Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: Bonnie
That particular kitty passed away about 8 years ago, but it's great to know about, thanks Natalie! From: Natalie To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Mon, October 25, 2010 8:53:30 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: Bonnie My vet has been using it for quite a few years...a blood test results determine whether to us Calcitriol, however, not many vets are using it. I would print up some of the veterinary infos and ask the vet. Our cats were always using a very small amount, 0.25mL. It's not cheap and it has to be formulated specifically for cats and dogs. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of paola cresti Sent: Monday, October 25, 2010 10:05 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: Bonnie Oh my cat didn't have Calcitiol, I saw several vets and none ever brought it up, I wonder how recent it is, if my cat didn't "qualify" for it, or if it wasn't in use yet. Yes my cat was getting a lot of fluids, drinking and subQ, and her pee sometimes didn't smell. Just wanted to put it out there so people kept in mind that sometimes it can be pee even if it doesn't smell so as not to just disregard it immediately... From: Natalie To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Mon, October 25, 2010 6:12:57 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: Bonnie I have dealt with many, many renal failure cats - some urine may be quite diluted if cat gets fluids daily; however, those that don't and don't drink enough water, the urine can be quite concentrated. I've also had an older cat that didn't get sub-q fluids, and he always peed under himself in his sleep. Every cat and every case is different, even if they all receive the same treatment. But since most of the renal failure cats get Calcitriol, their lives have been dramatically changed for the better and longer, without many typical and expected side effects. Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of paola cresti Sent: Monday, October 25, 2010 1:28 AM To: leukemia list Subject: [Felvtalk] Fw: Bonnie Also pee doesn't smell much when a cat has kidney failure - just FYI as there'd be other symptoms (drinking a lot for example) and also it's at an advanced stage that the pee doesn't smell anymore, because the kidneys can't clean the body of toxins so it doesn't smell. I don't think this is the case, but just so it's out there (I had a kitty that lived with kidney failure for quite a while) also it wouldn't make the cat incontinent or explain why he's peeing where he sleeps. From: Gloria Lane To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Sent: Thu, October 21, 2010 11:41:47 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bonnie If it isn't drool and it is pee, and doesn't smell, that could imply urinary tract problems. Gloria Sent from my iPhone On Oct 21, 2010, at 10:49 AM, "Bonnie Hogue" wrote: > The bed was wet again this morning, near where he was laying last night. I put >my hand on it and it didn't smell. That's what throws me. The black light >trick is a good one -- I'll see what I can come up with! > I asked my mom is Lucky drools and slobbers -- she's in a convalescent hospital >following two severe strokes and communicating is hard -- but she dearly loves >her Lucky. She said, "Yes, he slobbers a lot." So, maybe that is the answer! > - Original Message - From: "Natalie" > To: > Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 6:08 AM > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bonnie > > >> Some cats are real droolers - it may have nothing to do with teeth - I used >> to have one cat that made my arm and lap totally wet with droolif the >> drool isn't clear, then it could be a sign of something else. >> emia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: Bonnie P-SPOT SOLVED
Sharyl Thanks for the input. He did vomit a lot today, poor fellow. I'll try the Pepcid AC. ~Bonnie - Original Message - From: "Sharyl" To: Sent: Monday, October 25, 2010 11:12 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: Bonnie P-SPOT SOLVED Bonnie, vomiting a clear liquid is often a sign of excess stomach acid. 2.5 mg of Original Strength Pepcid AC EOD seems to help most kitties. By the way I disagree with your vet. Any upset should be investigated and treated. Sharyl --- On Mon, 10/25/10, Bonnie Hogue wrote: From: Bonnie Hogue Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: Bonnie P-SPOT SOLVED To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Monday, October 25, 2010, 11:12 AM Paola Thanks for that information. But I think I've finally solved the mystery of the Pee Spot! Lucky frequently spits up. He'll be fine for days, then have a bout of spitting up almost clear liquid, 3 or 4 times a day. I mentioned to the vet he spits up and the vet seemed unconcerned, saying cats are very susceptible to gastric upset. I now think the spots on the bed were not pee, but spit up. I'm not sure if this is a serious issue; I'll mention it to the vet again. But having him spit up rather than pee is a little easier for me psychologically, at least! ~Bonnie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: Bonnie
My vet has been using it for quite a few years...a blood test results determine whether to us Calcitriol, however, not many vets are using it. I would print up some of the veterinary infos and ask the vet. Our cats were always using a very small amount, 0.25mL. It's not cheap and it has to be formulated specifically for cats and dogs. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of paola cresti Sent: Monday, October 25, 2010 10:05 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: Bonnie Oh my cat didn't have Calcitiol, I saw several vets and none ever brought it up, I wonder how recent it is, if my cat didn't "qualify" for it, or if it wasn't in use yet. Yes my cat was getting a lot of fluids, drinking and subQ, and her pee sometimes didn't smell. Just wanted to put it out there so people kept in mind that sometimes it can be pee even if it doesn't smell so as not to just disregard it immediately... From: Natalie To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Mon, October 25, 2010 6:12:57 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: Bonnie I have dealt with many, many renal failure cats - some urine may be quite diluted if cat gets fluids daily; however, those that don't and don't drink enough water, the urine can be quite concentrated. I've also had an older cat that didn't get sub-q fluids, and he always peed under himself in his sleep. Every cat and every case is different, even if they all receive the same treatment. But since most of the renal failure cats get Calcitriol, their lives have been dramatically changed for the better and longer, without many typical and expected side effects. Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of paola cresti Sent: Monday, October 25, 2010 1:28 AM To: leukemia list Subject: [Felvtalk] Fw: Bonnie Also pee doesn't smell much when a cat has kidney failure - just FYI as there'd be other symptoms (drinking a lot for example) and also it's at an advanced stage that the pee doesn't smell anymore, because the kidneys can't clean the body of toxins so it doesn't smell. I don't think this is the case, but just so it's out there (I had a kitty that lived with kidney failure for quite a while) also it wouldn't make the cat incontinent or explain why he's peeing where he sleeps. From: Gloria Lane To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Sent: Thu, October 21, 2010 11:41:47 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bonnie If it isn't drool and it is pee, and doesn't smell, that could imply urinary tract problems. Gloria Sent from my iPhone On Oct 21, 2010, at 10:49 AM, "Bonnie Hogue" wrote: > The bed was wet again this morning, near where he was laying last night. I put >my hand on it and it didn't smell. That's what throws me. The black light >trick is a good one -- I'll see what I can come up with! > I asked my mom is Lucky drools and slobbers -- she's in a convalescent hospital >following two severe strokes and communicating is hard -- but she dearly loves >her Lucky. She said, "Yes, he slobbers a lot." So, maybe that is the answer! > - Original Message - From: "Natalie" > To: > Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 6:08 AM > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bonnie > > >> Some cats are real droolers - it may have nothing to do with teeth - I used >> to have one cat that made my arm and lap totally wet with droolif the >> drool isn't clear, then it could be a sign of something else. >> emia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: Bonnie P-SPOT SOLVED
glad to hear that, certainly is better, incontinent cat would be no fun. I didn't think Lucky could have renal failure, so many people read these and since I've gotten so much good info out of others' stories I wanted to keep it out there that here is an occurrence when pee doesn't smell. Go Lucky! Paola From: Bonnie Hogue To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Mon, October 25, 2010 8:12:28 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: Bonnie P-SPOT SOLVED Paola Thanks for that information. But I think I've finally solved the mystery of the Pee Spot! Lucky frequently spits up. He'll be fine for days, then have a bout of spitting up almost clear liquid, 3 or 4 times a day. I mentioned to the vet he spits up and the vet seemed unconcerned, saying cats are very susceptible to gastric upset. I now think the spots on the bed were not pee, but spit up. I'm not sure if this is a serious issue; I'll mention it to the vet again. But having him spit up rather than pee is a little easier for me psychologically, at least! ~Bonnie - Original Message - From: "paola cresti" To: "leukemia list" Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2010 10:28 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Fw: Bonnie > > > Also pee doesn't smell much when a cat has kidney failure - just FYI as there'd > be other symptoms (drinking a lot for example) and also it's at an advanced > stage that the pee doesn't