Richard Bartkus wrote:
With all due respect Noel, if you hadn't meant to "slam" me then why didn't
you just say that it might be due to the size of the files and average user
bandwidth not supporting it as a viable business option ?
Only because that's not the way I think. If I'd thought of it tha
On Apr 18, 2005, at 7:52 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote:
For those of you in and around LA:
The Symphonic Jazz Orchestra will be presenting a new work by me on
Sunday, May 1 at UCLA's Schoenberg Hall. It's free. The band
includes Peter Erskine and John Clayton.
Whassa matter, couldn't they find an
For the record I never said that they should ONLY distribute soft copies.
The practice of offering software upgrades via the internet is not new; it
has been around for years.
With all due respect Noel, if you hadn't meant to "slam" me then why didn't
you just say that it might be due to the siz
On 18 Apr 2005, at 9:48 PM, Noel Stoutenburg wrote:
Darcy wrote:
The Finale 2005 install CD, which contains both Mac and PC versions,
contains only 241.4 MB of data.
Got it; so the download time on a 56k dialup, based upon the amount of
time it took to download the most recent update to 2k5, wil
On 18 Apr 2005 at 17:53, dhbailey wrote:
> David W. Fenton wrote:
>
> > On 18 Apr 2005 at 5:31, dhbailey wrote:
> >
> >>David W. Fenton wrote:
> >>
> >>>Can anyone give me advice on exactly why tempo tool playback might
> >>>not work in a body of files that were created from the same
> >>>templa
Darcy wrote:
... Richard was asking why Coda didn't offer the *option* of
downloading upgrades,... He never said anything about *requiring*
upgrades to be downloaded.
I understood that Richard was asking about the "option", as opposed to
the requrement.
The Finale 2005 install CD, which contai
On 18 Apr 2005 at 17:30, Christopher Smith wrote:
> On Apr 18, 2005, at 3:16 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:
>
> > On 18 Apr 2005 at 5:31, dhbailey wrote:
> >>
> >> Have you entered any expressions which have been defined for
> >> playback?
> >
> > I don't understand the question.
>
> If you take the
When Richard writes:
Your reprimand is noted.
I fear I have been mis-interpreted; I merely intended to offer a
suggestion as to why full upgrades may not be offered as downloads, not
to give any type of "reprimand".
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That's very interesting as I'm planning the original Rhapsody in Blue in
October. I have the Nashville Jazz Orchestra and we're doing a joint project
with the Nashville Chamber Orchestra. We're also programming some Berstein
excerpts (West Side, Candide, ect.).
If you have any insight/suggestions
Darcy James Argue wrote:
For those of you in and around LA:
The Symphonic Jazz Orchestra will be presenting a new work by me on
Sunday, May 1 at UCLA's Schoenberg Hall. It's free. The band includes
Peter Erskine and John Clayton. They'll also be doing the original
orchestration of Rhapsody in
But is it free?
congrats.
Dean
On Apr 18, 2005, at 4:52 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote:
For those of you in and around LA:
The Symphonic Jazz Orchestra will be presenting a new work by me on
Sunday, May 1 at UCLA's Schoenberg Hall. It's free. The band
includes Peter Erskine and John Clayton. They
For those of you in and around LA:
The Symphonic Jazz Orchestra will be presenting a new work by me on
Sunday, May 1 at UCLA's Schoenberg Hall. It's free. The band includes
Peter Erskine and John Clayton. They'll also be doing the original
orchestration of Rhapsody in Blue and a bunch of othe
Noel,
The Finale 2005 install CD, which contains both Mac and PC versions,
contains only 241.4 MB of data.
And Richard was asking why Coda didn't offer the *option* of
downloading upgrades, rather than having to pay (and wait) for shipping
(and for international users, customs and brokerage fee
David W. Fenton / 05.4.18 / 03:29 PM wrote:
>The laptops are also very poorly made, with lots of plastic parts
>that break off or fit poorly. I also don't like the keyboards.
I agree,
And they think they invents for better. Once I found boot.ini won't be
cleared by powercycle, only to find inte
Your reprimand is noted.
Richard
>
> From: Noel Stoutenburg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2005/04/18 Mon PM 06:45:51 EDT
> To: finale@shsu.edu
> Subject: Re: [Finale] 2005 to 2003a
>
> Richard wrote, in part asking:
>
> >That leads me to ask why Make Music doe not provide an upgrade path online
Richard wrote, in part asking:
That leads me to ask why Make Music doe not provide an upgrade path online where we could download the software. Or do they already provide that and I just could not find it on the site ?
To which I would note that they do provide online downloads for
maintenance
On Apr 18, 2005, at 5:50 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote:
On 18 Apr 2005, at 5:14 PM, Christopher Smith wrote:
But back at you, in the key of C would YOU spell the bII7 chord as
Db-F-Ab-Cb
On a piano or guitar part, absolutely -- no hesitation, no question.
