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St. Francis
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From: Melissa Lind
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 8:40 AM
Subject: RE: OT - Phelix...and lessons learned.
Elizabeth,
Funny-that's what we call it when the cats sit in the window-they're watching
TV. I
with
their fellow man.
St.
Francis
- Original Message -
From: Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 10:12 PM
Subject: Re: OT - Phelix...and lessons learned.
I tried
.
St. Francis
- Original Message -
From: Beth Noren
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 12:13 AM
Subject: Re: OT - Phelix...and lessons learned.
Hi Marylyn,
Thank you so much for your
.
Francis
- Original Message -
*From:* Beth Noren [EMAIL PROTECTED]
*To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
*Sent:* Sunday, June 10, 2007 12:47 PM
*Subject:* Re: OT - Phelix...and lessons learned.
Hi Tad,
I agree, rescuing a declawed shelter cat is the perfect solution for
those
Hi Beth,
I cook for Fred and I debone all my meat. I've always been told
cooked bones, especially chicken is dangerous for cats to eat. I make
all my food from scratch so don't know anything about what happens when
you cook pre-packaged raw.
--
Belinda
happiness is being owned by
.
St. Francis
- Original Message -
From: Beth Noren
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 10:54 AM
Subject: Re: OT - Phelix...and lessons learned.
Do you know if the raw diets can be cooked, or does that destroy the vitamins
and taurine
and stuff
- Phelix...and lessons learned.
At 09:34 PM 6/9/2007, you wrote:
this is where I will disagree. does it hurt for a few weeks. Yes it does but
a good vet gives good pain medication. Are there long term consequences, That
is debatable, A close friend, fellow rescuer and Feline behaviorist plus RVT
.
St. Francis
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From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Kelly L
To: mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgfelvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 11:59 PM
Subject: Re: OT - Phelix...and lessons learned.
At 09:34 PM 6/9/2007, you wrote:
this is where I will disagree
mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 11:59 PM
Subject: Re: OT - Phelix...and lessons learned.
At 09:34 PM 6/9/2007, you wrote:
this is where I will disagree. does it hurt for a few weeks. Yes
it does but a good vet gives good pain medication. Are there long
-
From: Tad Burnett
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 11:05 AM
Subject: Re: OT - Phelix...and lessons learned.
There was an 18 year old siamese is a county shelter that I was looking at
last night.. Looking through the list of about 30 cats that they had I
Beliefs are very strong on this issue and I understand how volatile it is.
I'm just throwing in my own thoughts. And the thought that perhaps we need
to ask the cats in question what they would prefer when death is a serious
option.
Nathan Winograd says a cat would *beg* you to declaw him as
On 6/10/07, Tad Burnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There was an 18 year old siamese is a county shelter that I was looking at
last night.. Looking through the list of about 30 cats that they had I
noticed
that they also had 2 other siamese as well as all the cats seemed like they
would make great
likewise with their fellow man.
St. Francis
- Original Message -
From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Kelly L
To: mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgfelvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 11:59 PM
Subject: Re: OT - Phelix...and lessons learned.
At 09:34 PM 6/9/2007, you wrote
Hi Phaewryn,
I know that we will probably have to agree to disagree on this, but if I
take your opinion to it's logical conclusion, then all declawed cats that
end up in a shelter should automatically be euthanized to end their
suffering? Like you, I am not a knee-jerk no-kill ever person. Like
`I guess the point is that its a great way to keep the piece...
Nobody can get upset if you tell people you rescued your declawed cat
from a shelter already declawed...
Tad
Kelley Saveika wrote:
On 6/10/07, Tad Burnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There was an 18 year old siamese is a county
Hi Tad,
I agree, rescuing a declawed shelter cat is the perfect solution for those
that
must have a declawed cat. Unfortunately, I haven't had much luck
suggesting this
to people yet, (even when I tell them how much money they can save) as they
all
seem to want itty-bitty kittens. In my case, I
- Original Message -
From: Beth Noren
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 12:47 PM
Subject: Re: OT - Phelix...and lessons learned.
Hi Tad,
I agree, rescuing a declawed shelter cat is the perfect solution for those
that
must have a declawed cat
@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 12:47 PM
Subject: Re: OT - Phelix...and lessons learned.
Hi Tad,
I agree, rescuing a declawed shelter cat is the perfect solution for those
that
must have a declawed cat. Unfortunately, I haven't had much luck
suggesting this
to people yet, (even when I tell
- Original Message -
*From:* Beth Noren [EMAIL PROTECTED]
*To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
*Sent:* Sunday, June 10, 2007 12:47 PM
*Subject:* Re: OT - Phelix...and lessons learned.
