Re: [Felvtalk] Money in trust for cats........Legal aid

[Sander, Sue]

Tamara,  Would you find out if there is an attorney in the Phila PA area.  
Thanks very much.

Susan

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From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of tamara stickler
Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 5:27 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Money in trust for catsLegal aid

Kat,
 
What state are you in?  I have an attorney, Lindsay Harrell, here in the 
office building where I work who specializes in wills, and pet trusts.  We're 
in Maryland.
 
If you are in another state, I can ask her if she knows of someone in your 
state to call.
 
Tamara

--- On Mon, 2/28/11, katskat1  wrote:


From: katskat1 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Money in trust for cats
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Monday, February 28, 2011, 4:35 PM


Some great ideas/questions!  Thank you all and keep them coming.

Right now I am on unemployment and will eventually start receiving a
small retirement amt each month that will barely pay the mortgage and
food so realizing the $500/$1000 was so totally inadequate - which I
should have known - was a set back I will have to deal with.  I guess
I was thinking it would be a bridge until the care-taker could find
forever homes for them.  That, of course, leads to another concern
about how to be sure the care-taker could be trusted to find good
homes..

Not sure about those on-line fund raising sites someone
suggested..beg for money?  I don't think I would give money to a
stranger on line with no real info as to where it will really go so
why would I expect anyone else to do so?  Sounds strange.

I like the idea of someone moving into house but who would oversee
that person to make sure the animals are receiving the care they
should? My few remaining relatives live many states away and are
within a few years of my age or older. What happens to the
person/house after the animals alive at the time of my death are no
longer living? Maybe as part of the will the house and property could
revert to a rescue site?  Yikes!  How to do that with zoning laws and
all And I would have to be sure the house could be paid for at
my death ARGHH...

I wish I knew a way to find an attorney I could trust to be familiar
with these types of situations AND share my love for these furry kids.
Maybe listed in the yellow pages under "Attorneys - Animal Trusts"???
or something?  ;-)  And would be willing and able to do it without
charging an arm and a leg.  Sigh.

So much to think about.

Keep the ideas coming.. And thank you all.

Kat

On 2/26/11, Peggy Verdonck  wrote:
> I'm so glad my family knows how important my cats and other pets are to me!
> Most my family members and friends are huge animal lovers and I have no
> doubt that they will take great care of mine, if something would happen to
> me and my husband.
>
> 2011/2/26 dana giordano 
>
>> I don't know how old the cats are but (i'm sorry) the amounts I am seeing
>> (500/1000) doesn't seem like it would be enough to take care of the cats
>> for
>> long other than maybe food needs. I definitely could be wrong. And maybe
>> that's all it's intended for.
>>
>> Natalie that is a fantastic idea!
>>
>> I wanted to share some potential solutions just to put it out there?  Love
>> that one though. (note: Must.buy.house. :P)
>>
>> Has anyone thought of raising funds via chipin, maybe through a local
>> 501c3
>> so their donators will get tax deductions, or perhaps kickstarter, or
>> pepsi
>> refresh? These are very popular fund raising sites nowadays and you can
>> choose different amounts...you just have to hit the minimum to get the
>> money
>> I think but people can always contribute more than requested, especially
>> if
>> you state that in the description of why you are looking for funds.
>>
>> And just fyi - there are actually cat retirement homes out there - did
>> anyone know that? Isn't that a smart idea? Wanted to put that out there
>> too,
>> although they make you pay upfront for the lifetime care of the cats.  I'm
>> sure they would give you a figure on the costs if you ask, and maybe it's
>> just a good idea to have that number for a goal.
>>
>> Also, if there are no no-kill shelters near you perhaps you could find
>> some
>> that are sort of nearby and see if local rescue groups would be willing to
>> transport them to that shelter, the shelter take them, and get that
>> contact
>> info out to family and in the will so there is a plan in place and it will
>> get done.  Also, they may have ideas on wills and after-care for animals.
>> I'm sure they deal with it all the time.
>>
>> It's smart to think ahead. Good to see people doing so. I'm fairly young
>> and
>> I think all my kitties will be gone by I'm 60 (I have 7.) which was just a
>> lucky thing, not a well-thought out thing, so hopefully I won't have to
>> deal
>> with this myself.  If I want animals after that I decided 

Re: [Felvtalk] Question About Inegrating Positive and Negative Cats

[Sander, Sue]

It's so wonderful to know that Bailey lived for over 10 years.  Does
anyone else know of FEL+ who have lived a long life?  If so, please tell
me.  I want to have hope.

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Belinda Sauro
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 4:55 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question About Inegrating Positive and Negative
Cats


I had Bailey+ intergrated with my other as many as 7 negatives and 
none of them ever became positive.  He was 5 months old when I found him

and I had him separated but while I was at work come to find out my Joey

was sneaking under the door of Bailey's room and playing with him and 
exposing all of his housemates, didn't make sense to keep him separate 
after I discovered that.  He lived with his housemates for over 10 
years, they were all vaccinated.  They slept, ate, played, groomed and 
on occasion had spats and scratched and bit each other, nothing serious 
but there was blood drawn on occasion from the scratches, no one ever 
became positive in those 10 years.

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Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV Re-testing for kittens/Tommy Update

[Sander, Sue]

Can you please state the first paragraph in another way.  I'm don't know
what you mean by "the stats are that 70% can be adequately exposed until
to test positive, and either never do so, or process the virus out of
their system."  This is very important to me because I have a very
healthy cat who tested POSITIVE one year ago.  He was a stray.  This is
the second year I'm taking him to have his teeth cleaned because the vet
said she can see signs of FELV+ by his teeth (not her exact words).  

So what percentage of the 70% and the 30% are the cats who become ill?
I began giving my cat the MEGA C a little over a year ago.

Thanks very much.

