Re: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long.
I have never had a cat that liked a covered box or scented litter. Mine also use the 18 gallon or larger Rubbermaid (or knock off) boxes to give them more kicking/scratching room. Obsidian may have the same preferences. I wish him all the best luck in finding a new home--a forever home this time. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Kelley Saveika To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 9:58 AM Subject: Re: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long. I don't think it has been a terrible experience. We have learned something about Obsidian - he dislikes covered litter boxes and would probably be better placed with a kitty friend. It was a week and a half, so should be no more traumatic than being boarded. The adopter has learned something about herself - and yes, she is a young woman. She did have an elderly ferret previously who died after a long illness. I've never had a ferret - perhaps they are less messy - I certainly think they are smellier, cute though they are. On 3/25/07, TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i would MUCH rather have an adopter who recognized her limitations, early on, and returned the cat that to NOT do so, and have the cat stuck there, unloved and resented. i gather this is a young woman, and this was her first critter on her own--next time she'll have a much better idea of what's involved, and be better able to decide whether she's cut out to be a cat parent. at least obsidian will be returned to a safe place, and not tossed out onto the street or into a kill shelter. MC On 3/25/07, Susan Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Condition of her house? Definitely get the cat back. Hope she never has a child, or a husband or live-in boyfriend, or a houseguest who stays more than two days. (If I was concerned about the condition of my house, I wouldn't let myself live in it. Just rope everything off and look at it from afar.) Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think he is coming back. She emailed me a few days ago and told me she didn't think she was cut out to be a good kitty owner. She's not home enough and is too concerned about the condition of her house. So she will bring him back to me and he and I will try again:) On 3/25/07, catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: maybe give her a t-shirt with your scent on it, or a towel or something with your other cats' scents? t Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nina, he can sleep whereever he wants. She says he gets in bed with her for 20-30 minutes, then gets tired of that and gets out of bed and starts pacing and crying and does that until 5 am.. It almost broke my heart. She says she can't live without sleep forever, and I see her point. He apparently stops crying about 5 am, and she gets to sleep for 2 hours. That's not a good schedule for a working person. She works half a day on Friday and took a nap after getting home. He allowed her to sleep then. She says this weekend she has been sleeping from 5 am to 11 am, but she cant' do that during the week. Everyone isn't us, Nina. I wish they were, it would be so much easier. I can't keep all these cats either - if I do I can't do rescue. Though I am frustrated and aggravated right now and not wanting to do rescue at the moment. On 3/18/07, Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kelley, Just by your brief explanation it sounds like this guy is confused and scared. Since he's affectionate during the day, and you hinted that she's not giving him attention at night, I'm guessing he's calling out for reassurance. Do you remember me telling the list about Sophie Matilda? I had her confined to a bathroom because she's cat aggressive. She cried day and night, (but it was worse at night), and would only settle down when I was with her. This went on for what seemed like years, but was really only days. I got very little sleep, (sleeping on a bathroom floor is not so great for my aching back either). The scariest and most upsetting part for me was wondering if she would ever stop. She actually cried herself hoarse. Well, she did settle down and start to feel safe and at home. Give us more details. Is this kitty free
Re: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long.
don't forget, too, that too many people buy the cats are neat and tidy public-relations campaign line.. they may be neat and tidy in their own personal hygiene, but can wreak total havoc on the human's surroundings. as most of us have learned to our chagrin and amazement. (who knew a cat could get UP that high, with no climbing points) On 3/25/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: oh yeah... for sure! Too concerned for the condition of her house sounds really bad. Perhaps you would like to consider using my home visit form and doing pre-adoptive home visits? I have found that I can completely eliminate those types of adopters by a good home visit with lots of questions (it takes about 45 minutes to complete it when done right). I'd be happy to send you a copy of the form if you want it. Phaewryn http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Special Needs Cat Resources -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
Re: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long.
Thanks, but I'm trying to get away from home visits altogether, although I generally end up doing one informally anyway - I took Sapphire over to his new mom's house for a trial visit to make sure he didn't freak out around the kid or the (cat-friendly) dogs. I'm practicing, as well as I can with the restrictions that are placed upon me by the local animal control, what are known as open adoptions. More info about open adoptions can be found here: http://www.aspca.org/site/PageServer?pagename=ih_pro_adoption http://network.bestfriends.org/Blogs/Detail.aspx?b=860g=3042316787ce4a6e8eb13f7e1c31758d http://petsmartcharitiesblog.org/webinars/?q=node/85 Thanks so much for the offer though! On 3/25/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: oh yeah... for sure! Too concerned for the condition of her house sounds really bad. Perhaps you would like to consider using my home visit form and doing pre-adoptive home visits? I have found that I can completely eliminate those types of adopters by a good home visit with lots of questions (it takes about 45 minutes to complete it when done right). I'd be happy to send you a copy of the form if you want it. Phaewryn http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Special Needs Cat Resources -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help Joey! http://rescuties.chipin.com/joey-autoimmune-hemolytic-anemia
Re: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long.
Humm.. well, that's one option. Good luck (I will pray for your cats). I'm sure you will have much higher adoption numbers than I do. Phaewryn http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Special Needs Cat Resources
Re: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long.
No need to pray for them, they assure me they are much happier this way than they would be being killed. You know I always liked this list because it was a place to share freely without being attacked.I value that and I'd hope it would continue. On 3/25/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Humm.. well, that's one option. Good luck (I will pray for your cats). I'm sure you will have much higher adoption numbers than I do. Phaewryn http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Special Needs Cat Resources -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help Joey! http://rescuties.chipin.com/joey-autoimmune-hemolytic-anemia
Re: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long.