Hi Tad,
I agree, rescuing a declawed shelter cat is the perfect solution for those
that
must have a declawed cat
I'm on a never-ending revolving medicated shampoo experiment, if I find one
that truly helps for more than a day or two, I will post it to the group.
The best results so far are with one called Epi-Soothe, by Virbac, he seems
MUCH better for about 2-3 days when I shampoo him with it (letting it
Personally, I will euthanise Mythic if I think he's suffering so much that I
am considering something as drastic as declawing. His allergies ARE
manageable with Dexamethisone injections though, so I do have something I
can resort to when it gets really bad. I would take him to a feline
I found some WONDERFUL upholstery cleaner stuff, in the CAR section, no
less! Gets stains out of anything I've tried so far, it's amazing stuff.
It's by TurtleWax, and it's a big red and yellow aerosol can with a bristle
plastic cap on it. It's called Power Out! Professional strength upholstery
Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 3:16 PM
Subject: Re: OT - Phelix...and lessons learned.
Personally, I will euthanise Mythic if I think he's suffering so much that I
am considering something as drastic as declawing. His allergies ARE manageable
with Dexamethisone injections though, so I do have
It sounds like Phelix and Mythic might have inhalant or contact allergies
and that the allergy tests might be worthwhile for them. Unfortunately, my
vet and I are fairly certain that Scooter's problem IS a food allergy, which
means food trials are the recommended method of diagnoses and
Beth, it's not my never declaw ideal that made me say that, it is my
genuine belief that declawing causes long term physical and psychological
suffering, and I do not think putting a suffering cat through more things to
make it suffer more is a correct course of action. Two wrongs don't make a
At 09:34 PM 6/9/2007, you wrote:
this is where I will disagree. does it hurt for a few weeks. Yes it
does but a good vet gives good pain medication. Are there long term
consequences, That is debatable, A close friend, fellow rescuer and
Feline behaviorist plus RVT has had all 14 of her cats
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of elizabeth trent
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 8:11 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: OT - Phelix...and lessons learned.
It's very dangerous for the flies -- this I do know Haha.
They love their moths too, Melissa :0) The treasured ancient llama
furniture-but really-both sides of the
lounge?!
Melissa
_
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of elizabeth trent
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 8:12 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: OT - Phelix...and lessons learned.
Hey MC...I may
@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: OT - Phelix...and lessons learned.
Yes, but I wish they would also learn where to puke and where not to. I
flipped the cushion over on the lounge yesterday after an unsuccessful
attempt to remove the vomit stain. I hope I didn't make it worse. Then
this morning, out
-
From: Rosenfeldt, Diane
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 11:22 AM
Subject: RE: OT - Phelix...and lessons learned.
Oh, been there! For some insane reason we chose a light-colored carpet, and
at the moment there's a large, several-days-old, 409'ed-but-needs
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
*To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
*Sent:* Thursday, June 07, 2007 11:22 AM
*Subject:* RE: OT - Phelix...and lessons learned.
Oh, been there! For some insane reason we chose a light-colored carpet,
and at the moment there's a large, several-days-old,
409'ed-but-needs-further
:* Rosenfeldt, Diane [EMAIL PROTECTED]
*To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
*Sent:* Thursday, June 07, 2007 11:22 AM
*Subject:* RE: OT - Phelix...and lessons learned.
Oh, been there! For some insane reason we chose a light-colored carpet,
and at the moment there's a large, several-days-old,
409'ed
.
St.
Francis
- Original Message -
*From:* Rosenfeldt, Diane [EMAIL PROTECTED]
*To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
*Sent:* Thursday, June 07, 2007 11:22 AM
*Subject:* RE: OT - Phelix...and lessons learned.
Oh, been
- Phelix...and lessons learned.
Your cats get STUCK to the carpet? Bizarre! I never trim claws here (I'm
morally opposed to the idea) unless there's a medical necessity, and I can
honestly say my cats have NEVER gotten stuck to the carpet. I have
occasionally seen one get stuck on the side of the sofa
you're morally opposed to TRIMMING claws, dear? explain, please.
(thinking that i would long ago have bled to death--not to mention having
had to pay enormous vet bills for ingrown claws)..
On 6/5/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Your cats get STUCK to the carpet? Bizarre! I
Actually I have never had to trim claws either, my guys are pretty
good about using there cardboard scratchy posts, or the wood steps
outside. No in grown nails here :)
--
Belinda
happiness is being owned by cats ...
Be-Mi-Kitties
http://bemikitties.com
Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP
Thank you so much. We are both much better. Phelix's eye looks 110% better
and he's not scratching himself like crazy. The vet says it's his allergies
-- I need to be better about applying his transdermal compounded benedryl.
