Hi, I am 79 and a couple of mos. ago I took in a couple of 9mo. old
FeLV+ cats. I feel they may outlive me. I now have 7 and have made
arrangements that when I pass on that my cats will be taked care of for
the rest of their lives.
Del,
Go to the fabric store and pick up a nice, patterned or solid color pc. of low pyle fleece to throw over the bedspread/comforter. Its a bit heavier than the sheet and initiates instand nap-attackes, so they never quite get a chance to make a real mess of it. (Fleece is perfectb/c its
I buy remnants of fleece and have them in many
baskets around the house for kitties to sleep on ... unfortunately my Noah loves
the fleece and drags it around in his mouth and it is his "woman" so to speak
... He was neutered early but has never lost the urge, for ten years he has done
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I buy remnants of fleece and have them in many baskets around the house for kitties to sleep on ... unfortunately my Noah loves the fleece and drags it around in his mouth and it is his "woman" so to speak ... He was neutered early but has
Hi Kyle,
How did you do with giving Brissle her shots?
I'm sorry if I sounded harsh about your vet. I didn't mean to imply that
he's not a good vet, or that you should drop him all together, I just
know how frustrating it can be trying to get the best care possible,
(especially since no one
I think there are none of them (the vets) perfect, just some are way more
imperfect then others...
Gloria
At 11:13 AM 3/14/2005, you wrote:
Hi Kyle,
How did you do with giving Brissle her shots?
I'm sorry if I sounded harsh about your vet. I didn't mean to imply that
he's not a good vet, or
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I
agree with Nina.
I
think it'sconflicting and difficult enough to make a decision to euthanize
when an animal is terminally ill and suffering---one is torn between desperately
not wanting the animal in our care to suffer any more, and making this momentous
and irreversible
Ok, I'm going to play devil's advocate:
I have been active in the animal rescue field for most of my life. I have walked into alleyways in crack neighborhoods, by myself, to feed ferals and do rescues. I have spent more money than any "sane" person should on strays, and even have driven across
Thank you to all those who inquired about Zevon's condition, here's a
brief update on what's going on at my house:
Zevon: Zevon continues to insist that whatever his physical
disabilities are, he will bully his body into submission! He has
improved slightly, but still has some paralysis in
I understand where caring, thoughtful people are coming from when they
advocate euthanasia. No-kill shelters are not always the havens we
would hope them to be. I don't agree with keeping an unadoptable
animal in a cage with little to no human or animal contact, (not to
mention another more
Thanks for the update Nina. Great news about Grace, and I'm sending
hopes that Zevon and Jazz continue to show improvement (however slowly).
I really feel for you re Gypsy. I'm praying hard that with all the love
and attention you're giving her, not to mention the special diet and all
the hard
Good Luck Nina...sending healing vibes to all ;-))
CherieNina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thank you to all those who inquired about Zevon's condition, here's a brief update on what's going on at my house:Zevon: Zevon continues to insist that whatever his physical disabilities are, he will bully his
Thank you Kerry. Most of the time Gypsy seems to be happy and content.
I hope (if it comes to that), I'll know when it's time to help her
cross. As long as she continues to enjoy life, I'll fight with all my
strength and resources to help her get better. On the days when my
strength and
Thanks for asking, yes Sugar is growing she is now 2.7lbs and Sprinkles seems to have gotten over her supposed "rignworm" incident...if you ask me I think she got hurt and the gal I got her from decided telling me she had ringworm might be better, the gal said her son has "accidently" killed two
Thank you darlin',
How's the growing menagerie at your house doing? Have the newbies
settled in?
Nina
Cherie A Gabbert wrote:
Good Luck Nina...sending healing vibes to all ;-))
Cherie
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Thank you to all those who inquired about Zevon's condition, here's a
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Thanks Tamara.
You've seen and
experienced and risked far, far more than I ever have and I'm humbled (as I
often am, reading the emails from the wonderful brave members of this group).
That's why I wonder if you would mind spelling it out a bit more
There have been animals
Cherie, You are ABSOLUTELY right...I believe as you do that animals are as precious as children, but unfortunately in this society...there exists the "destory if they are inconvienant" rule for bothFor humans, -children: (in the forms of abortion and the juvenial death penalty), the later of
I have to definitely agree with Nina.
