Re: [Felvtalk] opinions on strange situation(kitty to adopt)
I no longer do rescue. I did offer to help this kitty financially, I think I suggested cat TV videos and I suggested C&W shelter if he is positive. I also emailed privately a list member who lives in Chicago to ask what vet she goes to. It is hard on me emotionally to hear about kitties in need (from your earlier report this kitty lives alone in a room so frustrated that he masturbates- did he have toys? A window? Cat TV?) without the writer then taking steps to help the kitty. Curious how this will "sort itself out" without your intervention. Thanks for all you do. I think I just need to stop reading posts about cats in need. My best, L -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Emeraldkittee Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 9:44 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] opinions on strange situation(kitty to adopt) He was a cutie pie, and I could see he was safe. I want to have him tested (IFA and Western Blot) since he's 6 and never had a problem - I'm doubting he's positive. He does really seem like an only child type kitty too. I am definitely still going to help out with him, and I haven't ruled him out. The fosters I meet with always seem slightly put off by our space being 'just a sun room'. We do have extra heaters out there, but it isn't as cozy as the rest of any house. This lady was concerned about that. She also mentioned her sister placing him in a home with a dog as a possibilty. So, when I heard about this other kitty on death row, I had to do something. I also still feel very very strongly about a one eyed kitty I met. I just knew he'd be a good pal for Whimsy. I was ready to take the only child one if he was truly in danger, but he's not. So complicated. :) I'm also paying for more testing for another local kitty, who could be in danger of being put down. Maybe I'm adjusting too, by going where I'm 'most needed'. I think it will sort itself out. Thanks for asking :) any thoughts welcome... --- On Fri, 1/21/11, Laurieskatz wrote: From: Laurieskatz Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] opinions on strange situation(kitty to adopt) To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Cc: "'POTT, BEVERLY'" Date: Friday, January 21, 2011, 9:22 PM Emeraldkittee, any update on the boy cat? I know you met him. Wondering why you felt it wasn't a match? "Love animals: God has given them the rudiments of thought and joy untroubled. Do not trouble their joy, don't harass them, don't deprive them of their happiness, don't work against God's intent. Man, do not pride yourself on superiority to animals; they are without sin, and you, with your greatness, defile the earth by your appearance on it, and leave the traces of your foulness after you - alas, it is true of almost every one of us!"~Fyodor Dostoyevsky -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dlg...@windstream.net Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 4:47 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Cc: POTT, BEVERLY Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] opinions on strange situation(kitty to adopt) If he has issues with the carrier, try putting his bed or some familiar thing in first. That might help him feel safer in the carrier. My go in it, but I have 2 who say NO Wow, sounds like she has issues- what kind, who knows? > > See if your vet will give you an ace promazine (or something similar) to give the cat, so that you can get it in the carrier (provided the woman lets you take it anywhere!). Since he's stuck in a room, he can't really hide when the sedation starts to take effect. Poor kitty. He sounds absolutely miserable. :-( > > Alternatively, I can go to the house and steal the cat for you, if you like... (haha! Just kidding ;-)) > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Emeraldkittee [mailto:emeraldkit...@yahoo.com] > Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 9:27 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] opinions on strange situation(kitty to adopt) > > An acquaintance in rescue put me in touch with a person whose dying relative has a supposed double positive- FeLV and FIV. She can't take him because of the amount of other pets the relative has and will add to her own bunch. We've had a few conversations. I have been told the following: the kitty hasn't seen a vet in 2 yrs, hasn't had a check up in over 4, has always been very thin, gets overstimulated, masturbates on his bed (I mention because to me it's behavioral/lonely/frustrated); has escaped from the room he's in and never attacks the other cats. The kitty is around 5 or 6 and has been in supposed perfect health. There's never been an IFA or Western Blot. > > I don't feel co
Re: [Felvtalk] opinions on strange situation(kitty to adopt)
He was a cutie pie, and I could see he was safe. I want to have him tested (IFA and Western Blot) since he's 6 and never had a problem - I'm doubting he's positive. He does really seem like an only child type kitty too. I am definitely still going to help out with him, and I haven't ruled him out. The fosters I meet with always seem slightly put off by our space being 'just a sun room'. We do have extra heaters out there, but it isn't as cozy as the rest of any house. This lady was concerned about that. She also mentioned her sister placing him in a home with a dog as a possibilty. So, when I heard about this other kitty on death row, I had to do something. I also still feel very very strongly about a one eyed kitty I met. I just knew he'd be a good pal for Whimsy. I was ready to take the only child one if he was truly in danger, but he's not. So complicated. :) I'm also paying for more testing for another local kitty, who could be in danger of being put down. Maybe I'm adjusting too, by going where I'm 'most needed'. I think it will sort itself out. Thanks for asking :) any thoughts welcome... --- On Fri, 1/21/11, Laurieskatz wrote: From: Laurieskatz Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] opinions on strange situation(kitty to adopt) To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Cc: "'POTT, BEVERLY'" Date: Friday, January 21, 2011, 9:22 PM Emeraldkittee, any update on the boy cat? I know you met him. Wondering why you felt it wasn't a match? "Love animals: God has given them the rudiments of thought and joy untroubled. Do not trouble their joy, don't harass them, don't deprive them of their happiness, don't work against God's intent. Man, do not pride yourself on superiority to animals; they are without sin, and you, with your greatness, defile the earth by your appearance on it, and leave the traces of your foulness after you - alas, it is true of almost every one of us!"~Fyodor Dostoyevsky -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dlg...@windstream.net Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 4:47 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Cc: POTT, BEVERLY Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] opinions on strange situation(kitty to adopt) If he has issues with the carrier, try putting his bed or some familiar thing in first. That might help him feel safer in the carrier. My go in it, but I have 2 who say NO Wow, sounds like she has issues- what kind, who knows? > > See if your vet will give you an ace promazine (or something similar) to give > the cat, so that you can get it in the carrier (provided the woman lets you > take it anywhere!). Since he's stuck in a room, he can't really hide when the > sedation starts to take effect. Poor kitty. He sounds absolutely miserable. > :-( > > Alternatively, I can go to the house and steal the cat for you, if you > like... (haha! Just kidding ;-)) > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Emeraldkittee [mailto:emeraldkit...@yahoo.com] > Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 9:27 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] opinions on strange situation(kitty to adopt) > > An acquaintance in rescue put me in touch with a person whose dying relative > has a supposed double positive- FeLV and FIV. She can't take him because of > the amount of other pets the relative has and will add to her own bunch. > We've had a few conversations. I have been told the following: the kitty > hasn't seen a vet in 2 yrs, hasn't had a check up in over 4, has always been > very thin, gets overstimulated, masturbates on his bed (I mention because to > me it's behavioral/lonely/frustrated); has escaped from the room he's in and > never attacks the other cats. The kitty is around 5 or 6 and has been in > supposed perfect health. There's never been an IFA or Western Blot. > > I don't feel comfortable bringing a kitty in without some knowledge of their > health - I offered to pay for a check up and IFA, and said we could certainly > use their vet. She mentioned she no longer goes to that vet and didn't know > 'who we could use' but knows some 'dr who can draw blood'. Today she said she > doesn't want to make that dr mad (?) and wants her permission to do the IFA . > I offered to send a home visit vet, but she 'doesn't know'. It's not a > problem with this home, because I am invited there. > > > When I offered to take the kitty to a vet myself she said he doesn't like > carriers and might need a shot to be sedated. That wasn't mentioned the > first few conversations. > > Stating the obvious, this is not m
Re: [Felvtalk] opinions on strange situation(kitty to adopt)