Susan

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaryChristine
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 2:25 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV Re-testing for kittens/Tommy Update

in adult healthy cats, the stats are that 70% can be adequately exposed
until to test positive, and either never do so, or process the virus out
of
their system. they also know that some percentage of that 30% who do
remain
viremic, never become symptomatic, and are not contagious, even tho they
continue to test positive.

vets consistently forget, and we must consistently remind them, that the
SNAP (and IFA, actually) test not for antibodies/infection, but for
antigens/exposure--so a confirmatory test is literally vital.

sadly, there is just not enough research to say what the percentages are
in
kittens--back in 2002, it was presumed that ALL kittens of positive moms
(many of whom probably weren't positive to start with) were be
definition
positive themselves, and all were killed. when mom wasn't there to test,
if
one kitten in a litter tested positive, or the litter's blood was mixed
(heaven forfend!) and was positive (again, remember, to ANTIGENS only),
all
were most likely killed.

asymptomatic positive adults were most likely to be given a chance,
while
kittens were far less lucky. hence no research pool.

in sanctuary settings, anecdotally it seemed that asymptomatic
kittens--especially of asymptomatic moms--who made it past six or seven
months of age (when mom's antibodies wore off? don't know, but kept
happening), and again past about 18-22 months (absolutely NO ideas on
why
that's an important mark) would survive--these were UNretested cats,
remember.

kittens of sickly moms, or kittens who were themselves sickly -- not
necessarily REALLY sick, but just not as thrifty as others their
age/developmental stage--tended to do less well.

with retesting recognized as a necessity, with an IFA done at an
interval
long enough to let the virus work itself out of kitty's system, the
majority
of kittens tested negative. still do.

just no real data to 'prove' it.

paolo, have you seen this?
*http://tinyurl.com/AAFP-Retrovirus-Guidelines*
*
*
MC
--
Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors!
Maybe That'll Make The Difference

MaryChristine
Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue
(www.purebredcats.org)
Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team)
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Re: [Felvtalk] Helpful links on ascorbate therapy

[Sander, Sue]

THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!! 

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From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of S. Jewell
Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 2:36 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Helpful links on ascorbate therapy

I thought some of you might appreciate more information about how
vitamin C has been used in medicine over the decades to help you better
understand its power and application in veterinary medicine.  The
following three Web sites contain a wealth of information that I find
most enlightening and refer to frequently. 

 

www.orthomolecular.org  

www.orthomed.org  

www.doctoryourself.com  

 

 

 

Sally Snyder Jewell

 

 

 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Vit C therapy Sally Snyder Jewell

[Sander, Sue]

Hi Sally,  Thank you for this information.  

Susan 

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of S. Jewell
Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 12:20 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Vit C therapy Sally Snyder Jewell

Hi, Susan, 

Intravenous ascorbate is vitamin C in the form of sodium ascorbate
administrated intravenously (directly into the animal's veins) at high
doses in veterinary medicine.  It is typically mixed with sodium
chloride and administered over the course of a few hours, depending on
how much vitamin C the cat will be receiving. 

I have used it with my FeLV cat Linus for his lymphoma and was able to
put him into remission for going on two years now when the diagnosing
vet had told me he had about 4-6 weeks to live in early 2008.  We
administered it over the course of a year (2x a week for three months),
six months off, then 2x a week for three more months).  We did not
reverse his FeLV with the low dose he was getting (1,000 mg per pound of
body weight).  However, I am going to be trying this therapy more
intensively for the next young FeLV that comes into my care, for I truly
believe that if I can administer the ascorbate in the early stages of
the disease before it has a chance to progress too far the ascorbate
will reverse it.  For information on why and how intravenous vitamin C
kills these viruses, see Dr. Fred Klenner's paper, Clinical Guide to the
Use of Vitamin C, reprinted in its entirety at this link:
http://www.seanet.com/~alexs/ascorbate/198x/smith-lh-clinica
l_guide_1988.htm

The writings of retired veterinarian Dr. Wendell Belfield also cover
many conditions that he used vitamin C for as far back as the 1960s.
Tragically, few vets paid attention to this paper and the profound
evidence of how well this therapy works in vet medicine.  Dr. Belfield's
paper is
here:
http://www.seanet.com/~alexs/ascorbate/197x/belfield-w-j_int
_assn_prev_med-1978-v2-n3-p10.htm

The protocol would be rather intensive for a cat with advanced FeLV but
if the cat is early into the disease I believe that administration of up
to 2,000 mg per pound of body weight for a number of consecutive days
(perhaps 10-11) would kill the virus based on Dr. Klenner's explanation.
I have seen it kill FIP in a young kitten when administered for 11
consecutive days at nearly 2,000 mg per pound.  

If you intend to try this for your cat, you should contact me and let me
know so that I can give you more specific directions or give your vet
the name of my vet.  Again, though, I have not yet tried to reverse FeLV
in a cat who has had it for years and am not sure if it is even
possible.
A lot of it would depend if the virus has progressed to the stage that
it is already in the cat's bone marrow.  Still, being the kind of person
I am, I will probably still try that just to satisfy my own interest
and, of course, help others to know whether it works.  Having just lost
three companion animals I have just been so overwhelmed with veterinary
expenses that my funds are too low to consider it right now.  But as
sure as the sun rises in the east, I will.  :)  

FYI, I spoke with a nurse in Pennsylvania this week and she said that
there are definitely vets in Pennsylvania who are doing this treatment
on animals.  It is completely safe and nontoxic for the animal.  

Regarding the Mega-C Plus, it is an excellent supplement and completely
safe for the cat.  It was formulated by Dr.
Belfield himself.  People are misinformed about vitamin C in general,
hence the reason I am getting such a barrage of backlash over posting
this information.  I believe they are just scared and of course,
skeptical based on their misinformation.  


Sally Snyder Jewell, Marketing Director
Tower Laboratories Corporation
www.HeartTech.com
1-877-TOWER-LABS
Practicing Medicine Without a License?  The Story of the Linus Pauling
Therapy for Heart Disease, by Owen Fonorow and Sally Snyder Jewell
 
 
 
> -Original Message-
> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-
> boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sander, Sue
> Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 6:58 AM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Vit C therapy Sally Snyder Jewell
> 
> Sally,  Please tell me EXACTLY what "INTRAVENOUS ASCORBATE" is.  I 
> have a FELV+ cat who shows no symptoms.  Do you recommend this for 
> him?  If so, do all vets did this?  I live in the Phila Pa area.
Also, I have
> the MEGA C but someone on this list (I think) said it may
contain
> something (that over the long haul) may not be good.  What
is
> your
> opinion on this.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Susan
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
S.
> Jewell
> Sent: Monday, December 14, 

Re: [Felvtalk] Vit C therapy Sally Snyder Jewell

[Sander, Sue]

Sally,  Please tell me EXACTLY what "INTRAVENOUS ASCORBATE" is.  I have
a FELV+ cat who shows no symptoms.  Do you recommend this for him?  If
so, do all vets did this?  I live in the Phila Pa area.  Also, I have
the MEGA C but someone on this list (I think) said it may contain
something (that over the long haul) may not be good.  What is your
opinion on this.  

Thanks.

Susan 

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of S. Jewell
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 11:42 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Vit C therapy Sally Snyder Jewell

Merlin, 

Indeed in the interest of "self-disclosure," in all of my posts anyone
could have seen from my sign-off at any time that I work with Tower
Laboratories, a nutriceutical manufacturer whose Pauling therapy vitamin
C/lysine protocol has been saving lives from heart disease for the past
14 years.  I have made no attempt to hide that fact, though perhaps
doing so might have made me seem more like one of you and less like I
was trying to "sell" you something.
However, despite what I do to support my family and my rescue, I am
certainly not paid to spend time posting here about the successes I have
seen with intravenous ascorbate in my cat rescue and answering e-mail
questions gratis after my 12-hour work days in an effort to help others
save animals.  My company does not even sell vitamin C for animals and I
have never once offered to sell anything to anyone here, so to accuse me
of "selling snake oil and preying on people's love of their pets"
borders on libel.
There is no "ulterior sales motive" here - I am simply trying to help.
I am also, as you accurately point out, a published contributing author,
and if memory serves, this is the first time I have ever been publicly
chastised for sharing information in the interest of helping animals.
Perhaps it is really true that people do not value the things they get
for free.  

I first posted my experience with vitamin C here because I love animals
and people and want to see these cats have a chance of survival and yes,
help their owners to have "hope"
where there would otherwise seem none.  It would have been self-serving
not to, or to disseminate the information for profit, as many might
have.  After all, there aren't many options for saving these cats and it
seemed to me that some might actually appreciate and find my experience
useful.  I truly did not expect such a firestorm of skepticism and
negativity and I am beginning to regret my initial decision to share at
all, though thankfully there have been some to embrace and implement
what I have shared, and for them and hopefully many others to follow in
our footsteps, it was worth it.

The fact that I work in this field affords me knowledge that others may
not have - others who are still looking for some of the answers that I
have been fortunate enough to discover.  I have shared in honesty and
with a caring heart and now the information is out there for those who
would like to try vitamin C in all forms for their animals.  I have not
made claims that it will work positively to cure FeLV cats in all cases
but have very specifically stated that I don't know what the response
would be for cats that are well into the disease process with bone
marrow involvement, though I sure intend to find out once we recover
from the financial burden of the last three sick cats and their
treatments.  With the alternative being certain death, my question is,
"What compassionate, thinking pet owner would deny an animal a chance at
life because he or she "did not believe" that something would work?"  My
vet has now done three clinical trials with three successful outcomes.
Had I been skeptical and waited for published clinical trials, all three
cats would now be dead.  

I lost a kitten in November to FIP because we did not use the correct IV
ascorbate protocol and because he was perhaps too far into the disease
process to be brought back.  Do I wish that I had never discovered or
used the vitamin C protocol because my heart was crushed over the loss
of him?
Of course not, for because of what I learned with him we were successful
in saving his sister.  Every day she is a living reminder that his death
was not in vain, and I will never stop trying to save the ones I can
with this protocol because I know it works and it's really all I have.
It seemed logical to me that others would appreciate the opportunity to
hear of and try this for the animals they love as well, regardless of
where or who it came from.
Waiting for conventional medicine to understand or embrace this science
is costing animals (and humans) their lives but nothing says that their
owners and caregivers cannot. 

We are not talking about an "ordinary" vitamin as most have come to
consider vitamin C.  The majority of the world's population has no clue
about how far-reaching and powerful ascorbic acid truly is for
destroyi

Re: [Felvtalk] First Doses of Imulan For Murphy & Rosie

[Sander, Sue]

Why isn't everyone using LTCI if it will change a negative to a
positive?  What exactly is LTCI.  What does it entail?  Thanks for any
information you can tell me.

Susan 

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Hotmail Junk
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 11:16 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] First Doses of Imulan For Murphy & Rosie

We have been through a lot. GrayKitty has been on the LTCI for over 6
months. He has been testing negative for the last 2-3 months.  
Previously, he had gone through 2 blood transfusions to help deal with
his anemia. He is also using Interferon, 1 week on and 1 week off.

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 19, 2009, at 6:51 PM, "S. Jewell"  wrote:

> Would love to know how long your cat had been FeLV positive before 
> being started on Imulan's LTCI and how long he was on the Imulan 
> before the FeLV negative blood test?  My cat just received his third 
> injection and though he was heading into anemia and had stopped 
> eating, with syringe feeding and three shots on board he's no worse 
> than he was, so we're hopeful.  Still, it would be wonderful to know 
> what type of time frame we're looking at for any hope of a negative 
> FeLV status with the LTCI.
>
> Thanks so much!
>
>
> Sally Jewell
>
>
>
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
>> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
> Hotmail Junk
>> Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2009 8:01 PM
>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] First Doses of Imulan For Murphy &
> Rosie
>>
>> I wish you the best! My cat uses the same medication & has
>
>> tested negative for leukemia for the last few months. We
> have
>> no idea if it is the injections or what. He is also on Prednisolone &

