Dear Chris,
I am so sorry you lost Mylo. It takes time to grieve and allow yourself the
full feelings of missing him. At some point you will know in your heart and
remember the joyous times you had. But now, just let yourself miss him. The
other feelings will come in time.
Take
She is a precious baby, so cute! I am sorry about this Kelley. What is her
prognosis? I am unfamiliar with heart disease in cats. I will keep her in my
prayers.
Gina
Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Please pray or send healing thoughts to Missy, or whatever your personal
Hi Kelley,
Sending healing thoughts for your little Missy.
Do you know what grade her heart murmur is?
My Moxie has a grade one murmur and is
noticeably smaller than her siblings. If it is still
there at her one year we plan to have it
checked out by a cardiologist. How old is
Missy? I
So through yesterday Lucy continued to purr and eat and occasionally slowly
walk to the litterbox or another room. She is very fatigued, probably from her
anemia. Hideyo had said that giving the feline interferon every day seemed
to help Dharma feel better, so I gave Lucy the feline
coincidence or not, she also seems to be eating less since I gave her the
dex. Perhaps because of the congestion.
Michelle
the thing that's so crazy-making here is that there are SO many
possible things going on, and so many medications involved, that it's
really impossible to know what's causing what. in every
creature--human included--some will have idiosyncratic responses to
medications, no matter how many experts
no, I have been very attentive to her temperature since this whole thing
started a few weeks ago, and she definitely has not been getting fevers in the
past week at least except after getting dex. I specifically waited days between
dex shots to monitor this, and she did not get feverish at
Michelle - I think steroid destroys all her immune systems and she may
not have enough of her own to fight against URIs - so watch out.. Dharma
and Naomi both got sicker as their URIs (green discharge) came back form
their nose and couldn't get rid of it and that was towards the end of
their
Paolo, I called the doctor and he called me back (what a nice guy he
is)
Anyway, he never heard of the side effects but he cannot rule out
completely. He said that lots of vets do use this for all different type
of cancers.
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Hi Michelle,
I tend to lean toward pred. and FOI as her best
chance, but I have no experience with Dex., so
I really don't know. Is the Dex a daily shot? Can
you try it one or two more times and see if she
continues to get that burst of energy from it, and
if the fevers/congestion get worse
Keep in mind too -- dexamethasone is ten times stronger than prednisone...
elizabeth
On 2/2/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
no, I have been very attentive to her temperature since this whole thing
started a few weeks ago, and she definitely has not been getting fevers in
the
i'm thinking that she might have been getting low-grade fevers for
YEARS before any of this happened--i do, every night, tho i never
realized it until i actually got sick with something and started
monitoring it! at other times of the day, my body temperature drops
down to 96 or lower. i
but it's not that low grade. It's not that I know she is feverish because I
take her temp. Hear ears get hot and she gets really out of it and does not
want to be touched or to move. I would have noticed this for sure.
In a message dated 2/2/2007 10:40:58 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
I agree with what Hideyo says. I am no doctor - but I do know for a fact
that long-term use of steroids will render the body unable to fight off
infection and basically destroys the adrenal system. Long term use of
steroids leaves the body unable to produce its own cortisol.
On 2/2/07,
Michelle,
It sounds like a very hard decision to make. I have
no idea between the two which sounds better. When I
have a choice to make and have no idea which way to
lean, I pray. Praying never fails me. I hope it will
help you too. Continued prayers going out for little
Lucy and for you as
She's a beautiful catthinking of you and Missy.
From: Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: OT - Please pray for Missy
Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2007 19:59:10 -0800
Kelley,
Did the vet mention anything about the possibility of
Completely bloodwork just came in. He's negative for everything. Vet's
best guess now is a very tough URI. He'll stay on the Clindamycin and
steroidal eye ointment for a total of 10 days and of course we will be
watching him closely after that for any signs of recurrence.
Thank you for all the
YEA!!!
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Completely bloodwork just came in. He's negative for everything. Vet's
best guess now is a very tough URI. He'll stay on the Clindamycin and
steroidal eye ointment for a total of 10 days and of course we will be
watching him closely after that for any signs of
that's great! he's actually negative on the corona titer and on the toxo
titer??
if so, I would recommend IV shots of immuno-regulin. That really helped my
cats get over tough URI's, and has worked for other cats on the list as well.
Michelle
In a message dated 2/2/2007 11:21:18 A.M.
Can this be repaired?
:)
Wendy
--- Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Please pray or send healing thoughts to Missy, or
whatever your personal
beliefs allow.
She went to the cardiologist today. Here is her
diagnosis:
Diagnosis: Congenital heart disease. Missy has a
large atrial
Thank you.