smell anymore, because the kidneys can't clean the > body of toxins so it doesn't smell. > > I don't think this is the case, but just so it's out there (I had a kitty that > lived with kidney failure for quite a while) also it wouldn't make the cat > incontinent or explain why he's peeing where he sleeps. > > > > > > From: Gloria Lane > To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" > Sent: Thu, October 21, 2010 11:41:47 AM > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bonnie > > If it isn't drool and it is pee, and doesn't smell, that could imply urinary > tract problems. > > > Gloria > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Oct 21, 2010, at 10:49 AM, "Bonnie Hogue" wrote: > >> The bed was wet again this morning, near where he was laying last night. I put >> my hand on it and it didn't smell. That's what throws me. The black light >> trick is a good one -- I'll see what I can come up with! >> I asked my mom is Lucky drools and slobbers -- she's in a convalescent >hospital >> following two severe strokes and communicating is hard -- but she dearly loves >> her Lucky. She said, "Yes, he slobbers a lot." So, maybe that is the answer! >> - Original Message - From: "Natalie" >> To: >> Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 6:08 AM >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bonnie >> >> >>> Some cats are real droolers - it may have nothing to do with teeth - I used >>> to have one cat that made my arm and lap totally wet with droolif the >>> drool isn't clear, then it could be a sign of something else. >>> emia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: Bonnie
Oh my cat didn't have Calcitiol, I saw several vets and none ever brought it up, I wonder how recent it is, if my cat didn't "qualify" for it, or if it wasn't in use yet. Yes my cat was getting a lot of fluids, drinking and subQ, and her pee sometimes didn't smell. Just wanted to put it out there so people kept in mind that sometimes it can be pee even if it doesn't smell so as not to just disregard it immediately... From: Natalie To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Mon, October 25, 2010 6:12:57 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: Bonnie I have dealt with many, many renal failure cats - some urine may be quite diluted if cat gets fluids daily; however, those that don't and don't drink enough water, the urine can be quite concentrated. I've also had an older cat that didn't get sub-q fluids, and he always peed under himself in his sleep. Every cat and every case is different, even if they all receive the same treatment. But since most of the renal failure cats get Calcitriol, their lives have been dramatically changed for the better and longer, without many typical and expected side effects. Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of paola cresti Sent: Monday, October 25, 2010 1:28 AM To: leukemia list Subject: [Felvtalk] Fw: Bonnie Also pee doesn't smell much when a cat has kidney failure - just FYI as there'd be other symptoms (drinking a lot for example) and also it's at an advanced stage that the pee doesn't smell anymore, because the kidneys can't clean the body of toxins so it doesn't smell. I don't think this is the case, but just so it's out there (I had a kitty that lived with kidney failure for quite a while) also it wouldn't make the cat incontinent or explain why he's peeing where he sleeps. From: Gloria Lane To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Sent: Thu, October 21, 2010 11:41:47 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bonnie If it isn't drool and it is pee, and doesn't smell, that could imply urinary tract problems. Gloria Sent from my iPhone On Oct 21, 2010, at 10:49 AM, "Bonnie Hogue" wrote: > The bed was wet again this morning, near where he was laying last night. I put >my hand on it and it didn't smell. That's what throws me. The black light >trick is a good one -- I'll see what I can come up with! > I asked my mom is Lucky drools and slobbers -- she's in a convalescent hospital >following two severe strokes and communicating is hard -- but she dearly loves >her Lucky. She said, "Yes, he slobbers a lot." So, maybe that is the answer! > - Original Message - From: "Natalie" > To: > Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 6:08 AM > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bonnie > > >> Some cats are real droolers - it may have nothing to do with teeth - I used >> to have one cat that made my arm and lap totally wet with droolif the >> drool isn't clear, then it could be a sign of something else. >> emia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: Bonnie P-SPOT SOLVED
