[Felvtalk] ot-sneaker fip?

2008-12-06 Thread justinnlisa
Hello, I am desperately searching for a no kill shelter to take in three remaining kittens from a litter of 5 rescued a few months ago. We lost the first two to suspected fip (couldnt afford the biopsy to confirm). Already have 3 healthy permanently adopted rescues and no room at the inn for t

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2008-11-06 Thread catatonya
11/4/08, catatonya wrote: From: catatonya Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-sneaker fip? To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, November 4, 2008, 12:25 AM Hey Gloria, We've tried it. The problem is he's very difficult to pill. When I start him on antibiotics he runs and hides and I can'

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2008-11-06 Thread catatonya
day. She's hard to give meds to too. You should see if your vet can try that.Alice > Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 21:25:28 -0800> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: > felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-sneaker fip?> > Hey > Gloria,> > We've trie

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2008-11-04 Thread Sharyl
food and think they are getting a treat.   HTH Sharyl --- On Tue, 11/4/08, catatonya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: catatonya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-sneaker fip? To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, November 4, 2008, 12:25 AM Hey Gloria, We

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2008-11-04 Thread Alice hanson
our vet can try that.Alice > Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 21:25:28 -0800> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: > felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-sneaker fip?> > Hey > Gloria,> > We've tried it. The problem is he's very difficult to pill. When I > st

Re: [Felvtalk] ot-sneaker fip?

2008-11-03 Thread dlgegg
sounds like he is Snuggles reincarnated. good luck with him. will pray for you both, YOU will need it. dorlis catatonya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It doesn't feel like it's fluid. It doesn't sound like there's any fluid > when he listened to his chest the last time. (I was thinking as

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2008-11-03 Thread dlgegg
i don't know if they have something like this for the antibiotics he is getting, but my vet gave Annie an injection that lasts for 2 weeks. she also is difficult to pill, give liquids and is super good at hiding. she can get lost in our house very easy. my Snuggles also hated pills, liquids,

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2008-11-03 Thread catatonya
It doesn't feel like it's fluid. It doesn't sound like there's any fluid when he listened to his chest the last time. (I was thinking asthma or chf at that time). I just don't want to take him to the vet anymore. I don't see him for weeks after a vet visit. :( t MaryChristine <[EMAIL PROTE

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2008-11-03 Thread catatonya
His belly feels 'tight' to the touch. Can a cat keep an ongoing herpes infection that never worsens or improves much? Heather <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: A vet can usually tell if fluid in the stomach "feels like" the type of accumulation you find with FIP or not, if there is fluid, they will d

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2008-11-03 Thread catatonya
Hey Gloria, We've tried it. The problem is he's very difficult to pill. When I start him on antibiotics he runs and hides and I can't catch him for days... He has escaped at the vet's office twice (at two different vets) because he literally climbs the walls to escape! We have

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2008-11-03 Thread catatonya
great site. I'm going to assume if he's not got sicker over the past few months it must just be weight gain. He is eating more because he likes the wet food better. thanks, t Beth Noren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Here's a link with a good explanation: http://marvistavet.com/html/body_fip

Re: [Felvtalk] ot-sneaker fip?

2008-11-03 Thread catatonya
That's why I'm thinking it's not fip. This has been going on over a year (the breathing difficulty). The weight gain only for a few months. I would think he would have to show some other symptoms and be sicker than the breathing problem if it's fip, but he does have a fat belly. tha

Re: [Felvtalk] ot-sneaker fip?

