. I would look for someone who may have a colony of cats that are cared for by someone….the kittens would become tame, though, if given a chance! From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of cindy reasoner Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 8:28 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Smokey I have never heard of this black salve. Does it really help? Where can I get more information on it and the group? I should get the pathology results back in a few days. I have felt a couple of very small knots on other parts of his body so I am afraid it has spread. The vet did take out a couple of lymph nodes too. I just can't get over how big this one was how I could have missed it until now. The vet told me that this one will come back and he was afraid it would be pretty soon. He said there was no reason to try to remove it or any others because they would just come back. I plan on spoiling him for however long he has left. When he seems like his quality of life isn't good anymore then I will let him go. Right now he is eating and playing. He doesn't act like anything is wrong. I am so stressed out right now. I trapped a mom cat and her 2 kittens(although they are about 8 months old) and had them spayed. I found a home for the mom cat but I still have the kittens which are feral and I can't find a home for them. They came from my work so I don't know anything else to do but take them back to work and let them live there me keep feeding them. Does that sound terrible? I just can't keep them. Anybody got any ideas? I won't take them to the shelter because someone told me they would euthanize them if they are feral. Now poor Smokey is sick. Thanks for your prayers and ideas for Smokey. I will let you know what the pathology report says. Cindy --- On Tue, 2/7/12, GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote: From: GRAS g...@optonline.net Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Smokey To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, February 7, 2012, 4:42 PM Would anyone with a cat or dog that has had cancer removed be interested in a black salve that would get to the rest of the tentacles that the vet may not have been able to remove? It’s not expensive, but you would have to join a group where you would get advice from people who have used it and lots of moral support, too. It is for people and animals…there’s also an herbal tonic for cancer, you get the herbs, brew up the tonic, etc. REALLY WORKS! In cases after surgery, the salve would be able to reach the interior through the incisions. Natalie _ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] FW: Smokey
I cannot believe that almost all of my e-mails are bouncing back because they’re too big, and I have no way of knowing which ones they are because they don’t tell you – so I am resending, making sure that all previous mail was erased. From: GRAS [mailto:g...@optonline.net] Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 10:41 AM To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org' Subject: RE: [Felvtalk] Smokey You ask me to invite you to join the 2053 Googlegroup…..Once you are a member, you can look through the archives, see success stories where salve was used on people and animals, get all the info on how to get salve and where to order the herbs to make the tonic (or buy small amount from list owner). It really is miraculous – one man’s arm was saved from amputation, a horse’s eye with cancer saved, many bunny and rat owners are members because those poor little critters get cancers…. You can actually look salve and tonic online, but they are NOT the same and are much more expensive…. If you would use the salve as soon as possible, so it can still seep in through the incision, it would be ideal. It will come back if it had tentacles and it was most likely squamous cell…. I would look for someone who may have a colony of cats that are cared for by someone….the kittens would become tame, though, if given a chance! From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of cindy reasoner Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 8:28 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Smokey I have never heard of this black salve. Does it really help? Where can I get more information on it and the group? I should get the pathology results back in a few days. _ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] FW: Smokey
Something’s wrong, this message was in no way 30 KB….(20 is the limit) I am resending without the bottom portion. From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of GRAS Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 10:41 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Smokey You ask me to invite you to join the 2053 Googlegroup…..Once you are a member, you can look through the archives, see success stories where salve was used on people and animals, get all the info on how to get salve and where to order the herbs to make the tonic (or buy small amount from list owner). It really is miraculous – one man’s arm was saved from amputation, a horse’s eye with cancer saved, many bunny and rat owners are members because those poor little critters get cancers…. You can actually look salve and tonic online, but they are NOT the same and are much more expensive…. If you would use the salve as soon as possible, so it can still seep in through the incision, it would be ideal. It will come back if it had tentacles and it was most likely squamous cell…. I would look for someone who may have a colony of cats that are cared for by someone….the kittens would become tame, though, if given a chance! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] FW: FW: Tanya's CRF Site
