Re: [Felvtalk] Kitten tossed out of car

2017-08-01 Thread Ardy Robertson
In Eau Claire (west central Wisconsin) recently, there have been some hideous things happening to, of all things, guinea pigs, along with several cats. Police have been finding mutilated corpses of the animals (29 in one group). And that's what I thought too - what courage, to take their anger or

Re: [Felvtalk] Kitten tossed out of car

2017-08-01 Thread Ardy Robertson
My granddaughter will keep in touch with the gal who picked up the kitty after he hit her windshield. Can you imagine how awful she must have felt. I am just relieved that she didn’t have an accident. I will keep in touch to see how the kitty is doing, and also to see if they find the one who

[Felvtalk] Kitten on Highway

2017-07-31 Thread ROBERT CHAPEL
Ardy You have a much more even temperment than me when it comes to such matters There is NO question that I will end up in prison if I am caught doing what I KNOW I am capable of doing to a person that is this callous toward ANY living creature... but Housepets in particular... There

[Felvtalk] Unspeakable evil

2017-07-31 Thread Jennifer Olson
Stories like this kitten thrown from a moving car are TOO common. Force Change, Change.org & Animalpetitions.org are a few places that have petitions for protecting snimals and seeking justice. Jen ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] Kitten tossed out of car

2017-07-31 Thread Amy Glunt
Makes me sick! Just about a month ago I picked up a kitten off the side of the road that had been tossed out of a car. He's recovered well and is napping next to me on the couch. Fortunately none of his injuries were internal or very serious, but it just makes you rage inside. Who'd do

Re: [Felvtalk] Kitten tossed out of car

2017-07-31 Thread Amani Oakley
Ardy - generally, I am not supportive of the death penalty, but I would gladly make an exception for barbarians like those you describe, and I would just as happily be the executioner. This is not the first time I have heard this same hideous story. Several years ago in Toronto, Ontario, the

[Felvtalk] Kitten tossed out of car

2017-07-31 Thread Ardy Robertson
Hello my Felv friends this is a little off-topic, but I have to vent: My granddaughter texted me this afternoon that a Facebook friend of hers was driving from our city to a neighboring town, when the vehicle ahead of her tossed a kitten out of the car window at 60 mph!! The poor little babe

Re: [Felvtalk] dlegg

2017-07-29 Thread dlgegg
hasn't happened, still 1 more test on the 7th. I am glad they are being through, but am getting tired of waiting and not being able to do anything. Jennifer Olson wrote: > How are YOU dlegg after your surgery? ___ Felvtalk

[Felvtalk] dlegg

2017-07-28 Thread Jennifer Olson
How are YOU dlegg after your surgery? ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

[Felvtalk] Post-Op

2017-07-28 Thread Jennifer Olson
Bob, How are you ? ? ? Jen ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] A suggestion that could make it easier to keep up with posts...

2017-07-26 Thread Pam Doore
I have made a similiar request to our board members and they never do it either. Drives me crazy! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

[Felvtalk] A suggestion that could make it easier to keep up with posts...

2017-07-26 Thread Lorrie
I'm in 6 cat groups and all the moderators ask us to delete messages that are no longer being discussed. They also ask us to change the subject line when a new topic is being discussed. Regardless, no one does this. I always delete unnecessary stuff, but almost everyone else sends LONG posts

Re: [Felvtalk] A suggestion that could make it easier to keep up with posts...

2017-07-26 Thread dlgegg
good idea! will do this from now on. Dorlis ROBERT CHAPEL wrote: > When we reply ( apparently it doesn't make much difference if we hit reply or reply all) it would be helpful to erase those parts of the posting that reference earlier discussions and do not have

Re: [Felvtalk] Surgery

2017-07-25 Thread Pam Doore
Hi Deloris! I pray your surgery and recovery goes well! Praise the Lord for good helper for your babies! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] eliminating extraneous text

2017-07-25 Thread Pam Doore
> >> Hi Bob, I think you suggetion is a good one :-). It is particularly >> hard for me to follow so many emails in the same conversations on my phone >> when they are clumped as one conversation :). >> > ___ Felvtalk mailing list

Re: [Felvtalk] eliminating extraneous text

2017-07-25 Thread ROBERT CHAPEL
OK I made this suggestion and the last two STILL had all the text...  I am HOPEing that this time the text remains eliminated Bob On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 12:07 AM, felvtalk-requ...@felineleukemia.org wrote: Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to

Re: [Felvtalk] A suggestion that could make it easier to keep up with posts...

