Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary

2009-10-06 Thread Debbie Harrison
-0400 > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary > > { COL } -- part of his job in this world was to teach you that hard, > hard lesson. you only fail him if you forget the lesson and don't share > it with others. > > yur pal, MC > >

Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary

2009-10-06 Thread MaryChristine
{ COL } -- part of his job in this world was to teach you that hard, hard lesson. you only fail him if you forget the lesson and don't share it with others. yur pal, MC -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Pu

Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary

2009-10-06 Thread Debbie Harrison
a perfect, beautiful boyand he deserved better Debbie (COL) "Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle" Philo > From: twelvehousec...@gmail.com > Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 16:47:15 -0400 > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary

Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary

2009-10-05 Thread MaryChristine
the problem is that way too many still DO! but you know that. -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) __

Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary

2009-10-05 Thread Debbie Harrison
ukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary > > amazing how things change when you learn the facts, isn't it? sometimes it > amazes me to realize that even less than ten years ago i actually thought > that a positive outdoor kitty breathing through a screen door at the > hous

Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary

2009-10-05 Thread MaryChristine
amazing how things change when you learn the facts, isn't it? sometimes it amazes me to realize that even less than ten years ago i actually thought that a positive outdoor kitty breathing through a screen door at the housecats could infect them. On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 2:40 PM, Gloria B. Lane

Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary

2009-10-05 Thread Gloria B. Lane
rote: From: Stray Cat Alliance Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Friday, October 2, 2009, 11:12 AM Here here! I wish we would no longer test at all. If a cat is sick, they are sick. Treat that. It just seems like cats always get the short end o

Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary

2009-10-05 Thread CATHERINE DIDONNA
THANKYOU.CATHY --- On Fri, 10/2/09, Stray Cat Alliance wrote: From: Stray Cat Alliance Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Friday, October 2, 2009, 11:12 AM Here here! I wish we would no  longer test at all. If a cat is sick, they are

Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary

2009-10-02 Thread Stray Cat Alliance
Here here! I wish we would no longer test at all. If a cat is sick, they are sick. Treat that. It just seems like cats always get the short end of every stick - while I love dogs - they are much higher up the totem pole than cats, who are way down at the bottom. Why don't we declaw dogs

Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary

2009-10-01 Thread MaryChristine
i've seen a number of studies that give rates of infection in the wild, and in housecat populations--i just don't remember where right now. in NO case have any of them ever been above 10%, and i think it's actually under 5% for both. when they say, "the two most prevalent fatal diseases in cats,"

Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary

2009-09-30 Thread Chris
: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaryChristine Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 4:01 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Cc: rchestert...@verizon.net Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary i think that the stress issue is far more important, especi

Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary

2009-09-30 Thread MaryChristine
i think that the stress issue is far more important, especially for ferals. translocating to a sanctuary is not an issue with housecats, and while living with large numbers of cats CAN be very stressful, when the cats are somewhat socialized to people, it's quite possible to provide them with a com

Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary

2009-09-30 Thread Stray Cat Alliance
I disagree on a few points. The article on the Castaway Critters site is not that old - perhaps 3 or 4 years at most. I have spoken via email with Dr. Levy on several occasions - in fact, in late 2008, regarding this very issue. Some recent info from Dr. Levy and link to her info - also whi

Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary

2009-09-30 Thread MaryChristine
sorry, but that's not what happens in the real world. for years, we've been trying to get research done in sanctuaries that actually have populations to test, but as there's no money in it for phamaceutical companies, it hasn't happened. in real life, FIVs throw off FeLV just as the 70% of non-FIV

Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary

2009-09-30 Thread Stray Cat Alliance
ood idea. We must do what is morally and ethically right, rather than what is easy. > From: twelvehousec...@gmail.com > Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 13:30:06 -0400 > To: rchestert...@verizon.net > CC: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary > > fyi,

Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary

2009-09-28 Thread Stray Cat Alliance
; From: furrygi...@gmail.com > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > CC: rchestert...@verizon.net > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary > > I just had a young adult male test FIV+, weak FELV+, and about 45 days later > FELV negative, confirmed on IFA. > > On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 1

Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary

2009-09-28 Thread Heather
I just had a young adult male test FIV+, weak FELV+, and about 45 days later FELV negative, confirmed on IFA. On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 1:30 PM, MaryChristine wrote: > fyi, there is no evidence that FIVs are any less able to throw off FeLV > than > are other cats--in fact, FIVs tend to be the healt

Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary

2009-09-27 Thread MaryChristine
fyi, there is no evidence that FIVs are any less able to throw off FeLV than are other cats--in fact, FIVs tend to be the healthiest populations in all sanctuary settings. while it might not be the optimum arrangement, until there are more places who are willing to take positive of both sorts in,

Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary

2009-08-31 Thread Stray Cat Alliance
Maybe it is not such a bad idea if checking out a sanctuary to ask how long the cats typically live. As well as how they are funded and what happens to the cats should something happen to them, etc. _ Windows Live: Make it easier

Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary

2009-08-31 Thread Sharyl
: > From: dlg...@windstream.net > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Cc: "Alice Hanson" > Date: Sunday, August 30, 2009, 5:02 PM > do they ask for donations when you > send a cat there or do they leave that up to you?  i > was t

Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary

2009-08-30 Thread MaryChristine
> Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 1:40:36 PM > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary > > yes, a sanctuary in every ton would be ideal, but so would a world where > people did not hurt one another and animals just for the fun of it. until > that tim, we have to do the best we can for ourselve

Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary

2009-08-30 Thread dlgegg
nt: Monday, June 01, 2009 7:53 PM > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary > > > > I had the opportunity to visit the C&W Rustic Hollow Shelter in IA. > Looking for a forever home for my cats when I die. They have a excellent set > up with multiple houses/buildings/b

Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary

2009-08-30 Thread dlgegg
if the cats have plenty of room to avoid a cat they don't like or that doesn't like them, shelter, food and someone to scratch their chin, rub their back, play with them a bit and lots of windows to look out, maybe even an outside play room, i think they would think that ideal. my babies do. t

Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary

2009-08-30 Thread Susan Hoffman
ubject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary yes, a sanctuary in every ton would be ideal, but so would a world where people did not hurt one another and animals just for the fun of it.  until that tim, we have to do the best we can for ourselves and our animals.  try to live our lives as an example to othe

Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary

2009-08-30 Thread dlgegg
yes, a sanctuary in every ton would be ideal, but so would a world where people did not hurt one another and animals just for the fun of it. until that tim, we have to do the best we can for ourselves and our animals. try to live our lives as an example to othersand hope they catch on. till t

Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary

2009-06-01 Thread dlgegg
- > From: Sharyl<mailto:cline...@yahoo.com> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> > Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 7:53 PM > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary > > > > I had the opportunity to visit the C&W Rustic

Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary

2009-06-01 Thread Alice Hanson
kemia.org> Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 7:53 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary I had the opportunity to visit the C&W Rustic Hollow Shelter in IA. Looking for a forever home for my cats when I die. They have a excellent set up with multiple houses/buildings/barns. Each buildi

Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary

2009-06-01 Thread dlgegg
er.org/ > > Sharyl > > --- On Mon, 6/1/09, MaryChristine wrote: > > > From: MaryChristine > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Date: Monday, June 1, 2009, 4:45 PM > > of course if depends on quality of > > lif

Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary

2009-06-01 Thread Sharyl
Christine wrote: > From: MaryChristine > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Monday, June 1, 2009, 4:45 PM > of course if depends on quality of > life, but you also have to have a > realistic definition of what that means. i'

Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary

2009-06-01 Thread CATHERINE DIDONNA
the ASPCA sends cats there. --- On Mon, 6/1/09, Stray Cat Alliance wrote: From: Stray Cat Alliance Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Monday, June 1, 2009, 4:30 PM Wouldn't it depend on quality of life? Any "sanctuary" should be che

Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary

2009-06-01 Thread Kelley Saveika
I'd like to add - you can't have ANY quality of life if you are DEAD. See "The Fallacy of "Fates Worse than Death" by Nathan Winograd http://www.nathanwinograd.com/?p=1076 On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 3:45 PM, MaryChristine wrote: > of course if depends on quality of life, but you also have to have a

Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary

2009-06-01 Thread MaryChristine
of course if depends on quality of life, but you also have to have a realistic definition of what that means. i've found that many people tend to judge quality of life in human terms, and in light of what they would like to be able to provide to a housecat--and that is NOT necessarily what a sanctu

Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary

2009-06-01 Thread Kelley Saveika
ons. > > > > > > > > > Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 15:09:33 -0400 > > From: twelvehousec...@gmail.com > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary > > > > just to cause more trouble, as i'm so good at doing, no

Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary

2009-06-01 Thread Stray Cat Alliance
Wouldn't it depend on quality of life? Any "sanctuary" should be checked out prior with a personal visit and some questions. > Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 15:09:33 -0400 > From: twelvehousec...@gmail.com > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk

Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary

2009-06-01 Thread Laurieskatz
Agree. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaryChristine Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 2:10 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary just to cause more trouble, as i'm so

Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary

2009-06-01 Thread MaryChristine
just to cause more trouble, as i'm so good at doing, not separating is NOT necessarily the worse thing, if death is the only alternative. FIVs are generally the healthiest populations at any sanctuary, and they throw off FeLV at the same or possibly a higher rate than any other cat--double-positive

Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary

2009-06-01 Thread CATHERINE DIDONNA
Harrisburg Pa.717 469-2540 Lynn Stitt. Cathy . --- On Sat, 5/30/09, MaryChristine wrote: From: MaryChristine Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Saturday, May 30, 2009, 9:26 PM http://www.thebestlittlecathouseinpa.com/ On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 9:30 AM

Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary

2009-06-01 Thread Stray Cat Alliance
live a lot longer. > Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 21:26:35 -0400 > From: twelvehousec...@gmail.com > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary > > http://www.thebestlittlecathouseinpa.com/ > > On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 9:30 AM, Lorrie wrote: &g

Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary

2009-05-30 Thread MaryChristine
http://www.thebestlittlecathouseinpa.com/ On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 9:30 AM, Lorrie wrote: > Where is The Best Little Cat House in PA? > > > On 05-26, CATHERINE DIDONNA wrote: Where are you located? Where is > > the Sanctuary? The best little cat house in Penn. will take him for > > free when ther

Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary

2009-05-29 Thread Lorrie
Where is The Best Little Cat House in PA? On 05-26, CATHERINE DIDONNA wrote: Where are you located? Where is > the Sanctuary? The best little cat house in Penn. will take him for > free when there is room. Regards. C > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvta