, beautiful
boyand he deserved better
Debbie (COL)
Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle Philo
From: twelvehousec...@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 16:47:15 -0400
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary
the problem is that way too many
{ COL } -- part of his job in this world was to teach you that hard,
hard lesson. you only fail him if you forget the lesson and don't share
it with others.
yur pal, MC
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Spay Neuter Your Neighbors!
Maybe That'll Make The Difference
MaryChristine
Special-Needs Coordinator,
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary
{ COL } -- part of his job in this world was to teach you that hard,
hard lesson. you only fail him if you forget the lesson and don't share
it with others.
yur pal, MC
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Spay Neuter Your Neighbors!
Maybe That'll Make The Difference
THANKYOU.CATHY
--- On Fri, 10/2/09, Stray Cat Alliance stray_cat_allia...@hotmail.com wrote:
From: Stray Cat Alliance stray_cat_allia...@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Friday, October 2, 2009, 11:12 AM
Here here! I wish we
...@hotmail.com
wrote:
From: Stray Cat Alliance stray_cat_allia...@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Friday, October 2, 2009, 11:12 AM
Here here! I wish we would no longer test at all. If a cat is sick,
they are sick. Treat that.
It just
amazing how things change when you learn the facts, isn't it? sometimes it
amazes me to realize that even less than ten years ago i actually thought
that a positive outdoor kitty breathing through a screen door at the
housecats could infect them.
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 2:40 PM, Gloria B. Lane
Ten years ago that's what the vet would have told you...I know, because they
did!
Debbie (COL)
Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle Philo
From: twelvehousec...@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 16:18:25 -0400
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA
the problem is that way too many still DO! but you know that.
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Spay Neuter Your Neighbors!
Maybe That'll Make The Difference
MaryChristine
Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org)
Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team)
i've seen a number of studies that give rates of infection in the wild, and
in housecat populations--i just don't remember where right now. in NO case
have any of them ever been above 10%, and i think it's actually under 5% for
both.
when they say, the two most prevalent fatal diseases in cats,
is morally and ethically right, rather than what is easy.
From: twelvehousec...@gmail.com
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 13:30:06 -0400
To: rchestert...@verizon.net
CC: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary
fyi, there is no evidence that FIVs are any less able to throw off
sorry, but that's not what happens in the real world. for years, we've been
trying to get research done in sanctuaries that actually have populations to
test, but as there's no money in it for phamaceutical companies, it hasn't
happened.
in real life, FIVs throw off FeLV just as the 70% of
I disagree on a few points.
The article on the Castaway Critters site is not that old - perhaps 3 or 4
years at most. I have spoken via email with Dr. Levy on several occasions - in
fact, in late 2008, regarding this very issue.
Some recent info from Dr. Levy and link to her info - also
i think that the stress issue is far more important, especially for ferals.
translocating to a sanctuary is not an issue with housecats, and while
living with large numbers of cats CAN be very stressful, when the cats are
somewhat socialized to people, it's quite possible to provide them with a
...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaryChristine
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 4:01 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Cc: rchestert...@verizon.net
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary
i think that the stress issue is far more important, especially for ferals
I just had a young adult male test FIV+, weak FELV+, and about 45 days later
FELV negative, confirmed on IFA.
On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 1:30 PM, MaryChristine twelvehousec...@gmail.comwrote:
fyi, there is no evidence that FIVs are any less able to throw off FeLV
than
are other cats--in fact,
: furrygi...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
CC: rchestert...@verizon.net
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary
I just had a young adult male test FIV+, weak FELV+, and about 45 days later
FELV negative, confirmed on IFA.
On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 1:30 PM, MaryChristine
twelvehousec
fyi, there is no evidence that FIVs are any less able to throw off FeLV than
are other cats--in fact, FIVs tend to be the healthiest populations in all
sanctuary settings.
while it might not be the optimum arrangement, until there are more places
who are willing to take positive of both sorts in,
...@windstream.net wrote:
From: dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Cc: Alice Hanson alicehans...@msn.com
Date: Sunday, August 30, 2009, 5:02 PM
do they ask for donations when you
send a cat there or do they leave that up
Maybe it is not such a bad idea if checking out a sanctuary to ask how long the
cats typically live. As well as how they are funded and what happens to the
cats should something happen to them, etc.