2017-07-24 Thread ROBERT CHAPEL
When we reply ( apparently it doesn't make much difference if we hit reply or reply all) it would be helpful to erase those parts of the posting that reference earlier discussions and do not have relevance to the current posting  This also prevents having your message held up because it

Re: [Felvtalk] Surgery

2017-07-24 Thread dlgegg
If onlyeveryone who has a cat or dog would get them spayed/neutered there would not be so many for us to care for. I have heard all kinds of excuses like it costs so much. If they did get their pets spayed/neutered they would not have the work involved in getting rid of them. When a new

Re: [Felvtalk] Surgery

2017-07-24 Thread dlgegg
HELLO, MY FAULT. I FORGOT TO PUT MY NAME IN THERE. DORLIS GROTE I am lucky that a member of my church is going to take care of my babies while I am in the hospital for the surgery. She is also taking me in and picking me up afterwards. Plus getting groceries and doing any needed laundry

Re: [Felvtalk] Surgery

2017-07-24 Thread ROBERT CHAPEL
Hello Everyone... Thank you so much for your concerns about " my " surgery but it is an unfortunate result of the structure of the mailings that this mistake was made    I am not having heart surgery : )  Believe it is our member whose email is dlegg ( wish people would put their

Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats..

2017-07-24 Thread Amani Oakley
Everything we tested was positive, and Zander most certainly had FeLV. Interestingly enough, when I was able to successfully treat him with the Winstrol/Doxy/Prednisone protocol, later vets started musing that perhaps he never had FeLV. After all, they certainly couldn't admit that a drug they

Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats..

2017-07-24 Thread Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium
And The IFA test was also positive? Skylar tested positive since he had him which is almost 2 years. -Original Message- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amani Oakley Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 2:45 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject:

Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats..

2017-07-24 Thread Amani Oakley
We were sure all sorts of bad things were going to happen after we found out that Zander was FeLV+. Not only didn't any of the others contract it, but he was very close to several of them and would cuddle and mutually groom each other. At first, this made me very anxious and I would separate

Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats..

2017-07-24 Thread Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium
Skylar seems to want to wrestle last time I let him out and I was afraid so I let him run and I run behind him. I guess I could keep doing that and keep him away from the FIV one. I feel so bad for him. He is alone and he hates the dog so he has no one but me. Thanks for telling me, I will

Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats..

2017-07-24 Thread Amani Oakley
Sheila I had a FeLV positive boy (Zander) for seven years with all my other cats. No one else got it. By the time we figured out he was FeLV positive, he had been with my other cats for more than a year, so I figured that any harm that was going to be done, had already been done. Since then, I

Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats..

2017-07-24 Thread Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium
My 2nd job at the vet gives me a break on all the medicines and neutered and if we find kittens, he will take them and we adopt them out. it's a full time job with all these animals. My husband takes care of them when I work my long days -Original Message- From: Felvtalk

Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats..

2017-07-24 Thread dlgegg
I am lucky, found a vet who goes along with me especially re: felv treatment. Sandy wrote: > > It seems to me, each one of us has a different vet - and each vet seems to > have a differing opinion - it's what they "learned" in school and unless they > seek to

Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats..

2017-07-24 Thread dlgegg
I get a lot of drop offs too. People seem to think that left in a farming area, they can fend for themselves, even the de clawed ones. "Armstrong-Brown wrote: > No one helps me Bob. I started a 2nd job at an animal hospital so I can get > the discount on all the cats. It's still very

Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats..

2017-07-24 Thread dlgegg
I have mixed positive and negative cats for years and no negatives have contracted the disease. They share beds (mine) bowls and boxes. At first when the negatives were young, I had them vacinnated, now I do not they are all at least 13 years old. Marlene Snowman

Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats..

