Re: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed
I didn't find out that Fuji was positive until she was having breathing problems. She was just a year old (tested negative as kitten with extremely limited outside time and only after she was 9 months. The vet thinks she got it from her mother and it didn't show on original test.) Anyway, she was diagnosed with lymphoma and the vet gave her 2-3 months. We live in Japan and my options are extremely limited. Over the past 13 months, she has continued to receive chemo on a limited basis by her Japanese vet to keep the tumor away. Her white blood cell count is always really low barely above 3000 the vets wishes for to do her chemo , but she has absolutely no symptoms or issues! So, I guess what I am saying is no diagnosis or situation is so great that there is no hope! As for your other babies, all you can do is exactly what you are doing and hope for the best! As you have seen, many successfully mix and have no problems. Melinda, Fuji and VooDoo On Aug 23, 2011, at 7:25 AM, Maureen Olvey wrote: Not too long ago I posted that I had a FeLV positive cat mixed with an FIV positive cat. Obviously, I didn't know the FeLV cat was positive since she tested negative as a kitten. Anyway, the two lived together for two years until she died and I just tested my old FIV kitty and he's negative. I've got a houseful of my cats and fosters and I've only tested like 7 of them so far but they've all been negative. None are vaccinated against FeLV either. It's weird. I totally expected my FIV kitty to contract it. I'm glad he didn't of course. One vet I talked to said that it's possible the FeLV kitty put the virus into dormancy as a kitten which is why she tested negative and then it reactivated later as an adult. Maybe that's what happened with Fletch. I wouldn't have thought a kitten would have a strong enough immune system to put the virus into dormancy but who knows. But still once it reactivated in my cat I would have thought she could have spread the virus to my other cats. This vet also said that most vets now days believe that healthy adult cats are pretty much immune to the virus. Still best to vaccinate your other cats annually but I'm just saying it's not surprising your others are negative. I also have a friend who mixes her negatives and positives together. She just keeps her negatives vaccinated annually. She even has FIV cats mixed in and keeps them vaccinated too and they have never caught the FeLV virus. Definitely get an IFA test to confirm the ELISA test. The ELISA test is wrong in about 30% of the cases from what someone else told me. It's a very sensitive test so if it's not done perfectly it can show a false positive. Course since Fletch is sick it could be correct but you should still confirm with the IFA test. If the IFA test is negative then it means the virus hasn't gotten into his white blood cells and t-cell lymphocytes (I have no idea what that is, I just read it) so he still has a chance of exterminating the virus completely or putting it into dormancy. So if his IFA test is negative then do a retest in a couple months to see if it has gotten that far or not. You need two test with the same results to confirm FeLV status. If after doing the IFA, Fletch shows positive definitely look into immune system stimulants like interferon and immunoreglin. I don't know much about them but others on the list do and your vet should know. Need to keep Fletch around for a long long time. Since he's sick right now I'd go ahead and get him going on this kind of stuff. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain From: hideyo.yamam...@msn.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 15:55:56 -0600 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed Sorry - correction - I meant to say - Felk virus SEEMS to be very fragile - Sorry! From: hideyo.yamam...@msn.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 15:49:36 -0600 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed I always believe that, things happen for a reason - we may not know why right away.. but it does - and I truly believe that something good will come out of the situation - Contrary to some literature, felk virus does not seem to be very fragile in the air - as mentioned, my friends mix their kitties - and they have several kitties - and none of their negatives has become positve -they groom each other, they wrestle each other, they share food/water bowls.. h From: marciabmar...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 17:04:42 -0500 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My
Re: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed
The only reason I can think of to give them an annual vaccination is to protect them from Fletch if he turns out to definitely be FeLV positive. You would think that if they were going to get FeLV from Fletch they would have gotten it by now but I guess there's a chance they still could get it later on like if their immune system is compromised by illness or some other reason. I don't know. Hard call. Of course if they've developed somewhat of an immunity to FeLV from being exposed to it through Fletch then maybe they'll always be immune and not need an annual shot. It's kind of like better safe than sorry. If Fletch does pass on before they do then there's no reason to keep up their vaccinations. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain From: marciabmar...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 01:21:27 -0500 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed Thanks. I really like this vet, and I believe that the newer younger vets will hardly ever tell you to put an animal down, whereas The older ones that I have dealt with don't hesitate to suggest that. This new one was recently hired by my regular veterinarian, and he is great, knows everything, so I know the new guy must be good or he wouldn't be there. All the people at my vets office are wonderful. Can't tell I really like them, can you?Now, if my cats never ever go outside, do they need this shot every year? The closest they have ever come to outside is looking through a window. Take care Sent from my iPad On Aug 22, 2011, at 11:52 PM, Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com wrote: The vet that I mentioned in my other e-mail that I was talking to about FeLV said that for your negatives you do need a series of two shots, three weeks apart. She said one FeLV vaccination by itself is not enough. I specifically asked her one time if one shot would help at all but she said no that either it was two shots or nothing. After that then it's annually. Maybe there is some flexibility in the weeks between, like maybe you could go 4 weeks instead of 3 but I really don't know. I've just always heard 3 weeks. Definitely not longer than 4 weeks. A young vet can actually be better in some ways because a lot of the older vets hear FeLV and immediately recommend putting the cat down. That sends me over the edge. They don't even talk about confirming with an IFA test. The vet that I mentioned actually wrote one of the first papers about using immunoregulin for treating FeLV years ago. Everyone else at the time just recommended killing the cat once it showed any signs at all of being sick. She's one of the better older vets. She's not old but she's been practicing for a while, which is what I mean. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain From: marciabmar...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 23:42:05 -0500 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed Hi Lynda I think, well I know I am dealing with a very young vet, but he is concerned and that is good. When I asked today when to bring the cats back he Said in a year. The receptionist told me when I got ready to leave to come back in a month. If you say three weeks than I will take them back in three weeks! Thank you very much, I feel like I have a bunch new caring friends(-: Sent from my iPad On Aug 22, 2011, at 10:40 PM, Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net wrote: Marcia, Just a friendly reminder, in order for the vaccination to be effective, the cat has to have 2 shots, 3 weeks apart (no more than that or you have to start over). Hang in there! There is still hope! What Maureen said is right on the money :0) Lynda - Original Message - From: Marcia Baronda To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 9:04 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed Christiane That is wonderful! I keep hearing a lot of stories filled with hope. I keep telling Fletch he can kickthis and he growls at me(-: He's a stinker!! I had my two vaccinated today and the third one is going to the vet tomorrow. I hope he is negative also. Thanks so much for sharing. Take care Marcia On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 8:21 PM, Christiane Biagi ti...@mindspring.com wrote: My Tucson is 13 was found pos when she was 4. She had tested neg as kitten but was never outside so vets were sure she was pos from birth. She lives with my other cats all