_
Windows Live: Make it easier
yes, a sanctuary in every ton would be ideal, but so would a world where people
did not hurt one another and animals just for the fun of it. until that tim,
we have to do the best we can for ourselves and our animals. try to live our
lives as an example to othersand hope they catch on. till
, August 30, 2009 1:40:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary
yes, a sanctuary in every ton would be ideal, but so would a world where people
did not hurt one another and animals just for the fun of it. until that tim,
we have to do the best we can for ourselves and our animals. try to live
if the cats have plenty of room to avoid a cat they don't like or that doesn't
like them, shelter, food and someone to scratch their chin, rub their back,
play with them a bit and lots of windows to look out, maybe even an outside
play room, i think they would think that ideal. my babies do.
PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary
I had the opportunity to visit the CW Rustic Hollow Shelter in IA.
Looking for a forever home for my cats when I die. They have a excellent set
up with multiple houses/buildings/barns. Each building is heated and has air
conditioning
: Sunday, August 30, 2009 1:40:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary
yes, a sanctuary in every ton would be ideal, but so would a world where
people did not hurt one another and animals just for the fun of it. until
that tim, we have to do the best we can for ourselves and our animals. try
a lot
longer.
Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 21:26:35 -0400
From: twelvehousec...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary
http://www.thebestlittlecathouseinpa.com/
On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 9:30 AM, Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com wrote:
Where
Harrisburg Pa.717 469-2540 Lynn Stitt. Cathy
.
--- On Sat, 5/30/09, MaryChristine twelvehousec...@gmail.com wrote:
From: MaryChristine twelvehousec...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Saturday, May 30, 2009, 9:26 PM
http
just to cause more trouble, as i'm so good at doing, not separating is NOT
necessarily the worse thing, if death is the only alternative. FIVs are
generally the healthiest populations at any sanctuary, and they throw off
FeLV at the same or possibly a higher rate than any other
Agree.
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From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaryChristine
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 2:10 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary
just to cause more trouble, as i'm so good
Wouldn't it depend on quality of life? Any sanctuary should be checked out
prior with a personal visit and some questions.
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 15:09:33 -0400
From: twelvehousec...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary
just to cause more
-0400
From: twelvehousec...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary
just to cause more trouble, as i'm so good at doing, not separating is
NOT
necessarily the worse thing, if death is the only alternative. FIVs are
generally the healthiest
of course if depends on quality of life, but you also have to have a
realistic definition of what that means. i've found that many people tend to
judge quality of life in human terms, and in light of what they would like
to be able to provide to a housecat--and that is NOT necessarily what a
I'd like to add - you can't have ANY quality of life if you are DEAD.
See The Fallacy of Fates Worse than Death by Nathan Winograd
http://www.nathanwinograd.com/?p=1076
On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 3:45 PM, MaryChristine twelvehousec...@gmail.comwrote:
of course if depends on quality of life, but
the ASPCA sends cats there.
--- On Mon, 6/1/09, Stray Cat Alliance stray_cat_allia...@hotmail.com wrote:
From: Stray Cat Alliance stray_cat_allia...@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Monday, June 1, 2009, 4:30 PM
Wouldn't it depend
twelvehousec...@gmail.com wrote:
From: MaryChristine twelvehousec...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Monday, June 1, 2009, 4:45 PM
of course if depends on quality of
life, but you also have to have a
realistic definition of what that means
: MaryChristine twelvehousec...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Monday, June 1, 2009, 4:45 PM
of course if depends on quality of
life, but you also have to have a
realistic definition of what that means. i've found that
many people tend to
judge
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 7:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary
I had the opportunity to visit the CW Rustic Hollow Shelter in IA. Looking
for a forever home for my cats when I die. They have a excellent set up with
multiple houses/buildings/barns. Each building is heated and has
: Sharylmailto:cline...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 7:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary
I had the opportunity to visit the CW Rustic Hollow Shelter in IA.
Looking for a forever home for my cats when I die
http://www.thebestlittlecathouseinpa.com/
On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 9:30 AM, Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com wrote:
Where is The Best Little Cat House in PA?
On 05-26, CATHERINE DIDONNA wrote: Where are you located? Where is
the Sanctuary? The best little cat house in Penn. will take him for
Where is The Best Little Cat House in PA?
On 05-26, CATHERINE DIDONNA wrote: Where are you located? Where is
the Sanctuary? The best little cat house in Penn. will take him for
free when there is room. Regards. C
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