2017-07-24 Thread Sandy
It seems to me, each one of us has a different vet - and each vet seems to have a differing opinion - it's what they "learned" in school and unless they seek to know more and better info continue with the same practices and opinions- such as the "yearly" vaccine protocol. I guess it's like

Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats..

2017-07-24 Thread Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium
I have the same set up, a door with plexi so he can see the other animals. He has a bed and tv and 2 big rooms to run around, I just feel bad that he is alone most of the time until I get home and we watch TV together for acouple. I am scared of that vaccines b/c of the dangers I hear about.

Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats..

2017-07-24 Thread Gloria
Sheila, my 2 cents- - for me - it's not just spreading the FeLV to others, it the autoimmune problem of not being able to fight off viruses or diseases that they could get from other cats. I have Buddy in our guest room - in a controlled environment- we replaced the door with another

Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats..

2017-07-24 Thread Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium
Thank you . I love them all but a vacation one year might be nice. Too many animals to leave and go away. I don’t trust many to actually be able to medicine the ones that need it. Just the soft food is $60 a week. Besides the 25 pounds of dry food. From: Felvtalk

Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats..

2017-07-24 Thread Sheri Burbridge
Sheila, in my (completely unprofessional) opinion, the vaccine is a good idea for your cats that are currently healthy. If it were me, I'd keep the FIV and FeLV separated just because they already have compromised immune systems and any illness they come in contact with could really be

Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats..

2017-07-24 Thread Marlene Snowman
My vet believes so although has made it clear that no vaccine is 100 percent effective and that an older cat with an established immune system has more chances. Who really knows Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 24, 2017, at 10:03 AM, Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium >

Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats..

2017-07-24 Thread Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium
So you believe the vaccine does work then? I thought about getting it for all 13 indoors but I want to still keep the FIV and FELV separated. Thanks for the info -Original Message- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marlene Snowman Sent: Monday,

Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats..

2017-07-24 Thread Marlene Snowman
I have a Felv 2 year old who I did introduce to my 7 year old non. The 7 year old has been vaccinated and retested over the 2 years and remains negative. The Felv has no visual signs of illness. I maintain separate litter boxes that get cleaned daily and separate dishes that are also cleaned

Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats..

2017-07-24 Thread Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium
I heard the leukemia vaccine carries a high risk of cancer. Does anyone have their FELV cat around non-felv cats? I thought about letting Skylar out only while I am home and see how it goes with the regular cats. But I have a FIV cat in the mix of the other cats and not sure if they would

Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats..

2017-07-24 Thread Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium
No one helps me Bob. I started a 2nd job at an animal hospital so I can get the discount on all the cats. It's still very expensive. No fosters, they stray in to the farm and people drop off sickly animals and all the humane society would say is that if I turned the cats in to them, they

Re: [Felvtalk] Sending prayers up for you!

2017-07-22 Thread dlgegg
pRAYERS FOR EVERY ONE. Jennifer Olson wrote: > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

[Felvtalk] Sending prayers up for you!

2017-07-22 Thread Jennifer Olson
___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] Surgery (was:Checking in.....)

2017-07-22 Thread Sandy
Robert, I pray all will go well with your surgery!! Sandy W - Original Message - From: "kat" To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 9:32:13 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Surgery (was:Checking in.) I will be keeping you in my thoughts

Re: [Felvtalk] Surgery (was:Checking in.....)

2017-07-21 Thread kat
I will be keeping you in my thoughts & prayers!!  Please let us know when you are back home.   Kat (Mew Jersey)   Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 at 8:04 PM From: dlg...@windstream.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Cc: "ROBERT CHAPEL" Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking

Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in.....

2017-07-21 Thread dlgegg
I HAVEN'T GOTTEN MUCH MAIL, BUT HAVE BEEN BUSY PREPARING FOR OPEN HEART SURGERY AND MAKING ARRANGEMENTS FOR CARE FOR THE CATS AND MY GARDEN. MEMBERS OF THE CHURCH ARE GOING TO HELP ME WHEN I COME HOME FROM SURGERY AND THE DOCTOR TOLD ME I CAN FEED, WATER AND CLEAN BOXES AND FIX MY OWN MEALS

Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in.....