>> has bi-weekly blood test to check levels.
> We
>> just take one day at a time. Hang in there!
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Sep 19, 2009, at 2:59 PM, Sharyl 
> wrote:
>>
>>> Fingers and paws crossed that the shots help.
>>> Sharyl
>>>
>>> --- On Sat, 9/19/09, Alice Flowers
>>  wrote:
>>>
 From: Alice Flowers 
 Subject: [Felvtalk] First Doses of Imulan For Murphy &
> Rosie
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Saturday, September 19, 2009, 3:11 AM We have our
> fingers
 crossed!! We arrived at our vet's office right after
> the shipment
 arrived. Rosie and Murphy had their exams and blood
> drawn for
 baselines-CBCs and their 3rd FeLV tests. We have
> previous
>> tests from
 June 3rd this year also. Those tests showed that
> Murphy's
>> levels were
 changing (similar to Schatzi's who just passed less
> than a month
 ago). We are really concerned for our last 2 cats
> because Rosie
 (tabby) is the only female of the litter of 5-her 4
> brothers have
 passed away in the last 5 months from severe anemia.
> She has just
 turned a year old last month-she insists on a game of
>> fetch several
 times a day with her lamb's wool mouse. (she has
> plucked
>> most of the
 wool off and I can't find another
 one.) Murphy is a semi long haired, polydactyl, tuxedo
> boy with 7
 toes on each front foot and a spare on each hind
> foot-He
>> was dumped
 into the feral colony that Rosie and her brothers came
> from. He is
 the sweetest boy, so playful and just wants to hang out
>
>> with you-he
 follows you around like a dog. He looks like he has
> Ov-Gloves on!
 Anyway-this disease seems like a switch is flipped on
> and there is
 nothing we can do to save them-we are hoping that using
>
>> this product
 before the symptoms of anemia appear will give us some
>> chance of them
 surviving for a long time. Maybe by taking a proactive
> approach we
 will be able to turn the odds a little. We are
> beginning with one
 injection a week for a month, then every two weeks...to
>
>> once a month.
 Blood will be drawn every two weeks at first. We had
> the first
 injections at the vet's office today (the tech did
>> Murphy's and she
 watched while I gave Rosie's). I will be giving the
>> remaining 8 doses
 at home to save costs. We'll have the blood test
> results
>> back Monday.
 Say a little prayer for us.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D

[Sander, Sue]

Where do you buy A/D?  Is that the REAL name if I went into a store?

Susan 

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Susan Hoffman
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 10:24 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D

A/D is a specially prepared canned cat food that is high nutrition and very 
palatable.

As far as tofu is concerned, I have cats who like soy products but it is not 
nutritionallly complete for cats so I would not let a cat try to live oin it.  
But I'll give most cats whatever appeals to them as a treat,.



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From: "dlg...@windstream.net" 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Cc: Emily Hunter 
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 4:08:40 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D

ok, it is getting late and my brain is fuzzy - what is A/D?  IS TOFU GOOD FOR 
CATS?
 Emily Hunter  wrote: 
> 
> Just a quick question for future referrence, since all of my babies 
> are eating fine at the moment. I'm considering just keeping some of 
> the A/D on hand since my cats don't always get sick when the vet's 
> open. How long is it generally good for? In addition to Tofu being 
> positive, I've been cautioned to really keep a close eye on our 
> 20-lbs- er. (He is fat, but he and his littermates all have huge 
> frames as well, so 20lbs, while not being good, isn't quite as bad as it 
> seems.
> He is losing weight slowly since I've taken most of the treats away 
> from Mom!)
> 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Urgent! FeLV cat -New Jersey- I need to find him aSanctuary

[Sander, Sue]

Thank you for this information.

Susan 

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaryChristine
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 10:31 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Urgent! FeLV cat -New Jersey- I need to find him
aSanctuary

70% of adult cats can be exposed and throw off the virus, and the
current vaccines are over 90% effective--get your other cats vaccinated,
and they will be safe. there are NO cases of a true negative cat who is
vaccinated ever turning positive from living with a true positive. to
make sure your kitty really is positive, ask your vet to do an IFA test.
i'm presuming he's been living outdoors all this time, so he probably
was first exposed awhile ago.

even unvaccinated cats rarely turn positive, as many folks who had
positives BEFORE there was a reliable vaccine can attest--this is just
NOT a virus that is easily transmitted nor contracted. (everyone
remember mari, spiritcat, from her days posting on this link--she's had
FeLVs with her clowder for over 30 years now, long before vaccination
was common--and like most folks, never had a problem. and my household
was definitely exposed by a lovely girl who'd tested negative at the
shelter--that retesting issue again--and tho there were frail elders and
3-month-old kittens in the mix, it's been nine years without any FeLV
showing up!)

they are now finding that some of the cats who remain testing positive
NEVER get sick, and are not contagious--remember that all the theories
about carriers, and WHEN a cat is actually contagious, are just that:
THEORIES that make sense, but might not stand up to research. we don't
KNOW that positives who stay healthy are contagious while they're
healthy--and this latest research is showing that to be the case.

a healthy cat is a healthy cat, FeLV or not. one that is as friendly as
this one is deserves a home, not a sanctuary setting.

there are a number of places for posting positives if you really feel
you must rehome him; get photos, and we can give you the names of other
lists.

MC

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Re: [Felvtalk] Wolfie Update

[Sander, Sue]

Thank you very much.  This group sure knows a lot.

Susan 

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of gary
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 4:48 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
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I had the vet call in a prescription to the Walmart Specialty Pharmacy.

It was $30.68 for a 1ml 2000 unit vial and they shipped it FedEx
overnight for free.  Got it about an hour ago and have already given the
first shot (100 units).  As long as it is given Sub-q, I do it myself
(shots, fluids, etc.).

I am looking into Staph Protein A which showed a lot of promise in
treating FeLV back in the mid 80s.  This is given with a shot into the
abdominal cavity - I think I will be letting the vet do that.

Gary

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sander, Sue
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 2:04 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
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Gary,  What do you mean you are expecting a delivery of Epogen.  Don't
you need to get this from your vet?  I'm new to all of this.

Susan 



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Re: [Felvtalk] Wolfie Update

[Sander, Sue]

Gary,  What do you mean you are expecting a delivery of Epogen.  Don't
you need to get this from your vet?  I'm new to all of this.

Susan 

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of gary
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 3:01 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
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Hi Amy,

I am expecting to delivery of the Epogen for one of my FeLV positives
today.
I will let everyone know how it works out.

Gary

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Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 9:00 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Wolfie Update

Thanks for the info.  I've joined the anemia group and am reading up on
it.
Has anybody on this list tried the Epogen for a leuk pos cat that is
anemic?
I read a lot about Epogen being very effective for anemia and I read
about people using it for CRF.  Just wondering what sort of experiences
people have had using it for non-regenerative anemia not due to CRF.

Thanks
Amy



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Re: [Felvtalk] Vitamin C

[Sander, Sue]

I have Sammie on MEGA C PLUS from Belfield website.  I have been
sprinkling this and AC-11 onto his food two times a day.  I have been
doing this since May so I don't know if it is working or not.  Sammie is
very healthy (as of today) but I'm trying to keep his immune system
healthy. 