Emeraldkittee, any update on the boy cat? I know you met him. Wondering why you felt it wasn't a match? "Love animals: God has given them the rudiments of thought and joy untroubled. Do not trouble their joy, don't harass them, don't deprive them of their happiness, don't work against God's intent. Man, do not pride yourself on superiority to animals; they are without sin, and you, with your greatness, defile the earth by your appearance on it, and leave the traces of your foulness after you - alas, it is true of almost every one of us!"~Fyodor Dostoyevsky -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dlg...@windstream.net Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 4:47 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Cc: POTT, BEVERLY Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] opinions on strange situation(kitty to adopt) If he has issues with the carrier, try putting his bed or some familiar thing in first. That might help him feel safer in the carrier. My go in it, but I have 2 who say NO Wow, sounds like she has issues- what kind, who knows? > > See if your vet will give you an ace promazine (or something similar) to give > the cat, so that you can get it in the carrier (provided the woman lets you > take it anywhere!). Since he's stuck in a room, he can't really hide when the > sedation starts to take effect. Poor kitty. He sounds absolutely miserable. > :-( > > Alternatively, I can go to the house and steal the cat for you, if you > like... (haha! Just kidding ;-)) > > > -Original Message- > From: Emeraldkittee [mailto:emeraldkit...@yahoo.com] > Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 9:27 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] opinions on strange situation(kitty to adopt) > > An acquaintance in rescue put me in touch with a person whose dying relative > has a supposed double positive- FeLV and FIV. She can't take him because of > the amount of other pets the relative has and will add to her own bunch. > We've had a few conversations. I have been told the following: the kitty > hasn't seen a vet in 2 yrs, hasn't had a check up in over 4, has always been > very thin, gets overstimulated, masturbates on his bed (I mention because to > me it's behavioral/lonely/frustrated); has escaped from the room he's in and > never attacks the other cats. The kitty is around 5 or 6 and has been in > supposed perfect health. There's never been an IFA or Western Blot. > > I don't feel comfortable bringing a kitty in without some knowledge of their > health - I offered to pay for a check up and IFA, and said we could certainly > use their vet. She mentioned she no longer goes to that vet and didn't know > 'who we could use' but knows some 'dr who can draw blood'. Today she said she > doesn't want to make that dr mad (?) and wants her permission to do the IFA . > I offered to send a home visit vet, but she 'doesn't know'. It's not a > problem with this home, because I am invited there. > > > When I offered to take the kitty to a vet myself she said he doesn't like > carriers and might need a shot to be sedated. That wasn't mentioned the > first few conversations. > > Stating the obvious, this is not making sense to me. I know this person is > overwhelmed with alot of big life issues, and I can appreciate that. BUT. I > am going to meet this kitty to see how I can help/what the situation is, but > why would someone resist this chance for care, even if it doesn't lead to an > adoption? She did agree it's possible he'd come up negative, but doesn't > know about doing this. > > I did meet another kitty I know I want to adopt but these illogical > conversations and this cat have been weighing on my mind and I feel I need to > see what's going on. I got the impression there was a problem with the vet > she originally used, like she can't go back. Most people this deep into > rescue have a vet or two they know and useso, what is the real story? > How can I best help... > > Thanks, I really appreciate any opinions or guidance from all your varied > experience. > > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] opinions on strange situation(kitty to adopt)
If he has issues with the carrier, try putting his bed or some familiar thing in first. That might help him feel safer in the carrier. My go in it, but I have 2 who say NO Wow, sounds like she has issues- what kind, who knows? > > See if your vet will give you an ace promazine (or something similar) to give > the cat, so that you can get it in the carrier (provided the woman lets you > take it anywhere!). Since he's stuck in a room, he can't really hide when the > sedation starts to take effect. Poor kitty. He sounds absolutely miserable. > :-( > > Alternatively, I can go to the house and steal the cat for you, if you > like... (haha! Just kidding ;-)) > > > -Original Message- > From: Emeraldkittee [mailto:emeraldkit...@yahoo.com] > Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 9:27 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] opinions on strange situation(kitty to adopt) > > An acquaintance in rescue put me in touch with a person whose dying relative > has a supposed double positive- FeLV and FIV. She can't take him because of > the amount of other pets the relative has and will add to her own bunch. > We've had a few conversations. I have been told the following: the kitty > hasn't seen a vet in 2 yrs, hasn't had a check up in over 4, has always been > very thin, gets overstimulated, masturbates on his bed (I mention because to > me it's behavioral/lonely/frustrated); has escaped from the room he's in and > never attacks the other cats. The kitty is around 5 or 6 and has been in > supposed perfect health. There's never been an IFA or Western Blot. > > I don't feel comfortable bringing a kitty in without some knowledge of their > health - I offered to pay for a check up and IFA, and said we could certainly > use their vet. She mentioned she no longer goes to that vet and didn't know > 'who we could use' but knows some 'dr who can draw blood'. Today she said she > doesn't want to make that dr mad (?) and wants her permission to do the IFA . > I offered to send a home visit vet, but she 'doesn't know'. It's not a > problem with this home, because I am invited there. > > > When I offered to take the kitty to a vet myself she said he doesn't like > carriers and might need a shot to be sedated. That wasn't mentioned the > first few conversations. > > Stating the obvious, this is not making sense to me. I know this person is > overwhelmed with alot of big life issues, and I can appreciate that. BUT. I > am going to meet this kitty to see how I can help/what the situation is, but > why would someone resist this chance for care, even if it doesn't lead to an > adoption? She did agree it's possible he'd come up negative, but doesn't > know about doing this. > > I did meet another kitty I know I want to adopt but these illogical > conversations and this cat have been weighing on my mind and I feel I need to > see what's going on. I got the impression there was a problem with the vet > she originally used, like she can't go back. Most people this deep into > rescue have a vet or two they know and useso, what is the real story? > How can I best help... > > Thanks, I really appreciate any opinions or guidance from all your varied > experience. > > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] opinions on strange situation(kitty to adopt)
Do they have Care Credit in your area? That is what I use. Depending on the amount, you have 3, 6, 10 or 12 months to pay. If you pay within the promoitonal period, you avoid interest charges. Lot of times it is easier to pay $100 a month than $600 at one time. Emeraldkittee wrote: > I think so, but that's the norm around here. $105 total blood panel $225 IFA $225 Western Blot $34 urine test/cystocentsis $17 fecal $50 exam I think I just figured out why I don't get to Hawaii much ;) --- On Thu, 1/20/11, W wrote: From: W Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] opinions on strange situation(kitty to adopt) To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Date: Thursday, January 20, 2011, 3:58 PM Isn't $600 a bit expensive??? Wow! Sent from my iPhone On Jan 20, 2011, at 1:04 PM, Emeraldkittee wrote: > Hey Natalie and everyone, > > I know, just for me to take this guy and do everything it would be over $600 > ($750 for a home visit) – and I just can’t do that with all my own special > needs babies. I completely thought she was affiliated with a rescue group > and I could do this at a discount. The $600 would be full blood panel, > exam, fecal, check urine, western blot and IFA. I’m going to call the woman > who referred me and see if we can do something under her rescue group. My > vet works with a group but they won’t let me process him under their name. > even with a donation. > > --- On Thu, 1/20/11, Natalie wrote: > > > From: Natalie > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] opinions on strange situation(kitty to adopt) > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Thursday, January 20, 2011, 7:53 AM > > > First of all, instead of sedating the cat to use a carrier (can't be that > bad), spray some Feliway into it about 1/2 hr before; add some catnip to the > bedding, and maybe a treat or two. > I suspect that the "problem" with vet(s) could be non-paymentthat's what > I usually come across with people who rescue on their own and don't get a > price-break, getting themselves into a hole and switch vets all the time > (unless it was an incompetent vet). > I would just take the cat to a vet ASAP, that's the only way to get some > definitive answers about the cat's health. Is the cat neutered? I bet he's > not masturbating - it's probably something completely different - maybe > sucking on fabric, etc. > Natalie > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Emeraldkittee > Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 9:27 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] opinions on strange situation(kitty to adopt) > > An acquaintance in rescue put me in touch with a person whose dying relative > has a supposed double positive- FeLV and FIV. She can't take him because of > the amount of other pets the relative has and will add to her own bunch. > We've had a few conversations. I have been told the following: the kitty > hasn't seen a vet in 2 yrs, hasn't had a check up in over 4, has always been > very thin, gets overstimulated, masturbates on his bed (I mention because to > me it's behavioral/lonely/frustrated); has escaped from the room he's in and > never attacks the other cats. The kitty is around 5 or 6 and has been in > supposed perfect health. There's never been an IFA or Western Blot. > > I don't feel comfortable bringing a kitty in without some knowledge of their > health - I offered to pay for a check up and IFA, and said we could > certainly use their vet. She mentioned she no longer goes to that vet and > didn't know 'who we could use' but knows some 'dr who can draw blood'. Today > she said she doesn't want to make that dr mad (?) and wants her permission > to do the IFA . I offered to send a home visit vet, but she 'doesn't know'. > It's not a problem with this home, because I am invited there. > > > When I offered to take the kitty to a vet myself she said he doesn't like > carriers and might need a shot to be sedated. That wasn't mentioned the > first few conversations. > > Stating the obvious, this is not making sense to me. I know this person is > overwhelmed with alot of big life issues, and I can appreciate that. BUT. I > am going to meet this kitty to see how I can help/what the situation is, but > why would someone resist this chance for care, even if it doesn't lead to an > adoption? She did agree it's possible he'd come up negative, but doesn't > know about doing this. > > I did meet another kitty I know I want to adopt but these illogical > co
