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There are several
Raymond Horton schrieb:
OK, if you approve, not only of David's disagreeing with Brahms (nothing
wrong with that) but of the less-than-civil tone of his disagreement,
(which takes it to a different level) than I will ask you to provide an
example of a truly great composer that is an atheist.
Apparently Brahms did have something to say about women composers. Can
anybody give me a serious source for this quote, found in a German
musical calendar with no bibliographical references:
Es wird dann erst eine Komponistin geben, wenn der erste Mann ein Kind
zur Welt gebracht hat
(more or
Leigh Daniels wrote:
Hi Group,
I can't figure out how to get a metronome marking to play back.
At the beginning of the piece, I have a marking of quarter = 72. Later
there is a metric modulation where the transition is marked quarter =
eighth. The measure just before the quarter = eighth marking
I found David's assessment of Brahms to be very humorous. I suspect that
David intended this and I got a good laugh out of his phrasing.
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Thanks to all who replied to this thread. I have just heard back from
King's music in England, who have a reprint of the Cotelle edition.
That's by far the best solution I could have hoped for, and I will order
from them immediately.
Thanks again for all the great tips I have been given, they
http://www.poopreport.com/Stories/Content/peace.html
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At 4/12/2005 08:01 AM, Richard Yates wrote:
http://www.poopreport.com/Stories/Content/peace.html
ROTFL
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On Apr 12, 2005, at 12:48 AM, Darcy James Argue wrote:
Composers are subject to the same irrational prejudices as everyone
else. Many of them have, sadly, been making exactly this kind of
bigoted assertion for centuries, and the Brahms quote Raymond Horton
cited was precisely in that tradition
Apple has announced the official launch date of Tiger. But I can't see
any reference to the capability of rotating the screen display. Anyone
knows something about that? I have seen some beta pictures of Tiger
using this feature.
Éric Dussault
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Johannes Gebauer wrote:
Raymond Horton schrieb:
OK, if you approve, not only of David's disagreeing with Brahms
(nothing wrong with that) but of the less-than-civil tone of his
disagreement, (which takes it to a different level) than I will ask
you to provide an example of a truly great
Darcy James Argue wrote:
On 12 Apr 2005, at 12:26 AM, keith helgesen wrote:
The next step is Catholics compose better than Muslims or Protestants or
Salvos or Hindus or--- Aaargh!
Composers are subject to the same irrational prejudices as everyone
else. Many of them have, sadly, been making
On Apr 11, 2005, at 8:41 PM, Raymond Horton wrote:
OK, if you approve, not only of David's disagreeing with Brahms
(nothing wrong with that) but of the less-than-civil tone of his
disagreement, (which takes it to a different level) than I will ask
you to provide an example of a truly great
But you stopped writing Johannes! How was I supposed to register my
protest if I couldn't have something to not read?
Re: Brahms
This is not to say that a great composer could be religious (Christian
I assume) and be totally in the wrong with God. So we could have a
great religious
It was not the fact that you quoted Brahms, but the way you did it. And
I agree with another comment, that had you quoted Wagner in the same
manner, there would have been a major outcry (and rightly so).
The way you talked about the Brahms quote was, at least as I understood
it, on the lines
On 12 Apr 2005, at 10:50 AM, Raymond Horton wrote:
I quote Brahms, mention G_d, and all of a sudden, I'm Mark Furman or
Hitler.
Oh fercrissakes. First off Raymond, you were never personally
attacked, nobody mentioned your politics, and nobody said *you* were
full of shit. Much less compared
Florence + Michael wrote:
Apparently Brahms did have something to say about women composers. Can
anybody give me a serious source for this quote, found in a German
musical calendar with no bibliographical references:
Es wird dann erst eine Komponistin geben, wenn der erste Mann ein
Kind zur
At 4/12/2005 01:15 PM, Raymond Horton wrote:
But I will not apologize for quoting Brahms on the subject of
spirituality and inspiration when asked - I just should have not chosen
one inflammatory line. But perhaps David's initial expectorating on the
word spiritual and his subsequent devaluing
Maybe I am just dense, but I cannot figure out how to notate a push when
charting chords/changes for guitar/keyboards using slash notation.
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Richard,
Make sure Select Partial Measures is on.
Create an eighth note (any pitch) where you want the push (for
instance, on the and of four) and tie it to the next beat.
With the Staff tool, select only that eighth note (this can be tricky)
and change the Staff Style to Rhythmic Notation.