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Gloria B. Lane
Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 11:23 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Vitamin C

Well, you might check out Dr. Belfield's vitamin C -
http://www.belfield.com/

Gloria



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> Hello everyone,
> Does anyone have a good source for powdered vitamin C for cats.  The 
> shelter I volunteer for is looking to add vitamin C with the lysine 
> and we are looking for a source that is tried and true.
> Thank you,
> Sue
> (katlover1300)
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Re: [Felvtalk] Introduction - Rebecca

[Sander, Sue]

-+

Rebecca,  Thank you for this valuable information.

Susan 

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaryChristine
Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 2:03 PM
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Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Introduction - Rebecca

regardless of how becca became infected, everyone in the house has
already been exposed to her by now, and euthanizing her is like the
proverbial shutting the barn door.

as others have said, adults cats have a very high level of immunity to
the virus--suggest that your vet read
http://www.merckvetmanual.com/mvm/index.jsp?cfile=htm/bc/57000.htm&word=
feline%2cleukemia
for the 70% stat. additionally, NEW research is showing that even in
those cats who do continue to test positive, some of them never progress
to becoming systematic, and are not actually contagious.
(that info was given in a petsmart webinar late last year, and i haven't
been able to find the actual citation.)

also, as mentioned, there is NO evidence of a vaccinated TRUE negative
(ie, one tested twice, with enough time in between tests for the virus
to actually have taken hold) ever to become positive from living with a
TRUE positive (likewise, one tested twice, to make sure that it doesn't
throw the virus off.) there are many folks who have had vaccinated
negatives living with positives for many years, with NO infection.

everyone, and everything living is gonna die at some point--and when we
start killing off things because they MIGHT get sick at some point, it
doesn't bode well for any living thing. it's awful to find out that one
has inadvertently exposed one of our furkids to an illness, but once
it's happened, it's happened--i know i don't stop loving the positive
one

glad you found us.





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Re: [Felvtalk] Cleveland

[Sander, Sue]

This is wonderful for me to hear.  Sammie was tested positive in May and
I was such a wreck.  This list has given me so much hope.  Most of the
information on the interest says that most cats will die within 3 years.

Susan 

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of catatonya
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My DD is at least 10 she's been positive since i got her. test on
elisa and the other one.

--- On Thu, 7/16/09, MaryChristine  wrote:


From: MaryChristine 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cleveland
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Thursday, July 16, 2009, 1:30 PM


GLOW for cleveland!

and my friend KatieKalico is about 12 now, and still going strong--still
positive, and the other cats in her house are still negative (they are
ALL vaccinated, including Katie)

i'm really starting to wonder how many positives--even true positives,
not just those who test positive once on an ELISSA and are never
retested--actually get sick? it might be a very small number, but no
one's ever looked into it since FeLVs are easier to just kill.


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Re: [Felvtalk] My thanks and also a list of Sammy's meds

[Sander, Sue]

Helene,  Thanks very much for the list of Meds.  I will also keep this
for when I may need it for my vet.

Susan 

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Helene R. Hand
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 10:26 PM
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Subject: [Felvtalk] My thanks and also a list of Sammy's meds


 Thank you, Gary, and Sue, for the geriatric websites!!!  My friend,
April, is so grateful for the information!!
 
Susan, below  is a list of Sam's maintenance  meds, copied  from my
records -po is by mouth, qd is daily, and sc is
subcutaneously.nursing shorthand.  I believe that the interferon
made the real difference.  The great thing was, people on the list were
the ones who knew about the drugs that worked! My vet did not, and
admitted it, and was happy to prescribe what I told him should work.
Also, there was (and still is) a compounding
pharmacy not too far away which made up the interferon solution.   I
also
have a pet drug reference book which tells you about the drugs,
interactions, usage, etc. That is good to have, anyhow. Although there's
Google, of course.  I hope this helps!!   
 
Helene   
 
 
   

He is on maintenance meds of interferon 1 cc po -7 days on-7 days off,
pettinic 2 cc po qd, winstrol 2 mg po qd, taurine 250 mg po qd, .
procrit .0 7 cc s.c. 1x wk, vit B12 .25cc s.c. 1 x per wk. Continue
love, treatment, and prayers as of  August, 2002.

 

Keep paws and fingers crossed that we can at least keep this horrible
disease at bay for a few more years-and that treatment for all felv+
kitties becomes more well-known and standardized.  Remember that there
is hope!!!  I am so grateful for my FELV list- their words of wisdom
and love and caring have helped me devise a treatment plan which no vet
could do.

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Re: [Felvtalk] websitefor aging kitties

[Sander, Sue]

Hi Helene,  I'm new to this group and I have a "SAMMIE" with FELV -
thank you for telling me that you kept your SAMMIE in remission for 7
years.  This group has helped me and many have given me hope that Sammie
can live for a number of years in remission.

I just HAPPENED to get this stray kitten - never even liked cats - and
he has become my life.  I can't believe all of the caring people on this
website.

Do you have any suggestions as to how you kept Sammie and Delilah in
remission?

Susan 

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Helene R. Hand
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 12:13 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] websitefor aging kitties

Hi, You'all,
 
I have not participated actively in a long time since my beautiful Sammy
finally succumbed to FELV in 2006 and his mother Delilah in
2007..
For 7 years I kept him in remission, and this website was my guiding
star...it supplied help, comfort, knowledge and
love.  I do read alot of the e-mails; I guess that makes
me a "lurker" in the shadows... 
 
Is there a website like ours with member participation for routine
(healthy) geriatric cat care.this is for a friend of mine.who really
needs some good advice about her aging  cat Sneakers
 
Helene
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Re: [Felvtalk] Cleveland

[Sander, Sue]

Thanks for your help.  I have been looking for the NATURE 95% Salmon, Mackerel 
& Sardines but can't find it - do you know where I can order it?  I know very 
well that I need to live each day as it comes but I end up worrying - I don't 
know what I will do if Sammie becomes sick???  I just admire everyone on this 
list.  You all seem to cope so well. 

-Original Message-
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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sharyl
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 1:54 PM
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All I can do is give you my stats.

6 positives in the house; 3 died before they were 1; 2 thriving at age 2, 1 
thriving at age 1.
2 positives in the dumpster colony I TNR'd; both still thriving at age 2.