On chordal parts, I spell dominant 7th cho
It's 440 in Manchester (although it is creeping up)
I wasn't aware that there was a new european standard, but that certain
orchestras were tending to play slightly higher than 440.
All the best,
Lawrence
"þaes
ofereode - þisses swa
maeg"http://lawrenceyates.co.uk
Hello Knowledgeable Finale-ists,
As part of a conversation with a pianist friend today, we both were
wondering why Concert Pitch A in America is 440 Hz and different in
Europe. He said when he was touring in Europe, he had to request the
American 440 Hz tuning and if the piano was tuned to the Eur
David W. Fenton wrote:
On 18 Apr 2005 at 5:31, dhbailey wrote:
David W. Fenton wrote:
Can anyone give me advice on exactly why tempo tool playback might
not work in a body of files that were created from the same template
(an old file, probably stemming all the way back to WinFin 2.01,
converted t
On 18 Apr 2005, at 5:14 PM, Christopher Smith wrote:
On Apr 18, 2005, at 2:29 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote:
Wow, do you really follow that rule consistently? I mean, in the key
of Db, would you spell the bII7 chord D-F#-A-B#?
No, because to be painfully correctly spelled, it would be an Ebb7
Chri
On Apr 18, 2005, at 3:16 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:
On 18 Apr 2005 at 5:31, dhbailey wrote:
Have you entered any expressions which have been defined for playback?
I don't understand the question.
If you take the Allegro marking that comes in the default file, there
is a playback defined for it tha
On Apr 18, 2005, at 3:20 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:
On 18 Apr 2005 at 8:48, Christopher Smith wrote:
I. Generally, tertian chords are spelled in 3rds from the root up. But
the roots of ambiguous sounding chords (especially aug. triads and o7
chords) are sometimes controversial and, then, so ar
On Apr 18, 2005, at 2:27 PM, Jacki Barineau wrote:
Hi, Everyone - It's been a long time since I've done any notation or
transcription for people for a fee. I wondered what the "going rates"
are
these days? I used to charge $10 per page 20 years ago! Is there a
"per
page" rate that most people
On Apr 18, 2005, at 2:29 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote:
On 18 Apr 2005, at 8:48 AM, Christopher Smith wrote:
For jazz things get hairy, as tritone substitute dominant chords
should be correctly spelled as if they were augmented sixth chords,
e.g., in the key of C a Db7 chord would be spelled Db, F
When I first started using Finale in the dark ages of 1988, :-) I tended
to repeat larger sections (choruses or verses) of the pieces I worked on,
and was very happy to get away from the use of col bars. However, the major
reason I avoided repeats was the difficulty, without the availability of
Greetings Eric,
Thank you for the information about the new book. Unfortunately, I am
not near any place that has a major library. Is there any possibility
that you could send me a PDF of the pages you mention concerning the
use of tromba in alto clef during the Barock period?
Vielen Dank!
Mart
On 18 Apr 2005 at 10:14, Allen Fisher wrote:
> My recommendation on the PC side is Sony. . . .
I would strenuously counter that recommendation with a huge warning --
Sony is a consumer electronics company and doesn't know how to make
something as complicated as a PC and doesn't know how to suppo
On 18 Apr 2005 at 10:19, dhbailey wrote:
> Williams, Jim wrote:
>
> [snip]>
> > Here's a question--I find myself writing fewer "roadmaps" in general
> > since using software. Cut-and-paste works well! Some people rag on
> > me for this since they want to know if something is a recap or some
> > s
On 18 Apr 2005 at 8:48, Christopher Smith wrote:
> I.Generally, tertian chords are spelled in 3rds from the root up. But
> the roots of ambiguous sounding chords (especially aug. triads and o7
> chords) are sometimes controversial and, then, so are their spellings.
I have to disagree with thi
On 18 Apr 2005 at 5:31, dhbailey wrote:
> David W. Fenton wrote:
> > Can anyone give me advice on exactly why tempo tool playback might
> > not work in a body of files that were created from the same template
> > (an old file, probably stemming all the way back to WinFin 2.01,
> > converted to 3.5
On 17 Apr 2005 at 21:21, Mark D Lew wrote:
> On Apr 17, 2005, at 12:28 AM, d. collins wrote:
>
> > I also do mostly vocal music for several voices, with or without
> > instruments, but still prefer, for a 5-movement 4-voice mass, for
> > instance, one file for the whole work. I agree that that me
On 18 Apr 2005, at 11:13 AM, Andrew Stiller wrote:
While it is perfectly true that the line between copyist and engraver
has vanished, I don't see how that affects my analysis. If I am a
copyist/engraver, and a composer hands me an MS to engrave and extract
parts from, my job (unless instructed
On 18 Apr 2005, at 8:48 AM, Christopher Smith wrote:
For jazz things get hairy, as tritone substitute dominant chords
should be correctly spelled as if they were augmented sixth chords,
e.g., in the key of C a Db7 chord would be spelled Db, F, Ab, B (not
Cb). Many jazz musicians freely use enha
Hi, Everyone - It's been a long time since I've done any notation or
transcription for people for a fee. I wondered what the "going rates" are
these days? I used to charge $10 per page 20 years ago! Is there a "per
page" rate that most people use now? What about for transcription from a CD
(fig
Thanks Dick,
Of course, but I meant "offline" with a peculiar application that let you
search through all the messages for a peculiar subject...