My vet prescribed Pepcid A/C so some kidney patients (cats).. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Susan Saunders Sent: Monday, October 25, 2010 11:48 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: Bonnie P-SPOT SOLVED Ask your vet if Pepcid AC will help. Susan Saunders - Original Message From: Bonnie Hogue To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Mon, October 25, 2010 11:12:28 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: Bonnie P-SPOT SOLVED Paola Thanks for that information. But I think I've finally solved the mystery of the Pee Spot! Lucky frequently spits up. He'll be fine for days, then have a bout of spitting up almost clear liquid, 3 or 4 times a day. I mentioned to the vet he spits up and the vet seemed unconcerned, saying cats are very susceptible to gastric upset. I now think the spots on the bed were not pee, but spit up. I'm not sure if this is a serious issue; I'll mention it to the vet again. But having him spit up rather than pee is a little easier for me psychologically, at least! ~Bonnie - Original Message - From: "paola cresti" To: "leukemia list" Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2010 10:28 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Fw: Bonnie > > > Also pee doesn't smell much when a cat has kidney failure - just FYI as there'd > be other symptoms (drinking a lot for example) and also it's at an advanced > stage that the pee doesn't smell anymore, because the kidneys can't clean the > body of toxins so it doesn't smell. > > I don't think this is the case, but just so it's out there (I had a kitty that > lived with kidney failure for quite a while) also it wouldn't make the cat > incontinent or explain why he's peeing where he sleeps. > > > > > > From: Gloria Lane > To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" > Sent: Thu, October 21, 2010 11:41:47 AM > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bonnie > > If it isn't drool and it is pee, and doesn't smell, that could imply urinary > tract problems. > > > Gloria > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Oct 21, 2010, at 10:49 AM, "Bonnie Hogue" wrote: > >> The bed was wet again this morning, near where he was laying last night. I put >> my hand on it and it didn't smell. That's what throws me. The black light >> trick is a good one -- I'll see what I can come up with! >> I asked my mom is Lucky drools and slobbers -- she's in a convalescent >hospital >> following two severe strokes and communicating is hard -- but she dearly loves >> her Lucky. She said, "Yes, he slobbers a lot." So, maybe that is the answer! >> - Original Message - From: "Natalie" >> To: >> Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 6:08 AM >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bonnie >> >> >>> Some cats are real droolers - it may have nothing to do with teeth - I used >>> to have one cat that made my arm and lap totally wet with droolif the >>> drool isn't clear, then it could be a sign of something else. >>> emia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: Bonnie P-SPOT SOLVED
Mine recommends Pepcid when my little guys spit up too much. On Oct 25, 2010, at 10:12 AM, Bonnie Hogue wrote: Paola Thanks for that information. But I think I've finally solved the mystery of the Pee Spot! Lucky frequently spits up. He'll be fine for days, then have a bout of spitting up almost clear liquid, 3 or 4 times a day. I mentioned to the vet he spits up and the vet seemed unconcerned, saying cats are very susceptible to gastric upset. I now think the spots on the bed were not pee, but spit up. I'm not sure if this is a serious issue; I'll mention it to the vet again. But having him spit up rather than pee is a little easier for me psychologically, at least! ~Bonnie - Original Message - From: "paola cresti" To: "leukemia list" Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2010 10:28 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Fw: Bonnie Also pee doesn't smell much when a cat has kidney failure - just FYI as there'd be other symptoms (drinking a lot for example) and also it's at an advanced stage that the pee doesn't smell anymore, because the kidneys can't clean the body of toxins so it doesn't smell. I don't think this is the case, but just so it's out there (I had a kitty that lived with kidney failure for quite a while) also it wouldn't make the cat incontinent or explain why he's peeing where he sleeps. From: Gloria Lane To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Sent: Thu, October 21, 2010 11:41:47 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bonnie If it isn't drool and it is pee, and doesn't smell, that could imply urinary tract problems. Gloria Sent from my iPhone On Oct 21, 2010, at 10:49 AM, "Bonnie Hogue" wrote: The bed was wet again this morning, near where he was laying last night. I put my hand on it and it didn't smell. That's what throws me. The black light trick is a good one -- I'll see what I can come up with! I asked my mom is Lucky drools and slobbers -- she's in a convalescent hospital following two severe strokes and communicating is hard -- but she dearly loves her Lucky. She said, "Yes, he slobbers a lot." So, maybe that is the answer! - Original Message - From: "Natalie" To: Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 6:08 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bonnie Some cats are real droolers - it may have nothing to do with teeth - I used to have one cat that made my arm and lap totally wet with droolif the drool isn't clear, then it could be a sign of something else. emia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: Bonnie P-SPOT SOLVED