Re: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed
Thank you Christiane(-: On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 9:57 PM, Christiane Biagi ti...@mindspring.comwrote: There are many stories on this board of cats who are pos living to a ripe old age. However, they are very susceptible to infections and to lymphomas, for example. Had my Romeo who was a stray I brought in from the street he died very quickly from lymphoma years after. Basically, it seems the best you can do for these little ones is good food, lots of good care, and love. I do not give interferon though a couple of times Tucson has had a very low white blood cell count my vet used a series of immune regulin injections on her count bounced back up. I probably run her to the vet faster than I might the other cats just so as not to miss any infection brewing. I had a senior blood panel done on her this year everything was good. But I know that things happen quickly and I enjoy her every day (well, almost every day! LOL) and hope for the best. ** ** As for the other cats, they had spent years together—sharing dishes, grooming each other, using the same litter boxes, and occasionally getting into little scuffles. They all tested neg I just don’t think its quite as contagious as some of the literature ( some vets) make it out to be. ** ** ** ** ** ** *From:* felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf Of *Marcia Baronda *Sent:* Monday, August 22, 2011 10:05 PM *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed ** ** Christiane That is wonderful! I keep hearing a lot of stories filled with hope. I keep telling Fletch he can kickthis and he growls at me(-: He's a stinker!! I had my two vaccinated today and the third one is going to the vet tomorrow. I hope he is negative also. Thanks so much for sharing. Take care Marcia On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 8:21 PM, Christiane Biagi ti...@mindspring.com wrote: My Tucson is 13 was found pos when she was 4. She had tested neg as kitten but was never outside so vets were sure she was pos from birth. She lives with my other cats all of whom were around her for 3-4 years before I found her to be pos. She's still going strong and none of the other cats tested pos. I vaccinated the others. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marcia Baronda Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 11:04 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed Hi everyone! My one year old sweet litle boy was just diagnosed. I have a million questions and hope to learn a lot from all of you. This is every hard to swallow. I have 3 other adult cats in myj house that have not been vaccinated for felv. I didn't see a reason for it, I didn't trust the vaccine and I am sorry now. Funny thing is, is that I tried so hard to keep my cats healthy. I wouldn't even wear my shoes in the house for fear I would carry something in! Anyway, my little boy Fletch has a fever, horrible looking coat and I can feel his hipbones and some of his backbone. He continues to eat and drink ok. They are on a grain free diet and have a water fountain. Thanks so much for being here. Marcia Sent from my iPad ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- *Marcia Baronda* *Baronda Supplies Service, Inc.* *1550 S 2700 Rd.* *Herington, Kansas 67449* *Phone: 785-466-2501* *Cell:785-230-6499* ** ** ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- *Marcia Baronda* *Baronda Supplies Service, Inc.* *1550 S 2700 Rd.* *Herington, Kansas 67449* *Phone: 785-466-2501* *Cell:785-230-6499* ** ** ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Hi everyone Well, I just got back from the vet and Alvin (appropriatly named at Christmastime by my grandson) tested negative! I'm so happy today, even though I'm not clear out of the woods...One Day at a Time. On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 9:57 PM, Christiane Biagi ti...@mindspring.comwrote: There are many stories on this board of cats who are pos living to a ripe old age. However, they are very susceptible to infections and to lymphomas, for example. Had my Romeo who was a stray I brought in from the street he died very quickly from lymphoma years after. Basically, it seems the best you can do for these little ones is good food, lots of good care, and love. I do not give interferon though a couple of times Tucson has had a very low white blood cell count my vet used a series of immune regulin injections on her count bounced back up. I probably run her to the vet faster than I might the other cats just so as not to miss any infection brewing. I had a senior blood panel done on her this year everything was good. But I know that things happen quickly and I enjoy her every day (well, almost every day! LOL) and hope for the best. ** ** As for the other cats, they had spent years together—sharing dishes, grooming each other, using the same litter boxes, and occasionally getting into little scuffles. They all tested neg I just don’t think its quite as contagious as some of the literature ( some vets) make it out to be. ** ** ** ** ** ** *From:* felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf Of *Marcia Baronda *Sent:* Monday, August 22, 2011 10:05 PM *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed ** ** Christiane That is wonderful! I keep hearing a lot of stories filled with hope. I keep telling Fletch he can kickthis and he growls at me(-: He's a stinker!! I had my two vaccinated today and the third one is going to the vet tomorrow. I hope he is negative also. Thanks so much for sharing. Take care Marcia On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 8:21 PM, Christiane Biagi ti...@mindspring.com wrote: My Tucson is 13 was found pos when she was 4. She had tested neg as kitten but was never outside so vets were sure she was pos from birth. She lives with my other cats all of whom were around her for 3-4 years before I found her to be pos. She's still going strong and none of the other cats tested pos. I vaccinated the others. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marcia Baronda Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 11:04 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed Hi everyone! My one year old sweet litle boy was just diagnosed. I have a million questions and hope to learn a lot from all of you. This is every hard to swallow. I have 3 other adult cats in myj house that have not been vaccinated for felv. I didn't see a reason for it, I didn't trust the vaccine and I am sorry now. Funny thing is, is that I tried so hard to keep my cats healthy. I wouldn't even wear my shoes in the house for fear I would carry something in! Anyway, my little boy Fletch has a fever, horrible looking coat and I can feel his hipbones and some of his backbone. He continues to eat and drink ok. They are on a grain free diet and have a water fountain. Thanks so much for being here. Marcia Sent from my iPad ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- *Marcia Baronda* *Baronda Supplies Service, Inc.* *1550 S 2700 Rd.* *Herington, Kansas 67449* *Phone: 785-466-2501* *Cell:785-230-6499* ** ** ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- *Marcia Baronda* *Baronda Supplies Service, Inc.* *1550 S 2700 Rd.* *Herington, Kansas 67449* *Phone: 785-466-2501* *Cell:785-230-6499* ** ** ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed
That's great news! One day at a time is right! - Original Message - From: Marcia Baronda To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 2:41 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed Hi everyone Well, I just got back from the vet and Alvin (appropriatly named at Christmastime by my grandson) tested negative! I'm so happy today, even though I'm not clear out of the woods...One Day at a Time. On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 9:57 PM, Christiane Biagi ti...@mindspring.com wrote: There are many stories on this board of cats who are pos living to a ripe old age. However, they are very susceptible to infections and to lymphomas, for example. Had my Romeo who was a stray I brought in from the street he died very quickly from lymphoma years after. Basically, it seems the best you can do for these little ones is good food, lots of good care, and love. I do not give interferon though a couple of times Tucson has had a very low white blood cell count my vet used a series of immune regulin injections on her count bounced back up. I probably run her to the vet faster than I might the other cats just so as not to miss any infection brewing. I had a senior blood panel done on her this year everything was good. But I know that things happen quickly and I enjoy her every day (well, almost every day! LOL) and hope for the best. As for the other cats, they had spent years together—sharing dishes, grooming each other, using the same litter boxes, and occasionally getting into little scuffles. They all tested neg I just don’t think its quite as contagious as some of the literature ( some vets) make it out to be. From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marcia Baronda Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 10:05 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed Christiane That is wonderful! I keep hearing a lot of stories filled with hope. I keep telling Fletch he can kickthis and he growls at me(-: He's a stinker!! I had my two vaccinated today and the third one is going to the vet tomorrow. I hope he is negative also. Thanks so much for sharing. Take care Marcia On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 8:21 PM, Christiane Biagi ti...@mindspring.com wrote: My Tucson is 13 was found pos when she was 4. She had tested neg as kitten but was never outside so vets were sure she was pos from birth. She lives with my other cats all of whom were around her for 3-4 years before I found her to be pos. She's still going strong and none of the other cats tested pos. I vaccinated the others. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marcia Baronda Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 11:04 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed Hi everyone! My one year old sweet litle boy was just diagnosed. I have a million questions and hope to learn a lot from all of you. This is every hard to swallow. I have 3 other adult cats in myj house that have not been vaccinated for felv. I didn't see a reason for it, I didn't trust the vaccine and I am sorry now. Funny thing is, is that I tried so hard to keep my cats healthy. I wouldn't even wear my shoes in the house for fear I would carry something in! Anyway, my little boy Fletch has a fever, horrible looking coat and I can feel his hipbones and some of his backbone. He continues to eat and drink ok. They are on a grain free diet and have a water fountain. Thanks so much for being here. Marcia Sent from my iPad ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Marcia Baronda Baronda Supplies Service, Inc. 1550 S 2700 Rd. Herington, Kansas 67449 Phone: 785-466-2501 Cell:785-230-6499 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Marcia Baronda Baronda Supplies Service, Inc. 1550 S 2700 Rd. Herington, Kansas 67449 Phone: 785-466-2501 Cell:785-230-6499 -- ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed
How terribly upsetting for you Marcia, but very often other cats in the household do not contract the FelV virus in spite of not having been vaccinated. Lorrie On 08-21, Marcia Baronda wrote: Hi everyone! My one year old sweet litle boy was just diagnosed. I have a million questions and hope to learn a lot from all of you. This is every hard to swallow. I have 3 other adult cats in myj house that have not been vaccinated for felv. I didn't see a reason for it, I didn't trust the vaccine and I am sorry now. Funny thing is, is that I tried so hard to keep my cats healthy. I wouldn't even wear my shoes in the house for fear I would carry something in! Anyway, my little boy Fletch has a fever, horrible looking coat and I can feel his hipbones and some of his backbone. He continues to eat and drink ok. They are on a grain free diet and have a water fountain. Thanks so much for being here. Marcia Sent from my iPad ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed
Hi Marcia, So sorry to hear about Fletch. There is a good chance your adults will be just fine. I would get them tested and vaccinated, and keep Fletch seperated for a couple of weeks after the last shot. 3 of mine ran around with an infected brother for weeks before he was diagnosed and they never contracted it. The brother had tested negative initially, we didn't realize he had it until he came down with a bad fever. Antibiotics weren't helping to break it, so twice we had to give him small doses of Prednisolone. That did the trick, and he lived a happy, healthy life for several years. His siblings mixed with him and remained negative. This list was a huge help and comfort to me through all of it, fire away with the questions and someone here will be able to help. Best wishes, Beth On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 11:04 PM, Marcia Baronda marciabmar...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone! My one year old sweet litle boy was just diagnosed. I have a million questions... ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed
Hi Marcia! So sorry to hear of this sad news! But there is hope. Did Fletch have an ELISA and an IFA test? Were they both positive or just the ELISA test? If he was positive on just the ELISA test, then there is still a chance for his immune system to clear the virus. You will need to test him again in a month to give him that chance to be able to fight it off. If he is positive on both tests, then you need to start treating him (interferon for starters). I don't have experience with all the treatments but I know many people on this thread can help you. I'll be thinking of Fletch and hope he can pull through this. With the right treatment and diet, many FeLV cats can survive for many years. Good luck to both of you! Lynda - Original Message - From: Marcia Baronda marciabmar...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 10:04 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed Hi everyone! My one year old sweet litle boy was just diagnosed. I have a million questions and hope to learn a lot from all of you. This is every hard to swallow. I have 3 other adult cats in myj house that have not been vaccinated for felv. I didn't see a reason for it, I didn't trust the vaccine and I am sorry now. Funny thing is, is that I tried so hard to keep my cats healthy. I wouldn't even wear my shoes in the house for fear I would carry something in! Anyway, my little boy Fletch has a fever, horrible looking coat and I can feel his hipbones and some of his backbone. He continues to eat and drink ok. They are on a grain free diet and have a water fountain. Thanks so much for being here. Marcia Sent from my iPad ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed
Thanks for all the hope that you have given me. Fletch had the ELISA test. Today I took Wildfire and Shay over and they tested negative. Tomorrow I will take Alvin. ( my grandkids name my cats for me(-:). They vacd Shay and Wildfire, so I'm hoping they have a chance. My house is completely open so I cannot separate Fletch from the others. Exactly how long does the virus last outside of the body, I seem to find conflicting opinions on this! I let my vet know that I have all of you now...thank all of you so much. Sent from my iPad On Aug 22, 2011, at 7:31 AM, Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net wrote: Hi Marcia! So sorry to hear of this sad news! But there is hope. Did Fletch have an ELISA and an IFA test? Were they both positive or just the ELISA test? If he was positive on just the ELISA test, then there is still a chance for his immune system to clear the virus. You will need to test him again in a month to give him that chance to be able to fight it off. If he is positive on both tests, then you need to start treating him (interferon for starters). I don't have experience with all the treatments but I know many people on this thread can help you. I'll be thinking of Fletch and hope he can pull through this. With the right treatment and diet, many FeLV cats can survive for many years. Good luck to both of you! Lynda - Original Message - From: Marcia Baronda marciabmar...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 10:04 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed Hi everyone! My one year old sweet litle boy was just diagnosed. I have a million questions and hope to learn a lot from all of you. This is every hard to swallow. I have 3 other adult cats in myj house that have not been vaccinated for felv. I didn't see a reason for it, I didn't trust the vaccine and I am sorry now. Funny thing is, is that I tried so hard to keep my cats healthy. I wouldn't even wear my shoes in the house for fear I would carry something in! Anyway, my little boy Fletch has a fever, horrible looking coat and I can feel his hipbones and some of his backbone. He continues to eat and drink ok. They are on a grain free diet and have a water fountain. Thanks so much for being here. Marcia Sent from my iPad ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed
Hi, I did not read the original message - but I just wanted to share. I have one Felk girl, her name is gigner and she is now 7 years old -and I also have a couple of friends who have several felk kitties - they are all over 10 years old and they are all very healthty - Separately, I also have a couple of friends who mix their felk positive kitties wiht non negatives for a several years - they share eveyrthing - but none of their negatives have beome positives - Sending good thoughts to all of your babies. h From: marciabmar...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 15:31:39 -0500 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed Thanks for all the hope that you have given me. Fletch had the ELISA test. Today I took Wildfire and Shay over and they tested negative. Tomorrow I will take Alvin. ( my grandkids name my cats for me(-:). They vacd Shay and Wildfire, so I'm hoping they have a chance. My house is completely open so I cannot separate Fletch from the others. Exactly how long does the virus last outside of the body, I seem to find conflicting opinions on this! I let my vet know that I have all of you now...thank all of you so much. Sent from my iPad On Aug 22, 2011, at 7:31 AM, Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net wrote: Hi Marcia! So sorry to hear of this sad news! But there is hope. Did Fletch have an ELISA and an IFA test? Were they both positive or just the ELISA test? If he was positive on just the ELISA test, then there is still a chance for his immune system to clear the virus. You will need to test him again in a month to give him that chance to be able to fight it off. If he is positive on both tests, then you need to start treating him (interferon for starters). I don't have experience with all the treatments but I know many people on this thread can help you. I'll be thinking of Fletch and hope he can pull through this. With the right treatment and diet, many FeLV cats can survive for many years. Good luck to both of you! Lynda - Original Message - From: Marcia Baronda marciabmar...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 10:04 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed Hi everyone! My one year old sweet litle boy was just diagnosed. I have a million questions and hope to learn a lot from all of you. This is every hard to swallow. I have 3 other adult cats in myj house that have not been vaccinated for felv. I didn't see a reason for it, I didn't trust the vaccine and I am sorry now. Funny thing is, is that I tried so hard to keep my cats healthy. I wouldn't even wear my shoes in the house for fear I would carry something in! Anyway, my little boy Fletch has a fever, horrible looking coat and I can feel his hipbones and some of his backbone. He continues to eat and drink ok. They are on a grain free diet and have a water fountain. Thanks so much for being here. Marcia Sent from my iPad ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Thank you Hideyo! I felt so guilty and a lot of other things, all of you have helped so much. You have given me hope. Take care Marcia Sent from my iPad On Aug 22, 2011, at 4:15 PM, HIDEYO YAMAMOTO hideyo.yamam...@msn.com wrote: Hi, I did not read the original message - but I just wanted to share. I have one Felk girl, her name is gigner and she is now 7 years old -and I also have a couple of friends who have several felk kitties - they are all over 10 years old and they are all very healthty - Separately, I also have a couple of friends who mix their felk positive kitties wiht non negatives for a several years - they share eveyrthing - but none of their negatives have beome positives - Sending good thoughts to all of your babies. h From: marciabmar...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 15:31:39 -0500 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed Thanks for all the hope that you have given me. Fletch had the ELISA test. Today I took Wildfire and Shay over and they tested negative. Tomorrow I will take Alvin. ( my grandkids name my cats for me(-:). They vacd Shay and Wildfire, so I'm hoping they have a chance. My house is completely open so I cannot separate Fletch from the others. Exactly how long does the virus last outside of the body, I seem to find conflicting opinions on this! I let my vet know that I have all of you now...thank all of you so much. Sent from my iPad On Aug 22, 2011, at 7:31 AM, Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net wrote: Hi Marcia! So sorry to hear of this sad news! But there is hope. Did Fletch have an ELISA and an IFA test? Were they both positive or just the ELISA test? If he was positive on just the ELISA test, then there is still a chance for his immune system to clear the virus. You will need to test him again in a month to give him that chance to be able to fight it off. If he is positive on both tests, then you need to start treating him (interferon for starters). I don't have experience with all the treatments but I know many people on this thread can help you. I'll be thinking of Fletch and hope he can pull through this. With the right treatment and diet, many FeLV cats can survive for many years. Good luck to both of you! Lynda - Original Message - From: Marcia Baronda marciabmar...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 10:04 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed Hi everyone! My one year old sweet litle boy was just diagnosed. I have a million questions and hope to learn a lot from all of you. This is every hard to swallow. I have 3 other adult cats in myj house that have not been vaccinated for felv. I didn't see a reason for it, I didn't trust the vaccine and I am sorry now. Funny thing is, is that I tried so hard to keep my cats healthy. I wouldn't even wear my shoes in the house for fear I would carry something in! Anyway, my little boy Fletch has a fever, horrible looking coat and I can feel his hipbones and some of his backbone. He continues to eat and drink ok. They are on a grain free diet and have a water fountain. Thanks so much for being here. Marcia Sent from my iPad ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed
I always believe that, things happen for a reason - we may not know why right away.. but it does - and I truly believe that something good will come out of the situation - Contrary to some literature, felk virus does not seem to be very fragile in the air - as mentioned, my friends mix their kitties - and they have several kitties - and none of their negatives has become positve -they groom each other, they wrestle each other, they share food/water bowls.. h From: marciabmar...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 17:04:42 -0500 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed Thank you Hideyo! I felt so guilty and a lot of other things, all of you have helped so much. You have given me hope. Take care Marcia Sent from my iPad On Aug 22, 2011, at 4:15 PM, HIDEYO YAMAMOTO hideyo.yamam...@msn.com wrote: Hi, I did not read the original message - but I just wanted to share. I have one Felk girl, her name is gigner and she is now 7 years old -and I also have a couple of friends who have several felk kitties - they are all over 10 years old and they are all very healthty - Separately, I also have a couple of friends who mix their felk positive kitties wiht non negatives for a several years - they share eveyrthing - but none of their negatives have beome positives - Sending good thoughts to all of your babies. h From: marciabmar...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 15:31:39 -0500 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed Thanks for all the hope that you have given me. Fletch had the ELISA test. Today I took Wildfire and Shay over and they tested negative. Tomorrow I will take Alvin. ( my grandkids name my cats for me(-:). They vacd Shay and Wildfire, so I'm hoping they have a chance. My house is completely open so I cannot separate Fletch from the others. Exactly how long does the virus last outside of the body, I seem to find conflicting opinions on this! I let my vet know that I have all of you now...thank all of you so much. Sent from my iPad On Aug 22, 2011, at 7:31 AM, Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net wrote: Hi Marcia! So sorry to hear of this sad news! But there is hope. Did Fletch have an ELISA and an IFA test? Were they both positive or just the ELISA test? If he was positive on just the ELISA test, then there is still a chance for his immune system to clear the virus. You will need to test him again in a month to give him that chance to be able to fight it off. If he is positive on both tests, then you need to start treating him (interferon for starters). I don't have experience with all the treatments but I know many people on this thread can help you. I'll be thinking of Fletch and hope he can pull through this. With the right treatment and diet, many FeLV cats can survive for many years. Good luck to both of you! Lynda - Original Message - From: Marcia Baronda marciabmar...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 10:04 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed Hi everyone! My one year old sweet litle boy was just diagnosed. I have a million questions and hope to learn a lot from all of you. This is every hard to swallow. I have 3 other adult cats in myj house that have not been vaccinated for felv. I didn't see a reason for it, I didn't trust the vaccine and I am sorry now. Funny thing is, is that I tried so hard to keep my cats healthy. I wouldn't even wear my shoes in the house for fear I would carry something in! Anyway, my little boy Fletch has a fever, horrible looking coat and I can feel his hipbones and some of his backbone. He continues to eat and drink ok. They are on a grain free diet and have a water fountain. Thanks so much for being here. Marcia Sent from my iPad ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo
Re: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed
Sorry - correction - I meant to say - Felk virus SEEMS to be very fragile - Sorry! From: hideyo.yamam...@msn.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 15:49:36 -0600 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed I always believe that, things happen for a reason - we may not know why right away.. but it does - and I truly believe that something good will come out of the situation - Contrary to some literature, felk virus does not seem to be very fragile in the air - as mentioned, my friends mix their kitties - and they have several kitties - and none of their negatives has become positve -they groom each other, they wrestle each other, they share food/water bowls.. h From: marciabmar...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 17:04:42 -0500 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed Thank you Hideyo! I felt so guilty and a lot of other things, all of you have helped so much. You have given me hope. Take care Marcia Sent from my iPad On Aug 22, 2011, at 4:15 PM, HIDEYO YAMAMOTO hideyo.yamam...@msn.com wrote: Hi, I did not read the original message - but I just wanted to share. I have one Felk girl, her name is gigner and she is now 7 years old -and I also have a couple of friends who have several felk kitties - they are all over 10 years old and they are all very healthty - Separately, I also have a couple of friends who mix their felk positive kitties wiht non negatives for a several years - they share eveyrthing - but none of their negatives have beome positives - Sending good thoughts to all of your babies. h From: marciabmar...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 15:31:39 -0500 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed Thanks for all the hope that you have given me. Fletch had the ELISA test. Today I took Wildfire and Shay over and they tested negative. Tomorrow I will take Alvin. ( my grandkids name my cats for me(-:). They vacd Shay and Wildfire, so I'm hoping they have a chance. My house is completely open so I cannot separate Fletch from the others. Exactly how long does the virus last outside of the body, I seem to find conflicting opinions on this! I let my vet know that I have all of you now...thank all of you so much. Sent from my iPad On Aug 22, 2011, at 7:31 AM, Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net wrote: Hi Marcia! So sorry to hear of this sad news! But there is hope. Did Fletch have an ELISA and an IFA test? Were they both positive or just the ELISA test? If he was positive on just the ELISA test, then there is still a chance for his immune system to clear the virus. You will need to test him again in a month to give him that chance to be able to fight it off. If he is positive on both tests, then you need to start treating him (interferon for starters). I don't have experience with all the treatments but I know many people on this thread can help you. I'll be thinking of Fletch and hope he can pull through this. With the right treatment and diet, many FeLV cats can survive for many years. Good luck to both of you! Lynda - Original Message - From: Marcia Baronda marciabmar...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 10:04 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed Hi everyone! My one year old sweet litle boy was just diagnosed. I have a million questions and hope to learn a lot from all of you. This is every hard to swallow. I have 3 other adult cats in myj house that have not been vaccinated for felv. I didn't see a reason for it, I didn't trust the vaccine and I am sorry now. Funny thing is, is that I tried so hard to keep my cats healthy. I wouldn't even wear my shoes in the house for fear I would carry something in! Anyway, my little boy Fletch has a fever, horrible looking coat and I can feel his hipbones and some of his backbone. He continues to eat and drink ok. They are on a grain free diet and have a water fountain. Thanks so much for being here. Marcia Sent from my iPad ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list
Re: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed
Not too long ago I posted that I had a FeLV positive cat mixed with an FIV positive cat. Obviously, I didn't know the FeLV cat was positive since she tested negative as a kitten. Anyway, the two lived together for two years until she died and I just tested my old FIV kitty and he's negative. I've got a houseful of my cats and fosters and I've only tested like 7 of them so far but they've all been negative. None are vaccinated against FeLV either. It's weird. I totally expected my FIV kitty to contract it. I'm glad he didn't of course. One vet I talked to said that it's possible the FeLV kitty put the virus into dormancy as a kitten which is why she tested negative and then it reactivated later as an adult. Maybe that's what happened with Fletch. I wouldn't have thought a kitten would have a strong enough immune system to put the virus into dormancy but who knows. But still once it reactivated in my cat I would have thought she could have spread the virus to my other cats. This vet also said that most vets now days believe that healthy adult cats are pretty much immune to the virus. Still best to vaccinate your other cats annually but I'm just saying it's not surprising your others are negative. I also have a friend who mixes her negatives and positives together. She just keeps her negatives vaccinated annually. She even has FIV cats mixed in and keeps them vaccinated too and they have never caught the FeLV virus. Definitely get an IFA test to confirm the ELISA test. The ELISA test is wrong in about 30% of the cases from what someone else told me. It's a very sensitive test so if it's not done perfectly it can show a false positive. Course since Fletch is sick it could be correct but you should still confirm with the IFA test. If the IFA test is negative then it means the virus hasn't gotten into his white blood cells and t-cell lymphocytes (I have no idea what that is, I just read it) so he still has a chance of exterminating the virus completely or putting it into dormancy. So if his IFA test is negative then do a retest in a couple months to see if it has gotten that far or not. You need two test with the same results to confirm FeLV status. If after doing the IFA, Fletch shows positive definitely look into immune system stimulants like interferon and immunoreglin. I don't know much about them but others on the list do and your vet should know. Need to keep Fletch around for a long long time. Since he's sick right now I'd go ahead and get him going on this kind of stuff. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain From: hideyo.yamam...@msn.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 15:55:56 -0600 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed Sorry - correction - I meant to say - Felk virus SEEMS to be very fragile - Sorry! From: hideyo.yamam...@msn.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 15:49:36 -0600 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed I always believe that, things happen for a reason - we may not know why right away.. but it does - and I truly believe that something good will come out of the situation - Contrary to some literature, felk virus does not seem to be very fragile in the air - as mentioned, my friends mix their kitties - and they have several kitties - and none of their negatives has become positve -they groom each other, they wrestle each other, they share food/water bowls.. h From: marciabmar...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 17:04:42 -0500 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed Thank you Hideyo! I felt so guilty and a lot of other things, all of you have helped so much. You have given me hope. Take care Marcia Sent from my iPad On Aug 22, 2011, at 4:15 PM, HIDEYO YAMAMOTO hideyo.yamam...@msn.com wrote: Hi, I did not read the original message - but I just wanted to share. I have one Felk girl, her name is gigner and she is now 7 years old -and I also have a couple of friends who have several felk kitties - they are all over 10 years old and they are all very healthty - Separately, I also have a couple of friends who mix their felk positive kitties wiht non negatives for a several years - they share eveyrthing - but none of their negatives have beome positives - Sending good thoughts to all of your babies. h From: marciabmar...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 15:31:39 -0500 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed Thanks for all the hope that you have given me. Fletch had the ELISA test. Today I took