This was 23 KB, am erasing bottom and resending. This is very annoying – why do they have a such a tiny limit in this group? From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of GRAS YES, not good at all, especially for CRF patients, however, sometimes they won’t eat anything else, and something is better than nothing. One of mine will not eat K-D canned food – so I mix it half/half with another food…better that, than losing weight and dying. Natalie From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kathryn Hargreaves There are some who believe dry food causes CRF, so you may want to research more on this. Try the Holisticat.com site and Googling for other folks. On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 9:59 AM, Val Green harpestry...@aol.com wrote: Thanks, Natalie and all who responded. I've got Manny on prescription K/D dry food, baby food meats and lots of water dishes all over the house. He's probably close to 15 years old and has had CRF for several years. He's put on some weight recently and I'm hopeful he'll be around a few more years. Lots of love from this sweet, black cat! Valerie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FW: FW: Tanya's CRF Site
Oh and Spader was on aluminum hydroxide as a phos binder. It really helped. I have a word doc with all sorts of CRF links that I can email anyone who wants it. I put it together to help people. Also as an aside, I train people on giving fluids and the tips to give a cat a longer life. I also talk to local vets about what I did to change Spader's CRF and FD turned around. I am working 14 hour days and I may not be checking tis email more than a couple of times a day. Holly -Original Message- From: GRAS g...@optonline.net To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wed, Feb 8, 2012 8:12 am Subject: [Felvtalk] FW: FW: Tanya's CRF Site This was 23 KB, am erasing bottom and resending. This is very annoying – why do they have a such a tiny limit in this group? From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of GRAS YES, not good at all, especially for CRF patients, however, sometimes they won’t eat anything else, and something is better than nothing. One of mine will not eat K-D canned food – so I mix it half/half with another food…better that, than losing weight and dying. Natalie From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kathryn Hargreaves There are some who believe dry food causes CRF, so you may want to research more on this. Try the Holisticat.com site and Googling for other folks. On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 9:59 AM, Val Green harpestry...@aol.com wrote: Thanks, Natalie and all who responded. I've got Manny on prescription K/D dry food, baby food meats and lots of water dishes all over the house. He's probably close to 15 years old and has had CRF for several years. He's put on some weight recently and I'm hopeful he'll be around a few more years. Lots of love from this sweet, black cat! Valerie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] 8 FELV kitties in NYC
A rescue friend in Queens NYC had a house fire recently putting her and a huge amount of rescue cats out of her home. She has found an apartment to stay in while the ins. has her home fixed but that will take months. She currently has 8 felv cats that are staying in the attic of a neighbor. The neighbor wants them out. She needs a place for them to go until her home is fixed. She would be able to provide some funds for caring for them (feeding, litter, etc.) Is there anyone on here that would be able to help out? I can get you more information if you message me back. I can set it up for you to meet her and the kitties. She really needs help. Thank you, Tanya ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FW: FW: Tanya's CRF Site
Hi, Holly, Yes, I would definitely love your input on CRF….I have discovered much in the past 19 yrs on dealing with CRF, and should probably make notes, too. Please send to Natalie: mailto:at...@optonline.net at...@optonline.net or mailto:g...@optonline.net g...@optonline.net No rush! Thank you, Natalie From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Holly Shelton Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 11:17 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: FW: Tanya's CRF Site Oh and Spader was on aluminum hydroxide as a phos binder. It really helped. I have a word doc with all sorts of CRF links that I can email anyone who wants it. I put it together to help people. Also as an aside, I train people on giving fluids and the tips to give a cat a longer life. I also talk to local vets about what I did to change Spader's CRF and FD turned around. I am working 14 hour days and I may not be checking tis email more than a couple of times a day. Holly ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] 8 FELV kitties in NYC