Re: [Felvtalk] opinions on strange situation(kitty to adopt)
Chicago. I need to move to get better kitty prices! --- On Fri, 1/21/11, POTT, BEVERLY wrote: From: POTT, BEVERLY Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] opinions on strange situation(kitty to adopt) To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Friday, January 21, 2011, 12:07 PM Wow, where do you live?!? That is freaking high! -Original Message- From: Emeraldkittee [mailto:emeraldkit...@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 7:49 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] opinions on strange situation(kitty to adopt) I think so, but that's the norm around here. $105 total blood panel $225 IFA $225 Western Blot $34 urine test/cystocentsis $17 fecal $50 exam I think I just figured out why I don't get to Hawaii much ;) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] opinions on strange situation(kitty to adopt)
Wow, where do you live?!? That is freaking high! -Original Message- From: Emeraldkittee [mailto:emeraldkit...@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 7:49 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] opinions on strange situation(kitty to adopt) I think so, but that's the norm around here. $105 total blood panel $225 IFA $225 Western Blot $34 urine test/cystocentsis $17 fecal $50 exam I think I just figured out why I don't get to Hawaii much ;) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] opinions on strange situation(kitty to adopt)
I think so, but that's the norm around here. $105 total blood panel $225 IFA $225 Western Blot $34 urine test/cystocentsis $17 fecal $50 exam I think I just figured out why I don't get to Hawaii much ;) --- On Thu, 1/20/11, W wrote: From: W Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] opinions on strange situation(kitty to adopt) To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Date: Thursday, January 20, 2011, 3:58 PM Isn't $600 a bit expensive??? Wow! Sent from my iPhone On Jan 20, 2011, at 1:04 PM, Emeraldkittee wrote: > Hey Natalie and everyone, > > I know, just for me to take this guy and do everything it would be over $600 > ($750 for a home visit) – and I just can’t do that with all my own special > needs babies. I completely thought she was affiliated with a rescue group > and I could do this at a discount. The $600 would be full blood panel, > exam, fecal, check urine, western blot and IFA. I’m going to call the woman > who referred me and see if we can do something under her rescue group. My > vet works with a group but they won’t let me process him under their name. > even with a donation. > > --- On Thu, 1/20/11, Natalie wrote: > > > From: Natalie > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] opinions on strange situation(kitty to adopt) > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Thursday, January 20, 2011, 7:53 AM > > > First of all, instead of sedating the cat to use a carrier (can't be that > bad), spray some Feliway into it about 1/2 hr before; add some catnip to the > bedding, and maybe a treat or two. > I suspect that the "problem" with vet(s) could be non-paymentthat's what > I usually come across with people who rescue on their own and don't get a > price-break, getting themselves into a hole and switch vets all the time > (unless it was an incompetent vet). > I would just take the cat to a vet ASAP, that's the only way to get some > definitive answers about the cat's health. Is the cat neutered? I bet he's > not masturbating - it's probably something completely different - maybe > sucking on fabric, etc. > Natalie > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Emeraldkittee > Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 9:27 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] opinions on strange situation(kitty to adopt) > > An acquaintance in rescue put me in touch with a person whose dying relative > has a supposed double positive- FeLV and FIV. She can't take him because of > the amount of other pets the relative has and will add to her own bunch. > We've had a few conversations. I have been told the following: the kitty > hasn't seen a vet in 2 yrs, hasn't had a check up in over 4, has always been > very thin, gets overstimulated, masturbates on his bed (I mention because to > me it's behavioral/lonely/frustrated); has escaped from the room he's in and > never attacks the other cats. The kitty is around 5 or 6 and has been in > supposed perfect health. There's never been an IFA or Western Blot. > > I don't feel comfortable bringing a kitty in without some knowledge of their > health - I offered to pay for a check up and IFA, and said we could > certainly use their vet. She mentioned she no longer goes to that vet and > didn't know 'who we could use' but knows some 'dr who can draw blood'. Today > she said she doesn't want to make that dr mad (?) and wants her permission > to do the IFA . I offered to send a home visit vet, but she 'doesn't know'. > It's not a problem with this home, because I am invited there. > > > When I offered to take the kitty to a vet myself she said he doesn't like > carriers and might need a shot to be sedated. That wasn't mentioned the > first few conversations. > > Stating the obvious, this is not making sense to me. I know this person is > overwhelmed with alot of big life issues, and I can appreciate that. BUT. I > am going to meet this kitty to see how I can help/what the situation is, but > why would someone resist this chance for care, even if it doesn't lead to an > adoption? She did agree it's possible he'd come up negative, but doesn't > know about doing this. > > I did meet another kitty I know I want to adopt but these illogical > conversations and this cat have been weighing on my mind and I feel I need > to see what's going on. I got the impression there was a problem with the > vet she originally used, like she can't go back. Most people this deep into > rescue have a vet or two they know and useso, what i
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Isn't $600 a bit expensive??? Wow! Sent from my iPhone On Jan 20, 2011, at 1:04 PM, Emeraldkittee wrote: > Hey Natalie and everyone, > > I know, just for me to take this guy and do everything it would be over $600 > ($750 for a home visit) – and I just can’t do that with all my own special > needs babies. I completely thought she was affiliated with a rescue group > and I could do this at a discount. The $600 would be full blood panel, > exam, fecal, check urine, western blot and IFA. I’m going to call the woman > who referred me and see if we can do something under her rescue group. My > vet works with a group but they won’t let me process him under their name. > even with a donation. > > --- On Thu, 1/20/11, Natalie wrote: > > > From: Natalie > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] opinions on strange situation(kitty to adopt) > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Thursday, January 20, 2011, 7:53 AM > > > First of all, instead of sedating the cat to use a carrier (can't be that > bad), spray some Feliway into it about 1/2 hr before; add some catnip to the > bedding, and maybe a treat or two. > I suspect that the "problem" with vet(s) could be non-paymentthat's what > I usually come across with people who rescue on their own and don't get a > price-break, getting themselves into a hole and switch vets all the time > (unless it was an incompetent vet). > I would just take the cat to a vet ASAP, that's the only way to get some > definitive answers about the cat's health. Is the cat neutered? I bet he's > not masturbating - it's probably something completely different - maybe > sucking on fabric, etc. > Natalie > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Emeraldkittee > Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 9:27 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] opinions on strange situation(kitty to adopt) > > An acquaintance in rescue put me in touch with a person whose dying relative > has a supposed double positive- FeLV and FIV. She can't take him because of > the amount of other pets the relative has and will add to her own bunch. > We've had a few conversations. I have been told the following: the kitty > hasn't seen a vet in 2 yrs, hasn't had a check up in over 4, has always been > very thin, gets overstimulated, masturbates on his bed (I mention because to > me it's behavioral/lonely/frustrated); has escaped from the room he's in and > never attacks the other cats. The kitty is around 5 or 6 and has been in > supposed perfect health. There's never been an IFA or Western Blot. > > I don't feel comfortable bringing a kitty in without some knowledge of their > health - I offered to pay for a check up and IFA, and said we could > certainly use their vet. She mentioned she no longer goes to that vet and > didn't know 'who we could use' but knows some 'dr who can draw blood'. Today > she said she doesn't want to make that dr mad (?) and wants her permission > to do the IFA . I offered to send a home visit vet, but she 'doesn't know'. > It's not a problem with this home, because I am invited there. > > > When I offered to take the kitty to a vet myself she said he doesn't like > carriers and might need a shot to be sedated. That wasn't mentioned the > first few conversations. > > Stating the obvious, this is not making sense to me. I know this person is > overwhelmed with alot of big life issues, and I can appreciate that. BUT. I > am going to meet this kitty to see how I can help/what the situation is, but > why would someone resist this chance for care, even if it doesn't lead to an > adoption? She did agree it's possible he'd come up negative, but doesn't > know about doing this. > > I did meet another kitty I know I want to adopt but these illogical > conversations and this cat have been weighing on my mind and I feel I need > to see what's going on. I got the impression there was a problem with the > vet she originally used, like she can't go back. Most people this deep into > rescue have a vet or two they know and useso, what is the real story? > How can I best help... > > Thanks, I really appreciate any opinions or guidance from all your varied > experience. > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > __
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Here is the fundraising site http://www.chipin.com/overview "Love animals: God has given them the rudiments of thought and joy untroubled. Do not trouble their joy, don't harass them, don't deprive them of their happiness, don't work against God's intent. Man, do not pride yourself on superiority to animals; they are without sin, and you, with your greatness, defile the earth by your appearance on it, and leave the traces of your foulness after you - alas, it is true of almost every one of us!"~Fyodor Dostoyevsky -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Laurieskatz Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 1:10 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] opinions on strange situation(kitty to adopt) I'll help with $ if needed. There's a way to do a chip in donation online. Others here have done it, Second Chance Meows has, I think. Do you know how to do that? If not, I will send you a check. "Love animals: God has given them the rudiments of thought and joy untroubled. Do not trouble their joy, don't harass them, don't deprive them of their happiness, don't work against God's intent. Man, do not pride yourself on superiority to animals; they are without sin, and you, with your greatness, defile the earth by your appearance on it, and leave the traces of your foulness after you - alas, it is true of almost every one of us!"~Fyodor Dostoyevsky -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Emeraldkittee Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 1:05 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] opinions on strange situation(kitty to adopt) Hey Natalie and everyone, I know, just for me to take this guy and do everything it would be over $600 ($750 for a home visit) – and I just can’t do that with all my own special needs babies. I completely thought she was affiliated with a rescue group and I could do this at a discount. The $600 would be full blood panel, exam, fecal, check urine, western blot and IFA. I’m going to call the woman who referred me and see if we can do something under her rescue group. My vet works with a group but they won’t let me process him under their name. even with a donation. --- On Thu, 1/20/11, Natalie wrote: From: Natalie Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] opinions on strange situation(kitty to adopt) To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, January 20, 2011, 7:53 AM First of all, instead of sedating the cat to use a carrier (can't be that bad), spray some Feliway into it about 1/2 hr before; add some catnip to the bedding, and maybe a treat or two. I suspect that the "problem" with vet(s) could be non-paymentthat's what I usually come across with people who rescue on their own and don't get a price-break, getting themselves into a hole and switch vets all the time (unless it was an incompetent vet). I would just take the cat to a vet ASAP, that's the only way to get some definitive answers about the cat's health. Is the cat neutered? I bet he's not masturbating - it's probably something completely different - maybe sucking on fabric, etc. Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Emeraldkittee Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 9:27 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] opinions on strange situation(kitty to adopt) An acquaintance in rescue put me in touch with a person whose dying relative has a supposed double positive- FeLV and FIV. She can't take him because of the amount of other pets the relative has and will add to her own bunch. We've had a few conversations. I have been told the following: the kitty hasn't seen a vet in 2 yrs, hasn't had a check up in over 4, has always been very thin, gets overstimulated, masturbates on his bed (I mention because to me it's behavioral/lonely/frustrated); has escaped from the room he's in and never attacks the other cats. The kitty is around 5 or 6 and has been in supposed perfect health. There's never been an IFA or Western Blot. I don't feel comfortable bringing a kitty in without some knowledge of their health - I offered to pay for a check up and IFA, and said we could certainly use their vet. She mentioned she no longer goes to that vet and didn't know 'who we could use' but knows some 'dr who can draw blood'. Today she said she doesn't want to make that dr mad (?) and wants her permission to do the IFA . I offered to send a home visit vet, but she 'doesn't know'. It's not a problem with this home, because I am invited there. When I offered to take the kitty to a vet myself she sai
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I'll help with $ if needed. There's a way to do a chip in donation online. Others here have done it, Second Chance Meows has, I think. Do you know how to do that? If not, I will send you a check. "Love animals: God has given them the rudiments of thought and joy untroubled. Do not trouble their joy, don't harass them, don't deprive them of their happiness, don't work against God's intent. Man, do not pride yourself on superiority to animals; they are without sin, and you, with your greatness, defile the earth by your appearance on it, and leave the traces of your foulness after you - alas, it is true of almost every one of us!"~Fyodor Dostoyevsky -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Emeraldkittee Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 1:05 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] opinions on strange situation(kitty to adopt) Hey Natalie and everyone, I know, just for me to take this guy and do everything it would be over $600 ($750 for a home visit) – and I just can’t do that with all my own special needs babies. I completely thought she was affiliated with a rescue group and I could do this at a discount. The $600 would be full blood panel, exam, fecal, check urine, western blot and IFA. I’m going to call the woman who referred me and see if we can do something under her rescue group. My vet works with a group but they won’t let me process him under their name. even with a donation. --- On Thu, 1/20/11, Natalie wrote: From: Natalie Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] opinions on strange situation(kitty to adopt) To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, January 20, 2011, 7:53 AM First of all, instead of sedating the cat to use a carrier (can't be that bad), spray some Feliway into it about 1/2 hr before; add some catnip to the bedding, and maybe a treat or two. I suspect that the "problem" with vet(s) could be non-paymentthat's what I usually come across with people who rescue on their own and don't get a price-break, getting themselves into a hole and switch vets all the time (unless it was an incompetent vet). I would just take the cat to a vet ASAP, that's the only way to get some definitive answers about the cat's health. Is the cat neutered? I bet he's not masturbating - it's probably something completely different - maybe sucking on fabric, etc. Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Emeraldkittee Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 9:27 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] opinions on strange situation(kitty to adopt) An acquaintance in rescue put me in touch with a person whose dying relative has a supposed double positive- FeLV and FIV. She can't take him because of the amount of other pets the relative has and will add to her own bunch. We've had a few conversations. I have been told the following: the kitty hasn't seen a vet in 2 yrs, hasn't had a check up in over 4, has always been very thin, gets overstimulated, masturbates on his bed (I mention because to me it's behavioral/lonely/frustrated); has escaped from the room he's in and never attacks the other cats. The kitty is around 5 or 6 and has been in supposed perfect health. There's never been an IFA or Western Blot. I don't feel comfortable bringing a kitty in without some knowledge of their health - I offered to pay for a check up and IFA, and said we could certainly use their vet. She mentioned she no longer goes to that vet and didn't know 'who we could use' but knows some 'dr who can draw blood'. Today she said she doesn't want to make that dr mad (?) and wants her permission to do the IFA . I offered to send a home visit vet, but she 'doesn't know'. It's not a problem with this home, because I am invited there. When I offered to take the kitty to a vet myself she said he doesn't like carriers and might need a shot to be sedated. That wasn't mentioned the first few conversations. Stating the obvious, this is not making sense to me. I know this person is overwhelmed with alot of big life issues, and I can appreciate that. BUT. I am going to meet this kitty to see how I can help/what the situation is, but why would someone resist this chance for care, even if it doesn't lead to an adoption? She did agree it's possible he'd come up negative, but doesn't know about doing this. I did meet another kitty I know I want to adopt but these illogical conversations and this cat have been weighing on my mind and I feel I need to see what's going on. I got the impression there was a problem with the vet she originally used, like she can't go ba
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Hey Natalie and everyone, I know, just for me to take this guy and do everything it would be over $600 ($750 for a home visit) – and I just can’t do that with all my own special needs babies. I completely thought she was affiliated with a rescue group and I could do this at a discount. The $600 would be full blood panel, exam, fecal, check urine, western blot and IFA. I’m going to call the woman who referred me and see if we can do something under her rescue group. My vet works with a group but they won’t let me process him under their name. even with a donation. --- On Thu, 1/20/11, Natalie wrote: From: Natalie Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] opinions on strange situation(kitty to adopt) To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, January 20, 2011, 7:53 AM First of all, instead of sedating the cat to use a carrier (can't be that bad), spray some Feliway into it about 1/2 hr before; add some catnip to the bedding, and maybe a treat or two. I suspect that the "problem" with vet(s) could be non-paymentthat's what I usually come across with people who rescue on their own and don't get a price-break, getting themselves into a hole and switch vets all the time (unless it was an incompetent vet). I would just take the cat to a vet ASAP, that's the only way to get some definitive answers about the cat's health. Is the cat neutered? I bet he's not masturbating - it's probably something completely different - maybe sucking on fabric, etc. Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Emeraldkittee Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 9:27 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] opinions on strange situation(kitty to adopt) An acquaintance in rescue put me in touch with a person whose dying relative has a supposed double positive- FeLV and FIV. She can't take him because of the amount of other pets the relative has and will add to her own bunch. We've had a few conversations. I have been told the following: the kitty hasn't seen a vet in 2 yrs, hasn't had a check up in over 4, has always been very thin, gets overstimulated, masturbates on his bed (I mention because to me it's behavioral/lonely/frustrated); has escaped from the room he's in and never attacks the other cats. The kitty is around 5 or 6 and has been in supposed perfect health. There's never been an IFA or Western Blot. I don't feel comfortable bringing a kitty in without some knowledge of their health - I offered to pay for a check up and IFA, and said we could certainly use their vet. She mentioned she no longer goes to that vet and didn't know 'who we could use' but knows some 'dr who can draw blood'. Today she said she doesn't want to make that dr mad (?) and wants her permission to do the IFA . I offered to send a home visit vet, but she 'doesn't know'. It's not a problem with this home, because I am invited there. When I offered to take the kitty to a vet myself she said he doesn't like carriers and might need a shot to be sedated. That wasn't mentioned the first few conversations. Stating the obvious, this is not making sense to me. I know this person is overwhelmed with alot of big life issues, and I can appreciate that. BUT. I am going to meet this kitty to see how I can help/what the situation is, but why would someone resist this chance for care, even if it doesn't lead to an adoption? She did agree it's possible he'd come up negative, but doesn't know about doing this. I did meet another kitty I know I want to adopt but these illogical conversations and this cat have been weighing on my mind and I feel I need to see what's going on. I got the impression there was a problem with the vet she originally used, like she can't go back. Most people this deep into rescue have a vet or two they know and useso, what is the real story? How can I best help... Thanks, I really appreciate any opinions or guidance from all your varied experience. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Wow, sounds like she has issues- what kind, who knows? See if your vet will give you an ace promazine (or something similar) to give the cat, so that you can get it in the carrier (provided the woman lets you take it anywhere!). Since he's stuck in a room, he can't really hide when the sedation starts to take effect. Poor kitty. He sounds absolutely miserable. :-( Alternatively, I can go to the house and steal the cat for you, if you like... (haha! Just kidding ;-)) -Original Message- From: Emeraldkittee [mailto:emeraldkit...@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 9:27 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] opinions on strange situation(kitty to adopt) An acquaintance in rescue put me in touch with a person whose dying relative has a supposed double positive- FeLV and FIV. She can't take him because of the amount of other pets the relative has and will add to her own bunch. We've had a few conversations. I have been told the following: the kitty hasn't seen a vet in 2 yrs, hasn't had a check up in over 4, has always been very thin, gets overstimulated, masturbates on his bed (I mention because to me it's behavioral/lonely/frustrated); has escaped from the room he's in and never attacks the other cats. The kitty is around 5 or 6 and has been in supposed perfect health. There's never been an IFA or Western Blot. I don't feel comfortable bringing a kitty in without some knowledge of their health - I offered to pay for a check up and IFA, and said we could certainly use their vet. She mentioned she no longer goes to that vet and didn't know 'who we could use' but knows some 'dr who can draw blood'. Today she said she doesn't want to make that dr mad (?) and wants her permission to do the IFA . I offered to send a home visit vet, but she 'doesn't know'. It's not a problem with this home, because I am invited there. When I offered to take the kitty to a vet myself she said he doesn't like carriers and might need a shot to be sedated. That wasn't mentioned the first few conversations. Stating the obvious, this is not making sense to me. I know this person is overwhelmed with alot of big life issues, and I can appreciate that. BUT. I am going to meet this kitty to see how I can help/what the situation is, but why would someone resist this chance for care, even if it doesn't lead to an adoption? She did agree it's possible he'd come up negative, but doesn't know about doing this. I did meet another kitty I know I want to adopt but these illogical conversations and this cat have been weighing on my mind and I feel I need to see what's going on. I got the impression there was a problem with the vet she originally used, like she can't go back. Most people this deep into rescue have a vet or two they know and useso, what is the real story? How can I best help... Thanks, I really appreciate any opinions or guidance from all your varied experience. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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In a similar case I got my hands on the cat and never returned the cat. The guy was furious with me but the cat was much better off. She was starved and not altered. She came with six kittens. He called me about the kittens. I asked about the mom and said I would pay to have her spayed but when I saw her condition I did not return her. Had he pushed it, I would have filed neglect or cruelty charges. Please get that kitty asap. I, frankly, dont' see any need for gathering more information. You know the woman has issues and it sounds like the cat does. They often go together. Even if he is a mess and has to be EU that is better than emotional abandonment and living like he is. I hope you will get that kitty today, even. If you have to, take someone with you for support. I suspect that kitty will bond to whomever takes him. All he wants is to be loved. I believe he will be so grateful to just be loved. Kitties are so sensitive. She probably emotionally terrorizes him. You can't trust her assessment. She does sound like a hoarder. You can assess him once you have him. If you don't have other cats, I wouldn't even bother with the testing. I would get him out of her possession however you can and never return him. you can promise to do what she wants but you don't have to do it. BEST INTERESTS OF THE CAT. If you can't keep him, Contact Carmen at C&W shelter in Nashua, IA (she is on this list). She requires sponsorship and has other FeLV/FIV kitties. God bless this kitty. I know I won't sleep well until he is safe. "Love animals: God has given them the rudiments of thought and joy untroubled. Do not trouble their joy, don't harass them, don't deprive them of their happiness, don't work against God's intent. Man, do not pride yourself on superiority to animals; they are without sin, and you, with your greatness, defile the earth by your appearance on it, and leave the traces of your foulness after you - alas, it is true of almost every one of us!"~Fyodor Dostoyevsky -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Emeraldkittee Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 5:44 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] opinions on strange situation(kitty to adopt) Thanks, Heather. I think your gut is pretty much on target. this kitty needs help and maybe I can network to get him some help if she refuses mine. I also noticed she expressed interest at another cat I mentioned seeing - she didn't say she'd adopt him but that she was thinking about him and 'wondering ' This concerned me - if she's trying to place so many cats, she's considering to adopt herself? The word horder crossed my mind, although she claims to have a managable amount at her home. she mentioned someone else is trying to get her to take a cat and she 'didn't know'. Thanks again, we'll see how it goes!! --- On Wed, 1/19/11, Heather Wienker wrote: From: Heather Wienker Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] opinions on strange situation(kitty to adopt) To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Date: Wednesday, January 19, 2011, 10:58 PM I will write more when I can get to a computer but my gut (from a distance knowing far less than you so perhaps not entitled to a 'gut' on this:) is that yes, this woman has issues (or sometimes 'normal' people the issue is that they are too preoccupied with their own lives) and the cat needs help which will likely require someone just taking the cat asap. I totally understand you may not be able to do that, sadly even many rescue people don't understand the importance of an IFA or what giving a home to and felv cat really entails. And 'normal' people seeking help for a cat often aren't willing to do much and will make every excuse in the world why they can't. Or perhaps she really is just kind of nuts, that is quite possible. Poor kitty:( Thank you for caring enough to explore further. I've also seen rescue people say 'somethings not right--I'm out of this one", but those are likely often some of the situations where the animal really needs help. I may be way wrong though! It is so hard to guess what the heck is up with people much of the time but getting away from crazy people/bad situations often seems to help the cats who the people claim are the ones with the problem (and they are, due to the people and all they've been through). Scent from my wireless handheld litterbox =^..^= On Jan 19, 2011, at 11:25 PM, Emeraldkittee wrote: > thanks, Laurie, I appreciate you chiming in. > > yes, he is neutered, he wandered into her yard fixed, many years ago. She gave the cat to the relative, then a boyfriend, then the relative again. The kitty doesn't get daily attention, since she doesn't live there, w