Hi Kelley, I was surprised at how forgiving and positive you sounded when this adoption didn't work out. I just read your link to the Boulder Humane Society's open adoption program and now I understand. What a great approach! I know of many pet-worthy people in our area who have really been turned off by one of the local shelters. Wonder if it would do any good if I forwarded this link to them? H... All the best, Beth Blue, Scooter, Dash, Moxie, Will Feral, and Max the parrot On 3/25/07, Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, but I'm trying to get away from home visits altogether, although I generally end up doing one informally anyway - I took Sapphire over to his new mom's house for a trial visit to make sure he didn't freak out around the kid or the (cat-friendly) dogs. I'm practicing, as well as I can with the restrictions that are placed upon me by the local animal control, what are known as open adoptions. More info about open adoptions can be found here: http://www.aspca.org/site/PageServer?pagename=ih_pro_adoption http://network.bestfriends.org/Blogs/Detail.aspx?b=860g=3042316787ce4a6e8eb13f7e1c31758d http://petsmartcharitiesblog.org/webinars/?q=node/85 Thanks so much for the offer though! On 3/25/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: oh yeah... for sure! Too concerned for the condition of her house sounds really bad. Perhaps you would like to consider using my home visit form and doing pre-adoptive home visits? I have found that I can completely eliminate those types of adopters by a good home visit with lots of questions (it takes about 45 minutes to complete it when done right). I'd be happy to send you a copy of the form if you want it. Phaewryn http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Special Needs Cat Resources -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help Joey! http://rescuties.chipin.com/joey-autoimmune-hemolytic-anemia
Re: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long.
Now that I have read more of the topics... Whitey did this his first week here... when I had him quarantined in the bathroom. As soon as he was able to come into our room at night, he was happy. Of course, since then, we've discovered he's a toe attacker, so he's now been booted out at night... it hurts to wake up with bloody toes in the middle of the night! I think the nighttime howling is a fairly common thing for cats that are totally in a new place, it is their way of comforting themselves, I suppose. I realize that sleep is essential, but I'm still of the opinion that it's not nice to want to surrender the cat just because of the lack of sleep. God forbid this person ever became a parent of a HUMAN baby, LOL! She'd kill herself, LOL! Phaewryn http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Special Needs Cat Resources
Re: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long.
yeah, that's me--keen powers of the obvious seriously tho, i've always suspected that crying behavior in a new environment is sort of like a sonar-thing, too the cat is trying to locate themselves in time and space, and listening to hear where he is by how his own voice bounces back defining their new boundaries, maybe? and it makes sense in terms of older cats who get lost in their own houses and cry and cry, too. (well, it makes sense to me.) On 3/23/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: earplugs.. LOLOLOL! MC, you are so smart... and good at pointing out the obvious when no-one else sees it, LOL! I missed you while I was gone! Phaewryn http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Special Needs Cat Resources -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
Re: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long.
I must somehow record Tigger at bath time, you've never heard a noise like he makes, LOL! Sonar indeed! Personally, I think it's kitty voo-doo, he's casting some terrible spell that will render me harmless and save him from the terrors of the sink! Phaewryn http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Special Needs Cat Resources
Re: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long.
well, it hasn't worked yet, so he'll need to try a lot harder! fleaing On 3/23/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I must somehow record Tigger at bath time, you've never heard a noise like he makes, LOL! Sonar indeed! Personally, I think it's kitty voo-doo, he's casting some terrible spell that will render me harmless and save him from the terrors of the sink! Phaewryn http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Special Needs Cat Resources -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
Re: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long.
He's suffering from separation anxiety. Even tho his person is there...when she sleeps...she leaves him. Its not uncommon for animals who have suffered a tramatic event (house burgler...fireabandonment) to go through this..(sometimes just moving from one home to another can do it). Has she tried the felaway (or the generic brand of it)? Spray it once a day (at night) around the house to give a sense of well being. She could also try a Catnip video...put in the tv and push play...kitty might be destracted. Worse case senerio...ask vet for a mild sediative until cat gets used to new surroundings. Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know. I Have called her this morning and left a message. On 3/18/07, Pam Norman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But does he lie in bed with her while the light is on she is still basically up? When does he start pacing relative to her turning off the light going to sleep, or trying to? Pam Kelley Saveika wrote: He lies with her in bed for about 20-30 minutes, then gets bored and starts pacing and crying until 5 am, when apparently he gets tired of crying and stops. I odn'tk now about the ligths. On 3/18/07, *Pam Norman* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's why I was asking. I would go further than nightlights try leaving a light on in the bathroom perhaps. And I'm still curious as to what he is doing where when she turns out the light for the night. Does the crying start then or later? Pam Leslie Lawther wrote: *Lighting is a good question... We have pathway lighting (night lights that angle down to the ground) all through the house for the cats. Even though they are nocturnal, they still do no have the best eyesight. Maybe she could try some nightlights for him? * *Leslie =^..^=* On 3/18/07, *Pam Norman* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kelley, Are there any other pets in the household? Also what do they (the woman the kitty) do just before she turns out the light? Is he with her on the bed? Napping? Dozing? What happens when she turns out the light? When she turns off her light, at that point are ALL the lights in the house off? Pam Kelley Saveika wrote: Nina, he can sleep whereever he wants. She says he gets in bed with her for 20-30 minutes, then gets tired of that and gets out of bed and starts pacing and crying and does that until 5 am.. It almost broke my heart. She says she can't live without sleep forever, and I see her point. He apparently stops crying about 5 am, and she gets to sleep for 2 hours. That's not a good schedule for a working person. She works half a day on Friday and took a nap after getting home. He allowed her to sleep then. She says this weekend she has been sleeping from 5 am to 11 am, but she cant' do that during the week. Everyone isn't us, Nina. I wish they were, it would be so much easier. I can't keep all these cats either - if I do I can't do rescue. Though I am frustrated and aggravated right now and not wanting to do rescue at the moment. On 3/18/07, *Nina* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kelley, Just by your brief explanation it sounds like this guy is confused and scared. Since he's affectionate during the day, and you hinted that she's not giving him attention at night, I'm guessing he's calling out for reassurance. Do you remember me telling the list about Sophie Matilda? I had her confined to a bathroom because she's cat aggressive. She cried day and night, (but it was worse at night), and would only settle down when I was with her. This went on for what seemed like years, but was really only days. I got very little sleep, (sleeping on a bathroom floor is not so great for my aching back either). The scariest and most upsetting part for me was wondering if she would ever stop. She
Re: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long.