Tanya, I could post it on the animalalert-sos-res...@yahoogroups.com, to which I belong. But I need to have some info on whom to contact and where. If you'd like me to do it, let me know! Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of TANYA NOE Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 11:52 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] 8 FELV kitties in NYC A rescue friend in Queens NYC had a house fire recently putting her and a huge amount of rescue cats out of her home. She has found an apartment to stay in while the ins. has her home fixed but that will take months. She currently has 8 felv cats that are staying in the attic of a neighbor. The neighbor wants them out. She needs a place for them to go until her home is fixed. She would be able to provide some funds for caring for them (feeding, litter, etc.) Is there anyone on here that would be able to help out? I can get you more information if you message me back. I can set it up for you to meet her and the kitties. She really needs help. Thank you, Tanya ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Tanya's CRF Site
Natalie, Manny loves to drink out of the faucet! Please let me know where you found your fountain. I'll check with my vet about sub-q fluids. On Feb 8, 2012, at 6:26 AM, GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote: Apple cider vinegar, unpasteurized...and Vitamin C, too. The water fountain should be stainless steel, not plastic. I just ordered another one, on sale. I'll find the site, and pass it on later. Does Manny like to drink from a faucet at all? Sub-q fluids can add years to their liveseasy to do. Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dlg...@windstream.net Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 9:01 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tanya's CRF Site Instead of water dishes, try a water fountain. My Homey has recurring bouts of sturvite crystals and we can't find any medical reason for it. I had 1 water fountain in the kitchen and got another for my bath since everyone comes into my bedroom at night. We like my memory foam mattress and the electric blanket. I have noticed that everyone drinks more water since the fountains. They are attracted by the sound and everyone has adifferent part of the water slide to drink from. I also added a bit of organic (cloudy) cidar vinegar. Someone in the group recommended it for the crystals. I also started Homey on cranberry paste. She does not like it, but I can put it on my finger an stick it in her mouth. So far she has not bitten me but leads a merry chase around the house when she sees me coming. Also, so far she has not had anothr bout with the crystals. Val Green harpestry...@aol.com wrote: Thanks, Natalie and all who responded. I've got Manny on prescription K/D dry food, baby food meats and lots of water dishes all over the house. He's probably close to 15 years old and has had CRF for several years. He's put on some weight recently and I'm hopeful he'll be around a few more years. Lots of love from this sweet, black cat! Valerie On Feb 7, 2012, at 12:10 PM, GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote: Here it is: http://www.felinecrf.org/ I am dealing with CRF on a continuous basis, and treatment depends on the levels of creatinine, BUN, phosphorus, etc. I use aluminum hydroxide, Pepcid AC, sub=q fluids, special diets, and whatever the vet tells me depending on test results. Natalie From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Chris Macke Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 12:50 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tanya's CRF Site Just google Tanya's CRF site and it will come right up - Original Message - From: Val Green To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 12:44 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Tanya's CRF Site I must have missed it, but can someone give me Tanya's site about CRF? My beloved Manny cat has CRF and I want to do as much as I can for him. Thank you all, Valerie On Feb 7, 2012, at 9:57 AM, Holly Shelton hsshel...@aol.com wrote: Tanya's CRF site is awesome. It really helped me turn my renal cat around. I can't access my list of things to feed when cats refuse to eat right now. Off the top of my head: a plain McDonald's hamburger patty, all meat baby food, boiled chicken, cheese, lunchmeat, smelly fish food.. I am just learning about Felv. My prior experience with cat issues is with diabetes and renal failure. Sending you good thoughts. Holl font -Original Message- From: botha.marinda4 botha.marin...@gmail.com To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tue, Feb 7, 2012 1:30 am Subject: [Felvtalk] News about Ginger My vet ordered Interferon and Cyproheptadine. The vet suspects leukemia is already in kitty's bone marrow. Ginger kitty refuses to eat his food but tried to eat his cat litter last night. What should I do? Euthanasia? I can't see my darling suffer like this! Marinda Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.o rg ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.o rg ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.o rg ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.o rg ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Smokey