2017-07-21 Thread dlgegg
Sheri Burbridge wrote: > Hi there! Things have been quiet around here but I was sincerely hoping > that meant everyone was doing really well! > > Bob, I'm glad to hear little Gilbert is still with you and comfortable > despite his prognosis. How wonderful that he has

Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats..

2017-07-21 Thread ROBERT CHAPEL
Hi Sheila... Wonder if you have anyone helping you with Cat Care ( or expenses) that is a lot of cats to look after and the expense could get rather overwhelming. are some of them fosters??? Bob On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 10:06 AM, felvtalk-requ...@felineleukemia.org wrote: Send

Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in.....

2017-07-21 Thread Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium
I am by Gettysburg PA. From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Pam Doore Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 1:12 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in. I live in western ny if that helps. On Jul 21, 2017 12:54 PM, "Armstrong-Brown,

Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in.....

2017-07-21 Thread Pam Doore
I live in western ny if that helps. On Jul 21, 2017 12:54 PM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" < sheila.armstrong-br...@ssa.gov> wrote: > I tried, I was going to get him a rabbit but Skylar is huge and would kill > it. I tried to see if he liked my dog and my dog scares the hell out of >

Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in.....

2017-07-21 Thread Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium
I tried, I was going to get him a rabbit but Skylar is huge and would kill it. I tried to see if he liked my dog and my dog scares the hell out of him and the dog is old. LOL have a nice weekend. I wanted to find someone who lived close who had an FELV Cat so we could see how they did

Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in.....

2017-07-21 Thread Pam Doore
You could vaccinate one of yours against felv. or maybe a different species for him to watch like a fish tank, bird feeders outside of room, or if you have a smart tv..paul dinning videos on youtube are a favorite of mine and my girls :). Mozart and Miko did everything together. Their mom, Ally

Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in.....

2017-07-21 Thread Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium
I am scared to get him a friend since I have 14 other cats in the house. He is alone in a big area of the house. But I am not sure if him and another cat would spread germs back and forth. My cat clan is up to 28 cats. Insane. From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On

Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in.....

2017-07-21 Thread Pam Doore
I understand Sheila! I have my first too, actually Mom and her kittens. One kitten passed away.and the other is 15 months old. Plus I took another FeLv+ cat from out shelter. I will probably end up adopting her too :). On Jul 21, 2017 8:34 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" <

Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in.....

2017-07-21 Thread Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium
No, he said it was no big deal at all. I just worry. This is my first FELV cat. From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Pam Doore Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 8:21 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in. Sheila did your vet

Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in.....

2017-07-21 Thread Pam Doore
Sheila did your vet seem concerned about the higher cholesterol? On Jul 21, 2017 7:44 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" < sheila.armstrong-br...@ssa.gov> wrote: > It was part of a blood panel I had done on him. I get bloodwork every 6 > months and I thought it was odd too. > >

Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in.....

2017-07-21 Thread Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium
It was part of a blood panel I had done on him. I get bloodwork every 6 months and I thought it was odd too. -Original Message- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dlg...@windstream.net Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 6:57 PM To:

Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in.....

2017-07-20 Thread dlgegg
I have never had anyone tell me my cats needed cholesterol tested. i was beginning to wonder if the list was still there, had not heard anything. Amani Oakley wrote: > It if were me, I would ignore the cholesterol. It is nonsensical in cats (and > being called

Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in.....

2017-07-20 Thread Sheri Burbridge
Hi there! Things have been quiet around here but I was sincerely hoping that meant everyone was doing really well! Bob, I'm glad to hear little Gilbert is still with you and comfortable despite his prognosis. How wonderful that he has had such a good home with you during this time. My girl

Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in.....

2017-07-20 Thread Amani Oakley
Not at all related. I have no idea why a cholesterol would even be run on a young kitty like that. Even with an older cat, it is seriously questionable whether cholesterol has any relevance. Amani From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Armstrong-Brown, Sheila

Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in.....

2017-07-20 Thread Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium
Ok thanks, wasn’t sure if I was giving him too many treats. From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amani Oakley Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 11:50 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in. It if were me, I would ignore the

Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in.....

2017-07-20 Thread Amani Oakley
It if were me, I would ignore the cholesterol. It is nonsensical in cats (and being called into question in humans too). Amani From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium Sent: July-20-17 10:37 AM To:

Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in.....