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First of all, instead of sedating the cat to use a carrier (can't be that bad), spray some Feliway into it about 1/2 hr before; add some catnip to the bedding, and maybe a treat or two. I suspect that the "problem" with vet(s) could be non-paymentthat's what I usually come across with people who rescue on their own and don't get a price-break, getting themselves into a hole and switch vets all the time (unless it was an incompetent vet). I would just take the cat to a vet ASAP, that's the only way to get some definitive answers about the cat's health. Is the cat neutered? I bet he's not masturbating - it's probably something completely different - maybe sucking on fabric, etc. Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Emeraldkittee Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 9:27 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] opinions on strange situation(kitty to adopt) An acquaintance in rescue put me in touch with a person whose dying relative has a supposed double positive- FeLV and FIV. She can't take him because of the amount of other pets the relative has and will add to her own bunch. We've had a few conversations. I have been told the following: the kitty hasn't seen a vet in 2 yrs, hasn't had a check up in over 4, has always been very thin, gets overstimulated, masturbates on his bed (I mention because to me it's behavioral/lonely/frustrated); has escaped from the room he's in and never attacks the other cats. The kitty is around 5 or 6 and has been in supposed perfect health. There's never been an IFA or Western Blot. I don't feel comfortable bringing a kitty in without some knowledge of their health - I offered to pay for a check up and IFA, and said we could certainly use their vet. She mentioned she no longer goes to that vet and didn't know 'who we could use' but knows some 'dr who can draw blood'. Today she said she doesn't want to make that dr mad (?) and wants her permission to do the IFA . I offered to send a home visit vet, but she 'doesn't know'. It's not a problem with this home, because I am invited there. When I offered to take the kitty to a vet myself she said he doesn't like carriers and might need a shot to be sedated. That wasn't mentioned the first few conversations. Stating the obvious, this is not making sense to me. I know this person is overwhelmed with alot of big life issues, and I can appreciate that. BUT. I am going to meet this kitty to see how I can help/what the situation is, but why would someone resist this chance for care, even if it doesn't lead to an adoption? She did agree it's possible he'd come up negative, but doesn't know about doing this. I did meet another kitty I know I want to adopt but these illogical conversations and this cat have been weighing on my mind and I feel I need to see what's going on. I got the impression there was a problem with the vet she originally used, like she can't go back. Most people this deep into rescue have a vet or two they know and useso, what is the real story? How can I best help... Thanks, I really appreciate any opinions or guidance from all your varied experience. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Thanks, Heather. I think your gut is pretty much on target. this kitty needs help and maybe I can network to get him some help if she refuses mine. I also noticed she expressed interest at another cat I mentioned seeing - she didn't say she'd adopt him but that she was thinking about him and 'wondering ' This concerned me - if she's trying to place so many cats, she's considering to adopt herself? The word horder crossed my mind, although she claims to have a managable amount at her home. she mentioned someone else is trying to get her to take a cat and she 'didn't know'. Thanks again, we'll see how it goes!! --- On Wed, 1/19/11, Heather Wienker wrote: From: Heather Wienker Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] opinions on strange situation(kitty to adopt) To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Date: Wednesday, January 19, 2011, 10:58 PM I will write more when I can get to a computer but my gut (from a distance knowing far less than you so perhaps not entitled to a 'gut' on this:) is that yes, this woman has issues (or sometimes 'normal' people the issue is that they are too preoccupied with their own lives) and the cat needs help which will likely require someone just taking the cat asap. I totally understand you may not be able to do that, sadly even many rescue people don't understand the importance of an IFA or what giving a home to and felv cat really entails. And 'normal' people seeking help for a cat often aren't willing to do much and will make every excuse in the world why they can't. Or perhaps she really is just kind of nuts, that is quite possible. Poor kitty:( Thank you for caring enough to explore further. I've also seen rescue people say 'somethings not right--I'm out of this one", but those are likely often some of the situations where the animal really needs help. I may be way wrong though! It is so hard to guess what the heck is up with people much of the time but getting away from crazy people/bad situations often seems to help the cats who the people claim are the ones with the problem (and they are, due to the people and all they've been through). Scent from my wireless handheld litterbox =^..^= On Jan 19, 2011, at 11:25 PM, Emeraldkittee wrote: > thanks, Laurie, I appreciate you chiming in. > > yes, he is neutered, he wandered into her yard fixed, many years ago. She > gave the cat to the relative, then a boyfriend, then the relative again. The > kitty doesn't get daily attention, since she doesn't live there, which is why > I really want to assess the situation. Now she isn't sure about the size of > the space we can provide- one day we're great, the next day, she's got > misgivings. As far as the masturbation thing, she said she asked the vet > several years ago and was told the kitty is bored and lonely. I agree, the > kitty needs a vet - 'very thin' makes me want to check his thyroid and blood > sugar. It's hard to get her to stay focused, she rambles about other things; > I know I'm dealing with more than a sad kitty here. > --- On Wed, 1/19/11, Laurieskatz wrote: > > > From: Laurieskatz > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] opinions on strange situation(kitty to adopt) > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Wednesday, January 19, 2011, 9:44 PM > > > Imo this kitty needs your help. I did rescue for 13 years and have never > heard of a kitty masturbating...? is he neutered? She might be embarrassed > to have a cat in this condition belonging to a relative (this is my > suspicion). As a rescuer friend of mine says when she is trying to help > someone who is not being reasonable, "it's not the cat's fault". I would go > over there and assess things yourself. Take a carrier. If the carrier won't > work, ask about trapping him. Does anyone interact with this poor cat? The > "masturbation" might be another bodily fluid...dental issue or infection. It > sounds like this kitty needs to see a vet. How would her vet even know if > the cat saw someone else. She could say the potential adopter wanted to go > to someone else. I sense fear of something behind this refusal to cooperate. > Please go get him and let us know what you find out. > L > > "Love animals: God has given them the rudiments of thought and joy > untroubled. Do not trouble their joy, don't harass them, don't deprive them > of their happiness, don't work against God's intent. Man, do not pride > yourself on superiority to animals; they are without sin, and you, with your > greatness, defile the earth by your appearance on it, and leave the traces > of your foulness after you - alas, it is true of almost every one of > us!"~F
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yes, supposedly. The person who got me in contact with her I have never met in person, but she helped me with my TNR/Colony, and she runs a respected group and is well known/respected by local vets. I don't think she knows this lady well, but I might call and ask what the deal is. Thanks :) --- On Wed, 1/19/11, Heather Wienker wrote: From: Heather Wienker Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] opinions on strange situation(kitty to adopt) To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Date: Wednesday, January 19, 2011, 11:14 PM So this woman is a rescue type person? How did you come into contact? Wonder if any local rescues or shelters know of her. It is all odd, could just be emotional issues. Scent from my wireless handheld litterbox =^..^= On Jan 19, 2011, at 11:25 PM, Emeraldkittee wrote: > thanks, Laurie, I appreciate you chiming in. > > yes, he is neutered, he wandered into her yard fixed, many years ago. She > gave the cat to the relative, then a boyfriend, then the relative again. The > kitty doesn't get daily attention, since she doesn't live there, which is why > I really want to assess the situation. Now she isn't sure about the size of > the space we can provide- one day we're great, the next day, she's got > misgivings. As far as the masturbation thing, she said she asked the vet > several years ago and was told the kitty is bored and lonely. I agree, the > kitty needs a vet - 'very thin' makes me want to check his thyroid and blood > sugar. It's hard to get her to stay focused, she rambles about other things; > I know I'm dealing with more than a sad kitty here. > --- On Wed, 1/19/11, Laurieskatz wrote: > > > From: Laurieskatz > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] opinions on strange situation(kitty to adopt) > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Wednesday, January 19, 2011, 9:44 PM > > > Imo this kitty needs your help. I did rescue for 13 years and have never > heard of a kitty masturbating...? is he neutered? She might be embarrassed > to have a cat in this condition belonging to a relative (this is my > suspicion). As a rescuer friend of mine says when she is trying to help > someone who is not being reasonable, "it's not the cat's fault". I would go > over there and assess things yourself. Take a carrier. If the carrier won't > work, ask about trapping him. Does anyone interact with this poor cat? The > "masturbation" might be another bodily fluid...dental issue or infection. It > sounds like this kitty needs to see a vet. How would her vet even know if > the cat saw someone else. She could say the potential adopter wanted to go > to someone else. I sense fear of something behind this refusal to cooperate. > Please go get him and let us know what you find out. > L > > "Love animals: God has given them the rudiments of thought and joy > untroubled. Do not trouble their joy, don't harass them, don't deprive them > of their happiness, don't work against God's intent. Man, do not pride > yourself on superiority to animals; they are without sin, and you, with your > greatness, defile the earth by your appearance on it, and leave the traces > of your foulness after you - alas, it is true of almost every one of > us!"~Fyodor Dostoyevsky > > > > -----Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Emeraldkittee > Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 8:27 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] opinions on strange situation(kitty to adopt) > > An acquaintance in rescue put me in touch with a person whose dying relative > has a supposed double positive- FeLV and FIV. She can't take him because of > the amount of other pets the relative has and will add to her own bunch. > We've had a few conversations. I have been told the following: the kitty > hasn't seen a vet in 2 yrs, hasn't had a check up in over 4, has always been > very thin, gets overstimulated, masturbates on his bed (I mention because to > me it's behavioral/lonely/frustrated); has escaped from the room he's in and > never attacks the other cats. The kitty is around 5 or 6 and has been in > supposed perfect health. There's never been an IFA or Western Blot. > > I don't feel comfortable bringing a kitty in without some knowledge of their > health - I offered to pay for a check up and IFA, and said we could > certainly use their vet. She mentioned she no longer goes to that vet and > didn't know 'who we could use' but knows some 'dr who can draw blood'. Today > she said she doesn't want to make that dr mad (?) and wants her permission &