Hi, can you tell me more about the salve and tonic. My FELV- cat Venture just had his foreleg amputated yesterday due to a fast growing tumor (biopsy pending). He has stage 2 CRF. Thanks. Laurie On Tuesday, February 7, 2012, Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com wrote: I'll let Natalie talk to you about this since she has the most experience. It's not something you can get off the shelf in a store. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 19:01:30 -0600 From: dlg...@windstream.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Smokey CC: molvey...@hotmail.com What is the name of the salve and tonic? Would like to have some on hand just in case. Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com wrote: From my limited amount of experience with this black salve and tonic, I would recommend it. I wouldn't hesitate to try it again on any of my animals that had cancer. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 17:42:29 -0500 From: g...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Smokey Would anyone with a cat or dog that has had cancer removed be interested in a black salve that would get to the rest of the tentacles that the vet may not have been able to remove? It’s not expensive, but you would have to join a group where you would get advice from people who have used it and lots of moral support, too. It is for people and animals…there’s also an herbal tonic for cancer, you get the herbs, brew up the tonic, etc. REALLY WORKS! In cases after surgery, the salve would be able to reach the interior through the incisions.Natalie From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 4:50 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Smokey Cindy - So sorry to hear about Smokey. I have a friend who had this with her dog. She had the 1st tumor removed, but it kept spreading. She just kept him going as long as he was still happy not suffering.Give him lots of love. He has done remarkable living this long with this awful virus. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: cindy reasoner reasoner37...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2012 4:11 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Smokey It has been a very long time since I have posted anything. I first found this site when my Smokey tested positive for feline leukemia. He had a hard time at the beginning with fevers but we finally got that under control. He has gone over 6 years with no problems or sickness. The other day I felt a very large knot on his left front leg. I took him to the vet to get it checked out. He thought it was probably cancer. He removed it today but he couldn't get all of it. He described it as having tenticles going in all different directions. He is sending it off to be sure it is cancer and what type. I have never dealt with this before and Smokey's outlook seems pretty grave. Any opinions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Cindy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Otto Please add to the CLS :(
We lost Otto this past Friday. He was a sweet black boy that always made me make out with him before I could give him his medicine...he was a lover thats for sure...he will be missed by many of us volunteers...I love you Otto Sherry We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary than our own, Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached. Unable to accept its awful gaps. We still would have it no other way___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] PICA - cats eating non-food
Here’s a list of articles on cats ingesting non-food items, it’s called PICA. http://www.goodsearch.com/search.aspx?keywords=Pica+in+cats From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kathryn Hargreaves Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 3:24 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] News about Ginger Eating what kind of litter indicates anemia, per Beth? BTW, I use Yesterday's News. On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 4:51 AM, GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote: Eating clumping litter that contains sodium bentonite can be lethal because it can solidify in the intestines, if inhaled, can cause lungs to fill, can also block urethras. If the instructions on litter say “do not flush down the toilet” because it will cause blockage, it contains sodium bentonite, and will do the same to a cat. They are not required to say so on the package, why? I don’t know. Was that your question? Natalie From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kathryn Hargreaves Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 11:50 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] News about Ginger What kind of litter? On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 6:14 AM, Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote: Eating litter is a classic sign of severe anemia. Most of my FeLV's died from anemia. At this point it's probably too late for interferon. That is a good preventative to boost the immune system, but it takes a while to start working. I euthanized all mine at the point they started eating litter, but that is a choice that only you can make. My thought are with you your baby. I know how hard it is to see them suffer. Beth _ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Tanya's CRF Site