She is going to buy Feliway. I also found a local source of Rescue Remedy. She is not willing to medicate him. I guess I can understand that (well, not really, I have all kinds of cats on all kinds of meds) but it isn't a physical problem, and I guess some people do not believe in medicating cats to solve emotional problems. On 3/19/07, tamara stickler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He's suffering from separation anxiety. Even tho his person is there...when she sleeps...she leaves him. Its not uncommon for animals who have suffered a tramatic event (house burgler...fireabandonment) to go through this..(sometimes just moving from one home to another can do it). Has she tried the felaway (or the generic brand of it)? Spray it once a day (at night) around the house to give a sense of well being. She could also try a Catnip video...put in the tv and push play...kitty might be destracted. Worse case senerio...ask vet for a mild sediative until cat gets used to new surroundings. *Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote: I don't know. I Have called her this morning and left a message. On 3/18/07, Pam Norman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But does he lie in bed with her while the light is on she is still basically up? When does he start pacing relative to her turning off the light going to sleep, or trying to? Pam Kelley Saveika wrote: He lies with her in bed for about 20-30 minutes, then gets bored and starts pacing and crying until 5 am, when apparently he gets tired of crying and stops. I odn'tk now about the ligths. On 3/18/07, *Pam Norman* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's why I was asking. I would go further than nightlights try leaving a light on in the bathroom perhaps. And I'm still curious as to what he is doing where when she turns out the light for the night. Does the crying start then or later? Pam Leslie Lawther wrote: *Lighting is a good question... We have pathway lighting (night lights that angle down to the ground) all through the house for the cats. Even though they are nocturnal, they still do no have the best eyesight. Maybe she could try some nightlights for him? * *Leslie =^..^=* On 3/18/07, *Pam Norman* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kelley, Are there any other pets in the household? Also what do they (the woman the kitty) do just before she turns out the light? Is he with her on the bed? Napping? Dozing? What happens when she turns out the light? When she turns off her light, at that point are ALL the lights in the house off? Pam Kelley Saveika wrote: Nina, he can sleep whereever he wants. She says he gets in bed with her for 20-30 minutes, then gets tired of that and gets out of bed and starts pacing and crying and does that until 5 am.. It almost broke my heart. She says she can't live without sleep forever, and I see her point. He apparently stops crying about 5 am, and she gets to sleep for 2 hours. That's not a good schedule for a working person. She works half a day on Friday and took a nap after getting home. He allowed her to sleep then. She says this weekend she has been sleeping from 5 am to 11 am, but she cant' do that during the week. Everyone isn't us, Nina. I wish they were, it would be so much easier. I can't keep all these cats either - if I do I can't do rescue. Though I am frustrated and aggravated right now and not wanting to do rescue at the moment. On 3/18/07, *Nina* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kelley, Just by your brief explanation it sounds like this guy is confused and scared. Since he's affectionate during the day, and you hinted that she's not giving him attention at night, I'm guessing he's calling out for reassurance. Do you remember me telling the list about Sophie Matilda? I had her confined to a bathroom because she's cat aggressive. She cried day and night, (but
Re: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long.