2017-07-20 Thread Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium
My son Skylar is doing well and his 6 month bloodwork came back great. High cholesterol is all. No idea why that would be. He is now 2 1/2 years old, I hope he is around a long time. From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of ROBERT CHAPEL Sent: Thursday, July

Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in.....

2017-07-20 Thread kat
Hi Bob,   Thank you for the update on Gilbert!   There hasn't been much in the way of messages in the group - hoping this is a good thing.   Kat (Mew Jersey)   Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 at 10:28 AM From: "ROBERT CHAPEL" To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: 

[Felvtalk] Checking in.....

2017-07-20 Thread ROBERT CHAPEL
Things have been very quiet on the group lately...OR... I am once again not getting group mail Has there been activity I've missed?? My Hospice Boy ( Gilbert) is doing quite well for the moment but ( as we all know with such things it could change any minute...so I'll just enjoy it while

Re: [Felvtalk] Doxycycline

2017-06-26 Thread Ardy Robertson
Amani - this is very interesting, at least the part that I understood :) I agree that Big Pharma seems to just follow the money, it's not about helping our fellow man (or kitty) anymore, sadly. And banning certain medicines because of their stigma, or potential use is just silly!!! Ardy

Re: [Felvtalk] Preventing Stress

2017-06-26 Thread Ardy Robertson
Agree!! Ardy -Original Message- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dlg...@windstream.net Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2017 12:52 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Preventing Stress Prayer does a lot, I know. I was supposed to

Re: [Felvtalk] Destiny

2017-06-26 Thread Ardy Robertson
Marilyn, Your thought about being glad you didn't know when you first got her is EXACTLY the way I felt about my dear Tigger. He was near death when we found him - we thought due to starvation, and he quickly bounced back after proper care for a while. We also may not have kept him had we

Re: [Felvtalk] Destiny

2017-06-26 Thread Sheri Burbridge
Marilyn, I'm so sorry you had to say goodbye to little Destiny, she sounds like such a sweet soul. Thank you for loving her through to the end, she was lucky to have you! Sheri On Mon, Jun 26, 2017, 7:33 AM Katherine K. wrote: > Marilyn, I'm so sorry about your loss of

Re: [Felvtalk] Destiny

2017-06-26 Thread Katherine K.
Marilyn, I'm so sorry about your loss of Destiny, but she will ALWAYS be with you in your heart. She sounds like a beautiful little soul! May you find comfort in the memories you shared together. On Sat, Jun 24, 2017 at 11:58 AM, Gloria wrote: > Marilyn, > This pain you

Re: [Felvtalk] Gilbert...

2017-06-25 Thread Pam Doore
I have been a foster failure 4 times. Once I saw how well the foster's did with the the other cats and I fell in love, they had to stay :-D. As far as treating shelter pets, I know that at my shelter there is a set amount per pet and anything above that comes from a special account which has

Re: [Felvtalk] Gilbert...

2017-06-25 Thread dlgegg
They do get under our skin and become a necessary to our lives. I have 3 15 pounders who think I am a mattress for them to sleep on. Thank God they take turns. Does Gilbert like to KNEED a lot? Homey gets into a trance and digs deeply so I have had to explain to doctors what all those

Re: [Felvtalk] Gilbert...

2017-06-25 Thread ROBERT CHAPEL
Amani... As always... thank you for the advice and all the other references to research ( Doxy, Cannabinol) that can be helpful down the road...   In the case of Gilbert it is perplexing that they are so withholding re: drugs.  Gilbert is a favorite of everyone and no one wants to see him

Re: [Felvtalk] Destiny..

2017-06-25 Thread dlgegg
I have learned from Annie and others that I need to check out every possibility, not just the obvious. Had I done so, we might have caught the kidney problem in time. My vet has since done some research and found that with FELV cats, kidney problem are one of the first signs, just sorry that

Re: [Felvtalk] Gilbert

2017-06-25 Thread Amani Oakley
Bob I know you have had trouble with the clinic in terms of offering you medications, but if it were me, I would also want to try dexamethasone by injection if possible. It is much more powerful than the prednisone in reducing swelling and helping in reducing pain and neurological symptoms in

Re: [Felvtalk] Destiny..