Sissy, one of my house 2 y/o, has always had swollen lymph glands. Rocket, her 
sister, does not have any symptoms.   

>From what I have read here, it seems some kitties are just genetically better 
>able to cope with the disease.  Maybe they have stronger immune systems.  
>Since all of mine come from the same dumpster colony I do not expect any of 
>them to see 20.  I am happy for each good day we have. 

I've lost cats to CRF, heart disease and a dog attack in addition to FeLV.   I 
learned to treasure each day we have together.  Worrying about the future 
doesn't help me or the cats.

Hug your kitty for me
Sharyl

--- On Thu, 7/16/09, Sander, Sue  wrote:

> From: Sander, Sue 
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cleveland
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Date: Thursday, July 16, 2009, 1:35 PM That is really what I would 
> LOVE to know.  Sammie is very healthy and I almost died when he tested 
> positive.  I'm trying everything I can to keep his immune system as 
> healthy as I can.  I don't know much about cats - he is my first and 
> was a stray.  I am now looking into BLUE SEAL FOOD with Belinda told 
> me about and someone told me about AC-11.
> 
> Thank you so much for writing.
> 
> Susan
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org]
> On Behalf Of MaryChristine
> Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 1:31 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cleveland
> 
> GLOW for cleveland!
> 
> and my friend KatieKalico is about 12 now, and still going 
> strong--still positive, and the other cats in her house are still 
> negative (they are ALL vaccinated, including Katie)
> 
> i'm really starting to wonder how many positives--even true positives, 
> not just those who test positive once on an ELISSA and are never 
> retested--actually get sick? it might be a very small number, but no 
> one's ever looked into it since FeLVs are easier to just kill.
> 
> 
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> 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Cleveland

[Sander, Sue]

That is really what I would LOVE to know.  Sammie is very healthy and I
almost died when he tested positive.  I'm trying everything I can to
keep his immune system as healthy as I can.  I don't know much about
cats - he is my first and was a stray.  I am now looking into BLUE SEAL
FOOD with Belinda told me about and someone told me about AC-11.

Thank you so much for writing.

Susan 

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaryChristine
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 1:31 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cleveland

GLOW for cleveland!

and my friend KatieKalico is about 12 now, and still going strong--still
positive, and the other cats in her house are still negative (they are
ALL vaccinated, including Katie)

i'm really starting to wonder how many positives--even true positives,
not just those who test positive once on an ELISSA and are never
retested--actually get sick? it might be a very small number, but no
one's ever looked into it since FeLVs are easier to just kill.


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Re: [Felvtalk] Cleveland

[Sander, Sue]

Thank you Belinda.  This gives me hope. 

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To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
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Bailey was 11 years old when he passed, I found him when he was 5
months old and he was positive then, so he had it 11 years and was only
sick the last 6 months of his life.

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Re: [Felvtalk] Cleveland

[Sander, Sue]

How long has Annie been FELV POSITIVE?  I have Sammie - just discovered he has 
FELV POSITIVE and he is very healthy and not under stress.  You also said that 
Annie was 10 years old.  I am giving him vitamins (AC-11) and a few other 
vitamins trying to keep his immune system the best I can.  Does anyone have 
FELV POSITIVE cats who have lived a long time?

Thanks very much,

Susan

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Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cleveland

i admire you for working with the sanctuary.  i don't think i could do it.  i 
would be bringing home everry one of them.  i have 2 who came from a no kill 
sanctuary.  they were 10 years old, healthy enough, but Lil Bit had an eye 
infection, was very timid and she and Casey were not grooming themselves.  they 
had been there for over a year.   now their true natures have come out.  Casey 
is an alpha female who is still having arguments with Annie who is also an 
alpha.  Annie is felv positive, but apparently there is not too much stress 
since she is fat and sassy as can be.  Lil Bit is still a bit timid, but she 
now roams the whole house.  she still has to have her food in "her" room, but 
now comes and sits on my lap and sleeps on the bed with the others.  Casey goes 
outside, Lil Bit does not even want too.  she is content to snooze away the day 
whereever she wants and eat.  i think the stress of being in a shelter 
situation brings on a lot of problems.  cages are small compared to a house or 
outdoors, they can't move around a lot and get exercise.  Pals tried to remedy 
that by putting some of the cats in a "community" cage, a 12 x 12 foot chain 
link fencing with baskets hung from the sides for them to sleep in, small 
disposable litter boxes and food/water bowls on the floor.  of course they 
could not clean the boxes as often as they should since volunteers come only at 
8am and after work.  Casey still has a problem with litter boxes.  she is an 
over achiever and stands outside of the box, pulling a lot of the clean litter 
out all over the floor trying to cover.  she will cover for the others.  i have 
5 boxes and clean them 3 times a day so there is no odor, she just got into the 
habit from the shelter. all but Lil Bit and Nit Noy (Thai for little one) go 
outside during the day weather permitting.  this year, this is not too often.  
we have had so much rain and now in the middle of July, it is still raining at 
least 3 days of each week and night time temps are in the low 60's.  days we 
can't go out, i feed canned food.  that seems to settle them down.  today is in 
the low 70's, raining off and on and Casey is on father's bed, Bob and Lil Bit 
are on the cat tree in the corner, Nit Noy is on the rug by the bed and Homey 
is in her bed in my room while Annie is on my bed.  all of this elads up to my 
idea for your babies:  maybe they should have a large enclosed room where they 
could go for exercise and socialization.  furnish it like a room with old 
furniture so they could be in a more normal situation.  that would reduce 
stress.  even if you only took one at a time, it would give that one a chance 
for a more relaxed time of day.  course, don't put 2 alphas like Annie and 
Casey in together.  good luck with your babies.  dorlis
 Sherry DeHaan  wrote: 
> I am asking for some good thoughts and prayers for our newest handsome sweet 
> boy at the sanctuary.He is pretty sick right now.But I did see him grooming 
> himself yesterday before I left,so maybe it is a goos sign.He has a nasty 
> tongue ulcer he is being treated for.
> Thanks
> Sherry
>  
> 
> 
>  
> "We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary than 
> our own, Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached.
> Unable to accept its awful gaps.
> We still would have it no other way"
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Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D (Sander, Sue)

[Sander, Sue]

Thank you very much.  I am certainly learning a lot on this email list. 