She has not called me back. I have no idea what that means. Maybe he is fine now. Maybe it was so bad she had to call in sick to work and she'll be on my doorstep when I get home. On 3/19/07, Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: She is going to buy Feliway. I also found a local source of Rescue Remedy. She is not willing to medicate him. I guess I can understand that (well, not really, I have all kinds of cats on all kinds of meds) but it isn't a physical problem, and I guess some people do not believe in medicating cats to solve emotional problems. On 3/19/07, tamara stickler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He's suffering from separation anxiety. Even tho his person is there...when she sleeps...she leaves him. Its not uncommon for animals who have suffered a tramatic event (house burgler...fireabandonment) to go through this..(sometimes just moving from one home to another can do it). Has she tried the felaway (or the generic brand of it)? Spray it once a day (at night) around the house to give a sense of well being. She could also try a Catnip video...put in the tv and push play...kitty might be destracted. Worse case senerio...ask vet for a mild sediative until cat gets used to new surroundings. *Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote: I don't know. I Have called her this morning and left a message. On 3/18/07, Pam Norman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But does he lie in bed with her while the light is on she is still basically up? When does he start pacing relative to her turning off the light going to sleep, or trying to? Pam Kelley Saveika wrote: He lies with her in bed for about 20-30 minutes, then gets bored and starts pacing and crying until 5 am, when apparently he gets tired of crying and stops. I odn'tk now about the ligths. On 3/18/07, *Pam Norman* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's why I was asking. I would go further than nightlights try leaving a light on in the bathroom perhaps. And I'm still curious as to what he is doing where when she turns out the light for the night. Does the crying start then or later? Pam Leslie Lawther wrote: *Lighting is a good question... We have pathway lighting (night lights that angle down to the ground) all through the house for the cats. Even though they are nocturnal, they still do no have the best eyesight. Maybe she could try some nightlights for him? * *Leslie =^..^=* On 3/18/07, *Pam Norman* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kelley, Are there any other pets in the household? Also what do they (the woman the kitty) do just before she turns out the light? Is he with her on the bed? Napping? Dozing? What happens when she turns out the light? When she turns off her light, at that point are ALL the lights in the house off? Pam Kelley Saveika wrote: Nina, he can sleep whereever he wants. She says he gets in bed with her for 20-30 minutes, then gets tired of that and gets out of bed and starts pacing and crying and does that until 5 am.. It almost broke my heart. She says she can't live without sleep forever, and I see her point. He apparently stops crying about 5 am, and she gets to sleep for 2 hours. That's not a good schedule for a working person. She works half a day on Friday and took a nap after getting home. He allowed her to sleep then. She says this weekend she has been sleeping from 5 am to 11 am, but she cant' do that during the week. Everyone isn't us, Nina. I wish they were, it would be so much easier. I can't keep all these cats either - if I do I can't do rescue. Though I am frustrated and aggravated right now and not wanting to do rescue at the moment. On 3/18/07, *Nina* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kelley, Just by your brief explanation it sounds like this guy is confused and scared. Since he's affectionate during the
Re: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long.
I finally called her back again. She says he did better last night. She is going to give him until the end of the week and see how he does. On 3/19/07, Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: She has not called me back. I have no idea what that means. Maybe he is fine now. Maybe it was so bad she had to call in sick to work and she'll be on my doorstep when I get home. On 3/19/07, Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: She is going to buy Feliway. I also found a local source of Rescue Remedy. She is not willing to medicate him. I guess I can understand that (well, not really, I have all kinds of cats on all kinds of meds) but it isn't a physical problem, and I guess some people do not believe in medicating cats to solve emotional problems. On 3/19/07, tamara stickler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He's suffering from separation anxiety. Even tho his person is there...when she sleeps...she leaves him. Its not uncommon for animals who have suffered a tramatic event (house burgler...fireabandonment) to go through this..(sometimes just moving from one home to another can do it). Has she tried the felaway (or the generic brand of it)? Spray it once a day (at night) around the house to give a sense of well being. She could also try a Catnip video...put in the tv and push play...kitty might be destracted. Worse case senerio...ask vet for a mild sediative until cat gets used to new surroundings. *Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote: I don't know. I Have called her this morning and left a message. On 3/18/07, Pam Norman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But does he lie in bed with her while the light is on she is still basically up? When does he start pacing relative to her turning off the light going to sleep, or trying to? Pam Kelley Saveika wrote: He lies with her in bed for about 20-30 minutes, then gets bored and starts pacing and crying until 5 am, when apparently he gets tired of crying and stops. I odn'tk now about the ligths. On 3/18/07, *Pam Norman* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's why I was asking. I would go further than nightlights try leaving a light on in the bathroom perhaps. And I'm still curious as to what he is doing where when she turns out the light for the night. Does the crying start then or later? Pam Leslie Lawther wrote: *Lighting is a good question... We have pathway lighting (night lights that angle down to the ground) all through the house for the cats. Even though they are nocturnal, they still do no have the best eyesight. Maybe she could try some nightlights for him? * *Leslie =^..^=* On 3/18/07, *Pam Norman* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kelley, Are there any other pets in the household? Also what do they (the woman the kitty) do just before she turns out the light? Is he with her on the bed? Napping? Dozing? What happens when she turns out the light? When she turns off her light, at that point are ALL the lights in the house off? Pam Kelley Saveika wrote: Nina, he can sleep whereever he wants. She says he gets in bed with her for 20-30 minutes, then gets tired of that and gets out of bed and starts pacing and crying and does that until 5 am.. It almost broke my heart. She says she can't live without sleep forever, and I see her point. He apparently stops crying about 5 am, and she gets to sleep for 2 hours. That's not a good schedule for a working person. She works half a day on Friday and took a nap after getting home. He allowed her to sleep then. She says this weekend she has been sleeping from 5 am to 11 am, but she cant' do that during the week. Everyone isn't us, Nina. I wish they were, it would be so much easier. I can't keep all these cats either - if I do I can't do rescue. Though I am frustrated and aggravated right now and not wanting to do rescue at the moment. On 3/18/07, *Nina* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto: [EMAIL
Re: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long.