Bonnie, vomiting a clear liquid is often a sign of excess stomach acid. 2.5 mg of Original Strength Pepcid AC EOD seems to help most kitties. By the way I disagree with your vet. Any upset should be investigated and treated. Sharyl --- On Mon, 10/25/10, Bonnie Hogue wrote: > From: Bonnie Hogue > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: Bonnie P-SPOT SOLVED > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Monday, October 25, 2010, 11:12 AM > Paola > Thanks for that information. But I think I've finally > solved the mystery of the Pee Spot! Lucky frequently > spits up. He'll be fine for days, then have a bout of > spitting up almost clear liquid, 3 or 4 times a day. I > mentioned to the vet he spits up and the vet seemed > unconcerned, saying cats are very susceptible to gastric > upset. I now think the spots on the bed were not pee, > but spit up. I'm not sure if this is a serious issue; > I'll mention it to the vet again. But having him spit > up rather than pee is a little easier for me > psychologically, at least! > ~Bonnie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: Bonnie P-SPOT SOLVED
Ask your vet if Pepcid AC will help. Susan Saunders - Original Message From: Bonnie Hogue To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Mon, October 25, 2010 11:12:28 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: Bonnie P-SPOT SOLVED Paola Thanks for that information. But I think I've finally solved the mystery of the Pee Spot! Lucky frequently spits up. He'll be fine for days, then have a bout of spitting up almost clear liquid, 3 or 4 times a day. I mentioned to the vet he spits up and the vet seemed unconcerned, saying cats are very susceptible to gastric upset. I now think the spots on the bed were not pee, but spit up. I'm not sure if this is a serious issue; I'll mention it to the vet again. But having him spit up rather than pee is a little easier for me psychologically, at least! ~Bonnie - Original Message - From: "paola cresti" To: "leukemia list" Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2010 10:28 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Fw: Bonnie > > > Also pee doesn't smell much when a cat has kidney failure - just FYI as there'd > be other symptoms (drinking a lot for example) and also it's at an advanced > stage that the pee doesn't smell anymore, because the kidneys can't clean the > body of toxins so it doesn't smell. > > I don't think this is the case, but just so it's out there (I had a kitty that > lived with kidney failure for quite a while) also it wouldn't make the cat > incontinent or explain why he's peeing where he sleeps. > > > > > > From: Gloria Lane > To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" > Sent: Thu, October 21, 2010 11:41:47 AM > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bonnie > > If it isn't drool and it is pee, and doesn't smell, that could imply urinary > tract problems. > > > Gloria > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Oct 21, 2010, at 10:49 AM, "Bonnie Hogue" wrote: > >> The bed was wet again this morning, near where he was laying last night. I put >> my hand on it and it didn't smell. That's what throws me. The black light >> trick is a good one -- I'll see what I can come up with! >> I asked my mom is Lucky drools and slobbers -- she's in a convalescent >hospital >> following two severe strokes and communicating is hard -- but she dearly loves >> her Lucky. She said, "Yes, he slobbers a lot." So, maybe that is the answer! >> - Original Message - From: "Natalie" >> To: >> Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 6:08 AM >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bonnie >> >> >>> Some cats are real droolers - it may have nothing to do with teeth - I used >>> to have one cat that made my arm and lap totally wet with droolif the >>> drool isn't clear, then it could be a sign of something else. >>> emia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: Bonnie P-SPOT SOLVED
I just got a cat off death row in the Bronx...I thought that she's a real drooler...nope, she has a very bad URI and her nose is literally dripping all over the floor and my lap when I hold herI could have sworn she was drooling until she shook her head and I saw the drops from her little nose.Typically, drools are not like clear water, drools are normally thicker - yuck! What we all don't put up with, right? Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of tamara stickler Sent: Monday, October 25, 2010 11:27 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: Bonnie P-SPOT SOLVED Bonnie, I have a large cat that DROOLS worse than any mastiff! Part of the reason is that I had to have his one fang removed when he was rescued b/c it was broken off and rotten. NOW, nearly every time his gets up...there is a good sized drool spot where he was laying. It's a bit disgusting...but forgivable. PLUS, his very favorite pastime is eating...