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of James Rauscher
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 4:57 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D (Sander, Sue)

Hi Susan!
Banfield is a vet clinic inside some PetSmart stores. The food is Hill's 
Prescription Diet A/D, it comes in canine and feline formulas.
Good luck with your kitty!
Avia 


  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D

[Sander, Sue]

But is it simply called A/D with Banfield?  What is Banfield?

Thanks,

Susan 

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Debbie
Harrison
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 12:52 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
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I'm almost certain it is made by Hill's Science Diet

Debbie (COL)
"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle"  Philo


 
> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 12:47:10 -0400
> From: sue.san...@ssa.gov
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D
> 
> What is the full name of A/D - like if I went to the pet store, what 
> would I ask for?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Susan
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
> MaryChristine
> Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 12:44 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D
> 
> the benefit of a/d is the consistency/texture: MUCH easier to 
> syringe-feed than most things you can prepare yourself. baby food is a

> good texture, but for an immediate shot of high-protein, palatable 
> stuff that most cats will like a lot, a/d should definitely be in most
folks'
> homes.
> 
> so much for my humility.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D

[Sander, Sue]

What is the full name of A/D - like if I went to the pet store, what
would I ask for?

Thanks,

Susan 

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Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 12:44 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D

the benefit of a/d is the consistency/texture: MUCH easier to
syringe-feed than most things you can prepare yourself. baby food is a
good texture, but for an immediate shot of high-protein, palatable stuff
that most cats will like a lot, a/d should definitely be in most folks'
homes.

so much for my humility.
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Re: [Felvtalk] sad news

[Sander, Sue]

Jaci,

I am so sorry for your grief.  How long was BB sick?  He is now at
peace.

Susan 

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Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 11:11 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] sad news

Hello everyone, 

I'm sad to say that I lost my BB todayhe was a brave boy who went as
far as he could in this life.? I got to be there and hold him one last
time as he went to sleep.? Thanks to everyone for their
kindnessthere will always be a place in my heart, and a piece
missing from my life for my sweet BB.? Thanks also for this forum and
the information that you are trying to spread about this horrible
disease.? 

Jaci


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Sent: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 9:16 am
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Aspirin for cats.



1/4 baby aspirin every 3 days

--- On Sat, 5/30/09, Lorrie  wrote:


From: Lorrie 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Aspirin for cats.
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Saturday, May 30, 2009, 9:41 AM


Two different vets told me one whole baby aspirin (enteric coated) every
48 hours, for full grown cats, was the proper does.

Lorrie

On 05-29, Diane Rosenfeldt wrote:
> Jody,
> 
> Did the vet say a whole baby aspirin?? On the internet I'm seeing that

> the recommended dose is 1/4 of a baby aspirin every 3 or 4 days, since

> cats' livers don't process aspirin very well.? It's not common but not

> unheard of for a vet to prescribe aspirin, but usually a mini-dose as 
> described.? Is there an emergency vet where you live that you can call

> to check whether the dose you gave Darcy is okay?? I'm not trying to 
> scare you (I know, probably too late for that) but if another vet 
> thinks the dose your vet said is okay, then it probably is, but if it 
> isn't you'll want to know that asap, right?
> 
> I would assume you have checked the incision site for inflammation?? 
> 
> Here are big vibes that Darcy feels better very soon without further 
> intervention.? Hugs to you.
> 
> Diane R.
> 
>? 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jody Butler
> Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 10:37 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: [Felvtalk] Thoughts & Prayers Needed for Darcy
> 
> Our sweet baby, Darcy, ten months old and FeLV+ was neutered on 
> Tuesday.? We brought her home Wednesday and she seemed okay, 
> considering she'd just had surgery.
> ?
> Yesterday she was in more pain, but we just figured the pain shot 
> they'd given that was supposed to be good for two days was wearing
off.
> ?
> Today is even worse.? I called the vet this AM.? She suggested giving 
> a baby aspirin, which I did before going to work.
> ?
> Tonight, she barely lifts her head and is mewing so pitifully.? She a
te some
> earlier in the day but won't eat tonight.? I called the vet again, and

> she had me give 1/8 of an antibiotic and we'll bring her in tomorrow 
> morning first thing.? We've had other FeLV kitties neutered with no 
> troubles, but I'm getting scared tonight.
> ?
> I just needed to share this tonight.? Any encouraging words or 
> suggestions are greatly appreciated!
> ?
> Jody (& Darcy)
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Re: [Felvtalk] Cherry Please add to the CLS :(

[Sander, Sue]

Jaci,  I am so sorry.  How old is Jaci?  I am learning about feline
leukemia so I can't respond to any of your questions.

Susan 

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Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2009 10:39 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cherry Please add to the CLS :(

Hello Everyone,

I'm new to this forum and have recently learned that my sweet boy, BB
was diagnosed positive with Feline Leukemia and cancerous tumors in the
bone marrow.? I was wondering if any of you knew what stage of the
disease tumors in the bone marrow were?? My sweet BB is on prednisone,
although I don't think the dosage is enough because he's still lethargic
and weak.? The?cancer in the bone marrow is making him anemic.? Is there
anything you guys can tell me about what I can do for him?? I hate to
see him this way...I love him so much.? And to be honest, I'm scared
that I don't have much time left with him because his appetite is
poor..he'll nibble on food but doesn't drink much water.? The Vet seems
to think that BB contracted the virus as a kitten and it's been dormant
until now.? I'm so sorry to hear of all the other kitties that have died
from this terrible illness.

Thank you,
Jaci


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To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Sat, 6 Jun 2009 10:41 pm
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cherry Please add to the CLS :(



It's heartbreaking Sherry--I'm so sorry to hear about Cherry. 
She sounds a real sweetie. And at least she knew she was deeply and
surely loved.
big hugs, and a million thanks to Dr Jen for all she does.  So hard.
Kerry




From: Sherry DeHaan 
To: Felvtalk 
Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2009 6:31:48 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Cherry  Please add to the CLS  :(

Jens words
 I sent her over the Rainbow Bridge with a kiss on the forehead and
tears in my 
eyes; for her, for Dani, for Champ, for Adam and for tiger Lily.  Those
we have 
loved and lost.
 