I think she is likely to give him the time she needs as long as she can sleep at least a little. And I am grumpy as heck when I get no sleep. I stayed with some friends of mine years and years and years ago who had a newborn. I think that is when I decided I didn't want children. Oh my LORD On 3/19/07, TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i think maybe someone needs to point out that two to three WEEKS is not an abnormal adjustment period for ANY cat, in ANY home -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892 -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20
Re: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long.
if she has to, for her own health and safety, she can always get earplugs and shut him out of her room til he gets the message. not the best option, perhaps, but sleep-deprivation isn't a good way to begin a relationship, either. On 3/19/07, Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think she is likely to give him the time she needs as long as she can sleep at least a little. And I am grumpy as heck when I get no sleep. I stayed with some friends of mine years and years and years ago who had a newborn. I think that is when I decided I didn't want children. Oh my LORD On 3/19/07, TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i think maybe someone needs to point out that two to three WEEKS is not an abnormal adjustment period for ANY cat, in ANY home -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892 -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
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I would still want her to leave a light on somewhere near her bedroom. Bathroom maybe, or even another bedroom. Pam TenHouseCats wrote: if she has to, for her own health and safety, she can always get earplugs and shut him out of her room til he gets the message. not the best option, perhaps, but sleep-deprivation isn't a good way to begin a relationship, either. On 3/19/07, *Kelley Saveika* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think she is likely to give him the time she needs as long as she can sleep at least a little. And I am grumpy as heck when I get no sleep. I stayed with some friends of mine years and years and years ago who had a newborn. I think that is when I decided I didn't want children. Oh my LORD On 3/19/07, *TenHouseCats* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i think maybe someone needs to point out that two to three WEEKS is not an abnormal adjustment period for ANY cat, in ANY home -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892 -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
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Try Feliway spray and Rescue Remedy. The cat is very puzzled as to where he is and why. No one explained this to him. He may be used to staying up at night and have his days and nights confused. If this is so a vet may be able to give the adopter some sort of tranquiller to help the cat get turned around. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Kelley Saveika To: felvtalk Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2007 1:14 PM Subject: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long. Hi all, I adopted out a cat on Thursday night. The adopter called me today and said he has been crying all night every night and she hasn't been able to sleep at all. He is fine during the day, very affectionate, likes to give her kisses, but he will not let her sleep. I need suggestions, or else this adopter will return this cat. As he's a black cat, he is not going to have too many options. She is not petting him when he is crying. He is eating and using the litterbox. I don't know how to get this adopter past this. She's willing to try things for a few more days, but I don't think much longer than that. Kelley -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20
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Kelley, Just by your brief explanation it sounds like this guy is confused and scared. Since he's affectionate during the day, and you hinted that she's not giving him attention at night, I'm guessing he's calling out for reassurance. Do you remember me telling the list about Sophie Matilda? I had her confined to a bathroom because she's cat aggressive. She cried day and night, (but it was worse at night), and would only settle down when I was with her. This went on for what seemed like years, but was really only days. I got very little sleep, (sleeping on a bathroom floor is not so great for my aching back either). The scariest and most upsetting part for me was wondering if she would ever stop. She actually cried herself hoarse. Well, she did settle down and start to feel safe and at home. Give us more details. Is this kitty free to sleep with his new mom or is she locking him out of her room at night? See if you can get the adopter to give him more time. You know, set a time limit to see if once he acclimates to his new surroundings and knows that he's home for good he'll stop crying. If she'll give him just one more week, he may be just fine. What's one week without sleep compared to the rest of their lives together? Poor little guy, he deserves to have his human give him this consideration, I hope that she does. Nina Kelley Saveika wrote: Hi all, I adopted out a cat on Thursday night. The adopter called me today and said he has been crying all night every night and she hasn't been able to sleep at all. He is fine during the day, very affectionate, likes to give her kisses, but he will not let her sleep. I need suggestions, or else this adopter will return this cat. As he's a black cat, he is not going to have too many options. She is not petting him when he is crying. He is eating and using the litterbox. I don't know how to get this adopter past this. She's willing to try things for a few more days, but I don't think much longer than that. Kelley -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20
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I told her to try these and she said she will. On 3/18/07, Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try Feliway spray and Rescue Remedy. The cat is very puzzled as to where he is and why. No one explained this to him. He may be used to staying up at night and have his days and nights confused. If this is so a vet may be able to give the adopter some sort of tranquiller to help the cat get turned around. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - *From:* Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* felvtalk Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Sent:* Sunday, March 18, 2007 1:14 PM *Subject:* OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long. Hi all, I adopted out a cat on Thursday night. The adopter called me today and said he has been crying all night every night and she hasn't been able to sleep at all. He is fine during the day, very affectionate, likes to give her kisses, but he will not let her sleep. I need suggestions, or else this adopter will return this cat. As he's a black cat, he is not going to have too many options. She is not petting him when he is crying. He is eating and using the litterbox. I don't know how to get this adopter past this. She's willing to try things for a few more days, but I don't think much longer than that. Kelley -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20