Alessandro
On Apr 17, 2005, at 10:10 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> is there any suggestion, application to browse all the list messages?
>
> Ales
It worked okay for the notes but I lost the expressions etc.
Ended up that I used the un-edited parts that I marked manually and spoke to
the players about. Fortunately it was a simple enough error (extra measure in
the horn parts) and the performance went well.
My upgrade to 2005 should be on
Dear folks,
David Fenton brings up valid questions concerning the mysterious and
illogical Tempo Tool. It has remained virtually the same since it's
first appearance in Finale 2. Many of you have said that you never
use it. You don't have any way to know what it is actually doing. The
managemen
Allen Fisher / 05.4.18 / 11:16 AM wrote:
>Another good utility is ONYX, especially for you guys that have Mac laptops.
>It runs all the UNIX-ie maintenance stuff that typically doesn't get run
>because your laptop sleeps to save batter power.
Careful.
OnyX did have a bug which actually screws th
At 4/17/2005 10:31 PM, John Howell wrote:
>Our only inheritance from the treble-clef brass band system is the
>duplicate parts for treble clef (Bb-transposed) and bass clef
>(concert pitch) baritone/euphonium parts, both of which are still
>required in band arrangements. And I believe the justific
At 08:28 AM 4/18/05 -0400, Christopher Smith wrote:
>the Critic's Hurdles, the
>Writer's Block Pole Vault, the Grant Sprint and his specialty, the
>Compose, Copy Parts, and Premier triathlon. Dennis is thankful for the
>support he gets from No-Doz, Domino's Pizza, and Tums."
That was great. :)
On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 08:28:47 -0400, Christopher Smith wrote:
> On Apr 18, 2005, at 2:18 AM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote:
>
>> Thanks to everyone for recommending a single score for all the
>> movements. It was much easier to deal with, including the edits,
>> additions, etc. Went beautifully, turne
On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 07:19:40 -0400, "Eden - Lawrence D." wrote:
> I am often undecided about using sharps as accidentals in flat keys
> and using flats in sharp keys.
>
> I prefer to simplify the notation, substituting B for
[My apologies in advance for cross-postings - this is
being sent simultaneously to Orchestra-list,
Finale-list, and Sibelius-list!]
Dear all -
A colleague and I are looking for the following music
- any leads would be helpful!
1. A transcription for band of the Mozart G major
flute concerto (at
At 8:14 AM -0400 4/17/05, Lawrence David Eden wrote:
Unless she HAS to get a PC (and I can't think of a single reason why a
freshman would be that committed to one of the departments that requires
them) she ought to get a Mac. Period."
At this university there are department-specific requirements.
At 6:20 PM -0400 4/16/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 16/04/2005 14:19:15 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
"first, the students you cite are taking
private lessons, which the vast majority of middle and high school
instrumentalists do not."
No - I teach in high schools
At 3:28 PM -0400 4/16/05, Andrew Stiller wrote:
Certainly. But Rachmaninoff's use of the convention was by then no
more traditional than Hindemith's use of the viola d'amore.
Hindemith directed the Yale Collegium Musicum, and was
a violist. Why would he not be interested in viola d
At 3:26 PM -0400 4/16/05, Andrew Stiller wrote:
I could counter with a long list of instruments whose effective
ranges do precisely that, yet do not use (and in most cases never
have used) the alto clef. But I think it will be more, um, effective
simply to point out that the only modern instrume
On Apr 18, 2005, at 4:33 AM, Eric Fiedler wrote:
The following book, just published by Bärenreiter, has some relevant
information:
J.S. Bachs Instrumentarium
ed. by Ulrich Prinz, Internat. Bachakademie Stuttgart, Schriftenreihe
10 (€49,-)
Out of curiosity, what does it say about the "lituus" requ
Another good utility is ONYX, especially for you guys that have Mac laptops.
It runs all the UNIX-ie maintenance stuff that typically doesn't get run
because your laptop sleeps to save batter power.