We have a severe drought here in the south and the air quality is
He's a happy boy right now :0) I picked up a nice pair of toe nail clippers
for the kids today. Getting them to be still with no one to help is going
to be an adventure for all of us!
elizabeth
On 6/5/07, Taylor Scobie Humphrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
OH, POOR PHELIX! And poor you! It's
We have a bit of sibling rivalry here and it can get out of hand from time
to time. Always scares me when the boys play rough. I hope Bandit is doing
better, Melissa. Please give him a kiss for me.
elizabeth
On 6/5/07, Melissa Lind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Elizabeth,
What a cute story
Cassandra, I've been bad about keeping up with the list lately but I know
you've had a lot going on lately. My heart is with you even though I've
been bad about replies.
I hope these new clippers will do the trick. If I get in a pinch, I know my
neighbor will help me. Love and hugs to you and
Still have the scented laundry, eh? It just blows me away - how creative
these guys can be. I just wish I knew something to tell you that would
help! It's so hard to get mad at a cat for being a cat too. Almost makes
me think it might pay to flip the circuit breaker to the dryer and take off
I can relate, Phaewryn. Never thought of the soft paws as a solution -- not
a bad idea. I worry so about those sores -- Phelix has such a bald tummy
and doesn't miss the inside of his back legs either. I just want him to be
comfortablebut I worry when he starts chewing. He's rubbed a few
--
*From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
*Sent:* Tuesday, June 05, 2007 9:31 PM
*To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
*Subject:* Re: OT - Phelix...and lessons learned.
Your cats get STUCK to the carpet? Bizarre! I never trim claws here (I'm
morally opposed
Hey MC...I may be morally opposed after I try it once ;0) Pass the
bandaids...
Half of my furniture is cat furniture. The wonderful thing is they seem to
know where it's ok to sharpen and where it isn't (at least when I'm here
LOL)
elizabeth
On 6/6/07, MaryChristine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Poor Scooter :-/ It's so frustrating when they itch like that -- you just
want them to be comfortable.
We've tried everything trying to figure out the cause of Phelix's allergies
- to no avail.
Thank you for the kind wishes, Beth. Happy, peaceful, itch-free days
to you guys. Please give
Yeah, no kidding. I always have scratches somewhere. I'm always
using Neosporin on some part of my bod! Especially as the triplets
are still growing and getting new ideas about what they can (as much
as possible) and cannot do (we can't?).
Consciousness is Causal
and Physicality is its
OH, POOR PHELIX! And poor you! It's awful to feel guilty so don't
do that!
Consciousness is Causal
and Physicality is its
Manifestation.
On Jun 4, 2007, at 10:03 PM, elizabeth trent wrote:
Phelix was taking care of me today because I home and not feeling
well. He's always by my side
I hope you are both feeling better. I usually don't remember to clip claws
around here until someone scratches me (accidentally) or get's stuck scratching
the sofa!
t
elizabeth trent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Phelix was taking care of me today because I home and not feeling well.
He's
Elizabeth,
What a cute story about the lavender! I'm glad you included this
information-I'm so bad at trying to clip their claws, and I really need
to-poor Bandit (our 10 yr. old) got swiped the other day and it drew a
little blood by his nose-poor guy-he never wants to really fight hard, just
Hope Phelix is doing well. I find that dew claw the worst to cut, its hard to
get ahold of, and difficult to get the right angle on it with the clippers. I
find having my husband hold the cats at chest level while I clip is the
easiest. I usually only remember to trim their nails when they
Elizabeth,
I hope you are feeling better today. Isn't it amazing that no matter
how bad we feel, we can gather the energy from somewhere when our loved
ones need us? I'm glad to hear that Phelix is okay and that it was just
a nasty scare. It's so sweet the way the two of you are taking care
That's a fairly typical antibiotic/steroid eye ointment. Sounds logical to
me. I have an itchy boy here too, he digs bleeding sores all over his body.
It's not bad yet this year, we are hoping it wont flare up as more plants
begin to bloom in summer. I'm considering soft paws for his back paws, so
Your cats get STUCK to the carpet? Bizarre! I never trim claws here (I'm
morally opposed to the idea) unless there's a medical necessity, and I can
honestly say my cats have NEVER gotten stuck to the carpet. I have
occasionally seen one get stuck on the side of the sofa while scratching it,
but
ok - here's the medicine (read the insert):
Vetropolycin HC
(bacitracin-neomycin-polymyxin with hydrocortisone acetate 1% veterinary
ophthalmic ointment -- sterile --- antibacterial)
apply 1/4 inch strip under the eyelid 2-3 times daily.
On 6/4/07, elizabeth trent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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