From: Gina WN [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Mylo's Passing
Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 02:03:18 -0800 (PST)
Dear Chris,
I am so sorry you lost Mylo. It takes time to grieve and allow yourself
the full feelings
W O N D E R F U L!
elizabeth
On 2/2/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
that's great! he's actually negative on the corona titer and on the toxo
titer??
Yes, her summary was: negative corona, negative toxo, negative fiv,
negative felv. She is faxing the complete results to
What a love Kelley!!! She's precious!!! I do hope
you can find some way to help her condition.
:)
Wendy
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I don't think I am going to do the dex again. She has been eating about 3-4
jars of baby food a day, and ate about 3 yesterday. But she has hardly eaten
since I gave her the dex. I think today she has eaten at most 1/5 of a jar
of baby food and a couple of licks of a/d, and it is almost
Michelle,
How much dex are you giving Lucy? Could you try to lower the dose
significantly and see if it still helps?
Nina
So what would you do? Switch to dex or keep her on the pred? I have
never had a doubt before about this when I thought my cats were in
their last stages that it was
Chris,
I am so sorry to hear that you had to let Mylo go. I
haven't been able to keep up with my email like I
would like so I know this encouragement is coming
late. How are you doing today? I hope ok. I know
that little Mylo is smiling down on you, thanking you
for the wonderful care you
.5 cc. It is not giving her so much energy-- she is still just laying in
the cat tree, and not eating. If I am going to give her less dex, I think I
should just go back to the pred.
I am really scared that she has now stopped eating for good. she ate 3 jars
of baby food yesterday before
Don't panic, Michelle. Since she began to eat again after the last dex shot
just assume she will start again after this one. Give her a hug from me.
Will continue prayers.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:.5 cc. It is not giving her so much energy--
she is still just laying in the cat
Good news about Bandit, YIPEE!
I did not see that episode. That is a terrible policy! I wonder when the
episode will repeat. They may get another email from me as well.
Sally Davis
On 2/2/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yeah!
Patti her clan
PS - OT, but did anyone
Michelle,
Reading this email just broke my heart. I can hear in
your words how very much you love Lucy. I wish I
could just hug both of you and do something for you
both. No matter how strong my faith is, I always have
questions. Everyone doesn't get to experience the
natural cycle of life.
The last dex shot actually made her eat MORE the next morning, despite the
congestion, not less.
Since I wrote she ate a little more baby food. But, again, no more than 1/5
of a jar and probably not even that much.
In a message dated 2/2/2007 12:13:03 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
Well, darn. I misunderstood. It is so frustrating when we so want them to
eat and they just won't.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:The last dex shot actually made her eat MORE
the next morning, despite the congestion, not less.
Since I wrote she ate a little more baby food. But,
If anyone has an email address to write to for Animal Planet, I'll send
them the dozen or so inspiring FeLV testimonials I collected from you
wonderful people last year to persuade the new PAWS shelter to include
an FeLV room. (The shelter in question is slated to open July this year
by the way.
The fact that she's eating at all is a very good sign, esp if she is
congested. I know you don't want to waste a minute that could be spent
helping her, but it looks like you don't have any choice than to take a
deep breath and wait and see. Try to take some quiet time, out of panic
mode,
Congratulations!!! You go girl! Is it getting any
easier? I am so proud of you!
:)
Wendy
Get your own web address.
Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business.
Michelle - you are doing everything possible you can to help her
---don't question it - Lucy knows it --- she knows your bond are much
stronger than anything you can see on physical level... I gave
accemmanan to JoJo and he stopped eating since then, I question the same
thing naturally - but
I can't remember for sure why.. but Dr. Ishida and Dr. Addie recommended
the use of dex as a single dose and use predisolone instead if you are
giving on going . .must be something to do with the fact that it may not
impair any liver functions.. with FIP, their liver eventually get
damaged and
Michelle - when you say pred - do you mean predisone or predisolone? I
would recommend that you use predisolone
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hideyo
Yamamoto
Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 11:05 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
The Animal Planet web site offers viewers an opportunity to send an
e-mail. Here is the url:
http://extweb.discovery.com/viewerrelations
Leah
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MacKenzie,
Kerry N.
Sent: Friday, February
By the way; Rude Ranch Animal Rescue, from whom I adopted my felv+ Maine
Coon a month ago, has a room just for these positive cats.
Leah
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wolf, Leah R.
Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 1:19 PM
To:
um, folks, LIFE is ALWAYS FATAL! are we supposed to euthanize every thing
that is born because it's going to die at some point?
On 2/2/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yeah!
Patti her clan
PS - OT, but did anyone see Animal Planet (Animal Cops - Houston) last
Thanks Leah!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wolf, Leah R.
Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 12:19 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: Bandit is NEGATIVE--Animal Planet
The Animal Planet web site offers viewers an opportunity
That's great. It's such a rare thing. Bless you for adopting an FeLV
baby.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wolf, Leah R.
Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 12:21 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: Bandit is NEGATIVE--Animal
That's a great line---I'm going to steal/borrow it, with your
permission.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of TenHouseCats
Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 12:25 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Bandit is NEGATIVE
um, folks,
people would say that when they'd bring their FeLV or FIV cats to the
sanctuary--we love him/her, but we can't keep him/her, he/she is going to
die!
we'd point out that there are NO guarantees. that their $2500 showcat is
just as likely to throw a blood clot tomorrow as a FeLV is to have its
prednisolone.
In a message dated 2/2/2007 1:11:44 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Michelle - when you say pred - do you mean predisone or predisolone? I
would recommend that you use predisolone
I'm so glad that you haven't missed out on Abbott
Costello! lol. I don't know why but I am feeling
relief that Rompi's surgery was cancelled. I hope
that you get some very thorough information and are
able to make the best decisions for Rompi.
Good luck searching Paolo!
:)
Wendy
--- Paolo
I don't know why but I am feeling relief that Rompi's surgery was
cancelled.
It is exactly the same for me... but I feel that Rompi's magic could
break down at any time. I feel he is (we are) walking on eggs.
I need to get in touch with an EMINENT American oncologist to have some
opinion and
thanks! i actually went almost an hour today without thinking about a ciggy
:0) i know it will get easier - and it's already much easier than the first
two weeks. i appreciate the support - it really helps.
On 2/2/07, wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Congratulations!!! You go girl! Is it
Wasn't sure what was meant earlier---now I know---congratulations!!
That's fantastic Elizabeth! Well done you. You're on your way to lovely
clean lungs!! Kerry M
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of elizabeth
trent
Sent: Friday, February 02,
Paolo,
You could call the Animal Cancer Center in Dallas,
Texas. The number is (214) 437-9499. They will
probably only be open another 2 and a half hours
today. They might be open tomorrow also, but not
sure. I have heard very good things about this
clinic. I hope you find an oncologist who
i heard the most interesting thing on the news the
other day. they have found that in patients who have
had a stroke and had something damaged called the
'insula', in their brain, that when they came out of
the stroke, they no longer craved cigarettes. so now
they think that the insula may
thanks! :0) i think i am more surprised than anyone! LOL
On 2/2/07, MacKenzie, Kerry N. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Wasn't sure what was meant earlier---now I know---congratulations!!
That's fantastic Elizabeth! Well done you. You're on your way to lovely
clean lungs!! Kerry M
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I saw that in the paper the other day! Isn't that interestsing?!?
On 2/2/07, wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
i heard the most interesting thing on the news the
other day. they have found that in patients who have
had a stroke and had something damaged called the
'insula', in their brain,
hmmm. what a choice--shall i start taking chantix, or wait to have
a stroke? (sorry, it's been that sort of month. already.)
On 2/2/07, elizabeth trent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I saw that in the paper the other day! Isn't that interestsing?!?
On 2/2/07, wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
i
That is interesting!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy
Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 2:43 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: OT: new study on insula, strokes, and smoking-VERY interesting!
i heard the most interesting
LOL i'm thinking the chantix is a little easier ;-)
my uncle says that having a heart attack cured him.
On 2/2/07, TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
hmmm. what a choice--shall i start taking chantix, or wait to have
a stroke? (sorry, it's been that sort of month. already.)
On
Okay Kelley, I just heard back from my ex. He was looking for all the
paperwork, (her test results, diagnosis etc), but couldn't find it
because he's in the middle of trying to sell his house and everything is
packed away. This is what he told me:
Miss Kitty had a problem where her heart
Thank you SO much Leah!!! Now, if I can get these eyes to work, I'll send
that e-mail. (Was going to do it earlier but the eyes gave out.. It's
he!!! only having one eye... So I should have wrote the eye gave out
Anyone notice I couldn't even spell euthanize And, that's not
My dear Michelle-
I am sorry that Lucy is still not eating - I don't know if this will
make you feel a bit better or not.. my Ginger who is Felk positive have
gone through a period that she did not eat anything at all over 3
months.. but the weird thing was, she did not act like she was sick or
I can't do that. Once they have been on steroids long-term, you can't just
stop it. It causes adrenal and circulatory problems and would make her feel way
worse.
In a message dated 2/2/2007 6:59:31 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
If I were you, I might just
Hi Gina,
Her prognosis to live at least one more year is pretty good with
conscientious medicating. Her prognosis to live more than 3 more years is
pretty bad.
You don't want to become familiar with heart disease in cats. It seems to
follow me like FELV does yall. I am pretty convinced that
Hi Beth,
She has a grade 3/4 murmur.