--A
On 4/16/05 1:35 PM, "David Hage" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> saith:
> Hi All,
>
> You could try a p
My recommendation on the PC side is Sony. While they're a bit spendy,
they're great machines and places like ubid.com have good deals on them. I
have a Vaio desktop that I've used for years without problems, My wife liked
my machine so much that we got her a Vaio as well. We've got a couple of
Vaio
On Apr 17, 2005, at 4:33 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:
On 17 Apr 2005 at 11:43, Andrew Stiller wrote:
With a concert-pitch score, the copyist will need to exercise more
initiative than usual in deciding clef change issues, because quite
obviously instruments with big transpositions will have parts tha
On Apr 18, 2005, at 6:33 AM, Williams, Jim wrote:
Here's a question--I find myself writing fewer "roadmaps" in general since using software. . Am I alone in my abandonment of roadmaps?
Jim
I haven't abandoned them entirely, when the structure is simple enough. But I write out the things
On 18 avr. 05, at 15:33, Williams, Jim wrote:
For music to be performed at sight or on only one readthrough, I will
simplify spelling (this problem arises most often in diminished
constructions or substitute harmonies) unless the simplification is
grossly misleading (of course, I will do the F#
On Apr 17, 2005, at 10:10 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
is there any suggestion, application to browse all the list messages?
Alessandro
Obvious, but I have to ask first, have you looked at the archives on
the web?
http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/private/finale/
Dick H
I'm with Noel. Do this at your own risk. I know people get it to work OK
going back one version, but as you increase the distance between versions,
the odds do not stack up in your favor.
Make sure you keep backups of everything...
-A
On 4/15/05 8:41 PM, "Noel Stoutenburg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> s
Williams, Jim wrote:
[snip]>
Here's a question--I find myself writing fewer "roadmaps" in general
since using software. Cut-and-paste works well! Some people rag on me
for this since they want to know if something is a recap or some
such. My response is always "if you can't tell what it is, turn yo
There is one other style worth noted.
Take the music into totally super horizontal. In this context, the
vertical harmonic structure is rather ignored, thus accidentals are not
given according to the vertical harmonic structure. If no obvious clue
of the key of the moment is visually affecting t
I make a big distinction between music that is to be sightread in performance
and music that can be rehearsed several times.
For me this distinction affects not only note spelling--the issue here--but
also page layout.
For music to be performed at sight or on only one readthrough, I will simpli
Eden - Lawrence D. / 05.4.18 / 07:19 AM wrote:
>I am often undecided about using sharps as accidentals in flat keys and
>using flats in sharp keys.
>
>I prefer to simplify the notation, substituting B for Cb, for example, but
>I want to know what is the "correct" way to make the decision.
>
>I wan
On Apr 18, 2005, at 7:19 AM, Eden - Lawrence D. wrote:
Fellow Listers,
I am often undecided about using sharps as accidentals in flat keys and
using flats in sharp keys.
I prefer to simplify the notation, substituting B for Cb, for example, but
I want to know what is the "correct" way to make t
Eden - Lawrence D. wrote:
Fellow Listers,
I am often undecided about using sharps as accidentals in flat keys and
using flats in sharp keys.
I prefer to simplify the notation, substituting B for Cb, for example, but
I want to know what is the "correct" way to make the decision.
I want my parts to b
On Apr 18, 2005, at 2:18 AM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote:
Thanks to everyone for recommending a single score for all the
movements.
It was much easier to deal with, including the edits, additions, etc.
Went
beautifully, turned out 108 pages. Got it done about 10 minutes ago,
and
it's due in 6 hou
Fellow Listers,
I am often undecided about using sharps as accidentals in flat keys and
using flats in sharp keys.
I prefer to simplify the notation, substituting B for Cb, for example, but
I want to know what is the "correct" way to make the decision.
I want my parts to be easily read and playe
David W. Fenton wrote:
Can anyone give me advice on exactly why tempo tool playback might
not work in a body of files that were created from the same template
(an old file, probably stemming all the way back to WinFin 2.01,
converted to 3.52 then to 97 then to 2K3)? I've already imported
standa
The following book, just published by Bärenreiter, has some relevant
information:
J.S. Bachs Instrumentarium
ed. by Ulrich Prinz, Internat. Bachakademie Stuttgart, Schriftenreihe
10 (€49,-)
On page 40f. there is a discussion (in the chapter on "tromba") of the
three works by JSB with such a clef
on 4/17/05 10:24 PM, Christopher Smith at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
>
> On Apr 17, 2005, at 6:04 PM, Don Hart wrote:
>>
>> Christopher, I haven't noticed the copying problems you're talking
>> about,
>> but maybe I'm not trying to move around exactly the same combination of
>> things you are.
>>
I wrote:
>I have been surprised to find
>> many late 19th and 20th C composers using alto clef for trombones 1
>> and 2, e.g. Dvorak ('Cello Concerto), Prokofiev (Lt. Kijé) and
>> Shostakovich (Symphony 10). I was also intrigued to find that in the
>> recently published Del Mar edition of the Bee
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