Re: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed
did you ever figure out what you were going to do with the 11 kittens? Michael Johnson Founder/Owner Second Chance Meows A FeLV Sanctuary From: HIDEYO YAMAMOTO hideyo.yamam...@msn.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 2:15 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed Hi, I did not read the original message - but I just wanted to share. I have one Felk girl, her name is gigner and she is now 7 years old -and I also have a couple of friends who have several felk kitties - they are all over 10 years old and they are all very healthty - Separately, I also have a couple of friends who mix their felk positive kitties wiht non negatives for a several years - they share eveyrthing - but none of their negatives have beome positives - Sending good thoughts to all of your babies. h From: marciabmar...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 15:31:39 -0500 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed Thanks for all the hope that you have given me. Fletch had the ELISA test. Today I took Wildfire and Shay over and they tested negative. Tomorrow I will take Alvin. ( my grandkids name my cats for me(-:). They vacd Shay and Wildfire, so I'm hoping they have a chance. My house is completely open so I cannot separate Fletch from the others. Exactly how long does the virus last outside of the body, I seem to find conflicting opinions on this! I let my vet know that I have all of you now...thank all of you so much. Sent from my iPad On Aug 22, 2011, at 7:31 AM, Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net wrote: Hi Marcia! So sorry to hear of this sad news! But there is hope. Did Fletch have an ELISA and an IFA test? Were they both positive or just the ELISA test? If he was positive on just the ELISA test, then there is still a chance for his immune system to clear the virus. You will need to test him again in a month to give him that chance to be able to fight it off. If he is positive on both tests, then you need to start treating him (interferon for starters). I don't have experience with all the treatments but I know many people on this thread can help you. I'll be thinking of Fletch and hope he can pull through this. With the right treatment and diet, many FeLV cats can survive for many years. Good luck to both of you! Lynda - Original Message - From: Marcia Baronda marciabmar...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 10:04 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed Hi everyone! My one year old sweet litle boy was just diagnosed. I have a million questions and hope to learn a lot from all of you. This is every hard to swallow. I have 3 other adult cats in myj house that have not been vaccinated for felv. I didn't see a reason for it, I didn't trust the vaccine and I am sorry now. Funny thing is, is that I tried so hard to keep my cats healthy. I wouldn't even wear my shoes in the house for fear I would carry something in! Anyway, my little boy Fletch has a fever, horrible looking coat and I can feel his hipbones and some of his backbone. He continues to eat and drink ok. They are on a grain free diet and have a water fountain. Thanks so much for being here. Marcia Sent from my iPad ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed
My Tucson is 13 was found pos when she was 4. She had tested neg as kitten but was never outside so vets were sure she was pos from birth. She lives with my other cats all of whom were around her for 3-4 years before I found her to be pos. She's still going strong and none of the other cats tested pos. I vaccinated the others. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marcia Baronda Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 11:04 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed Hi everyone! My one year old sweet litle boy was just diagnosed. I have a million questions and hope to learn a lot from all of you. This is every hard to swallow. I have 3 other adult cats in myj house that have not been vaccinated for felv. I didn't see a reason for it, I didn't trust the vaccine and I am sorry now. Funny thing is, is that I tried so hard to keep my cats healthy. I wouldn't even wear my shoes in the house for fear I would carry something in! Anyway, my little boy Fletch has a fever, horrible looking coat and I can feel his hipbones and some of his backbone. He continues to eat and drink ok. They are on a grain free diet and have a water fountain. Thanks so much for being here. Marcia Sent from my iPad ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Christiane That is wonderful! I keep hearing a lot of stories filled with hope. I keep telling Fletch he can kickthis and he growls at me(-: He's a stinker!! I had my two vaccinated today and the third one is going to the vet tomorrow. I hope he is negative also. Thanks so much for sharing. Take care Marcia On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 8:21 PM, Christiane Biagi ti...@mindspring.comwrote: My Tucson is 13 was found pos when she was 4. She had tested neg as kitten but was never outside so vets were sure she was pos from birth. She lives with my other cats all of whom were around her for 3-4 years before I found her to be pos. She's still going strong and none of the other cats tested pos. I vaccinated the others. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marcia Baronda Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 11:04 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed Hi everyone! My one year old sweet litle boy was just diagnosed. I have a million questions and hope to learn a lot from all of you. This is every hard to swallow. I have 3 other adult cats in myj house that have not been vaccinated for felv. I didn't see a reason for it, I didn't trust the vaccine and I am sorry now. Funny thing is, is that I tried so hard to keep my cats healthy. I wouldn't even wear my shoes in the house for fear I would carry something in! Anyway, my little boy Fletch has a fever, horrible looking coat and I can feel his hipbones and some of his backbone. He continues to eat and drink ok. They are on a grain free diet and have a water fountain. Thanks so much for being here. Marcia Sent from my iPad ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- *Marcia Baronda* *Baronda Supplies Service, Inc.* *1550 S 2700 Rd.* *Herington, Kansas 67449* *Phone: 785-466-2501* *Cell:785-230-6499* ** ** ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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There are many stories on this board of cats who are pos living to a ripe old age. However, they are very susceptible to infections and to lymphomas, for example. Had my Romeo who was a stray I brought in from the street he died very quickly from lymphoma years after. Basically, it seems the best you can do for these little ones is good food, lots of good care, and love. I do not give interferon though a couple of times Tucson has had a very low white blood cell count my vet used a series of immune regulin injections on her count bounced back up. I probably run her to the vet faster than I might the other cats just so as not to miss any infection brewing. I had a senior blood panel done on her this year everything was good. But I know that things happen quickly and I enjoy her every day (well, almost every day! LOL) and hope for the best. As for the other cats, they had spent years together-sharing dishes, grooming each other, using the same litter boxes, and occasionally getting into little scuffles. They all tested neg I just don't think its quite as contagious as some of the literature ( some vets) make it out to be. From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marcia Baronda Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 10:05 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed Christiane That is wonderful! I keep hearing a lot of stories filled with hope. I keep telling Fletch he can kickthis and he growls at me(-: He's a stinker!! I had my two vaccinated today and the third one is going to the vet tomorrow. I hope he is negative also. Thanks so much for sharing. Take care Marcia On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 8:21 PM, Christiane Biagi ti...