Yes, for one of my kits, I spread a thin layer of baby food on top of healthier food---just enough to get the smeller going. You can also crumble kibble on top of better food, or use other really smelly bribe foods as toppers, e.g., bonito flakes, tuna water, crushed dried tuna, nutritional yeast, etc. On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 6:33 AM, GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote: ** ** YES, not good at all, especially for CRF patients, however, sometimes they won’t eat anything else, and something is better than nothing. One of mine will not eat K-D canned food – so I mix it half/half with another food…better that, than losing weight and dying. Natalie ** ** *From:* felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [ mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.orgfelvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf Of *Kathryn Hargreaves *Sent:* Tuesday, February 07, 2012 9:10 PM *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Tanya's CRF Site ** ** There are some who believe dry food causes CRF, so you may want to research more on this. Try the Holisticat.com site and Googling for other folks. On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 9:59 AM, Val Green harpestry...@aol.com wrote:*** * Thanks, Natalie and all who responded. I've got Manny on prescription K/D dry food, baby food meats and lots of water dishes all over the house. He's probably close to 15 years old and has had CRF for several years. He's put on some weight recently and I'm hopeful he'll be around a few more years. Lots of love from this sweet, black cat! ** ** Valerie On Feb 7, 2012, at 12:10 PM, GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote: Here it is: http://www.felinecrf.org/ I am dealing with CRF on a continuous basis, and treatment depends on the levels of creatinine, BUN, phosphorus, etc. I use aluminum hydroxide, Pepcid AC, sub=q fluids, special diets, and whatever the vet tells me depending on test results. Natalie ** ** ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Go Get a Life---Go Get a Shelter Animal! Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by implementing the No Kill Equation: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/ Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] News about Ginger
My gys have never eaten litter, but I use Worlds Best which is ground corn cobs and corn because it is biodegradeable, can be composted in its own compost bin anb is lightweight and has the same texture as clay . It is not as dusty as clay also and the cats love it. Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com wrote: What kind of litter? On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 6:14 AM, Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote: Eating litter is a classic sign of severe anemia. Most of my FeLV's died from anemia. At this point it's probably too late for interferon. That is a good preventative to boost the immune system, but it takes a while to start working. I euthanized all mine at the point they started eating litter, but that is a choice that only you can make. My thought are with you your baby. I know how hard it is to see them suffer. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org http://www.furkids.org/ -- *From:* botha.marin...@gmail.com botha.marin...@gmail.com *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Sent:* Tuesday, February 7, 2012 6:39 AM *Subject:* [Felvtalk] News about Ginger My vet ordered Interferon and Cyproheptadine. The vet suspects leukemia is already in kitty's bone marrow. Ginger kitty refuses to eat his food but tried to eat his cat litter last night. What should I do? Euthanasia? I can't see my darling suffer like this! Marinda Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Go Get a Life---Go Get a Shelter Animal! Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by implementing the No Kill Equation: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/ Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] News about Ginger
Yes, I used to use it until I realized that all corn not marked ``Organic'' is GMO. On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 4:59 PM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote: My gys have never eaten litter, but I use Worlds Best which is ground corn cobs and corn because it is biodegradeable, can be composted in its own compost bin anb is lightweight and has the same texture as clay . It is not as dusty as clay also and the cats love it. Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com wrote: What kind of litter? On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 6:14 AM, Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote: Eating litter is a classic sign of severe anemia. Most of my FeLV's died from anemia. At this point it's probably too late for interferon. That is a good preventative to boost the immune system, but it takes a while to start working. I euthanized all mine at the point they started eating litter, but that is a choice that only you can make. My thought are with you your baby. I know how hard it is to see them suffer. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org http://www.furkids.org/ -- *From:* botha.marin...@gmail.com botha.marin...@gmail.com *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Sent:* Tuesday, February 7, 2012 6:39 AM *Subject:* [Felvtalk] News about Ginger My vet ordered Interferon and Cyproheptadine. The vet suspects leukemia is already in kitty's bone marrow. Ginger kitty refuses to eat his food but tried to eat his cat litter last night. What should I do? Euthanasia? I can't see my darling suffer like this! Marinda Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Go Get a Life---Go Get a Shelter Animal! Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by implementing the No Kill Equation: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/ Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org -- Go Get a Life---Go Get a Shelter Animal! Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by implementing the No Kill Equation: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/ Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Tanya's CRF Site