& I've noticed when he dreams of eating (mouth going a mile a minute in his sleep) that he drools considerably more. Usually has to get a drink when he gets up. Lastly, I had another cat that would drool when he was starting with a sinus infection...- his nose would drip and he would mouth breathe. (If you see Lucky's nose dripping or feel it's wet- you would prob. want to take him in to be checked out - it can be the sign of bad teeth or ..with Felv a flare-up begining.) While the wet spots may be cat hack - I've never found a healthy cat that would continue to lay where she/he soiled. Good luck. T --- On Mon, 10/25/10, Bonnie Hogue wrote: From: Bonnie Hogue Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: Bonnie P-SPOT SOLVED To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Monday, October 25, 2010, 11:12 AM Paola Thanks for that information. But I think I've finally solved the mystery of the Pee Spot! Lucky frequently spits up. He'll be fine for days, then have a bout of spitting up almost clear liquid, 3 or 4 times a day. I mentioned to the vet he spits up and the vet seemed unconcerned, saying cats are very susceptible to gastric upset. I now think the spots on the bed were not pee, but spit up. I'm not sure if this is a serious issue; I'll mention it to the vet again. But having him spit up rather than pee is a little easier for me psychologically, at least! ~Bonnie - Original Message - From: "paola cresti" To: "leukemia list" Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2010 10:28 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Fw: Bonnie > > > Also pee doesn't smell much when a cat has kidney failure - just FYI as there'd > be other symptoms (drinking a lot for example) and also it's at an advanced > stage that the pee doesn't smell anymore, because the kidneys can't clean the > body of toxins so it doesn't smell. > > I don't think this is the case, but just so it's out there (I had a kitty that > lived with kidney failure for quite a while) also it wouldn't make the cat > incontinent or explain why he's peeing where he sleeps. > > > > > > From: Gloria Lane > To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" > Sent: Thu, October 21, 2010 11:41:47 AM > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bonnie > > If it isn't drool and it is pee, and doesn't smell, that could imply urinary > tract problems. > > > Gloria > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Oct 21, 2010, at 10:49 AM, "Bonnie Hogue" wrote: > >> The bed was wet again this morning, near where he was laying last night. I put >> my hand on it and it didn't smell. That's what throws me. The black light >> trick is a good one -- I'll see what I can come up with! >> I asked my mom is Lucky drools and slobbers -- she's in a convalescent hospital >> following two severe strokes and communicating is hard -- but she dearly loves >> her Lucky. She said, "Yes, he slobbers a lot." So, maybe that is the answer! >> - Original Message - From: "Natalie" >> To: >> Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 6:08 AM >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bonnie >> >> >>> Some cats are real droolers - it may have nothing to do with teeth - I used >>> to have one cat that made my arm and lap totally wet with droolif the >>> drool isn't clear, then it could be a sign of something else. >>> emia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___
Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: Bonnie P-SPOT SOLVED
Bonnie, I have a large cat that DROOLS worse than any mastiff! Part of the reason is that I had to have his one fang removed when he was rescued b/c it was broken off and rotten. NOW, nearly every time his gets up...there is a good sized drool spot where he was laying. It's a bit disgusting...but forgivable. PLUS, his very favorite pastime is eating...& I've noticed when he dreams of eating (mouth going a mile a minute in his sleep) that he drools considerably more. Usually has to get a drink when he gets up. Lastly, I had another cat that would drool when he was starting with a sinus infection...- his nose would drip and he would mouth breathe. (If you see Lucky's nose dripping or feel it's wet- you would prob. want to take him in to be checked out - it can be the sign of bad teeth or ..with Felv a flare-up begining.) While the wet spots may be cat hack - I've never found a healthy cat that would continue to lay where she/he soiled. Good luck. T --- On Mon, 10/25/10, Bonnie Hogue wrote: From: Bonnie Hogue Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: Bonnie P-SPOT SOLVED To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Monday, October 25, 2010, 11:12 AM Paola Thanks for that information. But I think I've finally solved the mystery of the Pee Spot! Lucky frequently spits up. He'll be fine for days, then have a bout of spitting up almost clear liquid, 3 or 4 times a day. I mentioned to the vet he spits up and the vet seemed unconcerned, saying cats are very susceptible to gastric upset. I now think the spots on the bed were not pee, but spit