@mindspring.com wrote: My Tucson is 13 was found pos when she was 4. She had tested neg as kitten but was never outside so vets were sure she was pos from birth. She lives with my other cats all of whom were around her for 3-4 years before I found her to be pos. She's still going strong and none of the other cats tested pos. I vaccinated the others. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marcia Baronda Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 11:04 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed Hi everyone! My one year old sweet litle boy was just diagnosed. I have a million questions and hope to learn a lot from all of you. This is every hard to swallow. I have 3 other adult cats in myj house that have not been vaccinated for felv. I didn't see a reason for it, I didn't trust the vaccine and I am sorry now. Funny thing is, is that I tried so hard to keep my cats healthy. I wouldn't even wear my shoes in the house for fear I would carry something in! Anyway, my little boy Fletch has a fever, horrible looking coat and I can feel his hipbones and some of his backbone. He continues to eat and drink ok. They are on a grain free diet and have a water fountain. Thanks so much for being here. Marcia Sent from my iPad ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Marcia Baronda Baronda Supplies Service, Inc. 1550 S 2700 Rd. Herington, Kansas 67449 Phone: 785-466-2501 Cell:785-230-6499 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Marcia, Just a friendly reminder, in order for the vaccination to be effective, the cat has to have 2 shots, 3 weeks apart (no more than that or you have to start over). Hang in there! There is still hope! What Maureen said is right on the money :0) Lynda - Original Message - From: Marcia Baronda To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 9:04 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed Christiane That is wonderful! I keep hearing a lot of stories filled with hope. I keep telling Fletch he can kickthis and he growls at me(-: He's a stinker!! I had my two vaccinated today and the third one is going to the vet tomorrow. I hope he is negative also. Thanks so much for sharing. Take care Marcia On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 8:21 PM, Christiane Biagi ti...@mindspring.com wrote: My Tucson is 13 was found pos when she was 4. She had tested neg as kitten but was never outside so vets were sure she was pos from birth. She lives with my other cats all of whom were around her for 3-4 years before I found her to be pos. She's still going strong and none of the other cats tested pos. I vaccinated the others. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marcia Baronda Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 11:04 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed Hi everyone! My one year old sweet litle boy was just diagnosed. I have a million questions and hope to learn a lot from all of you. This is every hard to swallow. I have 3 other adult cats in myj house that have not been vaccinated for felv. I didn't see a reason for it, I didn't trust the vaccine and I am sorry now. Funny thing is, is that I tried so hard to keep my cats healthy. I wouldn't even wear my shoes in the house for fear I would carry something in! Anyway, my little boy Fletch has a fever, horrible looking coat and I can feel his hipbones and some of his backbone. He continues to eat and drink ok. They are on a grain free diet and have a water fountain. Thanks so much for being here. Marcia Sent from my iPad ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Marcia Baronda Baronda Supplies Service, Inc. 1550 S 2700 Rd. Herington, Kansas 67449 Phone: 785-466-2501 Cell:785-230-6499 -- ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Maureen I can't thank you enough for this email. I know i'm not out of the woods yet, as far as my adults go, but hoping. That seems like a miracle that your fiv cat didn't contract felv! It seems to me, that after hearing from all of you today that there can definitely be a light at the end of the tunnel. I'm so grateful for all of you. And I love being with people who love cats, because sometimes we are just as misunderstood as our feline buddies are! Thank you Maureen. Please take care Marcia Sent from my Aug 22, 2011, at 5:25 PM, Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com wrote: Not too long ago I posted that I had a FeLV positive cat mixed with an FIV positive cat. Obviously, I didn't know the FeLV cat was positive since she tested negative as a kitten. Anyway, the two lived together for two years until she died and I just tested my old FIV kitty and he's negative. I've got a houseful of my cats and fosters and I've only tested like 7 of them so far but they've all been negative. None are vaccinated against FeLV either. It's weird. I totally expected my FIV kitty to contract it. I'm glad he didn't of course. One vet I talked to said that it's possible the FeLV kitty put the virus into dormancy as a kitten which is why she tested negative and then it reactivated later as an adult. Maybe that's what happened with Fletch. I wouldn't have thought a kitten would have a strong enough immune system to put the virus into dormancy but who knows. But still once it reactivated in my cat I would have thought she could have spread the virus to my other cats. This vet also said that most vets now days believe that healthy adult cats are pretty much immune to the virus. Still best to vaccinate your other cats annually but I'm just saying it's not surprising your others are negative. I also have a friend who mixes her negatives and positives together. She just keeps her negatives vaccinated annually. She even has FIV cats mixed in and keeps them vaccinated too and they have never caught the FeLV virus. Definitely get an IFA test to confirm the ELISA test. The ELISA test is wrong in about 30% of the cases from what someone else told me. It's a very sensitive test so if it's not done perfectly it can show a false positive. Course since Fletch is sick it could be correct but you should still confirm with the IFA test. If the IFA test is negative then it means the virus hasn't gotten into his white blood cells and t-cell lymphocytes (I have no idea what that is, I just read it) so he still has a chance of exterminating the virus completely or putting it into dormancy. So if his IFA test is negative then do a retest in a couple months to see if it has gotten that far or not. You need two test with the same results to confirm FeLV status. If after doing the IFA, Fletch shows positive definitely look into immune system stimulants like interferon and immunoreglin. I don't know much about them but others on the list do and your vet should know. Need to keep Fletch around for a long long time. Since he's sick right now I'd go ahead and get him going on this kind of stuff. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain From: hideyo.yamam...@msn.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 15:55:56 -0600 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed Sorry - correction - I meant to say - Felk virus SEEMS to be very fragile - Sorry! From: hideyo.yamam...@msn.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 15:49:36 -0600 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed I always believe that, things happen for a reason - we may not know why right away.. but it does - and I truly believe that something good will come out of the situation - Contrary to some literature, felk virus does not seem to be very fragile in the air - as mentioned, my friends mix their kitties - and they have several kitties - and none of their negatives has become positve -they groom each other, they wrestle each other, they share food/water bowls.. h From: marciabmar...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 17:04:42 -0500 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed Thank you Hideyo! I felt so guilty and a lot of other things, all of you have helped so much. You have given me hope. Take care Marcia Sent from my iPad On Aug 22, 2011, at 4:15 PM, HIDEYO YAMAMOTO hideyo.yamam...@msn.com wrote: Hi, I did not read the original message - but I just wanted to share. I have one Felk girl, her name is gigner and she is now 7 years old