She's 6.8 pounds. I was *very* pleased with her weight gain.
Kelley
On 2/2/07, Gary Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Kelley,
Sending healing thoughts for your little Missy.
Do you know what grade her heart murmur is?
My Moxie has a grade one murmur
I will do that Monday, Nina, thank you.
Kelley
On 2/2/07, Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Okay Kelley, I just heard back from my ex. He was looking for all the
paperwork, (her test results, diagnosis etc), but couldn't find it because
he's in the middle of trying to sell his house and
Oh.. I meant - to tape it down..
_
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 5:08 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Lucy--what to do?
I can't do that. Once they have been on steroids long-term,
Thank you Kelley, I sure hope the medication helps
Missy. She's about a half a pound lighter than Moxie.
Please keep us posted on how she's doing...
Best wishes,
Beth
Hi Beth,
She has a grade 3/4 murmur.
She's 6.8 pounds. I was *very* pleased with her weight gain.
Kelley
You can always gradually taper off. What does your vet say? How is Lucy
doing this evening?
elizabeth
On 2/2/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I can't do that. Once they have been on steroids long-term, you can't
just stop it. It causes adrenal and circulatory problems and
oh my, my vet. Well, my vet probably really wishes I would stop asking him
these questions every day. My vet thinks there is no way to figure out what is
happening, and that I should just decide on something and he will give me the
meds. He is very accommodating, but not very decisive. He
It sounds like you have such a bond with her. She knows you are taking care
of her...mine always seem to know. Please kiss sweet Lucy for me. I'm
glad she is able to eat some.
elizabeth
On 2/2/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
oh my, my vet. Well, my vet probably really
I just don't know Michelle... I wish I could help, but I just don't know! I
will send her positive energy and peaceful thoughts, and hope for her
remaining time to be happy times!
Phaewryn
http://ucat.us
Adopt a New England FIV+ cat:
http://ucat.us/FIVadopt.html
Special Needs Cat Links (and
Yay! Good for him!
Phaewryn
http://ucat.us
Adopt a New England FIV+ cat:
http://ucat.us/FIVadopt.html
Special Needs Cat Links (and feline info library):
http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
Declawing Creates SUFFERING, Please don't declaw!
http://www.pawproject.com/kona.html
Just curious, but what about Depo/Dex mixed or some OTHER form of steroid
(maybe something you have not tried yet)? Or would that flare her IBD so bad
it would make her miserable? And what about lasix for the fluid
accumulation?
Phaewryn
http://ucat.us
Adopt a New England FIV+ cat:
Have you tried getting her to eat some lunch meat type stuff? Moogie ate
that even when she was very near the end... boiled ham was her favorite.
Phaewryn
http://ucat.us
Adopt a New England FIV+ cat:
http://ucat.us/FIVadopt.html
Special Needs Cat Links (and feline info library):
I'm sure you've read a ton of material on this, Michelle - I've only just
begun to learn about this because of your experience. I found this in the
Merck Veterinary Manual (you've probably already seen it)...(looked it up -
1kg = 2.20462262lb)
Treatment is directed toward controlling the
I used that line or a variation of that quote to my vet on my last visit. I
can't remember what he said, but I think he felt I was being pessimistic. He
has a good sense of humor though.
Sally
On 2/2/07, TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
um, folks, LIFE is ALWAYS FATAL! are we supposed
LIFE is always fatal technically! People get caught up in quantity. Even
short lives are worth living! Every day is a gift, and tomorrow.. well, it's
not to be taken for granted.
Shame on animal cops for that negative attitude!
Phaewryn
http://ucat.us
Adopt a New England FIV+ cat:
does rude animal ranch have a website?
Phaewryn
http://ucat.us
Adopt a New England FIV+ cat:
http://ucat.us/FIVadopt.html
Special Needs Cat Links (and feline info library):
http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
Declawing Creates SUFFERING, Please don't declaw!
Hi Kerry
Here is the link to the Houston SPCA featured on Animal planet.
http://www.spcahouston.org/SPCAHouston/Meet_the_HSPCA_Animal_Cruelty_Team.asp?SnID=2
Animal Planet's home page.
http://animal.discovery.com/
You should be able to contact through these links.
Sally
On 2/2/07,
I've been praying for Lucy and visualizing her healthy. I've also
been looking over various bits of FIP info on the web. I've come
across references to pentoxifylline (Trental made by Aventis
Pharmaceuticals). I was unable to find a reference to Trental in
recent digests, so I'm wondering
Thank you. I have heard of it, and have read up on it. It seems to help
sometimes with FIP. However, it's a blood thinner, and she is really anemic
right
now, so I would be afraid to try it. Also, I think all the meds I have given
her have made her not want to eat much, so I don't think I
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