2008-11-03 Thread catatonya
He's eating fine. The problem is he's 12 years old. Can cats 'harbor' fip like felv? tonya Beth Noren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Tonya, I lost one 12 week old to suspected wet FIP 2 years ago. She had a chronic URI and began having fevers that stopped responding to antibiotics. When her

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2008-11-03 Thread dlgegg
no, not paranoid. i at least call my vet when i notice something new and in this case, would probably take him in just to be sure. better to go in and catch something in early stages than wait. so people think you are nuts, that is their problem. dorlis catatonya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wro

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2008-11-03 Thread Saehwa Kang
, being spoiled by her human up in Northern Cali.:) -Original Message- From: Heather <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 6:58 am Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-sneaker fip? A vet can usually tell if fluid in the stomach "feels like&q

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2008-11-03 Thread Heather
good point, esp. w/regards to FIP, even some "good" vets don't know what they are talking about. On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 10:04 AM, MaryChristine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > GOOD vets can tell if the fluid feels like FIP, and GOOD vets will draw > fluid. i no longer presume that a vet is good witho

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2008-11-03 Thread MaryChristine
GOOD vets can tell if the fluid feels like FIP, and GOOD vets will draw fluid. i no longer presume that a vet is good without reason to. -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.

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2008-11-03 Thread Heather
A vet can usually tell if fluid in the stomach "feels like" the type of accumulation you find with FIP or not, if there is fluid, they will draw it to see if characterisitic of FIP (straw colored) but the fluid should still be tested. FIP is frequently misdiagnosed. And yes, many cats carry coro

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2008-11-03 Thread MaryChristine
gloria, i'd love to see the link between ANTIBIOTICS, herpes and lysine/arginine--since it's the latter the keeps the herpes from replicating. there was just some research about using lysine in shelter cats; it's on the winn feline foundation blog--if read incorrectly, makes it sound as if lysine d

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2008-11-03 Thread Gloria Lane
Hey Tonya, I might try some Azithromycin. It's become my latest discovery to try for the unknown. I've used it mostly in cats/kittens with problem eyes. I've read that some abx are said to affect Herpes, because of the relationship between the two amino acids lysine and arginine. The zit

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2008-11-02 Thread Beth Noren
Here's a link with a good explanation: http://marvistavet.com/html/body_fip.html Beth :o) On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 2:49 AM, Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That's it - thanks! > > On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 1:47 AM, Beth Noren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I think it's called Rivalta'

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2008-11-02 Thread Kelley Saveika
That's it - thanks! On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 1:47 AM, Beth Noren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think it's called Rivalta's test? > > Beth > > -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/

Re: [Felvtalk] ot-sneaker fip?

2008-11-02 Thread Beth Noren
I think it's called Rivalta's test? Beth On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 2:38 AM, Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > There is a test which MC will probably remember the name of that can rule > out FIP. Most vets do not know about it. If the cat does indeed have wet > FIP, the prognosis is ve

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2008-11-02 Thread Kelley Saveika
Well, it isn't a matter of harboring FIP. FIP is a mutation of coronavirus, which many/most cats, especially those who have been through kill shelters, have been exposed to at one time or another. Most cats can carry coronavirus throughout their lives with no ill effects. There is no way to tell

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2008-11-02 Thread Beth Noren
Hi Tonya, I lost one 12 week old to suspected wet FIP 2 years ago. She had a chronic URI and began having fevers that stopped responding to antibiotics. When her belly very first started to swell I noticed it, but the vet couldn't see it (or perhaps didn't want me to worry too much prematurely?)

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2008-11-02 Thread catatonya
thanks. maybe he's just gaining weight from the canned food. he's been exposed to no new cats and has been breathing funny for at least a year now... we've done antibiotics twice. i just don't know... t Sally Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Now this was many years ago like 1972 when my

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2008-11-02 Thread Sally Davis
Now this was many years ago like 1972 when my Bud cat got sick. I was in college and my dad took hin to the vet who dx'd FIP. Now I know there were not tests done it was based on observation and he did not respond to antibiotics. Anyway the weekend I was to come home he left and was never seen agai

[Felvtalk] ot-sneaker fip?

2008-11-02 Thread catatonya
Hi all, I know many of you have had experience with fip. My cat sneaker has chronic herpes (vet thinks that's what it is.) he has difficulty breathing, but his lungs are clear. We've medicated him to no avail. And he is semiferal and hard to pill, much less use a nebulizer or anything.