Re: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed
The vet that I mentioned in my other e-mail that I was talking to about FeLV said that for your negatives you do need a series of two shots, three weeks apart. She said one FeLV vaccination by itself is not enough. I specifically asked her one time if one shot would help at all but she said no that either it was two shots or nothing. After that then it's annually. Maybe there is some flexibility in the weeks between, like maybe you could go 4 weeks instead of 3 but I really don't know. I've just always heard 3 weeks. Definitely not longer than 4 weeks. A young vet can actually be better in some ways because a lot of the older vets hear FeLV and immediately recommend putting the cat down. That sends me over the edge. They don't even talk about confirming with an IFA test. The vet that I mentioned actually wrote one of the first papers about using immunoregulin for treating FeLV years ago. Everyone else at the time just recommended killing the cat once it showed any signs at all of being sick. She's one of the better older vets. She's not old but she's been practicing for a while, which is what I mean. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain From: marciabmar...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 23:42:05 -0500 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed Hi Lynda I think, well I know I am dealing with a very young vet, but he is concerned and that is good. When I asked today when to bring the cats back he Said in a year. The receptionist told me when I got ready to leave to come back in a month. If you say three weeks than I will take them back in three weeks! Thank you very much, I feel like I have a bunch new caring friends(-: Sent from my iPad On Aug 22, 2011, at 10:40 PM, Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net wrote: Marcia, Just a friendly reminder, in order for the vaccination to be effective, the cat has to have 2 shots, 3 weeks apart (no more than that or you have to start over). Hang in there! There is still hope! What Maureen said is right on the money :0) Lynda - Original Message - From: Marcia Baronda To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 9:04 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed Christiane That is wonderful! I keep hearing a lot of stories filled with hope. I keep telling Fletch he can kickthis and he growls at me(-: He's a stinker!! I had my two vaccinated today and the third one is going to the vet tomorrow. I hope he is negative also. Thanks so much for sharing. Take care Marcia On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 8:21 PM, Christiane Biagi ti...@mindspring.com wrote: My Tucson is 13 was found pos when she was 4. She had tested neg as kitten but was never outside so vets were sure she was pos from birth. She lives with my other cats all of whom were around her for 3-4 years before I found her to be pos. She's still going strong and none of the other cats tested pos. I vaccinated the others. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marcia Baronda Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 11:04 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed Hi everyone! My one year old sweet litle boy was just diagnosed. I have a million questions and hope to learn a lot from all of you. This is every hard to swallow. I have 3 other adult cats in myj house that have not been vaccinated for felv. I didn't see a reason for it, I didn't trust the vaccine and I am sorry now. Funny thing is, is that I tried so hard to keep my cats healthy. I wouldn't even wear my shoes in the house for fear I would carry something in! Anyway, my little boy Fletch has a fever, horrible looking coat and I can feel his hipbones and some of his backbone. He continues to eat and drink ok. They are on a grain free diet and have a water fountain. Thanks so much for being here. Marcia Sent from my iPad ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Marcia Baronda Baronda Supplies Service, Inc. 1550 S 2700 Rd. Herington, Kansas 67449 Phone: 785-466-2501 Cell:785-230-6499 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing
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Thanks. I really like this vet, and I believe that the newer younger vets will hardly ever tell you to put an animal down, whereas The older ones that I have dealt with don't hesitate to suggest that. This new one was recently hired by my regular veterinarian, and he is great, knows everything, so I know the new guy must be good or he wouldn't be there. All the people at my vets office are wonderful. Can't tell I really like them, can you? Now, if my cats never ever go outside, do they need this shot every year? The closest they have ever come to outside is looking through a window. Take care Sent from my iPad On Aug 22, 2011, at 11:52 PM, Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com wrote: The vet that I mentioned in my other e-mail that I was talking to about FeLV said that for your negatives you do need a series of two shots, three weeks apart. She said one FeLV vaccination by itself is not enough. I specifically asked her one time if one shot would help at all but she said no that either it was two shots or nothing. After that then it's annually. Maybe there is some flexibility in the weeks between, like maybe you could go 4 weeks instead of 3 but I really don't know. I've just always heard 3 weeks. Definitely not longer than 4 weeks. A young vet can actually be better in some ways because a lot of the older vets hear FeLV and immediately recommend putting the cat down. That sends me over the edge. They don't even talk about confirming with an IFA test. The vet that I mentioned actually wrote one of the first papers about using immunoregulin for treating FeLV years ago. Everyone else at the time just recommended killing the cat once it showed any signs at all of being sick. She's one of the better older vets. She's not old but she's been practicing for a while, which is what I mean. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain From: marciabmar...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 23:42:05 -0500 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed Hi Lynda I think, well I know I am dealing with a very young vet, but he is concerned and that is good. When I asked today when to bring the cats back he Said in a year. The receptionist told me when I got ready to leave to come back in a month. If you say three weeks than I will take them back in three weeks! Thank you very much, I feel like I have a bunch new caring friends(-: Sent from my iPad On Aug 22, 2011, at 10:40 PM, Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net wrote: Marcia, Just a friendly reminder, in order for the vaccination to be effective, the cat has to have 2 shots, 3 weeks apart (no more than that or you have to start over). Hang in there! There is still hope! What Maureen said is right on the money :0) Lynda - Original Message - From: Marcia Baronda To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 9:04 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed Christiane That is wonderful! I keep hearing a lot of stories filled with hope. I keep telling Fletch he can kickthis and he growls at me(-: He's a stinker!! I had my two vaccinated today and the third one is going to the vet tomorrow. I hope he is negative also. Thanks so much for sharing. Take care Marcia On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 8:21 PM, Christiane Biagi ti...@mindspring.com wrote: My Tucson is 13 was found pos when she was 4. She had tested neg as kitten but was never outside so vets were sure she was pos from birth. She lives with my other cats all of whom were around her for 3-4 years before I found her to be pos. She's still going strong and none of the other cats tested pos. I vaccinated the others. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marcia Baronda Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 11:04 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed Hi everyone! My one year old sweet litle boy was just diagnosed. I have a million questions and hope to learn a lot from all of you. This is every hard to swallow. I have 3 other adult cats in myj house that have not been vaccinated for felv. I didn't see a reason for it, I didn't trust the vaccine and I am sorry now. Funny thing is, is that I tried so hard to keep my cats healthy. I wouldn't even wear my shoes in the house for fear I would carry something in! Anyway, my little boy Fletch has a fever, horrible looking coat and I can feel his hipbones and some of his backbone. He continues to eat and drink ok. They are on a grain free diet and have a water fountain. Thanks so