2017-06-25 Thread Marilyn Knapp Litt
I am so sorry to hear about Gilbert. This sounds like much the same progression. The sinus drip was from the pressure, although we didn't know that. We just knew it was not bacterial. Her head started to swell and she didn't have the energy or strength to go to her favorite spots. (The

Re: [Felvtalk] Destiny..

2017-06-25 Thread ROBERT CHAPEL
Marilyn... So Sorry to  hear about Destiny... was afraid it was something like this when it was discovered  that she was FeLV+  My Current Cat ( Gilbert) is suffering much the same fate ( apart from the FeLV)... I am keeping him on Prednisolone to keep the tumor in check for as long as we

Re: [Felvtalk] Doxycycline

2017-06-25 Thread Amani Oakley
Ardy - there are a number of publications which deal with the mode of action of Doxycycline and its antiviral properties. It doesn’t kill the virus but inhibits its replication, sometimes by interfering with cell wall development and other times by preventing the virus from penetrating cells.

Re: [Felvtalk] Preventing Stress

2017-06-24 Thread dlgegg
Prayer does a lot, I know. I was supposed to die over 12 years ago from 4th stage cancer. Gloria wrote: > I agree about Preventing Stress whenever we can! > > I've chosen _not knowing_ for sure just because of that very thing - (stress > of vet visits &

Re: [Felvtalk] Destiny

2017-06-24 Thread Gloria
Marilyn, This pain you are experiencing is because she was so loved and left a huge hole in your heart. She is forever in your memory-protected treasure beyond words, I am so sorry and sad for you! Gloria -g  Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 23, 2017, at 11:03 PM, Amani Oakley

[Felvtalk] Preventing Stress

2017-06-24 Thread Gloria
I agree about Preventing Stress whenever we can! I've chosen _not knowing_ for sure just because of that very thing - (stress of vet visits & testing) especially with the testing results being of question. I deep massage from head to toe - he loves his belly & chest, under his forelegs, toes -

Re: [Felvtalk] Destiny

2017-06-24 Thread Marilyn Knapp Litt
The record does not specify the type of test done initially. The most recent test was done in house and a drop of blood was put in a solution to change color. It was very hard to see that it was positive. The vet thought it was negative, but a tech pointed out a faint blue line that meant

Re: [Felvtalk] Destiny

2017-06-24 Thread Marilyn Knapp Litt
I have no idea. Was the test result wrong initially? My current vet thinks she was born with it or had it when we found her at 2 months. I would advise all cats be tested; people need to know if their cat needs extra care, but I am glad we did not know. Had we known, we would not have kept

Re: [Felvtalk] Destiny

2017-06-24 Thread Corinne Shank
Marilyn, I am so sorry for your loss. I know how difficult it must be. I am curious though about what type of Felv test you had done. There is the Elisa test which is usually done in house and the IFA test which is done via a blood test at a lab and is supposed to be more accurate. I have

Re: [Felvtalk] Destiny

2017-06-24 Thread Sandy
I'm so sorry Marilyn . Destiny sounds like a sweet and wonderful kitty cat. You certainly are s great guardian for your furry felines. Sandy W - Original Message - From: "Ardy Robertson" To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2017 9:27:33 AM

Re: [Felvtalk] LysineI

2017-06-24 Thread Pam Doore
I would be very interestes in doxy results stopping viruses. Working at a shelter I have seen plenty of chronic herpes. On Jun 24, 2017 9:36 AM, "Ardy Robertson" wrote: > Thanks Amani - I am also very intrigued by Doxycycline being able to, I > believe you said - possibly

Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine

2017-06-24 Thread Ardy Robertson
Thanks Amani - I am also very intrigued by Doxycycline being able to, I believe you said - possibly stop the FeLV virus from replicating. Is this being studied and tested by vets, schools, etc.? I also through it was said that the cannibas oil stopped the herpes virus of cold sores - my word -

Re: [Felvtalk] Destiny

2017-06-24 Thread Pam Doore
Marilyn I send you my deepest empathy for Destiny and her crossing the Rainbow Bridge! hugs! Pam On Jun 24, 2017 12:33 AM, "Marilyn Knapp Litt" wrote: > Just wanted to give you kind souls an update on my sweet Destiny. I > helped her cross the bridge last week, just a