up. I'm not sure if this is a serious issue; I'll mention it to the vet again. But having him spit up rather than pee is a little easier for me psychologically, at least! ~Bonnie - Original Message - From: "paola cresti" To: "leukemia list" Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2010 10:28 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Fw: Bonnie > > > Also pee doesn't smell much when a cat has kidney failure - just FYI as > there'd > be other symptoms (drinking a lot for example) and also it's at an advanced > stage that the pee doesn't smell anymore, because the kidneys can't clean the > body of toxins so it doesn't smell. > > I don't think this is the case, but just so it's out there (I had a kitty that > lived with kidney failure for quite a while) also it wouldn't make the cat > incontinent or explain why he's peeing where he sleeps. > > > > > > From: Gloria Lane > To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" > Sent: Thu, October 21, 2010 11:41:47 AM > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bonnie > > If it isn't drool and it is pee, and doesn't smell, that could imply urinary > tract problems. > > > Gloria > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Oct 21, 2010, at 10:49 AM, "Bonnie Hogue" wrote: > >> The bed was wet again this morning, near where he was laying last night. I >> put >> my hand on it and it didn't smell. That's what throws me. The black light >> trick is a good one -- I'll see what I can come up with! >> I asked my mom is Lucky drools and slobbers -- she's in a convalescent >> hospital >> following two severe strokes and communicating is hard -- but she dearly >> loves >> her Lucky. She said, "Yes, he slobbers a lot." So, maybe that is the >> answer! >> - Original Message - From: "Natalie" >> To: >> Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 6:08 AM >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bonnie >> >> >>> Some cats are real droolers - it may have nothing to do with teeth - I used >>> to have one cat that made my arm and lap totally wet with droolif the >>> drool isn't clear, then it could be a sign of something else. >>> emia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Thanks, Natalie. I took Lucky to the vet last week; he didn't seem to have a uti or kidney issue. In fact, Lucky has "bounced back" quite remarkably -- his fur is thickening up nicely, growing back in the bald spots and (best of all) he's putting back on his weight. Eats good, drinks goodJust the spitting up issue now. I've learned so much from you folks with your generous posts, I can't thank you enough. And I'm very moved by your commitment to improving the lives and caretaking for these wonderful animals! ~Bonnie - Original Message - From: "Natalie" To: Sent: Monday, October 25, 2010 6:12 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: Bonnie I have dealt with many, many renal failure cats - some urine may be quite diluted if cat gets fluids daily; however, those that don't and don't drink enough water, the urine can be quite concentrated. I've also had an older cat that didn't get sub-q fluids, and he always peed under himself in his sleep. Every cat and every case is different, even if they all receive the same treatment. But since most of the renal failure cats get Calcitriol, their lives have been dramatically changed for the better and longer, without many typical and expected side effects. Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of paola cresti Sent: Monday, October 25, 2010 1:28 AM To: leukemia list Subject: [Felvtalk] Fw: Bonnie Also pee doesn't smell much when a cat has kidney failure - just FYI as there'd be other symptoms (drinking a lot for example) and also it's at an advanced stage that the pee doesn't smell anymore, because the kidneys can't clean the body of toxins so it doesn't smell. I don't think this is the case, but just so it's out there (I had a kitty that lived with kidney failure for quite a while) also it wouldn't make the cat incontinent or explain why he's peeing where he sleeps. From: Gloria Lane To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Sent: Thu, October 21, 2010 11:41:47 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bonnie If it isn't drool and it is pee, and doesn't smell, that could imply urinary tract problems. Gloria Sent from my iPhone On Oct 21, 2010, at 10:49 AM, "Bonnie Hogue" wrote: The bed was wet again this morning, near where he was laying last night. I put my hand on it and it didn't smell. That's what throws me. The black light trick is a good one -- I'll see what I can come up with! I asked my mom is Lucky drools and slobbers -- she's in a convalescent hospital following two severe strokes and communicating is hard -- but she dearly loves her Lucky. She said, "Yes, he slobbers a lot." So, maybe that is the answer! - Original Message - From: "Natalie" To: Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 6:08 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bonnie Some cats are real droolers - it may have nothing to do with teeth - I used to have one cat that made my arm and lap totally wet with droolif the drool isn't clear, then it could be a sign of something else. emia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: Bonnie P-SPOT SOLVED