On Apr 12, 2005, at 1:38 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote:
Richard,
Make sure Select Partial Measures is on.
Create an eighth note (any pitch) where you want the push (for
instance, on the and of four) and tie it to the next beat.
With the Staff tool, select only that eighth note (this can be tricky)
Hi All.
I never expected my question on creativity and inspiration to have
wandered so far away from my original thought. Perhaps I was unclear.
My intention was to learn how some of you get from point A
(inspiration) to point B (nuts and bolts}.
The one answer I really liked came from John
On 12 Apr 2005, at 2:19 PM, Bob Florence wrote:
I believe it was Christopher who suggested a book by Goldstein. I
don't remember the first name. It was a book on jazz composers.
Gil Goldstein. I met him a few weeks ago -- great guy. His book is
terrific. It's out of print, but you can get
At 4/12/2005 02:19 PM, Bob Florence wrote:
My intention was to learn how some of you get from point A
(inspiration) to point B (nuts and bolts}.
The one answer I really liked came from John Howell. He takes a
shower. so do I. For me that's the best place I can go to get
started. I am also very
I am sensitive to some of the issues that have been discussed here, but I don't take any of it personally. And the last time I checked, there seemed to be a little asshole in everyone of us.
FWIW Some of my favorite music came from a guy who had constructed a painful chemical dependency which
And all this time I thought that Copland was Jewish.
How do you know he was an atheist?
On Tue, 12 Apr 2005, Andrew Stiller wrote:
On Apr 11, 2005, at 8:41 PM, Raymond Horton wrote:
OK, if you approve, not only of David's disagreeing with Brahms
(nothing wrong with that) but of the
On 12 Apr 2005 at 8:55, Florence + Michael wrote:
Apparently Brahms did have something to say about women composers. Can
anybody give me a serious source for this quote, found in a German
musical calendar with no bibliographical references:
Es wird dann erst eine Komponistin geben, wenn der
So, I got the answer from them.
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Hiroaki Honshuku, A-NO-NE Music, Boston, MA
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On 12 Apr 2005 at 10:45, Raymond Horton wrote:
I quote Brahms, mention G_d, and all of a
sudden, I'm Mark Furman or Hitler.
You didn't simply quote Brahms. You quoted him *in an approving
manner* making a statement that explicitly excluded non-believers as
good composers. The quote asserts
On 12 Apr 2005 at 9:33, Christopher Smith wrote:
Aren't non-Christians used to talking to Christians in religious terms
by now? I know I am, and I don't care. I'm secure enough in my own
lack of religion to accept it in others.
But someone else's faith is not the issue. The issue was a
On Apr 12, 2005, at 2:19 PM, Bob Florence wrote:
My intention was to learn how some of you get from point A
(inspiration) to point B (nuts and bolts}.
The one answer I really liked came from John Howell.
I almost always start with the thought, wouldn't it be nice if there
were a piece of [x]
Christopher Smith / 05.4.12 / 02:11 PM wrote:
As long as we're on that topic, what should be done with the first
eighth note of beat 4 in that instance?
That should be slashed 8th as well in Boston, or just do a kick over
time, but it is less common. Slashed 8th at the beat 4 really doesn't
On Apr 12, 2005, at 3:21 PM, Eden - Lawrence D. wrote:
And all this time I thought that Copland was Jewish.
How do you know he was an atheist?
He was a Commie, for crying out loud--or at least a fellow-traveller!
There is, to the best of my recollection, no mention of religious
observance
On 12 Apr 2005, at 2:11 PM, Christopher Smith wrote:
Darcy,
As long as we're on that topic, what should be done with the first
eighth note of beat 4 in that instance? When I see it as a slash, that
seems to indicate to me that it takes up a full pulse, making the
measure look like 1+1+1+1.5 /
Here's asite I've perused in the past, though the validity of
itstheories need tobe evaluated by the reader; more often than not I
find their defenses very weak, but stillinteresting. Brahms is
identified herein as agnostic, at least:
On Apr 12, 2005, at 4:21 PM, A-NO-NE Music wrote:
Christopher Smith / 05.4.12 / 02:11 PM wrote:
As long as we're on that topic, what should be done with the first
eighth note of beat 4 in that instance?