We, humans are the most powerful creature
on earth, and can be the most egotistical and arrogant one, too by abusing the
power we have over smaller (physically) creatures. In my mind, our lives are not any more important
than any other creatures on
Ginger sort of stopped eating and have been force feeding
her for the past couple of days I need your prayer and healing vibes
again, you guys.
Also, I got back Gingers blood work all her
organs seem to be fine, but her HCT was 26 (and it was 28 back in October)
I was sad that it did
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I said
it before and I'll say it again, Hideyo: you're an angel. you really are. You're
those kitties' guardian angel. Sending positive vibes that you find Squeekie,
and you find her soon~~Kerry
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Sending positive, healing vibes for Ginger. Hideyo. I hope she begins to
eat again soon.
May be
worth you checking she doesn't have ulcers. That's what Levi had (as well as
anemia)when he stopped eating. Kerry
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Nina,
You've hit the nail on the head! (It's a tough call, but it's an individual call. The advocation of wholesale slaughter is in no way humane or respectful treatment of another species.)...There is no generalized answer...each case must be dealt with on an individual basis.
Thanks for
God bless ya Hideyo...I'll keep you both in my prayers! (Tip: Squeekie might be extremely cautious of closed in spaces and be very hard to trap now. Try, if you can, a small dog crate...pref. black bars...put grass or leaves or debris of some such in the bottom so it smells the same as the area on
Tamara, I also do understand what you are
saying there are just not enough of us who care about ferals
everywhere I go, I see problems, and I am stretched out so thin
physically, and financially. I rescued
all the cats I encountered for the past few years and I have now over
50, but I
Thanks for the tip, Tamara. Actually, I was thinking of a dog trap
that I have, as
you said (and you are right), she is more cautious now
Right now, there is a normal cat trap with
the food but not set (left open with the bungee code) so that she can get used
to eat in there but there
Thank you Tamara,
I know everyone won't agree on this. I've worked with ferals, and I've done spay releases, and I've seen situations that were so bad nothing else could be done
I fed a PACK of nearly 20feral dogs for 2 years, trying to make some progress. These dogs were so wild they would
Call the vet. Its a perscription antihistamine and the side effect is increase of appetite. I don't know if it can be used with FeLv+ kitties, but its worth a shot. The vet will prob. perscribe 1/2 pill 2xs a day..but...it can make some cats restless and increase their incidence of howling in the
I am not going to get too involved in this discussion, but my two cents are, I have to agree with Nina and Kerry. Some places CAN be worse than death for animals or children, do you see us killing children The two groups we (as adults) need to stand up for and care for are children and
Drawing the line and deciding not to get involved is one thing. Drawing the
line and deciding to kill them all is quite another.
In my paid work, I am a lawyer who represents desperately poor women and
children in things like denials of access to emergency shelter, food stamps,
and
I just want to say that I'm sorry I included Tonya's name in this
thread. I know that Tonya is a loving caring fur mom, this just happens
to be one of those subjects that gets my fur up. I don't have the
answers either, I wish I did. I just know that I love my ferals as much
as the cats living
Hideyo,
I think you should try Immuno-regulin for her. Your vet should be able to
get it. also, can you start the process to get VO? If you start the process
to get it yourself, I can send you one of my remaining two boxes of it (good
for one 5 day dose, or more if she weighs under 11
You look inside their mouth. I think Kerry was referring to ulcers inside the
mouth, not the stomach.
Michelle
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Do they have to do ultrasound to check ulcers?? Or do you feel it from
outside?
Ciproheptidine is an antihistimine with a side effect of making cats and dogs
hungry, so vets prescribe it as an appetite stimulant. You need to get it
from a vet.
Michelle
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No, I haven't - what is cypro? Do I get it at a
Thank you, Nina. I know I can be too paranoid, too.
There this stray boy kitty that I feed in the area, got really nasty
abuses all infected and flies were all over the scar - so me and my
neighbor (a different neighbor) caught in using a fish net - and put him
in the cage so that we can care for
Oh yeah, I wanted to apply for the process - how do I do that?
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Hideyo,
My gosh Hideyo, you are a savior, your neighborhood is so lucky to have you.
CherieHideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thank you, Nina. I know I can be too paranoid, too.There this stray boy kitty that I feed in the area, got really nastyabuses all infected and flies were all over the scar -
Michelle,
You can also put in another application for VO yourself. I've gotten
two okays for Grace and one for Jazz. I have one sitting at my vet's
office waiting until I have enough money to order it.