We lost our sweet one eyed Cherry.She was a loving lap cat who begged
for your 
attention,and ALWAYS got it.
It has been a tough week for us volunteers and Wondwerful Dr. Jen.
 
 
 


 
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than our own,
Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Sudden passing?

[Sander, Sue]

I am not going through your grief but that was a wonderful way for her
to die.  

I didn't know about holistic vets.  Thank you for mentioning it.  What
is an "02 Tent"? 

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Cougar Clan
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 9:36 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Sudden passing?

She stumbled the day before she died so I made a call to Middletown
Animal Clinic in Louisville, KY (her regular vets) and we made a Code
3 run from my farm (120 miles).  Her vet waited for us; we tried lots of
things and I took her to her holistic vet, put her in an O2 tent etc.
She just couldn't make it.  Luckily she died beside me in the Jeep (we
were going to my home with O2 to fix her a tent there).  She left in a
safe spot, unassisted by the vets she hated.
On Jun 2, 2009, at 8:31 AM, Susan Finkelstein wrote:

>
> How did you know it was anemia? Did you have a necropsy done?
> S.
>
>> From: maima...@duo-county.com
>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>> Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 08:29:33 -0500
>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Sudden passing?
>>
>> Dixie left suddenly.  Anemia.  She seemed fine until a day before she

>> left this world.
>> On Jun 2, 2009, at 8:23 AM, Susan Finkelstein wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> My FeLV+ 5-year-old (or so) kitty died suddenly over the weekend and

>>> I was wondering if anyone has had any similar experiences or heard 
>>> of any with otherwise (seemingly) healthy leuk-positive cats. He 
>>> seemed fine, thriving in fact: plump, nice coat, good appetite, good

>>> stool, active, affectionate. I found him curled up as if he were 
>>> sleeping comfortably but he was gone. Thinking back, he may have 
>>> seemed slightly lethargic for a day or two beforehand, but not 
>>> enough to warrant any concern at the time on my part. Does anyone 
>>> know if this happens -- a heart thing? Stroke? Needless to say, the 
>>> only other FeLV+ cat in the household (they were sequestered
>>> together) seems kinda lost, and I am a bit worried that he will be 
>>> affected physically.
>>> Thanks!
>>> Susan
>>>
>>>
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>>
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Re: [Felvtalk] Sudden passing?

[Sander, Sue]

Susan,  I don't know much about FeLV cats and am new to this list.  I
may seem COLD saying this but I hope Sammie will die like your cat.  I
realize it's very difficult but my greatest fear is to see Sammie
suffer.  

I do feel very sorry for your other cat.  I hope he will be OK.

Never have I heard such stories about FeLV - I didn't know what FeLV was
until last Thursday and it's heartbreaking.

Susan

 

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Finkelstein
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 9:23 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Sudden passing?


My FeLV+ 5-year-old (or so) kitty died suddenly over the weekend and I
was wondering if anyone has had any similar experiences or heard of any
with otherwise (seemingly) healthy leuk-positive cats. He seemed fine,
thriving in fact: plump, nice coat, good appetite, good stool, active,
affectionate. I found him curled up as if he were sleeping comfortably
but he was gone. Thinking back, he may have seemed slightly lethargic
for a day or two beforehand, but not enough to warrant any concern at
the time on my part. Does anyone know if this happens -- a heart thing?
Stroke? Needless to say, the only other FeLV+ cat in the household (they
were sequestered together) seems kinda lost, and I am a bit worried that
he will be affected physically. 
Thanks!
Susan




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Re: [Felvtalk] Thoughts & Prayers Needed for Darcy

[Sander, Sue]

How do you assist feed a cat? 

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaryChristine
Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2009 12:35 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
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echoing kerry's thoughts, and everyone else's prayers--please let us
know what the vet has to say--spaying is usually a simple,
straight-forward procedure, but even when complications do arise, they
usually can be overcome. GLOW for the little one!

MC

On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 11:09 AM, Kerry MacKenzie
wrote:

> Sending prayers for sweet Darcy. The exact same thing happened with my

> FeLV Flavia and she recovered:
> She did so badly after her spay (the boys all did fine; it's the 
> females that have it harder), that when i took her to the vet as an 
> emergency I was totally distraught thinking she would have to be 
> euthanized (a housecall vet who came the night before and gave her 
> fluids had basically washed his hands of her in the morning when I
called to tell him she was still not eating).
>  My *new* vet showed me how to assist feed her--which made all the 
> difference. So important to get those calories inside. I'm sure she 
> gave her antibiotics too, maybe even more painkiller but i can't 
> recall. She recovered beautifully.
> Please let us know how Darcy does.  Darcy and her mom are in my
thoughts.
> hugs, Kerry
>
>
>  Our sweet baby, Darcy, ten months old and FeLV+ was neutered on
Tuesday.
>>  We brought her home Wednesday and she seemed okay, considering she'd

>> just had surgery.
>>
>> Yesterday she was in more pain, but we just figured the pain shot 
>> they'd given that was supposed to be good for two days was wearing
off.
>>
>> Today is even worse.  I called the vet this AM.  She suggested giving

>> a baby aspirin, which I did before going to work.
>>
>> Tonight, she barely lifts her head and is mewing so pitifully.  She 
>> ate some earlier in the day but won't eat tonight.  I called the vet 
>> again, and she had me give 1/8 of an antibiotic and we'll bring her 
>> in tomorrow morning first thing.  We've had other FeLV kitties 
>> neutered with no troubles, but I'm getting scared tonight.
>>
>> I just needed to share this tonight.  Any encouraging words or 
>> suggestions are greatly appreciated!
>>
>> Jody (& Darcy)
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Re: [Felvtalk] Laura is gone

[Sander, Sue]

I am so sorry for you. 

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Laurieskatz
Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 12:18 PM
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I am so sorry


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Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 8:27 AM
To: felvt...@felineleukemia
Subject: [Felvtalk] Laura is gone

One week ago today I had to let Laura go, she was losing the fight.  She had 
been acting "off" for about a month, we took her to see my vet and her labs 
were awful.  We tried a course of Pred, and did get a small rally, but at the 
beginning of last week she started fading again, we could tell it was time.
 
I miss her immensely, she was the sweetest girl, she would have been three on 
June 2.  I really hate this disease, it robs our young kitties of life, and 
there is no hope.
 
Hug your kitties,
 
Human Laura


  
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