That should be slashed 8th as well in Boston, or just do a kick over
time, but it is less
On 12 Apr 2005, at 5:08 PM, Christopher Smith wrote:
I think it would be OK on a guitar or bass part, where one might
expect the player to sound anyway on the 4th beat, but a pianist or
drummer might make a big difference between two 8ths on the 4th beat
and one 8th on the and of 4.
Yep.
You can't create a push in slashes. You have to either write it in 2nd layer
on top the staff or change the particular beat (select partial measure) to
rhythmic notation. You can remove the stems, if you need to, in special
tools.
Jim
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On Apr 12, 2005, at 5:17 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote:
On 12 Apr 2005, at 5:08 PM, Christopher Smith wrote:
I've never had any problem with the standard solution -- slash on beat
four, push on the and of four. If you're willing to accept that
(stemless) slashes are just *beat markers*, not
On 12 Apr 2005, at 5:30 PM, Christopher Smith wrote:
On Apr 12, 2005, at 5:17 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote:
On 12 Apr 2005, at 5:08 PM, Christopher Smith wrote:
I've never had any problem with the standard solution -- slash on
beat four, push on the and of four. If you're willing to accept that
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There is no female Mozart because there is no female Jack the Ripper.
Camille Paglia, Sexual Personae
Is she full of shit, too? Because she is essentially saying what you
claimed would be indefensible sexism.
Data which supports the
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Raymond Horton
writes:
OK, if you approve, not only of David's disagreeing with Brahms (nothing
wrong with that)
Yes
but of the less-than-civil tone of his disagreement,
No
(which takes it to a different level) than I will ask you to provide an
example of a truly
On 12 Apr 2005, at 3:11 PM, Ken Moore wrote:
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Christopher
Smith writes:
There is no female Mozart because there is no female Jack the
Ripper.
Camille Paglia, Sexual Personae
Is she full of shit, too? Because she is essentially saying what you
claimed would be
As I am committing myself to learn this product, is it worth upgrading to the
current version, or should I stay on 2003a and wait for the next version ?
Thanks in advance,
Richard
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Phil Daley wrote:
The other time is about 2 or 3 AM when I am trying to get back to sleep
and I have this flash of insight. What I should do is have a music pad
and pencil at the bedstand, because, by morning, I have forgotten what
it was ;-)
If I got paid for my inspiration, I probably would
Hey gang,
What is S.O.P. when letters of the alphabet are part of the lyrics to a
song? Should I leave them as letters, or spell them phonetically --
for instance, I.Q. vs. eye-queue? What about multi-syllable
letters like W? (Dou-ble-yoo???) Is there a list somewhere of
standard phonetic
Darcy James Argue wrote:
Hey gang,
What is S.O.P. when letters of the alphabet are part of the lyrics to a
song? Should I leave them as letters, or spell them phonetically -- for
instance, I.Q. vs. eye-queue? What about multi-syllable letters
like W? (Dou-ble-yoo???) Is there a list
Hi Richard,
The answer to your question is
influenced in part by the genre(s) of music you are doing or plan to do.
Primarily I edit and engrave
18th
and
19th
century autographs of sacred music, choral with organ alone or with small
orchestral accompaniment; also a little organ music, chorales,
I remember the first song I wrote that people actually liked. It was in
the shower, too, and I ran out a la Archimides (I lived alone at the
time) into the living room and started plunking away on my guitar. Words
came almost automatically. Don't know how.
Subsequent to that, almost nothing
I believe W is the only polysyllabic letter in the English alphabet. I
have heard attempts (by internetters?) to call it a dub, but that
doesn't work for me. Personally, I would keep the letters as letters
except for W, which I would spell out as dou-ble U, to distiguish it
from the
This discussion is pretty interesting to me.
I use last two 8th slashes stemmed and beamed but no one I know would
emphasize on beat 4 unless I put accent marking.
I don't mind unstemmed slash on beat 4 with stemmed 8th slash at the end
of 4. I have seen it, and it is fine as long as it is 4/4
Hi all,
Okay, here's one that's got me. I was working on a score, and I noticed
some editing I was doing in a section written in octaves was audio-proofing
wrong. The notes were placed correctly in the measure, but the Midi was
sounding ahead of time. I thought I had made an entry error, and kept
At 01:14 AM 4/13/05 -0400, you wrote:
Anything I edit, though, puts the Midi where it should be.
Okay, phew, I have no idea what shifted the Midi data, but going into the
Midi tool, selecting durations, selecting all the notes in sight, and
hitting backspace put everything where it was supposed
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