Nina
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Hideyo,
I think you should try Immuno-regulin for her. Your
Hi All,
Here is the service for Monday March 14th. My deepest sympathies
to those who have lost a furkid. Prayers, and healing, positive
thoughts for those with sick fukids.
I am having major problems still with my email so please let me know if
I have forgotten any one.
FeLV Candle Light
Hideyo,
I, for one, don't think it's silly at all that you feel you can read
their thoughts! But that's another topic!
I have learned some cat body language dealing with my colony. Next
time you make eye contact with her, double blink at her slowly a couple
of times, she will probably return
I sent a reply the last time you asked with the info that your vet needs to
send to the FDA. It was the second time I reposted it from the archives. It
was about a week ago. Please look for it there, because otherwise I have to get
on our other computer and look from it in my files and cut
Sorry, I found it - I must have overlooked it - thank you, Michelle!
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I sent
Tonya,
What you went through with those dogs is heart wrenching! How awful for
you and the dogs. I should have known there was a story like that
behind your comments.
My opinion is sometimes trapping and euthanizing is the best we can
do for them. And these are domestic animals, whether
Nina,
Sending you prayers for your kids. That's good news about Grace and Zevon.
Hopefully Jazz and Gypsy will come around. Keep your head up!
Thanks for all your help!
-Kyle
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Hi Kyle,
Thanks for the prayers!
I called Michelle Rose at my vet's (Veterinary Medical and Surgical
Group). I wasn't able to talk to Michelle personally, but I did leave
her a message. Hopefully she'll be getting back to me some time today,
I let you know what she says.
Nina
Melbeach wrote:
...you have to be at the spring hearings in order to vote on this
advisory issues. Anyone can sent in comments (please see below). I
would suggest saying you will definitely not visit or vacation in
Wisconsin and neither will your friends if this issue passes. Tourism
is a major part of the
Tonya,
Absolutely, there are some circumstances where our hands are tied. I
misunderstood your post apparently. PETA and other so-called humane
organizations promote the killing of feral colonies even when there is a
caregiver in place that takes the responsibility for TNR and feeding. I
Bonnie,
I'm sorry that we can't all vote on this issue, thanks for sending the
link for us to put in our two cents worth though!
Nina
BONNIE J KALMBACH wrote:
...you have to be at the spring hearings in order to vote on this
advisory issues. Anyone can sent in comments (please see below). I
Kyle and anyone else who is interested in starting the process of
obtaining Feline Interferon, (Virbagen Omega)...
I just spoke to Michelle Rose at VMSG to make sure she was in contact
with your vet. She said that she did get a message from him, but she
actually took a day off, and when she
Going over the DNR's advisory questions, there is another one which
would lower the age requirement from 12 to ten years old(!) for some
hunting licenses. This would surely include small game licenses, for
which kids would be eligible and if cats are classified as small game,
we could have
Rebecca,
I am forwarding this to a leukemia group where you can get more information.
tonya"Rebecca Morris (FLG)" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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I took in two cats a week ago Saturday. This ladys mom could no longer care for the cats, and the lady
I think there has been discusion of this...but isn't it
posible for the FeLV vaccine which these kitties had,
to cause a false pos for some short period of time...Can this be the
case here ???
Tad
catatonya wrote:
Rebecca,
I am forwarding this to a leukemia group where you can get
Kristi,
How are the kittens doing? Has their diarrhea cleared up?
Nina
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Thank you for that info, I think today we start the litter boxes and some strained turkey or chicken. They are eating up to 30cc a meal...and sleeping through the night- Thank God. Anyway they have
The kittens are doing great diarrhea, is all cleared up as soon as I changed
them to the powdered KMR. They are all using the litter box on their own now
too. Now I'm trying to get them to eat out of a dish- very trying on the
patience they're about 31/2 4 weeks old, and they eat it off my
How long have your felv+cats been on interferon? What's your dosing
procedure? My cat has been on it about 1.5 yrs. and 7 days on/7 days off
method. I heard about antibodies.
I'm glad to hear it's a blocked tear duct, (that sounds like the better
of the two, at least). When my guys have watery eyes, I use a saline
soaked cotton ball to clean and sooth them. They really seem to
appreciate it, although I don't know if it will help in Matilda's case.
I'm thrilled
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