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Nina, he can sleep whereever he wants. She says he gets in bed with her for 20-30 minutes, then gets tired of that and gets out of bed and starts pacing and crying and does that until 5 am.. It almost broke my heart. She says she can't live without sleep forever, and I see her point. He apparently stops crying about 5 am, and she gets to sleep for 2 hours. That's not a good schedule for a working person. She works half a day on Friday and took a nap after getting home. He allowed her to sleep then. She says this weekend she has been sleeping from 5 am to 11 am, but she cant' do that during the week. Everyone isn't us, Nina. I wish they were, it would be so much easier. I can't keep all these cats either - if I do I can't do rescue. Though I am frustrated and aggravated right now and not wanting to do rescue at the moment. On 3/18/07, Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kelley, Just by your brief explanation it sounds like this guy is confused and scared. Since he's affectionate during the day, and you hinted that she's not giving him attention at night, I'm guessing he's calling out for reassurance. Do you remember me telling the list about Sophie Matilda? I had her confined to a bathroom because she's cat aggressive. She cried day and night, (but it was worse at night), and would only settle down when I was with her. This went on for what seemed like years, but was really only days. I got very little sleep, (sleeping on a bathroom floor is not so great for my aching back either). The scariest and most upsetting part for me was wondering if she would ever stop. She actually cried herself hoarse. Well, she did settle down and start to feel safe and at home. Give us more details. Is this kitty free to sleep with his new mom or is she locking him out of her room at night? See if you can get the adopter to give him more time. You know, set a time limit to see if once he acclimates to his new surroundings and knows that he's home for good he'll stop crying. If she'll give him just one more week, he may be just fine. What's one week without sleep compared to the rest of their lives together? Poor little guy, he deserves to have his human give him this consideration, I hope that she does. Nina Kelley Saveika wrote: Hi all, I adopted out a cat on Thursday night. The adopter called me today and said he has been crying all night every night and she hasn't been able to sleep at all. He is fine during the day, very affectionate, likes to give her kisses, but he will not let her sleep. I need suggestions, or else this adopter will return this cat. As he's a black cat, he is not going to have too many options. She is not petting him when he is crying. He is eating and using the litterbox. I don't know how to get this adopter past this. She's willing to try things for a few more days, but I don't think much longer than that. Kelley -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20
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i, of course, say he's lovely after leaving kelley's menagerie there's no one to PLAY with in the middle of the night at his new house, so of course he wants to wake mommy up! On 3/18/07, Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nina, he can sleep whereever he wants. She says he gets in bed with her for 20-30 minutes, then gets tired of that and gets out of bed and starts pacing and crying and does that until 5 am.. It almost broke my heart. She says she can't live without sleep forever, and I see her point. He apparently stops crying about 5 am, and she gets to sleep for 2 hours. That's not a good schedule for a working person. She works half a day on Friday and took a nap after getting home. He allowed her to sleep then. She says this weekend she has been sleeping from 5 am to 11 am, but she cant' do that during the week. Everyone isn't us, Nina. I wish they were, it would be so much easier. I can't keep all these cats either - if I do I can't do rescue. Though I am frustrated and aggravated right now and not wanting to do rescue at the moment. On 3/18/07, Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kelley, Just by your brief explanation it sounds like this guy is confused and scared. Since he's affectionate during the day, and you hinted that she's not giving him attention at night, I'm guessing he's calling out for reassurance. Do you remember me telling the list about Sophie Matilda? I had her confined to a bathroom because she's cat aggressive. She cried day and night, (but it was worse at night), and would only settle down when I was with her. This went on for what seemed like years, but was really only days. I got very little sleep, (sleeping on a bathroom floor is not so great for my aching back either). The scariest and most upsetting part for me was wondering if she would ever stop. She actually cried herself hoarse. Well, she did settle down and start to feel safe and at home. Give us more details. Is this kitty free to sleep with his new mom or is she locking him out of her room at night? See if you can get the adopter to give him more time. You know, set a time limit to see if once he acclimates to his new surroundings and knows that he's home for good he'll stop crying. If she'll give him just one more week, he may be just fine. What's one week without sleep compared to the rest of their lives together? Poor little guy, he deserves to have his human give him this consideration, I hope that she does. Nina Kelley Saveika wrote: Hi all, I adopted out a cat on Thursday night. The adopter called me today and said he has been crying all night every night and she hasn't been able to sleep at all. He is fine during the day, very affectionate, likes to give her kisses, but he will not let her sleep. I need suggestions, or else this adopter will return this cat. As he's a black cat, he is not going to have too many options. She is not petting him when he is crying. He is eating and using the litterbox. I don't know how to get this adopter past this. She's willing to try things for a few more days, but I don't think much longer than that. Kelley -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
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Some in our group use Elavil ear cream - to relax a stressed kitty. Also of course, Rescue Remedy, as someone mentioned. Gloria On Mar 18, 2007, at 1:23 PM, Marylyn wrote: Try Feliway spray and Rescue Remedy. The cat is very puzzled as to where he is and why. No one explained this to him. He may be used to staying up at night and have his days and nights confused. If this is so a vet may be able to give the adopter some sort of tranquiller to help the cat get turned around. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Kelley Saveika To: felvtalk Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2007 1:14 PM Subject: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long. Hi all, I adopted out a cat on Thursday night. The adopter called me today and said he has been crying all night every night and she hasn't been able to sleep at all. He is fine during the day, very affectionate, likes to give her kisses, but he will not let her sleep. I need suggestions, or else this adopter will return this cat. As he's a black cat, he is not going to have too many options. She is not petting him when he is crying. He is eating and using the litterbox. I don't know how to get this adopter past this. She's willing to try things for a few more days, but I don't think much longer than that. Kelley -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20