I have to clean them more often because Homey and Casey think they have to Pat the water a few times before they drink. Paws pick up dirt anddeposit it in the fountain. No one ever said life would be easy! GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote: That's why a fountain is good, too, it has a filter (but the fountain must also be cleaned often; filter replaced monthly. Chlorine not good for them. Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 9:11 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tanya's CRF Site One of my vets tells of cats who drink local city water who develop this problem. My guys all drink bottled spring or distilled water because we travel and it is easier to do the bottles than to change from one city water to another (yes, there is a difference...big time). On Feb 7, 2012, at 8:01 PM, dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net wrote: Instead of water dishes, try a water fountain. My Homey has recurring bouts of sturvite crystals and we can't find any medical reason for it. I had 1 water fountain in the kitchen and got another for my bath since everyone comes into my bedroom at night. We like my memory foam mattress and the electric blanket. I have noticed that everyone drinks more water since the fountains. They are attracted by the sound and everyone has adifferent part of the water slide to drink from. I also added a bit of organic (cloudy) cidar vinegar. Someone in the group recommended it for the crystals. I also started Homey on cranberry paste. She does not like it, but I can put it on my finger an stick it in her mouth. So far she has not bitten me but leads a merry chase around the house when she sees me coming. Also, so far she has not had anothr bout with the crystals. Val Green harpestry...@aol.com wrote: Thanks, Natalie and all who responded. I've got Manny on prescription K/D dry food, baby food meats and lots of water dishes all over the house. He's probably close to 15 years old and has had CRF for several years. He's put on some weight recently and I'm hopeful he'll be around a few more years. Lots of love from this sweet, black cat! Valerie On Feb 7, 2012, at 12:10 PM, GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote: Here it is: http://www.felinecrf.org/ I am dealing with CRF on a continuous basis, and treatment depends on the levels of creatinine, BUN, phosphorus, etc. I use aluminum hydroxide, Pepcid AC, sub=q fluids, special diets, and whatever the vet tells me depending on test results. Natalie From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org ] On Behalf Of Chris Macke Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 12:50 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tanya's CRF Site Just google Tanya's CRF site and it will come right up - Original Message - From: Val Green To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 12:44 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Tanya's CRF Site I must have missed it, but can someone give me Tanya's site about CRF? My beloved Manny cat has CRF and I want to do as much as I can for him. Thank you all, Valerie On Feb 7, 2012, at 9:57 AM, Holly Shelton hsshel...@aol.com wrote: Tanya's CRF site is awesome. It really helped me turn my renal cat around. I can't access my list of things to feed when cats refuse to eat right now. Off the top of my head: a plain McDonald's hamburger patty, all meat baby food, boiled chicken, cheese, lunchmeat, smelly fish food.. I am just learning about Felv. My prior experience with cat issues is with diabetes and renal failure. Sending you good thoughts. Holl font -Original Message- From: botha.marinda4 botha.marin...@gmail.com To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tue, Feb 7, 2012 1:30 am Subject: [Felvtalk] News about Ginger My vet ordered Interferon and Cyproheptadine. The vet suspects leukemia is already in kitty's bone marrow. Ginger kitty refuses to eat his food but tried to eat his cat litter last night. What should I do? Euthanasia? I can't see my darling suffer like this! Marinda Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.o rg ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.o rg ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Otto Please add to the CLS :(
Sorry to hear this. -Original Message- From: Sherry DeHaan sherryd...@yahoo.com To: Felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wed, Feb 8, 2012 12:23 pm Subject: [Felvtalk] Otto Please add to the CLS :( We lost Otto this past Friday. He was a sweet black boy that always made me make out with him before I could give him his medicine...he was a lover thats for sure...he will be missed by many of us volunteers...I love you Otto Sherry We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary than our own, Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached. Unable to accept its awful gaps. We still would have it no other way ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Smokey