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So this woman is a rescue type person? How did you come into contact? Wonder if any local rescues or shelters know of her. It is all odd, could just be emotional issues. Scent from my wireless handheld litterbox =^..^= On Jan 19, 2011, at 11:25 PM, Emeraldkittee wrote: thanks, Laurie, I appreciate you chiming in. yes, he is neutered, he wandered into her yard fixed, many years ago. She gave the cat to the relative, then a boyfriend, then the relative again. The kitty doesn't get daily attention, since she doesn't live there, which is why I really want to assess the situation. Now she isn't sure about the size of the space we can provide- one day we're great, the next day, she's got misgivings. As far as the masturbation thing, she said she asked the vet several years ago and was told the kitty is bored and lonely. I agree, the kitty needs a vet - 'very thin' makes me want to check his thyroid and blood sugar. It's hard to get her to stay focused, she rambles about other things; I know I'm dealing with more than a sad kitty here. --- On Wed, 1/19/11, Laurieskatz wrote: From: Laurieskatz Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] opinions on strange situation(kitty to adopt) To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, January 19, 2011, 9:44 PM Imo this kitty needs your help. I did rescue for 13 years and have never heard of a kitty masturbating...? is he neutered? She might be embarrassed to have a cat in this condition belonging to a relative (this is my suspicion). As a rescuer friend of mine says when she is trying to help someone who is not being reasonable, "it's not the cat's fault". I would go over there and assess things yourself. Take a carrier. If the carrier won't work, ask about trapping him. Does anyone interact with this poor cat? The "masturbation" might be another bodily fluid...dental issue or infection. It sounds like this kitty needs to see a vet. How would her vet even know if the cat saw someone else. She could say the potential adopter wanted to go to someone else. I sense fear of something behind this refusal to cooperate. Please go get him and let us know what you find out. L "Love animals: God has given them the rudiments of thought and joy untroubled. Do not trouble their joy, don't harass them, don't deprive them of their happiness, don't work against God's intent. Man, do not pride yourself on superiority to animals; they are without sin, and you, with your greatness, defile the earth by your appearance on it, and leave the traces of your foulness after you - alas, it is true of almost every one of us!"~Fyodor Dostoyevsky -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Emeraldkittee Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 8:27 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] opinions on strange situation(kitty to adopt) An acquaintance in rescue put me in touch with a person whose dying relative has a supposed double positive- FeLV and FIV. She can't take him because of the amount of other pets the relative has and will add to her own bunch. We've had a few conversations. I have been told the following: the kitty hasn't seen a vet in 2 yrs, hasn't had a check up in over 4, has always been very thin, gets overstimulated, masturbates on his bed (I mention because to me it's behavioral/lonely/frustrated); has escaped from the room he's in and never attacks the other cats. The kitty is around 5 or 6 and has been in supposed perfect health. There's never been an IFA or Western Blot. I don't feel comfortable bringing a kitty in without some knowledge of their health - I offered to pay for a check up and IFA, and said we could certainly use their vet. She mentioned she no longer goes to that vet and didn't know 'who we could use' but knows some 'dr who can draw blood'. Today she said she doesn't want to make that dr mad (?) and wants her permission to do the IFA . I offered to send a home visit vet, but she 'doesn't know'. It's not a problem with this home, because I am invited there. When I offered to take the kitty to a vet myself she said he doesn't like carriers and might need a shot to be sedated. That wasn't mentioned the first few conversations. Stating the obvious, this is not making sense to me. I know this person is overwhelmed with alot of big life issues, and I can appreciate that. BUT. I am going to meet this kitty to see how I can help/what the situation is, but why would someone resist this chance for care, even if it doesn't lead to an adoption? She did agree it's possible he'd come up negative, but doesn't know about doing this.
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I will write more when I can get to a computer but my gut (from a distance knowing far less than you so perhaps not entitled to a 'gut' on this:) is that yes, this woman has issues (or sometimes 'normal' people the issue is that they are too preoccupied with their own lives) and the cat needs help which will likely require someone just taking the cat asap. I totally understand you may not be able to do that, sadly even many rescue people don't understand the importance of an IFA or what giving a home to and felv cat really entails. And 'normal' people seeking help for a cat often aren't willing to do much and will make every excuse in the world why they can't. Or perhaps she really is just kind of nuts, that is quite possible. Poor kitty:( Thank you for caring enough to explore further. I've also seen rescue people say 'somethings not right--I'm out of this one", but those are likely often some of the situations where the animal really needs help. I may be way wrong though! It is so hard to guess what the heck is up with people much of the time but getting away from crazy people/ bad situations often seems to help the cats who the people claim are the ones with the problem (and they are, due to the people and all they've been through). Scent from my wireless handheld litterbox =^..^= On Jan 19, 2011, at 11:25 PM, Emeraldkittee wrote: thanks, Laurie, I appreciate you chiming in. yes, he is neutered, he wandered into her yard fixed, many years ago. She gave the cat to the relative, then a boyfriend, then the relative again. The kitty doesn't get daily attention, since she doesn't live there, which is why I really want to assess the situation. Now she isn't sure about the size of the space we can provide- one day we're great, the next day, she's got misgivings. As far as the masturbation thing, she said she asked the vet several years ago and was told the kitty is bored and lonely. I agree, the kitty needs a vet - 'very thin' makes me want to check his thyroid and blood sugar. It's hard to get her to stay focused, she rambles about other things; I know I'm dealing with more than a sad kitty here. --- On Wed, 1/19/11, Laurieskatz wrote: From: Laurieskatz Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] opinions on strange situation(kitty to adopt) To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, January 19, 2011, 9:44 PM Imo this kitty needs your help. I did rescue for 13 years and have never heard of a kitty masturbating...? is he neutered? She might be embarrassed to have a cat in this condition belonging to a relative (this is my suspicion). As a rescuer friend of mine says when she is trying to help someone who is not being reasonable, "it's not the cat's fault". I would go over there and assess things yourself. Take a carrier. If the carrier won't work, ask about trapping him. Does anyone interact with this poor cat? The "masturbation" might be another bodily fluid...dental issue or infection. It sounds like this kitty needs to see a vet. How would her vet even know if the cat saw someone else. She could say the potential adopter wanted to go to someone else. I sense fear of something behind this refusal to cooperate. Please go get him and let us know what you find out. L "Love animals: God has given them the rudiments of thought and joy untroubled. Do not trouble their joy, don't harass them, don't deprive them of their happiness, don't work against God's intent. Man, do not pride yourself on superiority to animals; they are without sin, and you, with your greatness, defile the earth by your appearance on it, and leave the traces of your foulness after you - alas, it is true of almost every one of us!"~Fyodor Dostoyevsky -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Emeraldkittee Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 8:27 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] opinions on strange situation(kitty to adopt) An acquaintance in rescue put me in touch with a person whose dying relative has a supposed double positive- FeLV and FIV. She can't take him because of the amount of other pets the relative has and will add to her own bunch. We've had a few conversations. I have been told the following: the kitty hasn't seen a vet in 2 yrs, hasn't had a check up in over 4, has always been very thin, gets overstimulated, masturbates on his bed (I mention because to me it's behavioral/lonely/frustrated); has escaped from the room he's in and never attacks the other cats. The kitty is around 5 or 6 and has been in supposed perfect health. There's never been an IFA or Western Blot. I don't feel com