Re: [Felvtalk] Destiny

2017-06-24 Thread Ardy Robertson
Oh Marilyn, Destiny sounds like she was such a beautiful kitty -- I'm happy she didn't have to suffer more. I am curious though - you said she tested negative for FeLV, and then had the vaccine and boosters, not exposed to FeLV outside. What more could a pet owner do! (I hate FeLV!!) Ardy

Re: [Felvtalk] Destiny

2017-06-24 Thread Amani Oakley
Marilyn I am so very sorry for your loss. I know you know how lucky Destiny was to have you caring so much for her. Amani -Original Message- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marilyn Knapp Litt Sent: June-24-17 12:34 AM To:

[Felvtalk] Destiny

2017-06-23 Thread Marilyn Knapp Litt
Just wanted to give you kind souls an update on my sweet Destiny. I helped her cross the bridge last week, just a few weeks after her diagnosis. The vet initially thought she had a nasal tumor, but tests were negative. On this visit it was clear she had deteriorated in a week and had the vet

Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine

2017-06-23 Thread Amani Oakley
I think they obtain it directly from growers or they go to states where it is legal, or they get a prescription. Amani -Original Message- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Ardy Robertson Sent: June-24-17 12:16 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine

2017-06-23 Thread Amani Oakley
Ardy, I think it was precisely because of my experience with Winstrol that I was open to the unthinkable thought that science and scientists weren’t always free to produce unbiased research, even when it could help a lot of animals or people. I am, first and foremost, a scientist by training

Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine

2017-06-23 Thread Ardy Robertson
Amy - could you purchase it online? I don't remember all the details, but I was told by a pharmacist several years ago (in Wisconsin where I live) that he was able to obtain medical marijuana for a cancer patient, and as far as I know it is not legal here. And of course I do know of people who

Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine

2017-06-23 Thread Ardy Robertson
Sort of like the stigma surrounding Winstrol due to the misuse of it by an Olympic athlete... people and animals who could be helped by it are not. People are crazy sometimes. Ardy -Original Message- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amani

Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine

2017-06-22 Thread dlgegg
Thanks. I got started with amazon when I broke my arm and could not carry heavy bags of liter and food and just stayed there. Will check out Chewy. Gloria wrote: > Topic was l-lysine FYI 邏 > > I shop Amazon, Petflow, and many other online pet supply stores and

Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine

2017-06-22 Thread Amani Oakley
Well, I guess that makes sense then! From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Pam Doore Sent: June-21-17 9:44 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine I was talking about lysine. ~~@~@~@~@~@ Christ beside me, Christ

Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine

2017-06-21 Thread Pam Doore
I was talking about lysine. ~~@~@~@~@~@ *Christ beside me, Christ before me, Christ behind me, Christ within me, Christ beneath me, Christ above me. — **St. Patrick* On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 8:18 PM, Amani Oakley wrote: > Huh?? > > > > Are you sure

Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine

2017-06-21 Thread Gloria
Topic was l-lysine FYI 邏 I shop Amazon, Petflow, and many other online pet supply stores and chewy.com has consistently been the best value and customer service. If you choose their autoship you can save more $$on selected products. They didn't pay me for this-I just want others to know so

Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine

2017-06-21 Thread Amani Oakley
Huh?? Are you sure it is cannabis oil and not a derivative of hemp which is sometimes confusingly called the same thing? Usually you need a prescription and to jump through a million hoops. I don’t think it is easily available. I just went to chewy.com, but don’t see it. I did a search on

Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine

2017-06-21 Thread Pam Doore
I get mine from chewy.com. I needs to be made for cats or it is bitter. Two of mine get the gel mixed in with flld 2x a day. The othet gets the treats, all from Chewy :-). On Jun 21, 2017 5:26 PM, wrote: > Okay, I am convinced. Next question is where do you get the safe

Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine

2017-06-21 Thread dlgegg
Okay, I am convinced. Next question is where do you get the safe stuff. There are many sources out there and I don't want to buy from a shady seller. Amani Oakley wrote: > Amy, you could have knocked me over with a feather too. I had some cannabis > oil I had

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