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She has tried catnip. She really did try a bunch of different things before calling me. I wish she had called a little sooner. He didn't seem attached to anyone in particular. Sometimes he slept with me. I haven't heard him so I am not sure. She says he is fine and a wonderful cat during the day. He helped her do laundry earlier. On 3/18/07, Susan Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does he like catnip? What sort of treat-foods does he like? The first few days in a new home -- I want adopters to spoil a cat so wel that the cat would be horrified at the thought of coming back to my crowded little house. Did he sleep with anyone in particular at night? Could he be missing someone? Is he crying (unhappy, distrssed) or calling for someone? *Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote: I don't think she is taking the food up at night. I will have to ask. He has a lot of toys and is not showing much interest (something else that worries me). She is trying to play with him before bed to wear him out. It isn't helping. He's only eating canned food apparently. I sent them home with canned and dry felidae, but he's only eating the canned... On 3/18/07, Susan Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe she should try petting him and comforting him, if this seems like a really distressed crying sort of thing. Is there dry food and water down at night, so he knows he isn't going to go hungry? A bedtime snack could help too -- canned food, a little shredded chicken or canned tuna, some kind of treat to settle him for the night. Might be worth wearing him out a little earlier in the evening -- one of those trackball toys or a laser light, throw in some catnip. He needs a little adjustment time, and some spoiling to welcome him to his new home. Maybe a few days, with ear plugs for the adopter? *Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote: Hi all, I adopted out a cat on Thursday night. The adopter called me today and said he has been crying all night every night and she hasn't been able to sleep at all. He is fine during the day, very affectionate, likes to give her kisses, but he will not let her sleep. I need suggestions, or else this adopter will return this cat. As he's a black cat, he is not going to have too many options. She is not petting him when he is crying. He is eating and using the litterbox. I don't know how to get this adopter past this. She's willing to try things for a few more days, but I don't think much longer than that. Kelley -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20
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Hi Kelley, Is this cat neutered? If not, could it have something to do with that? Also, does the cat have the run of the house at night? If so, maybe he needs a smaller space, like just the bedroom with the door closed and with his food and litter box in there until he feels safe, for a few days or so. Maybe a towel from your home that smells familiar will help also. I really hope this works out for him, her, and you. :) Wendy --- Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I adopted out a cat on Thursday night. The adopter called me today and said he has been crying all night every night and she hasn't been able to sleep at all. He is fine during the day, very affectionate, likes to give her kisses, but he will not let her sleep. I need suggestions, or else this adopter will return this cat. As he's a black cat, he is not going to have too many options. She is not petting him when he is crying. He is eating and using the litterbox. I don't know how to get this adopter past this. She's willing to try things for a few more days, but I don't think much longer than that. Kelley -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/features_spam.html
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Have her spray the bed with the Feliway spray. This is a very difficult time. I've been there several times myself. Have her try giving him something special to eat when it is sleeping time. I worked shifts that rotated every 28 days for a while. Ebony Thomas Katt--a 3 + year old feral--learned that when I said goodnight he could jump on the bed, get something special, and was supposed to nap until I got up. It is doable. Getting the patience to do it is the trick. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Kelley Saveika To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2007 5:11 PM Subject: Re: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long. Nina, he can sleep whereever he wants. She says he gets in bed with her for 20-30 minutes, then gets tired of that and gets out of bed and starts pacing and crying and does that until 5 am.. It almost broke my heart. She says she can't live without sleep forever, and I see her point. He apparently stops crying about 5 am, and she gets to sleep for 2 hours. That's not a good schedule for a working person. She works half a day on Friday and took a nap after getting home. He allowed her to sleep then. She says this weekend she has been sleeping from 5 am to 11 am, but she cant' do that during the week. Everyone isn't us, Nina. I wish they were, it would be so much easier. I can't keep all these cats either - if I do I can't do rescue. Though I am frustrated and aggravated right now and not wanting to do rescue at the moment. On 3/18/07, Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kelley, Just by your brief explanation it sounds like this guy is confused and scared. Since he's affectionate during the day, and you hinted that she's not giving him attention at night, I'm guessing he's calling out for reassurance. Do you remember me telling the list about Sophie Matilda? I had her confined to a bathroom because she's cat aggressive. She cried day and night, (but it was worse at night), and would only settle down when I was with her. This went on for what seemed like years, but was really only days. I got very little sleep, (sleeping on a bathroom floor is not so great for my aching back either). The scariest and most upsetting part for me was wondering if she would ever stop. She actually cried herself hoarse. Well, she did settle down and start to feel safe and at home. Give us more details. Is this kitty free to sleep with his new mom or is she locking him out of her room at night? See if you can get the adopter to give him more time. You know, set a time limit to see if once he acclimates to his new surroundings and knows that he's home for good he'll stop crying. If she'll give him just one more week, he may be just fine. What's one week without sleep compared to the rest of their lives together? Poor little guy, he deserves to have his human give him this consideration, I hope that she does. Nina Kelley Saveika wrote: Hi all, I adopted out a cat on Thursday night. The adopter called me today and said he has been crying all night every night and she hasn't been able to sleep at all. He is fine during the day, very affectionate, likes to give her kisses, but he will not let her sleep. I need suggestions, or else this adopter will return this cat. As he's a black cat, he is not going to have too many options. She is not petting him when he is crying. He is eating and using the litterbox. I don't know how to get this adopter past this. She's willing to try things for a few more days, but I don't think much longer than that. Kelley -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20
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That raises another question/idea: Dixie Louise goes on sprees where she hears/sees/smells things outside that drive her nuts and therefore, she drives me nuts. Is there any chance that there are male or female cats outside that hang around? I thought Dixie was being a pain until I detected the odor of cat spray on the outside of the house. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2007 7:02 PM Subject: Re: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long. Hi Kelley, Is this cat neutered? If not, could it have something to do with that? Also, does the cat have the run of the house at night? If so, maybe he needs a smaller space, like just the bedroom with the door closed and with his food and litter box in there until he feels safe, for a few days or so. Maybe a towel from your home that smells familiar will help also. I really hope this works out for him, her, and you. :) Wendy --- Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I adopted out a cat on Thursday night. The adopter called me today and said he has been crying all night every night and she hasn't been able to sleep at all. He is fine during the day, very affectionate, likes to give her kisses, but he will not let her sleep. I need suggestions, or else this adopter will return this cat. As he's a black cat, he is not going to have too many options. She is not petting him when he is crying. He is eating and using the litterbox. I don't know how to get this adopter past this. She's willing to try things for a few more days, but I don't think much longer than that. Kelley -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/features_spam.html