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thanks, Laurie, I appreciate you chiming in. yes, he is neutered, he wandered into her yard fixed, many years ago. She gave the cat to the relative, then a boyfriend, then the relative again. The kitty doesn't get daily attention, since she doesn't live there, which is why I really want to assess the situation. Now she isn't sure about the size of the space we can provide- one day we're great, the next day, she's got misgivings. As far as the masturbation thing, she said she asked the vet several years ago and was told the kitty is bored and lonely. I agree, the kitty needs a vet - 'very thin' makes me want to check his thyroid and blood sugar. It's hard to get her to stay focused, she rambles about other things; I know I'm dealing with more than a sad kitty here. --- On Wed, 1/19/11, Laurieskatz wrote: From: Laurieskatz Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] opinions on strange situation(kitty to adopt) To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, January 19, 2011, 9:44 PM Imo this kitty needs your help. I did rescue for 13 years and have never heard of a kitty masturbating...? is he neutered? She might be embarrassed to have a cat in this condition belonging to a relative (this is my suspicion). As a rescuer friend of mine says when she is trying to help someone who is not being reasonable, "it's not the cat's fault". I would go over there and assess things yourself. Take a carrier. If the carrier won't work, ask about trapping him. Does anyone interact with this poor cat? The "masturbation" might be another bodily fluid...dental issue or infection. It sounds like this kitty needs to see a vet. How would her vet even know if the cat saw someone else. She could say the potential adopter wanted to go to someone else. I sense fear of something behind this refusal to cooperate. Please go get him and let us know what you find out. L "Love animals: God has given them the rudiments of thought and joy untroubled. Do not trouble their joy, don't harass them, don't deprive them of their happiness, don't work against God's intent. Man, do not pride yourself on superiority to animals; they are without sin, and you, with your greatness, defile the earth by your appearance on it, and leave the traces of your foulness after you - alas, it is true of almost every one of us!"~Fyodor Dostoyevsky -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Emeraldkittee Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 8:27 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] opinions on strange situation(kitty to adopt) An acquaintance in rescue put me in touch with a person whose dying relative has a supposed double positive- FeLV and FIV. She can't take him because of the amount of other pets the relative has and will add to her own bunch. We've had a few conversations. I have been told the following: the kitty hasn't seen a vet in 2 yrs, hasn't had a check up in over 4, has always been very thin, gets overstimulated, masturbates on his bed (I mention because to me it's behavioral/lonely/frustrated); has escaped from the room he's in and never attacks the other cats. The kitty is around 5 or 6 and has been in supposed perfect health. There's never been an IFA or Western Blot. I don't feel comfortable bringing a kitty in without some knowledge of their health - I offered to pay for a check up and IFA, and said we could certainly use their vet. She mentioned she no longer goes to that vet and didn't know 'who we could use' but knows some 'dr who can draw blood'. Today she said she doesn't want to make that dr mad (?) and wants her permission to do the IFA . I offered to send a home visit vet, but she 'doesn't know'. It's not a problem with this home, because I am invited there. When I offered to take the kitty to a vet myself she said he doesn't like carriers and might need a shot to be sedated. That wasn't mentioned the first few conversations. Stating the obvious, this is not making sense to me. I know this person is overwhelmed with alot of big life issues, and I can appreciate that. BUT. I am going to meet this kitty to see how I can help/what the situation is, but why would someone resist this chance for care, even if it doesn't lead to an adoption? She did agree it's possible he'd come up negative, but doesn't know about doing this. I did meet another kitty I know I want to adopt but these illogical conversations and this cat have been weighing on my mind and I feel I need to see what's going on. I got the impression there was a problem with the vet she originally used, like she can't go back. Most people this deep into rescue have a vet or two they know and useso, what is t
Re: [Felvtalk] opinions on strange situation(kitty to adopt)
Imo this kitty needs your help. I did rescue for 13 years and have never heard of a kitty masturbating...? is he neutered? She might be embarrassed to have a cat in this condition belonging to a relative (this is my suspicion). As a rescuer friend of mine says when she is trying to help someone who is not being reasonable, "it's not the cat's fault". I would go over there and assess things yourself. Take a carrier. If the carrier won't work, ask about trapping him. Does anyone interact with this poor cat? The "masturbation" might be another bodily fluid...dental issue or infection. It sounds like this kitty needs to see a vet. How would her vet even know if the cat saw someone else. She could say the potential adopter wanted to go to someone else. I sense fear of something behind this refusal to cooperate. Please go get him and let us know what you find out. L "Love animals: God has given them the rudiments of thought and joy untroubled. Do not trouble their joy, don't harass them, don't deprive them of their happiness, don't work against God's intent. Man, do not pride yourself on superiority to animals; they are without sin, and you, with your greatness, defile the earth by your appearance on it, and leave the traces of your foulness after you - alas, it is true of almost every one of us!"~Fyodor Dostoyevsky -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Emeraldkittee Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 8:27 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] opinions on strange situation(kitty to adopt) An acquaintance in rescue put me in touch with a person whose dying relative has a supposed double positive- FeLV and FIV. She can't take him because of the amount of other pets the relative has and will add to her own bunch. We've had a few conversations. I have been told the following: the kitty hasn't seen a vet in 2 yrs, hasn't had a check up in over 4, has always been very thin, gets overstimulated, masturbates on his bed (I mention because to me it's behavioral/lonely/frustrated); has escaped from the room he's in and never attacks the other cats. The kitty is around 5 or 6 and has been in supposed perfect health. There's never been an IFA or Western Blot. I don't feel comfortable bringing a kitty in without some knowledge of their health - I offered to pay for a check up and IFA, and said we could certainly use their vet. She mentioned she no longer goes to that vet and didn't know 'who we could use' but knows some 'dr who can draw blood'. Today she said she doesn't want to make that dr mad (?) and wants her permission to do the IFA . I offered to send a home visit vet, but she 'doesn't know'. It's not a problem with this home, because I am invited there. When I offered to take the kitty to a vet myself she said he doesn't like carriers and might need a shot to be sedated. That wasn't mentioned the first few conversations. Stating the obvious, this is not making sense to me. I know this person is overwhelmed with alot of big life issues, and I can appreciate that. BUT. I am going to meet this kitty to see how I can help/what the situation is, but why would someone resist this chance for care, even if it doesn't lead to an adoption? She did agree it's possible he'd come up negative, but doesn't know about doing this. I did meet another kitty I know I want to adopt but these illogical conversations and this cat have been weighing on my mind and I feel I need to see what's going on. I got the impression there was a problem with the vet she originally used, like she can't go back. Most people this deep into rescue have a vet or two they know and useso, what is the real story? How can I best help... Thanks, I really appreciate any opinions or guidance from all your varied experience. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] opinions on strange situation(kitty to adopt)
An acquaintance in rescue put me in touch with a person whose dying relative has a supposed double positive- FeLV and FIV. She can't take him because of the amount of other pets the relative has and will add to her own bunch. We've had a few conversations. I have been told the following: the kitty hasn't seen a vet in 2 yrs, hasn't had a check up in over 4, has always been very thin, gets overstimulated, masturbates on his bed (I mention because to me it's behavioral/lonely/frustrated); has escaped from the room he's in and never attacks the other cats. The kitty is around 5 or 6 and has been in supposed perfect health. There's never been an IFA or Western Blot. I don't feel comfortable bringing a kitty in without some knowledge of their health - I offered to pay for a check up and IFA, and said we could certainly use their vet. She mentioned she no longer goes to that vet and didn't know 'who we could use' but knows some 'dr who can draw blood'. Today she said she doesn't want to make that dr mad (?) and wants her permission to do the IFA . I offered to send a home visit vet, but she 'doesn't know'. It's not a problem with this home, because I am invited there. When I offered to take the kitty to a vet myself she said he doesn't like carriers and might need a shot to be sedated. That wasn't mentioned the first few conversations. Stating the obvious, this is not making sense to me. I know this person is overwhelmed with alot of big life issues, and I can appreciate that. BUT. I am going to meet this kitty to see how I can help/what the situation is, but why would someone resist this chance for care, even if it doesn't lead to an adoption? She did agree it's possible he'd come up negative, but doesn't know about doing this. I did meet another kitty I know I want to adopt but these illogical conversations and this cat have been weighing on my mind and I feel I need to see what's going on. I got the impression there was a problem with the vet she originally used, like she can't go back. Most people this deep into rescue have a vet or two they know and useso, what is the real story? How can I best help... Thanks, I really appreciate any opinions or guidance from all your varied experience. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