how do I join ths group on google? tried putting in group 2053 and got no results GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote: You ask me to invite you to join the 2053 Googlegroup…..Once you are a member, you can look through the archives, see success stories where salve was used on people and animals, get all the info on how to get salve and where to order the herbs to make the tonic (or buy small amount from list owner). It really is miraculous – one man’s arm was saved from amputation, a horse’s eye with cancer saved, many bunny and rat owners are members because those poor little critters get cancers…. You can actually look salve and tonic online, but they are NOT the same and are much more expensive…. If you would use the salve as soon as possible, so it can still seep in through the incision, it would be ideal. It will come back if it had tentacles and it was most likely squamous cell…. I would look for someone who may have a colony of cats that are cared for by someone….the kittens would become tame, though, if given a chance! From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of cindy reasoner Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 8:28 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Smokey I have never heard of this black salve. Does it really help? Where can I get more information on it and the group? I should get the pathology results back in a few days. I have felt a couple of very small knots on other parts of his body so I am afraid it has spread. The vet did take out a couple of lymph nodes too. I just can't get over how big this one was how I could have missed it until now. The vet told me that this one will come back and he was afraid it would be pretty soon. He said there was no reason to try to remove it or any others because they would just come back. I plan on spoiling him for however long he has left. When he seems like his quality of life isn't good anymore then I will let him go. Right now he is eating and playing. He doesn't act like anything is wrong. I am so stressed out right now. I trapped a mom cat and her 2 kittens(although they are about 8 months old) and had them spayed. I found a home for the mom cat but I still have the kittens which are feral and I can't find a home for them. They came from my work so I don't know anything else to do but take them back to work and let them live there me keep feeding them. Does that sound terrible? I just can't keep them. Anybody got any ideas? I won't take them to the shelter because someone told me they would euthanize them if they are feral. Now poor Smokey is sick. Thanks for your prayers and ideas for Smokey. I will let you know what the pathology report says. Cindy --- On Tue, 2/7/12, GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote: From: GRAS g...@optonline.net Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Smokey To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, February 7, 2012, 4:42 PM Would anyone with a cat or dog that has had cancer removed be interested in a black salve that would get to the rest of the tentacles that the vet may not have been able to remove? It’s not expensive, but you would have to join a group where you would get advice from people who have used it and lots of moral support, too. It is for people and animals…there’s also an herbal tonic for cancer, you get the herbs, brew up the tonic, etc. REALLY WORKS! In cases after surgery, the salve would be able to reach the interior through the incisions. Natalie _ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Tanya's CRF Site
Have you thought of trying another brand of kidney diet? Royal Canine or blue buffalo or any othe brad formulated for kidney GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote: YES, not good at all, especially for CRF patients, however, sometimes they won’t eat anything else, and something is better than nothing. One of mine will not eat K-D canned food – so I mix it half/half with another food…better that, than losing weight and dying. Natalie From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kathryn Hargreaves Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 9:10 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tanya's CRF Site There are some who believe dry food causes CRF, so you may want to research more on this. Try the Holisticat.com site and Googling for other folks. On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 9:59 AM, Val Green harpestry...@aol.com wrote: Thanks, Natalie and all who responded. I've got Manny on prescription K/D dry food, baby food meats and lots of water dishes all over the house. He's probably close to 15 years old and has had CRF for several years. He's put on some weight recently and I'm hopeful he'll be around a few more years. Lots of love from this sweet, black cat! Valerie On Feb 7, 2012, at 12:10 PM, GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote: Here it is: http://www.felinecrf.org/ I am dealing with CRF on a continuous basis, and treatment depends on the levels of creatinine, BUN, phosphorus, etc. I use aluminum hydroxide, Pepcid AC, sub=q fluids, special diets, and whatever the vet tells me depending on test results. Natalie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Otto Please add to the CLS :(
Farewell Otto, see you in heaven Sherry DeHaan sherryd...@yahoo.com wrote: We lost Otto this past Friday. He was a sweet black boy that always made me make out with him before I could give him his medicine...he was a lover thats for sure...he will be missed by many of us volunteers...I love you Otto Sherry We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary than our own, Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached. Unable to accept its awful gaps. We still would have it no other way ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