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Kelley, Are there any other pets in the household? Also what do they (the woman the kitty) do just before she turns out the light? Is he with her on the bed? Napping? Dozing? What happens when she turns out the light? When she turns off her light, at that point are ALL the lights in the house off? Pam Kelley Saveika wrote: Nina, he can sleep whereever he wants. She says he gets in bed with her for 20-30 minutes, then gets tired of that and gets out of bed and starts pacing and crying and does that until 5 am.. It almost broke my heart. She says she can't live without sleep forever, and I see her point. He apparently stops crying about 5 am, and she gets to sleep for 2 hours. That's not a good schedule for a working person. She works half a day on Friday and took a nap after getting home. He allowed her to sleep then. She says this weekend she has been sleeping from 5 am to 11 am, but she cant' do that during the week. Everyone isn't us, Nina. I wish they were, it would be so much easier. I can't keep all these cats either - if I do I can't do rescue. Though I am frustrated and aggravated right now and not wanting to do rescue at the moment. On 3/18/07, *Nina* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kelley, Just by your brief explanation it sounds like this guy is confused and scared. Since he's affectionate during the day, and you hinted that she's not giving him attention at night, I'm guessing he's calling out for reassurance. Do you remember me telling the list about Sophie Matilda? I had her confined to a bathroom because she's cat aggressive. She cried day and night, (but it was worse at night), and would only settle down when I was with her. This went on for what seemed like years, but was really only days. I got very little sleep, (sleeping on a bathroom floor is not so great for my aching back either). The scariest and most upsetting part for me was wondering if she would ever stop. She actually cried herself hoarse. Well, she did settle down and start to feel safe and at home. Give us more details. Is this kitty free to sleep with his new mom or is she locking him out of her room at night? See if you can get the adopter to give him more time. You know, set a time limit to see if once he acclimates to his new surroundings and knows that he's home for good he'll stop crying. If she'll give him just one more week, he may be just fine. What's one week without sleep compared to the rest of their lives together? Poor little guy, he deserves to have his human give him this consideration, I hope that she does. Nina Kelley Saveika wrote: Hi all, I adopted out a cat on Thursday night. The adopter called me today and said he has been crying all night every night and she hasn't been able to sleep at all. He is fine during the day, very affectionate, likes to give her kisses, but he will not let her sleep. I need suggestions, or else this adopter will return this cat. As he's a black cat, he is not going to have too many options. She is not petting him when he is crying. He is eating and using the litterbox. I don't know how to get this adopter past this. She's willing to try things for a few more days, but I don't think much longer than that. Kelley -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20
Re: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long.
But does he lie in bed with her while the light is on she is still basically up? When does he start pacing relative to her turning off the light going to sleep, or trying to? Pam Kelley Saveika wrote: He lies with her in bed for about 20-30 minutes, then gets bored and starts pacing and crying until 5 am, when apparently he gets tired of crying and stops. I odn'tk now about the ligths. On 3/18/07, *Pam Norman* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's why I was asking. I would go further than nightlights try leaving a light on in the bathroom perhaps. And I'm still curious as to what he is doing where when she turns out the light for the night. Does the crying start then or later? Pam Leslie Lawther wrote: *Lighting is a good question... We have pathway lighting (night lights that angle down to the ground) all through the house for the cats. Even though they are nocturnal, they still do no have the best eyesight. Maybe she could try some nightlights for him? * *Leslie =^..^=* On 3/18/07, *Pam Norman* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kelley, Are there any other pets in the household? Also what do they (the woman the kitty) do just before she turns out the light? Is he with her on the bed? Napping? Dozing? What happens when she turns out the light? When she turns off her light, at that point are ALL the lights in the house off? Pam Kelley Saveika wrote: Nina, he can sleep whereever he wants. She says he gets in bed with her for 20-30 minutes, then gets tired of that and gets out of bed and starts pacing and crying and does that until 5 am.. It almost broke my heart. She says she can't live without sleep forever, and I see her point. He apparently stops crying about 5 am, and she gets to sleep for 2 hours. That's not a good schedule for a working person. She works half a day on Friday and took a nap after getting home. He allowed her to sleep then. She says this weekend she has been sleeping from 5 am to 11 am, but she cant' do that during the week. Everyone isn't us, Nina. I wish they were, it would be so much easier. I can't keep all these cats either - if I do I can't do rescue. Though I am frustrated and aggravated right now and not wanting to do rescue at the moment. On 3/18/07, *Nina* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kelley, Just by your brief explanation it sounds like this guy is confused and scared. Since he's affectionate during the day, and you hinted that she's not giving him attention at night, I'm guessing he's calling out for reassurance. Do you remember me telling the list about Sophie Matilda? I had her confined to a bathroom because she's cat aggressive. She cried day and night, (but it was worse at night), and would only settle down when I was with her. This went on for what seemed like years, but was really only days. I got very little sleep, (sleeping on a bathroom floor is not so great for my aching back either). The scariest and most upsetting part for me was wondering if she would ever stop. She actually cried herself hoarse. Well, she did settle down and start to feel safe and at home. Give us more details. Is this kitty free to sleep with his new mom or is she locking him out of her room at night? See if you can get the adopter to give him more time. You know, set a time limit to see if once he acclimates to his new surroundings and knows that he's home for good he'll stop crying. If she'll give him just one more week, he may be just fine. What's one week without sleep compared to the rest of their lives together? Poor little guy, he deserves to have his human give him this consideration, I hope that she does. Nina