Paola Thanks for that information. But I think I've finally solved the mystery of the Pee Spot! Lucky frequently spits up. He'll be fine for days, then have a bout of spitting up almost clear liquid, 3 or 4 times a day. I mentioned to the vet he spits up and the vet seemed unconcerned, saying cats are very susceptible to gastric upset. I now think the spots on the bed were not pee, but spit up. I'm not sure if this is a serious issue; I'll mention it to the vet again. But having him spit up rather than pee is a little easier for me psychologically, at least! ~Bonnie - Original Message - From: "paola cresti" To: "leukemia list" Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2010 10:28 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Fw: Bonnie Also pee doesn't smell much when a cat has kidney failure - just FYI as there'd be other symptoms (drinking a lot for example) and also it's at an advanced stage that the pee doesn't smell anymore, because the kidneys can't clean the body of toxins so it doesn't smell. I don't think this is the case, but just so it's out there (I had a kitty that lived with kidney failure for quite a while) also it wouldn't make the cat incontinent or explain why he's peeing where he sleeps. From: Gloria Lane To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Sent: Thu, October 21, 2010 11:41:47 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bonnie If it isn't drool and it is pee, and doesn't smell, that could imply urinary tract problems. Gloria Sent from my iPhone On Oct 21, 2010, at 10:49 AM, "Bonnie Hogue" wrote: The bed was wet again this morning, near where he was laying last night. I put my hand on it and it didn't smell. That's what throws me. The black light trick is a good one -- I'll see what I can come up with! I asked my mom is Lucky drools and slobbers -- she's in a convalescent hospital following two severe strokes and communicating is hard -- but she dearly loves her Lucky. She said, "Yes, he slobbers a lot." So, maybe that is the answer! - Original Message - From: "Natalie" To: Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 6:08 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bonnie Some cats are real droolers - it may have nothing to do with teeth - I used to have one cat that made my arm and lap totally wet with droolif the drool isn't clear, then it could be a sign of something else. emia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: Bonnie
I have dealt with many, many renal failure cats - some urine may be quite diluted if cat gets fluids daily; however, those that don't and don't drink enough water, the urine can be quite concentrated. I've also had an older cat that didn't get sub-q fluids, and he always peed under himself in his sleep. Every cat and every case is different, even if they all receive the same treatment. But since most of the renal failure cats get Calcitriol, their lives have been dramatically changed for the better and longer, without many typical and expected side effects. Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of paola cresti Sent: Monday, October 25, 2010 1:28 AM To: leukemia list Subject: [Felvtalk] Fw: Bonnie Also pee doesn't smell much when a cat has kidney failure - just FYI as there'd be other symptoms (drinking a lot for example) and also it's at an advanced stage that the pee doesn't smell anymore, because the kidneys can't clean the body of toxins so it doesn't smell. I don't think this is the case, but just so it's out there (I had a kitty that lived with kidney failure for quite a while) also it wouldn't make the cat incontinent or explain why he's peeing where he sleeps. From: Gloria Lane To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Sent: Thu, October 21, 2010 11:41:47 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bonnie If it isn't drool and it is pee, and doesn't smell, that could imply urinary tract problems. Gloria Sent from my iPhone On Oct 21, 2010, at 10:49 AM, "Bonnie Hogue" wrote: > The bed was wet again this morning, near where he was laying last night. I put >my hand on it and it didn't smell. That's what throws me. The black light >trick is a good one -- I'll see what I can come up with! > I asked my mom is Lucky drools and slobbers -- she's in a convalescent hospital >following two severe strokes and communicating is hard -- but she dearly loves >her Lucky. She said, "Yes, he slobbers a lot." So, maybe that is the answer! > - Original Message - From: "Natalie" > To: > Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 6:08 AM > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bonnie > > >> Some cats are real droolers - it may have nothing to do with teeth - I used >> to have one cat that made my arm and lap totally wet with droolif the >> drool isn't clear, then it could be a sign of something else. >> emia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
